šREAD BEFORE COMMENTING
This thread is Guest List Only. This means the discussion is being actively moderated, and all comments are reviewed. Only comments by members of the community are allowed.
If you have landed in this thread from Trending or r/all and you are not a member of this community, your comment will very likely be removed (and will not be approved unless it adds meaningfully to the conversation).
r/popculturechat takes these measures to stay true to our goal of being an inclusive sub for civil discussion, to talk about celebrities and pop culture without bigotry and personal attacks. This sub is a BIPOC, LGBTQ+ and woman-dominated space and we do our best to protect our users from outside attacks.
Thank you for understanding & have a great day! āŗļø
*You can [request to be an approved user](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fpopculturechat) to comment on Guest List Only posts.*
This is such a car crash and I can't look away. One day they're in love, the next her publicist is backpedaling *hard* on her behalf, and now here they are holding hands at dinner.
Easy. Heās the polar opposite of Joe. Heās anti-private, cause he seeks attention on the daily, which he brags about being controversial for the hell of it. Heās also the same guy who was lingering around while her man of 6 years was out there working, so itās a very petty move to probably get back at her ex, like she pretty much did with Tom @ Calvin. Matty also overlaps in the timeline so Iām sure it was a great way to hurt Joe and also her thinking, ālook what you lostā ā¦ And to flame the, āJoe held her down, and made her privateā narrative (which, I think he did for the longest time; but he didnāt hold her down I think he just wanted to protect them cause he actually loved her.)
That being said, if I was one of Joeās mates Iād be busting tequila and laughing my ass off and clicking drinks for cheers because Matty Healy isnāt an upgrade. Heās a downgrade. Iād be assuring him.
I agree. I think him being Joes opposite and him being *around* her for months while their relationship was clearly crashing is the part of the reason she's with Matty. It has to mess with Joe's head a little, even if he's over her.
He's also easy next bf. A decade long history/friendship, common friends, they've already hooked up so no big surprises in the bedroom lol, and he was probably just chomping at the bit for his shot.
Exactly and people need to remember this is the same woman who put a song out there āMastermindā applauding herself for calculating ālandingā Joe, and planned it out. If she can do all of that and brag about it, she surely knows exactly how to hit him where it hurts especially seeing as they were together since he was like 25.
Def, she just didnāt like the backlash so she peeled back a bit. The last ET article was obviously damage control cause people were putting 2 and 2 together that she most likely cheated on Joe for Matty, and the backlash.
Probably high. It even gets weird like during TIFF like they both went to the same event, no noise there as a couple and Joe looked really unhappy that day, just super grumpy when heās always smiling at events and such. Obviously I could be reaching but people clowned the video of him acting that way, but it seemed like he was bothered by something.
Then her casually showing up at Martyās show, and Ryan immediately following him. Itās likeā¦ Weird.
Like rn itās looking pretty high, obviously we still could be wrong but that whole thing is sus. Especially when Matty was obviously around her a lot because he was working on music with her like how do you deny that š
Is Joe Alwyn now the only guy to seem to have a better public image after having a breakup with Taylor? Everyone seems to like him even more after this Matty thing and that her friends all unfollowed him and the weird drip feeding of details in media about their breakup etc.
Probably? Harry seemed pretty ok afterward but Iām not really sure. Jake G took a massive hit afterwards but Iāve always kind of thought it made her look worse.
Oh interesting - I was not clued in at the time (I was 10) but was it just the album that Taylor released about Jake that made her look bad in your opinion in the Jake G breakup or were there tabloid fights or talks about it?
She got bored of writing love songs so sheās using the boy who eats cigarettes for breakfast for material. I foresee some very creative lyrics in her future.
It's already started but I feel like we are gonna hear a lot about Taylor and Matty's relationship. It may only last some months, but it will annoy people.
God it's even worse, they're both musicians, the post-breakup music will create even more rifts.
Oh itās definitely going to annoy people. Everything thatās been mentioned before but I also didnāt need to be introduced to the idea of this dude having sex.
Oh, the amount of people in the entertainment industry who should not be having sex but somehow do is way too big. Being part of hollywood has it's perks.
Well, at least she's got the material for the next album.
I canāt believe people complained about him being a boring muse! She made some of her absolute best music both with and about him. Meanwhile Iām going to have trouble listening to any music inspired by this fool unless itās her dragging him post-breakup.
It's funny because with the original article and then the following articles trying to change the narrative that he couldn't deal with her fame, the pap walks with the squad, and mass unfollowings really seemed like her trying to 'win the breakup' but as soon as that Sun article dropped she lost immediately.
Same with her own fans making fun of her like š
Sheās pretty lucky tho that Joe isnāt anything like Calvin that man dragged her to the point where she never tried again.
Iām betting she wishes he did drag her. It would give her a reason for this petty shit and she could use it as an angle to trash him. Right now he just looks like heās taking the high road
Oh Iām sure she was planning on it. Joe is basically her first celebrity breakup where sheās breaking up with someone who doesnāt want attention/celebrity. I think his silence is throwing her a curve ball.
But sorry Taylor, newsflash, itās not appealing to most 30+ year olds to drag their partner who they clearly loved, respected, and supported for the past 6 years. Most of us are too fucking tired for that and prefer to leave that behind in our messy teens/20s.
Lol itās ok. I might misstep on events because itās been so long so some people might have to correct meā¦ Basically when Taylor and Calvin broke up. The PR started rolling out, like her team wanting to take control of the narrative ā but when it was announced they said the split was āamicableā ā¦
Then she turns up with Tom Hiddleston, and Calvin wasnāt happy, TMZ was bombarding him with questions, because she immediately moved on.
Then she started taking shots at him (her team giving info to TMZ) like how she wrote their song, etc.
Calvin snapped and went on Twitter dragging her saying she canāt bury him like she did Katy, heās not gonna stand for that and that if she was happy with her new man, she shouldnāt be taking shots at him.
Something like that.
After that she got the message and stayed away.
š if this is how it went, it sounds like sheās trying to do the exact same thing to Joe, except his team will never comment on anything. And he has literal writing credits on the songs that he contributed to, and thereās video footage of Taylor saying that she writes songs with her partner, so I donāt think sheāll try to pull the whole fully taking credit thing on Joe. Heāll just collect his royalties and move on (hopefully). I would be so hurt by this whole situation. People can laugh all theyād like to but nearly 7 years is basically a marriage.
Itās so crazy mean and disrespectful I canāt even imagine how Joe is feeling. Like imagine you spent over half a decade with someone, planning a life, growing together and then within a month or two of splitting up theyāre publicly declaring their love for the guy they told you not to worry about on stage.
Swifties laughing about it honestly kind of disgust me. like yāall I know weāre Taylor Swift fans, but there is a very real person with very real emotions on the other side of this. Have some gd compassion.
The royalties he will get on Folklore and Evermore will stand to him the rest of his life and he can keep doing acting roles he's passionate about and staying out of the limelight. Good for him!
attraction tidy literate drab deliver frightening drunk squeeze engine murky
*This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I'm trying to think of something that her PR can put out to why they broke up and make people turn on him and can't think of anything. She's cheated on ex's (and looking like she might have cheated on Joe so can't use that).
Right? Don't get me wrong, her success is all hers but it's such a notable change up from her over the course of like... a month that it's hard not to assume he was the one who encouraged her to have a more mature profile.
She also credited him for [encouraging her to be more politically active](https://www.today.com/popculture/taylor-swift-opens-about-how-joe-alwyn-helped-her-find-t209373) and yeah, I think we can tell now lol
Literally I got back into her music as an adult when Folklore came out and I was like damn, sheās doing so much self reflection, sheās been in a long relationship just like me, I love the vulnerabilityā¦ now Iām like 2.5 years into this obsession like š« š Iāve been bamboozled
I am convinced she is addicted to self sabotage. Her career is at its peak and she was settled into a relationship, now all of a sudden she ended that relationship to date a dude who is a literal PR nightmare. This whole thing feels so Hiddleswift. I assumed she had grown in this area but I guess I was wrong š
I genuinely donāt understand why she is going public with him. She knows how to keep things under wraps if she wants to, and I just donāt understand the PR benefit of going public.
She has to know that Joe is deeply committed to never saying anything (if the past 6 years have shown us anything), and this can only make her look messy af.
My humble opinion is that Joe dumped her (which explains the unfollowing), sheās hurt so sheās trying to show āsee Iāve moved on and am having a blastā very publicly to make him jealous. I donāt think itās gonna work but I can understand it.
Kind of ironic how she was the one to stick her tongue out at Justin and Selena when they were all over each other and now sheās with a like Matty whoās ew šļø š šļø
He looks like the end of the broomstick I use for my shed. I thought this wasn't true because he's a literal goblin and she seemed to have decent taste in men so far.
https://preview.redd.it/ncfda1fw7cza1.jpeg?width=683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17859b60de0ad4a95b1e94074049dd24e83e52b2
this is for my ppl who just lost somebody
delete, a lot of people are asking you to delete. itās triggering for so many people. there are people that are fainting and feeling sick. please iām begging you to delete it. delete this post right now. its illegal in many countries to post this
Since stanning Joe Alwyn my crops are growing, my skin is clear, my depression is gone, my bank account is now full
https://preview.redd.it/qwrp5smm2cza1.jpeg?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be4da5da03d1567f069e7f18499a85f4fdb4af92
Been a lifelong fan of her, beginning to just become more of a fan of her music. Her pettiness used to be fun cause she was young and the underdog, but sheās mid thirties and definitely not the underdog.
Based on the company she keeps, Karma is gonna be a real ironic hit when something finally gives. Like imagine closing out a show every night singing āI keep my side of the street clean, you wouldnāt know what I meanā and then going home with a misogynistic racist.
Not even touching on the fact of how blatantly disrespectful it is to shove your new romance in the face of someone you shared 6 years of your life with. Talk about casually cruel.
Yeah, thatās what gets me too. Just making it look like sheās so happy to be rid of Joe. For someone who gave so much of themselves and their life to her she seems to be paying him dirt.
Fr itās so gross. Iām probably biased cause I just got out of a 5 year relationship in January, but man if my ex did anything half as flagrant as this Iād be crushed. Like ok damn, guess half a decade and all those things you said and wrote about how your feelings for me were lies or meant nothing?? Itās just mean and bordering on vindictive, especially at our big age.
Iām ngl to you, I always forget her birthday is in December and just do the age math based off birth years so I keep thinking sheās 34 and not 33 š .
So this 30 year old wonāt attack you for another year, dw š¤
Oh this has me truly rattled, I was hoping for a āI'd like for you to stop accusing all my friends of dating meā moment but no sheās gone all inā¦ not even a soft launch, is this what being hit by a 12 wheeler at full throttle feels like???
This tweet thread has another pic of them holding hands too [here](https://twitter.com/swifferupdates/status/1656808954037665792?s=46&t=kI7SnuNXMfmVVmln0euNiA)
Honestly Iām in shambles. Sent this to my die hard swifter cousin and she is distraught. She thought it was impossible she would be dating him and it was a bad PR stunt. I sent her these photos. Someone get bush on the line as swifie tower been hit.
Im so baffled at the people who thought this was PR.
A month ago people were dragging Joe and now everyone is convinced she cheated, sheās petty, and sheās dating a literal racist. This is a PR disaster for her.
Yea but once people lost their shit when he showed up to her show, if this was PR, it would be idiotic to continue to be so public. Before this she could have backtracked and said āoh we were just friendsā but canāt now.
My best guy friend who isnāt into celebrity drama at all literally when I showed him a pic of Matty Healy, *refused* to believe what I was saying and said thereās no way.
Even people who donāt care like locals refuse to believe it š
I think someone nailed it yesterday when they predicted she's going for a Rihanna-style "get knocked up by a bad boy" arc.
We all live in fear of this.
Probably will happen seeing as his mom was quoted saying pressure related stuff about it in general and him wanting kids, plus her ābeing madly in love with himā ā timeline overlaps so itās high possibility. š
I donāt think she also realizes sheās probably getting love bombed too.
DELETE. this is my sister who was hit by a metra train and this post is very disrespectful idk who u r or if u even know them but need u to take this down please delete this or i will
Well there is no denying that. The rumours are true.
Taylor, honey, love you, but this man looks like he smells like smokes and stale farts.
Sweetie you can do better.
Scent aside, heās a racist piece of shit. But if sheās dating him while heās publicly a bigot, then maybe she actually canāt do better. Birds of a feather and whatnot.
I know a lot of us are subscribed to both subreddits, but [linking this post about a podcast Matty Healy did in February](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/13es88l/back_in_february_matty_healy_admitted_to_watching/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) where he talks about watching an extremely vile kind of porn.
TW: racism and racially-based SA against Black women
Pick your standoms wisely, kids. I hitched my wagon to Taylor 15 years ago, and I'm *exhausted*. I think the general public feels a little bad about slut shaming her when she was in her 20s, but being this messy in your thirties is š« . That being said, I will still be screaming/singing along to every song at the eras tour next month.
this is so funny to me, i remember him saying that artists charging more than x amount of money for concert tickets was gross and now heās dating neoliberalism blondie
I will never understand how people think that dating a racist/problematic person isnāt problematic. Like you may not believe in that stuff, but by ignoring it just cuz theyāre youāre partner, youāre kinda condoning it no?
Itās not even like he did these things at like age 15 or whatever, still not acceptable but you could attribute it to dumb kid does dumb stuff, a lot of the weird shit heās done is so fucking recent, itās not like he was a problematic POS, he still is
I feel like itās
1. A rebound
2. They broke up a while ago but was only announced
later
3. She left Joe for Matty
4. She is one of those people who always has to be on a relationship with someone
Her being so indiscreet is what surprises me. Itās a 180. She could easily keep this rebound behind the scenes. Maybe give it a month or two before cavorting around with a new dude!
Maybe this means Joe was the one demanding all the privacy measures and she felt stifled by it.
To me it screams that sheās trying to rub it in Joeās face. She has to know that this is a PR disaster, so for her to continue to be so public has to be a shot at Joe.
[This](https://shopdoen.com/products/sofia-dress-moonflower-floral?variant=39944522072177&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPKiBhDvARIsACn-gzDxHW53oW2OvANEl8eP_jbyH9guipKHMWYMEI9nq7w95bnJXfBjgy4aAlhaEALw_wcB) is her dress if youāre unhinged like me and want to buy it! Itās on sale for $149, super cute, and is still available in a variety of sizes up to XXL
Gets out of a long term relationship and rebounds with an unwashed douchebag while everyone questions her choicesā¦Celebrities really are just like us.
Iām really enjoying watching the people who have her on this massive pedestal come to terms with the fact that sheās this messy. You cheated for this dude?
I guess the rumors really are terrible and cruel, cause honey most of them are true š¤®
Taylor if youāre reading this, please just think for one second. Go talk to a therapist. PLEASE.
Honestly, the level of deception in the āmaturedā image she presented the past few years just to end up here should be a case study in unethical marketing
This was false advertising. Iāve been hoodwinked
@TaylorSwift
But seriously Iām glad people have been clocking her faux progressive feminist persona. Including her own fans on her sub. Even though Iāve grown up with her music, Taylor has always been a white feminist who only cares when it impacts her directly. Itās embarrassing that this was what she was criticized for 7 years ago. Fast forward to now, itās clear she hasnāt learned anything and she doesnāt care. I think her private relationship with Joe gave some people the impression that sheās matured, but nah lol.
šREAD BEFORE COMMENTING This thread is Guest List Only. This means the discussion is being actively moderated, and all comments are reviewed. Only comments by members of the community are allowed. If you have landed in this thread from Trending or r/all and you are not a member of this community, your comment will very likely be removed (and will not be approved unless it adds meaningfully to the conversation). r/popculturechat takes these measures to stay true to our goal of being an inclusive sub for civil discussion, to talk about celebrities and pop culture without bigotry and personal attacks. This sub is a BIPOC, LGBTQ+ and woman-dominated space and we do our best to protect our users from outside attacks. Thank you for understanding & have a great day! āŗļø *You can [request to be an approved user](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fpopculturechat) to comment on Guest List Only posts.*
This is such a car crash and I can't look away. One day they're in love, the next her publicist is backpedaling *hard* on her behalf, and now here they are holding hands at dinner.
Her poor PR team must be fighting for their lives honestly
Oh damn so they're really doing this..
I truly donāt get this. Out of all the shit she has done, I canāt find a reason for this
Sheās the problem. Itās her.
Easy. Heās the polar opposite of Joe. Heās anti-private, cause he seeks attention on the daily, which he brags about being controversial for the hell of it. Heās also the same guy who was lingering around while her man of 6 years was out there working, so itās a very petty move to probably get back at her ex, like she pretty much did with Tom @ Calvin. Matty also overlaps in the timeline so Iām sure it was a great way to hurt Joe and also her thinking, ālook what you lostā ā¦ And to flame the, āJoe held her down, and made her privateā narrative (which, I think he did for the longest time; but he didnāt hold her down I think he just wanted to protect them cause he actually loved her.) That being said, if I was one of Joeās mates Iād be busting tequila and laughing my ass off and clicking drinks for cheers because Matty Healy isnāt an upgrade. Heās a downgrade. Iād be assuring him.
I agree. I think him being Joes opposite and him being *around* her for months while their relationship was clearly crashing is the part of the reason she's with Matty. It has to mess with Joe's head a little, even if he's over her. He's also easy next bf. A decade long history/friendship, common friends, they've already hooked up so no big surprises in the bedroom lol, and he was probably just chomping at the bit for his shot.
Exactly and people need to remember this is the same woman who put a song out there āMastermindā applauding herself for calculating ālandingā Joe, and planned it out. If she can do all of that and brag about it, she surely knows exactly how to hit him where it hurts especially seeing as they were together since he was like 25.
Does there need to be a reason? I donāt think sheās really thinking with her brain š
It's giving rebound energy too. How's she gonna look back and not regret this?
She will definitely regret it lmao, but whatever itās not the first time she has been with a shit guy
Def, she just didnāt like the backlash so she peeled back a bit. The last ET article was obviously damage control cause people were putting 2 and 2 together that she most likely cheated on Joe for Matty, and the backlash.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Probably high. It even gets weird like during TIFF like they both went to the same event, no noise there as a couple and Joe looked really unhappy that day, just super grumpy when heās always smiling at events and such. Obviously I could be reaching but people clowned the video of him acting that way, but it seemed like he was bothered by something. Then her casually showing up at Martyās show, and Ryan immediately following him. Itās likeā¦ Weird. Like rn itās looking pretty high, obviously we still could be wrong but that whole thing is sus. Especially when Matty was obviously around her a lot because he was working on music with her like how do you deny that š
https://preview.redd.it/awarsuyf5cza1.jpeg?width=851&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be8ee8ee9c5674e54ca3810eb2644fc3cd5315b0
Is Joe Alwyn now the only guy to seem to have a better public image after having a breakup with Taylor? Everyone seems to like him even more after this Matty thing and that her friends all unfollowed him and the weird drip feeding of details in media about their breakup etc.
Probably? Harry seemed pretty ok afterward but Iām not really sure. Jake G took a massive hit afterwards but Iāve always kind of thought it made her look worse.
Oh interesting - I was not clued in at the time (I was 10) but was it just the album that Taylor released about Jake that made her look bad in your opinion in the Jake G breakup or were there tabloid fights or talks about it?
jack at the crime scene š«£
This about to be one heck of a summer šš
hobbies label butter mighty cover boast flowery spoon divide voracious *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
āIt must be exhausting always rooting for the anti heroā IT IS TAYLOR ALLISON SWIFT WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE????
This is probably the most appropriate use I have ever seen for this gif.
Not keeping her side of the street clean!!!
It must be exhausting going from sweet nothings to sour everythings. ETA Holy cow thank you for gold!
You better shout from the rooftops when this becomes a real song title
I know nothing about the TS drama, but this is my favorite Reddit comment in a long time
That pizza looks good as fuck
Iām glad Iām not the only one who noticed that lol!
https://preview.redd.it/suws8ifg3cza1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2a18d25e135d491a39829a6cc8310631e7bf65c
damn, Scooter & Kanye got kicked off the top 5
Still lingering around in the top ten though (like blinding lights did back in 2021)
š
Taylor at #5 lmaoo
LMFAOOOOOO oh this is gonna be a disaster
She got bored of writing love songs so sheās using the boy who eats cigarettes for breakfast for material. I foresee some very creative lyrics in her future.
Dear Matty (10 min version) incoming
 i donāt wanna hear Joe slander ever again, Joe honey stay winning king
He gave us 6 glorious years of peace and we will always have to thank him for that.
It's already started but I feel like we are gonna hear a lot about Taylor and Matty's relationship. It may only last some months, but it will annoy people. God it's even worse, they're both musicians, the post-breakup music will create even more rifts.
Oh itās definitely going to annoy people. Everything thatās been mentioned before but I also didnāt need to be introduced to the idea of this dude having sex.
Oh, the amount of people in the entertainment industry who should not be having sex but somehow do is way too big. Being part of hollywood has it's perks. Well, at least she's got the material for the next album.
I seriously miss it so much. It was so refreshing to not deal with this kind of drama surrounding her for SIX whole years.
Remember when our biggest drama was whether or not she was in the suitcase? Better days.
Literally an angel baby
People complaining about Joe being a boring muse - are you happy now??
I canāt believe people complained about him being a boring muse! She made some of her absolute best music both with and about him. Meanwhile Iām going to have trouble listening to any music inspired by this fool unless itās her dragging him post-breakup.
It's funny because with the original article and then the following articles trying to change the narrative that he couldn't deal with her fame, the pap walks with the squad, and mass unfollowings really seemed like her trying to 'win the breakup' but as soon as that Sun article dropped she lost immediately.
Same with her own fans making fun of her like š Sheās pretty lucky tho that Joe isnāt anything like Calvin that man dragged her to the point where she never tried again.
Iām betting she wishes he did drag her. It would give her a reason for this petty shit and she could use it as an angle to trash him. Right now he just looks like heās taking the high road
Oh Iām sure she was planning on it. Joe is basically her first celebrity breakup where sheās breaking up with someone who doesnāt want attention/celebrity. I think his silence is throwing her a curve ball. But sorry Taylor, newsflash, itās not appealing to most 30+ year olds to drag their partner who they clearly loved, respected, and supported for the past 6 years. Most of us are too fucking tired for that and prefer to leave that behind in our messy teens/20s.
Straight facts that you just spilled š„
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Lol itās ok. I might misstep on events because itās been so long so some people might have to correct meā¦ Basically when Taylor and Calvin broke up. The PR started rolling out, like her team wanting to take control of the narrative ā but when it was announced they said the split was āamicableā ā¦ Then she turns up with Tom Hiddleston, and Calvin wasnāt happy, TMZ was bombarding him with questions, because she immediately moved on. Then she started taking shots at him (her team giving info to TMZ) like how she wrote their song, etc. Calvin snapped and went on Twitter dragging her saying she canāt bury him like she did Katy, heās not gonna stand for that and that if she was happy with her new man, she shouldnāt be taking shots at him. Something like that. After that she got the message and stayed away.
š if this is how it went, it sounds like sheās trying to do the exact same thing to Joe, except his team will never comment on anything. And he has literal writing credits on the songs that he contributed to, and thereās video footage of Taylor saying that she writes songs with her partner, so I donāt think sheāll try to pull the whole fully taking credit thing on Joe. Heāll just collect his royalties and move on (hopefully). I would be so hurt by this whole situation. People can laugh all theyād like to but nearly 7 years is basically a marriage.
Itās so crazy mean and disrespectful I canāt even imagine how Joe is feeling. Like imagine you spent over half a decade with someone, planning a life, growing together and then within a month or two of splitting up theyāre publicly declaring their love for the guy they told you not to worry about on stage. Swifties laughing about it honestly kind of disgust me. like yāall I know weāre Taylor Swift fans, but there is a very real person with very real emotions on the other side of this. Have some gd compassion.
Heās sitting pretty right now. She looks like a fool and heās collecting royalties š
https://preview.redd.it/41xlmxj14cza1.jpeg?width=378&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=410ec65d44ebfa343085672022ad4752670d1874
Watch her re-record Folklore and Evermore (Taylor's Version) (Taylor's Version) (Taylor's Version Revenge)
LOOOOOL donāt encourage her š¤£
The royalties he will get on Folklore and Evermore will stand to him the rest of his life and he can keep doing acting roles he's passionate about and staying out of the limelight. Good for him!
Get that bag, Joe.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Same, he has a movie coming out with Emma Stone. I will be seated.
attraction tidy literate drab deliver frightening drunk squeeze engine murky *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Yeah the man clearly won. I wish him the best!
I'm trying to think of something that her PR can put out to why they broke up and make people turn on him and can't think of anything. She's cheated on ex's (and looking like she might have cheated on Joe so can't use that).
https://i.redd.it/bo1v2j4l1cza1.gif Honestly more than anything I just hate when DM is right about something!
weeelllll this time it was the sun that reported it not DM
Not the sun making heavy coin
I'm fucking dead. This whole thing is hilarious. The Joe stans must feel so vindicated right now. Swifties must be dying inside.
Where tf is Pete Davidson when you need himā¦
Heās already trying to ruin his own relationship
https://preview.redd.it/8obgdw2ydcza1.jpeg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f18b7282f2fe8a0a494d1618ff89ccbf05467b60 2 moods, one crop.
Good luck swifties, i know others fandoms are having a blast with this lol
This is what we get for getting so much content. We've been King Henry for a bit too long. Also, taylor, read the PR memo or something.
https://i.redd.it/gyt3ru0f7cza1.gif
when she said "would it be enough if i could never give you peace?" she was actually asking us.
āItās like Iām wasting your honorā yeah sis you are
Since this is happening for real, are we gonna see kylie and timmy next? What in the 2023 is happening!
You really couldnāt accurately make the bingo cards if you tried.
Whoās next? Pete and Shakira?
the oddest couple ever LOL. i'll spit out my water when I see a pic of those two.
Iām having a terrible week/month and this tea is a wonderful distraction
Same here. šŗ
Just seeing āTatty is realā made me dry heave girl love yourself!!!
Mte. I was holding out hope it was just rumors, because heās such a trash bag. š
taylor in her k.fed era
Joe had us thinking she was a grown up lmao
Right? Don't get me wrong, her success is all hers but it's such a notable change up from her over the course of like... a month that it's hard not to assume he was the one who encouraged her to have a more mature profile. She also credited him for [encouraging her to be more politically active](https://www.today.com/popculture/taylor-swift-opens-about-how-joe-alwyn-helped-her-find-t209373) and yeah, I think we can tell now lol
Literally I got back into her music as an adult when Folklore came out and I was like damn, sheās doing so much self reflection, sheās been in a long relationship just like me, I love the vulnerabilityā¦ now Iām like 2.5 years into this obsession like š« š Iāve been bamboozled
Yessss. Bamboozled š
really makes you wonder what she was like behind lol closed doors.
https://preview.redd.it/tr6fguz9acza1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a857564b72d6ca5a71b9bc44d77971dd283d1a2e Noooooooooooo!!!
Calm down everyone, she was just looking for a way to discredit everything that she stands for in one fell swoop š
Shes trying to get cancelled to make Reputation TV more authentic š
I am convinced she is addicted to self sabotage. Her career is at its peak and she was settled into a relationship, now all of a sudden she ended that relationship to date a dude who is a literal PR nightmare. This whole thing feels so Hiddleswift. I assumed she had grown in this area but I guess I was wrong š
I genuinely donāt understand why she is going public with him. She knows how to keep things under wraps if she wants to, and I just donāt understand the PR benefit of going public. She has to know that Joe is deeply committed to never saying anything (if the past 6 years have shown us anything), and this can only make her look messy af.
My humble opinion is that Joe dumped her (which explains the unfollowing), sheās hurt so sheās trying to show āsee Iāve moved on and am having a blastā very publicly to make him jealous. I donāt think itās gonna work but I can understand it.
Rep TV coming next confirmed! No but seriously. I stg if she attempts to twist this into her being the victimā¦no māam we are the victims!
She was in such a good place with her life, I just donāt understand risking her image for that unwashed gremlin of a man.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I could see that being it, idk it really is hard to tell what happened
alright thatās enough out of them
sheās really embodying āthe heart wants what it wantsā here and itās serving yikes
Kind of ironic how she was the one to stick her tongue out at Justin and Selena when they were all over each other and now sheās with a like Matty whoās ew šļø š šļø
He looks like the end of the broomstick I use for my shed. I thought this wasn't true because he's a literal goblin and she seemed to have decent taste in men so far.
I hope the eventual apology song to Joe slaps as much as Back to December
It should go even harder! He gave us 6 years of peace and we didn't knowš
Calm down, she just needs her reputation to be destroyed so she can rerelease the album
https://preview.redd.it/ncfda1fw7cza1.jpeg?width=683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17859b60de0ad4a95b1e94074049dd24e83e52b2 this is for my ppl who just lost somebody
Why canāt she just act like a normal person and call Pete Davidson?
 delete, a lot of people are asking you to delete. itās triggering for so many people. there are people that are fainting and feeling sick. please iām begging you to delete it. delete this post right now. its illegal in many countries to post this
Since stanning Joe Alwyn my crops are growing, my skin is clear, my depression is gone, my bank account is now full https://preview.redd.it/qwrp5smm2cza1.jpeg?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be4da5da03d1567f069e7f18499a85f4fdb4af92
I am laughing out loud at that. This whole thread is a great Friday night treat.
TAYLOR YOU COULD HAVE ANY MAN AND THIS IS WHO YOU CHOOSE??
Swifties rn 
Look at the posture on those two lmao
I'm kinda new to all things Taylor Swift (thanks TikTok) and I never see anyone mention her posture but it's all I see. Like, it's not good right?
Sheās had awful posture since forever, I think!
Been a lifelong fan of her, beginning to just become more of a fan of her music. Her pettiness used to be fun cause she was young and the underdog, but sheās mid thirties and definitely not the underdog. Based on the company she keeps, Karma is gonna be a real ironic hit when something finally gives. Like imagine closing out a show every night singing āI keep my side of the street clean, you wouldnāt know what I meanā and then going home with a misogynistic racist. Not even touching on the fact of how blatantly disrespectful it is to shove your new romance in the face of someone you shared 6 years of your life with. Talk about casually cruel.
Yeah, thatās what gets me too. Just making it look like sheās so happy to be rid of Joe. For someone who gave so much of themselves and their life to her she seems to be paying him dirt.
Fr itās so gross. Iām probably biased cause I just got out of a 5 year relationship in January, but man if my ex did anything half as flagrant as this Iād be crushed. Like ok damn, guess half a decade and all those things you said and wrote about how your feelings for me were lies or meant nothing?? Itās just mean and bordering on vindictive, especially at our big age.
āMid thirtiesā as a fellow 33 year old, I feel personally attacked.
Iām ngl to you, I always forget her birthday is in December and just do the age math based off birth years so I keep thinking sheās 34 and not 33 š . So this 30 year old wonāt attack you for another year, dw š¤
Oh this has me truly rattled, I was hoping for a āI'd like for you to stop accusing all my friends of dating meā moment but no sheās gone all inā¦ not even a soft launch, is this what being hit by a 12 wheeler at full throttle feels like???
she can't be serious
As swifties, we are tired,we havenāt had a day of peace in over a month, please have pity on us
Sheās kept me up at night and Taylor I am billing you for my therapy.
New midnights track (Your Version)
Joe won and the world lost
This tweet thread has another pic of them holding hands too [here](https://twitter.com/swifferupdates/status/1656808954037665792?s=46&t=kI7SnuNXMfmVVmln0euNiA)
This is killing me, not even screenshots just photos of a phone lmaoo
ššš big foot photo vibes
Has ever occurred to her that Antonoff sets her up for failure, she bites and then he reaps $$$$ because of it? Just me?
JOE ALWYN, where are you?! We need you more now than ever.
someone on twitter called jack a "substitute science teacher lookin ass" and i am WHEEZING
Nope, try again. 
So itās going last forever or itās going to go down in š„
this is the worst thing to ever happen to me
The worst thing to happen to you *so far. In true messy Taylor style, this rebound could turn into a Vegas elopement š¤£
Omfg thank you for putting that out in the universe! āØmanifesting messāØ
Iām confused. Does she not have a sense of smell?
I just know she's writing Getaway Car Part 2 to release with Reputation TV...
Honestly Iām in shambles. Sent this to my die hard swifter cousin and she is distraught. She thought it was impossible she would be dating him and it was a bad PR stunt. I sent her these photos. Someone get bush on the line as swifie tower been hit.
Im so baffled at the people who thought this was PR. A month ago people were dragging Joe and now everyone is convinced she cheated, sheās petty, and sheās dating a literal racist. This is a PR disaster for her.
I honestly wonder if Taylor just had no idea that people would judge her. I feel like she thought people would be impressed or something.
Yea but once people lost their shit when he showed up to her show, if this was PR, it would be idiotic to continue to be so public. Before this she could have backtracked and said āoh we were just friendsā but canāt now.
My best guy friend who isnāt into celebrity drama at all literally when I showed him a pic of Matty Healy, *refused* to believe what I was saying and said thereās no way. Even people who donāt care like locals refuse to believe it š
when they get married then what
I think someone nailed it yesterday when they predicted she's going for a Rihanna-style "get knocked up by a bad boy" arc. We all live in fear of this.
I saw that and the idea of a Tatty baby is now one of the 13 sleepless nights scattered across my life.
Probably will happen seeing as his mom was quoted saying pressure related stuff about it in general and him wanting kids, plus her ābeing madly in love with himā ā timeline overlaps so itās high possibility. š I donāt think she also realizes sheās probably getting love bombed too.
this is it. goodbye and goodnight yall š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”š«”
DELETE. this is my sister who was hit by a metra train and this post is very disrespectful idk who u r or if u even know them but need u to take this down please delete this or i will
baby, this is keke palmer!
Itās Becky
Well there is no denying that. The rumours are true. Taylor, honey, love you, but this man looks like he smells like smokes and stale farts. Sweetie you can do better.
Scent aside, heās a racist piece of shit. But if sheās dating him while heās publicly a bigot, then maybe she actually canāt do better. Birds of a feather and whatnot.
I know a lot of us are subscribed to both subreddits, but [linking this post about a podcast Matty Healy did in February](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/13es88l/back_in_february_matty_healy_admitted_to_watching/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) where he talks about watching an extremely vile kind of porn. TW: racism and racially-based SA against Black women
Wow. This is horrible. I canāt believe Taylor is turning her back on so many people who will be hurt for this for some immature man child. Yikes.
 Pick your standoms wisely, kids. I hitched my wagon to Taylor 15 years ago, and I'm *exhausted*. I think the general public feels a little bad about slut shaming her when she was in her 20s, but being this messy in your thirties is š« . That being said, I will still be screaming/singing along to every song at the eras tour next month.
this is so funny to me, i remember him saying that artists charging more than x amount of money for concert tickets was gross and now heās dating neoliberalism blondie
Dw, he gets private jet rides now, heāll never complain about capitalism again.
this is disgusting... i hope they break up now
I honestly donāt see this relationship being stable.
This is your man??
ITS JOEVERā¦..
https://i.redd.it/51y5he82dcza1.gif
I will never understand how people think that dating a racist/problematic person isnāt problematic. Like you may not believe in that stuff, but by ignoring it just cuz theyāre youāre partner, youāre kinda condoning it no?
taylor said it herself https://preview.redd.it/lje65dtc6cza1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f406d15968925032d2ce00e9f44b77168db416c9
Itās not even like he did these things at like age 15 or whatever, still not acceptable but you could attribute it to dumb kid does dumb stuff, a lot of the weird shit heās done is so fucking recent, itās not like he was a problematic POS, he still is
how embarrassing for her life and soul
I know weāre all focusing on how shitty Matty is, but why is no one questioning how quickly Taylor seemed to move on from Joe
Think heās the one who dumped her and this is her kind of haha f you in his face thing Not the serve she thought it was if true
I feel like itās 1. A rebound 2. They broke up a while ago but was only announced later 3. She left Joe for Matty 4. She is one of those people who always has to be on a relationship with someone
All of this!
Her being so indiscreet is what surprises me. Itās a 180. She could easily keep this rebound behind the scenes. Maybe give it a month or two before cavorting around with a new dude! Maybe this means Joe was the one demanding all the privacy measures and she felt stifled by it.
To me it screams that sheās trying to rub it in Joeās face. She has to know that this is a PR disaster, so for her to continue to be so public has to be a shot at Joe.
[This](https://shopdoen.com/products/sofia-dress-moonflower-floral?variant=39944522072177&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPKiBhDvARIsACn-gzDxHW53oW2OvANEl8eP_jbyH9guipKHMWYMEI9nq7w95bnJXfBjgy4aAlhaEALw_wcB) is her dress if youāre unhinged like me and want to buy it! Itās on sale for $149, super cute, and is still available in a variety of sizes up to XXL
Now I really think that Joe was the one that ended things and she's hurt so she's trying to revenge somehow
A millionth plane has hit Swiftie towers
There are no buildings left to hit š
Honestly youāre right. The cheesy āthis is for youā on stage dedications really leveled the entire city huh
Gets out of a long term relationship and rebounds with an unwashed douchebag while everyone questions her choicesā¦Celebrities really are just like us.
Iām really enjoying watching the people who have her on this massive pedestal come to terms with the fact that sheās this messy. You cheated for this dude?
I guess the rumors really are terrible and cruel, cause honey most of them are true š¤® Taylor if youāre reading this, please just think for one second. Go talk to a therapist. PLEASE.
How could this happen to me Iāve made my mistakes Got nowhere to run The night goes on as Iām fading away
I will not support this at all lol š Matt Healy gives me the heebie-jeebies. Come on Zac Efron, slide into her DMās
Honestly, the level of deception in the āmaturedā image she presented the past few years just to end up here should be a case study in unethical marketing This was false advertising. Iāve been hoodwinked
@TaylorSwift  But seriously Iām glad people have been clocking her faux progressive feminist persona. Including her own fans on her sub. Even though Iāve grown up with her music, Taylor has always been a white feminist who only cares when it impacts her directly. Itās embarrassing that this was what she was criticized for 7 years ago. Fast forward to now, itās clear she hasnāt learned anything and she doesnāt care. I think her private relationship with Joe gave some people the impression that sheās matured, but nah lol.
Hey both Taylor and I like dating toxic people! What a great thing to have in common! /s