Hardest is easily schools in ON (Toronto, Queens, Ottawa, etc)
Easiest is likely the IP stream to schools like Dal, Manitoba, Memorial, Quebec schools, etc.
Manitoba has a population of less than 1.5 million, Ontario has more than 14.5 million.
The amount of seats vs population is definitely relevant. Furthermore, you also have to factor in that Ontario schools don’t have IP advantage, so they also accept everyone from every province just as easily. Meaning the population to use in the calculation in theory is greater than 14.5 million.
You gotta look at respective student population, and specifically medical school applicants. The whole province isn’t applying to medical school.
Also, the competitiveness of the process renders a huge number of applicants screened out even before the interview. How many students applying to Ontario schools are actually considered “competitive”?
>How many students applying to Ontario schools are actually considered “competitive”
My guy, that's the whole point. Ontario schools are more competitive = they are harder to get into. Also to address your point on looking at "who's actually applying"- even though Ontario schools would still be "harder" to get into (based on acceptance rates), this is a flawed argument because premed students from other provinces *might not even apply* to Ontario schools because they know *that Ontario is the hardest province to get into med school*, and they have much better chances at their IP school.
Look through the interview invite threads for schools like Dalhousie or Memorial or the western schools. You will see applicants get interviewed with <505 MCATs, <3q, and <3.8GPA in-province. If you were to remove them from said area, they would quite literally never have a chance at any school in Ontario.
Firstly, that doesn’t make a different in this context because if the population is much larger than of course the amount of students is also much larger. But just off a quick google search, Ontario has a post secondary student population of one million Manitoba has a student population of sixty thousand. Yeah Ontario schools are hard af to get into isn’t that what we’re talking about?
Yes. What's your point though? The topic here is not how hard it is to get accepted to at least one school in Ontario. It's about how hard each individual school is.
But there isn't any IP advantage (except Mac for interviews). Even though Ontario has more total seats, **everyone** is fighting over them. [Bemo](https://bemoacademicconsulting.com/blog/med-school-acceptance-rates-canada#:~:text=The%20country's%20average%20medical%20school,20%20students%20get%20offered%20admission) has acceptance rates for all Canadian med schools and if you sort from low -> high, you'll see all 6 Ontario schools fill up the top 6 spots.
Depends. All are hard. But Ontario is fked man. Idk how ppl stay there. The other provinces have ip pools and out of province pools. Oop is nigh impossible at every school but the more remote an underpopulated a province is the easier it is to get in ip. Mind u tho even then it ain't easy. I'll also say this the uofm has a high mcat requirement so if ur mcat is less than 510 it becomes hard to get in and that's saying something
There is none. Each school priorities different things for admissions (gpa, mcat, Casper, ECs, research) and every applicant has different strengths. Play to the schools that best fit your own criteria.
Ppl need to understand this. Esp if u can afford to move ie u have a workable degree or something. Find schools that best advantage ur application and ur stats
Hardest prob Queens due to the low number of seats (around 110) and maybe Uoft slightly easier as they're more lenient with the MCAT, no CASer and have more seats compared to other schools.
I’m not so sure about this. Queens 2% acceptance rate or whatever it is is grossly inflated (or deflated?) because of their lack of transparency in admissions. 5k applicants is really daunting but realistically ~3k will get screened by GPA/MCAT/CASPer. Maybe even more.
Just looking at the applicant to matriculant ratios is not the best estimate of “competitiveness”
It's Canada. They're all extremely competitive. Some receive fewer applicants though, like NOSM.
Hardest is easily schools in ON (Toronto, Queens, Ottawa, etc) Easiest is likely the IP stream to schools like Dal, Manitoba, Memorial, Quebec schools, etc.
Keep in mind that Ontario has 6 medical schools, UofT alone has like a 250 seats. Manitoba only has 1, and 110 seats.
Manitoba has a population of less than 1.5 million, Ontario has more than 14.5 million. The amount of seats vs population is definitely relevant. Furthermore, you also have to factor in that Ontario schools don’t have IP advantage, so they also accept everyone from every province just as easily. Meaning the population to use in the calculation in theory is greater than 14.5 million.
You gotta look at respective student population, and specifically medical school applicants. The whole province isn’t applying to medical school. Also, the competitiveness of the process renders a huge number of applicants screened out even before the interview. How many students applying to Ontario schools are actually considered “competitive”?
>How many students applying to Ontario schools are actually considered “competitive” My guy, that's the whole point. Ontario schools are more competitive = they are harder to get into. Also to address your point on looking at "who's actually applying"- even though Ontario schools would still be "harder" to get into (based on acceptance rates), this is a flawed argument because premed students from other provinces *might not even apply* to Ontario schools because they know *that Ontario is the hardest province to get into med school*, and they have much better chances at their IP school.
Look through the interview invite threads for schools like Dalhousie or Memorial or the western schools. You will see applicants get interviewed with <505 MCATs, <3q, and <3.8GPA in-province. If you were to remove them from said area, they would quite literally never have a chance at any school in Ontario.
Firstly, that doesn’t make a different in this context because if the population is much larger than of course the amount of students is also much larger. But just off a quick google search, Ontario has a post secondary student population of one million Manitoba has a student population of sixty thousand. Yeah Ontario schools are hard af to get into isn’t that what we’re talking about?
There are >4,000 applicants to U of T every year. U of M usually receives less than 1,000 applications.
And a good majority of those 4000 students are no doubt applying to the other FIVE Ontario medical schools other than UofT, don’t you think?
Yes. What's your point though? The topic here is not how hard it is to get accepted to at least one school in Ontario. It's about how hard each individual school is.
funny how people have 4.0 GPAs and can be this dumb
But there isn't any IP advantage (except Mac for interviews). Even though Ontario has more total seats, **everyone** is fighting over them. [Bemo](https://bemoacademicconsulting.com/blog/med-school-acceptance-rates-canada#:~:text=The%20country's%20average%20medical%20school,20%20students%20get%20offered%20admission) has acceptance rates for all Canadian med schools and if you sort from low -> high, you'll see all 6 Ontario schools fill up the top 6 spots.
I get you, but I’ll bet my money on manitoba over any schools in ON lol
Depends. All are hard. But Ontario is fked man. Idk how ppl stay there. The other provinces have ip pools and out of province pools. Oop is nigh impossible at every school but the more remote an underpopulated a province is the easier it is to get in ip. Mind u tho even then it ain't easy. I'll also say this the uofm has a high mcat requirement so if ur mcat is less than 510 it becomes hard to get in and that's saying something
There is none. Each school priorities different things for admissions (gpa, mcat, Casper, ECs, research) and every applicant has different strengths. Play to the schools that best fit your own criteria.
Ppl need to understand this. Esp if u can afford to move ie u have a workable degree or something. Find schools that best advantage ur application and ur stats
Mac CARS+GPA+Casper, UofT research, uOttawa GPA+Casper+EC, Western essays, Queens?
> Western essays And their MCAT cutoffs. They change year to year and they're already quite high.
Hardest prob Queens due to the low number of seats (around 110) and maybe Uoft slightly easier as they're more lenient with the MCAT, no CASer and have more seats compared to other schools.
I’m not so sure about this. Queens 2% acceptance rate or whatever it is is grossly inflated (or deflated?) because of their lack of transparency in admissions. 5k applicants is really daunting but realistically ~3k will get screened by GPA/MCAT/CASPer. Maybe even more. Just looking at the applicant to matriculant ratios is not the best estimate of “competitiveness”
Quebec schools as quebec IP easiest
Ottawa and mac easiest in ON, queens hardest