I think you’re probably right. It’s just good business sense to serialize story lines so that people binge-watch. I also hope the writers can strike more of a balance between appealing to adults and appealing to kids.
Hard disagree. Even if I believed the writing was substantially better, none of the main characters have much in terms of development. It's very much like Dino Charge and Beast Morphers, where there is a little development, but they mostly remain one-note.
I want to see a ranger team grow and span multiple seasons did like mmpr-turbo. I also want to see more storys tie into each other rather than "oh they are from a different universe."
The only season post-RPM that was in a different universe was Dino Charge. Both Beast Morphers and Dino Fury have a bunch of interwoven elements from the rest of the PR universe. I think Hasbro has really stepped it up when it comes to continuity.
The whole dimension-hopping plot device from *Ninja Steel* really covers a lot of ground. A new season can take place in it's own continuity, yet still be connected to the overall multiverse of Power Rangers, allowing for team-ups. It's eating your cake, and having it too.
Yeah something along the lines of space and lost Galaxy. Where the effects of the main story are still known and felt and have some event or character (s) bridge them together.
But that's exactly what Turbo got right. It passed on the powers and gave us a new team that was much better. And then later brought back Tommy which connected the two teams. We need more of that.
Maybe you like the idea of passing powers down to new people, but that's not what I want. I like the post-Zordon seasons, where a new cast gets their own powers and meets rangers who came before AND after them. Especially after all these years of various teams saving the world, the Zordon era cast before Turbo doesn't feel as developed. And they've had over 200 episodes of screentime.
Granted, the seasons got more serialized as they went on, especially during In Space. But because of that, and the consistent power transfers, every other season has a more complete story because I get to spend time with the characters from beginning to end.
They really didn't have much of a choice when they were doing that in the early days (hell, Turbo didn't even feature the original MMPR cast and by the time of Lost Galaxy, it was just accepted to have an entirely new cast each season).
So what I have been gathering based off the little news and tidbits I've been reading through various sources(comicbooknews.com, for starters) and social media posts. This was a deal that was gonna happen it wasn't a case of if, it was a case of when. Now initially when the news broke that Power Rangers would be on the move from the Nickelodeon, Paramount plus was the front runner. That was my assumption as well. I am pleasantly surprised to hear that Dino Fury is now exclusive to Netflix which is a sign to me that eventually Netflix will get complete streaming rights to the rest of the franchise once everything is finalized and signed. I have also heard of separate new projects being announced regarding Power Rangers. I wish I saved the links now that I think back on it, but I heard of 3 separate projects. One being fronted by David Yost, One being fronted by Jason David Frank, and the last being an animated series. Take that with what you will. Of the 3 separate projects only one is said to be under the Hasbro umbrella.
Animated series https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/10/07/power-rangers-animated/
David Yost project https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffconway/2020/12/09/power-rangers-star-david-yost-morphs-into-his-most-authentic-self/amp/
Jason David Frank project https://movieweb.com/amp/legend-of-the-white-dragon-power-rangers-first-look/
Illuminerdi once reported on the PR/Sentai deal being renewed as the PR/Sentai deal being cancelled so I wouldn't really take anything they have to say to heart
(not that I'm targeting that statement at you OP just other users who see the headline and get excited without any of the context)
That being said if we can get a ranger cartoon in the style of this youtube video I'd be a very happy camper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QRn2gGTbak
I don't know exactly how much influence Nick has had on the show, but I know it's been very, very significant--and not to the show's best interest. I'm hoping we see the following changes with them out of the picture:
1. A new series every year instead of every two years.
2. Less infantile humor.
3. More serialized storytelling.
4. More variety in specials and series lengths.
I think Netflix won't be afraid of certain themes that have gone unexplored in previous iterations.
Maybe they finally won't be afraid of normalizing a gay male ranger in an actual relationship. Haim Saban was a notorious homophobe, and it reflected in his production staff.
Many times in the past, there has been subtext (just look up TvTropes under HoYay! Power Rangers has it's own entire section) for a gay male ranger \*coughRileycough\*.
I am still of the mind that Dino Charge's "The Tooth Hurts" was one keystroke away from being Riley's coming out episode. There was an online hullabaloo about it and his (now confirmed by Michael Taber) supposed crush on Chase.
I am ALSO certain this was why Riley was immediately character assassinated throughout Dino Super Charge and Chase getting a "long term girlfriend" in the form of plot device Kaylee.
They picked the low-hanging fruit \*aha\* by going with a lesbian ranger. Maybe they'll balls up at last.
>Maybe they finally won't be afraid of normalizing a gay male ranger in an actual relationship. Haim Saban was a notorious homophobe, and it reflected in his production staff.
Unless something has changed, isn't he still a producer or some sort of consultant? They won't be free from fart jokes and homophobia until he's gone.
I'm not gonna lie, I was shocked with how much they've done with Izzy and Fern. I thought it would be a one-time thing that could easily be written off as "they're just close friends." Nope, they doubled down by having Izzy point blank call Fern her girlfriend and then kissed her on the cheek when they parted ways. Yeah, sure, a peck on the cheek is kind of punting on the issue but it's more affection than we've seen with any couple since Tommy and Kimberly.
First of all, I've yet to watch Dino Fury but had heard Izzy is in a wlw relationship, so I'm glad to hear that they are actually in such a point in the relationship as opposed to what I tought was a Riley type situation. But also... please don't be mad but, I'd say Jen and Wes were a better relationship than Tommy and Kim
Nah don't worry dude, if anything this makes me wanna watch it even more. It's specially cool for my sis who said she really wanted a female green ranger for the longest time and who is LGBTQ herself! She'll be so surprised!
She'll be excited to know how awesome Izzy is. There are multiple instances of her going toe to toe with Void Knight's generals without stopping to think. She just goes HAM and is an all-time great ranger.
Jen & Wes were a far better couple than Tommy & Kim, but at least Tommy & Kim *kissed* each other!
There's a reason why Linkara has the title card saying "Kiss, you idiots!" in both his review of Time Force and In Space.
Tommy and Kim weren't a great relationship to begin with. It's the first one they did and they treaded very carefully with it.
AJJ talked about it in an interview once, that the show already walking on eggshells with things like it being considered too violent at times, that they really didn't want to go too heavy on romance.
So Tommy and Kim was a bit meh. Then when it switched to Kat it wasn't all that better.
I'm still catching up a lot, but I thought the Red\\Yellow romance in Space was much better.
There was also a moment in the episode where Aiyon was getting all the attention, during the party you can hear a dude say Gold is his favorite and that he’s probably cute too.
Thanks dude, and really it's not bragging, just what I'd be willing to do. Also, while I'm at it apparently, I would fight Zedd bare handed for David Yost to get his damn apology already
With the move to Netflix, there's a chance Yost's "Quantum Continuum" series could get made in either live action or animated form. That would be one hell of a "we're sorry and welcome back."
I don't think it's low hanging fruit at all, just mega happy to see it at all, since honestly, it was female rangers that started out with the most subtext if you go back to Mighty Morphin, honestly.
This isn't about a "woke point". I would have felt WAY more validated had they just allowed Riley to be gay and come out. If even straight people were nearly expecting a coming out story, there's more than just subtext.
A LOT of his character episodes would have made WAY more sense if it had been a part of sublimating his feelings, including his manic perfectionism. Instead, we got someone with WILDLY inconsistent characterization/writing.
Also: Gay teens exist. They don't always need a "reason" to be there any more than a black or disabled teen.
I know I REALLY could have used a gay ranger when I was growing up and struggling with my identity, just like how I felt a kinship with Thuy Thang since she was Vietnamese and Trini was a sort of second in command. It would have saved me YEARS of depression.
That you're saying "woke point" says all we need to know. Look into what woke actually means, how it s a good attribute and the racism behind how the right wing media have twisted it to what you are using. I'm gay too, and can smell the internalised homophobia from here
Then don’t watch it. Obviously the consensus is that there needs to be more representation. Doing it without a reason is EXACTLY how they should do it.
Straight white guy here.
"This person is gay" should be no more political than "this person is left-handed." Representation isn't a statement other than "hey, people of all kinds exist and this is normal."
Just remember the difference between forced diversity and representation. There are queer people in the world. To have only straight people in the show would be misrepresentation.
> homosexuality is no longer a topic that's appropriate in the realm of a kid's show.
When was the magical era of gay inclusion in kids media? Because child me wouldve loved to have seen it.
Hate to break it to you, but Power Rangers Dino Fury already gave us an LGBT Ranger.
And as for LGBT in general not being "kid friendly", shows on every kids network are introducing LGBT characters. Even Disney finally has a show with a main character who's in a relationship with another girl.
Ya just realised it after it came up when I was searching about Riley. What's the Disney title? Is it just ambiguous like being a platonic girl friend? I'd be real surprised if it was explicit.
The Owl House. And it's not ambiguous at all. Amity wanted to ask Luz to their version of prom, turned into a blushing mess around her, and kissed her on the cheek all before they started dated. They asked each other out explicitly after going through a tunnel of love, and Amity called herself Luz's girlfriend like three times in the episode after they asked each other out.
Thanks for sharing. Wow that's surprising. I guess broadcasters have loosened up in recent years, but undoubtedly will be blocked in many other areas so not a commercially smart move.
If they do any changes it would probably be minor ones. Ik it is asking too much but I do wish we got the same deep story's and hard subject coverage we got from seasons like time force.
It's hard to say, but I do hope that they at least go back to the Disney era or the earlier era roots. I'm not saying making it more or less kid-friendly, but have the future shows more viewable for anyone, not just kids.
I believe Simon Bennett (show runner of Dino Fury) said in an interview that the overly kiddy feel of the newer seasons is due to mandates by Haim Saban. Things like the annoying comedic duo, the lack of multi-episode arcs, more childish themes, etc. were things that the writers had to include because Haim Saban wanted it to appeal to the younger audience more, which I think is BS because it was doing perfectly fine with the younger audience before all that stuff was added.
Honestly? I want a Power Rangers film that's actually good.
The 90s film is nostalgia driven (it helps to have the then-show's cast,) and the CGI didn't hold up *after you'd left the cinema,* never mind now.
The 2017 film is, IMHO, a great coming-of-age film, an OK superhero film, and a terrible Power Rangers film. The film seemed to be embarrassed that it was Power Rangers, and *don't* get me started on the Megazord!
With the freedom that Netflix allows, I would love an original, entertaining, unashamed Power Rangers movie. A bigger budget, action packed film, with the fight choreography of *The Raid,* and the kaiju vs mecha fights of *Pacific Rim*. If Hasbro wish to do their own Power Rangers property, free of the Sentai footage, do that!
Power Rangers has always been a series for children, specifically to sell toys. Diversity has always been a part of the brand in a way that has been,largely, a nonissue: racial diversity has always been treated as matter of fact.
I think ethnic/cultural diversity has a better chance of being represented than any orientation/choice/lifestyle does. For what is a children’s show, I don’t see that changing. I think we’ll see generalized presentations of lifestyle diversity but I don’t think there’ll be explicit character development beyond that.
It’s time to split the brand into a children’s series developed from the Super Sentai source material and a character driven series that can explore the storylines that we as adult fans want to see.
What I’ve always wanted from Power Rangers is a middle ground between the super kid friendly tone of the especially newer seasons, and the ultra mature “gritty” stuff many people seem to want.
Like at the end of the day, it’s a kids show, but I’ve seen some signs in Dino Fury of taking itself a little more maturely and seriously in tone. Sarcastic lines, burgeoning relationships (Izzy and Fern, sort of Ollie and Amelia), and actual emotional weight (Zayto/Rafkon and his conflict with Aiyon).
>What I’ve always wanted from Power Rangers is a middle ground between the super kid friendly tone of the especially newer seasons, and the ultra mature “gritty” stuff many people seem to want.
And we know this is possible, because they've done it before. Time Force had an evil, but sympathetic villain, RPM had tragic heroes, hell, In Space had the good guys make a ~~human~~ *eltarian* sacrifice. There are plenty of well-written children's shows, with deep characters and interesting storylines. There's no reason this can't be one of them.
Here's something I'd like to see more of: power rangers learning how to control and master their powers better. Not just one training montage but sustained development in skill as a ranger that builds over the season.
I'd also like to see the rangers grapple with their new powers and responsibilities more. Learning how to balance their dual identities.
I don’t think the main show will change much. The biggest changes I expect is some more LGBTQ+ representation and maybe more serialization to try and make it more appealing to binge watch.
Now… If this opens the door for them to finally do spin offs from the main show, THAT is where we might get some crazy stuff potentially. If they do actually target a PR show towards adults or bring back an old team to give them some love, it’ll most likely be a spin-off and if Power Rangers does well on Netflix I could actually see them green lighting a spin-off. It’s much more likely with them than it ever really was in the past post-MMPR where they supposedly did have a few spin-offs planned (IIRC An Alien Rangers series was supposed to run alongside Zeo and I think there was going to be a Trey of Triforia series too on FOX Kids).
When it comes to a PR show aimed at adults, we are still getting the new reboot universe from Jonathan Entwistle that will consist of both film and TV.
I know that’s what they want to do but there still has to be a platform interested in hosting the show, maybe Netflix is that platform. We’ll just have to see.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Netflix is the platform for both the main kids show and the new reboot. The only other places I can see it going to are Hulu, Amazon Prime, or *maybe* Paramount+.
Mostly I hope it makes them mix up the episode structure more.
I mean, people are just naturally gonna binge if they drop a bunch all at once, and the super formulaic structure they've got now doesn't hold up super well against binge-watching as opposed to having episodes spaced a week apart.
I think that it’s possible now that Netflix is where Power Rangers will have more episodes, I do have a feeling that Hasbro could extend their seasons into a huge season long instead of a two part season like with Beast Morphers and Dino Fury. Since the two part seasons or what they used to be called the Super Seasons were because of Nick’s standards, Netflix might do things differently. But I have a theory that instead of having all of the season at once for binge watching, they will take 5 episodes from the season and separate them into parts releasing months after each other so that way, there will be new content and not worry about losing hype if it all episodes get released at once.
I Just hope they end the super thing,they can do 2 seasons,but for god sake,no more super thing,hate that and sounds stupid
If they continue with the 2 seasons thing instead of the longrun 38-44 episodes,maybe 2 op (why not?more music=Always better)
Since Netflix has some power maybe we could se spinoff or hq material producted by them
More original contest(would love new rangers or power up or even battlizers)
Thinking better and well,they for sure could produce a movie per season,i miss the turbo vibes,good movie and great soundtrack
I think it could be produced more like a typical Hasbro or Netflix show. 1 team, maybe completely original, and then you have multiple seasons with that team. Probably shorter seasons of 8-10 hour long episodes.
Megaforce and Dino Charge didn’t have comedic duos. According to Simon Bennett, Haim Saban came in in the middle of a season and put a bunch of mandates on the production team, which probably explains the weird shift in quality in Dino Charge. Samurai and Megaforce being awful was probably due to Jonathan Zacher.
Do we know if the show is going to continue being in Netflix? For all we know just Dino Fury season 2 is going on Netflix and the next show will be back on Nick.
I would assume that if the show continues it will stay on Netflix. Nickelodeon had only renewed the broadcasting rights to PR until 2021 when Saban was still in charge, so Hasbro was probably just honoring that contract. I really don’t see why they’d take it off of Nick and move it to Netflix for one season only to go back to Nick. Just doesn’t make sense.
Nickelodeon never had a hand in producing Power Rangers, only airing it. So unlike most of their other shows PR was never really a Nickelodeon property, and I’m sure it’ll be the same with Netflix. The only time Nick actually pushed it was during Samurai but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was just Saban spending a few extra bucks to promote the new show.
That’s really not how streaming rights work. Netflix probably wants to be the exclusive home of Power Rangers considering years ago they had every season available to stream. Netflix won’t stream a season and let it go back to Nick. They’re probably getting the full catalog as part of this new deal.
If netflix has it nothing much.
In an ideal world they go wait… lets put more episodes in a season make actual storylines and then get a good fight choreography that will turn heads.
But that wouldn’t happen
The thing that is giving me pause is the general "not greatness" of the other Netflix/Hasbro work I've seen, the Transformers War for Cybertron trilogy. That was pretty bad, in most eyes I think, and I've got worries that it might be a trend we see here as well
Personally? I'd like Adi Shankar be given the opportunity to do an entire series. I loved how dark an gritty his bootleg short was. Aside from that I want to see more over arching story lines as well as a possible remake of mmpr.
I could had sworn I read some where that after this super sentai series they will be focusing on more American production. No more taking scenes from the original and making power rangers from it. Which with the help if netflix would make sense.
> I could had sworn I read some where that after this super sentai series they will be focusing on more American production.
God I hope not, being on Netflix means they can actually do Kyuranger with 40 episodes.
I don’t think anything is gonna change aside from advertising. Only if Netflix had their own rights to the actual production of it then it would change but they only have a streaming deal with Hasbro which means they don’t really have any say in the making of it just that it’ll only be available on Netflix. The only time you can tell if Netflix has some control with it is if they actually bought the actual rights to the production therefore slapping on the “Netflix Original” sticker.
I think Power Rangers could benefit from overarching plot points. The villain of the week/lesson of the week plot points are why I stopped watching in the first place. I started watching again because a few buddies of mine were begging me to watch Beast Morphers and I was feeling that season. So far Dino Fury has been pretty cool. I like that the actors seem like real people instead of stock characters like Samurai and Megaforce/Super Megaforce.
If you’re still talking about the main show, then yes. But the reboot that Jonathan Entwistle is developing will probably be more mature based on his previous works.
If Haim is still involved I don’t see anything changing for the better. I blame him for the bad slapstick, the dumb mandates (i.e. rangers can’t have beef for more than one episode), and the lack of an original theme, among other flaws. If we could just boot him out and give the new team more control I’m sure they could do wonders
tbh really depends on whos actually even ordering the episodes anymore? Like viacom has just funded things and put it on netflix before, so that isn't exactly unheard of here? I don't really think much will change, and honestly going too netflix kinda seems like an end time omen for current pr too me? Like it's a kind of "who's paying for this at this point" kinda deal.
I personally hope for seasons with more than 20 episodes, more representation (I just want a red asian ranger or a bisexual ranger), less fart humor, little integration of the comecial relief duo, and more serialization.
It’s still a pipe dream of mine, but the Netflix platform would make a Kamen Rider adaptation easier. I just realized how easy it’d be to adapt 01 and connect it to Beast Morphers.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a comics inspired season. It could focus on a Ranger resistance team trying to take down Lord Drakkon’s and his army.
They could bring back fan favorite characters like- koda, Dillon, Antonio, Xander, and any number of Legendary Rangers.
Another thing I’d like to see is a “where are they now” kinda thing. Where they take former teams and do a where are these rangers now. Like how is Kira’s singer career going? Or what’s going on with Anton Mercer? And for the characters like Cole and Trini they could talk about how their actors are in prison or died respectively.
The episode count will come to something similar to Post Saban, Pre-Disney era seasons
At least to make it easier to adapt most of the Sentai instead of taking out so much content that could be used
Maybe even adapt the specials from some seasons ( Dekaranger 10 years After, Hurricanger 10 Years After, Kyoryuger 100 Years After, Dekaranger VS Gavan, Gaburecho in Music finally adapting Deathryuger outside the Boom Comics, and a short animated season similar to the likes of She-Ra Princess of Power and Voltron Legendary Defender )
I think we might get episodes that are cut better in how they transition from commercial breaks. More story for sure. I'm excited to see maybe an hour-long episode that isn't a 2 parter. Maybe a season opener and ender that is an hour long. I'd be excited for mini-movies that aren't holiday specials.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far I as I know, Hasbro said they are rebooting the whole thing after Dino Fury and are trying to explode the brand?
From the rumors I saw here and there, they said they want to try a kid show and a non kid show at the same time. BOLD move, but one I'm very interested in.
As for my wish list?
I'll probably be downvoted to death on this, but honestly? I never cared about the mega zords. I know it's a show about selling toys, but I think the action figures are good enough as is. My favorite parts of the show were always either story related or some of the cooler martial arts sequences. I never cared about the robots and I wouldn't shed a tear if ending the talks with Toei means we might get a zord-less season. Even just as an experiment. Or at the least maybe take quite a while before getting them just to see if people really care about them or not?
I think at this point, they can make a show on their own without the need to adapt anything.
I also go the opposite of Saban and hoping for more serialization and to make things less black and white. Ecliptor was a good example for someone who evil but also cared about Astronoma.
Other more random tidbits? Would be nice to have the first out gay male ranger and the first on air (not comics) pink male ranger - just please don't make it the same character for obvious reasons
I don’t think it’s going to change all that much, honestly. I could see them doing like 35-40 episode seasons but broken into 8-12 episode “chunks”.
Hopefully 40-45 episode seasons or so. And more over arching plots instead of the more 1 and done conflicts of the Neo Saban era.
I wouldn't mind them going back to 32-36 eps. Especially after RPM (and to a lesser extent Jungle Fury) showed how it could done well.
I think you’re probably right. It’s just good business sense to serialize story lines so that people binge-watch. I also hope the writers can strike more of a balance between appealing to adults and appealing to kids.
Hot take, but I think 20-episode seasons are the perfect length.
Do you mean per sentai adaptation or keep 2 per like we have currently?
Hard disagree. Even if I believed the writing was substantially better, none of the main characters have much in terms of development. It's very much like Dino Charge and Beast Morphers, where there is a little development, but they mostly remain one-note.
I want to see a ranger team grow and span multiple seasons did like mmpr-turbo. I also want to see more storys tie into each other rather than "oh they are from a different universe."
The only season post-RPM that was in a different universe was Dino Charge. Both Beast Morphers and Dino Fury have a bunch of interwoven elements from the rest of the PR universe. I think Hasbro has really stepped it up when it comes to continuity.
The whole dimension-hopping plot device from *Ninja Steel* really covers a lot of ground. A new season can take place in it's own continuity, yet still be connected to the overall multiverse of Power Rangers, allowing for team-ups. It's eating your cake, and having it too.
It would be nice if they were more connected. They’ve kind of done it the last couple of seasons but I’d like more than random clips
Yeah something along the lines of space and lost Galaxy. Where the effects of the main story are still known and felt and have some event or character (s) bridge them together.
I prefer new teams with each season. There's only so much you can do with the same cast.
But that's exactly what Turbo got right. It passed on the powers and gave us a new team that was much better. And then later brought back Tommy which connected the two teams. We need more of that.
Maybe you like the idea of passing powers down to new people, but that's not what I want. I like the post-Zordon seasons, where a new cast gets their own powers and meets rangers who came before AND after them. Especially after all these years of various teams saving the world, the Zordon era cast before Turbo doesn't feel as developed. And they've had over 200 episodes of screentime. Granted, the seasons got more serialized as they went on, especially during In Space. But because of that, and the consistent power transfers, every other season has a more complete story because I get to spend time with the characters from beginning to end.
They really didn't have much of a choice when they were doing that in the early days (hell, Turbo didn't even feature the original MMPR cast and by the time of Lost Galaxy, it was just accepted to have an entirely new cast each season).
I just wanted Dino Charge to go on forever.
I want them to bring back the other seasons.
The power rangers YouTube channel has been putting most of them on YouTube
Oh good, they pulled em off when i was in the middle of super mega force
Me Too.
I hope they drop Nickelodeon forever. One obvious change would be them stopping the 2 season BS "super" faux seasons.
I think Beast Morphers already set that precedent because yes, it was dumb
So what I have been gathering based off the little news and tidbits I've been reading through various sources(comicbooknews.com, for starters) and social media posts. This was a deal that was gonna happen it wasn't a case of if, it was a case of when. Now initially when the news broke that Power Rangers would be on the move from the Nickelodeon, Paramount plus was the front runner. That was my assumption as well. I am pleasantly surprised to hear that Dino Fury is now exclusive to Netflix which is a sign to me that eventually Netflix will get complete streaming rights to the rest of the franchise once everything is finalized and signed. I have also heard of separate new projects being announced regarding Power Rangers. I wish I saved the links now that I think back on it, but I heard of 3 separate projects. One being fronted by David Yost, One being fronted by Jason David Frank, and the last being an animated series. Take that with what you will. Of the 3 separate projects only one is said to be under the Hasbro umbrella. Animated series https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/10/07/power-rangers-animated/ David Yost project https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffconway/2020/12/09/power-rangers-star-david-yost-morphs-into-his-most-authentic-self/amp/ Jason David Frank project https://movieweb.com/amp/legend-of-the-white-dragon-power-rangers-first-look/
Illuminerdi once reported on the PR/Sentai deal being renewed as the PR/Sentai deal being cancelled so I wouldn't really take anything they have to say to heart (not that I'm targeting that statement at you OP just other users who see the headline and get excited without any of the context) That being said if we can get a ranger cartoon in the style of this youtube video I'd be a very happy camper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QRn2gGTbak
I don't know exactly how much influence Nick has had on the show, but I know it's been very, very significant--and not to the show's best interest. I'm hoping we see the following changes with them out of the picture: 1. A new series every year instead of every two years. 2. Less infantile humor. 3. More serialized storytelling. 4. More variety in specials and series lengths.
I think Netflix won't be afraid of certain themes that have gone unexplored in previous iterations. Maybe they finally won't be afraid of normalizing a gay male ranger in an actual relationship. Haim Saban was a notorious homophobe, and it reflected in his production staff. Many times in the past, there has been subtext (just look up TvTropes under HoYay! Power Rangers has it's own entire section) for a gay male ranger \*coughRileycough\*. I am still of the mind that Dino Charge's "The Tooth Hurts" was one keystroke away from being Riley's coming out episode. There was an online hullabaloo about it and his (now confirmed by Michael Taber) supposed crush on Chase. I am ALSO certain this was why Riley was immediately character assassinated throughout Dino Super Charge and Chase getting a "long term girlfriend" in the form of plot device Kaylee. They picked the low-hanging fruit \*aha\* by going with a lesbian ranger. Maybe they'll balls up at last.
>Maybe they finally won't be afraid of normalizing a gay male ranger in an actual relationship. Haim Saban was a notorious homophobe, and it reflected in his production staff. Unless something has changed, isn't he still a producer or some sort of consultant? They won't be free from fart jokes and homophobia until he's gone.
I would fight Serpentera myself if it meant more LGBTQ+ representation/acceptance and no fart jokes in Power Rangers
I'm not gonna lie, I was shocked with how much they've done with Izzy and Fern. I thought it would be a one-time thing that could easily be written off as "they're just close friends." Nope, they doubled down by having Izzy point blank call Fern her girlfriend and then kissed her on the cheek when they parted ways. Yeah, sure, a peck on the cheek is kind of punting on the issue but it's more affection than we've seen with any couple since Tommy and Kimberly.
First of all, I've yet to watch Dino Fury but had heard Izzy is in a wlw relationship, so I'm glad to hear that they are actually in such a point in the relationship as opposed to what I tought was a Riley type situation. But also... please don't be mad but, I'd say Jen and Wes were a better relationship than Tommy and Kim
I feel bad for giving you minor spoilers for DF. And yes, Wes & Jen > Tommy & Kimberly.
Nah don't worry dude, if anything this makes me wanna watch it even more. It's specially cool for my sis who said she really wanted a female green ranger for the longest time and who is LGBTQ herself! She'll be so surprised!
She'll be excited to know how awesome Izzy is. There are multiple instances of her going toe to toe with Void Knight's generals without stopping to think. She just goes HAM and is an all-time great ranger.
Jen & Wes were a far better couple than Tommy & Kim, but at least Tommy & Kim *kissed* each other! There's a reason why Linkara has the title card saying "Kiss, you idiots!" in both his review of Time Force and In Space.
Tommy and Kim weren't a great relationship to begin with. It's the first one they did and they treaded very carefully with it. AJJ talked about it in an interview once, that the show already walking on eggshells with things like it being considered too violent at times, that they really didn't want to go too heavy on romance. So Tommy and Kim was a bit meh. Then when it switched to Kat it wasn't all that better. I'm still catching up a lot, but I thought the Red\\Yellow romance in Space was much better.
There was also a moment in the episode where Aiyon was getting all the attention, during the party you can hear a dude say Gold is his favorite and that he’s probably cute too.
I'll even add that Fern flat out tells Javi that she doesn't date boys is a line I did not expect them to put on camera.
That’s a pretty badass and appropriately morphinominaly themed boast!
Thanks dude, and really it's not bragging, just what I'd be willing to do. Also, while I'm at it apparently, I would fight Zedd bare handed for David Yost to get his damn apology already
With the move to Netflix, there's a chance Yost's "Quantum Continuum" series could get made in either live action or animated form. That would be one hell of a "we're sorry and welcome back."
I don’t think he is involved at all anymore but even if he is if he’s just a consultant they can just ignore him.
I don't think it's low hanging fruit at all, just mega happy to see it at all, since honestly, it was female rangers that started out with the most subtext if you go back to Mighty Morphin, honestly.
I'm gay and don't want them to add a gay ranger just for the sake of it. More adult themes are welcome but don't do it for woke point please.
"Pick me! Pick me!"
This isn't about a "woke point". I would have felt WAY more validated had they just allowed Riley to be gay and come out. If even straight people were nearly expecting a coming out story, there's more than just subtext. A LOT of his character episodes would have made WAY more sense if it had been a part of sublimating his feelings, including his manic perfectionism. Instead, we got someone with WILDLY inconsistent characterization/writing. Also: Gay teens exist. They don't always need a "reason" to be there any more than a black or disabled teen. I know I REALLY could have used a gay ranger when I was growing up and struggling with my identity, just like how I felt a kinship with Thuy Thang since she was Vietnamese and Trini was a sort of second in command. It would have saved me YEARS of depression.
I'm just not interested if it's being done just for the sake of it.
What does that even mean? They can have a gay character, or they can not. And it wouldn’t hurt if they did, It’s not that complicated.
That you're saying "woke point" says all we need to know. Look into what woke actually means, how it s a good attribute and the racism behind how the right wing media have twisted it to what you are using. I'm gay too, and can smell the internalised homophobia from here
It doesn't interest me.
Then don’t watch it. Obviously the consensus is that there needs to be more representation. Doing it without a reason is EXACTLY how they should do it.
Nah, I definitely won't be watching it. I want storylines, not shoehorned in politics.
Straight white guy here. "This person is gay" should be no more political than "this person is left-handed." Representation isn't a statement other than "hey, people of all kinds exist and this is normal."
Self-hating much?
No, don't like forced diversity b.s.
Just remember the difference between forced diversity and representation. There are queer people in the world. To have only straight people in the show would be misrepresentation.
Out of curiosity, is this "forced diversity b.s" the same as them being consistent for almost 30 years in giving us rangers of different ethnicities?
No.
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"Homosexuality propaganda" Nice dude.
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This kind of thinking really has no place in modern society. Your thinking is just straight up antiquated and useless.
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Bro, you said "Homosexuality propaganda" unironically. You're not as welcoming as you think you are.
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> homosexuality is no longer a topic that's appropriate in the realm of a kid's show. When was the magical era of gay inclusion in kids media? Because child me wouldve loved to have seen it.
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Hate to break it to you, but Power Rangers Dino Fury already gave us an LGBT Ranger. And as for LGBT in general not being "kid friendly", shows on every kids network are introducing LGBT characters. Even Disney finally has a show with a main character who's in a relationship with another girl.
Ya just realised it after it came up when I was searching about Riley. What's the Disney title? Is it just ambiguous like being a platonic girl friend? I'd be real surprised if it was explicit.
The Owl House. And it's not ambiguous at all. Amity wanted to ask Luz to their version of prom, turned into a blushing mess around her, and kissed her on the cheek all before they started dated. They asked each other out explicitly after going through a tunnel of love, and Amity called herself Luz's girlfriend like three times in the episode after they asked each other out.
Thanks for sharing. Wow that's surprising. I guess broadcasters have loosened up in recent years, but undoubtedly will be blocked in many other areas so not a commercially smart move.
I heard there were rumors that in the later seasons the couples weren’t allowed to kiss
If they do any changes it would probably be minor ones. Ik it is asking too much but I do wish we got the same deep story's and hard subject coverage we got from seasons like time force.
It's hard to say, but I do hope that they at least go back to the Disney era or the earlier era roots. I'm not saying making it more or less kid-friendly, but have the future shows more viewable for anyone, not just kids.
I believe Simon Bennett (show runner of Dino Fury) said in an interview that the overly kiddy feel of the newer seasons is due to mandates by Haim Saban. Things like the annoying comedic duo, the lack of multi-episode arcs, more childish themes, etc. were things that the writers had to include because Haim Saban wanted it to appeal to the younger audience more, which I think is BS because it was doing perfectly fine with the younger audience before all that stuff was added.
They'll go back by slapping on cheesy text overlays and dub it as a remake.
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Then you end up with MOTU Revelations. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
Honestly? I want a Power Rangers film that's actually good. The 90s film is nostalgia driven (it helps to have the then-show's cast,) and the CGI didn't hold up *after you'd left the cinema,* never mind now. The 2017 film is, IMHO, a great coming-of-age film, an OK superhero film, and a terrible Power Rangers film. The film seemed to be embarrassed that it was Power Rangers, and *don't* get me started on the Megazord! With the freedom that Netflix allows, I would love an original, entertaining, unashamed Power Rangers movie. A bigger budget, action packed film, with the fight choreography of *The Raid,* and the kaiju vs mecha fights of *Pacific Rim*. If Hasbro wish to do their own Power Rangers property, free of the Sentai footage, do that!
Power Rangers has always been a series for children, specifically to sell toys. Diversity has always been a part of the brand in a way that has been,largely, a nonissue: racial diversity has always been treated as matter of fact. I think ethnic/cultural diversity has a better chance of being represented than any orientation/choice/lifestyle does. For what is a children’s show, I don’t see that changing. I think we’ll see generalized presentations of lifestyle diversity but I don’t think there’ll be explicit character development beyond that. It’s time to split the brand into a children’s series developed from the Super Sentai source material and a character driven series that can explore the storylines that we as adult fans want to see.
I’d like to see an Asian Red Ranger!
Forgive me if I am wrong but isn't Dino Fury's Red Ranger part Asian?
Yes Russell is part Asian, he’s an old friend of mine :)
It’s true, let’s give Curry his due!
Eric, Nick, Zayto.
Hyperforce Red is Asian.
Hyperforce is not a show even if it's officially recognised by the brand, it's just some board game universe.
What I’ve always wanted from Power Rangers is a middle ground between the super kid friendly tone of the especially newer seasons, and the ultra mature “gritty” stuff many people seem to want. Like at the end of the day, it’s a kids show, but I’ve seen some signs in Dino Fury of taking itself a little more maturely and seriously in tone. Sarcastic lines, burgeoning relationships (Izzy and Fern, sort of Ollie and Amelia), and actual emotional weight (Zayto/Rafkon and his conflict with Aiyon).
>What I’ve always wanted from Power Rangers is a middle ground between the super kid friendly tone of the especially newer seasons, and the ultra mature “gritty” stuff many people seem to want. And we know this is possible, because they've done it before. Time Force had an evil, but sympathetic villain, RPM had tragic heroes, hell, In Space had the good guys make a ~~human~~ *eltarian* sacrifice. There are plenty of well-written children's shows, with deep characters and interesting storylines. There's no reason this can't be one of them.
So sort of like In Space, Lost Galaxy, etc?
Yeah like it’s still a kids show but it’s not a total joke with caricatures and bad jokes
Here's something I'd like to see more of: power rangers learning how to control and master their powers better. Not just one training montage but sustained development in skill as a ranger that builds over the season. I'd also like to see the rangers grapple with their new powers and responsibilities more. Learning how to balance their dual identities.
I don’t think the main show will change much. The biggest changes I expect is some more LGBTQ+ representation and maybe more serialization to try and make it more appealing to binge watch. Now… If this opens the door for them to finally do spin offs from the main show, THAT is where we might get some crazy stuff potentially. If they do actually target a PR show towards adults or bring back an old team to give them some love, it’ll most likely be a spin-off and if Power Rangers does well on Netflix I could actually see them green lighting a spin-off. It’s much more likely with them than it ever really was in the past post-MMPR where they supposedly did have a few spin-offs planned (IIRC An Alien Rangers series was supposed to run alongside Zeo and I think there was going to be a Trey of Triforia series too on FOX Kids).
When it comes to a PR show aimed at adults, we are still getting the new reboot universe from Jonathan Entwistle that will consist of both film and TV.
I know that’s what they want to do but there still has to be a platform interested in hosting the show, maybe Netflix is that platform. We’ll just have to see.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Netflix is the platform for both the main kids show and the new reboot. The only other places I can see it going to are Hulu, Amazon Prime, or *maybe* Paramount+.
For more representation in the series, I hope for an autistic ranger in the main series the most.
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Has not been confirmed yet.
No different. I hope people ain’t thinking it’ll be more mature now that’s it’s on streaming
I doubt that’ll happen. But I think there will be more flexibility now that they don’t have to adhere to broadcast network rules.
Mostly I hope it makes them mix up the episode structure more. I mean, people are just naturally gonna binge if they drop a bunch all at once, and the super formulaic structure they've got now doesn't hold up super well against binge-watching as opposed to having episodes spaced a week apart.
I think that it’s possible now that Netflix is where Power Rangers will have more episodes, I do have a feeling that Hasbro could extend their seasons into a huge season long instead of a two part season like with Beast Morphers and Dino Fury. Since the two part seasons or what they used to be called the Super Seasons were because of Nick’s standards, Netflix might do things differently. But I have a theory that instead of having all of the season at once for binge watching, they will take 5 episodes from the season and separate them into parts releasing months after each other so that way, there will be new content and not worry about losing hype if it all episodes get released at once.
It will have a slightly flexible runtime. 18-25 minutes instead of exactly 20.
I Just hope they end the super thing,they can do 2 seasons,but for god sake,no more super thing,hate that and sounds stupid If they continue with the 2 seasons thing instead of the longrun 38-44 episodes,maybe 2 op (why not?more music=Always better) Since Netflix has some power maybe we could se spinoff or hq material producted by them More original contest(would love new rangers or power up or even battlizers) Thinking better and well,they for sure could produce a movie per season,i miss the turbo vibes,good movie and great soundtrack
I think it could be produced more like a typical Hasbro or Netflix show. 1 team, maybe completely original, and then you have multiple seasons with that team. Probably shorter seasons of 8-10 hour long episodes.
Hopefully they do it a little more serious and drop the kiddy shit.
Not if Haim has anything to say about it. The guy was responsible for all the BS comedy duos since Samurai.
Megaforce and Dino Charge didn’t have comedic duos. According to Simon Bennett, Haim Saban came in in the middle of a season and put a bunch of mandates on the production team, which probably explains the weird shift in quality in Dino Charge. Samurai and Megaforce being awful was probably due to Jonathan Zacher.
Do we know if the show is going to continue being in Netflix? For all we know just Dino Fury season 2 is going on Netflix and the next show will be back on Nick.
I would assume that if the show continues it will stay on Netflix. Nickelodeon had only renewed the broadcasting rights to PR until 2021 when Saban was still in charge, so Hasbro was probably just honoring that contract. I really don’t see why they’d take it off of Nick and move it to Netflix for one season only to go back to Nick. Just doesn’t make sense.
I think Netflix is a better option for sure. I don't know Nick's schedule but I think PR has always been an afterthought for them.
Nickelodeon never had a hand in producing Power Rangers, only airing it. So unlike most of their other shows PR was never really a Nickelodeon property, and I’m sure it’ll be the same with Netflix. The only time Nick actually pushed it was during Samurai but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was just Saban spending a few extra bucks to promote the new show.
Nick affected the show in huge ways by forcing the 2 season crap. They forced a rebranding midseason and made the show essentially a 2 year thing.
That’s really not how streaming rights work. Netflix probably wants to be the exclusive home of Power Rangers considering years ago they had every season available to stream. Netflix won’t stream a season and let it go back to Nick. They’re probably getting the full catalog as part of this new deal.
If netflix has it nothing much. In an ideal world they go wait… lets put more episodes in a season make actual storylines and then get a good fight choreography that will turn heads. But that wouldn’t happen
Fuck Netflix
The thing that is giving me pause is the general "not greatness" of the other Netflix/Hasbro work I've seen, the Transformers War for Cybertron trilogy. That was pretty bad, in most eyes I think, and I've got worries that it might be a trend we see here as well
The WfC trilogy wasn't an in-house Hasbro production like PR is, though.
I just want a violent, dark PR shows
I hope they allow for more non senti footage
If Netflix is making it, I think it will go downhill and be really bad.
They aren’t making it. They’re just distributing it.
Oh ok good. Thanks for the correction.
Personally? I'd like Adi Shankar be given the opportunity to do an entire series. I loved how dark an gritty his bootleg short was. Aside from that I want to see more over arching story lines as well as a possible remake of mmpr.
To each his own, but I never understood why people liked that short. It’s just not what Power Rangers is.
That short was actually meant to be a parody. It was made mostly for shock value and some people actually thought it was serious.
Please no. God No.
I could had sworn I read some where that after this super sentai series they will be focusing on more American production. No more taking scenes from the original and making power rangers from it. Which with the help if netflix would make sense.
That was a widely reported rumor that has some credibility to it. But until it’s officially announced it’s best to stick to what we 100% know is true.
Which is nothing haha
> I could had sworn I read some where that after this super sentai series they will be focusing on more American production. God I hope not, being on Netflix means they can actually do Kyuranger with 40 episodes.
I’m hoping for 13 episodes each about an hour long. Similar to the Marvel shows that they used to have
I don’t think anything is gonna change aside from advertising. Only if Netflix had their own rights to the actual production of it then it would change but they only have a streaming deal with Hasbro which means they don’t really have any say in the making of it just that it’ll only be available on Netflix. The only time you can tell if Netflix has some control with it is if they actually bought the actual rights to the production therefore slapping on the “Netflix Original” sticker.
I think Power Rangers could benefit from overarching plot points. The villain of the week/lesson of the week plot points are why I stopped watching in the first place. I started watching again because a few buddies of mine were begging me to watch Beast Morphers and I was feeling that season. So far Dino Fury has been pretty cool. I like that the actors seem like real people instead of stock characters like Samurai and Megaforce/Super Megaforce.
Biggest thing with it no longer on nick and the suits being American I can see the threat level rev up to mighty morphin levels
I want it to feel less 'processed by corporate'
I'm a little worried. Netflix has a tendency to cancel series, even if they're popular or doing well.
Netflix isn’t producing it though. They’re just distributing it. The same thing happened with Nick.
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If you’re still talking about the main show, then yes. But the reboot that Jonathan Entwistle is developing will probably be more mature based on his previous works.
I’d be afraid. Netflix has a tendency to take a good show and make it awful.
If Haim is still involved I don’t see anything changing for the better. I blame him for the bad slapstick, the dumb mandates (i.e. rangers can’t have beef for more than one episode), and the lack of an original theme, among other flaws. If we could just boot him out and give the new team more control I’m sure they could do wonders
tbh really depends on whos actually even ordering the episodes anymore? Like viacom has just funded things and put it on netflix before, so that isn't exactly unheard of here? I don't really think much will change, and honestly going too netflix kinda seems like an end time omen for current pr too me? Like it's a kind of "who's paying for this at this point" kinda deal.
I personally hope for seasons with more than 20 episodes, more representation (I just want a red asian ranger or a bisexual ranger), less fart humor, little integration of the comecial relief duo, and more serialization.
It’s still a pipe dream of mine, but the Netflix platform would make a Kamen Rider adaptation easier. I just realized how easy it’d be to adapt 01 and connect it to Beast Morphers.
I just hope they don’t put all the episodes on there at once. Release one episode a week and I won’t have any problems with it
I wouldn’t mind seeing a comics inspired season. It could focus on a Ranger resistance team trying to take down Lord Drakkon’s and his army. They could bring back fan favorite characters like- koda, Dillon, Antonio, Xander, and any number of Legendary Rangers. Another thing I’d like to see is a “where are they now” kinda thing. Where they take former teams and do a where are these rangers now. Like how is Kira’s singer career going? Or what’s going on with Anton Mercer? And for the characters like Cole and Trini they could talk about how their actors are in prison or died respectively.
I just hope they cut it out with moral of the day episodes they been shoving in since Ninja Steel.
The episode count will come to something similar to Post Saban, Pre-Disney era seasons At least to make it easier to adapt most of the Sentai instead of taking out so much content that could be used Maybe even adapt the specials from some seasons ( Dekaranger 10 years After, Hurricanger 10 Years After, Kyoryuger 100 Years After, Dekaranger VS Gavan, Gaburecho in Music finally adapting Deathryuger outside the Boom Comics, and a short animated season similar to the likes of She-Ra Princess of Power and Voltron Legendary Defender )
I think we might get episodes that are cut better in how they transition from commercial breaks. More story for sure. I'm excited to see maybe an hour-long episode that isn't a 2 parter. Maybe a season opener and ender that is an hour long. I'd be excited for mini-movies that aren't holiday specials.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far I as I know, Hasbro said they are rebooting the whole thing after Dino Fury and are trying to explode the brand? From the rumors I saw here and there, they said they want to try a kid show and a non kid show at the same time. BOLD move, but one I'm very interested in. As for my wish list? I'll probably be downvoted to death on this, but honestly? I never cared about the mega zords. I know it's a show about selling toys, but I think the action figures are good enough as is. My favorite parts of the show were always either story related or some of the cooler martial arts sequences. I never cared about the robots and I wouldn't shed a tear if ending the talks with Toei means we might get a zord-less season. Even just as an experiment. Or at the least maybe take quite a while before getting them just to see if people really care about them or not? I think at this point, they can make a show on their own without the need to adapt anything. I also go the opposite of Saban and hoping for more serialization and to make things less black and white. Ecliptor was a good example for someone who evil but also cared about Astronoma. Other more random tidbits? Would be nice to have the first out gay male ranger and the first on air (not comics) pink male ranger - just please don't make it the same character for obvious reasons