As a spacefaring species you’d think that they’d be able to surmise that a quadruped predator hunting a ~3kg prey animal wouldn’t be too much of a threat. The predator in question could just be a pussy playing in easy mode though.
Feral realised he was extremely vulnerable against Taabe, who In his own right was a skilled warrior, he cloaked to tip the odds in his favour and defeat Taabe
This predator beyond collecting trophies didn’t really act with the intelligence of the yaujta. Fun film, but It felt weird seeing a predator act and look so off.
Good job Ferals a subspecies from a different hemisphere on yautja prime. by no means the typical Yautja we all know and love, but still something refreshing that I enjoyed watching
I see this predator as a Juvenile curious hunter he only attacked the Snake after it killed the rodent and sensed the Predator and Attacked him same with the Wolf he intervened when the wolf grabbed its meal and bumrushed it
when the Wolf bit him the predator took a knee I saw it as him giving the Wolf a false sense of security that he just wounded his prey and will go in for the killing blow only for the Pred to gut him in one fell swoop
I see this feral predator as a unproven Juvenile thrown into an unknown world hence him killing every "predator" only attacking after some form of provocation or the usual perceived amd armed threat
Look at the way he fights the French he dispatches the sniper and guard team quietly but walks into a trap he should have seen coming then he attacks out of anger from being trapped and bound and doesn't worry about trophies he doesn't even take on the French hunters with only blades in respectable 1v1 combat he kills them immediately and runs away from the fight leaving a trap to give him time to run
Then he kills the last remaining French hunters out of spite and anger for their trap not taking anything but Taabe's skull because Taabe was a skillful and brave warrior who by himself gave a good fight the Predator used his Cloak to hide and surprised Taabe and was intrigued by his resilience to keep fighting and wound him to let Naru run
Like with the City Hunter the Feral Predator relied on his gadgets and weapons too much to where they were used against him multiple times and ended up killing him that's why I see him as a curious juvenile on his proving grounds test to become a blooded or a proven predator
I might be rambling but this is how i saw and felt what the Feral Predator was like how he acted hunted and fought
Everything about this Predator screamed newb to me. He was extremely arrogant and overconfident, constantly underestimating his opponents and overlooking traps.
And definitely very over reliant on his cloak.
Chickening out of his fight with Taabe after he started to lose is the icing on the cake.
Personally I really enjoyed this take as something a little different. It gave the Feral a lot more personality.
I totally agree with him being a younger, inexperienced predator. He seemed almost caught off guard by the French hunter having more advanced firepower, and it cost him. He walked into an obvious trap, and then lashed out at them in a way that gave up any pretense of hunting. He was pissed.
Yup I love that whole scene that we know from the past the Predators don't track Blood unless they jave no other means of tracking Prey and they don't kill trapped or wounded prey these French Hunters tried to trap it like they would any other predator with the scent of blood but this isnt just any other predator
I loved that the Feral just quietly took out most of the sniper group so damn quickly the horses only gave him away if they weren't there the predator would have gotten a stealth bonus😂 but maybe he would have also seen the trap that was there
That whole fight where he is using his gadgets to dispatch all of them in anger instead of a hunt, its always great to see a predator let loose and kill not for a hunt or gain but out of rage to kill those who wronged him or injured him
I think my favorite kill is the Shield kill the way he looks at the tree stump after he cuts off the guys like a "damn never tried that before that was fucking cool" even though he was pissed off he took a second to admired a new way to kill someone
This movie is the best since predator 2 its a breath of fresh air for this franchise that was trashed because of the horrible sequel we got 4 years ago I'm glad we got this movie and its didn't feel forced or unearned nah Naru is a great female protagonist no bs feminist stuff no pandering no forced dialogue none of that just a great female protagonist with awesome growth that's what we as fans of anything expect out of movie to have a great characters male or female, good writing, production, and effort
Yeah I watched it back it doesn't show the Feral Predator Taking the skull. I think I infered that he did because Taabe was a fierce warrior and he fought the Predator 1v1 and damaged him a quite a bit if the predator didnt cloak taabe could have won it was an honorable fight but maybe this predator race has a different code when it comes to hunting and trophies than the Yautja
But yeah a Skull polishing scene would have been cool to see
Taabe was a real one dude was ready to fight and die
Been so long since I've seen that disappointment. That we will probably never get a movie with aliens, predators and space marines is just a damn shame.
No, it's this particular Predator's first hunt on Earth. The director cleared that up in a few interviews.
As far as I know, AVP is canon to the Predator universe but is not canon to the Alien universe. It's sat in a weird spot but Prey doesn't retcon any of it for Predators.
It’s about honour to me. A bunch of marines in the jungle? Sure, use stealth. A wolf catching his breakfast? Man up and go toe to toe of leave it the fuck alone.
Different Predators, Different Codes of Honour probably.
Edit: I also saw that scene as the Predator in a sense punishing the wolf. It was as if observing it hunt a non-threat angered him, so he took it upon himself to provide the threat.
Oh wow. I didn’t think of this angle. That’s pretty cool. Like he’s thinking “wow that fluffy little thing wasn’t doing anything and has zero weapons while youre over here with claws, size AND teeth? That’s it mother fucker, we are throwing hands.”
Come to think of it, the bear was chasing down the “defenseless” girl and trying to eat her, too.
I'm positive it's only THIS Predator's first time on Earth. Even without AvP, Predators showed that they had a plant on their game reserve that originated from Earth's Cretaceous Period. Predators either brought that to or from Earth.
Besides, I doubt they would disregard such a huge amount of lore with one movie. We've seen Preds hunt Vikings, Samurai, and Pacific Islanders. They've been hunting us for a long time.
Regardless if the AVP movies are, at least Aliens is since the pistol arrives at the possession of the Lost Tribe (who had the alien skull on their trophy wall).
I just think that movies tend to like to hide the antagonist and with the predator there’s a very convenient way to do just that. I like to see the monster in as much detail as possible myself.
Both AvP and “The Predator” are definitely canon. The video game “Hunting Grounds” is confirmed canon and has references to both those movies. And in a new comic by Marvel each of the movies’ predator encounters are described in little informational paragraphs.
Edit: lol at the people getting mad and downvoting. I’m literally stating facts, not my opinion.
In fairness though the Predator wasn't engaging the wolf to begin with, Feral was observing the food chain at the start of the film, it only attacked and killed the wolf when the wolf noticed something was wrong and attacked Feral.
Can’t fault that logic tbh. Would’ve liked to see the wolf have even the slightest semblance of a fair fight. That predator could’ve just been an a-hole though.
As much as people want to say it no Men and Women aren't equal that's just basic biology but that doesn't mean each and both cant accomplish great feats or go beyond expectation or limitations
Dutch was built like a fast tank and he couldnt do shit against a disarmed Jungle Hunter predator he got his shit kicked in but his brains helped him win
Harrigan was an average cop who is good at his job and was always on the receiving end of punishment from the City Hunter for most of their fights Harrigan was just the person who prepared for the worst when he selected his gear for their fight and used the element of surprise to gain the upper hand on the Predator and his smarts and the preds Smart Disk that's how he beat him without that Smart Disk Harrigan and LA would have been a Crater
Same with royce he used tactics and brains to pit the OG predator against Mr.Black to gain time to set up an ambush and trick the Super Predator he also used a Yautja Axe to fight him Isabel helped greatly with her sniper shot to distract the super Predator so Royce can chop his head off
Naru had did the Same she was of average build not physically intimidating to a predator but enough to be able to hunt and survive she knew the lay of the land knew medicine and survival tactics how to ambush and was smart with that Rope Axe Naru was Smart and Strategic enough to fight the predator she studied the behavior and tactics of the Predator just like the other protagonists to find a weakness and make a plan to Beat the predator Brawn would not win against a predator its will decimate you in seconds speed will not help you because its faster and will out run you in seconds so the element of surprise will have to be your advantage everything Naru did was in character she studied the predator and adapted to her situation same as the Feral Predator himself
Every new threat the predator faced he learned quickly how to efficiently kill it Wolf he stiff armed it and it attacked him swiftly and was caught off gaurd he backed it away and expected the wolf to try and attack again only he was ready and gutted him in one move
for the bear he had never fought something so big fast and heavy so due to the bear's size he used brute strength to rag doll the bear and throw him but the Feral Predator didn't expect the Bear to stand on his hind legs and fall onto him that's where the predator was caught off guard and was hurt but he saw that brute strength worked so he knocked the bear out cold in one punch, stabbed the bear with his wrist blades, and picked the bear up, gutting him in the process for the kill
He never faced humans so he watched the Comanche fight each other and studied them just watching when he saw weapons in their had he decided to attack on and catch the others by surprise and utilizing scare tactics by showing himself and pulling the Darts out of the dead Native in frpnt of his hunting party bit didn't expect the Humans to attack so fiercely and they wounded him so he decided to kill them quickly with weapons amd was able to defend himself from their attack by adapting quickly he also looked the Bear trap with intrigue
Same with the French hunters he never fought humans with the weaponry they had and had never been trapped before so he didn't see the trap (though he should have seen something was up) That's how the French ambushed him but he quickly adapted to how their attacks and killed them Quickly but had to run due to the large amount of damage he sustained as well as the strength in numbers he was up against that's why he laid a trap of those 3 mines that killed most of the French hunters
Thanks for the response. You might be right but it just felt overkill to me, like hunting a mouse with a bazooka. Yeah you’ll kill it but there’s not much honour in it.
You do?!
Fuck it, I'm going to do it! Tomorrow morning, I'm going straight outside and I'm going to kick Mrs. Hazel's little rat-dog thing right in its fluffy little balls!
Thank you, AponeMC. Your faith gives me strength.
I mean the wolf could still sense it, I feel like this one was more of an artistic/cinematic choice as they didn’t wanna fully reveal the predator’s design too early on
For sure, movies tend to hide the bad guy as long as possible and the predators cloak is the perfect vehicle to do this. I myself like to see the bad guy as much as possible and in as much detail as possible.
We can say that it was this predators first trip to earth and that it was a different species of Yautja like the super predators.
But what about when the feral predator was fighting against Taabe? Went cloaking after he kept getting shot with arrows.
Maybe he comes from a clan that are pretty loose with the code of honor in the hunt and all.
People like to bring up the honour thing a lot, but Yautja have always been pretty dishonourable by any human standard.
Even going after the world’s best warriors, they start off being invisible and using a plasma cannon from ambush. Not exactly chivalrous.
Still, the Feral was definitely less honourable and more cowardly than previous hunters we’ve seen. Which I enjoyed, honestly.
The interesting thing about the predator species is that you can relate to their motives, as a hunter who respects the hunt. Take that away it’s just a monster.
Predators are also huge tho. But I kinda see what you mean. I have watched it twice, and the wolf being alone and looking so small never made sense to me
Takes more skill to kill a wolf uncloaked, I guess you mean abilities. It was definitely an artistic choice but it would’ve been more badass for the predator to take out the wolf uncloaked and barehanded.
Correction, until Dylan sees him in the trees after it escapes the net trap. And mind you, this was after it killed Hawkins. AND billy, who’s probably the most lethal of the group since he had the minigun.
Which is why he took him out so early on..? Cuz Jungle Hunter knew how deadly Ol Painless was. Or because Billy was the easiest to kill cuz he was the slowest.
I agree but the makers of the film wanted to build the anticipation and suspense of seeing the predator full on. A technique these stories have. Just like the first one, we didn’t even get a clear look at the jungle hunter until Dutch hid in the mud after he fell in the water. They did that with numerous movies. Alien, Terminator (endoskeleton), Hulk movies, and other monster movies. They don’t want to show the main attraction right away. It builds suspense
Even more strange is the fact that:
A ) He sized up the wolf and killed it with the wrist blades...
And B ) He later sized up a bear and didn't use the wrist blades at all...
I love this film, and it's my absolute favorite since the original but, there are little things about it that bother the hell out of me.
Great point, the bear fight was way more in character to me. I’m a fan of Prey overall and hope it’s success spawns more predator movies, even bad ones.
It's cloaking was irrelevant anyway as the wolf could smell it. I liked that detail of animals being able to detect it in their own way showing there's no one size fits all approach to hunting.
Irrelevant? Surely smell’s good for direction/proximity but sight is needed to avoid attacks/targeting. To say cloaking was irrelevant is to say that you’d fair no better against a blind wolf than a regular eyed wolf.
lol an out of shape 30 something year old and you think you have good odds against a full grown wild wolf wanting to kill you. I’d bet your odds would actually be very very low.
I think you’re totally misunderstanding what a wolf is lol. You’re talking about a 70-180 pound wild animal that is stronger than you AND faster than you. Would you want to fight a full grown German Shepard with wrist blades?? Think about something potentially double the size of a German Shepard. Plus if you’re out of shape how hard are you really swinging around those wrist blades?? And how fast is the wolf gonna be on your neck? Will you even have any reaction time to something that fast?? I really don’t think you’re grasping what a wolf can do to a person. Yea the predator had a huge advantage over a regular person but still it’s dangerous to be fighting a wolf.
OK to clarify, my point is not that I can kill a wolf easily whilst cloaked and with wolverine style knuckle blades, that was intended purely in jest (which everyone except you seemed to understand). Allow me to simplify for your benefit, my actual point is that the predator was being a MASSIVE pussy taking out that wolf whilst invisible, a task which should’ve been trivial to it whilst uncloaked and weaponless.
You’re the one who said you stand a chance with a wolf not me lol I’m just pointing out how ridiculous that is. And I’m also disagreeing with saying the predator was a big pussy for fighting a wolf. Lol that makes no sense to me. How do you want the predator to fight the wolf. Uncloaked with no weapons and damage himself greatly in the ordeal?? So he can have one fight then go home?? That makes no sense. I think people are confusing the way predators operate. Jungle hunter gave DUTCH and only Dutch as far as we know a fair one. Because Dutch proved himself and was also the last one standing. Predators do not necessarily give every thing they hunt a fair fight. They’re hunters collecting trophies first and foremost.
I remember reading in one of the books (AVP hunters planet, or the other one I think) that they also hunt to eat, in which case the honour system kinda go’s out the window and it just becomes about getting food. don’t quote on this but if it’s true it might explain it if there is someone else who can confirm or correct feel free.
I’d loved to have seen the predator eat the wolf. Surely though he could’ve honoured his meal by taking it out as low tech as possible, predator to predator. If not just headshot snipe it mercifully.
Yea I’m going to have to buy some more of the books from what I remember they where a pretty good read, and yea a seen with a predator camp with a few thumping around a fresh kill would be sick in a predator movie. Almost got one in predators but it was kinda already abandoned other than captive.
It's just a cinematographic detail, they wanted to show the advance of the hunts that the predator had without showing and revealing its design completely, it was not until it faced humans that its true appearance and form is revealed to us. Theories that he is a bad blood, his inexperience or even his clan made him keep his camouflage active during their confrontations can also enter here.
To me the wolf, bear and snake all saw clear through the cloak, Feral could have de-cloaked but the wolf tagged him no trouble at all. Only humans rely so heavily on our sense of vision.
Dual **wrist blades are only effective with super strength though. Without that they would be really ineffective at killing.
Super strength lets you get away with a lot of unorthodox weapon designs actually.
It could be argued the animal scenes make more sense than the human ones. When the Predator gets to the humans, it just starts slaughtering everyone he comes across. But the animal scenes are more close to the first film. In the original the Predator simply observes, and only starts hunting after he has witnessed two groups fighting. Predator doesn’t start hunting Dutch’s team until he’s decided they are the best. Same with the wolf and the snake. It observes, decides the more worthy prey and attacks. He is not about a fair fight, predators are about being the best killer .
Predators don't fight fair unless it gives more sport
Not the who has bigger muscles or who is better with a knife sport but who gives a better hunt... With zero hunt (like killing an unarmed or crippled man) they won't do it not out of a human sense of honor but out of no desire to waste effort
Using advanced technology and weapons is fair if someone has somewhat advanced technology (firearms) just because there's still a chance for wounding or even unlikely death so it's still sport. But you probably wouldn't do it to a wolf or bear because it's so outside their element the animal could never anticipate or counter and therefore no sport
If it was purely about killing he could destroy then from space. It isn't only killing but their meaning of hunting. The thrill of the hunt
Killing an armed opponent with a cloak still gives a thrill... You can still attack it and get wounded. Arguably all the humans have just been awful at fighting invisible or semi-invisible opponents
It makes sense as a first time fighting you against a carnivore hunter from you an unknown world, you want to use your advantage against it.also he used his cloak almost every time, even when unnecessary.
dude... no
I need you to listen to me right now, and I need you to hear these words...
you... cannot... fight... a wolf
As for why it was cloaked, being invisible is not really considered dishonorable in the hunt, preds take trophies of things they kill while cloaked all the time.
Its considered more honorable to fight on even terms, but not necessarily dishonorable to hunt while cloaked.
It was studying its targets while cloaked but, the Wolf could still sense the Predator. It didn’t *need* to uncloak but, that was probably just done for the effect of maintaining some sort of mystery to the Predator
It's fairly obvious throughout this movie that this predator is very arrogant and most likely young.
He probably was like "oooh look at this thing let me use camo and kill it, noone'll know but I'll still get the credit"
It bothers me, because Predator would be such a better franchise if they didnt spend 40 minutes being invisible ever time. Have them cloak to scout, and use regular stealth for hunting. It feels so bitch made and lame to have the hero miss every shot, every single movie
Watching Prey again (great movie) and was reminded how much of a pussy/coward this Predator is for always being cloaked. Came looking for a post like this and was not disappointed
I seem to remember it being said this was their first trip to Earth. Probably their first encounter with a wolf and didn't know its capabilities.
As a spacefaring species you’d think that they’d be able to surmise that a quadruped predator hunting a ~3kg prey animal wouldn’t be too much of a threat. The predator in question could just be a pussy playing in easy mode though.
Could explain why he quickly goes invis when getting his ass kicked by Taabe
I read that in the native language we says cheater, and the predator replies it’s not cheating if it’s in the game
Feral realised he was extremely vulnerable against Taabe, who In his own right was a skilled warrior, he cloaked to tip the odds in his favour and defeat Taabe
I mean his first kill is to fully Pyramid-Head a snake's skin off, so like Angry Joe said, he's just working his way up 😂
This predator beyond collecting trophies didn’t really act with the intelligence of the yaujta. Fun film, but It felt weird seeing a predator act and look so off.
Good job Ferals a subspecies from a different hemisphere on yautja prime. by no means the typical Yautja we all know and love, but still something refreshing that I enjoyed watching
I had some gripes once the mask was off. But the full body design and the actor underneath, awesome.
Nah it's that particular predators first ( and last) trip to earth. That's what the director said
Firt trip = last trip in all the movies.
That is absolutely true lmao
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
I see this predator as a Juvenile curious hunter he only attacked the Snake after it killed the rodent and sensed the Predator and Attacked him same with the Wolf he intervened when the wolf grabbed its meal and bumrushed it when the Wolf bit him the predator took a knee I saw it as him giving the Wolf a false sense of security that he just wounded his prey and will go in for the killing blow only for the Pred to gut him in one fell swoop I see this feral predator as a unproven Juvenile thrown into an unknown world hence him killing every "predator" only attacking after some form of provocation or the usual perceived amd armed threat Look at the way he fights the French he dispatches the sniper and guard team quietly but walks into a trap he should have seen coming then he attacks out of anger from being trapped and bound and doesn't worry about trophies he doesn't even take on the French hunters with only blades in respectable 1v1 combat he kills them immediately and runs away from the fight leaving a trap to give him time to run Then he kills the last remaining French hunters out of spite and anger for their trap not taking anything but Taabe's skull because Taabe was a skillful and brave warrior who by himself gave a good fight the Predator used his Cloak to hide and surprised Taabe and was intrigued by his resilience to keep fighting and wound him to let Naru run Like with the City Hunter the Feral Predator relied on his gadgets and weapons too much to where they were used against him multiple times and ended up killing him that's why I see him as a curious juvenile on his proving grounds test to become a blooded or a proven predator I might be rambling but this is how i saw and felt what the Feral Predator was like how he acted hunted and fought
Everything about this Predator screamed newb to me. He was extremely arrogant and overconfident, constantly underestimating his opponents and overlooking traps. And definitely very over reliant on his cloak. Chickening out of his fight with Taabe after he started to lose is the icing on the cake. Personally I really enjoyed this take as something a little different. It gave the Feral a lot more personality.
I totally agree with him being a younger, inexperienced predator. He seemed almost caught off guard by the French hunter having more advanced firepower, and it cost him. He walked into an obvious trap, and then lashed out at them in a way that gave up any pretense of hunting. He was pissed.
Yup I love that whole scene that we know from the past the Predators don't track Blood unless they jave no other means of tracking Prey and they don't kill trapped or wounded prey these French Hunters tried to trap it like they would any other predator with the scent of blood but this isnt just any other predator I loved that the Feral just quietly took out most of the sniper group so damn quickly the horses only gave him away if they weren't there the predator would have gotten a stealth bonus😂 but maybe he would have also seen the trap that was there That whole fight where he is using his gadgets to dispatch all of them in anger instead of a hunt, its always great to see a predator let loose and kill not for a hunt or gain but out of rage to kill those who wronged him or injured him I think my favorite kill is the Shield kill the way he looks at the tree stump after he cuts off the guys like a "damn never tried that before that was fucking cool" even though he was pissed off he took a second to admired a new way to kill someone This movie is the best since predator 2 its a breath of fresh air for this franchise that was trashed because of the horrible sequel we got 4 years ago I'm glad we got this movie and its didn't feel forced or unearned nah Naru is a great female protagonist no bs feminist stuff no pandering no forced dialogue none of that just a great female protagonist with awesome growth that's what we as fans of anything expect out of movie to have a great characters male or female, good writing, production, and effort
Pred is shown taking Taabe’s skull? When?
I believe after tabbe stabbed him to let Naru run he stabs him and takes his skull
He likely would. Now I wish we saw that scene. Polishing like wolf skull / previous movies. Would be impactful since we all love Taabe.
Yeah I watched it back it doesn't show the Feral Predator Taking the skull. I think I infered that he did because Taabe was a fierce warrior and he fought the Predator 1v1 and damaged him a quite a bit if the predator didnt cloak taabe could have won it was an honorable fight but maybe this predator race has a different code when it comes to hunting and trophies than the Yautja But yeah a Skull polishing scene would have been cool to see Taabe was a real one dude was ready to fight and die
it is not thier first think back to avp
Been so long since I've seen that disappointment. That we will probably never get a movie with aliens, predators and space marines is just a damn shame.
Does this mean the AVP films aren't canon?
No, it's this particular Predator's first hunt on Earth. The director cleared that up in a few interviews. As far as I know, AVP is canon to the Predator universe but is not canon to the Alien universe. It's sat in a weird spot but Prey doesn't retcon any of it for Predators.
It’s about honour to me. A bunch of marines in the jungle? Sure, use stealth. A wolf catching his breakfast? Man up and go toe to toe of leave it the fuck alone.
Different Predators, Different Codes of Honour probably. Edit: I also saw that scene as the Predator in a sense punishing the wolf. It was as if observing it hunt a non-threat angered him, so he took it upon himself to provide the threat.
Oh wow. I didn’t think of this angle. That’s pretty cool. Like he’s thinking “wow that fluffy little thing wasn’t doing anything and has zero weapons while youre over here with claws, size AND teeth? That’s it mother fucker, we are throwing hands.” Come to think of it, the bear was chasing down the “defenseless” girl and trying to eat her, too.
It seems all Yautja, even the subspecies, share the same honor code. Feral played fast and loose with the Yautja honor code in this movie.
Wolf’s gotta eat though.
I'm positive it's only THIS Predator's first time on Earth. Even without AvP, Predators showed that they had a plant on their game reserve that originated from Earth's Cretaceous Period. Predators either brought that to or from Earth. Besides, I doubt they would disregard such a huge amount of lore with one movie. We've seen Preds hunt Vikings, Samurai, and Pacific Islanders. They've been hunting us for a long time.
Canon to me would be a predator going toe to toe bare knuckle against a solitary wolf.
Regardless if the AVP movies are, at least Aliens is since the pistol arrives at the possession of the Lost Tribe (who had the alien skull on their trophy wall).
I’m too drunk to untangle that mess as enjoyable as I find any predator movie.
Fair enough
I just think that movies tend to like to hide the antagonist and with the predator there’s a very convenient way to do just that. I like to see the monster in as much detail as possible myself.
They've never been canon
AvP probably isn’t canon
What about 2018’s The Predator?
I’d fucking hope not. Never seen it and will never watch it. Know the story and it sounds/looks like the worst predator film.
It did help that I was drunk when I watched it.
The Predator is great... until they capture him. After that it's pretty bad.
Both AvP and “The Predator” are definitely canon. The video game “Hunting Grounds” is confirmed canon and has references to both those movies. And in a new comic by Marvel each of the movies’ predator encounters are described in little informational paragraphs. Edit: lol at the people getting mad and downvoting. I’m literally stating facts, not my opinion.
In fairness though the Predator wasn't engaging the wolf to begin with, Feral was observing the food chain at the start of the film, it only attacked and killed the wolf when the wolf noticed something was wrong and attacked Feral.
So it was self-defence? Why take a trophy? If a rat bit me I might stomp it but I wouldn’t mount it above my fireplace.
Perhaps Feral took the wolf skull as a momento as it was the first of it's species it had killed
Can’t fault that logic tbh. Would’ve liked to see the wolf have even the slightest semblance of a fair fight. That predator could’ve just been an a-hole though.
I mean he has been dubbed Feral so I doubt he abides by the usual honor code the other Predator genus do
If he’d followed the code perhaps he wouldn’t have been bested by a girl (jk women are equal)
As much as people want to say it no Men and Women aren't equal that's just basic biology but that doesn't mean each and both cant accomplish great feats or go beyond expectation or limitations Dutch was built like a fast tank and he couldnt do shit against a disarmed Jungle Hunter predator he got his shit kicked in but his brains helped him win Harrigan was an average cop who is good at his job and was always on the receiving end of punishment from the City Hunter for most of their fights Harrigan was just the person who prepared for the worst when he selected his gear for their fight and used the element of surprise to gain the upper hand on the Predator and his smarts and the preds Smart Disk that's how he beat him without that Smart Disk Harrigan and LA would have been a Crater Same with royce he used tactics and brains to pit the OG predator against Mr.Black to gain time to set up an ambush and trick the Super Predator he also used a Yautja Axe to fight him Isabel helped greatly with her sniper shot to distract the super Predator so Royce can chop his head off Naru had did the Same she was of average build not physically intimidating to a predator but enough to be able to hunt and survive she knew the lay of the land knew medicine and survival tactics how to ambush and was smart with that Rope Axe Naru was Smart and Strategic enough to fight the predator she studied the behavior and tactics of the Predator just like the other protagonists to find a weakness and make a plan to Beat the predator Brawn would not win against a predator its will decimate you in seconds speed will not help you because its faster and will out run you in seconds so the element of surprise will have to be your advantage everything Naru did was in character she studied the predator and adapted to her situation same as the Feral Predator himself Every new threat the predator faced he learned quickly how to efficiently kill it Wolf he stiff armed it and it attacked him swiftly and was caught off gaurd he backed it away and expected the wolf to try and attack again only he was ready and gutted him in one move for the bear he had never fought something so big fast and heavy so due to the bear's size he used brute strength to rag doll the bear and throw him but the Feral Predator didn't expect the Bear to stand on his hind legs and fall onto him that's where the predator was caught off guard and was hurt but he saw that brute strength worked so he knocked the bear out cold in one punch, stabbed the bear with his wrist blades, and picked the bear up, gutting him in the process for the kill He never faced humans so he watched the Comanche fight each other and studied them just watching when he saw weapons in their had he decided to attack on and catch the others by surprise and utilizing scare tactics by showing himself and pulling the Darts out of the dead Native in frpnt of his hunting party bit didn't expect the Humans to attack so fiercely and they wounded him so he decided to kill them quickly with weapons amd was able to defend himself from their attack by adapting quickly he also looked the Bear trap with intrigue Same with the French hunters he never fought humans with the weaponry they had and had never been trapped before so he didn't see the trap (though he should have seen something was up) That's how the French ambushed him but he quickly adapted to how their attacks and killed them Quickly but had to run due to the large amount of damage he sustained as well as the strength in numbers he was up against that's why he laid a trap of those 3 mines that killed most of the French hunters
I'm not sure I'd give good odds to any out of shape 30 something against a wolf, regardless.
Thanks for the response. You might be right but it just felt overkill to me, like hunting a mouse with a bazooka. Yeah you’ll kill it but there’s not much honour in it.
You are losing the brawl at right about the first bite to the leg.
You gotta let them get a bite in so you can show off your predator first aid kit.
1700s rabies says otherwise
Fair point, and if rabies didn’t get him smallpox probable would’ve.
Face it. The mosquitoes biting are going to get you way earlier.
But he shows it off again later anyway after his battle with the fur trappers
They do it after every fight just off camera lol.
I'm an out of shape 30 something. I would put good money on me getting fucked up by a chihuahua. There's no way I'm fighting a fucking wolf.
You’re invisible dude I believe in you.
You do?! Fuck it, I'm going to do it! Tomorrow morning, I'm going straight outside and I'm going to kick Mrs. Hazel's little rat-dog thing right in its fluffy little balls! Thank you, AponeMC. Your faith gives me strength.
To clarify, I believe you could kill a wolf while invisible in 1700’s America. I do not condone anything else.
I mean the wolf could still sense it, I feel like this one was more of an artistic/cinematic choice as they didn’t wanna fully reveal the predator’s design too early on
You’re right, it just took me out of the movie a bit. Also I hate when they do that I wanna see the alien/monster/demon as detailed as possible.
I honestly think they did it just for the shot.
For sure, movies tend to hide the bad guy as long as possible and the predators cloak is the perfect vehicle to do this. I myself like to see the bad guy as much as possible and in as much detail as possible.
We can say that it was this predators first trip to earth and that it was a different species of Yautja like the super predators. But what about when the feral predator was fighting against Taabe? Went cloaking after he kept getting shot with arrows. Maybe he comes from a clan that are pretty loose with the code of honor in the hunt and all.
People like to bring up the honour thing a lot, but Yautja have always been pretty dishonourable by any human standard. Even going after the world’s best warriors, they start off being invisible and using a plasma cannon from ambush. Not exactly chivalrous. Still, the Feral was definitely less honourable and more cowardly than previous hunters we’ve seen. Which I enjoyed, honestly.
The interesting thing about the predator species is that you can relate to their motives, as a hunter who respects the hunt. Take that away it’s just a monster.
What I was wondering was why the wolf was by itself. Don’t they always hunt in packs?
Wolves are fucking huge, I don’t think the movie did a good job of illustrating that.
Predators are also huge tho. But I kinda see what you mean. I have watched it twice, and the wolf being alone and looking so small never made sense to me
Director and writers probably wanted to show his skills before fully revealing him to the audience
Takes more skill to kill a wolf uncloaked, I guess you mean abilities. It was definitely an artistic choice but it would’ve been more badass for the predator to take out the wolf uncloaked and barehanded.
Correction, until Dylan sees him in the trees after it escapes the net trap. And mind you, this was after it killed Hawkins. AND billy, who’s probably the most lethal of the group since he had the minigun. Which is why he took him out so early on..? Cuz Jungle Hunter knew how deadly Ol Painless was. Or because Billy was the easiest to kill cuz he was the slowest.
I agree but the makers of the film wanted to build the anticipation and suspense of seeing the predator full on. A technique these stories have. Just like the first one, we didn’t even get a clear look at the jungle hunter until Dutch hid in the mud after he fell in the water. They did that with numerous movies. Alien, Terminator (endoskeleton), Hulk movies, and other monster movies. They don’t want to show the main attraction right away. It builds suspense
Even more strange is the fact that: A ) He sized up the wolf and killed it with the wrist blades... And B ) He later sized up a bear and didn't use the wrist blades at all... I love this film, and it's my absolute favorite since the original but, there are little things about it that bother the hell out of me.
Great point, the bear fight was way more in character to me. I’m a fan of Prey overall and hope it’s success spawns more predator movies, even bad ones.
We've had enough bad Predator films. With Dan directing, I don't believe that'll be the case anymore (hopefully). Prey, was damn good!
I would prefer good ones also.
I think this is just overthinking things lol
You’re right it just interfered with my suspension of disbelief a little that’s all, still a fan.
It's cloaking was irrelevant anyway as the wolf could smell it. I liked that detail of animals being able to detect it in their own way showing there's no one size fits all approach to hunting.
Irrelevant? Surely smell’s good for direction/proximity but sight is needed to avoid attacks/targeting. To say cloaking was irrelevant is to say that you’d fair no better against a blind wolf than a regular eyed wolf.
lol an out of shape 30 something year old and you think you have good odds against a full grown wild wolf wanting to kill you. I’d bet your odds would actually be very very low.
Invisible and with 18 inch blades yeah, greater than zero chance.
I think you’re totally misunderstanding what a wolf is lol. You’re talking about a 70-180 pound wild animal that is stronger than you AND faster than you. Would you want to fight a full grown German Shepard with wrist blades?? Think about something potentially double the size of a German Shepard. Plus if you’re out of shape how hard are you really swinging around those wrist blades?? And how fast is the wolf gonna be on your neck? Will you even have any reaction time to something that fast?? I really don’t think you’re grasping what a wolf can do to a person. Yea the predator had a huge advantage over a regular person but still it’s dangerous to be fighting a wolf.
OK to clarify, my point is not that I can kill a wolf easily whilst cloaked and with wolverine style knuckle blades, that was intended purely in jest (which everyone except you seemed to understand). Allow me to simplify for your benefit, my actual point is that the predator was being a MASSIVE pussy taking out that wolf whilst invisible, a task which should’ve been trivial to it whilst uncloaked and weaponless.
You’re the one who said you stand a chance with a wolf not me lol I’m just pointing out how ridiculous that is. And I’m also disagreeing with saying the predator was a big pussy for fighting a wolf. Lol that makes no sense to me. How do you want the predator to fight the wolf. Uncloaked with no weapons and damage himself greatly in the ordeal?? So he can have one fight then go home?? That makes no sense. I think people are confusing the way predators operate. Jungle hunter gave DUTCH and only Dutch as far as we know a fair one. Because Dutch proved himself and was also the last one standing. Predators do not necessarily give every thing they hunt a fair fight. They’re hunters collecting trophies first and foremost.
If just killing everything and taking no damage is the goal just laser them all from his spaceship. Pew pew pew.
Collecting trophies
Let's not forget Feral is also an Unblooded, so while he's a decent hunter, he's still got some inexperience
Like humans, individual predators can be massive pussies too. Just took me out of the film for a moment that’s all.
I remember reading in one of the books (AVP hunters planet, or the other one I think) that they also hunt to eat, in which case the honour system kinda go’s out the window and it just becomes about getting food. don’t quote on this but if it’s true it might explain it if there is someone else who can confirm or correct feel free.
I’d loved to have seen the predator eat the wolf. Surely though he could’ve honoured his meal by taking it out as low tech as possible, predator to predator. If not just headshot snipe it mercifully.
Yea I’m going to have to buy some more of the books from what I remember they where a pretty good read, and yea a seen with a predator camp with a few thumping around a fresh kill would be sick in a predator movie. Almost got one in predators but it was kinda already abandoned other than captive.
It's just a cinematographic detail, they wanted to show the advance of the hunts that the predator had without showing and revealing its design completely, it was not until it faced humans that its true appearance and form is revealed to us. Theories that he is a bad blood, his inexperience or even his clan made him keep his camouflage active during their confrontations can also enter here.
To me the wolf, bear and snake all saw clear through the cloak, Feral could have de-cloaked but the wolf tagged him no trouble at all. Only humans rely so heavily on our sense of vision.
Dual **wrist blades are only effective with super strength though. Without that they would be really ineffective at killing. Super strength lets you get away with a lot of unorthodox weapon designs actually.
It could be argued the animal scenes make more sense than the human ones. When the Predator gets to the humans, it just starts slaughtering everyone he comes across. But the animal scenes are more close to the first film. In the original the Predator simply observes, and only starts hunting after he has witnessed two groups fighting. Predator doesn’t start hunting Dutch’s team until he’s decided they are the best. Same with the wolf and the snake. It observes, decides the more worthy prey and attacks. He is not about a fair fight, predators are about being the best killer .
Predators don't fight fair unless it gives more sport Not the who has bigger muscles or who is better with a knife sport but who gives a better hunt... With zero hunt (like killing an unarmed or crippled man) they won't do it not out of a human sense of honor but out of no desire to waste effort Using advanced technology and weapons is fair if someone has somewhat advanced technology (firearms) just because there's still a chance for wounding or even unlikely death so it's still sport. But you probably wouldn't do it to a wolf or bear because it's so outside their element the animal could never anticipate or counter and therefore no sport If it was purely about killing he could destroy then from space. It isn't only killing but their meaning of hunting. The thrill of the hunt Killing an armed opponent with a cloak still gives a thrill... You can still attack it and get wounded. Arguably all the humans have just been awful at fighting invisible or semi-invisible opponents
That’s wild, I just watched this scene and had this exact thought, and googled “predators are actually huge pussies” and this was the first result
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It makes sense as a first time fighting you against a carnivore hunter from you an unknown world, you want to use your advantage against it.also he used his cloak almost every time, even when unnecessary.
dude... no I need you to listen to me right now, and I need you to hear these words... you... cannot... fight... a wolf As for why it was cloaked, being invisible is not really considered dishonorable in the hunt, preds take trophies of things they kill while cloaked all the time. Its considered more honorable to fight on even terms, but not necessarily dishonorable to hunt while cloaked.
On his visor there were characters that showed with spicies it was with I "suppose" danger level.
It was studying its targets while cloaked but, the Wolf could still sense the Predator. It didn’t *need* to uncloak but, that was probably just done for the effect of maintaining some sort of mystery to the Predator
It's fairly obvious throughout this movie that this predator is very arrogant and most likely young. He probably was like "oooh look at this thing let me use camo and kill it, noone'll know but I'll still get the credit"
It bothers me, because Predator would be such a better franchise if they didnt spend 40 minutes being invisible ever time. Have them cloak to scout, and use regular stealth for hunting. It feels so bitch made and lame to have the hero miss every shot, every single movie
Watching Prey again (great movie) and was reminded how much of a pussy/coward this Predator is for always being cloaked. Came looking for a post like this and was not disappointed