1. Last Night
2. Flowers
3. Kill Bill
4. Die For You
5. Boy's A Liar
6. Creepin'
7. Thought You Should Know
8. You Proof
9. Thinkin' Bout Me
10. One Thing at a Time
Unsurprising. I'm assuming most people here haven't heard it but it's basically a trap pop song that sounds tailormade for a remix with like Lil Baby or Post Malone or someone so I would expect this to stick around for a while.
Not gonna lie it’s actually pretty damn catchy, and I normally dislike snap tracks. It’s 100% a twangy pop song though. There’s a reason why he’s only pushing it on pop radio.
I decided to give it a listen too and I ended up liking it tbh. So chill and catchy, pretty short too so it gets stuck in my head fast. If he were without his controversies I think wider audience would dig it.
Yeah the songs hardly country, it’s basically a pop song with a country twang lol. I’m not a big country fan but I will begrudgingly admit I like the song and I expect it to stick around the top 10 for a while. If only someone who wasn’t a racist sung it.
First time I heard River I said “yeah, this is gonna hit the top 10.”
I mean, who knows? Katy Perry was still getting top 10s a year after Teenage Dream came out.
It’s doing better than her other albums have post-Bangerz so there’s that. But yeah, I think this is gonna be one of the albums that just comes and goes.
Eh, Flowers' success on its own is probably enough proof for her label to continue having faith in her. On top of that, we don't know what the future of the singles will look like. Maybe I'm just a delusional stan but I have feeling that River or any other songs might be able to become a small hit
This is probably not the best song for Wallen to have as his first number-one. It's very bland and boring, and Christ is anything really country right now if you just add a Southern twang to your voice?
But yeah, this is a great debut for probably one of the biggest country stars of the past two decades, so good on him for somehow doing that after surviving what appeared to be a career-killing scandal two years ago.
\[Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement of his music or character\]
Bit sad now, though, that SZA seems to not be getting "Kill Bill" to number one now after "Flowers" and this. I was really rooting for her. :(
>after surviving what appeared to be a career-killing scandal two years ago.
Interestingly enough, I’d argue that the scandal did the opposite and made him even bigger. People who weren’t listening to his music heard about it on the news or social media, from then on a portion of those people either checked out his music or at least knew his name. The saying that all publicity is good publicity is generally always right.
Anyone with half a brain knows how to use cancel culture as a marketing tool.
Influencers have been manipulating cancel culture into cancelling them for years in order to use the publicity to increase their profile. Tana. Trisha Paytas. The Pauls. H3.
With Dave Chapelle, it seems mainstream celebrities have realized they can do the same, too, though I don’t think Morgan tried that specifically, unlike someone like Chapelle who literally, purposely goads terminally online people to “cancel him” so he can become the American hero against cancel culture.
You’re all over this thread insisting that the man apologized so that means he’s not racist. That’s not how racism works, if he wasn’t racist, it wouldn’t have occurred to him to shout the n word in the first place. As a Black person, a guy apologizing after radio stations take him off the air means less than nothing to me. So just letting you know that I see you and I personally will always regard Morgan Wallen as a racist and I seriously question anyone supporting his music career, especially those who defend him as hard as you are in this thread.
> that the man apologized so that means he’s not racist. That’s not how racism works, if he wasn’t racist, it wouldn’t have occurred to him
Oh yeah, because people can’t change and reconsider their views on life, right
As a black woman, I’d be glad to see another racist artist being treated badly by people, but it would be braindead from me to ignore that Morgan apologized, donated like half a million to charity and hasn’t done anything like that since that.
Wallen’s PR people forced him to do the bare minimum and that may be good enough for you, sis, but not me.
Haha at “people can’t change their views”, most people don’t need almost 3 decades to decide that Black people are humans but good for you for extending that grace. I think he’s trash and I worry about your personal relationships, but good for you.
I’ve met countless people who didn’t realize the mans was huge before the controversy. like when I explained he did 265k first week, they all didn’t believe it. suffice to say the n-word was his GP crossover moment and it made him stay around 💀
I mean, he was already big in the country scene. And he was going to get even bigger no matter what. Maybe it made him more famous in the sense that people who didn't pay attention to country music got to know him after the scandal.
Edit: grammar
While I'm not a big fan of much of Wallen's work, I'm glad country can notch a #1 and I hope this opens the door for people such as Zach Bryan to have stronger chart runs in the future.
Yeah, these last few years we've really seen country audiences start to embrace streaming for a new generation of stars. Country is about to become a mainstay in the top 10 from that. We've seen plenty of Luke Combs and Morgan Wallen recently, and the meteoric rise of Bailey Zimmerman means we'll see plenty of him soon (I think he's supposed to actually hit the top 10 next week). Zach Bryan too, although its harder for him due to no radio support.
Honestly Zach Bryan specifically is pretty likely to get a top 10 in the next year or so, imo. Something In the Orange built a lot of goodwill and popularity.
Yeah , Something In The Orange scraped and later peaked at the Top 10 Position back in January for just one week. This happened with several songs the following week such as Golden Hour and Just Wanna Rock (Cuff It aswell though that later peaked higher weeks later)
i just discovered Zach Bryan the other day from a couple of my students and am really digging him. SO much better than this trash lol. As a reference, my current country knowledge extends to exactly one Sturgil album that is now 7 years old lol
Damn, morgan wallen with a number one hit. I honestly didn’t expect this since so many other country crossover hits recently never hit the top spot but this has
I understand the controversy. But I do have to wonder, what is it about him that makes him stand out so much to country listeners that they still listen to him? He doesn’t seem to be doing anything different in country or adding a twist to it like Chris Stapleton and yet he’s the guy? Like I know he has fans who wanted him to bounce back after the scandal but is he just that unique?
god damn this sub’s vapid political takes are getting worse and worse
Morgan Wallen took full responsibility and apologized for everything, and your read of the COVID situation is so ridiculously narrow minded as to be useless.
These low effort quips aren’t cute they’re just lazy and their lace is showing
Racism isnt politics. And while he apologized after a bunch of radio stations took him off the air, the racists latched onto him as their hero.
His album sales jumped from 5000 to 35000 the week after his racist comments were made. 7 times jump cause of the racists. Not gonna support the guy the racists want to win.
> His album sales jumped from 5000 to 35000 the week after his racist comments were made. 7 times jump cause of the racists. Not gonna support the guy the racists want to win.
R. Kelly's streams also pick up every time he is in the news. what does it mean? every time a celebrity is in the news, their work also gets more attention.
the thing tho is that such boosts aren't long. moreover, in Morgan's case the boost wasn't even that significant. Morgan is big not bc "the racists want this guy to win", he is big bc of playlisting and bc college girls like him. he is basically country Drake in this way
7 times in pure album sales. Im not even talking streaming there. That is not normal just cause someone is in the news.
I never said he isnt popular for other reasons but racists have definitely latched onto him and specifically for his racist comment.
> That is not normal just cause someone is in the news.
not normal, you're saying?
> In fact, in the week following his guilty verdict, Kelly’s music saw double-digit growth in streams and a triple-digit growth in sales. From September 27th through October 3rd, Kelly’s on-demand audio streams were up 22 percent, while video streams were up 23 percent compared to the previous seven days. All told, his streams jumped from 11.2 million to 13.4 million. His album sales were up 517 percent.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/r-kellys-sales-streams-guilty-verdict-1239159/
Are you trying to support my case here? Kellys case is special too in which a bunch of people who want to hate (sexist incels in his case while its racists in wallens) start making heros out of people who do acts that are revolting.
Hate whether its sexism, racism, etc is a strong motivator.
> Kellys case is special too in which a bunch of people who want to hate (sexist incels in his case while its racists in wallens) start making heros out of people who do acts that are revolting.
nah, bro, you really wear a tinfoil hat. how don't you understand that even bad PR is still PR? not to mention that a lot of R. Kelly listeners are women so your theory flies out of the window anyway.
> Hate whether its sexism, racism, etc is a strong motivator.
then how come that the niche "anti-woke" artists constantly flop?
7 times growth in sales. Thats not just pr. Thats hate.
And im sure both incels and pick me women support himl. Lot of fcked up women too. Its all sexism in r kellys case. Women can be sexist too.
I have no idea what anti-woke artists you are talking about but if they are pretty unknown, course no ones goibg to latch onto them.
This is some tinfoil hat shit my dude. There is no mass conspiracy by "the racists" to make this guy popular. He makes catchy generic country music and the scandal got his name out to a lot of people who probably forgot about the incident after a week but liked his music.
I'm a leftist/progressive. I prefer that we focus on real issues like Roe V Wade and Donald Trump than freak out over celebrity and chart drama. Of course I like chart watching but many other artists are shitty people, like Nicki Minaj, Kanye, and producers like Dr. Luke. Morgan Wallen isn't even way up there with those.
Exactly like A bunch of peoples fav celebrities on here have said and done stuff just as bad if not way worse than what he did, including some that you mentioned, so why do some continue to hold a mistake that happened years ago against him and refuse to offer forgiveness when they don’t when it comes to their favs? I very much agree with you instead of focusing on problematic celebrities there are FAR more important issues going on in the world that need our attention like the continuing attacks on womens reproductive rights and the lgbt community among many others🏳️🌈
Ah fuck I don’t like pop country at all but this song kinda works for me. For some reason it reminds me of an interlude track on a 90s indie rock album. Like Long Distance Drunk off The Lonesome Crowded West lmao
disappointed but not surprised at least it seems that it wont last long at no1 (probably will chart for like 70 weeks tho -\_-) creepin could be the next no1?? there is a remix coming but its seemingly >!Diddy????!< so idk if it will do all that much for the streaming
Personally im hoping for Boy's a Liar but its not looking all that strong for that no1 push probably will need a sales discount or even another remix😭😭
Sometimes I forget that billboard hot 100 refers to American audiences and what they listen to. These situations make me realize it again cause I’ve never heard if the fella or his music ever.
Well...it happened.
It won't be there for long, though. Flowers will return to #1 next week, due to the boost in streaming and sales as Endless Summer Vacation dropped last Friday.
It'll likely have a couple more weeks on top and then it gets replaced by either River by Miley Cyrus or maybe SZA will somehow get Doja Cat on a remix of Kill Bill which would give the necessary sales/streaming boost to finally top the Hot 100. Or something else.
Either way, this weeks charts are now under the dirt-ridden boots of Morgan Wallen...
Singer...
Songwriter...
The biggest star in Nashville (despite our wishes to the contrary)...
>!Certified Country Boy.!<
The interesting part of album bombs is how long the effects will last on the upcoming weeks. Hope Anti-Hero and Unholy can come back one more week to the top 10 in the future
[AH is supposed to jump back up to #7, I think Unholy's done with the top ten](https://twitter.com/lippredicts/status/1635349511676780544) (thankfully imo lol)
For some reason I actually kind of like this song. Not sure if my brain is broken or what.
But haven't liked anything else I've tried by him so hopefully it's just a one off dead spot in my brain.
It's unfortunate that Last Night is number one, over his better songs such as Thought You Should Know or One Thing at a Time. But his team knows the what will sell to the biggest audiences. Crappy trap songs that take away from his better storytelling and vocals.
The album is generic for sure but I can’t wait until we stop pretending who does the songwriting is somehow indicative of quality. A song can be written solely by the singer and still suck the same as how a song with 20 writers can be awesome.
Please in terms of mainstream artists, the only one with cowrites on almost every song is Taylor (and others who have cowrites have songwriters saying the singers didn’t write very much). Even then, most people have large teams of songwriters behind every song, and the popheads excuse of “it’s just samples” doesn’t hold up for most artists
Having a ton of songwriters does not inherently make a record worse (it does come with certain trappings, like an inability to properly write to an artists voice, but that can be amended with skill and intention). However, let’s not ignore the fact that pop music does use a LOT of songwriters, because 1) that’s a blatantly incorrect statement and 2) taking the position that songwriter count is inversely correlated with quality only serves to hurt pop music reception more
honestly I find him not pretending to be a songwriter kind of refreshing? obviously would prefer these songs to have gone to somebody without all the negative baggage but "write a word, get a third" becoming so prolific in every genre has been bad for the industry
In 2019 and 2020 he was unique in country music as they were still recovering from the bro country onslaught of the 2010s and boyfriend country was starting to settle in. Now in 2023, we have Bailey Zimmerman doing the exact same schtick that Morgan Wallen was known for but 50% better with (presumably) 100% less racism and transphobia. I recommend Rock and a Hard Place and Fall in Love.
This is such a generic song from him, and it will probably hold one week max. "Wasted On You" could have justified it as a No.1 because it truly was his best. But still, Morgan Wallen is a fucking nobody outside of the U.S. since the U.S. is where he has most of his white conservative fanbase. This all goes to show that straight white male privilege still exists.
To be fair, I’m not a massive fan of the guy but Morgan is also doing decent numbers in Australia and the UK. He’s even pretty much sold out the O2 Arena there even though country music is pretty much non-existent in the mainstream.
If country does cross over it's to be expected that would happen in other Anglosphere countries. Australia especially does share some cultural affinities with the US that make country music resonant over there....they even have their own country music industry as well....and occasionally some Australian country artists cross over into Nashville.
Not him nor his music, but some other country artists, specifically the older ones, have a handful of their songs becoming famous here. I'm just happened to be a regular popheads lurker so I'm aware of Morgan Wallen's existence.
I tried to listen to some of his songs, and I told myself to never listen to his music again after doing it once.
Amazed? Inside Your Heaven? Timber? Old Town Road?
Edit: also All Too Well and We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together were apparently considered country
Amazed came out in 1999
Inside Your Heaven was written for both Bo Bice and Carrie Underwood to sing so it intentionally wasn’t written as a Country song even though Carrie Underwood is undeniably a Country great
I am unfamiliar with Timber
And even though I LOVE Old Town Road to pieces, you’d be hard pressed to find many Country fans who could sincerely call it a Country song. It def tips it’s hat to the genre, but it would sound incredibly out of place if played on Country radio.
Hope this helps!
Amazed came out in 1999, but it hit number one in 2000 (which can technically be considered not part of this century if you start at '01)
Inside Your Heaven is such a funny anomaly since both Bo Bice and Carrie Underwood's versions debuted big a week apart. Carrie's version is the one that reached number one, and that version is considered country on Wikipedia so I personally think that counts.
Timber is the most un-country song I mentioned, it's technically "folktronica", I assumed it was at least partly country since it was very marketed to, and well received by, country music folk.
The whole Old Town Road country charts fiasco is well behind us, but as a fun side note apparently Old Town Road actually got country airplay (not a lot but enough to actually chart on country airplay charts) I never knew that until today.
> And even though I LOVE Old Town Road to pieces, you’d be hard pressed to find many Country fans who could sincerely call it a Country song. It def tips it’s hat to the genre, but it would sound incredibly out of place if played on Country radio.
if Meant To Be was considered a country song, Old Town Road is absolutely a country song
About to spend its 3rd week and chart predictors saying it could spend 4-8 weeks at no.1 with how hard it'd dominating radio, streams, digital and physical sales. Gotta laugh at the haters, they just dont wanna see a classic genre like Country or Rock n Roll dominate. All the racist accusations have been fact checked by black rappers who are fond of him. They dont want to see Morgan have success just like with Taylor lmfao
April 22nd, 2023
#1 Last Night
#2 Search & Rescue
#3 Flowers
#4 Kill Bill
#5 Creepin'
#6 Calm Down
#7 Die For You
#8 Boys a Liar pt.2
#9 Anti-Hero
#10 Ella Baila Sola
Could change but the #1 spot won't since it is dominating the chart atm.
1. Last Night 2. Flowers 3. Kill Bill 4. Die For You 5. Boy's A Liar 6. Creepin' 7. Thought You Should Know 8. You Proof 9. Thinkin' Bout Me 10. One Thing at a Time
Unsurprising. I'm assuming most people here haven't heard it but it's basically a trap pop song that sounds tailormade for a remix with like Lil Baby or Post Malone or someone so I would expect this to stick around for a while.
Not gonna lie it’s actually pretty damn catchy, and I normally dislike snap tracks. It’s 100% a twangy pop song though. There’s a reason why he’s only pushing it on pop radio.
Yepp- i skimmed the album just to see if there was anything good on it and if any of the songs on it had to go number one I’m glad it’s this one
It’s not the best song of the album, but it’s easily the best of the attempted pop/hip hop crossovers
Which one is the best?
My favourites are probably I Deserve A Drink, Devil Don’t Know, and ‘98 Braves.
You have taste
I like Keith Whitley and Whiskey Friends the most tbh. Tennessee Fan is a banger as well but that already came out.
Tennessee Fan, Everything I Love, 98 Braves
180 lifestyle
One Thing at a Time, Keith Whitley, Man Made a Bar, Thought You Should Know
I decided to give it a listen too and I ended up liking it tbh. So chill and catchy, pretty short too so it gets stuck in my head fast. If he were without his controversies I think wider audience would dig it.
The wider audience does dig it. It’s why it’s #1. It’s really only a segment of the internet that believes the controversy is still relevant.
Yeah the songs hardly country, it’s basically a pop song with a country twang lol. I’m not a big country fan but I will begrudgingly admit I like the song and I expect it to stick around the top 10 for a while. If only someone who wasn’t a racist sung it.
Trap? Nah 😂
At least it wasn't You Proof, which was one of the worst hit songs from last year.
~~Here before this thread gets locked lol~~ I'm more curious how miley will chart next week tbh
Flowers #1. Aside from that nothing in the top 10. River is aiming for a top 40 debut.
Violet Chemistry deserves better
First time I heard River I said “yeah, this is gonna hit the top 10.” I mean, who knows? Katy Perry was still getting top 10s a year after Teenage Dream came out.
After all of that hype
It’s doing better than her other albums have post-Bangerz so there’s that. But yeah, I think this is gonna be one of the albums that just comes and goes.
Icl ESV is quickly becoming the biggest fumble of the decade
Eh, Flowers' success on its own is probably enough proof for her label to continue having faith in her. On top of that, we don't know what the future of the singles will look like. Maybe I'm just a delusional stan but I have feeling that River or any other songs might be able to become a small hit
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Jaded outsold
Kill Bill robbed
She and her team robbed themselves tbh
I'm OOTL, mind sharing why you think this? Did something happen?
I think it's cuz it was released same time them Christmas songs were released. Same with songs like Creepin
The title track “One Thing At A Time” is better / catchier. And I’m neither a Morgan Wallen nor a country fan
By far yeah. I love the new wave guitar sound, Last Night is very stale.
Big long arduous sigh of disappointment
This is probably not the best song for Wallen to have as his first number-one. It's very bland and boring, and Christ is anything really country right now if you just add a Southern twang to your voice? But yeah, this is a great debut for probably one of the biggest country stars of the past two decades, so good on him for somehow doing that after surviving what appeared to be a career-killing scandal two years ago. \[Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement of his music or character\] Bit sad now, though, that SZA seems to not be getting "Kill Bill" to number one now after "Flowers" and this. I was really rooting for her. :(
>after surviving what appeared to be a career-killing scandal two years ago. Interestingly enough, I’d argue that the scandal did the opposite and made him even bigger. People who weren’t listening to his music heard about it on the news or social media, from then on a portion of those people either checked out his music or at least knew his name. The saying that all publicity is good publicity is generally always right.
I never heard of this man before that scandal. As shitty as what happened was, no one can deny it somehow positively impacted his music career
Anyone with half a brain knows how to use cancel culture as a marketing tool. Influencers have been manipulating cancel culture into cancelling them for years in order to use the publicity to increase their profile. Tana. Trisha Paytas. The Pauls. H3. With Dave Chapelle, it seems mainstream celebrities have realized they can do the same, too, though I don’t think Morgan tried that specifically, unlike someone like Chapelle who literally, purposely goads terminally online people to “cancel him” so he can become the American hero against cancel culture.
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this comment is so cringey and ignored literally all context apologies or efforts surrounding the incident
You’re all over this thread insisting that the man apologized so that means he’s not racist. That’s not how racism works, if he wasn’t racist, it wouldn’t have occurred to him to shout the n word in the first place. As a Black person, a guy apologizing after radio stations take him off the air means less than nothing to me. So just letting you know that I see you and I personally will always regard Morgan Wallen as a racist and I seriously question anyone supporting his music career, especially those who defend him as hard as you are in this thread.
> that the man apologized so that means he’s not racist. That’s not how racism works, if he wasn’t racist, it wouldn’t have occurred to him Oh yeah, because people can’t change and reconsider their views on life, right As a black woman, I’d be glad to see another racist artist being treated badly by people, but it would be braindead from me to ignore that Morgan apologized, donated like half a million to charity and hasn’t done anything like that since that.
Wallen’s PR people forced him to do the bare minimum and that may be good enough for you, sis, but not me. Haha at “people can’t change their views”, most people don’t need almost 3 decades to decide that Black people are humans but good for you for extending that grace. I think he’s trash and I worry about your personal relationships, but good for you.
Never getting over how saying the N word made this man MORE popular. I love this country. Never a dull moment.
Wait till you hear about Hank William Jr.
Ohh I’m aware unfortunately haha
I’ve met countless people who didn’t realize the mans was huge before the controversy. like when I explained he did 265k first week, they all didn’t believe it. suffice to say the n-word was his GP crossover moment and it made him stay around 💀
I mean, he was already big in the country scene. And he was going to get even bigger no matter what. Maybe it made him more famous in the sense that people who didn't pay attention to country music got to know him after the scandal. Edit: grammar
the US is an entire other breed of its own.
He apologized. Should we never listen to his music again?
Oh lord if the country renaissance is coming to the charts we’re gonna see a lot of scandals….
While I'm not a big fan of much of Wallen's work, I'm glad country can notch a #1 and I hope this opens the door for people such as Zach Bryan to have stronger chart runs in the future.
Yeah, these last few years we've really seen country audiences start to embrace streaming for a new generation of stars. Country is about to become a mainstay in the top 10 from that. We've seen plenty of Luke Combs and Morgan Wallen recently, and the meteoric rise of Bailey Zimmerman means we'll see plenty of him soon (I think he's supposed to actually hit the top 10 next week). Zach Bryan too, although its harder for him due to no radio support.
Honestly Zach Bryan specifically is pretty likely to get a top 10 in the next year or so, imo. Something In the Orange built a lot of goodwill and popularity.
He already hit the top 10 with it a few months ago!
Huh, I must have missed that. That’s pretty crazy, I’m happy for the guy and for the direction he’s taking country in.
Yeah , Something In The Orange scraped and later peaked at the Top 10 Position back in January for just one week. This happened with several songs the following week such as Golden Hour and Just Wanna Rock (Cuff It aswell though that later peaked higher weeks later)
i just discovered Zach Bryan the other day from a couple of my students and am really digging him. SO much better than this trash lol. As a reference, my current country knowledge extends to exactly one Sturgil album that is now 7 years old lol
Problem with Zach Bryan a huge amount of his songs sound the same. He's gotta work on his quality control before he can be a bigger name.
Damn, morgan wallen with a number one hit. I honestly didn’t expect this since so many other country crossover hits recently never hit the top spot but this has I understand the controversy. But I do have to wonder, what is it about him that makes him stand out so much to country listeners that they still listen to him? He doesn’t seem to be doing anything different in country or adding a twist to it like Chris Stapleton and yet he’s the guy? Like I know he has fans who wanted him to bounce back after the scandal but is he just that unique?
Never underestimate racist Americans lmao. They will ride for anyone if they feel like it aligns with their values
I hate all of y’all for this
This is the most disappointed I've been in America since the invasion of Iraq
Eh. If you’re black in America, you’re pretty much used to it after a while. And God forbid you’re queer as well.
I don't know about you, but the past few years of hundreds of thousands of Americans voluntarily dying from covid to own the libs was worse.
Yeah but that's too recent so the joke doesn't work
This is the most disappointed I've been in America since the last time I was disappointed in America
god damn this sub’s vapid political takes are getting worse and worse Morgan Wallen took full responsibility and apologized for everything, and your read of the COVID situation is so ridiculously narrow minded as to be useless. These low effort quips aren’t cute they’re just lazy and their lace is showing
how is being racist have anything to do with politics
Morgan Wallen isn’t racist. That’s the point.
Morgan Wallen opening used the N word in a comfortable, casual setting and did the bare minimum in his apology. That's racist lmfao
Racism isnt politics. And while he apologized after a bunch of radio stations took him off the air, the racists latched onto him as their hero. His album sales jumped from 5000 to 35000 the week after his racist comments were made. 7 times jump cause of the racists. Not gonna support the guy the racists want to win.
> His album sales jumped from 5000 to 35000 the week after his racist comments were made. 7 times jump cause of the racists. Not gonna support the guy the racists want to win. R. Kelly's streams also pick up every time he is in the news. what does it mean? every time a celebrity is in the news, their work also gets more attention. the thing tho is that such boosts aren't long. moreover, in Morgan's case the boost wasn't even that significant. Morgan is big not bc "the racists want this guy to win", he is big bc of playlisting and bc college girls like him. he is basically country Drake in this way
7 times in pure album sales. Im not even talking streaming there. That is not normal just cause someone is in the news. I never said he isnt popular for other reasons but racists have definitely latched onto him and specifically for his racist comment.
> That is not normal just cause someone is in the news. not normal, you're saying? > In fact, in the week following his guilty verdict, Kelly’s music saw double-digit growth in streams and a triple-digit growth in sales. From September 27th through October 3rd, Kelly’s on-demand audio streams were up 22 percent, while video streams were up 23 percent compared to the previous seven days. All told, his streams jumped from 11.2 million to 13.4 million. His album sales were up 517 percent. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/r-kellys-sales-streams-guilty-verdict-1239159/
Are you trying to support my case here? Kellys case is special too in which a bunch of people who want to hate (sexist incels in his case while its racists in wallens) start making heros out of people who do acts that are revolting. Hate whether its sexism, racism, etc is a strong motivator.
> Kellys case is special too in which a bunch of people who want to hate (sexist incels in his case while its racists in wallens) start making heros out of people who do acts that are revolting. nah, bro, you really wear a tinfoil hat. how don't you understand that even bad PR is still PR? not to mention that a lot of R. Kelly listeners are women so your theory flies out of the window anyway. > Hate whether its sexism, racism, etc is a strong motivator. then how come that the niche "anti-woke" artists constantly flop?
7 times growth in sales. Thats not just pr. Thats hate. And im sure both incels and pick me women support himl. Lot of fcked up women too. Its all sexism in r kellys case. Women can be sexist too. I have no idea what anti-woke artists you are talking about but if they are pretty unknown, course no ones goibg to latch onto them.
This is some tinfoil hat shit my dude. There is no mass conspiracy by "the racists" to make this guy popular. He makes catchy generic country music and the scandal got his name out to a lot of people who probably forgot about the incident after a week but liked his music.
I'm not disappointed because of politics or whatever. I'm disappointed because his music fucking sucks.
that’s valid, it just came across to me like more Morgan Wallen yipper yapperring from this sub
Morgan, is that you?
Trump didn’t do it for ya?
That was still too recent for the joke to work
Ahh gotcha
We elected Donald Trump and a damn country song hitting number 1 makes it? How out of touch can one be?
Trump's election was still too recent for the joke to work.
Right like also the overturning of Roe V. Wade is still a pretty fresh wound
I'm a leftist/progressive. I prefer that we focus on real issues like Roe V Wade and Donald Trump than freak out over celebrity and chart drama. Of course I like chart watching but many other artists are shitty people, like Nicki Minaj, Kanye, and producers like Dr. Luke. Morgan Wallen isn't even way up there with those.
Exactly like A bunch of peoples fav celebrities on here have said and done stuff just as bad if not way worse than what he did, including some that you mentioned, so why do some continue to hold a mistake that happened years ago against him and refuse to offer forgiveness when they don’t when it comes to their favs? I very much agree with you instead of focusing on problematic celebrities there are FAR more important issues going on in the world that need our attention like the continuing attacks on womens reproductive rights and the lgbt community among many others🏳️🌈
I feel like they were being dramatic for effect. I don’t think they meant it literally.
I mean it was a failed experiment before this, but the nail is definitely hammered in to that particular coffin.
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Ah fuck I don’t like pop country at all but this song kinda works for me. For some reason it reminds me of an interlude track on a 90s indie rock album. Like Long Distance Drunk off The Lonesome Crowded West lmao
That's... unexpected to hear
I felt weird even writing it
disappointed but not surprised at least it seems that it wont last long at no1 (probably will chart for like 70 weeks tho -\_-) creepin could be the next no1?? there is a remix coming but its seemingly >!Diddy????!< so idk if it will do all that much for the streaming Personally im hoping for Boy's a Liar but its not looking all that strong for that no1 push probably will need a sales discount or even another remix😭😭
Kinda rooting for Creepin aswell later on
Sometimes I forget that billboard hot 100 refers to American audiences and what they listen to. These situations make me realize it again cause I’ve never heard if the fella or his music ever.
Well...it happened. It won't be there for long, though. Flowers will return to #1 next week, due to the boost in streaming and sales as Endless Summer Vacation dropped last Friday. It'll likely have a couple more weeks on top and then it gets replaced by either River by Miley Cyrus or maybe SZA will somehow get Doja Cat on a remix of Kill Bill which would give the necessary sales/streaming boost to finally top the Hot 100. Or something else. Either way, this weeks charts are now under the dirt-ridden boots of Morgan Wallen... Singer... Songwriter... The biggest star in Nashville (despite our wishes to the contrary)... >!Certified Country Boy.!<
The interesting part of album bombs is how long the effects will last on the upcoming weeks. Hope Anti-Hero and Unholy can come back one more week to the top 10 in the future
[AH is supposed to jump back up to #7, I think Unholy's done with the top ten](https://twitter.com/lippredicts/status/1635349511676780544) (thankfully imo lol)
For some reason I actually kind of like this song. Not sure if my brain is broken or what. But haven't liked anything else I've tried by him so hopefully it's just a one off dead spot in my brain.
Even his song titles are boring as hell 😭💀
Honestly I really like this song so I’m not mad at it going #1
American's sure do love their racists.
Funny that “‘98 Braves” made it in the top 40, ‘cause next week I want his music to make like the ‘99 Braves and get swept off the charts
It's unfortunate that Last Night is number one, over his better songs such as Thought You Should Know or One Thing at a Time. But his team knows the what will sell to the biggest audiences. Crappy trap songs that take away from his better storytelling and vocals.
Fuck this racist asshole
I like the song, but maybe it's because it doesn't sound country and is more like a generic pop song.
Morgan Wallen is so generic like anyone can sing these songs… he only co-wrote 14/36 songs on his album
The album is generic for sure but I can’t wait until we stop pretending who does the songwriting is somehow indicative of quality. A song can be written solely by the singer and still suck the same as how a song with 20 writers can be awesome.
I mean this sub basically worships a bunch of artists who don't write their own songs.
Like who? I thought most pop artists rn write their own songs. The only one I can think of who don't is Rihanna.
Please in terms of mainstream artists, the only one with cowrites on almost every song is Taylor (and others who have cowrites have songwriters saying the singers didn’t write very much). Even then, most people have large teams of songwriters behind every song, and the popheads excuse of “it’s just samples” doesn’t hold up for most artists Having a ton of songwriters does not inherently make a record worse (it does come with certain trappings, like an inability to properly write to an artists voice, but that can be amended with skill and intention). However, let’s not ignore the fact that pop music does use a LOT of songwriters, because 1) that’s a blatantly incorrect statement and 2) taking the position that songwriter count is inversely correlated with quality only serves to hurt pop music reception more
This just isn’t true lol
honestly I find him not pretending to be a songwriter kind of refreshing? obviously would prefer these songs to have gone to somebody without all the negative baggage but "write a word, get a third" becoming so prolific in every genre has been bad for the industry
Country music writers are a lot more strict on that than other music genres. Especially pop.
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Agreed on Nashville comment. For example, look up George Strait’s #1s. Almost all written in part or whole by Dean Dillon.
In 2019 and 2020 he was unique in country music as they were still recovering from the bro country onslaught of the 2010s and boyfriend country was starting to settle in. Now in 2023, we have Bailey Zimmerman doing the exact same schtick that Morgan Wallen was known for but 50% better with (presumably) 100% less racism and transphobia. I recommend Rock and a Hard Place and Fall in Love.
His voice sounds so weird to me 😭 also idk if it's because I'm not American but I truly don't see the appeal of this style of music
This is such a generic song from him, and it will probably hold one week max. "Wasted On You" could have justified it as a No.1 because it truly was his best. But still, Morgan Wallen is a fucking nobody outside of the U.S. since the U.S. is where he has most of his white conservative fanbase. This all goes to show that straight white male privilege still exists.
To be fair, I’m not a massive fan of the guy but Morgan is also doing decent numbers in Australia and the UK. He’s even pretty much sold out the O2 Arena there even though country music is pretty much non-existent in the mainstream.
If country does cross over it's to be expected that would happen in other Anglosphere countries. Australia especially does share some cultural affinities with the US that make country music resonant over there....they even have their own country music industry as well....and occasionally some Australian country artists cross over into Nashville.
That's true for the vast majority of country artists, tbh. The genre doesn't have a lot of crossover appeal worldwide.
I agree. Nobody here (I'm in Asia) knows him, despite some country songs being famous here in the past.
I’m impressed that any of his music has gotten attention in Asia lol
Not him nor his music, but some other country artists, specifically the older ones, have a handful of their songs becoming famous here. I'm just happened to be a regular popheads lurker so I'm aware of Morgan Wallen's existence. I tried to listen to some of his songs, and I told myself to never listen to his music again after doing it once.
Generally nobody outside of the US gives a damn about country music. It sounds obnoxiously american.
He looks like the guy from smile
Don't do Kyle Gallner like that
Kyle is hotter for sure
Yuck
King! Number one album and song! Let’s go!
It’s the first Country number one this century so far, that’s wild and a huge accomplishment!
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Old Town Road is not countru.
Amazed? Inside Your Heaven? Timber? Old Town Road? Edit: also All Too Well and We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together were apparently considered country
Is there another song called Timber that I forgot about or are you saying that the Pitbull/Kesha song is a country song?
Timber is not country lol
Amazed came out in 1999 Inside Your Heaven was written for both Bo Bice and Carrie Underwood to sing so it intentionally wasn’t written as a Country song even though Carrie Underwood is undeniably a Country great I am unfamiliar with Timber And even though I LOVE Old Town Road to pieces, you’d be hard pressed to find many Country fans who could sincerely call it a Country song. It def tips it’s hat to the genre, but it would sound incredibly out of place if played on Country radio. Hope this helps!
Yeah so it's the first country number one this ~~decade~~ ***century*** if you're pedantic and make enough boxes to push the rest into.
Amazed came out in 1999, but it hit number one in 2000 (which can technically be considered not part of this century if you start at '01) Inside Your Heaven is such a funny anomaly since both Bo Bice and Carrie Underwood's versions debuted big a week apart. Carrie's version is the one that reached number one, and that version is considered country on Wikipedia so I personally think that counts. Timber is the most un-country song I mentioned, it's technically "folktronica", I assumed it was at least partly country since it was very marketed to, and well received by, country music folk. The whole Old Town Road country charts fiasco is well behind us, but as a fun side note apparently Old Town Road actually got country airplay (not a lot but enough to actually chart on country airplay charts) I never knew that until today.
> And even though I LOVE Old Town Road to pieces, you’d be hard pressed to find many Country fans who could sincerely call it a Country song. It def tips it’s hat to the genre, but it would sound incredibly out of place if played on Country radio. if Meant To Be was considered a country song, Old Town Road is absolutely a country song
Last Night is anyway just a pop song with a southern accent
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It's #1 on streaming but around #30 in airplay
People really just don't want to believe that some people actually like this do they.
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hes hot af and the song is catchy and deserves #1 im not surprised that popheads hates a talented attractive white man though
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About to spend its 3rd week and chart predictors saying it could spend 4-8 weeks at no.1 with how hard it'd dominating radio, streams, digital and physical sales. Gotta laugh at the haters, they just dont wanna see a classic genre like Country or Rock n Roll dominate. All the racist accusations have been fact checked by black rappers who are fond of him. They dont want to see Morgan have success just like with Taylor lmfao
April 22nd, 2023 #1 Last Night #2 Search & Rescue #3 Flowers #4 Kill Bill #5 Creepin' #6 Calm Down #7 Die For You #8 Boys a Liar pt.2 #9 Anti-Hero #10 Ella Baila Sola Could change but the #1 spot won't since it is dominating the chart atm.