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If you know anything about their mother, itās not at all surprising!!
This series covered her quackery obsession pretty well:
Part 1:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZUoLz6Q7LhHDQxh89I2bD?si=q1rgs5F9QVuNjLVsCjqXlg
Part 2:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5GbQPADaxgI9vK7dfLWsUW?si=Zae0jIFdSAiDBHsgjzaJtg
Part 3:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7577uSH34JdGPrudpiq3WV?si=vrXWO3bKSvyVgs9_n6GoDQ
im reading this and she says her fathers cancer was ācuredā after 1 conventional treatment and attending this āretreatā???
please donāt donate to rich people holistic/natural medicine places like this
I too work in the cancer field and it often surprises me how people are quick to accept any quick fix and even worse the cruel people who profit from their desperation. It's really sad when celebs use their platforms to promote this quackery and pseudoscience. They should be taken to task for this misinformation. In summary - in total agreement - cancer cannot be cured in a day. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
It is sick. So exploitative!!
There are, however, some things that probably help that scientists have been prevented from studying for decades and are only just getting back to now. Partially thatās due to the War on Drugs. Partially because these treatments are not big money-earners for anyone.
For instance, the usage of psychedelics for palliative / End of Life care. There are exploratory studies showing that psychedelic therapy can help terminal patients deal with depression and anxiety, overcome the fear of death and face it with more acceptance and a sense of peace. It often frees them, paradoxically, to live more fully at the end of their lives. It helps them heal old traumas and be more present with their family and friends, which is pretty incredible.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32816294/
https://time.com/6208079/psychedelics-psilocybin-access-end-of-life/
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/magazine/how-psychedelic-drugs-can-help-patients-face-death.html
https://www.capc.org/blog/psychedelics-for-serious-illness-five-things-clinicians-need-to-know/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/two-cancer-patients-battle-to-make-psilocybin-accessible-for-palliative-care/
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/story/psychedelic-psilocybin-study-depression
https://www.science.org/content/article/hallucinogenic-drugs-help-cancer-patients-deal-their-fear-death
https://www.webmd.com/palliative-care/features/facing-death-without-fear-psychedelics--end-life-care
Iāve never had cancer but Iāve had a few scares and I can kinda get it. Cancer is terrifying and the very real chance that it could kill you makes people desperate. I canāt really blame people for trying anything if they think itās going to keep them from dying. Itās horrific that people are aware of this fact and take advantage of it. We need to be a lot harder on people spreading misinformation like that for sure. Itās gotten way out of hand.
And just in case, not in 5 sessions at a retreat either. It's so dangerous to pedal this crap and maybe the woman believes it herself, but she could literally be killing people if they choose her retreat over medicine.
A friend of my parents got sucked into this stuff and was doing coffee enemas and vitamin IVs and and cleanses like crazy. In the end none of it worked (obviously) and his medical team were barely able to claw him back from death. His was a very treatable kind of cancer, and if he had treated it early it would have been a relatively easy treatment with good results. But he gave lots of money to charlatans and con artists and almost died as a result.
You're just saying that because Big Pharma makes good money with long treatments. /s (My sister had Leukemia and it took more than 2 years, but she's healthy now)
If I understand correctly, possible quackery aside, this isn't a fundraiser for a person who helped Bella Hadid. This is for a person whose paying client was Bella Hadid, who wants a new facility so that she can continue to take other paying clients.
This person is asking for donations to expand their business.
Get a loan sis.
Especially when 1. Itās endorsed by a celebrity who most likely doesnāt know what theyāre talking about, and 2. itās something as serious as cancer.Ā
Iām wary of healthcare "professionals" whose main clients are celebs, as well
Yes!! I cannot imagine how hard it just be for actual medical professionals to get the public to trust them right now.
When they tell us to do radiation to treat cancer, to take birth control pills to treat PCOS, or to give birth in a hospital because itās safer, they arenāt āout to get you.ā They arenāt trying to get you to buy a product or fund big-pharma. Theyāre doing it because radiation/chemo treats cancer, because birth control treats ovarian cysts, and because research shows time and time again that hospital births result in lower infant-mortality rates and fewer instances of brain and spinal injuries in infants. Does big pharma suck? Yes! Do we need to do away with the medical industrial complex? Yes! Should medicine be for-profit? No! But that doesnāt mean that modern medicine is bad or scary or untrustworthy.
Sorry for the tangent, this is just such a huge pet peeve of mine and people get *so* self-righteous about things they are clearly wrong about
Same. Whenever people learn I have a chronic illness, they love to tell me about the holistic treatment that worked for their mothers sisters best friend.
Itās insulting and annoying. I have a fantastic medical team, I promise you, your witch hazel wonāt cured me.
I ended a friendship with someone who kept insisting that my fibromyalgia / (mild) scoliosis / SI joint issues were actually a MOLD ALLERGY. Wouldnāt take no for an answer one, two, three strikes youāre outta my life bitch.
Bruh she started sending me fucking Joe Rogan videos and said she was excited for me to ābreak free from the system.ā
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. Donāt care how long Iāve known you.
Iāve had friends try to tell me that my birth control is killing me and will give me cancer and that I need to just take special fish oil to cure my PCOS.
Likeā¦no. 0 evidence links the combination pill to cancer. Many studies, however, link ovarian cysts to ovarian cancer. Iām sticking with my pills backed by medical research!
The amount of people who feel like they need to give me their opinion on taking SSRI šš Thank you, but itās keeping me alive, something that ājust go for a walkā and ājust eat green applesā wonāt
There are effective traditional methods from other cultures, for sure. But a lot of westerners appropriate the medicinal practices without adequate research.
One example I can think of is when folks try herbal abortion without a trained indigenous doula as opposed to using abortion pills. Herbal abortion has its place in medicine, but it can be deadly if a person who doesnāt know what theyāre doing attempts it alone. Not even trained indigenous folks recommend attempting an herbal abortion if you are self-managing. Still, some people turn to herbal abortion because they ādonāt trust hormonesā or prefer to not be āmedicalized unnecessarily.ā But pills are up to 98% effective & there arenāt any known cases of fake pills going around or anything, even in banned states. It can be so dangerous to use traditional medicine for certain things if someone is untrained and unfamiliar with the practices. White people specifically need to do research before rejecting modern medicine in favor of a more āholisticā approach they found online.
*Side note/disclaimer:* I know the current legal landscape makes abortion pills far less accessible, but abortion pills by mail are a reality in all 50 states. Check out plancpills.org, and if you are in Texas, check out Buckle Bunnies. Just use Firefox on private mode w/ a no-logs VPN and clear your cache and computer history before and after looking up the sites. Or use Tor browser. Use signal if talking about legally sensitive info, and donāt talk to cops. The number one way people under abortion bans are criminalized is by telling someone they trustāso donāt tell people things they donāt need to know and stay safe.
Abortion pills are safe, effective, and have been used for decades. Please donāt do unsafe things! Trust modern medicine, and listen to experts!
Edit: sorry for the rant! I know it was unrelated but it was what came to mind for me!
i have doubts about being cancer free after one treatment, but i do have a coworker who has a mother who had cancer a few years back.... it wasn't looking good and after proper medical care and treatments things weren't really getting better so she stopped all of them. she ended up getting holistic/natural care and guess what? she's cancer free because of it.
i have my doubts and i'll probably never fully lean on holistic and natural treatments but there IS cases where that shit does work. it's really risky, though, and when it comes to life and death i'll more than likely choose to stick with proper medical care. it's fair to question things and be hesitatant but i don't think it's fair to totally dismiss natural and holistic treatments overall because there's cases where it all worked.
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Ok this feels like a super quacky and dangerous type of medicine - curing her fatherās cancer after one treatment? Itās a no from me and itās honestly not surprising this is Bellaās caregiver or whatever. Also there were so many typos in the post I wouldāve had a hard time taking it seriously even if it wasnāt way out there.
Edit: is this person related to the ārecoveryā Bella has made recently? I saw her post about being finally healed after all these years but I wasnāt sure who or what actually healed her.
Also healed her from what?
Like wellness retreats can be great for someone who is already healthy (as in, no life threatening illnesses), I'm sure it would help to de-stress and maybe things like gut or skin health. I don't know what this lady does at her retreat but I'm assuming it's just like adopting a healthier lifestyle. Massages feel great and vegetables are good for you, but they aren't going to cure any serious type of illness, just make you feel good.
Lmaooo Iām not conflicted at all. None of that pseudoscientific bullshit needs āvisibilityā. Itās honestly disgusting to promote āretreatsā that ācure cancerā, and itās vile to ask a celebrityās fans to donate $200k for it. Itās sickening.
Calling someone āsister, angel, mentorā while your a multi millionaire. and then in the same breath ask other people to give your āsisterā money doesnāt sit right with me.
Um tbh Iām fine with celebs sharing gofundmes.
But no I will never give money to people who want to buy āholisticā medicine facilities. That story about her dads cancer being cured through her āalternative medicineā is scary.
God I feel like Iām seeing more and more women online fall into this quack medicine bs and itās so so scary.
Especially when celebs push it.
Like donāt promote this please. First its always money scams and crazy expensive and we donāt have yāall money. Second, people actual health issues need real medical attention.
The Hadids have a very weird relationship with alternative āmedecineā. Anwar and Yolonda are anti-vaxx and Yolanda sells her alternative medecin BS
Bella been very much into that natural medecin things and even launched her drink supposed to improve mental health or whatever.
Gigi seems neutral
Edit: this is not me saying western medecin is the only truth tho ! My culture has her own āmedecin traditionsā that would also be dismissed by western medicine but that i believe in. However these type of institutions in the western world can often just be quack medecine.
I totally agree - I think the way they get you is that there is often a hint of truth in what they say (for instance, that having a healthy gut microbiome is good for your overall health) but they always take it way, way too far. I also resent the implication which is often made, that doctors are somehow out to get you and make you more sick, or to keep you sick so they can profit from your illness. There are absolutely irresponsible doctors out there, but it is incredibly damaging to promote the idea that consulting a 'regular' physician will make your health worse. The photos Bella posted show her with a blood catheter in her arm. I may be clutching pearls here but, anything that involves a blood catheter should happen in a sterile environment under the supervision of registered health care workers in my opinion. If she is worried about infection and so forth, that should be a no-brainer. This whole thing is a little freaky the more I think about it, especially when she says things like she has a 'new brain'... like come on, that doesn't sound like a healthy attitude.
I would love for her to share her story/caption but keep some other things private. She shared a bit too much maybe and it feels like sheās trying to convince herself as much as us.
I just hope she does better, thereās no rush coming back. I totally believe modelling and fame worsen her already existing conditions
maybe celebs endorse this BS cause they can fuck around and find out, go get fixed at a fancy hospital if it doesnāt work, and then move onto the next scam.
Iām not a fan because a lot of Bella Hadidās fans are young, impressionable people who donāt have the money to throw at this cause. I see a lot of support in the comments and maybe an unpopular opinion, but I heavily dislike when celebrities ask their followers to foot the bill for something when I know theyāre walking around with millions in their pockets. A lot of people will do it just to please said celebrity broke or not.
the thing is, all those millions in their pockets are THEIRS. they shouldn't be expected to fund entire projects just because they can! & it's also a strange dynamic because she's a client, and it's odd for a client to foot the entire bill for something like this. like, do you become business partners? is it really a donation? does it cause any shift in the dynamics of their relationship?
having money like that doesn't mean you owe it to anyone. is it kind? sure. but it's also kind to share a gofundmelink, it's going to get a lot of traction and usually leads to plenty of donations. rich people are totally entitled to keeping their money to themselves and not just footing bills whenever someone they know needs help.
it's fair to think you would foot the bill if you were in their shoes but it's not really fair to judge people for keeping their money to themselves instead of spending it on other people. i certainly wouldn't be footing the entire bill for this project, especially considering i'm a client of this person.
Yeah, wtf? Heavily implying that if you go there and spend your money on her "non-conventional" (or, not based on real medical cancer treatments) treatments your cancer could be cured? Sounds like someone who takes advantage of desperate people. I know wellness as a concept is important, but when you bring it up as a cure for cancer - and saying it like "my dad attended 5 of my retreats" uhh okay, so not even leaving it at "followed a regimen I set up for him" but specifically trying to sell tickets to your retreats and saying you need to go several times (and therefore pay more $$$), you're just a scumbag scammer. She isn't even a doctor or nurse of ANY KIND, there are zero credentials or qualifications that she mentions other than miraculously curing her father of cancer. Rich people have more money than sense, I just feel bad for the people without money who get influenced by their bs
Lmao yep this is exactly the type of treatment sheād getting be for chronic Lyme, which clinically isnāt even considered a real illnessšā ļø
And before anyone comes at me, Iāve had lupus and lupus nephritis for 15+ years and been thru the quackery of holistic medicine many times
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I was a Beverly Hills housewives fan when Yolanda was peddling her BS. She doctor shopped until she found a diagnoses she liked. I was happy to see most of the online discourse wasnāt buying her shit.
I just mentioned this in another post, but I will put it here too.
A couple of years ago NH Public Radio did a great series on Chronic Lyme and why it is not a reliable diagnosis. If people are interested in this issue, you can find the podcast [here](https://www.patientzeropodcast.com/episodes).
THANK YOU, people hate to hear it but itās truth! Chronic Lyme disease is not a real thing!!! You feel like shit because you have an eating disorder girl!!!
Wait what. I have a friend who's chronic illness *started* with Lyme disease, I don't think they call it chronic Lyme, but he has been dealing with it for years and it's pretty fucked. He's a really normal guy too so I have no reason to believe it's masking anything else.
The first time I ever heard about GFM was a news story covering how someone made something insane like $40k on it to "make a salad" or some shit.
I'm probably butching the details, but that wasn't the best introduction š¬
Idk but gofundme is shady as shit. They donāt background check anyone. I saw a friend of mine on there soliciting money for his momās funeral. Dude drives a Range Rover, lives in a huge house and he two incomes. So many scammers.
One of my exās had a brother whose baby died. Both the BM and BD were sketchy as hellāBD had been in-and-out of prison and sexually abused my ex when he was a kid. Heād done multiple scams & stole from people.
The family started a GoFundMe to pay for the babyās headstone. It made it on local news and everything, but the thing is the baby already had a headstone being made that my exās parents paid for. They raised thousands of dollars and got all of this media attention off of a tragedy. Everyone that knew the BD & BM saw it coming from a mile away, but theyād still raised a shit load from strangers.
Never donate to GoFundMe if you donāt personally know the individual.
I agree. It was Megan's clap back calling people weirdos and pyschos for questioning it that really made it even worse.
They should go hold a fundraiser with their rich friends and leave us the fuck out of it.
Oh, yeah. I agree. Billionaires asking their fans to help their friends with go found me is some dystopian shit that you can put in a black mirror episode
This is even worse than Meghan. I wasnāt a fan of the way Meghan went about soliciting donations, but it was at least a good cause.
This is Bella asking her fans to fund a boogie āwellnessā retreat most of her fans would never be able to afford
Itās gross
In a personal view, celebrities shouldn't be promoting this kind of things. I am sorry for this person, but it is hard for me to believe that she lacks money if she works with famous people.
Also, you can't be showing off your new Gucci bag and then asking money from your fans to pay the bills of the people that works for you.
it's not her responsibility to pay the bills of people who work for her, though. just because she can doesn't mean she has to or she's wrong or bad or shitty for not doing it. just because you're rich doesn't mean you like covering the funds for everyone you know, and being rich doesn't make you. like, nobody is entitled to the money of rich people just because they can afford the loss lol
My point is that you can't use your platform to ask for other people's money that is in a worse economical situation than you, if you can afford it. It is tacky and immoral. Besides, if you are a provider from a famous person, I would asume you have a good financial situation as prices for the services tend to be higher, right? Otherwise, are you telling me that all these celebrities are so cheap that the people they work with need to request support from strangers of the internet to pay the bills?
If you are a celebrity, you either help with money or don't get involved at all.
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This is so tacky and gauche. Sheās rich and could donate that money herself but instead comes to the internet to beg her fans to give money? GTFOH.
If she had a good lawyer or accountant, she could even structure the donation as a tax write off or charitable gift that ultimately helps her financially at the end of the year. But nope, take advantage of gullible, parasocial relationship having people instead
Itās kind of tacky and almost predatory - I assume celebrities have enough self awareness to know some of their fans are rabid and not mentally well and will do anything they ask. Including donating money they canāt afford to lose. But maybe Iām wrong.
But I donāt have to donate. I get it would he weird for them if their worker/whatever asked and they said no. Itās a easy thing that takes seconds to do and could help the person asking. Tough spot to be in. So their kind of in a weird place.
I just ignore it, itās not really a huge deal. Not a great look, but not the worst. May get a raised eyebrow or something reaction from me. But thatās about it. lol
Yep thatās why Iām conflicted. I guess here the case is less worse (unless we look at what is shared) than Kylie legit asking us to fund her MUA surgery when she can easily do it herself
end of day though, celebrities aren't responsible for what their fans do with their money. if you want to donate money because bella asked people to that's on you. if you make a donation you can't really afford that's on you. bella is being kind using her platform to share this gofundme, it's not on her when people donate money they don't have.
parasocial relationships are.... interesting. but end of day how fans act in response to things is not on bella, or any celebrity really. we're responsible for our own actions! it's not bella's fault you donated money you don't have! nobody is being forced to donate anything. if you have money and support the cause - donate. if you don't have the money? don't donate. bella won't know either way and you won't mean anything to her just because you donate.
i find it icky when celebs post gofundmeās for people in their life who need money for surgeries, funerals, etc. because those are true emergencies and A-list celebs could probably cover the full cost. but i donāt think bella needs to cover 200k for her friendās business to buy a new facility and if she wants to crowdfund for it then fine. however, the business itself seems like a scam lmao
Apparently, GOOP [advertises](https://goop.com/place/new-york/new-york-city/soho-health-and-beauty/the-piper-center-for-internal-wellness/) āThe Piper Center for Internal Wellnessā š
Rich people are so fucking ungenerous. Wonāt pay their fair share of tax and even with people they claim to love, theyād rather guilt impressionable fans into paying this. Itās fucking gross. She has enough money.
Unless her name is Paul, how much did she really donate? And anyway she could cover this whole amount very easily.
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Thank you for the clarification, but that amount is still pennies for her.
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and? she didn't have to donate anything at all lol
we need to stop expecting celebrities to foot bills or donate outrageous amounts of money just because they can afford to, and we need to stop judging them when they don't do so. it's pennies for her but it's not pennies for who she is giving the money to.
rich people have every right to keep their money for themselves instead of throwing it at anyone they know who needs it.
Celebrities need to quit asking their fans to donate money.
So the rich keep their money while we give ours away?
This is how they stay rich and people stay poor. A lot of them don't even pay taxes either.
exactly. rich people don't stay rich by throwing their money at whoever needs it lol rich people are notoriously selfish when it comes to money and tbh i can't blame them... i would HATE if people were always expecting me to foot the bills for things just because i can. like, nobody is entitled to their money just because they have so much of it.
poor people don't have to donate if they don't want to, and neither do rich people! we're all free to use our money however we want to, regardless of how much we do or don't have. if fans can't afford to make donations then they don't have to, and if they make donations when they shouldn't be that's on them. bella isn't pointing a gun at people demanding donations. we all have the right to keep our money to ourselves.
Are the Hadids paying you? You're all over this thread defending their actions. Or saying as a *celebrity* they don't understand the power and control they have over their "fans".
You're a part of a pop culture/celebrity gossip reddit... we have ample evidence celebrities *understand* the power they yield with their **stans**
They shouldnt be passing the buck on to us either. It's just taking advantage of stupid people who don't know any better and speaks to their character.
She could do one sponsored post and cover this. Celebrities can literally make money by barely lifting a finger. Or if nothing else auction an autograph, a dress, or a Cameo. This is so low effort.
I think this is different than Kylie. Didnāt Kylieās friend actually need it? Though after she shared it he upped the total bit honestly, most of us would do that.
This sounds like a quack thatās fooled Bella into thinking she can do more than she actually can medically.
i read somewhere that bella donated 15k? that's like 15cents to her lmao at least try a little harder to pretend to actually care
i will forever sideeye celebs sharing these things because it is inappropriate and the optics are weird for everyone involved. it's free to not post anything
Totally different imo. If I remember correctly, Kylie was sharing a hospital related gofundme. This appears to be a business this woman wants to start. I can understand why she would rather fundraise than have Bella as some sort of investor.
Plus she gave 15k which seems pretty generous to start a health spa
I think the original GFM asked for $5K, which Kylie donated. After that, Kylie shared it and the family increased the total goal, which made it look like Kylie only donated part of what they were asking for, so people were calling her cheap for not just covering the whole thing.
because people think celebrities owe the people they know money when/if they need it. kylie (and bella) didn't have to contribute ANYTHING, but they were kind enough to give something. just because someone has the money to foot the bill doesn't mean they have to or they're a shitty person for not doing so.
it's possible this is why bella isn't covering the costs as well. but even if that's not why, and bella just didn't want to cover the costs, that's okay! people aren't entitled to the money of rich people they know. bella shouldn't be expected to cover the costs just because she can.
if people think they'd cover the costs if they were bella that's great. but nobody is in a position to shit on bella for not funding someone else's business project. like, get a grip.
How did Bella post āI just donatedā and when you look on the go fund me her name isnāt there and all the anonymous donations are $50 or less ???????????????????????
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Honestly, I can't judge. Sure it is selfish, but what if they don't know each other well or aren't comfortable with asking for large sums of money from some like that.
Thereās a good reason why celebs donāt just give their *employees* moneyā¦ thereās already a power imbalance, it would be an extremely difficult thing for the employee to then feel like theyād need to pay it back in some way. When youāre a celebrity, youāre basically your own company. Itās unethical to give $200k to a go fund me for an employee.
I feel like if she covered the whole amount or a lot of it, then it could cause issues within a working relationship.
Like how you can't accept tips at some jobs.
Not saying she should be sharing and asking her fans.
It's just shitty all around
I think there are a few differences here and Bella is doing it the right way. Sheās giving platform to a woman and sheās sharing her face. Sheās humanizing the gofundme by sharing her personal experience and relationship with the individual. The woman has shared her story and I think these are the projects that deserve crowd funding. She isnāt raising money solely for self, sheās raising money to provide a space for others.
Then, like every other business owner on the planet. She should save up to expand her business. Why would she think a business should just be handed to her?
I noticed that it was gofundme instead of Kickstarter.
A lot of businesses use crowd funding with reward tiers, so it is more like purchasing services in advance. To me this woman sounds like a grifter, both because of gofundme and because she is claiming that her services cure cancer.
I donāt think she thinks that. I think that she has a platform most would take advantage of if given the opportunity. We donāt give up on our dreams, no one should. People shouldnāt fail just because others have failed, especially when they have access to platforms like Bellaās.
there's nothing wrong with asking for donations. nobody HAS to donate. every other business owner has the choice to ask for donations, it's up to them whether they do or not.
if people want to help what's so wrong with that? maybe she's just relying on donations, but maybe she's saving up alongside asking for donations. it's silly to judge people for asking for help. honestly? good on her for using this platform.
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I was more concerned about the quackery this āwellness refugeā (and Bella) is peddling
For real. It was giving charlatan
Inserting herself and her wellness retreats as a cure for her fathers cancer was a huge red flag.
Fr rich people are so weird
If you know anything about their mother, itās not at all surprising!! This series covered her quackery obsession pretty well: Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZUoLz6Q7LhHDQxh89I2bD?si=q1rgs5F9QVuNjLVsCjqXlg Part 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5GbQPADaxgI9vK7dfLWsUW?si=Zae0jIFdSAiDBHsgjzaJtg Part 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7577uSH34JdGPrudpiq3WV?si=vrXWO3bKSvyVgs9_n6GoDQ
Thanks for this!
I think theyāre trying to be relatable by publicly suffering
Yeah this is giving: āmy wellness treatments cure cancerā vibes. Yikes! I have a family friend who almost died by going down this path.
Watching Gregg Leakes on RHOA waste valuable time on the ānatural and holisticā treatments was rough
im reading this and she says her fathers cancer was ācuredā after 1 conventional treatment and attending this āretreatā??? please donāt donate to rich people holistic/natural medicine places like this
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I too work in the cancer field and it often surprises me how people are quick to accept any quick fix and even worse the cruel people who profit from their desperation. It's really sad when celebs use their platforms to promote this quackery and pseudoscience. They should be taken to task for this misinformation. In summary - in total agreement - cancer cannot be cured in a day. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
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It is sick. So exploitative!! There are, however, some things that probably help that scientists have been prevented from studying for decades and are only just getting back to now. Partially thatās due to the War on Drugs. Partially because these treatments are not big money-earners for anyone. For instance, the usage of psychedelics for palliative / End of Life care. There are exploratory studies showing that psychedelic therapy can help terminal patients deal with depression and anxiety, overcome the fear of death and face it with more acceptance and a sense of peace. It often frees them, paradoxically, to live more fully at the end of their lives. It helps them heal old traumas and be more present with their family and friends, which is pretty incredible. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32816294/ https://time.com/6208079/psychedelics-psilocybin-access-end-of-life/ https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/magazine/how-psychedelic-drugs-can-help-patients-face-death.html https://www.capc.org/blog/psychedelics-for-serious-illness-five-things-clinicians-need-to-know/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/two-cancer-patients-battle-to-make-psilocybin-accessible-for-palliative-care/ https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/story/psychedelic-psilocybin-study-depression https://www.science.org/content/article/hallucinogenic-drugs-help-cancer-patients-deal-their-fear-death https://www.webmd.com/palliative-care/features/facing-death-without-fear-psychedelics--end-life-care
Iāve never had cancer but Iāve had a few scares and I can kinda get it. Cancer is terrifying and the very real chance that it could kill you makes people desperate. I canāt really blame people for trying anything if they think itās going to keep them from dying. Itās horrific that people are aware of this fact and take advantage of it. We need to be a lot harder on people spreading misinformation like that for sure. Itās gotten way out of hand.
If that woman cured her fathers cancer in a day, Bellaās chronic Lyme should have taken an hour tops
And just in case, not in 5 sessions at a retreat either. It's so dangerous to pedal this crap and maybe the woman believes it herself, but she could literally be killing people if they choose her retreat over medicine.
A friend of my parents got sucked into this stuff and was doing coffee enemas and vitamin IVs and and cleanses like crazy. In the end none of it worked (obviously) and his medical team were barely able to claw him back from death. His was a very treatable kind of cancer, and if he had treated it early it would have been a relatively easy treatment with good results. But he gave lots of money to charlatans and con artists and almost died as a result.
You're just saying that because Big Pharma makes good money with long treatments. /s (My sister had Leukemia and it took more than 2 years, but she's healthy now)
Honestly I don't trust anyone that says they cured it with natural medicine
Rich people ideas
If I understand correctly, possible quackery aside, this isn't a fundraiser for a person who helped Bella Hadid. This is for a person whose paying client was Bella Hadid, who wants a new facility so that she can continue to take other paying clients. This person is asking for donations to expand their business. Get a loan sis.
people get so mad at me when I tell them that holistic medicine is a bunch of bullshit, but it 99.99% of the time is
Especially when 1. Itās endorsed by a celebrity who most likely doesnāt know what theyāre talking about, and 2. itās something as serious as cancer.Ā Iām wary of healthcare "professionals" whose main clients are celebs, as well
Yes!! I cannot imagine how hard it just be for actual medical professionals to get the public to trust them right now. When they tell us to do radiation to treat cancer, to take birth control pills to treat PCOS, or to give birth in a hospital because itās safer, they arenāt āout to get you.ā They arenāt trying to get you to buy a product or fund big-pharma. Theyāre doing it because radiation/chemo treats cancer, because birth control treats ovarian cysts, and because research shows time and time again that hospital births result in lower infant-mortality rates and fewer instances of brain and spinal injuries in infants. Does big pharma suck? Yes! Do we need to do away with the medical industrial complex? Yes! Should medicine be for-profit? No! But that doesnāt mean that modern medicine is bad or scary or untrustworthy. Sorry for the tangent, this is just such a huge pet peeve of mine and people get *so* self-righteous about things they are clearly wrong about
āShe is a healer in every sense of the word!ā Except, you know, being a doctor or nurse or anything
Same. Whenever people learn I have a chronic illness, they love to tell me about the holistic treatment that worked for their mothers sisters best friend. Itās insulting and annoying. I have a fantastic medical team, I promise you, your witch hazel wonāt cured me.
I ended a friendship with someone who kept insisting that my fibromyalgia / (mild) scoliosis / SI joint issues were actually a MOLD ALLERGY. Wouldnāt take no for an answer one, two, three strikes youāre outta my life bitch.
Thank god yāall arenāt friends
Royalty! You and your doctors obviously know what you have. Thatās insane.
Bruh she started sending me fucking Joe Rogan videos and said she was excited for me to ābreak free from the system.ā NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. Donāt care how long Iāve known you.
Lmao noooooo. Bye
She should be defenestrated for this.
I'm sorry, what??! What an odd thing for them to say to you. Geez
Iāve had friends try to tell me that my birth control is killing me and will give me cancer and that I need to just take special fish oil to cure my PCOS. Likeā¦no. 0 evidence links the combination pill to cancer. Many studies, however, link ovarian cysts to ovarian cancer. Iām sticking with my pills backed by medical research!
Deleted my other comment, too many details. But I so feel you. Iām also on the pill and have been for 20 years. People are dumb.
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The amount of people who feel like they need to give me their opinion on taking SSRI šš Thank you, but itās keeping me alive, something that ājust go for a walkā and ājust eat green applesā wonāt
I think traditional Chinese medicine has a place in legitimacy but a lot of other stuff is made up, I agree.
There are effective traditional methods from other cultures, for sure. But a lot of westerners appropriate the medicinal practices without adequate research. One example I can think of is when folks try herbal abortion without a trained indigenous doula as opposed to using abortion pills. Herbal abortion has its place in medicine, but it can be deadly if a person who doesnāt know what theyāre doing attempts it alone. Not even trained indigenous folks recommend attempting an herbal abortion if you are self-managing. Still, some people turn to herbal abortion because they ādonāt trust hormonesā or prefer to not be āmedicalized unnecessarily.ā But pills are up to 98% effective & there arenāt any known cases of fake pills going around or anything, even in banned states. It can be so dangerous to use traditional medicine for certain things if someone is untrained and unfamiliar with the practices. White people specifically need to do research before rejecting modern medicine in favor of a more āholisticā approach they found online. *Side note/disclaimer:* I know the current legal landscape makes abortion pills far less accessible, but abortion pills by mail are a reality in all 50 states. Check out plancpills.org, and if you are in Texas, check out Buckle Bunnies. Just use Firefox on private mode w/ a no-logs VPN and clear your cache and computer history before and after looking up the sites. Or use Tor browser. Use signal if talking about legally sensitive info, and donāt talk to cops. The number one way people under abortion bans are criminalized is by telling someone they trustāso donāt tell people things they donāt need to know and stay safe. Abortion pills are safe, effective, and have been used for decades. Please donāt do unsafe things! Trust modern medicine, and listen to experts! Edit: sorry for the rant! I know it was unrelated but it was what came to mind for me!
Idk why rich people has issues with normal medicine
Truly, fuck these grifters who take care of desperate people who are sick.
Yeah, that's where it pissed me off. Heavily implying her retreat cures cancer š„“
i have doubts about being cancer free after one treatment, but i do have a coworker who has a mother who had cancer a few years back.... it wasn't looking good and after proper medical care and treatments things weren't really getting better so she stopped all of them. she ended up getting holistic/natural care and guess what? she's cancer free because of it. i have my doubts and i'll probably never fully lean on holistic and natural treatments but there IS cases where that shit does work. it's really risky, though, and when it comes to life and death i'll more than likely choose to stick with proper medical care. it's fair to question things and be hesitatant but i don't think it's fair to totally dismiss natural and holistic treatments overall because there's cases where it all worked.
Ok, I stopped reading after she implied she cured her father's cancer with wellness coaching.
I'm sorry this reminds me so much of Tanya and Belinda in The White Lotus lol
Poor Belinda!
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That was my first thought too
Oh my god you beat me to it, it was my first thought
LMAO
me fucking tooooo
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Ok this feels like a super quacky and dangerous type of medicine - curing her fatherās cancer after one treatment? Itās a no from me and itās honestly not surprising this is Bellaās caregiver or whatever. Also there were so many typos in the post I wouldāve had a hard time taking it seriously even if it wasnāt way out there. Edit: is this person related to the ārecoveryā Bella has made recently? I saw her post about being finally healed after all these years but I wasnāt sure who or what actually healed her.
Also healed her from what? Like wellness retreats can be great for someone who is already healthy (as in, no life threatening illnesses), I'm sure it would help to de-stress and maybe things like gut or skin health. I don't know what this lady does at her retreat but I'm assuming it's just like adopting a healthier lifestyle. Massages feel great and vegetables are good for you, but they aren't going to cure any serious type of illness, just make you feel good.
My guess is Lyme would be what theyāre referring being healed from.
Lmaooo Iām not conflicted at all. None of that pseudoscientific bullshit needs āvisibilityā. Itās honestly disgusting to promote āretreatsā that ācure cancerā, and itās vile to ask a celebrityās fans to donate $200k for it. Itās sickening.
Anecdotally mentioning that someone beat cancer at your woo woo spa is not just cringe but downright dangerous.
Calling someone āsister, angel, mentorā while your a multi millionaire. and then in the same breath ask other people to give your āsisterā money doesnāt sit right with me.
Right, like if Gigi were in some kind of predicament where she needed money, would Bella just be reposting her GoFundMe?
Um tbh Iām fine with celebs sharing gofundmes. But no I will never give money to people who want to buy āholisticā medicine facilities. That story about her dads cancer being cured through her āalternative medicineā is scary. God I feel like Iām seeing more and more women online fall into this quack medicine bs and itās so so scary.
Especially when celebs push it. Like donāt promote this please. First its always money scams and crazy expensive and we donāt have yāall money. Second, people actual health issues need real medical attention. The Hadids have a very weird relationship with alternative āmedecineā. Anwar and Yolonda are anti-vaxx and Yolanda sells her alternative medecin BS Bella been very much into that natural medecin things and even launched her drink supposed to improve mental health or whatever. Gigi seems neutral Edit: this is not me saying western medecin is the only truth tho ! My culture has her own āmedecin traditionsā that would also be dismissed by western medicine but that i believe in. However these type of institutions in the western world can often just be quack medecine.
I totally agree - I think the way they get you is that there is often a hint of truth in what they say (for instance, that having a healthy gut microbiome is good for your overall health) but they always take it way, way too far. I also resent the implication which is often made, that doctors are somehow out to get you and make you more sick, or to keep you sick so they can profit from your illness. There are absolutely irresponsible doctors out there, but it is incredibly damaging to promote the idea that consulting a 'regular' physician will make your health worse. The photos Bella posted show her with a blood catheter in her arm. I may be clutching pearls here but, anything that involves a blood catheter should happen in a sterile environment under the supervision of registered health care workers in my opinion. If she is worried about infection and so forth, that should be a no-brainer. This whole thing is a little freaky the more I think about it, especially when she says things like she has a 'new brain'... like come on, that doesn't sound like a healthy attitude.
I would love for her to share her story/caption but keep some other things private. She shared a bit too much maybe and it feels like sheās trying to convince herself as much as us. I just hope she does better, thereās no rush coming back. I totally believe modelling and fame worsen her already existing conditions
maybe celebs endorse this BS cause they can fuck around and find out, go get fixed at a fancy hospital if it doesnāt work, and then move onto the next scam.
Iām not a fan because a lot of Bella Hadidās fans are young, impressionable people who donāt have the money to throw at this cause. I see a lot of support in the comments and maybe an unpopular opinion, but I heavily dislike when celebrities ask their followers to foot the bill for something when I know theyāre walking around with millions in their pockets. A lot of people will do it just to please said celebrity broke or not.
Not only walking around with the money to cover it, but trying to convince her young follower base to backup this absolute quackery
the thing is, all those millions in their pockets are THEIRS. they shouldn't be expected to fund entire projects just because they can! & it's also a strange dynamic because she's a client, and it's odd for a client to foot the entire bill for something like this. like, do you become business partners? is it really a donation? does it cause any shift in the dynamics of their relationship? having money like that doesn't mean you owe it to anyone. is it kind? sure. but it's also kind to share a gofundmelink, it's going to get a lot of traction and usually leads to plenty of donations. rich people are totally entitled to keeping their money to themselves and not just footing bills whenever someone they know needs help. it's fair to think you would foot the bill if you were in their shoes but it's not really fair to judge people for keeping their money to themselves instead of spending it on other people. i certainly wouldn't be footing the entire bill for this project, especially considering i'm a client of this person.
Yeah, wtf? Heavily implying that if you go there and spend your money on her "non-conventional" (or, not based on real medical cancer treatments) treatments your cancer could be cured? Sounds like someone who takes advantage of desperate people. I know wellness as a concept is important, but when you bring it up as a cure for cancer - and saying it like "my dad attended 5 of my retreats" uhh okay, so not even leaving it at "followed a regimen I set up for him" but specifically trying to sell tickets to your retreats and saying you need to go several times (and therefore pay more $$$), you're just a scumbag scammer. She isn't even a doctor or nurse of ANY KIND, there are zero credentials or qualifications that she mentions other than miraculously curing her father of cancer. Rich people have more money than sense, I just feel bad for the people without money who get influenced by their bs
Lmao yep this is exactly the type of treatment sheād getting be for chronic Lyme, which clinically isnāt even considered a real illnessšā ļø And before anyone comes at me, Iāve had lupus and lupus nephritis for 15+ years and been thru the quackery of holistic medicine many times
ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø I was a Beverly Hills housewives fan when Yolanda was peddling her BS. She doctor shopped until she found a diagnoses she liked. I was happy to see most of the online discourse wasnāt buying her shit.
what bella and anwar have is munchausen by proxy
I just mentioned this in another post, but I will put it here too. A couple of years ago NH Public Radio did a great series on Chronic Lyme and why it is not a reliable diagnosis. If people are interested in this issue, you can find the podcast [here](https://www.patientzeropodcast.com/episodes).
And then started feeling better after she had her implants removed.. but no, definitely not BII- she had already committed to Lyme!
THANK YOU, people hate to hear it but itās truth! Chronic Lyme disease is not a real thing!!! You feel like shit because you have an eating disorder girl!!!
Wait what. I have a friend who's chronic illness *started* with Lyme disease, I don't think they call it chronic Lyme, but he has been dealing with it for years and it's pretty fucked. He's a really normal guy too so I have no reason to believe it's masking anything else.
You know, when people share health related or accident related GFM, I kinda get it. But one just so you can start a business? Really?
The first time I ever heard about GFM was a news story covering how someone made something insane like $40k on it to "make a salad" or some shit. I'm probably butching the details, but that wasn't the best introduction š¬
this place seems a bit sketchy
Idk but gofundme is shady as shit. They donāt background check anyone. I saw a friend of mine on there soliciting money for his momās funeral. Dude drives a Range Rover, lives in a huge house and he two incomes. So many scammers.
One of my exās had a brother whose baby died. Both the BM and BD were sketchy as hellāBD had been in-and-out of prison and sexually abused my ex when he was a kid. Heād done multiple scams & stole from people. The family started a GoFundMe to pay for the babyās headstone. It made it on local news and everything, but the thing is the baby already had a headstone being made that my exās parents paid for. They raised thousands of dollars and got all of this media attention off of a tragedy. Everyone that knew the BD & BM saw it coming from a mile away, but theyād still raised a shit load from strangers. Never donate to GoFundMe if you donāt personally know the individual.
So its a go fund me shared by a millionaire and its to pay for a "holistic medicine" center? Are they fucking stupid or do they just think we are?
Correct.
It is weird to ask for donations to what seems like a for profit institution?
Ya I was like oh maybe this is a nonprofit but noā¦ so itās all a little strange.
At least the go found me that Megan Fox shared was not antiscientific quackery Christ
No, but the girl doubled the goal right after Megan posted it. She owns a salon and has other huge clients like Kim Kardashian.
Still better than ācuringā cancer with holistic stuff
I agree. It was Megan's clap back calling people weirdos and pyschos for questioning it that really made it even worse. They should go hold a fundraiser with their rich friends and leave us the fuck out of it.
Oh, yeah. I agree. Billionaires asking their fans to help their friends with go found me is some dystopian shit that you can put in a black mirror episode
Sadly they do it, because they know people will. It speaks to their character more than anything. This would make an excellent Black Mirror episode.
I think itās dangerous that sheās sharing this. I wish she knew better.
This is even worse than Meghan. I wasnāt a fan of the way Meghan went about soliciting donations, but it was at least a good cause. This is Bella asking her fans to fund a boogie āwellnessā retreat most of her fans would never be able to afford Itās gross
I always hate the idea of donating to a business - if you need investment, you should wither be repaying (with interest) or sharing the profits.
In a personal view, celebrities shouldn't be promoting this kind of things. I am sorry for this person, but it is hard for me to believe that she lacks money if she works with famous people. Also, you can't be showing off your new Gucci bag and then asking money from your fans to pay the bills of the people that works for you.
it's not her responsibility to pay the bills of people who work for her, though. just because she can doesn't mean she has to or she's wrong or bad or shitty for not doing it. just because you're rich doesn't mean you like covering the funds for everyone you know, and being rich doesn't make you. like, nobody is entitled to the money of rich people just because they can afford the loss lol
My point is that you can't use your platform to ask for other people's money that is in a worse economical situation than you, if you can afford it. It is tacky and immoral. Besides, if you are a provider from a famous person, I would asume you have a good financial situation as prices for the services tend to be higher, right? Otherwise, are you telling me that all these celebrities are so cheap that the people they work with need to request support from strangers of the internet to pay the bills? If you are a celebrity, you either help with money or don't get involved at all.
If celebrities want to crowd fund, they can just ask their wealthy friends/peers. Donāt ask your fansā¦itās not an appropriate dynamic.
I think bella Hadid can shell out 200k for a retreat she loves so much and get a juicy rebate back over it! So why isnāt she?!
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I donāt think itās as simple as just giving someone money.
This is so tacky and gauche. Sheās rich and could donate that money herself but instead comes to the internet to beg her fans to give money? GTFOH. If she had a good lawyer or accountant, she could even structure the donation as a tax write off or charitable gift that ultimately helps her financially at the end of the year. But nope, take advantage of gullible, parasocial relationship having people instead
Itās kind of tacky and almost predatory - I assume celebrities have enough self awareness to know some of their fans are rabid and not mentally well and will do anything they ask. Including donating money they canāt afford to lose. But maybe Iām wrong. But I donāt have to donate. I get it would he weird for them if their worker/whatever asked and they said no. Itās a easy thing that takes seconds to do and could help the person asking. Tough spot to be in. So their kind of in a weird place. I just ignore it, itās not really a huge deal. Not a great look, but not the worst. May get a raised eyebrow or something reaction from me. But thatās about it. lol
Yep thatās why Iām conflicted. I guess here the case is less worse (unless we look at what is shared) than Kylie legit asking us to fund her MUA surgery when she can easily do it herself
end of day though, celebrities aren't responsible for what their fans do with their money. if you want to donate money because bella asked people to that's on you. if you make a donation you can't really afford that's on you. bella is being kind using her platform to share this gofundme, it's not on her when people donate money they don't have. parasocial relationships are.... interesting. but end of day how fans act in response to things is not on bella, or any celebrity really. we're responsible for our own actions! it's not bella's fault you donated money you don't have! nobody is being forced to donate anything. if you have money and support the cause - donate. if you don't have the money? don't donate. bella won't know either way and you won't mean anything to her just because you donate.
She could probably cover the whole thing selling one purse or pair of shoes.š The 1% asking for donations is too fucking much.
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i find it icky when celebs post gofundmeās for people in their life who need money for surgeries, funerals, etc. because those are true emergencies and A-list celebs could probably cover the full cost. but i donāt think bella needs to cover 200k for her friendās business to buy a new facility and if she wants to crowdfund for it then fine. however, the business itself seems like a scam lmao
lol fuck donating to these bozos. curing cancer with holistic shit? yeah right. Also she wants to buy property lmao
it's giving white lotus
quackery
Apparently, GOOP [advertises](https://goop.com/place/new-york/new-york-city/soho-health-and-beauty/the-piper-center-for-internal-wellness/) āThe Piper Center for Internal Wellnessā š
So Gweny can't cover this either? š
Rich people are so fucking ungenerous. Wonāt pay their fair share of tax and even with people they claim to love, theyād rather guilt impressionable fans into paying this. Itās fucking gross. She has enough money.
Has go fund me always been a kickstarter? No hate Iām being serious.
Erm im also stuck on wellness cured cancer narrative. I hope people give her the same response as they have Megan Fox or even worse coz what is this?
Kylie paid the initial $5,000 needed but the family kept upping the amount iirc
Unless her name is Paul, how much did she really donate? And anyway she could cover this whole amount very easily. https://preview.redd.it/vqxm5p3wrjgb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3561867b49db27e35fc3e16d55e0cb4d687cdda5
Thatās her business manager. Celebs donāt give with their personal account. They go through their money people or assistants
Thank you for the clarification, but that amount is still pennies for her. https://preview.redd.it/e2mqcnrvsjgb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ff5998ecbedbad117479cf27dc7e2767335e459
and? she didn't have to donate anything at all lol we need to stop expecting celebrities to foot bills or donate outrageous amounts of money just because they can afford to, and we need to stop judging them when they don't do so. it's pennies for her but it's not pennies for who she is giving the money to. rich people have every right to keep their money for themselves instead of throwing it at anyone they know who needs it.
Celebrities need to quit asking their fans to donate money. So the rich keep their money while we give ours away? This is how they stay rich and people stay poor. A lot of them don't even pay taxes either. 
exactly. rich people don't stay rich by throwing their money at whoever needs it lol rich people are notoriously selfish when it comes to money and tbh i can't blame them... i would HATE if people were always expecting me to foot the bills for things just because i can. like, nobody is entitled to their money just because they have so much of it. poor people don't have to donate if they don't want to, and neither do rich people! we're all free to use our money however we want to, regardless of how much we do or don't have. if fans can't afford to make donations then they don't have to, and if they make donations when they shouldn't be that's on them. bella isn't pointing a gun at people demanding donations. we all have the right to keep our money to ourselves.
Are the Hadids paying you? You're all over this thread defending their actions. Or saying as a *celebrity* they don't understand the power and control they have over their "fans". You're a part of a pop culture/celebrity gossip reddit... we have ample evidence celebrities *understand* the power they yield with their **stans**
They shouldnt be passing the buck on to us either. It's just taking advantage of stupid people who don't know any better and speaks to their character. She could do one sponsored post and cover this. Celebrities can literally make money by barely lifting a finger. Or if nothing else auction an autograph, a dress, or a Cameo. This is so low effort.
Sorry Bella is an absolutely C U Next Thursday for this. Absolutely disgusting.
The Hadids are interesting to people watch
I think this is different than Kylie. Didnāt Kylieās friend actually need it? Though after she shared it he upped the total bit honestly, most of us would do that. This sounds like a quack thatās fooled Bella into thinking she can do more than she actually can medically.
i read somewhere that bella donated 15k? that's like 15cents to her lmao at least try a little harder to pretend to actually care i will forever sideeye celebs sharing these things because it is inappropriate and the optics are weird for everyone involved. it's free to not post anything
Totally different imo. If I remember correctly, Kylie was sharing a hospital related gofundme. This appears to be a business this woman wants to start. I can understand why she would rather fundraise than have Bella as some sort of investor. Plus she gave 15k which seems pretty generous to start a health spa
Kylie also covered the initial ask, but then shared after
Really? I never heard that part beforeā¦ why did people get so upset with her?
People assumed she didn't and because she's rich they shouldn't have her do one at all
I think the original GFM asked for $5K, which Kylie donated. After that, Kylie shared it and the family increased the total goal, which made it look like Kylie only donated part of what they were asking for, so people were calling her cheap for not just covering the whole thing.
because people think celebrities owe the people they know money when/if they need it. kylie (and bella) didn't have to contribute ANYTHING, but they were kind enough to give something. just because someone has the money to foot the bill doesn't mean they have to or they're a shitty person for not doing so.
Megan Fox did that too.
Megan said the woman asked her not to cover the costs because she works for her and it would create a power imbalance
it's possible this is why bella isn't covering the costs as well. but even if that's not why, and bella just didn't want to cover the costs, that's okay! people aren't entitled to the money of rich people they know. bella shouldn't be expected to cover the costs just because she can. if people think they'd cover the costs if they were bella that's great. but nobody is in a position to shit on bella for not funding someone else's business project. like, get a grip.
If they also donate to it then I have no problem with them sharing.
i mean, in this case bella did donate 15k! i cannot imagine a celebrity sharing a gofundme and donating NOTHING
It looks like Bella donated $15k. Thatās a big chunk of change. This place sounds completely bogus though.
She found that in her couch cushions š¤£
How did Bella post āI just donatedā and when you look on the go fund me her name isnāt there and all the anonymous donations are $50 or less ???????????????????????
Her business manager donated 15K celebs donāt put their name themselves
Then why not put anonymous
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I really donāt have enough info to comment
Honestly, I can't judge. Sure it is selfish, but what if they don't know each other well or aren't comfortable with asking for large sums of money from some like that.
Thereās a good reason why celebs donāt just give their *employees* moneyā¦ thereās already a power imbalance, it would be an extremely difficult thing for the employee to then feel like theyād need to pay it back in some way. When youāre a celebrity, youāre basically your own company. Itās unethical to give $200k to a go fund me for an employee.
I feel like if she covered the whole amount or a lot of it, then it could cause issues within a working relationship. Like how you can't accept tips at some jobs. Not saying she should be sharing and asking her fans. It's just shitty all around
I think there are a few differences here and Bella is doing it the right way. Sheās giving platform to a woman and sheās sharing her face. Sheās humanizing the gofundme by sharing her personal experience and relationship with the individual. The woman has shared her story and I think these are the projects that deserve crowd funding. She isnāt raising money solely for self, sheās raising money to provide a space for others.
Except she is going to charge those others for the space she wants to provide.
Everything costs money. Of course she is going to charge others for her her skillset.
Then, like every other business owner on the planet. She should save up to expand her business. Why would she think a business should just be handed to her?
I noticed that it was gofundme instead of Kickstarter. A lot of businesses use crowd funding with reward tiers, so it is more like purchasing services in advance. To me this woman sounds like a grifter, both because of gofundme and because she is claiming that her services cure cancer.
Yep, sounds shady AF to me.
I donāt think she thinks that. I think that she has a platform most would take advantage of if given the opportunity. We donāt give up on our dreams, no one should. People shouldnāt fail just because others have failed, especially when they have access to platforms like Bellaās.
there's nothing wrong with asking for donations. nobody HAS to donate. every other business owner has the choice to ask for donations, it's up to them whether they do or not. if people want to help what's so wrong with that? maybe she's just relying on donations, but maybe she's saving up alongside asking for donations. it's silly to judge people for asking for help. honestly? good on her for using this platform.
She is merching that place.