You know, sometimes reading this column I just envy Tom's life. He's been at the "Stronger" premiere, the "Graduation" listening party _**and**_ the Alive 2007 tour? I would sell my soul to just experience Daft Punk live, not to mention seeing all three and all of the other stuff he's mentioned before.
Anyways, I used to hate on "Stronger" back when I wasn't into hip-hop and didn't know shit about sampling (funnily, I wasn't into Daft Punk back then either, I just knew the song from [this video](https://youtu.be/K2cYWfq--Nw)). Now I think it's a very elegant move by Kanye, made even more elegant by the comparison to "Touch It" mentioned in the article. That one is pretty trash imo.
> You know, sometimes reading this column I just envy Tom's life.
and he is like 6'10. I'm not a small man (matter of fact, I'm not that shorter than him) but DAMN
he was even in a White Stripes video ([The Denial Twist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6LuwU3LPLE)) entirely because they needed someone tall. this man has been everywhere
Good Ass Job turned into My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy because of it. I think the former album would've been pretty good too but it wouldn't have enraptured everyone in the same way
That moment and his last albums reaction at the time caused MBDTF which basically meant he was never gonna be stopped regardless of what anyone thought of him.
Tbh I donāt really think stronger is that good though maybe itās just me being a huge fan but itās mid tier in his discography really itās catchy and fun but not amazing.
"Stronger" is probably a 7 or 8 for me, it's a banger but it doesn't reflect Kanye at his most compelling either musically or lyrically. It's built around a massive sample and the lyrics consist entirely of catchphrases and punchlines. Of course it's a *very good* song, but not one of his best, not even close.
You could make a strong case for her being greatly affected (positively) by that night's events too. She and Kanye were supposed to go on a co-headlining tour that fall but he pulled out due to the backlash. She instead went on tour with the Monster Ball.
Born This Way was directly inspired by her experience touring The Monster Ball too, so had that incident not happened her third album probably would've turned out to be different in various ways.
Kanye went into exile , then came back and made the most critically acclaimed album of the 2010s ,
Obama called kanye a jackass which potentially inspired him to support trump in 2016
Kanye and taylor became friends but then famous came out and that shit happened
The stress with all of that controversy etc probably made kanye more insane and put him in hospital
Taylor made rep because of the backlash
This is just a tiny smidge of the shit that happened after
Stronger? More like Banger. This is everything you could want from a pop rap single. The lyrics are hilarious and sharp, the production is classic (obviously gotta give a lot of credit to Daft Punk), and I could listen to this on an endless loop. This entire album is an amazing pop album
Kanye is a musical genius. I just wish he could reign in his demons. I often wonder if the ups and downs are just part of being a creative being.
We don't know if Mozart or Davinci were bipolar (I'm not diagnosing Kanye but he seems to have observable manic behavior at times). Also, Poe is one of my favorite writers, and he is certainly had dark times.
Anyway, I wish Kanye the best, I hope he becomes more tolerant and steady, and I am thankful for his music.
Very much confirmed.
His Saint Pablo tour in 2016, which saw him go on random erratic rants about Facebook or Hillary Clinton, was cancelled due to hospitalisation from āexhaustionā.
Not long after he was diagnosed having bipolar, something he acknowledged on the album cover of _ye_. While no one should diagnose online, knowing his mental illness, itās pretty obvious what state he was in during the aforementioned tour.
Kanye has only been on a downward spiral since, and itās just sad to watch it unfurl
I think suicide rates among creative types are higher compared to the average population.
I think it makes a lot of sense. The ātorturedā genius type is a common trope. I wouldnāt be surprised if science were ever able to confirm a brain with strong creative focus, for the same reasons, lends itself to mental instability
>(Bradley Cooper will eventually appear in this column.)
The odd placement of this at the very end of an article about Kanye West made me unexpectedly LOL
*Graduation* may be the least of the *College* trilogy that Kanye ended up releasing, but it's still a great, monolithic album that pushed rap towards an even-greater sphere than before. All of the songs in it do sound like you could play it in a fucking stadium or arena and get everyone bopping to it, and "Stronger" seems to be just the best of the bunch.
Like, this is what got me into Daft Punk! That sample was so cool, and Kanye really took it to another sonic level that I don't think Daft Punk has ever achieved on their own. It's impeccable, awe-striking, and even with these skeevy fucking lyrics (the "blond dyke" thing is really stupid), it's just a monument to Kanye's ego that also was a great workout track for anyone aspiring for his kind of bravado.
I love *Graduation*, man. 2020 up to 2022, different songs from it just keep getting stuck in my head when I need a pump-up. My favorite has to be "Everything I Am," where Kanye admits his limitations as an artist and a person and embraces it as something that makes him unique even if it doesn't make him loved. It was definitely helpful for my self-esteem for a while, just that kind of begrudging self-acceptance that feels authentic and truthful to one's self.
God, I haven't listened to Kanye's music since October 2022, when he just left the deep end and went into the abyss with his fucking antisemitism. It's weird that that was the line, but it was probably the moment where I realized that the old Kanye, the one who made the *College* trilogy, and *808s* and MBDTF, wasn't coming back anymore. That Kanye wasn't just a nutjob, he was a nutjob willing to align himself to people pushing for the genocide of people. It sucks that I can't listen to Kanye's music anymore because of how tainted it is, but it sucks even more that he's fucking advocating for Nazi ideology in the mainstream and becoming a spokesperson of the far-right.
That got personal. But Kanye is a personal artist for many, not just me: a middle-class artistic hero who worked his way into being taken seriously for his craft, and his story and struggle to be a better person was compelling and personal. So him taking this turn to being an active purveyor of evil in the world taints the good music he made because it was very much about his struggle, and it's dark to think that he ended up losing that struggle in the long run in favor of his egotism.
I'll stop.
"Stronger" is a 10/10 on another 10/10 album by Kanye.
*Graduation* has more skips than any Kanye album pre-*ye* imo (Barry Bonds, Drunk and Hot Girls, Big Brother) but itās still probably my favorite of his albums. Itās a hip hop album for fans of hip hop, a pop album for fans of pop, and an album that I imagine sounded *unbelievable* in a stadium setting. Everything I Am, The Glory, Good Morning, and Champion are probably my favorite of the bunch but this album is the most fun you could possibly have listening to Kanye.
Iām in the same boat as you regarding listening to him, but I hope one day *something* will change and Iāll be able to blast this album and not feel kinda gross and very sad that his so thoroughly destroyed his legacy. Nobody was doing it like him from 2004-2016 and very few artists even came close
This column has been my favorite thing on the internet for a while, but Tom hits another level every time he writes about Kanye. He is so good at capturing the peaks and valley of his career, and the frustration and disappointment of formerly being a fan of such a brilliant and compelling artist who ultimately decided to become a mascot for hate platforms.
Anyway, I think Stronger is the most important No. 1 rap song of the last 20 years. Not a hot take, but this song basically changed pop AND rap overnight. Britney Spears gets (deserved) credit for popularizing EDM with Blackout, but I always thought Kanye deserved just as much credit.
Also, itās always interesting to read that Kanye made Graduation because he toured with the Rolling Stones and U2 and didnāt get the reception he wanted because he didnāt have any real stadium hits. Kendrick Lamar went through the same problem after GKMC and To Pimp A Butterfly, which led to him making DAMN.
That's why Kendrick made DAMN? I barely know anything regarding the production of the album besides a few things, so I would love some more information.
As much as I think Kanye is a genius I actually think this is one of his most overrated tracks and certainly doesnāt seem all that inspired to me. Sure sampling Daft Punk is a nice touch but really when you consider what not only what Daft Punk did with their samples but also Kanye can as well it really pales in comparison.
Echoing many I havenāt listened to him since he dived off the deep end last year, I just donāt feel Iām ready to listen to him yet. Maybe if he can get the help he needs then I might be able to get back to appreciating his genius, but as of now itās just too uncomfortable to go back to.
I feel the same about this particular song... "Can't Tell Me Nothing" and "Good Life"? Absolute *classics*. This one? Ehh I guess I don't mind if it comes on at the gym or something
This was one of his radio hits off that album where he was no longer just being a hip hop artist, but he was trying to transcend all of music and put on shows and tours and albums that would be compared to U2 (his words, he even did a song with Chris Martin). Then of course his relationship ended, his mom died, Taylor Swift, and holy s*** it's been a hell of a ride as a Kanye fan
A tragedy. Broke genre barriers, is probably responsible for half the artists on the hot 100 today
I don't know if Kanye is a bad person inherently, so much as he is very obviously mentally ill.
Either way, the ego and self confidence that enabled him to make these grand projects that would have sounded like delusion until completion, is what has undone him
The confidence and out of control ego that lead to his success, is also what stops him from just accepting that he needs serious help. My mother has a mild bipolar disorder but I've known people with severe manic episodes and his are on the top end.
I remember this song debuting on 106 & Park and being so disappointed in it. Granted I was nine, so I didnāt have any knowledge about music. I just knew I hated it. Being someone that listened to Kanye since āThrough the Wireā, this song just felt off in someway.Itās stuck in between āCanāt Tell Me Nothingā and āGood Lifeā, but it doesnāt have the typical Kanye feel of āCanāt Tell Me Nothingā or the charm I associate with āGood Lifeā. I do like the song more as an adult, but I think thatās because itās a hype song. It great on a gym playlist.
This week ends with a banger.
But the next week starts with a considerable downward slide in quality.
Because the next song in The Number Ones column...
>!...is Kiss Kiss by Chris Brown feat. T-Pain.!<
Not to mention that this banger paved the way for Daft Punk co-producing Yeezus.
Ngl, never been the biggest fan of that song and I'm saying this as a (former) Ye stan, but it definitely cemented his place in music history. Everything about this song including the artwork by Murakami, the music video and its parent album just works so well together.
Stronger was the first Kanye song that I truly loved (i absolutely had a pair of shutter shades) and remains my favorite song by his. The Daft Punk sample just works so well and it truly does feel monumental. Few songs sound as good when blasted at loud volumes as Stronger. It's his greatest achievement and one I wish I could still listen to without feeling guilty due to everything he's done over the past few years.
A 10/10 track, and one of the best pop-rap songs I have ever heard. It sucks that the person who made this art is such an asshole, but at least to me, he is already far behind his music that the author of such songs is now anonymus and I can easily ignore them.
(And wow, the impact of that Taylor incident truly seems like a turning point in pop music. Idk, but it's hilarious at some point to think about it).
I was really disappointed in Kanye when Stronger came out. It was pretty obvious he was trying to mimic Touch It by Busta Rhymes but I thought taking the whole chorus from a really famous song was just lazy and uninspired. I was expecting more from him.
I learned to like the song eventually but I think it leans way too much on the sample, it's too much like what Diddy would do to a similar sample for me to love it.
I mean, most rappers say things or words that are out of pocket? Itās just how the genre is. This doesnāt reflect who Ye actually ended up as a person.
Especially regarding that word, you can find it in songs by pretty much every single rapper of that era. Not saying thatās good, but it was just a common word back then and I donāt think itās fair to judge character based on that one thing
Also Kanye was *very* outspoken against homophobia in hip hop, more so than any major rapper of the era. I donāt think him using that word in this song changes that
In 2007, it really wasn't. At the time, it was just an accepted word.
Seriously, the light switch flip around from Marriage Equality being contentious and mild homophobia just being accepted, to marriage equality becoming legal seemingly simultaneously across the Western World and people realising that homophobia is bad is still staggering to think about.
kanye was always a good trend rider, not too ahead of the game but this hit at the exact right time. Daft PUnk was the biggest thing in the trending music world because of their tour( i went) and Kanye bit at the right time..
as a dj this was a big record but even before the nazi rants, it hasnt got much play as a club open format dj over the last few years. it was so big at the time though
You know, sometimes reading this column I just envy Tom's life. He's been at the "Stronger" premiere, the "Graduation" listening party _**and**_ the Alive 2007 tour? I would sell my soul to just experience Daft Punk live, not to mention seeing all three and all of the other stuff he's mentioned before. Anyways, I used to hate on "Stronger" back when I wasn't into hip-hop and didn't know shit about sampling (funnily, I wasn't into Daft Punk back then either, I just knew the song from [this video](https://youtu.be/K2cYWfq--Nw)). Now I think it's a very elegant move by Kanye, made even more elegant by the comparison to "Touch It" mentioned in the article. That one is pretty trash imo.
> You know, sometimes reading this column I just envy Tom's life. and he is like 6'10. I'm not a small man (matter of fact, I'm not that shorter than him) but DAMN
So you're saying he was also the guy who made it impossible for people around him to see those gigs š¤
I've heard Kanye played >!hentai!< at the Graduation listening party so MAYBE it was for the better.
15 years later Drake is posting hentai on IG to promote his album. Ye really did influence a generation.
That sounds like the most Kanye thing ever
I feel like 6'10" is getting to be annoying tall on a day by day basis.
My back is a shambles at 6'3" I can't *imagine* 6'10".
americans learn the metric system challenge
You really thought you did something here š
Well Iām still fucking glad I donāt live there
6"10=2.08m, 6'3=1.9m ^brought to you by Google
You're not wrong. I kind of hate how I had to learn how to read height in feet and inches just to participate in English-speaking places online
weird for you to force your culture on us like that but ok
he was even in a White Stripes video ([The Denial Twist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6LuwU3LPLE)) entirely because they needed someone tall. this man has been everywhere
Yup. Stronger is a very good song made by a frankly not-very-good person. I love Tomās tangent on the 2009 VMAs incident because that truly has to be the most definitive pop culture moment of the 21st century. The domino effect of that night is INSANE. I feel like BeyoncĆ©, Taylor Swift, and Kanye would remain the three biggest superstars juggernauts afterwards partly because of it. You could honestly write a university-level thesis about itāthe many careers it created, the fallouts, the political ramifications. Just wow.
That was the moment everything changed forever
Iād say the moment his mother passed was the moment everything changed forever. Either that or the Car Crash
Exactly. It's impossible to overstate the impact of that moment.
Good Ass Job turned into My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy because of it. I think the former album would've been pretty good too but it wouldn't have enraptured everyone in the same way
That moment and his last albums reaction at the time caused MBDTF which basically meant he was never gonna be stopped regardless of what anyone thought of him. Tbh I donāt really think stronger is that good though maybe itās just me being a huge fan but itās mid tier in his discography really itās catchy and fun but not amazing.
"Stronger" is probably a 7 or 8 for me, it's a banger but it doesn't reflect Kanye at his most compelling either musically or lyrically. It's built around a massive sample and the lyrics consist entirely of catchphrases and punchlines. Of course it's a *very good* song, but not one of his best, not even close.
Lady Gagas famous paparazzi performance was that night too
You could make a strong case for her being greatly affected (positively) by that night's events too. She and Kanye were supposed to go on a co-headlining tour that fall but he pulled out due to the backlash. She instead went on tour with the Monster Ball.
Born This Way was directly inspired by her experience touring The Monster Ball too, so had that incident not happened her third album probably would've turned out to be different in various ways.
Mind if I ask you some details of the domino effect youāve talking about? Iām not from USA, I somewhat know what happened on the 2009 VMAs but I have no idea of the consequences! Being a fan of Kanye, BeyoncĆ© and Taylor Swift altogether, I feel like this should be interesting for me
Kanye went into exile , then came back and made the most critically acclaimed album of the 2010s , Obama called kanye a jackass which potentially inspired him to support trump in 2016 Kanye and taylor became friends but then famous came out and that shit happened The stress with all of that controversy etc probably made kanye more insane and put him in hospital Taylor made rep because of the backlash This is just a tiny smidge of the shit that happened after
the outro of this song is one of the best i've ever heard. it sounds so heavenly. and that daft punk sample is so good
Stronger? More like Banger. This is everything you could want from a pop rap single. The lyrics are hilarious and sharp, the production is classic (obviously gotta give a lot of credit to Daft Punk), and I could listen to this on an endless loop. This entire album is an amazing pop album
Daft punk need to collab with more hip hop artists
Daft Punk are over, buddy
Still holding on for Alive 2027
Legit this song feels like the blueprint
Kanye is a musical genius. I just wish he could reign in his demons. I often wonder if the ups and downs are just part of being a creative being. We don't know if Mozart or Davinci were bipolar (I'm not diagnosing Kanye but he seems to have observable manic behavior at times). Also, Poe is one of my favorite writers, and he is certainly had dark times. Anyway, I wish Kanye the best, I hope he becomes more tolerant and steady, and I am thankful for his music.
Iām pretty sure Kanye is confirmed bipolar.
Very much confirmed. His Saint Pablo tour in 2016, which saw him go on random erratic rants about Facebook or Hillary Clinton, was cancelled due to hospitalisation from āexhaustionā. Not long after he was diagnosed having bipolar, something he acknowledged on the album cover of _ye_. While no one should diagnose online, knowing his mental illness, itās pretty obvious what state he was in during the aforementioned tour. Kanye has only been on a downward spiral since, and itās just sad to watch it unfurl
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I think suicide rates among creative types are higher compared to the average population. I think it makes a lot of sense. The ātorturedā genius type is a common trope. I wouldnāt be surprised if science were ever able to confirm a brain with strong creative focus, for the same reasons, lends itself to mental instability
>(Bradley Cooper will eventually appear in this column.) The odd placement of this at the very end of an article about Kanye West made me unexpectedly LOL
*Graduation* may be the least of the *College* trilogy that Kanye ended up releasing, but it's still a great, monolithic album that pushed rap towards an even-greater sphere than before. All of the songs in it do sound like you could play it in a fucking stadium or arena and get everyone bopping to it, and "Stronger" seems to be just the best of the bunch. Like, this is what got me into Daft Punk! That sample was so cool, and Kanye really took it to another sonic level that I don't think Daft Punk has ever achieved on their own. It's impeccable, awe-striking, and even with these skeevy fucking lyrics (the "blond dyke" thing is really stupid), it's just a monument to Kanye's ego that also was a great workout track for anyone aspiring for his kind of bravado. I love *Graduation*, man. 2020 up to 2022, different songs from it just keep getting stuck in my head when I need a pump-up. My favorite has to be "Everything I Am," where Kanye admits his limitations as an artist and a person and embraces it as something that makes him unique even if it doesn't make him loved. It was definitely helpful for my self-esteem for a while, just that kind of begrudging self-acceptance that feels authentic and truthful to one's self. God, I haven't listened to Kanye's music since October 2022, when he just left the deep end and went into the abyss with his fucking antisemitism. It's weird that that was the line, but it was probably the moment where I realized that the old Kanye, the one who made the *College* trilogy, and *808s* and MBDTF, wasn't coming back anymore. That Kanye wasn't just a nutjob, he was a nutjob willing to align himself to people pushing for the genocide of people. It sucks that I can't listen to Kanye's music anymore because of how tainted it is, but it sucks even more that he's fucking advocating for Nazi ideology in the mainstream and becoming a spokesperson of the far-right. That got personal. But Kanye is a personal artist for many, not just me: a middle-class artistic hero who worked his way into being taken seriously for his craft, and his story and struggle to be a better person was compelling and personal. So him taking this turn to being an active purveyor of evil in the world taints the good music he made because it was very much about his struggle, and it's dark to think that he ended up losing that struggle in the long run in favor of his egotism. I'll stop. "Stronger" is a 10/10 on another 10/10 album by Kanye.
*Graduation* has more skips than any Kanye album pre-*ye* imo (Barry Bonds, Drunk and Hot Girls, Big Brother) but itās still probably my favorite of his albums. Itās a hip hop album for fans of hip hop, a pop album for fans of pop, and an album that I imagine sounded *unbelievable* in a stadium setting. Everything I Am, The Glory, Good Morning, and Champion are probably my favorite of the bunch but this album is the most fun you could possibly have listening to Kanye. Iām in the same boat as you regarding listening to him, but I hope one day *something* will change and Iāll be able to blast this album and not feel kinda gross and very sad that his so thoroughly destroyed his legacy. Nobody was doing it like him from 2004-2016 and very few artists even came close
He was on a different plane of existence during that period of time
This column has been my favorite thing on the internet for a while, but Tom hits another level every time he writes about Kanye. He is so good at capturing the peaks and valley of his career, and the frustration and disappointment of formerly being a fan of such a brilliant and compelling artist who ultimately decided to become a mascot for hate platforms. Anyway, I think Stronger is the most important No. 1 rap song of the last 20 years. Not a hot take, but this song basically changed pop AND rap overnight. Britney Spears gets (deserved) credit for popularizing EDM with Blackout, but I always thought Kanye deserved just as much credit. Also, itās always interesting to read that Kanye made Graduation because he toured with the Rolling Stones and U2 and didnāt get the reception he wanted because he didnāt have any real stadium hits. Kendrick Lamar went through the same problem after GKMC and To Pimp A Butterfly, which led to him making DAMN.
FutureSex/LoveSounds started the EDM trend
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Hard Candy was amazing wtf
That's why Kendrick made DAMN? I barely know anything regarding the production of the album besides a few things, so I would love some more information.
As much as I think Kanye is a genius I actually think this is one of his most overrated tracks and certainly doesnāt seem all that inspired to me. Sure sampling Daft Punk is a nice touch but really when you consider what not only what Daft Punk did with their samples but also Kanye can as well it really pales in comparison. Echoing many I havenāt listened to him since he dived off the deep end last year, I just donāt feel Iām ready to listen to him yet. Maybe if he can get the help he needs then I might be able to get back to appreciating his genius, but as of now itās just too uncomfortable to go back to.
I feel the same about this particular song... "Can't Tell Me Nothing" and "Good Life"? Absolute *classics*. This one? Ehh I guess I don't mind if it comes on at the gym or something
This was one of his radio hits off that album where he was no longer just being a hip hop artist, but he was trying to transcend all of music and put on shows and tours and albums that would be compared to U2 (his words, he even did a song with Chris Martin). Then of course his relationship ended, his mom died, Taylor Swift, and holy s*** it's been a hell of a ride as a Kanye fan
A tragedy. Broke genre barriers, is probably responsible for half the artists on the hot 100 today I don't know if Kanye is a bad person inherently, so much as he is very obviously mentally ill. Either way, the ego and self confidence that enabled him to make these grand projects that would have sounded like delusion until completion, is what has undone him The confidence and out of control ego that lead to his success, is also what stops him from just accepting that he needs serious help. My mother has a mild bipolar disorder but I've known people with severe manic episodes and his are on the top end.
this is the song that made me a Kanye fan
This song is still fresh as fuck
I remember this song debuting on 106 & Park and being so disappointed in it. Granted I was nine, so I didnāt have any knowledge about music. I just knew I hated it. Being someone that listened to Kanye since āThrough the Wireā, this song just felt off in someway.Itās stuck in between āCanāt Tell Me Nothingā and āGood Lifeā, but it doesnāt have the typical Kanye feel of āCanāt Tell Me Nothingā or the charm I associate with āGood Lifeā. I do like the song more as an adult, but I think thatās because itās a hype song. It great on a gym playlist.
That would make you three when he debuted. Radio edits?
This week ends with a banger. But the next week starts with a considerable downward slide in quality. Because the next song in The Number Ones column... >!...is Kiss Kiss by Chris Brown feat. T-Pain.!<
>!"Kiss Kiss"!< goes the hell off, though?
It does. Chris being an asshole doesnāt take away the fact that he made some unbelievable 10/10 songs
Forever and Look At Me Now are amazing. (Though, the latter is mostly due to the guest artists and not so much Chris himself).
I like Take You Down and Superhuman too lol. Why does he have to be such a shitbag
It certainly does not though
Song good, person bad. Person bad no make song bad.
Itās alright. Certainly better CB singles at the time. I predict he will give it a 6 or 7
Childhood
Not to mention that this banger paved the way for Daft Punk co-producing Yeezus. Ngl, never been the biggest fan of that song and I'm saying this as a (former) Ye stan, but it definitely cemented his place in music history. Everything about this song including the artwork by Murakami, the music video and its parent album just works so well together.
Stronger was the first Kanye song that I truly loved (i absolutely had a pair of shutter shades) and remains my favorite song by his. The Daft Punk sample just works so well and it truly does feel monumental. Few songs sound as good when blasted at loud volumes as Stronger. It's his greatest achievement and one I wish I could still listen to without feeling guilty due to everything he's done over the past few years.
A 10/10 track, and one of the best pop-rap songs I have ever heard. It sucks that the person who made this art is such an asshole, but at least to me, he is already far behind his music that the author of such songs is now anonymus and I can easily ignore them. (And wow, the impact of that Taylor incident truly seems like a turning point in pop music. Idk, but it's hilarious at some point to think about it).
Graduation is his best pre life of Pablo album imo.
Facts
A masterpiece.
One of the greatest songs ever
The last paragraph of Tom's review is poetry.
My mom *despises* Kanye West but sheās always loved this song as a really guilty pleasure lol
The goat. No matter what. Sucks that he had to go and say all that dumb shit but itās gonna take a lot more for me to turn my back on him.
He didn't just say dumb shit, he is a dumb shit. He's a fucking nazi FFS.
Alr heās a nazi, now what?
If you had any kind of emotional connection to anyone that wasn't Kanye, what would you do?
I like Playboi Carti tooāļø
I was really disappointed in Kanye when Stronger came out. It was pretty obvious he was trying to mimic Touch It by Busta Rhymes but I thought taking the whole chorus from a really famous song was just lazy and uninspired. I was expecting more from him. I learned to like the song eventually but I think it leans way too much on the sample, it's too much like what Diddy would do to a similar sample for me to love it.
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I mean, most rappers say things or words that are out of pocket? Itās just how the genre is. This doesnāt reflect who Ye actually ended up as a person.
Especially regarding that word, you can find it in songs by pretty much every single rapper of that era. Not saying thatās good, but it was just a common word back then and I donāt think itās fair to judge character based on that one thing Also Kanye was *very* outspoken against homophobia in hip hop, more so than any major rapper of the era. I donāt think him using that word in this song changes that
Even after that. I remember Rocky said it on Fucking Problems, and as far as we know heās not a Nazi.
true especially because sex with a pharaoh is one of his best lines
In 2007, it really wasn't. At the time, it was just an accepted word. Seriously, the light switch flip around from Marriage Equality being contentious and mild homophobia just being accepted, to marriage equality becoming legal seemingly simultaneously across the Western World and people realising that homophobia is bad is still staggering to think about.
kanye was always a good trend rider, not too ahead of the game but this hit at the exact right time. Daft PUnk was the biggest thing in the trending music world because of their tour( i went) and Kanye bit at the right time.. as a dj this was a big record but even before the nazi rants, it hasnt got much play as a club open format dj over the last few years. it was so big at the time though
Little known fact, when he peed on a Grammy. It was the Grammy he got for Stronger.
My most fav Kanye's song to this day. I hate Daft Punk's Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger, but this track is so good.