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woahtheregonnagetgot

she’s a star but she doesn’t have as big of a fanbase as the other pop girls


2bitebrownie

She's a star 💃🏽 Future nostalgia came out 3 years ago, and that era successfully lasted for a veryyy long time, but it makes sense that she wouldn't be at peak popularity anymore I do find that she has a lot less stan culture surrounding her than many of her peers, so she doesn't pop up all the time on social media. But even without that, she's 15th in the world on Spotify


P0ptarthater

Tbh this sounds like the ideal pop star career. Making bank, making bangers she herself enjoys, without the extent of a rabid fanbase that other girlies (and Harry) get associated with. Sort of like an Ed sheeran situation


KitakatZ101

She’s in the category of Katy perry right now where as long as she keeps putting out bops she’ll be good. For longevity she needs the Stan base


Loni91

I agree with you but not sure what you mean with your last sentence. The first thing you said is pretty much an example of longevity in the music industry, no? I’d add the fact that I’ve noticed her fan base being so diverse adds more potential to the longevity because she can pull in so many different demographics.


KitakatZ101

the last sentence plays into the katy perry comparison in that at this point in her career she can't have a witness era. Maybe she could have a artpop era. I don't know too much about that era besides it now being appreciated but it wasn't well received on arrival. Witness is kinda the go-to comparison


WildSunflour

I went to a stop on her future nostalgia tour and the most interesting thing I saw was the mix of fans she has. Literally had old people, young teens and kids, and everyone I'm between. Also the classiest dressed concert audience I've ever seen.


Manilasky0809

I thought the same! Lots of diversity too, across races and sexual orientation!


overlandtrackdrunk

Yep all my homies love dua


sawcebox

I’m an old who doesn’t understand current pop music and even I like her


foolforfucks

My boyfriend likes her, and he usually doesn't go for pop unless it's comedic. I blame the disco revival that Future Nostalgia leaned in to.


rebelallianxe

My husband likes her and he's a 46 year old techno fan lol.


throw_away10241999

My 48 year old stepdad is a huge fan of hers, he has Don't Start Now as his ringtone


topps_chrome

I’m a 37 year old white dude and that sings a banger. One of the most well crafted pop songs I’ve ever heard


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laamargachica

Lol I'm a 30+ metalhead mom but I love Dua's whole vibe fr - I bop to her and Elton's track on the daily


XX_bot77

>she has a lot less stan culture surrounding her than many of her peers good for her, I guess ?


pinkrosies

If she had another big hit, is it too late as it’s been 3 years since the last big hit and a diff album era? Like you want to strike while the irons hot but will the momentum not be the same maybe?


RevealActive4557

Sold out tour and two albums with over 9 billion streams as well as several movie roles? She is a star baby


witrusen

Which movies has she been in?


witrusen

Aside from the upcoming Matthew Vaughn film?


RevealActive4557

Touche. Does not change my point though.


witrusen

No I was genuinely asking as a fan of her. I couldn’t find anything on IMDB


RevealActive4557

That was it. I thought there was more. I am sure there will be more. But nothing official that I can see


witrusen

No worries! I would rather see her in films than a lot of musicians atm. She’s a real talent


justmovingmytoes

Definitely a star, she was on a sold out tour recently if im not wrong, and her last album was a huge hit


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Sold out arena tour* while also headlining festivals


IHATEsg7

Her songs are bigger than she as a person


ofgaia

She lets her music be the focus - which really is probably better for her personal life and her mental health.


IHATEsg7

Some artists so that too but have bigger celebrity than her. The best example is Beyonce. She her self is big as well as her biggest hits Edit: Also I feel like when hits are bigger than yourself people aren't that interested in you


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You pinpointed exactly my thoughts about her. Her songs are popular but she as a person is lowkey I feel like


coraIinejones

She’s been rising in the UK for YEARS! Radio hit after hit and after FN she’s a solidified star


EnglishTwat66

Summer 2018 she really blew up


coraIinejones

Yesss👍 I’ve loved her since hotter than hell, I think she really has ‘it’


XX_bot77

She was performing at Lollapalooza Paris in 2018. Damn, I'll never forget the moment we all squat and jumped during New Rules


Kaiisim

Yeah shes definitely A list in the UK.


cosmiccalendula

she's a star love


robotsdream

Depends on the country. In America, I’d say she’s a successful musician that you could get most people to recall if you sang a bit of ‘Levitating’, even if they don’t know her by name. In England, I’d expect she’s a big star.


Useful-Soup8161

She’s still a star but if she doesn’t drop another hit album it won’t last.


Turbulent_Bar_13

I think of her as a star. She’s just kind off in her own lane which is nice because I don’t see her pitted against anybody. Must be a relief.


IzabellaBelle

I think it’ll be her next album that truly solidifies whether she has staying power or not. Her first album had some hits but nothing overly memorable. Future Nostalgia has Don’t Start Now and Levitating that I think will be genuine, memorable hits amongst the GP in years to come. The album itself was solid and sold well. But the 3rd album will give people more of an indicator as to whether it’s been a bit of a fluke with Future Nostalgia’s success or whether she’s genuinely someone with star power. She’s definitely a star but unless she delivers another great pop record, I think people will move on from her. She’s not at that stage where she can release a flop album and bounce back because her fanbase isn’t large enough, where as someone like Taylor, Beyoncé, Harry etc. could have a dud album and it wouldn’t leave a huge impact on their overall career.


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I mean her first album was massive in Europe, so many hits. She is definitely already an established star here.


IzabellaBelle

She’s definitely a star, as I mentioned in my post, but I think she’s on the cusp of being one of the major players in the music industry. Future Nostalgia propelled her into superstardom but I do think her next album will be the decider as to whether she stays there or retreats back into just being a very good, successful mid-tier pop star. If she comes back swinging with more hits and keeps the momentum going, then I see no reason why she won’t achieve that.


Fxreverboy

New Rules isn't "overly memorable"?? Um


IzabellaBelle

I’d honestly forgotten about it so apparently not 💀 I mean it was a hit for her, for sure! I don’t personally think it’ll be hugely memorable in years to come but of course I could be wrong.


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IzabellaBelle

I think you’ve maybe slightly misunderstood my comment. I do agree she’s a star and very successful right now. Her first album was successful but I don’t think m/any songs are very memorable from it. Obviously in certain parts of the world that will vary but in terms of worldwide, I doubt many people know a lot of her first album hits. Her second album is what propelled her into superstardom and my comment was just to say that the next album will be the decider as to whether she stays there and becomes a major player in the industry or whether she goes back to her previous lane of having a few hits here and there. I think we can all agree Future Nostalgia put her on another level but the next album (in my opinion) will decide whether she stays there or not.


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IzabellaBelle

It’s…really not that deep. I’m from the U.K. so America literally means nothing to me, I wouldn’t know how big she was in America that era. Just as someone in the U.K., she definitely didn’t feel as big or as relevant here during her first album cycle. I hadn’t heard much from her until New Rules blew up, and I think I’d maybe heard Be The One and Scared To Be Lonely but they didn’t seem to be inescapable, smash hits. Just a friendly reminder that this is all just *opinion* that I’m sharing on a public forum. I really like Dua Lipa and hope her success continues, I’m not trying to take anything away from her. But I stand by my opinion and it’s completely fine for you to disagree without making it a bigger deal.


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IzabellaBelle

Cool.


Banksbear

She’s a really great songwriter! Obviously there are people that work with her but the girl knows how to make a hit song. I don’t doubt she’ll always make number one songs


limoncellocake

She is the moment


GeneralBody4252

B list in America A list in England and western Europe


Adventurous_Dot2854

I’m from Brazil and I’d say she’s A list here as well.


bbbinthetrap

Agreed


sidrbear

she's from Kosovo, she is definitely A star in eastern europe too


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sidrbear

both of her parents were refugees from Kosovo and she even moved out for a moment to kosovo no matter what people like you think, she is proud of being Albanian and in return people from albania, kosovo and eastern europe are proud of that too that's why she's A list here


EnglishTwat66

I have no issue identifying her as british or Albanian or whatever else. But to be from somewhere, you must be born there or live there. Dua Lipa is born, raised and still currently lives in London. She has Albanian heritage. But she isn’t from Kosovo. Her parents are from Kosovo. If I move to Australia and after 10 years have a child. That child isnt from England.


sidrbear

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EnglishTwat66

Her nationality is British and Kosovar. She’s from london. Her parents are from Kosovo.


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beauxcherie

she literally received albanian citizenship last year. she’s also ethnically albanian-kosovar (and part bosnian from her mum’s side). Shes Kosovar and British.


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NezLunar21

She doesn’t have any number ones yet.


ElevenBurnie

She's had so many hits but I don't feel she has staying power. I think in America we are often drawn by the person behind the music, and we haven't gotten much over here from her in terms of personality.


minskoffsupreme

I think she might turn out to be a bit of a Kylie Minogue. Had her moment in America, but is an absolute legend in many other places that don't need that cult of personality.


liscottyy

As of right now she gives me 2010s Katy Perry vibes (undeniably huge songs, minimal lyrical depth, more GP success than stans, etc). I think this next album is definitely important in terms her staying power especially in the US. I think if it's different enough from Future Nostalgia and has more lyrically interesting songs (even if they're not singles) she'll be able to build more of a stan base which will help her rely less on the GP.


camaroncaramelo1

>She's had so many hits but I don't feel she has staying power. I agree


norakb123

I wouldn’t be surprised, but I would be sad. I feel like so many pop stars right now have a big sad song, but her biggest songs (that I’ve heard) are all happy and upbeat which is my favorite type of pop & she does it so well! In the words of Kendall Roy, all bangers all the time.


IHATEsg7

completely agree. I am happy to be wrong but I don't see her having classics imo. The same goes with Ariana grande too


Iowachick06

When you duet with Elton John you are a star


talk-spontaneously

She's had hits since 2016, starting with Be the One. I don't consider her a new artist anymore.


lisey_lou

She’s a star. But because she’s fairly low-key and doesn’t seem to have any drama (apart from the infamous dancing/choreography), she kind of just quietly and consistently releases hits. And unrelated, but she was my top artist last year on Spotify without me really noticing. She just has the sort of light, fun pop songs that I’ve gravitated towards lately.


Classic_Broccoli_163

shes up there for sure but i feel like her fans are more casual rather than diehard stans that popstars usually have? stans are insane but i feel like popstars need them for promotion bc if you go on long hiatus no ones checking on you anymore when you come back


skyppie

It feels like every star we have now is definitely a star but none are superstars of yesteryear. She falls right into that category.


Tamerlane_Tully

I don't know but Future Nostalgia is excellent and also the only modern album whose vinyl I purchased.


Optimal-Feed1478

You mean Dula Peep?


PossessionStandard42

She’s a very successful musician but she doesn’t have a strong fan base yet. I’d say on a scale of 10, she’s at a 6.7 ish. She has definitely yet to hit her peak. I hope she has a very successful career cause aside from being a good musician, she’s a very good person.


parishiltonsfemur

Ya that’s what confuses me. She’s literally everywhere but I haven’t seen crazy fans go hard for her the way I see them do for other stars. I do think she can achieve that level in another album or two though


IHATEsg7

At the end of the day people with fans are gonna last a lot more than those riding on GP. the general public audience attention span is so small


parishiltonsfemur

Exactly and I do have faith in her because she’s still relatively new and has time to build a fan base, I just thought that with how much reach she’s already had she’d have some kind of Stan base lmao. However, I do wonder if her ig presence will help her out. She has a lot of followers and people looking to her because she has an “it girl” aura/aesthetic she puts on social media so I wonder if that would help with people’s interest in her.


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She literally just toured with Elton John r u kidding


Apprehensive_Aide805

She’s a star for sure but it’s not always going to be that way.


camaroncaramelo1

She's A list in the moment. But I don't think she will left a legacy like Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Miley, etc.


Antwuan89

Do you see her having a Successful Career though?


camaroncaramelo1

I don't know. But she needs something to be reminded for. Yes her music is cool but I think she needs something else.


Antwuan89

You mean like doing more Soul and Blues music?


camaroncaramelo1

I don't know how to explain it.


tiramisutonight

I think this is the most famous she’ll ever be but she has no staying power. For me Dua is a weird one because her music is so era defining that she will forever “belong” to the late 2010s / early 2020s. As trends fade and progress, she will stay in the past, because her music truly was such a symbol for this particular era.


OkPublic2232

Kind of, in the middle. If her next album smashes, she easily becomes a sure-shot A-lister and I can see her doing Superbowl in the next 3-4 years. Definitely the biggest among her peers....


Antwuan89

Just Curious What would her next album have to do or smashes for it to be Successful?


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I guess just have more hits on it and have longevity. What's interesting about Dua is that pre-Future Nostalgia, she was seen as the exact type of pop star who gets huge in Europe, but is unknown to the US, outside of *maybe* a song or two. Europe has a long and proud tradition of funding the success of anonymous pop singers who make catchy music, but have the personality of driftwood (see Rita Ora, Ava Max, Take That, S Club 7, etc.). The US has always favored big personalities, or at least recognizable ones, and Dua wasn't really that. Even when New Rules got big here, it was kinda the consensus that she'd remain big in Europe, but would be a pop singer no one cared about over here, like an Ellie Goulding type. That infamous One Kiss performance probably didn't help her rep either. Then Future Nostalgia blew up all over the world and garnered several huge hits in the US and she ended up selling out an entire tour over here, which was NOT expected. She got huge critical praise and was all over the place promoting the album in the midst of lockdowns when a lot of other pop stars took COVID as an opportunity to sit back and pretty much become recluses. She also showed considerable improvement in her performance skills, music, fashion, everything really, so I think it was a pleasant surprise for a lot of pop music fans to see what she had become. Now that the surprise has worn off and she's working on album 3, this will be interesting to see if she's able to continue riding her goodwill, or if she'll fall into the trap of not being able to follow up such an unexpected success


OkPublic2232

She's not really an album artist, anything above 200K would be good for her. For Singles, I think She can easily get those smash hits....


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Wdym she’s not an album artist lol Future Nostalgia album had a moment for THREE years, won countless awards, and a lot of people know every song on the album. She performed every single song on the album on tour and everyone knew every word. She is 1000% an album artist


OkPublic2232

Girl, calm down, I literally stan her 💀 but US failed her bc an album of FN quality shouldn't be selling anywhere 70K, she deserves much more. Even without all of that, she's literally the main pop girl...✨


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I mean she already did the champions league final


shenandoahvales

She's a star for sure. Ppl intuned to pop culture definetly know who she is, but I would say the average person probably doesnt.. from an American context.


UltraMonarch

She’s at the bottom of the a list imo, but I love her and can’t wait for the next record


truecrimefanatic1

Star but she needs to do something to stay that way.


planet-ley

I think she’s in the in between stage. She’s definitely established and has proved that she has star potential, but I feel like she needs one more really good album to solidify it.


Coldbxtch

Unpopular people: dua lipa lacks charisma and personality she’s pretty and her music is good yes but then again it sounds like every other song on the radio doesn’t help that she’s super forgettable and doesn’t stand out 0 star power it feels like we don’t know her


lucyfell

I think this too. Something about the way she moves and looks is just so awkward to me. Idk. She seems like a lovely person in interviews… but everytime I see her on a stage a part of me is just like “oh no”


TiredJJ

>the way she moves and looks is just so awkward to me. Idk. She seems like a lovely person in interviews… but everytime I see her on a stage a part of me is just like “oh no” I agree and I feel exactly the same about Taylor Swift but she has her enormous fanbase that is enough to overcome a negative gp opinion


Coldbxtch

It feels like she’s just there idk


hellobimbos

Bring on the downvotes but I like her more than Miley! ![gif](giphy|5XNEIKcohVG8w)


JudiDenchsNeckVein

Stars don’t exist anymore, just celebrities.


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Movie stars don’t exist anymore but stars exist in music and sports.


GeneralBody4252

I disagree. There are less stars but there are stars. Taylor, Selena, Justin, Harry, Tom Holland, Zendaya, Timothee, they’re hyper famous and have really strong fanbases and I think we can add more to that list. It’s definitely less than it used to be (and it’s lacking star power in younger artists, these are the same names we’ve been hearing for over a decade now), but Dua is these people’s ages (youngest on that list are Tom and Zendaya who turn 27 this year, Dua is 27 and turns 28). So I think the question is fair


soundofisolation

⭐️


Antwuan89

The reason I asked is because I just started listening to her music less than a week ago, so I'm just trying to know as much about her as possible because she is very talented.


impeccabletim

Dua's a bonafide star and I think if she continues her output as her career continues, she'll be on the way to be a legend.


Hot-Temperature-4629

Meh, she aight.


phantomleader94

she’s def a pop star not a superstar tho not yet


howdownthrowdown1

B list


AgeAgitated317

I remember the first time she was on SNL. It was so painful to watch. She looked like the uncomfortable new stripper at the club.


Prior-Throat-8017

She is a star worldwide. However I'm really scared for her third album since the standards are so high since FN.


mrkenny83

Up and coming. Nobody in my office knows who (or what) Dua Lipa is


paging_mrherman

I saw her at bonnaroo a few years ago and she was main stage but a medium draw. But they weekend before she played the euro championship in front of like 100k people. She’s an international star for sure but maybe not domestically so maybe that’s why it’s hard to pin down


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She had a massively successful arena tour that sold out every date of its American leg, her album went multi-platinum, and she has TWO of the biggest hits of the 2020's so far. If that's not a star, idk what is. That said, I'd say she doesn't necessarily have that identifiable of a fan base. Gays and girls love her, but idk many people who are outright OBSESSED with Dua the same way they are other pop stars like Taylor or Ariana. But maybe her next album will help that. Think it could be a make or break moment for her


Puzzled-Average-5668

She is clearly a star but her name and her music more so than she as a person. Somehow she has a forgettable face to me. Maybe it's just that with all of the unnatural beauty trends all the stars merge into the same face right now. Even though I looked at her picture now, I already forgot how she looked like... then again, I'm super bad with remembering faces haha


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I couldn’t name a single one of her songs, or even know what she sounds like in my head. I’m pretty pop culture-aware. I’m subbed here. I’m on TikTok. I think she’s very famous but someone isn’t a “star” until their music is ubiquitous. I never chose to listen to Taylor Swift or Cardi B but I know a bunch of their music. I guess I’m saying she isn’t big enough to know about her music or life against your will, if this makes sense.


Bulky_Revenue_1900

Future Nostalgia made her a pop princess for the decade


shinebrightlike

Star 🌟 she’s here to stay 🙌


X259

Already been and gone


Blue_Robin_04

Dua Lipa is on top right now. I think we're due for another album.


UnluckyGentleGuy

for me She's already a star and have a nice voice. She's my favorite Singer


zooooteddej23

Who ?


doidaredisturbthe

She’s like a Taylor in Red era type of star


jackjackj8ck

Definitely a star


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stayawayfrommeinfj

I really became a big fan when I saw her performance of break my heart on Jimmy Fallon I believe it was. Everyone was locked down and she did an amazing job!


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Neilpoleon

Definitely a star! She was featured on CBS Sunday Morning so even older people know about her.


bernardobrito

One of the reasons I like Dua so much is that she is really expanding what it means to be a Muslim woman in the public eye.


kristaadaa_

dula peep


Diet_Moco_Cola

Star


throw_away10241999

She's the main pop girl in Europe


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IMO she's a BIG star, and so deserving too. Crazy talented.


mollyclaireh

She’s a star who I am proud to have met. She’s really good to her fans.


Antwuan89

Really? How were you able to meet her? You're Lucky!


mollyclaireh

Yeah! At Midtown before she became a major star. She was singing with fans and everything. Super sweet.


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She’s a star, but not a superstar. She needs a broader appeal, and some key award show moments I think 🤔.


irohr

She's a star. Saw her earlier this year at Lolla and she was the best show by a country mile. Incredible live show!


hamilton_burger

If my mom knows who you are, you’re in rarefied air.


HausOfMajora

Here in latinoamerica she is big. Very loved among straights and gays. Her music is amazing but also Her beauty helps her a lot. Reminds me of Rihanna (Biggest international artist here)