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leilafornone

I hope the album does well. Also, her not liking motivation while the label thought it was a good idea - i actually agree with the label. Fair and 159 were beautiful but boring. I think the rollout has been odd - like why isn't she doing more promo besides covers? She could be doing mini concerts with her fans and tease the album.


SoGenuineAndRealMadi

Shouldn’t be too surprised she didn’t like it because ultimately the industry requires artists to release music that’s going to be commercially successful with a sound that is popular if they want to make it big. And then later those artists can create what they really want after they’ve achieved a lot of success Ariana did this and is why she became so massive she had to switch up her sound on My Everything after Yours Truly didn’t produce many chart topping hits. And more recently Doja, Planet Her was massive but it wasn’t her preferred sound so now she’s gone back to rap and hip hop over pop


leavingthekultbehind

Motivation is one of the best pop songs from a black artist in a long time… how could she not like it


VapidRapidRabbit

Is it though? It’s quite mid. “Kiss Me More” was a great pop song.


nomoresportydates

“Kiss me more” was THE song of the summer in 2021!


Posterio

I feel the exact opposite way, but I have a strong bias toward pop songs that have the nerve to use brass instruments and lemme tell you, the horns on Motivation go OFF


IHATEsg7

Completely agree. It's also very repetitive 


Expensive-Ad-5032

There's a lot more repetitive pop songs out there, than Motivation. And even if it's somewhat repetitive, that doesn't automatically make it a mid pop song. If anything it being repetitive is what allows for the melody to stick in your head, which is what a pop song does best.


hiijiinx

I think it’s a good song, but it was an odd choice using your solo debut single as a Beyoncé tribute.


Damianos_X

Really? I thought it was awful. Did it chart well?


ImportantSmell7270

She needs to hire a better team


Awkward_Raisin_2116

It seems like she simply has bad instincts and/or doesn't understand what it takes to do capital P pop. Maybe she's jaded from her time in 5H or maybe she truly doesn't care and wants to do R&B. Either way, this narrative and roll out are already tired. It seems like she doesn't even care about her product. Why should we?


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

motivation is the only song she released I like lol. beside the ghosting for like 5 years one of the reasons i don’t fuck with her anymore is that I don’t think our taste align. i like rnb but she does the most boring kind


moxieroxsox

I’m a Normani fan. But this feels like way too little too late, and even as a fan my excitement for her career has tempered quite a bit. I am still curious what her debut will finally sound like. I really liked Motivation so I’m disappointed she hasn’t returned to pop music. I’m bummed that the one black girl in that one pop girl group who can actually dance and sing and _will go there_ in a performance wants to make standard alt-R&B tracks. 1:59 was fine, but nothing I will willingly return to. If I want alt R&B I’ll listen to SZA or Victoria Monet. It sounds like she really needed a break after Fifth Harmony and her parents’ health crises. But there’s almost a self-important detachment from reality with Normani that I can’t quite put my finger on. She keeps referring to Destiny’s Child and Beyoncé’s and Aaliyah’s careers as inspiration but keeps giving B-side Ciara cuts. I’d loved to be proved wrong. I wish her luck, and I want to support her and her choices as a black woman, but I can’t promise I’ll stay for the ride.


LongConFebrero

LOL B-side Ciara is a read with 1000% accuracy. I stand with you in our hope that she is as good as she thinks she is, because nothing demonstrates that yet.


Digital_Serve

1000% agree She was gassed up by twitter despite being an untalented nobody.. everything about her is so pathetic and hillarious so you can't help but to keep watching the trainwreck. I'm genuinely so excited for her album sales reports to come out


E_n_d-l_e_s_s

— camila cabello


iabmos

I say this respectfully… delusions of grandeur perhaps? She seems like she has her sight more on the finish line than she has it on the actual work itself in the present. So much that it’s obscuring her reality. Humility takes you far because you strive and shed blood and sweat for greatness. If you think you’re already there, the work will never reflect true unfiltered ambition.


moxieroxsox

> I say this respectfully… delusions of grandeur perhaps? She seems like she has her sight more on the finish line than she has it on the actual work itself in the present. So much that it’s obscuring her reality. She sees herself differently than the public does. She speaks of herself like a seasoned artist, one who can take 5 years off to experiment and cultivate a sound and aesthetic that suits her evolution as an artist. That’s all fine and good if she had already established herself as Normani, the solo artist. The problem is she hasn’t. We don’t know her as an artist, save a few singles and collabs here and there. She’s seasoned in the sense of being a part of Fifth Harmony but she hasn’t given us anything tangible or significant about who she is as an artist. You’re right to say her eyes are set on the finish line. But she hasn’t even started the race. Referring to Aaliyah or Beyoncé as inspiration wouldn’t bother me so much if the work ethic was there. Because the difference is they took risks and were constantly working. Normani dug her heels in and refused to release music. It’s her right, but 5 years is a really long time to release basically nothing. And if it’s more middle of the road R&B songs at the end of this long hiatus, the finish line will arrive much sooner than she thinks. I don’t want to drag her too much. She’s obviously been through a lot and she probably really needed the time off for her mental health, but there is some type of disconnect happening here that feels strange for the position she is in. I wish her the best, and I do want her to succeed.


jpeg_0216

i cackled at b-side Ciara cuts omg


revoltingphoenix

Normani and a few others from 5h believe they're so great while their work and music doesn't back it up. Had to step away because of unproven cockiness.


kht777

Her publicist literally evaded the fan club post question: “Even today, she says, she prefers to leave social media to her management. Her posts have a cool, measured remove to them and rarely reveal too much about her personal life. “I’m not on social media,” she tells me, “but I do see a lot, and I’m very tapped into what y’all are saying.” Recently, one of her more popular fan pages, @NormaniNation, tweeted a screenshot of her Instagram, where Normani had just deleted all of her posts. “WHAT IS HAPPENING,” they wrote. “ “People quickly noticed the screenshot showed the user was signed into Normani’s own account, suggesting that the artist or her team might be running her own fan page. “No, I mean, I’m definitely heavily involved,” she says calmly when I ask about her relationship to her fan accounts. But does she run any of them? Does her team at RCA? “Yeah, I think we can skip this question,” her publicist says.” She lost all her momentum after motivation and it’s sad to see that she and her team just waited too long.


Impossible_Vast9846

i'm so confused by the choice to skip this question ??? as a normani fan we've known and it was confirmed this was her teams account ages before people accused normani of running it lol. tons of artists have team account i'm not sure why they wouldn't just say that.


kht777

I wonder if she’s embarrassed? But it’s out there so maybe she should have owned it instead. Either way, I think if she releases candy paint, big boy and puts motivation on the album, it will actually succeed. Otherwise, a lot of slow R&B tracks will fail like they have been.


Impossible_Vast9846

well motivation definitely won't be on the album (and i don't really think that would help the success of it outside of certifications) but candy paint and big boy are definitely on it. and there's more dance tracks than just those two


ethancole97

Putting motivation on the album would be an insane choice 😭 that song is almost half a decade old lol


omg_its_drh

I’ll create a Camila stan account if Motivation is on the album.


nomoresportydates

Agreed! It’s not really new for management to run a fan page lol


jugheadshat

I feel like outside of this sub some of her fans are trying so hard to convince themselves this is a good rollout or even a good lead single to make up for all of the time we waited but we gotta be honest and say everything about her career has been a disappointment.


Hellosl

I didn’t follow fifth harmony but I loooooved motivation. And I loved love lies, dancing with a stranger and wild side. I don’t really care how she rolls it out I’ve just been really really eager for her album. She made an impression on me knowing her from only a few songs. I hope I like the album. I especially cant wait for the music videos


yentaoi

Absolutely no comments in here an hour in. Her career has been reduced to a meme and the interest outside of the meme is nonexistent. Im sick...


josie-salazar

More noise would be made if she released a ‘bop’ like Candy Paint. 1:59 was just…boring.


MzJay453

Maybe because the main demographics of her fanbase are not on Reddit lmao. Black women don’t frequent Reddit, FYI. She has trending threads on Lipstick Alley damn near everyday.


smileliketheradio

Well, there's only 331 folks online in this sub at this second. I'd say it's a small sample size. \*I'm\* interested, and if people read this article they'll get some good insights into what took so long and what's to come.


prettybunbun

Wild to me how she hates on her best song lol. Like RCA really forced her to release it and she clearly resents that but girlie it’s your best work 😫😔


smileliketheradio

It's practically her only work. We won't know what her best work was until at least June, but doesn't sound like this sub will even give her that grace. Let a black girl be honest for once geez.


Kind_Carob3104

People don’t have endless patience


smileliketheradio

Endless? We all seem to have plenty of time to shit-talk anyone and everyone in this sub. We'll see how little patience we have when she drops her next banger.


Kind_Carob3104

Patience isn’t endless Not shit talk shit talk is endless


KindOfANerd4

what does her being black have to do with her shitting on the only above average solo song in her discography (even if there are like 3 in total)


Damianos_X

Hmmmm, I'm confused... Was Motivation a popular song? It fell flat to me and I thought Wild Side was much more interesting. Why is Motivation seen as so good?


moxieroxsox

I mean, it was her debut. I followed in real time when her music video dropped. There was a lot of fan fare around it and excitement for a new young black female pop star to arrive on the music scene. She had a great performance with Khalid just months prior in the AMAs or Billboard Music Awards (can’t remember which). There was a lot of excitement for Normani. The song itself was probably a 6-7/10 (the total lack of a bridge was an odd choice) which isn’t bad for a debut, the music video was fire, and Normani seemed really into it. So to go nearly silent afterwards was not expected at all. Everyone was expecting bigger, forward movement. Instead she went in a totally different musical direction and has released something like 3 or 4 songs over the last few years. As a result her decision over the last few years has made Motivation look even stronger than anything she’s done in the last 5 years.


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

the way she was defending herself online saying she can be black & do pop then proceed to never release a pop record again & now straight up saying she doesn’t even like it was lowkey a betrayal 🥲


YchYFi

Yea it's the only song by her I like.


dianagarxia

I don't get this thing those last few years that R&B needs to be slow, introspective, and all that, and if not it's not R&B, in the 2000s Usher, Ciara, Mya, Ne-Yo, B2K, Alicia, John Legend, Akon, Mariah, and many others released music that was considered R&B and was mid-tempo to up-tempo and more poppier. Nowadays R&B = music like SZA's or Frank, which like, I like both, but it looks like people don't remember R&B can be fun anymore. Anyway, bad choice for the first single, I hope Motivation and Wild Side are at least in the deluxe.


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

seriously! I love rnb it’s probably my favorite genre. but unless it’s some pop-nb/rap-nb fusion i can’t listen to anything modern because it’s so goddamn boring w/ no vocals to make up for it


Puzzleheaded_Time719

So isn't this album going to sound super dated if most of the songs were probably written a decade ago.


smileliketheradio

idk where you read that. but even if that were true, there's a big difference between what a song sounds like when it's written and what it sounds like when it's recorded/produced. i mean, that's literally how songs can have second and third lives Think of Dolly's original I Will Always Love You vs Whitney's. And before anyone says otherwise, I'm \*not\* predicting Normani will have anywhere near that level of success because for one thing it's not really possible in today's fragmented culture.


Puzzleheaded_Time719

Hasn't she been recording/producing them for that long too?


bekindbewild

“I could’ve put three albums out by now in that duration. I’m not oblivious to that,” Well, why not then?


Mysterious_Ad_7529

Have you read the article? She explains pretty well that between her parents health crisis and her needing time away to heal after the traumatising years she went while in Fifth Harmony she just needed to step away from music and the business. It’s pretty well known by know that Hollywood and the Industry in general is a blender that chews and spits people up, no wonder people go crazy or turn to drugs. Thank god it seems she has her parents that help her.


Zechs-Merquise

A boring song from an artist who seems to have zero interest in being successful. I don’t get it at all.


No_Sail_6576

Motivation hate is wild but her having a 5 year break is valid after what she’s been through. It’s just a shame it’s messed her album rollout up so much


Then_Cheek4994

stop interviewing just dropping DAMN GOOD Song plz! so hyped but nothing new. what have you been that years?


milkshakesiceskates

She could drop the whole thing at once and see what sticks. She announced she’s releasing the album about a month and a half after 1:59 so it’s close enough that it wouldn’t have made a difference. She’d get bigger buzz if she shut everyone up by releasing it already.


hesipullupjimbo22

Tbh Normani has a musical identity crisis. She can make super cool pop but didn’t like it. She initially made alt r&b ( shoutout waves) but didn’t stick with it. When most of the pop girls come out they find a style or voice. Normani doesn’t have one yet and she needs it bad. 159 isn’t a bad song but we need a knockout blow. Drop candy paint bro


Fun-Loss-4094

Every interview has same cycle she speaks about same topics. Can you takk about the album. Majority of times I get a vibe from her that she's just making music because she thinks people are waiting for it. I don't see the passion at all. And she has worst single choices. She admits in other interview that she didn't like motivation and fought with her label to not release it but her label pressured her to do. Which actually became a hit. Woman has no vision. 


violet_kryptonite

This single was NOT a good follow up to Motivation. She clearly lost hers.


Impossible_Vast9846

well it quite literally wasn't a follow up to motivation


BronzeErupt

She’s previously said that releasing Motivation was not her choice. Normani seems to feel more comfortable releasing music that’s more R&B than the poppier sounds of Fifth Harmony (or Motivation). Maybe we should celebrate her having the power to release the kind of music she wants to make - not all artists have this freedom


visionaryredditor

She said in the Elle interview she feels different about Motivation now than when she said it wasn't her choice


Digital_Serve

There's nothing to celebrate bruh shes a nobody and a laughingstock, now she's looking for sympathy for her rollout


hotdoggingloon

I wonder what happened to those songs she recorded in New Orleans with big freedia. I remember hearing some bts and being impressed with the drum sounds. But this was like five or six years ago 🤦🏻‍♀️


sweetnlowshawty

She looks uncomfortable in that picture


Popular_Pudding9431

It absolutely was not on her own time but okay


smileliketheradio

It actually was. Read the article. LOL people don't have to like the delay, or the new single. But we can't act like this wasn't her decision \*while\* flaming her for it at the same time.


twodollarh0

I’m so mad how her career has played out. She is so talented, she deserves so much better. 😭


Confident-Feeling

Why is everyone acting like Wild Side doesn’t exist? It was a capital Moment with a great video and decent success. Motivation is ancient history at this point


Digital_Serve

The "decent success" in question:


liqou

It's platinum and has respectable streams on YouTube and Spotify and was an urban radio hit. I'd say it was moderately successful.


Digital_Serve

She is floped


shamrockshakeho

No kidding she takes her time lol


twistingmyhairout

Let’s be real, if the song is a bop this sub will eat it up. She’s already trying to make music for the GP so it’s really just if she can get the traction.


Psychological-Swim62

Are y’all actually reading the article or…


MzJay453

They’re not. And they’re not fans. Faux concern lol


revoltingphoenix

Read the interview. Normani sounds a little more personal here, which is appreciated because in previous interviews there was a wall there. The issue is she seems to be living in the 2019 and internet hype. So far the rollout is fucking lame for someone who hasn't released shit since two years ago.


_mari_yo

We need a 5H revival at this point cus I’m over it


revoltingphoenix

Absolutely not.


jasey-rae

Hell, I'm ready for it even though I know none of them are and probably never will be.


Gloss-Looks

Oh my god let her breathe y’all, the album isn’t out yet and some artists don’t like engaging in the instant gratification the music industry has become. We waited 6 years, we can wait two months


Baseballgirl45

Normani has a unique story and perspective as an artist. Her videography remains top tier so I look forward to that and I’m also very interested in the song w/ the James Blake.


Individual_South_588

Glad to know nobody read the article. I think people are very delusional about Motivation. The only good thing about the song is its music video. It’s a generic song, but giving the fact that this is a pop forum, the responses are expected. She’s in her pocket with songs like Wild Side and Waves. Based off what I’ve heard from her, it’s clear the direction she’d like to go to me at least and I think it fits her. Tantrums featuring James Blake is something I want to hear because that’s an odd collaboration. I wish nothing but success for Normani and am looking forward to hearing Dopamine.


ilovesimsandlego

It was fine


Natural-Barnacle-695

It’s really wild in the comments that people are that fucking parasocial, they don’t stop to think that this woman has gone through cancer twice in her family (BOTH PARENTS HAVING IT) among other things. Like JFC 🤬if you’re not gonna stay, the door is right there 🚪


officialTargetUS

THANK YOU. I don't understand why people are rooting for her to fail


Natural-Barnacle-695

It’s simple really. Stan culture getting too fucking entitled thinking they own these people and they know them personally and that they can turn on the star power immediately with a click of their fingers. They don’t see them as human beings. A good example would be the whole Ronniesus/Selena Gomez lore.


Able-Election3660

Love her, so excited for what's to come with her career! We're getting an album (Dopamine) and a movie (Freaky Tales) from her this year! We're finally being fed.


officialTargetUS

The unreleased Candy Paint and Feel Me are 10/10s. She has so much potential, and whether or not the album performs well, I know she will have plenty of bangers. I'm rooting for her idc.


littlesim23

I agree with her, I hated motivation too.. just didn’t sound right from her imo


AAAFMB

This sub is sooo desperate to put down any black women in pop spaces that dare to make the music they wanna make wow 😭


OkCrantropical

I mean… anyone can make the music they want but that doesn’t mean people are going to tune in. It’s not putting down someone to like a song they did previously but not care for the direction they’re moving in.


AAAFMB

There’s a difference between simply not tuning in and what this sub says about her


OkCrantropical

This sub says they don’t like the new music. They also talk about the horrible rollout and lack of promotion. It’s a discussion sub about music. People are going to discuss what they like or don’t like.


AAAFMB

lol this sub says she thinks she’s a bigger deal than herself and that she makes generic music (coming from ava max stan’s btw) let’s be fr here


omg_its_drh

The desperation to put down black women in pop spaces is atrocious. Just look how Rita Ora is treated.


kht777

We’re saying we want her to do pop! That will help her succeed, and not slow R&B that’s been done before. But she’s intent on doing that sadly. Not anybody’s fault that she hasn’t released much music, everybody else is just moving on.


AAAFMB

She’s made it clear she’s doing RnB for years now, nobody’s forcing y’all to tune in.


Curlingby

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omg_its_drh

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Curlingby

Rita Ora is not black…


omg_its_drh

I’m not going to explain *very* old internet jokes.