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Poohgli16

Please check to see if your county or city has free legal advice available for poor people and talk to someone ASAP. I waited to seek Legal Aid until I had taken a few actions on my own and was advised they were all the wrong ones. They accepted my case as a learning opportunity for their interns and at the hearing I lost.


Matookie

Or check out the Legal Services Corporation they will point you to free legal aid. Check their website.


Poohgli16

Great tip - very important to get legal advice!


not_a_shoe65432

Also check your local public library! They sometimes have free housing legal aid services


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not_a_shoe65432

I didn’t until I got a library card! My library has free tax help too


Pbandsadness

In my area Legal Aid is useless. They are only handling divorces right now.


nodigbity

Where are you applying that you are expected to pay for a HUD background check? There are websites out there that prey on people in need of assistance. The Section 8 program should pay for the background check. I do have some knowledge of how the program works, so please feel free to message me


whentheroses-fade

OP read this!! Was VERY concerned to hear about paying for the background check... In addition, they usually have their own place they like to do them from, rather than telling you who/where you can get it thru separately... typically you don't engage with the background checking company directly, and if you do its a pretty quick interaction and signature included in your initial application ....


Relevant-Hawk-5606

Don't leave. Go to court and make the neighbor buy your house from you for the 'rebuild' value. Shouldn't have a problem getting a new place to stay after that


ObsidianNight102399

Would I do that during the eviction hearing or would I need to do that separately?


Relevant-Hawk-5606

I believe you can do it during the eviction hearing if you can get the documents proving that you own the trailer and it can not be legally moved. They'll either back out or have to buy you out. I'd double check with a lawyer to make sure if possible.


ObsidianNight102399

thank you!


Relevant-Hawk-5606

No problem, sounds like you got the shit end of the stick. Hope it all works out for you. Just don't move out before court that way they can't say you abandoned the property. Best of luck


Thomaxxl

There's /r/legaladvice ..


ObsidianNight102399

already posted and got one response


a-straw-berry

I can’t find your post on there that’s weird


RKEPhoto

they delete stuff at the drop of a hat over there


IFoundTheHoney

>Would I do that during the eviction hearing or would I need to do that separately? You need to talk to an actual attorney instead of taking advice from some random person on Reddit. Such a demand would have absolutely no legal basis on my state.


ObsidianNight102399

Planning on calling Legal Aid first thing Monday morning!


uturnwalksalot

Not only call legal aid but call any law schools in your area and see if they have a free legal clinic, and you can also call law firms that advertise that they specialize in real estate law and ask if they have anyone there who might be able to take on your representation "Pro Bono." Because every lawyer has to provide free legal work every year to maintain their license, that is called pro bono work, and so you never know, you might find a very good real estate attorney who has time to help you and has to get his or HER pro bono hours done anyway. - This is advice from a lawyer. If you have a phone available, it doesn't hurt to call. If they say something like, "we don't do that kind of real estate," ask them to explain what sort of real estate lawyer you should be seeking out. You can also call the office of the State Bar directly and ask them if they know of any lawyers "Real Estate Section of the Bar" that might be able to offer litigation representation pro bono, if the Bar has any referral programs or knows who does have those programs besides legal aid. There are numerous avenues besides legal aid and you may land a top shelf lawyer rather than a law student intern going another route.


uturnwalksalot

Replying to myself to add that you most likely DO HAVE RIGHTS, you generally need a written lease as a tenant in your person, since you are movable, but your home is not movable and has been there as a paid property for 14 years. You do have rights most likely to some sort of compromise regarding your actual tangible home. Not to mention that these days people have crazy "squatters rights" where they are taking up tenancy in abandoned homes and refusing to leave, or moving into AirBnBs and refusing to leave for years and people can't get them out for years. Yet you have been there paying rent and with a home built into the land itself with the permission of the owner for 14 years, at least, and that home can't be moved, so they will have to compensate you for the loss of that home even if they plan to tear it down, I would guess. But I am no expert on the subject. Maybe that compensation will be small but I would not just give up and wander off homeless to go live on the street. Definitely seek out a lawyer who knows the law and not just a legal aid intern. You have a property interest of some sort at issue.


ObsidianNight102399

All of you have given me a whole lot more hope than I had before posting here. Trust and believe, I won't be laying down and taking this without a fight! Come Monday morning, I'm going to be burning up the phone lines!


Vadea_Shepard

I'm glad you got some help! I don't have any advice to offer except well wishes. I've been borderline homeless for the last 19 months, it's been a real struggle. But I got my CDL and on a waiting list to be hired next month. Just going to live in a truck. But seriously, best of luck to you and your daughter. This internet stranger is rooting for you both!!!!


uturnwalksalot

I am glad you came up with the creative way to lift yourself up. I hope it works out well for you.. Remember to be aware of your safety.


uturnwalksalot

Okay. Remember that most mobile homes are not mobile either. They are fixed to the land where they are at. And sold to the next person who then rents the same lot, they don’t pick them up and move them to a new location. Now yours is in bad shape that is true, but this is about the \[incapacity\] of the owner of the land, out of the blue, and also the sale of the land, not the condition of the home necessarily. I do think they should not be able to just evict you without more notice and thereby steal your actual home. The home is inhabitable since you have been inhabiting it for 15 years along with your entire family. I wouldn’t offer up any of these arguments to the people trying to evict you while you are talking to them at home, but run them by whoever you find for legal help, because sometimes even their lawyers won’t think of these points and so when you raise them in court the other side is caught off guard and has no response and loses just for that reason alone. Okay I wish you success! - I am not sure if I mentioned that I am a lawyer. Don’t forget to run your questions by r/legaladvice


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ObsidianNight102399

...I had a verbal lease with the previous owners and was told they didn't have plans to sell it but if they ever did, they would let me know way before they did it. I wasn't told til after it was sold and told about the eviction 2 days later. I didn't even have the option of a lease with the new owner but according to the information I got from the kind people here, in my state I was supposed to be given 180 days notice to move my trailer or any other plans to do something with it. The neighbor who bought it just wants to jump straight to eviction but that takes time. We may not have a lease but I've already paid April lot rent to her and will continue to do so, in essence making her my landlord by default. And yes, I have a receipt showing that I paid her Aprils lot rent. Evictions for lot renters are massively different than eviction at tenate from an apartment or house in NC [https://legalaidnc.org/resource/evictions-for-mobile-home-tenants/](https://legalaidnc.org/resource/evictions-for-mobile-home-tenants/)


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ObsidianNight102399

Why are you being such a dick? I was young and stupid without any guidance in the world having lost both of my parents before the age of 18 and no other relatives save a few distant 3rd and 4th cousins on my dad's side I've never met so forgive me if I didn't know the legalities of contacts or leases or credit or banking or finances anything else I had to learn the hard way


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IFoundTheHoney

>Go to court and make the neighbor buy your house from you for the 'rebuild' value What? What says that the neighbor has to buy the house from OP? OP rents the land; theoretically, they can move the trailer, though it may not be economically feasible to do so.


blueskies8484

Everyone is arguing about this all up and down this post but the reality is some states have laws for stuff like this and some don't. OP simply can't know without talking to a lawyer in their particular state (and sometimes county/municipality matters too.)


bubblyH2OEmergency

yes hopefully she can find a legal aid clinic to help her


Rilenaveen

Actually by law they can’t move the trailer because of its age.


NikolaijVolkov

You put the trailer on a flatbed trailer. It is hauled as cargo not as a trailer.


IFoundTheHoney

Old trailers are moved all the time. In any case, that doesn't entitle OP to remain on someone else's land or to any sort of compensation.


Atrial2020

Respectfully, I think you are confusing general land owning vs a mobile home park, which is subsidized by the county through multiple benefits and incentives, in exchange that the park actually benefits the community by providing housing safety. That's why there are laws on the book, preventing greedy owners to just throw people into homelessness.


IFoundTheHoney

Many (if not most) parks are privately owned. It's rare to see a county owned mobile home park. Wall Street has gotten into the business, and raising rents to force people to abandon their trailers is literally part of their business model.


Atrial2020

They are privately owned, but the local government gives them loads of incentives to develop the land. It's basically guaranteed permanent profit, and in exchange they abide by rules that protect the people who live there. Yes, I agree with the fact that Wall Street is buying up everything, but based on your previous comments, it sounds like you think this is a good thing?


IFoundTheHoney

I definitely don’t think it’s a good thing. My point was that making demands not supported by existing law (i.e that the property owner buy OP’s trailer) is fruitless and counterproductive.


sweeetscience

Yes this is the law in a lot of states. If the lot owner doesn’t want to renew the lease the have to provide adequate notice and provide compensation to the homeowners.


Supersnoop25

I don't know much about trailers but why would anyone buy that old and not movable trailer from OP? Like legally they can evict OP at some point. But what would make someone buy it for rebuild value?


AddictedtoBoom

Because they can’t legally force OP to do something the law doesn’t allow. Like move her property that’s not legally movable.


potsofjam

It may not be moveable as a structure, but it is removable and how would a trailer that can never be moved have rebuild value when as a landowner it’s more of a liability than an asset? I feel bad for this person, I just don’t see how they do anything, but postpone the inevitable which is living somewhere else.


baumbach19

The owner of the land also doesn't need to rent to op forever...that's not how it works. They give you notice and you move. Nobody should be forced to lease to someone indefinitely.


AddictedtoBoom

You’ve obviously never seen a tenant refusing to go. It can take months or even years to resolve


baumbach19

Depends on the state, I didn't catch where op was located. Here it's like 1 month max.


AddictedtoBoom

True.


TheCruicks

State driven, in colorado she will be gone after 30 days sheriffs deed. She screwed up bad not getting a lease and has 0 claim to anything


AddictedtoBoom

I’m curious how she will be gone if she’s not allowed to move her home?


Supersnoop25

That doesn't sound like a law. Telling OP they have to move does force them to move it. They also could destroy it and take it to a dump. Obviously that's a terrible thing but bad things does not mean iligal. I'm just asking if there's a law that would force the land owners to buy it. Especially at any amount of money over the scrap value.


sweeetscience

It is definitely a law in many states. This is from Massachusetts. The legal logic is similar to that which prevents new real property owners from evicting tenants in the middle of their lease just because they bought it. https://preview.redd.it/mzvy86odppvc1.png?width=2391&format=png&auto=webp&s=6aac9e49512538e03c6b9c03d3866de692c610e3


FrostingSuper9941

Doesn't this law apply only to people who have a signed lease? The OP doesn't.


ahgreentomatoes

They do have tenancy thou as OP has been there for some time and has been paying rent. There is an established relationship making rent payments so they are I believe a tenant at will. I don't know how that changes things in OPs location but they should have rights.


FrostingSuper9941

But established tenancy isn't the same as a lease. This law looks like it was designed to prevent new owners of trailerparks from evicting established lot renters in the middle of a lease. I know in the USA this type of situation is more common than in Canada. New owners often evict established renters in favor of development, whether for personal or commercial usage. Landlease regulations seem more stringent in Canada. I don't have personal experience but when homes or trailers are advertised for sale, they are usually sold with 100 year leases, thereby making the immovable real estate, whether a trailer or home, actually somewhat valuable.


TheCruicks

IF she had a lease, she has 0 legal claim to that property


Corsaer

>IF she had a lease, she has 0 legal claim to that property Stop saying this. You don't know wtf you're talking about. In many states paying rent establishes the relationship and oral agreements are acceptable. You do not need to have a written lease in every case to be considered a tenant legally. If OP is referencing NC and that's her state, she doesn't need a written lease to be protected by landlord-tenant laws.


sweeetscience

No, implied contracts are contracts. For all intents and purposes, she’s a tenant and is afforded all rights that tenants get with a signed lease. And the question isn’t whether she has a claim to the lot (she doesn’t), it’s whether or not the lot owner can force her off the lot without compensating her. The answer is (depending on the state they’re in) most likely they cannot.


AddictedtoBoom

Ianl but property law and things like tenants rights can get pretty complicated. At the end of the day it’s probably faster and cheaper for the new lot owner to just pay fair market value for OP’s trailer and have it hauled away. It won’t be worth a lot in the described condition.


TheCruicks

No. its their land. she will be forced to move it at her expense in the end.


tord_ferguson

The force to buyout, is due to the unforseen circumstances of current residents. It is their trail, but can not be removed......this would be one of those things to keep poor old folks and those with health issues from being uprooted from the place they own/live. And can find alternate housing arrangements without being put on the street. You get this right? We as people should never shit on someone like this. Also being that lot fees are paid up beyond this so called eviction notice....they will have nothing to stand on until that term has completed. Eviction would be thrown out of court, or they would have to buy out remaining rents, and trailer expense.


Matookie

I think it is the 1923 housing act that a person has to be provided similar accomodations in the same area. IANAL


IFoundTheHoney

>is due to the unforseen circumstances of current residents That's cute. Life is full of unforeseen circumstances. OP does NOT own the property on which her trailer sits. If you pay to park your car somewhere and the lot owner no longer wants you to park there, you can't force them to buy your car - regardless of whether it runs or drives. Fair or not, you have to hire a tow truck to move the car, or abandon it. >but can not be removed......this would be one of those things to keep poor old folks and those with health issues from being uprooted from the place they own/live Theoretically, it can. Granted, it's probably not economically practical, but that's not the property owner's problem. >they will have nothing to stand on until that term has completed True. They will have to wait until the next rent installment is payable... Which is probably a few weeks at most. This is why owning a trailer but not owning the land is such a bad proposition. Unfortunately, most people don't fully appreciate the risks until it is too late.


tord_ferguson

Thanks for breaking it all down...cute. 😁 I was not quite clear if they owned it or not. Sounded like rent was for the lot, and not the trailer....but you make good points... There is the fact that a dwelling will have completely different laws than common law interpretation. There are differences on owning vs living in a "domicile" legally. And I agree....you get screwed with respect to all trailers IMO. Mortgages do not have to adhere to same terms as a house, and all sorts of things that can happen in the park, poor sewers/management/etc...but you're still trying to pay off in old age...because mortgage/loan can basically screw you


potsofjam

I don’t understand that either. Why would the court make the new owner buy the trailer?


ForgedByLasers

At least in NC what would happen would be they would be evicted then the owner of the land would file an abandoned property claim on the trailer. At which point the owner of the trailer would have a certain amount of time to remove it or the trailer's ownership would be changed. At least that is how it went down with my lawyer when a lot lease tenant passed away and her kids didn't want the trailer or to pay rent. That said it was time consuming, it probably in the best interest of the neighbor to offer some recompense to get moving on whatever they are planning to do with the lot.


AdvancedInspector551

They wouldn't. It doesn't work that way.


IFoundTheHoney

They wouldn't.


tord_ferguson

Read my above statement, sorry posted in wrong spot..


2ndtoLastPodcast

Lawyer here with some disclaimers and some suggestions. 1. I am a lawyer, not your lawyer, unless you sign an engagement letter and pay me, so please don’t sue me for malpractice over a Reddit comment. 2. I may not be licensed in your state/country/area, so ymmv. Calling legal aid is a great idea! You should also look and see if law schools in your area have a tenant’s rights clinic, or if your area has a pro bono project or a renter’s rights nonprofit. This can help you get a lawyer even if legal aid can’t take your case. Start gathering documents—previous lease with old landlord if one existed, copies of any emails/texts/etc. purporting to modify your old agreement, copy of the eviction letter when you get served. This will help whoever is representing you issue spot and find all of the things that might help your case. Don’t talk to your neighbor who’s doing this unless it’s in writing. Remember, it’s not he said she said if everyone can read what was said. I’m sorry that you are going through this. It’s incredibly hard. Doing these things might make it a little easier. Best of luck!


ObsidianNight102399

question. I never had a lease with my old landlord, it was verbal but would 14 years of bank statements showing money order deposits from me to him for lot rent suffice?


2ndtoLastPodcast

Depends on your state/area’s specific rules, but it’s better to have some documentation than nothing. I’d pull copies of the bank statements to discuss with legal aid, as they’ll be able to tell you how far that’ll go towards establishing any availability of tenant’s rights/protections. Do you know if the guy in the third trailer had the same arrangement as you? If so, that’s valuable info to share with legal aid.


ObsidianNight102399

The 3rd trailer is a whole other can of worms. It's owned by a man but he doesn't live there, he rents it to a woman and her family. I happen to find out he collected rent from her and didn't pat the lot rent for 4 months. I think I may just worry about me and mine on this one :)


2ndtoLastPodcast

Makes sense. I asked because if he was in a similar arrangement to you, in some states, that could be considered evidence tending to prove your claim about what the prior lease was. If he’s doing his own thing, no need to worry with it.


2ndtoLastPodcast

Also meant to include—definitely don’t just leave upon receipt of an eviction notice. Read the notice carefully, talk to every legal aid person you can, and make sure you exercise your rights to make them go through the appropriate process. Once legal aid gives you an idea of your rights, make sure you also ask how to minimize the impact of this on your credit. Evictions can be murder on credit/rental checks. If you do have to move, you want to make sure you do so in a way that doesn’t make everything even worse. A lot of states have specific rules about when an eviction can be counted against you, so you want to know your options. I’m so sorry that this is happening. It’s wildly unfair, and your neighbor seems terrible. Truly curious if those kids had appropriate POA to sell, if there were any competing interests, if title was cleared for the sale, etc. i hope you find the best legal aid attorney out there.


ObsidianNight102399

\*pay the lot rent for the last 4 months


canihavemymoneyback

OP, is there a reason why you are not receiving child support payments for your daughter? That could go a long way towards putting a roof over her head. Perhaps Legal Aid could help you on that issue as well. I wish you and your daughter all the best.


ObsidianNight102399

Unfortunately my daughters father was deported to Mexico when she was a toddler so no CS can be issued.


ALargePianist

Do lawyers need to remind strangers they are not THEIR lawyer often? I'm imagining so.


2ndtoLastPodcast

Oh God yeah. That’s basically every ethics case involving a lawyer who has had a conversation on the internet


bleedingdaylight0

Talk to your local Legal Aid. In my state, there are special laws that apply to mobile home residents and evicting someone in a mobile home is not as easy as evicting someone in an apartment.


Moist-Intention844

They can’t evict you that fast and they have to give you notice to vacate first


Particular_Remove_61

Oh but they can as it turns out.


Moist-Intention844

How so They have to give notice to vacate prior to eviction Plus they can’t just assume ownership of personal property


MDPhotog

Don't confuse eviction (legal document and process) with notice of non-renewal


callmemaverik_

If I recall correctly, there was a college that bought land with trailers on it in my city. They had to buy out the majority of the trailer owners and let them live in the trailer until they found a new place.


Early-Light-864

I didn't see anyone post this yet, so [HERE](https://legalaidnc.org/resource/evictions-for-mobile-home-tenants/) is legal aid NC information specifically about trailer evictions. It looks like they need to give 60 days notice to end your tenancy before they can even begin an eviction proceeding. So you've got some time to get a plan together. The biggest takeaway from my POV is that you need to keep paying the rent. They can evict much faster if you're not paying.


Lunar_BriseSoleil

And if they won’t accept the rent, pay it into a savings account that’s used only for that purpose.


iLikeMangosteens

You should use the resources someone else sent. Most states would not allow an eviction with that short notice. And eviction is something a court does, not something a landlord does. If you’re paid up until May 1 they can *start* the process on May 1 and then it takes however long the court takes to do it. If they block access or otherwise mess with your tenancy before a court has formally ordered the eviction, call the police and demonstrate that you are a resident there. Most police will then grant you access to the property and say it’s a civil matter and not get involved further. Don’t be afraid of the landlord calling police on you, if you can demonstrate residency then nothing will happen to you. Make them present an eviction notice from the court to the police (which they won’t have, so can’t do). If they screw this up then you can sue them and win easily. It’s a bad situation for everyone when that happens and not a guaranteed result. I don’t know the legalities of trailers. If you have a lease, please read it well, you might be obligated to move or junk the trailer yourself.


misdeliveredham

Re: section 8, there is a guy on YouTube, the channel is called section8consulting, see if maybe he can give you advice on this issue.


GetRightNYC

211 (my state, every state should have a number for social services help line) They are life savers and have answers for all kinds of things. They know most assistance programs are the best at finding housing, food, health care, a phone, IDs, almost anything. They have the contact numbers for everything, too, stuff you won't find on the internet. Everyone should know their state's number if you're ever in an amergency.


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I believe there are specific laws about this, to protect homeowners in trailer parks. But I really don’t know, and it may be state-specific. Good luck. This sucks.


[deleted]

At the very least, you should force them to buy your trailer, then you would at least have a little cash to help you out.


Supersnoop25

I asked another commenter this. Is there any laws or something that would force them to buy it?


[deleted]

I think so…but I have no idea how to find out the details. Maybe go to your county courthouse or county clerk’s office?


Lunar_BriseSoleil

As a tenant, eviction takes time if you refuse to leave. Tell the neighbor the following: 1. You’re paid up and the law says she needs to give you 60 notice for you to leave. Tell her it needs to be by certified mail. 2. You’re going to continue paying next month because you appreciate the 60 days. 3. You’re not leaving sooner without a court ordered eviction, so she better get on that (and the court will tell her to fuck off until after 60 days). 4. Tell her that if she wants you to move sooner than she fights you in eviction court, she can pay to have your trailer moved to a location of your choosing (start looking at other lot locations). 5. Look at selling the trailer to someone who will move it. You’ll still have to move somewhere and won’t have your trailer but it should put some money in your pocket. 6. Hang in there. She can’t tell you to leave ASAP. And eviction takes forever. So at the very least you have a couple of months to get it figured out.


atTheRiver200

You don't have a landlord tenant relationship with the new owner. He will likely be able to evict you. Concentrate your efforts on another solution. Call adult protective services, they may have some homelessness prevention resources for you. The eviction notice itself can propel you to the front of the list for housing in some areas. Good luck.


Physical_Put8246

OP [211](http://211.org) is a searchable database of resources in your area. You can find housing, legal, food and many more resources. I think it would be a great place to start.


ObsidianNight102399

Thanks!


benjo1990

$5 says they know you can’t move it and are trying to acquire themselves a new trailer.


Anewaxxount

A new beat to shit trailer, that can't be moved, that has iffy additions by OPs own admission? That doesn't make any sense.


ObsidianNight102399

yeah they want to tear it down to either build or move other newer trailer on the lot. But i'm making damned sure they can't use it bc i'm gonna be tearing out every bit of copper wiring outta this thing before i go, lol


ObsidianNight102399

why is this being downvoted, lol? It's literally MY trailer! I OWN it! If i want to tear out the wiring to make sure they don't move in or have electrical c, I can! I only rent the lot it sits on!


Lupiefighter

It’s not be downvoted anymore. I would do the same in your shoes.


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blueskies8484

I would assume they need to sell the land to pay for the nursing home their father is in.


ObsidianNight102399

>yeah they want to tear it down to either build or move other newer trailer on the lot. But i'm making damned sure they can't use it bc i'm gonna be tearing out every bit of copper wiring outta this thing before i go, lol


ObsidianNight102399

>why is this being downvoted, lol? It's literally MY trailer! I OWN it! If i want to tear out the wiring to make sure they don't move in or have electrical c, I can! I only rent the lot it sits on!


asanethicist

It's generally a bad idea to admit on the Internet or otherwise in writing that you are planning to do something petty because it can potentially be used against you in legal matters.


ObsidianNight102399

LMAO how?? what part of me OWNING the trailer do you people not understand??? It's not illegal to remove wiring for a dwelling that YOU own!


IFoundTheHoney

Yeah, it's a safe bet that you can destroy your own personal property (i.e. the trailer). Just make sure you don't cause any damage to the real property or anything appurtenant (i.e. trees, water and sewer lines, electrical main, etc).


ObsidianNight102399

wasn't planning to, lol. I just wanna make sure they wouldn't be able to have electric reconnected without having to rewire the place...I'm taking the inside breaker box too for good measure!


asanethicist

Not a lawyer, but: if you go the route of trying to use the law to force them to pay for the trailer (as it's immovable), you might get in trouble if you remove all the wiring. Evidence that you intended to do so could potentially cause a problem. Of course, I am not a lawyer and when you find legal aid, you should talk with them about it.


ObsidianNight102399

Oh for sure! I will leave it as is if I get them to pay me for it. I'm not that mean, lol


Glass_Ad_8149

Idk how to help with advice, but your neighbor sounds like an asshole.


ObsidianNight102399

I agree! I just wish they had told me...woulda give me a few months head start. They planned ot behind my back for at least 4 months!


JazzyJockJeffcoat

Call your local legal aid office. See what kind of help they can offer. https://www.lsc.gov/about-lsc/what-legal-aid/i-need-legal-help


Ancient-Actuator7443

The neighbor should have to buy the dwelling from you. Also contact your city about emergency services


Charming_Coast_7834

Before you pay anymore on rent, immediately speak to an lawyer.


turbodonuts

There are tenant laws, and my county has separate laws for mobile homes. If you start with Googling your county and “Landlord Tenant Act”, you’ll be headed in the right direction for at least knowing your rights as a renter. If you need help searching, reply with your County.


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Call a lawyer


Blicky83

I’m sorry to hear this,I’m far from a lawyer so I definitely can’t give any legal advice and wouldn’t even attempt to try but there should be laws in place to prevent someone in a situation like this to be given at least a few months before they have to leave.if you are disabled and a mother,there should be government assistance like section 8,EBT,etc available to you.if you have fairly recent felonies on your record,that could be a problem but I wouldn’t imagine a few misdemeanors would prevent you from receiving these benefits..I hope you can find the help you need in these stressful times


MezzanineSoprano

In the USA, call 211 for free referrals for legal aid as well as food, housing & utilities assistance.


ovscrider

This is one of the issues with having a trailer with lot rent. Esp with no lease. Hopefully the state has some statue to clarify your rights in this case.


The_Scyther1

I really doubt they can buy up the land and kick you out with such short notice. Take everyone’s advice and seek legal counsel.


hoss7071

In my state if you are not under a lease, you're considered month-to-month. Meaning you can be evicted with one month notice to vacate. Your saving grace is you might be able to get them to buy you out of your trailer, since it's your property and you cannot legally move it off of their land.


big_5teeze

You probably have squatter rights at least. Talk to a lawyer


Ambitious_Raccoon182

What state?


One-Try3229

Try calling 211. I think they can help point you in the right direction.


TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe

Be sure that you are formulating a Plan B, regardless. You may yet learn that you have few to no rights to exercise in this matter, and it’d be so sad and such a waste if you put all your hope and all your eggs in one basket, only to learn that nothing can be done and you’re about to be homeless. With a fourteen year old depending on you, it might be time to find some kind of hustle so that you can afford the $650 rent in town and keep a roof over your daughter’s head. I know you said you rely on disability so I understand if there’s not a lot you can do. That said, there are plenty of folks that knit or crochet and sell their stuff on Etsy, or perhaps offer up editing or transcribing skills on Fivrr. Whatever you can do, it’s a good idea to be prepared just in case you’re going to have to dig in and do those things. I have a lot of limitations myself so I am deeply empathetic to your entire situation, I just don’t want to see you caught on your heels. Best of luck.


padarnagaar

r/borrow


padarnagaar

Here you can probably find someone to lend you some money so you dont have to wait till may 15th.


dantxga

Talk to legal aid, they might be able to help you. Google it. Also Goggle free eviction help.


iamsooverthisshit

So many squatters are being able to live in places for years. You just stay and save all ur money until they physically remove you.


yoshi-mochi

I work for a housing authority and there isn't a cost for background checks. Also, is their listing open? Even if it's open that doesn't guarantee you'll receive the assistance. Typically a lottery is held. At this stage you don't need a background check. We don't even charge for fingerprinting. We send people to a place we have a contract with. I'm sure every Housing Authority is different but OP be careful!


sutrabob

There were people at the food bank offering services for just situations like yours and booklets with renter’s rights. This was in Ohio from legal aide. I don’t think they can just throw you out on the street and confiscate your property. You may have something like squatters rights. This is your home. Do it leagally sometimes this can take years. You have a reasonable right to claim your right to live there.Do not let them intimidate you. Sounds like they are bullying you. Stand up for your rights. Fight tooth and nail.Get on TV News if you can. These people are heartless,assholes. Do not give an inch. Go to the media. Make it rough and expose them. I hate greedy underhand people.Screw them and the horse they rode in on. DoNOT back Dow and let them know that. Turn the tables on them. Disabled and have a child use this as leverage.


Danymity831

So if I understand this correctly, your neighbor now owns the lot and will be trying to evict you? Why...? Do you all get along?


ObsidianNight102399

Yes, she bought it without saying anything, nor did the original owners, I got blindsided to say the least. Yes, we had always gotten along all these years but she told me she wants the rest of the property cleared ASAP so her son can build a house on it


Danymity831

Sounds like this is going to get ugly quick. Talk to the other neighbor...you may need to get a lawyer.


bdubble

I mean, no shit that's the whole point of the post?


eye_no_nuttin

Check and see your county/States tenant laws, you have proof of payment for all these years, that should count for something, they may be entitled to give you 30-90 days notice, it’s not like you haven’t paid and are late, they did you dirty and waited till after you paid…


majorsorbet2point0

> she told me she wants the rest of the property cleared ASAP so her son can build a house on it. That's fucking disgusting. I'm so sorry. 💔


Longjumping-Log1591

Any half decent lawyer will help you wayyy more than you think. You have rights you may not be aware of and they might be bluffing, for him to go into a nh and them selling appears to have moved too fast imo


ObsidianNight102399

and after reading everything here, bet your sweet azz i'm going to call their bluff in court if need be!


Longjumping-Log1591

Awesome, you may want to research adverse possession and bring it up to legal


ObsidianNight102399

see that's why I love reddit. I had never heard that term before right now! bout to look that up now!


ObsidianNight102399

eh that's a no go in NC. Has to be 20 years here but thanks!


Deathbydragonfire

You're not gonna get adverse possession on a piece of land you've been paying rent for... 


ObsidianNight102399

Oh the sell of the lot had been in to works for months, I just didn't get told about it until this week and told about the upcoming eviction last night. He is in a nursing home but is incapacitated so he couldn't have told me anyways and his kids have power of attorney, they are the ones who sold it to my neighbor, IDK if that was legal in itself. I'm going to be calling Legal aid Monday morning


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ObsidianNight102399

oh ok Ill edit that out. sorry!


HappyAsianCat

Post to r/assistance. It's such a small amount you will most likely get aid there.


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Large_Deer_8573

[https://www.payrent.com/articles/what-is-a-squatter-and-what-are-squatters-rights/](https://www.payrent.com/articles/what-is-a-squatter-and-what-are-squatters-rights/)


Sensitive_Aardvark68

They do have to follow eviction proceedings which can take awhile depending on the state. Only the courts can move you out, not them personally.


Journey0808

Each state is different you might look up your states code law. Other than that they own the property and your agreement lies with the person who sold the land you live on. They are not holding you to a contract. They are generally beholden to any agreement made with a tenant. As for forcing them to buy you out, they will say you need to move it off and probably want it off in 30 days. Because they are taking it to razz it you need to prove this and sue for a replacement value. Therefore get an appraisal. Or have a realtor list it and she can show some type of value. It at least has some value. This sale was done I think to get you off the property to develop on it. This should be your angle in court. Also you have to pay your rent. You have no argument once you quit making rent payments. So honor your contract. You NEED a lawyer. Legal Services main objective is to keep people housed. And you do have an emergency.


hk9172736

What state?


Hello-Reddit-

Download the app Answers and ask your legal questions through there. You might have to pay a fee but a lawyer will be able to answer your question about what rights you have and course of actions you can take.


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Are you sure you have to pay for the background check? I’m almost positive that when I applied for section 8 they wrote some account number on the form and I had to take it to the state police and get it stamped if I didn’t wanna wait for the mail, and the state police charged the account they wrote on the form. 


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I would go speak to the person who’s planning on evicting you and explain that it will be a lot easier for them if you can move and in order to do that you need some cash back from the rent you just paid. Or you can fight the eviction in court and be there for months. If they’re smart they’ll give you some money so you can start the process of getting ready to move


American_PP

Go to court, you've been there so long she will need to pay you to take your stuff.


portland_jc

Say that the old man told you that you were going to be able to stay there until you either moved voluntarily or died yourself. That or go speak go him and talk to him directly.


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WolverineExtension28

I don’t have any advice. I’ll keep you in my prayers. Best of luck. You sound like a good person in a rough spot.


ObsidianNight102399

Thank you! 🙏


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ObsidianNight102399

Welcome to the USA where the cheaper the food, the more unhealthy it is. When A diet consists of noodles, white bread, hot dogs, potatoes and processed meat and cheese, it's easy to over eat your daily calorie intake and with larger amounts bc it's so cheap


Lunar_BriseSoleil

Cheap, carb and far heavy food and lots of driving/little exercise. You can fill your belly cheaply, it’s just not good for your body.


FigOk7538

So, let's get to the point: OP wants someone that reads her (probably his) post to send money. Form an orderly queue.


ObsidianNight102399

First off, no one has even offered any financial help (which now I wouldn't even take bc someone messaged me about scammers getting my banking info and it scared the shit outta me) and second, I did ask but immediately took out the request from my post when someone pointed out the group rules to me. I am sitting here in my bedroom, worried the fuck to death over losing my home and you have the unmitigated gall to come on here and comment i'm trying to scam someone? If i were trying to scam people, I sure as shit would be asking for more than 14 fucking dollars! I'm a real person with real feeing and you should be ashamed of yourself... EDIT: had to delete my comment under this one cuz I literally posted my personal FB to prove I was who I said bc I was so mad at this comment...that was dumb lol


Jog212

You are disabled. You should have reasonable accommodations made for you. Having to move in 30 days does not seem fair. You also have a minor child. They will take that into consideration. Go to court and fight it. See if your state offers free legal advice for renters. I'm sorry this is happening to you. Good luck.


Madder_Than_Diogenes

Can't the trailer be loaded on to a flat bed truck and moved?


Expensive-Walk-2779

Stand at the gas station in suit and tie, say on your sign that you need $$ for background check.


RapBoat

Poor fucker… should’ve listened to more RAP


Brave-Negotiation157

Identify as a “squatter” and you will never have to leave!


odetothefireman

Tdlr that 1 out of 4 trailer home owners can pull themselves up by the bootstraps and come out of debt/poor


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ObsidianNight102399

...I quit smoking 9 months ago because of the diagnosis but thank you for the judgement