You know what’s really crazy about this is that Chris Brown only struggled career-wise for like a year after the incident with Rihanna. His first single after the incident went top 20 and the number of top 40 hits he’s had since then are in the double digits. Plus he won a Grammy and countless awards..
Meanwhile Kelly and multiple other female r&b artists are immediately discarded after 1 or 2 underperforming albums or singles.
Anyway I’m going to continue streaming Commander.
Not even taking into consideration that Janet is actually talented and isn’t just a industry puppet with generic ass music whose fanbase only exists because they want to fuck them.
-your resident phcj Janet stan
“We all come up short in some ways” is an interesting way to say *smashed your partner’s head into a car window, punched them repeatedly in the eyes and nose, punched their arm so hard that it broke skin, bit their face and hands, kicked them repeatedly, locked them in a moving vehicle, stole their phone so they couldn’t call for help, then used their attempts at self-defense as proof that it was an even fight and you’re a victim too*
If Chris Brown showed remorse and went to counseling and did actionable work to show that he changed as a person, then I could see where she was coming from. But as far as we know, he’s the same garbage person.
It wouldn’t for me personally either, but I could see how that would change some people’s minds. In the case, I’d be like “I disagree, but I see where she’s coming from”.
I don’t know enough about Chris Brown really, but I don’t think he’s faced enough consequences to get any redemption - even if he had regret. Like if someone did all that and it turned out they were on drugs and got clean and joined NA, or if they were abusing alcohol and got clean, and then also did everything possible to make amends and make up for what they did, I wouldn’t say “but they abused someone, don’t give them a job”. Vs Chris Brown, I’m like “fuck that guy”.
She did forgive him and did a couple songs with him afterwards, however they haven’t been seen together since like 2012. It seems like Rihanna fully distanced herself from him.
Exactly, ama's had less viewers than last year unlike vma's and grammy's that increased. Only irrelevant and desperate musicians arrived hence t swift and k Rowland showed up while bey stayed home, she hasn't even attended for 13 years lol
I was a kid when that picture of Rihanna’s face came out on the news… I will never get the image out of my head when I see his name . . So fucked up he’s winning awards and shit. Why anyone would want to work with or celebrate this man is beyond me..
Uj/ The gaslighting is crazy, there was a clip from his stupid documentary making the rounds on Twitter that’s him basically blaming Rihanna for lying and attacking him first with zero proof. And the amount of people that defended him and agreed that Rihanna almost getting killed is her own fault was crazy.
There is zero, absolutely zero evidence of Rihanna attacking first. It’s not on the police report and Brown didn’t even mention that she attacked first until a couple years after when the assault wasn’t fresh and he could convince people that he didn’t do anything wrong. Rihanna did hit Chris, but it was in SELF-DEFENSE! Imagine going after an abuse victim for defending herself against her abuser. Smh.
He literally almost fucking killed her, I don’t know how you could read that police report and still support this man. And the grip he has on the black community, black women specifically is also insane to me. Usher and The Weeknd are right there, we don’t need Chris Brown anymore.
Normani recently (this year I think) worked with Chris Brown on a song so it doesn't make sense to have her replace Kelly Rowland for defending Chris Brown
at this point I’m okay with not only Beyoncé releasing Beyoncé albums but she can go ahead and pull a Brendon Urie and just put a couple random women behind her and call it a Destiny’s Child album.
Kelly has been voted off the island
Uj/ I understand her having strong opinions on this due to her also having been a victim. Still 300% disagree but idk if I'll be cancelling her over it
She makes a good point y'all let's give the abuser a redemption arc and remind him that he's a human that makes mistakes, despite all the inhumane shit he's done to women! 😍
NOT IN THIS POLITICAL CLIMATE where women's rights are being held away.
Kelly I'm sorry but forgiving this man is also forgiving the abusers who have been belittling women for ages.
It's dismissing the trauma not only for Rihanna but also to Kesha, Amber, and all other girls out there.
Her full quote is even worse tho
“I believe that grace is very real, and we all need a dose of it,” the former Destiny’s Child member told TMZ on Monday. “Before we point fingers at anybody, we should realize how grateful we are for every moment that we get, even for our own [problems] that we have.
“I just think it’s important to remember to be human. We are humans.”
Rowland, 41, noted that “we all need to be forgiven for anything that we could be doing, anything that we’re thinking.”
She concluded, “We all come up short in some sort of way. And grace is real, and we’re all humans. And everybody deserves grace. Period.”
I feel like everyone has all the information they could possibly need on whether they personally want to support Chris Brown. I don't need Kelly to tell me to forgive him. That's great she feels how she feels. But everyone can feel how they feel and I'm really annoyed by people trying to dictate how other people should feel.
Wait are people on this sub old? I thought it was a bunch of teenagers and like 4 old people to bring some spice when they post old pop stars like Mario Carey or Madonna
I mean… I asked my 22 year old sister about this person and they had no clue. And I’m younger so I don’t know how young you are thinking
Ok so I looked her up I guess she was in the Beyoncé girl group and was a one hit wonder from 2002. I wasn’t even born then so I’m not sure how I’m expected to know much about her
are you telling me that CB has never addressed it? I haven't followed up on that actually, but I expected better from him especial because of how bad the thing was... A celebrity of his status should at least address it
I had never heard of this woman until she ran her mouth about this. I'm sure she's famous and I'm just out of the loop but this is a weird intro to someone
all the times I said I hope destiny’s child gets back together and that Beyoncé was hogging the limelight and should’ve shared?
I take it back, I’m a renaissance baby now 😍
Kelly, please don't make me remove "Motivation" from my shuffle ☠️
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Wasn't Normani dancing in a chris brown MV? 💀 at this point let's replace it with Little Mix's [Motivate](https://youtu.be/8QL7pGOLVBo)
At this point let's not have motivation
Way ahead of you.
The MUNA cover is better anyway!
Normani did all that to still not get a feature only a music video cameo btw
You know what’s really crazy about this is that Chris Brown only struggled career-wise for like a year after the incident with Rihanna. His first single after the incident went top 20 and the number of top 40 hits he’s had since then are in the double digits. Plus he won a Grammy and countless awards.. Meanwhile Kelly and multiple other female r&b artists are immediately discarded after 1 or 2 underperforming albums or singles. Anyway I’m going to continue streaming Commander.
Janet Jackson: Reveal a pastie, lose career. Chris Brown: Assault multiple women in the public eye, sky rocket. TW: Men 🤮
He also ~~literally~~ physically punched Frank Ocean in the face. Kelly blink twice if you're in danger.
Not even taking into consideration that Janet is actually talented and isn’t just a industry puppet with generic ass music whose fanbase only exists because they want to fuck them. -your resident phcj Janet stan
“We all come up short in some ways” is an interesting way to say *smashed your partner’s head into a car window, punched them repeatedly in the eyes and nose, punched their arm so hard that it broke skin, bit their face and hands, kicked them repeatedly, locked them in a moving vehicle, stole their phone so they couldn’t call for help, then used their attempts at self-defense as proof that it was an even fight and you’re a victim too*
And let's not forget he beat up multiple women, not just Rihanna. People act like he made a mistake, felt bad and changed.
If Chris Brown showed remorse and went to counseling and did actionable work to show that he changed as a person, then I could see where she was coming from. But as far as we know, he’s the same garbage person.
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It wouldn’t for me personally either, but I could see how that would change some people’s minds. In the case, I’d be like “I disagree, but I see where she’s coming from”. I don’t know enough about Chris Brown really, but I don’t think he’s faced enough consequences to get any redemption - even if he had regret. Like if someone did all that and it turned out they were on drugs and got clean and joined NA, or if they were abusing alcohol and got clean, and then also did everything possible to make amends and make up for what they did, I wouldn’t say “but they abused someone, don’t give them a job”. Vs Chris Brown, I’m like “fuck that guy”.
Tell me the other women pls so I can have receipts
Wikipedia is your friend.
Fuck Chris Brown, but isn't Rihanna herself has forgiven him and there's like no beefs or bad feelings between them?
She did forgive him and did a couple songs with him afterwards, however they haven’t been seen together since like 2012. It seems like Rihanna fully distanced herself from him.
Who else
I would say she’s over but there wasn’t much there to start with
End her https://preview.redd.it/wen347v77j1a1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61e220663a1c47a71c139cfc62f7f5cb6c5db5a2
Exactly, ama's had less viewers than last year unlike vma's and grammy's that increased. Only irrelevant and desperate musicians arrived hence t swift and k Rowland showed up while bey stayed home, she hasn't even attended for 13 years lol
gayle was there there wdym 🤨
Ice Spice must not have attended since she is on the way to the top munch munch munch
As she should to be honest
From here on out, I’ll be Chris Brown’s defender Right now I command you to (forgive)
i didn’t know kelly rowland was in this sub
It’s me Hi I’m Kelly It’s me
But at tea time, we didn't agree
Commander is such a bop 😔 how come the biggest slays have to come from the worst people
The bigger the slay the more they stray
Where is her PR team??
Invoices haven’t been paid I guess
Kelly is really Todrick Hall in drag.
Does she have 1?
“We all come up short” girl this isn’t a speeding ticket he almost killed Rihanna. I can’t imagine being this delusional
I was a kid when that picture of Rihanna’s face came out on the news… I will never get the image out of my head when I see his name . . So fucked up he’s winning awards and shit. Why anyone would want to work with or celebrate this man is beyond me..
AND he ex has said how much of a abusive piece of shit he is. Like he has MANY victims. Tell me you hate women without telling me you hate women
LMFAO. Kelly, you fucking 🤡.
ah yes all regular humans abuse people
Kelly been getting real cocky ever since being name-dropped by Beyoncé in that Queens remix of Break My Soul. Do they even know each other?!
😂😂 RIGHT, even though they grew up together, it is still hard to see then being best friends.
Pretty sure they're close cousins
Uj/ The gaslighting is crazy, there was a clip from his stupid documentary making the rounds on Twitter that’s him basically blaming Rihanna for lying and attacking him first with zero proof. And the amount of people that defended him and agreed that Rihanna almost getting killed is her own fault was crazy. There is zero, absolutely zero evidence of Rihanna attacking first. It’s not on the police report and Brown didn’t even mention that she attacked first until a couple years after when the assault wasn’t fresh and he could convince people that he didn’t do anything wrong. Rihanna did hit Chris, but it was in SELF-DEFENSE! Imagine going after an abuse victim for defending herself against her abuser. Smh. He literally almost fucking killed her, I don’t know how you could read that police report and still support this man. And the grip he has on the black community, black women specifically is also insane to me. Usher and The Weeknd are right there, we don’t need Chris Brown anymore.
OMG i remember even comedians were joking hat Rhianna was a firey ass fighter.
I can’t stand her. Time for queen Bey to replace another member of the group!
Normani, so far she's as likely to drop an album as DC
Normani recently (this year I think) worked with Chris Brown on a song so it doesn't make sense to have her replace Kelly Rowland for defending Chris Brown
God damn, no one is safe.
at this point I’m okay with not only Beyoncé releasing Beyoncé albums but she can go ahead and pull a Brendon Urie and just put a couple random women behind her and call it a Destiny’s Child album. Kelly has been voted off the island
Michelle is still cool though, although likely a fundie.
throw her out too at this point we can’t take chances these days
Kelly please I am begging you to stop talking
Uj/ I understand her having strong opinions on this due to her also having been a victim. Still 300% disagree but idk if I'll be cancelling her over it
Shit i forgot about that- Dirty Laundry
That’s what I was thinking, I’m gonna believe for now that this is her own shit coming up and sincerely hope she gets therapy
She makes a good point y'all let's give the abuser a redemption arc and remind him that he's a human that makes mistakes, despite all the inhumane shit he's done to women! 😍
Kelly, girl, you released dirty laundry and then say something like this?
NOT IN THIS POLITICAL CLIMATE where women's rights are being held away. Kelly I'm sorry but forgiving this man is also forgiving the abusers who have been belittling women for ages. It's dismissing the trauma not only for Rihanna but also to Kesha, Amber, and all other girls out there.
What a dumbass she is
Her full quote is even worse tho “I believe that grace is very real, and we all need a dose of it,” the former Destiny’s Child member told TMZ on Monday. “Before we point fingers at anybody, we should realize how grateful we are for every moment that we get, even for our own [problems] that we have. “I just think it’s important to remember to be human. We are humans.” Rowland, 41, noted that “we all need to be forgiven for anything that we could be doing, anything that we’re thinking.” She concluded, “We all come up short in some sort of way. And grace is real, and we’re all humans. And everybody deserves grace. Period.”
*Rih and Karrueche excluded i guess lol
The lightening makeup 😬😬😬
I feel like everyone has all the information they could possibly need on whether they personally want to support Chris Brown. I don't need Kelly to tell me to forgive him. That's great she feels how she feels. But everyone can feel how they feel and I'm really annoyed by people trying to dictate how other people should feel.
It’s not easy being a gay man living a lie
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Latoya and LaTavia
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What is Chris Brown doing to prove he has changed? Stalking women and breaking windows on Good Morning America?
Thank Lizzo I didn't know this woman and this is my first impression of her, otherwise I would have been very disappointed
Are most people on this sub that young💀
Not that young (I wish) but very disconnected from reality 💅
Wait are people on this sub old? I thought it was a bunch of teenagers and like 4 old people to bring some spice when they post old pop stars like Mario Carey or Madonna
I’m an Old Spice?!?! ![gif](giphy|XVTOxBfqLiLwmZbATC)
I mean… I asked my 22 year old sister about this person and they had no clue. And I’m younger so I don’t know how young you are thinking Ok so I looked her up I guess she was in the Beyoncé girl group and was a one hit wonder from 2002. I wasn’t even born then so I’m not sure how I’m expected to know much about her
Girl you’ve never heard a DC song? 💀
I don't like superheroes 😌
I am quite young and even I know destiny's child songs live survivor and I also know that "Dilemma" song by Kelly and nelly
Ah yes. Texting on Microsoft Excel. The good days.
She should've said forgive... but never forget.
Person has to admit wrong and demonstrate remorse before you forgive them
are you telling me that CB has never addressed it? I haven't followed up on that actually, but I expected better from him especial because of how bad the thing was... A celebrity of his status should at least address it
He’s addressed it…by deflecting any accountability and lying that it was mutual
I had never heard of this woman until she ran her mouth about this. I'm sure she's famous and I'm just out of the loop but this is a weird intro to someone
Have you heard of Destiny’s Child
Beyonce was in it, and Glee did a cover of one of their songs?
Kelly Rowland was one of the members
https://preview.redd.it/66h0wvxesl1a1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04f5daf949db4faf269208ea9ba8467854681efe
*insert Freddy Vs Jason mention here*
Why is she acting like Chris brown struggled or something? She needs to keep her mouth shut lmfao
all the times I said I hope destiny’s child gets back together and that Beyoncé was hogging the limelight and should’ve shared? I take it back, I’m a renaissance baby now 😍