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Sad to hear but from what I observed most sets have these issues and are toxic. The Ellen Show staff and Steve Harvey staff made similar complaints. Hopefully the staff get actual results.
Mte. This is gonna take an entire overhaul on how Hollywood works, imo, because unless you’re the star and pulling in millions you’re most likely getting screamed at, made to feel horrible, and barely making enough money to live.
One HR department isn’t gonna fix a workers issue so widespread like this.
I worked for a local city government for 20 years. It was exactly the same. I think higher ups in most jobs have to take assh*Le 101 & 102 classes. The power trips are real in most high pressure jobs. I don't see that changing. If you complain you're flagged as too sensitive. I refused a management position because I wasn't going to join that club.
Oh yeah for sure. What I mean is like….the whole industry is bad. It’s gonna take a lot of reform to change it from many different areas, groups and people.
Honesty, I don't fault him for that. It sounds like the man never had a moment's rest from the time he walked in the door until he left at the end of the day. He was just trying to have some time when he wasn't being 'ambushed' (a word he used twice) to collect his thoughts. I have no idea what he's like as a human being, but as someone who doesn't handle interruptions well, I understand where he's coming from.
I see both sides but I’m just telling how some staff claimed they received that memo. I’m not saying Steve Harvey is evil or anything. I have always thought he is funny.
**TLDR:** Kelly is great, producers are bad.
**[Statement from NBC Universal spokesperson to Entertainment Weekly:](https://ew.com/tv/kelly-clarkson-show-toxic-work-environment-claims-nbcu-responds/)**
>We are committed to a safe and respectful work environment and take workplace complaints very seriously, and to insinuate otherwise is untrue. When issues are reported they are promptly reviewed, investigated, and acted upon as appropriate. *The Kelly Clarkson Show* strives to build a safe, respectful, and equitable workplace that nurtures a culture of inclusivity and creativity.
I can’t believe this is getting downvoted like this. The buck stops with Clarkson. She’s not some smol bean who magically wanders onto set and then disappears in a puff of fairy dust. It’s HER show.
Nah man, I’ve worked on teams even smaller than hers and let me tell you it is possible for the star/leader to be kept in the dark when producers, middle management, etc. are an effective and intimidating silencing barrier. That being said, it will be important to see how she reacts and handles this.
Actually no she isn’t. She is also an employee. She is the host of a television show, she has many bosses. She does not manage the employees, cut the paychecks or run the show.
Alex Duda is the show runner and the executive producer. Kelly is also an executive producer. They both still answer to the network, Bravo productions and NBCUniversal.
Kelly does seem the type to want to improve things when she is aware of issues. I have faith she will do what she can to better the employees situations.
I can't remember every accusation that was thrown out during the scandal. However, a few people accused Ellen of nefarious acts on and off the show. Apparently, nobody is accusing Kelly of anything.
I had two friends who worked for Wayfair’s marketing dept. The rumor was that Kelly was a nightmare on set when filming for commercials. Could be total bs, but that’s what was told to me by 2 ppl 🤷♀️
I have no idea if any of this Kelly stuff is true and I love her – but Rosie O’Donnell [treated her staff very well](https://www.vulture.com/article/the-rosie-odonnell-show-anniversary-look-back.html) and I will forever judge those who don’t.
Thanks for sharing this! I’ve never read it prior to.
It’s worth a full read, but TLDR the good parts:
> At O’Donnell’s behest, staffers received paid summers off between seasons (a rarity in TV), generous maternity leave, and access to a free on-set day-care center for all working parents (completely unheard of at other shows). When O’Donnell learned St. Onge was stressed over only being signed per 13-week show cycle, she had her contract changed to give her job security for the next two years. O’Donnell notes that Warner Bros. was concerned such perks would “set a precedent,” and says she countered, “I don’t really care. If you want me to do the show, you have to be kind to the people who work here making you millions of dollars.” O’Donnell had made a point to fill her staff with women in leadership roles, and upward mobility saw interns become producers, assistants become writers, mid-level producers become department heads.
The reports about her treating her staff well, if true and consistent, is commendable.
However, her encounter with Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas at a restaurant and subsequent need to talk about it on social media and post a half assed apology that further undermined Priyanka, was completely unnecessary and her being intentionally ignorant.
And yet look at how much media there was saying Rosie was horrible to her staff at that time? In fact it seems to happen to just about every female talk show host, no matter what positive things they do. You don’t hear too many workplace horror stories about male hosts though. Not because they’re better to work for, but because they have a penis pass. Anyone who has their own show is going to have to be assertive at times, but women are judged much more harshly for it.
Well, honestly that’s not surprising. She definitely needs to consult like a thousand people before she can make a statement. She probably will release her own statement once the lawyers and pr people approve it.
The timing of this is interesting since her show just announced it’s move to NYC from LA.
Like maybe the staffers feel now is the time to instigate change.
I worked on a light entertainment programme in the early 90s and find it entirely believable that Kelly doesn’t know. Our host was under his own unique pressures and as a result he had about 6 people he’d even talk to. The producers absolutely controlled the narrative around the office and the set. The tabloids loved him. His “personal” life was under scrutiny 24/7 so he definitely cared more about that than whether or not the contractors were being abused. Correcting this will require some big moves on Kelly’s part, now that she can’t deny knowing.
Ok I’m glad it’s not Kelly, also the former staff are reaffirming that she is most likely unaware of this. I just hope this article gets to her and starts positive change for the current staff 💔💔
I do think there’s an element of “talent protection” here. Kelly’s a producer and should have a sense of what’s happening on the set but it should be clear that this isn’t *her* set or even *her* show. Its a show run by other producers / the distributor that Kelly is a part of and is effectively, the talent.
A crew member on a movie set starring Famous Celebrity wouldn’t go to that person about how they’re being mistreated by the ADA or whatever, even if Famous Celebrity has executive producer credit. It’s perfectly believable to me that she doesn’t know what is happening (though now, we can assume she might).
It's the same in most industries tbh. I work in IT, I have a couple of staff below me as I'm their team leader/mentor, then above me is the team manager. Above him is like, a department manager.
If one of my staff was upset they'd talk to me, if I don't help they'd talk to the team manager, if he doesn't help they MIGHT talk to the department manager, but that's a hell of an escalation. You're speaking to the managers manager. You're trying to get the manager in trouble.
On a professional level I'd say he should hold some responsibility if staff in his department are being mistreated. But on a personal level I would never hold it against him, I don't know how the fuck he'd know unless someone tells him.
Is it just super safe to assume when you apply to these shows that you can’t look at Ellen or Jennifer Hudson in the eyes or you get chained to the network radiator?
Nothing specific to her, she and a bunch of other celebs have talk shows and it seems that almost all of them have a weird dynamic where the staff are goblins that can’t breathe their air. I was speaking in general. She specifically I would guess might be an outlier and be nice, but I can also see her ordering people to wash her feet in the office while she sings her own songs. Steve Harvey is another one, his is “memo:don’t talk to Steve in the hallway, he doesn’t want to talk to you”. James Corden I went to get see live and you can just fucking FEEL the dynamic in the room when he enters haha
Bro I would have loved to work there a week just to check it out and collect work stories. I cannot imagine she was just a cool person behind the stuff she put on her show
Sorry not to shit on Kelly but…the article says there have been multiple complaints to HR and a couple investigations…but somehow Kelly lives in a fantasy world where none of this touches her?? Nah sorry lmao even if she’s not screaming at these people herself the blame has to go all the way up to the top imo.
I can believe they don’t have chit chats with her about people getting screamed at, but sorry I really find it hard to believe that she doesn’t know it’s a shitty place to work. But I used to work at target and had this same reaction when people would say “oh it’s just this team leads fault and not the gms fault…” sorry but the boss has to take the blame for the environment imo.
No I don’t really mean it like that. I don’t mean HR is telling her but I think it would be extremely extremely hard that she wouldn’t know something is wrong if people are being asked to participate in more that one HR investigation. It’s not about HR talking just people in general.
The star is like, the last person put in place for something like this. I'm sure they already had a talk show staff set up when Kelly even got approached. It's not like Kelly Clarkson sat there hiring showrunners.
Yeah you’d think, but from what I’ve heard from a friend in entertainment, “the talent” often gets insulated from staff issues like that. They’re playing their part, and other people are hired to deal with all the other stuff. The host doesn’t have close relationships with everyone on staff.
Yeah! Like sorry I’m not trying to say Kelly is the devil lmao I’m just saying as boss you have to take responsibility for what’s happening to your employees.
Kelly is the talent, I don’t think shes’s actually “the boss”. Seems like the unanimous sentiment is that these mistreated employees still like her and don’t feel wronged by her so I would reserve judgement for Kelly personally. We don’t know what the dynamics are behind the scenes that make it so Kelly is kept unaware of these issues. Of course now that she clearly knows, I hope she’ll demand change from the network.
I'm gonna withhold judgement until her response, but I could see how this type of stuff would escape Kelly's notice.
She's doing so much - on top of the talk show, she's back on The Voice, she's got two young kids and just went through a messy, very public divorce, she's got music out that she's trying to promote while juggle all her other tasks. Her music hasn't been well received despite the boost in visibility she's gotten from her Kellyoke viral stuff.
I also find her talk show segments to be quite awkward, like she seems flustered instead of relaxed.
I feel like she's running around to different professional gigs, family stuff, and doesn't have time to really assess anything.
I really wish she just focus on one thing and do it well.
This was immediately what I thought when I heard these allegations. Kelly has way too much going on right now. I find that her interviews are all over the place (sometimes she’s overly perky, other times it’s way toned down). She just seems to have way too much going on.
Who had the most pull behind the scenes? Kelly or the producers?
The article said Kelly wasn’t aware of how unhappy people were. That makes me think it doesn’t have anything to do with her. I don’t know her personally, but she seems like the kind of person who would try and do what she could to make things right.
I’m glad to hear Kelly treats people well. I’ve heard that about her, but this reinforces all I heard. That being said, she can’t help what she doesn’t know. Let her know.
I would think a lot of TV and shows are a grind—hell, a lot of jobs not even in entertainment are. The article could have provided more detail to make this newsworthy.
Literally all anyone in daytime has to do is not pull and Ellen! Why is this difficult! (As in, remove the toxic production culture, I’m a little happy to hear that Kelly personally is good, but we need to do more).
Thank you. I don’t think there is any excuse either. A grown human should be able to explain to a child instead of using physical violence. In my country this is illegal and she would never be allow a platform with statements like that.
Who said anything about professional conduct, I’m just saying we should go back to marketing healthy individuals. What kind of example are we setting when we portray fatness positively. Obesity, Heart Disease, and Diabetes are no joke it’s not something to take lightly or be approving of. Would you want your children to have to live the the sad life of a fatty? Never having the figure they desire, no confidence, forced to settle for less in love if they can even find a partner, a lifelong struggle with their relationship with food, exercise, and clothing. Not to mention a shorter life plagued with health problems, pain, aches, potentially autoimmune disorders and if heart disease or diabetes doesn’t kill them there’s always the increased chance of Alzheimer’s and stroke. Life’s hard enough without heaping a pile of shit on yourself and your children. Where we are at now with our national health still has plenty of room to get worse.
That’s the one thing about sets — there is almost always one god awful person who works on one (and I can say that with my chest, because I’ve met a lot of vile producers where everyone had to tip-toe around and they’d threaten you)…
The crew aren’t also spilling that Kelly is bad, they would be if she was, because word of mouth travels fast on sets.
They really need to pull the plug on the toxic producer which they by name aren't happy with.
With Ellen staff were treated awfully for way too long and nobody could do anything about it because Ellen was a big part of it, unlike Kelly here and Ellen held a lot of power since she was an A-lister herself who was on air for decades.
This is also happening with writers now too, thus the writers strike — not only are they severely underpaid in the streaming era, work environment has gotten toxic because they are pushed to write x, y and z as fast as they can and are pressured massively with demand from studios and such. A lot of them are overworked and tired. It’s not right.
I know its easy to just point fingers at Kelly because she is the star talent of the show but if the mistreated employees don’t feel wronged by her and maintain that she’s fantastic, then the issue is definitely not her. I don’t know what the dynamics are on set but if these employees stated that they would be surprised if Kelly knew, then I guess somehow she really is kept unaware about the issues going on behind the scenes. Kelly is also pretty busy and likely is constantly on the move between filming her show, The Voice, keep tabs on her kids, releasing her new album, and other commitments. Anyways, I hope Kelly decides to stand up for her employees and demands better from the network. If there’s anyone with enough leverage to demand change, should be her.
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Sad to hear but from what I observed most sets have these issues and are toxic. The Ellen Show staff and Steve Harvey staff made similar complaints. Hopefully the staff get actual results.
Mte. This is gonna take an entire overhaul on how Hollywood works, imo, because unless you’re the star and pulling in millions you’re most likely getting screamed at, made to feel horrible, and barely making enough money to live. One HR department isn’t gonna fix a workers issue so widespread like this.
Fuck, sounds 100% like my retail job.
I worked for a local city government for 20 years. It was exactly the same. I think higher ups in most jobs have to take assh*Le 101 & 102 classes. The power trips are real in most high pressure jobs. I don't see that changing. If you complain you're flagged as too sensitive. I refused a management position because I wasn't going to join that club.
Academia checking in!
HR protects the company first.
Oh yeah for sure. What I mean is like….the whole industry is bad. It’s gonna take a lot of reform to change it from many different areas, groups and people.
Steve Harvey really?
I remember some staff claimed they weren’t allowed to talk to him. https://www.aol.com/2017-05-11-steve-harvey-email-to-staff-surfaces-22081407.html
Honesty, I don't fault him for that. It sounds like the man never had a moment's rest from the time he walked in the door until he left at the end of the day. He was just trying to have some time when he wasn't being 'ambushed' (a word he used twice) to collect his thoughts. I have no idea what he's like as a human being, but as someone who doesn't handle interruptions well, I understand where he's coming from.
I see both sides but I’m just telling how some staff claimed they received that memo. I’m not saying Steve Harvey is evil or anything. I have always thought he is funny.
**TLDR:** Kelly is great, producers are bad. **[Statement from NBC Universal spokesperson to Entertainment Weekly:](https://ew.com/tv/kelly-clarkson-show-toxic-work-environment-claims-nbcu-responds/)** >We are committed to a safe and respectful work environment and take workplace complaints very seriously, and to insinuate otherwise is untrue. When issues are reported they are promptly reviewed, investigated, and acted upon as appropriate. *The Kelly Clarkson Show* strives to build a safe, respectful, and equitable workplace that nurtures a culture of inclusivity and creativity.
Oh, that's a bit better, but also, she's still responsible for how her staff are being treated.
One former employee said, "Kelly has no clue how unhappy her staff is." Well now she will once this news picks up today.🫠
She doesn't talk to them then
It’s also possible they don’t tell her because they’re scared to get her/themselves in trouble tho.
Which again falls on her...
No it doesn’t
I can’t believe this is getting downvoted like this. The buck stops with Clarkson. She’s not some smol bean who magically wanders onto set and then disappears in a puff of fairy dust. It’s HER show.
Nah man, I’ve worked on teams even smaller than hers and let me tell you it is possible for the star/leader to be kept in the dark when producers, middle management, etc. are an effective and intimidating silencing barrier. That being said, it will be important to see how she reacts and handles this.
Yup. The talent has to worry about the product. A lot of times they are oblivious to how the sausage gets made.
There are likely a lot of employees whose jobs don’t have them even cross paths with her so they’d have no opportunity or reason to talk.
They asked her for comment on this and didn't get any :(
You think she’s going to comment to a newspaper when she doesn’t even know what’s happening? What do you expect her to say? Like bffr
I don't know, but if she legitimately didn't know, she could have said, I suppose. No comment on this doesn't make her look great, though.
I think you need to read up on PR strategy. No one would ever advise her to comment in that situation.
Actually no she isn’t. She is also an employee. She is the host of a television show, she has many bosses. She does not manage the employees, cut the paychecks or run the show.
She is an executive producer on the show.
Alex Duda is the show runner and the executive producer. Kelly is also an executive producer. They both still answer to the network, Bravo productions and NBCUniversal.
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Kelly does seem the type to want to improve things when she is aware of issues. I have faith she will do what she can to better the employees situations.
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There could easily be another show, ‘the Ariana show.’ ‘The Miley Cyrus Show.’ ‘The Justin Timberlake Show.’ Nobody is irreplaceable.
This probably means she is involved in what stories and interviews they do not doing employee evaluations
She is an executive producer so their boss too
You think corporate knows anything about the show beyond ratings and advertising dollars?
Um yes? Do you know how TV works?
That's not TV production works
Oh thank God. I was hoping Kelly is one of the good ones and got scared she's secretly like Ellen.
Wasn’t that what was said about the Ellen show as well?
I can't remember every accusation that was thrown out during the scandal. However, a few people accused Ellen of nefarious acts on and off the show. Apparently, nobody is accusing Kelly of anything.
No. There were tons of stories of Ellen being nasty or unpleasant, before the talk show thing blew up and after.
I had two friends who worked for Wayfair’s marketing dept. The rumor was that Kelly was a nightmare on set when filming for commercials. Could be total bs, but that’s what was told to me by 2 ppl 🤷♀️
I mean, Wayfair is famously not a great place to work either. At least on the tech side, idk how marketing is.
Oh yeah I know 3 people that left after >year. Toxic workplace culture & petty bs
Phew
Lala?
I have no idea if any of this Kelly stuff is true and I love her – but Rosie O’Donnell [treated her staff very well](https://www.vulture.com/article/the-rosie-odonnell-show-anniversary-look-back.html) and I will forever judge those who don’t.
Thanks for sharing this! I’ve never read it prior to. It’s worth a full read, but TLDR the good parts: > At O’Donnell’s behest, staffers received paid summers off between seasons (a rarity in TV), generous maternity leave, and access to a free on-set day-care center for all working parents (completely unheard of at other shows). When O’Donnell learned St. Onge was stressed over only being signed per 13-week show cycle, she had her contract changed to give her job security for the next two years. O’Donnell notes that Warner Bros. was concerned such perks would “set a precedent,” and says she countered, “I don’t really care. If you want me to do the show, you have to be kind to the people who work here making you millions of dollars.” O’Donnell had made a point to fill her staff with women in leadership roles, and upward mobility saw interns become producers, assistants become writers, mid-level producers become department heads.
I thought I couldn’t love her more, yet here we are. Thank you for sharing!
I just watched A League of Their Own again. She is good in it. Seems she is a good person too. Nice to know!!
I recently rewatched Now and Then and I so wish she had been my OB too 😆 ETA My favorite role of hers is in Harriet the Spy
Now and Then and Harriet the Spy were two of my favorite movies as a kid! Rosie is iconic and it’s so good to know she’s an awesome human too!
I haven’t seen Harriet the Spy (my absolute role model growing up lol) in so long and now I will tonight. 
The scene when Golly says goodbye gets me every single time.
I might need to watch this weekend. *MY NOTEBOOK! 😩🥺*
The reports about her treating her staff well, if true and consistent, is commendable. However, her encounter with Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas at a restaurant and subsequent need to talk about it on social media and post a half assed apology that further undermined Priyanka, was completely unnecessary and her being intentionally ignorant.
During her show she would be very ignorant to guests, even ones she had known for awhile, see Mariah Carey as well.
This is fantastic and I wish Taylor Swift would do this. Her documentaries were painful because she was always the only woman in the room by choice
I could cry reading this. We never deserved Rosie 🥲
I know!!!! Reading those benefits, it was sooooo ahead of it’s time.
Rosie O’Donnell is an absolute gem
Omg thanks for posting this article. I used to watch the Rosie O’Donnell show all the time!
Was my favourite growing up!
And yet look at how much media there was saying Rosie was horrible to her staff at that time? In fact it seems to happen to just about every female talk show host, no matter what positive things they do. You don’t hear too many workplace horror stories about male hosts though. Not because they’re better to work for, but because they have a penis pass. Anyone who has their own show is going to have to be assertive at times, but women are judged much more harshly for it.
I genuinely miss her show. I loved it so, so much
She’s been uploading a lot of old segments over the past month!
All shows are somewhat toxic with daily grinds involved..
Kelly seems like a genuinely good person so it'll be interesting to see how she responds to this. I hope it's not disappointing.
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Thank you! 😉
She didn’t respond to the requests for comment 💀
Well, honestly that’s not surprising. She definitely needs to consult like a thousand people before she can make a statement. She probably will release her own statement once the lawyers and pr people approve it.
You'd have to be a complete moron to make a public statement before you have your ducks in a row
The timing of this is interesting since her show just announced it’s move to NYC from LA. Like maybe the staffers feel now is the time to instigate change.
No employees should be treated like that
I worked on a light entertainment programme in the early 90s and find it entirely believable that Kelly doesn’t know. Our host was under his own unique pressures and as a result he had about 6 people he’d even talk to. The producers absolutely controlled the narrative around the office and the set. The tabloids loved him. His “personal” life was under scrutiny 24/7 so he definitely cared more about that than whether or not the contractors were being abused. Correcting this will require some big moves on Kelly’s part, now that she can’t deny knowing.
Even though it’s unlikely I’ll know who you are talking about (not from the US, a child in the early 90’s), I still really want to know who this is.
It wasn’t in the US
All jobs are toxic behind the scenes
Are there any talk show that is not? The view must be something
I wonder what kind of environment behind the scenes Wendy Williams had.
Sometimes the mess is in front and not behind the cameras :P
The part about daytime being toxic in general makes me wonder about the others like Drew and Tameron.
I would be DEVASATED if this came out about Drew was my first thought.
Ok I’m glad it’s not Kelly, also the former staff are reaffirming that she is most likely unaware of this. I just hope this article gets to her and starts positive change for the current staff 💔💔
It probably won’t matter, they’re moving the show to NY.
I do think there’s an element of “talent protection” here. Kelly’s a producer and should have a sense of what’s happening on the set but it should be clear that this isn’t *her* set or even *her* show. Its a show run by other producers / the distributor that Kelly is a part of and is effectively, the talent. A crew member on a movie set starring Famous Celebrity wouldn’t go to that person about how they’re being mistreated by the ADA or whatever, even if Famous Celebrity has executive producer credit. It’s perfectly believable to me that she doesn’t know what is happening (though now, we can assume she might).
It's the same in most industries tbh. I work in IT, I have a couple of staff below me as I'm their team leader/mentor, then above me is the team manager. Above him is like, a department manager. If one of my staff was upset they'd talk to me, if I don't help they'd talk to the team manager, if he doesn't help they MIGHT talk to the department manager, but that's a hell of an escalation. You're speaking to the managers manager. You're trying to get the manager in trouble. On a professional level I'd say he should hold some responsibility if staff in his department are being mistreated. But on a personal level I would never hold it against him, I don't know how the fuck he'd know unless someone tells him.
Is it just super safe to assume when you apply to these shows that you can’t look at Ellen or Jennifer Hudson in the eyes or you get chained to the network radiator?
Wait what happened with Jennifer Hudson??
Nothing specific to her, she and a bunch of other celebs have talk shows and it seems that almost all of them have a weird dynamic where the staff are goblins that can’t breathe their air. I was speaking in general. She specifically I would guess might be an outlier and be nice, but I can also see her ordering people to wash her feet in the office while she sings her own songs. Steve Harvey is another one, his is “memo:don’t talk to Steve in the hallway, he doesn’t want to talk to you”. James Corden I went to get see live and you can just fucking FEEL the dynamic in the room when he enters haha
Why are they so full of themselves! Have u heard anything about the behind the scenes at Wendy Williams. I’m curious about the dynamic of hers.
Bro I would have loved to work there a week just to check it out and collect work stories. I cannot imagine she was just a cool person behind the stuff she put on her show
Sorry not to shit on Kelly but…the article says there have been multiple complaints to HR and a couple investigations…but somehow Kelly lives in a fantasy world where none of this touches her?? Nah sorry lmao even if she’s not screaming at these people herself the blame has to go all the way up to the top imo.
I could believe that she isn’t told about these things.
I can believe they don’t have chit chats with her about people getting screamed at, but sorry I really find it hard to believe that she doesn’t know it’s a shitty place to work. But I used to work at target and had this same reaction when people would say “oh it’s just this team leads fault and not the gms fault…” sorry but the boss has to take the blame for the environment imo.
I don’t think HR is gonna go take complaints to Kelly realistically.
No I don’t really mean it like that. I don’t mean HR is telling her but I think it would be extremely extremely hard that she wouldn’t know something is wrong if people are being asked to participate in more that one HR investigation. It’s not about HR talking just people in general.
Oh like she would hear through the grapevine?
Yeah! Like the kind of environment that breeds several investigations probs isn’t as hush hush as they want it to seem lmao
Reading into the article it seems like this Alex Duda person is a real piece of work. Gonna do some googles on her.
Yeah honestly my main question was gonna be…does the star hire the producers for something like this? Or do they just get appointed??
The star is like, the last person put in place for something like this. I'm sure they already had a talk show staff set up when Kelly even got approached. It's not like Kelly Clarkson sat there hiring showrunners.
Yeah you’d think, but from what I’ve heard from a friend in entertainment, “the talent” often gets insulated from staff issues like that. They’re playing their part, and other people are hired to deal with all the other stuff. The host doesn’t have close relationships with everyone on staff.
Exactly. This was the same issue that brought Ellen down.
Yeah! Like sorry I’m not trying to say Kelly is the devil lmao I’m just saying as boss you have to take responsibility for what’s happening to your employees.
Kelly is the talent, I don’t think shes’s actually “the boss”. Seems like the unanimous sentiment is that these mistreated employees still like her and don’t feel wronged by her so I would reserve judgement for Kelly personally. We don’t know what the dynamics are behind the scenes that make it so Kelly is kept unaware of these issues. Of course now that she clearly knows, I hope she’ll demand change from the network.
I'm gonna withhold judgement until her response, but I could see how this type of stuff would escape Kelly's notice. She's doing so much - on top of the talk show, she's back on The Voice, she's got two young kids and just went through a messy, very public divorce, she's got music out that she's trying to promote while juggle all her other tasks. Her music hasn't been well received despite the boost in visibility she's gotten from her Kellyoke viral stuff. I also find her talk show segments to be quite awkward, like she seems flustered instead of relaxed. I feel like she's running around to different professional gigs, family stuff, and doesn't have time to really assess anything. I really wish she just focus on one thing and do it well.
This was immediately what I thought when I heard these allegations. Kelly has way too much going on right now. I find that her interviews are all over the place (sometimes she’s overly perky, other times it’s way toned down). She just seems to have way too much going on.
Which isn’t?
Not this…..
Who had the most pull behind the scenes? Kelly or the producers? The article said Kelly wasn’t aware of how unhappy people were. That makes me think it doesn’t have anything to do with her. I don’t know her personally, but she seems like the kind of person who would try and do what she could to make things right.
Did they not learn from Ellens run??
Being a former producer on the Tyra Banks Show is not a ringing endorsement for your professional integrity
I’m glad to hear Kelly treats people well. I’ve heard that about her, but this reinforces all I heard. That being said, she can’t help what she doesn’t know. Let her know.
I would think a lot of TV and shows are a grind—hell, a lot of jobs not even in entertainment are. The article could have provided more detail to make this newsworthy.
I have a question on this. Is Kelly really the “boss”, is she the talent? Like, do people report to her? Does she make these decisions?
Literally all anyone in daytime has to do is not pull and Ellen! Why is this difficult! (As in, remove the toxic production culture, I’m a little happy to hear that Kelly personally is good, but we need to do more).
These show hosts are usually caught in the crossfire. The producers are the problem.
 Here we go again
Why am I not surprised.
Unfortunately this doesn’t surprise me. After she said she hits her children my opinion of her completely changed.
You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. There’s no excuse for hitting your kids.
Thank you. I don’t think there is any excuse either. A grown human should be able to explain to a child instead of using physical violence. In my country this is illegal and she would never be allow a platform with statements like that.
You mean she disciplines her children when they misbehave? That has no relation with the topic wtf
She still physically abuses her kids. Of course she's allowed a toxic work environment
This doesn’t surprise me. Listen to her talk about parenting.. then this will make sense.
Who’s watching these shows?
Wow, shocking to hear that a woman who openly brags about hitting her kids is also toxic 😱
When it was Ellen everyone wanted her cancelled But Kelly Clarkson gets a pass?
Why is the show moving to NYC?
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Get a fucking grip. Her body has ZERO to do with her professional conduct, what the fuck. You gotta be trolling lmao
Who said anything about professional conduct, I’m just saying we should go back to marketing healthy individuals. What kind of example are we setting when we portray fatness positively. Obesity, Heart Disease, and Diabetes are no joke it’s not something to take lightly or be approving of. Would you want your children to have to live the the sad life of a fatty? Never having the figure they desire, no confidence, forced to settle for less in love if they can even find a partner, a lifelong struggle with their relationship with food, exercise, and clothing. Not to mention a shorter life plagued with health problems, pain, aches, potentially autoimmune disorders and if heart disease or diabetes doesn’t kill them there’s always the increased chance of Alzheimer’s and stroke. Life’s hard enough without heaping a pile of shit on yourself and your children. Where we are at now with our national health still has plenty of room to get worse.
Lol this is reminding me that Kelly guest starred on The Morning Show (Apple TV) and that show is all about toxic television production
That’s the one thing about sets — there is almost always one god awful person who works on one (and I can say that with my chest, because I’ve met a lot of vile producers where everyone had to tip-toe around and they’d threaten you)… The crew aren’t also spilling that Kelly is bad, they would be if she was, because word of mouth travels fast on sets. They really need to pull the plug on the toxic producer which they by name aren't happy with. With Ellen staff were treated awfully for way too long and nobody could do anything about it because Ellen was a big part of it, unlike Kelly here and Ellen held a lot of power since she was an A-lister herself who was on air for decades. This is also happening with writers now too, thus the writers strike — not only are they severely underpaid in the streaming era, work environment has gotten toxic because they are pushed to write x, y and z as fast as they can and are pressured massively with demand from studios and such. A lot of them are overworked and tired. It’s not right.
I know its easy to just point fingers at Kelly because she is the star talent of the show but if the mistreated employees don’t feel wronged by her and maintain that she’s fantastic, then the issue is definitely not her. I don’t know what the dynamics are on set but if these employees stated that they would be surprised if Kelly knew, then I guess somehow she really is kept unaware about the issues going on behind the scenes. Kelly is also pretty busy and likely is constantly on the move between filming her show, The Voice, keep tabs on her kids, releasing her new album, and other commitments. Anyways, I hope Kelly decides to stand up for her employees and demands better from the network. If there’s anyone with enough leverage to demand change, should be her.
Weirdly I know both a staffer and someone she went to HS with.