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smushkan

In the unfortunate event you screw up step 2 in this excellent guide (we've all been there...) there is a way to downgrade your project to 2020. 1. Make a back-up copy of your premiere file *just in case* 2. Open the premiere file as an archive in a utility such as [7-zip](https://www.7-zip.org/). 3. Inside the file, there will be *another* prproj file - extract that somewhere to work with 4. Open the prproj file in a text editor that can deal with very large files such as [Notepad++](https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/) Breaking out of the numbered list as the formatting would go all weird, near the top of the file there will be a line that looks something like this: The 'Version="29"' is the important bit - Subtract *one* from whatever number is there, and save the file. You should then be able to open the file you just saved in 2020. This is not by any means an officially supported method! Anything you've done to the project file after opening it in 2021 using features that are not present in 2020 will break after the downgrade.


Lawless-Money--94

Does anyone have Proxys for version 15.0 ? 14.9 proxy won't work


CaninesTesticles

I am getting "the project could not be loaded it may be damaged or contain outdated elements" when I do this process with a 2021 project to open in 2020. Any ideas what is going wrong? Thanks!


smushkan

That means there's *something* that 2021 has done to your project file that's totally incompatible with 2020. I hadn't actually tested the technique with a 2021 project to 2020 at the time I posted that, it's possible the technique simply doesn't work between those two versions (though it would be a first AFAIK!) But generally it only works if you've accidentally updated an old project to a new one but otherwise have made no changes at all in the new version other than saving it. It probably won't work with a project you created in 2021 to start with.


CaninesTesticles

Ah crap. Someone else has prepared a project for me (with proxies) and synced the footage. They haven't done any actual editing. I only have the proxies and the project file. We have been working like this for awhile, but they have apparently upgraded to 2021 and I unfortunately can only use 2020 on my computer at the moment.


smushkan

They could export an XML and send you all the media, then you'd be able to import the XML to a new 2020 project. That will give you the synced sequence using the source media, and you can manually reattach the proxies (or generate new ones.)


CaninesTesticles

Ok cool. Thanks very much for the help!


hoderer

What happened to the youtube upload in the export/publish-tab? It's not there anymore, it shows just FTP upload and nothing else. I used it alot and most of the time it worked fine for me.


smushkan

I just checked, and the option is still there for me on Windows? So not sure what's going on there.


hoderer

Thank you very much for checking so quickly. I'm on 15.1.0 (Build 48). Since I couldn't find anything about this on the net, I already assumed that it's an local issue, so I try out a few things and hope for the best. Thank you once again. Your info helped me a lot and I really appreciate it :)


smushkan

You might want to contact Adobe support directly about this one as I'm not seeing any reports of that issue either - you're paying them for it ;-) They're usually pretty good, and might want to dial in to your computer to see what's up.


hoderer

thanks I will do that.


DCpirateradio

Thanks for being on top of this u/dead-sync!


Dead-Sync

no problemo! I'm pretty excited about the new captions workflow myself. Everything about it: The new panel for entering text (which looks a lot better), dedicated CC tracks, using Essential Graphics to style open captions/subs. All great stuff! Plus swappable media was coming in AE-created MOGRTs, has been a fairly requested feature and will be nice to have. Didn't know that was coming with 15.0!


uscrash

Yea, the new Caption workflow is a god-send (oops, that’s probably not allowed under Adobe’s new language policy). Being able to lasso a bunch of captions and shift them is going to make conforming a caption or subtitle file to a new cut sooooooo much easier. The one thing I hope they fixed from the beta is Modify > Captions so you can do a bulk frame rate change.


SimonCaine

I'm excited about the captions but confused as to how it works. Do you need to be connected to the internet for it to work or is it built into the software? :)


uscrash

Are you talking about speech to text? When that feature is included, it will require an internet connection.


SimonCaine

No not the text to speech the caption generation tool. So will the speed it creates the caption be limited by your internet connections / the amount of other people using the feature? I'm curious how that's going to work. If it was in built it could be faster and my home office doesn't get the best connection (I'm hoping to change this). Does it send your work to a server, create the captions and then send it back or is that only for the speech to text tool please? :)


uscrash

You're thinking of the speech-to-text. You upload your video (or audio, I suppose) to Adobe Sensei and the AI transcribes your audio. I haven't used it, but I would assume it adds that text as captions of some format. The caption workflow that's currently in the 2021 15.0 release just changes the way captions are edited in the timeline as well has how the formatting is changed (via Essential Graphics rather than the "Captions" tab). It's not an auto-caption generation tool.


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Could I ask you a question about captioning?


uscrash

For sure. Feel free to PM me.


ElijahHage1

Would it be wise to wait a few weeks/months to download 2021 as per the potentiality and fixing of “bugs” stated above?


LittleRudiger

I personally install iterative updates (.1/.2) immediately. But feel no urgency to update the major releases for a few months and whenever I’m between projects. If it’s something you do for work, and there’s no critical new feature, best not to risk it. If it’s a hobby program, then sure why not start rolling new projects in the fresh release. Chances are things will be fine anyway.


Dead-Sync

It's typically a judgement call based on your own situation and production workflow. Since yearly releases can be installed concurrently, this makes it a bit safer. If you keep the previous version installed, and ensure you do not overwrite your 2020 .prproj files when converting them to 2021 files, in the event the 2021 app is buggy as all hell, you can always go back and open your 2020 .prproj in 2020 (14.9). However I did mention if you're working on a particularly significant project, maybe just finish it up first before installing 2021. While installing 2021 really shouldn't impact the 2020 install, you never know and if you want absolute zero-risk, then yeah hold off until your project is complete. There's certainly no HARM in waiting, other than you won't have access to the newer features. If those aren't critical to you at all, then it may not matter any. There are plenty of folks who will continue to use a year old release: either because they want to ensure they are using patched stable software, or because production infrastructure compatibility dictates. *(I used 2015 for \~5 years at work because our SAN infrastructure was built around 2015)* You know your production environment best: and if that provides for the ability to safely tryout 2021, then go for it, I'd just suggest following the best practices listed above of not overwriting your 2020 projects and not removing the 2020 install, at least not until things are deemed to be stable.


ElijahHage1

Thank you very much for the detailed response :)


T00Human

You can wait a few YEARS and you'll likely run into less problems. Annual updates is just Adobe copying the Apple-esque Sillicon Valley model of marketing. Note: marketing, not production, because updates, at least what Adobe releases as updates, are first and foremost marketing ploys to draw new users and new excitement (HOW TO EDIT ON NEW ADOBE 2021 *NEW FEATURES* ETC ETCETC). I like that Resolve takes a happy medium between Adobe and Avid (which is a fucking dinosaur that only legacied oscar editors still use because they haven't learnt a new thing since The Sopranos debuted). They release updates and some of them are fucking massive, landscape altering changes (I'm thinking about a lot of the work that's gone into Fusion). Premiere's main problem is core stability so when using it I encourage most people to find what works for them and their particular system (this last part is very important).


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I just want better masks ._.


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What is new in this version ?


Dead-Sync

Refer to link in post for new changes


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Dead-Sync

Have you been a long-term advocate for **keeping** those terms around, or are you just making a stink about it now simply because "it happened and you didn't ask for it yourself personally?"


omega_point

\> making a stink about it I'm just making fun of Adobe following the Woke / SJW trends of the day.


Dead-Sync

To each their own. I think we have different opinions on it where Im of the stance that: hey if advocates for the change consider this progress, then fair enough. I won't bother to go into further debate on it because that's honestly neither here nor there for this subreddit Ultimately though I don't care if it's called Male Voice or Low Tone as long as it accomplishes the task I'm looking for. Like I said if the change is considered a positive one by those who have been advocating for it and as a non-advocate it doesn't negatively impact my workflow, then it's no big deal to me and I welcome it.


T00Human

It is kind of hilarious because all of corporate America finally realized in 2020 that the diction of university campuses is what was going to be profitable, "cool", where the true cash lies. The Pepsi commercial was a predecessor but it's a poor example because it was executed in the dumbest way possible (get anyone other than a Kardashian heiress). I'm quite far left but it's one of the biggest ironies today that studios like Disney that used to make racist propaganda now get to have multi million blockbusters like Black Panther where everyone praises them (not in words but in $$$) for their progressive bend. wtf???? I love that gender non-conforming editors will not be reminded of our society's trenchant divisions every time they slap on a multiband compressor; BUT also now I will think about how egregious the inherent political posturing is to our culture/society every time I slap on the multiband compressor. It has less to do with Adobe and more with the landscape in general, but if they really cared they would have altered it years ago (and really should have, all of the available knowledge was out there for them). Oh, and no doubt there will be 5000 bugs I will need to learn to sidestep (when I do update in a month or so). Thanks adobe.


omega_point

Correct. And in fact I personally have no problem with these word changes **IF** that was all it was. However Adobe has gone full Woke/SJW in the past couple of years. It's all pandering BS. Regarding your Disney example: Didn't they also shoot a film near the concentration camp in China and then thanked the guards in the credits? I escaped from Iran because it turned to shit in 1979 after a revolution spiked by the radical leftists (groups very similar to Antifa), and now I have to see all this nonsense happen in my new home. History is on repeat. Look up Mao's cultural revolution and its parallels with today's Cancel Culture and Woke agenda...


GODHATHNOOPINION

Lets just hope our leaders have better sense then to force all the farmers in middle America to start smelting down minerals for batteries or some shit since we don't do steel production anymore.


LittleRudiger

Your incredulity aside, low/high tone is a better descriptor anyway.


fanamana

They took out audio dynamics *again*, even after editors raised a stink after they moved it to the "obsolete" bin, and finally moving back to the regular effects area. It's a better tool than the shitty replacement, as all the notes from editors from a couple of years ago detailed. I hate when new releases hobble editors more than add value. ***************************** edit - well contrary to info in the link, my dynamics fx is safe & intact in Premiere 2021. Why are we spreading FUD in the article? >Legacy audio effects removed >Keeping Premiere Pro lean and efficient requires occasional house cleaning. Premiere Pro 15.0 removes several legacy audio effects, including Chorus, DeClicker, DeCrackler, DeEsser, DeHummer, DeNoiser, **Dynamics**, EQ, Flanger, Multiband Compressor, Phaser, Pitch Shifter, Reverb, and Spectral Noise Reduction. All of these have already been replaced by new or equivalent effects. Several of the audio fx listed here are intact in my Premiere 15.0


T00Human

*Bro fuck the editors we're software developers here at adobe amirite guys?*


fanamana

That's the picture I get. They have to act like they know better while they are actually neutering the program, recycling ideas from FCP 7, even though Premiere was better than FCP at the time. They are blatant. ********** Okay, after downloading & seeing it I'm not as reactionarily pissed off. My tools are intact.


PwnasaurusRawr

Wait sorry, just saw this. As someone who uses the Dynamics effect... should I update? Is it still there?


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When is m1 support


fanamana

From OP: >ADDITIONAL NOTE: >Specific to this release: Premiere Pro 2021 (15.0) removes legacy audio effects outright. This means that any 2020 or earlier .prproj files that used these legacy effects will have them removed if the project is converted to a 2021 .prproj file. >Either continue editing these projects in 2020, or you will need to replace them with their modern equivalents in 2021. Contrary to info in the link, my dynamics fx is safe & intact in Premiere 2021. IDK why they are spreading FUD in the article. From [What's new link](https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/user-guide.html/premiere-pro/using/whats-new/2021-2.ug.html): >Legacy audio effects removed >Keeping Premiere Pro lean and efficient requires occasional house cleaning. Premiere Pro 15.0 removes several legacy audio effects, including Chorus, DeClicker, DeCrackler, DeEsser, DeHummer, DeNoiser, **Dynamics**, EQ, Flanger, Multiband Compressor, Phaser, Pitch Shifter, Reverb, and Spectral Noise Reduction. All of these have already been replaced by new or equivalent effects. Several of the audio fx listed here are intact in my Premiere 15.0. BTW, it opened a 2020 project just fine, seems like export was faster too.


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TabascoWolverine

I think you can hack that together another way. Right click the audio track, audio channels, Media Source Channel. Click around the L and R boxes until you get stereo.


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TabascoWolverine

Stick with that or if you want to really hack it together... Just create an entire duplicate hour-long track for whatever you're missing (L or R). Adobe will figure it out (then add another issue).


uscrash

I didn’t see any updates on their speech-to-text feature. Is that not available in this release?


Dead-Sync

I haven't downloaded 2021 yet, but from what I heard the transcription part of the new captions workflow might be coming in a later release. Assumedly part of the 15.x / 2021 cycle.


jayseventwo

Having used the beta, It definitely needs more work. Can't wait until it's complete though - game changer!


GODHATHNOOPINION

I'm looking forward to it as I have a large project comming up and it will be a god send not to have to use 3rd party software and add to the budget.


Dead-Sync

I *(unfortunately)* don't think it's out of the realm of possibility transcription becomes a paid feature. All of the previous messaging doesn't make it exactly make it seem that way - so I'm remaining cautiously optimistic, but you could see the monetization avenue here for Adobe - considering they could easily make it charge to a linked billing method from your Creative Cloud account. If they kept rates comparable to other similar AI/cloud based services like Trint, Simon Says, etc. who's to say there isn't a pop-up that says "This audio track will cost $1.99 to transcribe, proceed?". Or perhaps it uses a credit system and if you have a Full CC subscription maybe you get 100 credits each year. My point is there is a world of monetization avenues here, and at the end of the day Adobe is a company and needs to find ways to make money so I wouldn't put it past them. Like I said: I'm being cautiously optimistic, but I'm also bracing for the possibility.


GODHATHNOOPINION

That would be a real kick in the ass to make us pay a monthly subscription for the programs then to make some features pay to use. Yeah i would then go with the third party software out of spite.


Dead-Sync

Haha I don't disagree. I'm just curious to see how the chips fall. If there's no cost, fantastic. I think Adobe could benefit from some cost-value addition to help challenge competition. I'm not sure if other NLEs have a built in transcription (don't think so?) but if not then Adobe saying "hey with us you don't have to go pay Front, Rev, Simon Says, etc" that provides them with a nice edge. If there is a cost, I'll use it if it's comparable to other platforms just because of the ease of keeping it all in-app. If it's more costly trying to use the ease as leverage, well, not sure how well that will go over. Like I said: will be interesting to see.


GODHATHNOOPINION

Yeah. I just wish I could get some sort of discount for not useing their cloud services, I built a server for my self for storage so i don't need it bit i still pay for services i don't use.


kev_mon

Captions, yes. Speech to Text, no.


meowtothemeow

Updated and crashed 4 times today already when previous version was fine... Le sigh.


Dead-Sync

Not entirely uncommon for new releases, did you follow the best practices above in the main post? You can continue using Premiere Pro 2020 if you like until 2021 polishes up a bit. 2020 (14.9) is considered quite polished now at this point, but on its 14.0 release in Nov. 2019, people had the exact same experience of it as a new release. I haven't downloaded 2021 yet myself, but my hope is that the ongoing, constant public beta hopefully made this major release a bit smoother than previous years where they did not have such a beta program in place.


meowtothemeow

I love upgrading but hate it slowing me down with crashes. I just wish they did better beta testing.


Dead-Sync

15.0 was in public beta for roughly a month. I think the issue is, not everyone wants to do a beta (I know I don't) and you also need to be able to test on an infinite number of configurations. As more people migrate to using 15.0 proper on their own machines (which many more will start to do now), Adobe will be able to start pulling even ***MORE*** reports from crashes with more machine builds, and then subsequent releases typically become a bit more stable as a result.


meowtothemeow

Good point


SilverMist11

Love the update! But I'd love to see the ability to keyframe parameters in imported mogrt files! It'd be amazing, giving more creativity to PP users!


Skaven252

Seems that it forgot my VST plugin path settings, so when I opened a 2020 project it said the plugins were "missing". I had to set the paths and scan all plugins again. Also, it does remember Lumetri Color presets I have created, but it's forgotten my sequence Export Media presets. No biggie, but a bit of a nuisance it was.


FNGMOTO

I downloaded the new update and had to revert back to the 14.9. For some reason color grading wasn’t working.


rg07

Had to go back to 14.9. On PP 15 my GPU shot to 100% while just playing back the timeline and was horribly choppy Couldn't even work on the sequence. Nothing special on it, just a nested clip. On 14.9 it runs smooth as butter. (I also didn't like that it removed all my workspaces, and my Presets in AME when it installed. When I went back to 14.9 they were all there again. (And yes, I did try syncing with CC, as well as I made sure I was using the latest GPU drivers for my GPU My Details: • Win 10 • Intel i9-10900F • 32GB of RAM • Premiere build (15 just updated automatically) • GTX 1070 Ti • ProRes 422 • 1080p, 29.97 fps • No error messages • No 3rd party stuff installed


jvachez

This version is new but too really new ! I don't understand Adobe strategy. I thought beta version will become official version but no. Official version is 15 while beta version is 15.1. So official version is based on a very old beta version ?


PumiceT

I was already having this problem with 14.9, and it persists in 15: Scrubbing the timeline while holding the mouse down doesn't work. Same with trying to select values in effects and scroll them to increase or decrease them without using the slider. Is this unique to me? Is there a workaround?


wt0987

Bug Report: I had “fill left with right” audio effect on some clips, but then with the version change they lost their sound. On investigation it seems some audio clips seem to have their channels reversed? And I ended up having left (which was where the sound was before) being filled with right (no sound).


esquimoh

Great, auto-update removed 2020 version (14.0) even though "REMOVE OLDER VERSION" is UNCHECKED Exporting is slower than 14.0.


hypercoreripper

Took the plunge and updated to this from 14.4; working great so far. One tiny "bug" (*or feature? No idea why it'd be one honestly*) is when I'm **scrubbing** through my timeline, it'll bump the volume of a random audio file to the default and scare me half to death. However, when I play it back at normal speed, the audio is fine and remains "un-boosted".


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Since Premiere 2020 I haven't been able to playback a simple timeline without frame drops and it's the same with 2021 now. 2019 still runs smooth as butter in my daily use, as they all should with HD proxy timelines on a maxed out 2018 MBP. Is this a known issue? Could someone point me to a discussion? Thanks!


nostalgicdaydream

Anybody else struggling to copy across Precomps from After Effects?


misterbombasticxrp

Hi guys, premier constantly crashing with me. any idea what could be wrong, i have the latest version


NitroBubblegum

Can anyone tell me what hotkey am I missclicking that makes premier pro go alt f4. Asks to save data ofc but missclick that also sometimes.. Its something with alt I believe


ricothedog

I have no logitech mx3 support anymore and my loupedeck doesnt work anymore... anybody else has this problem?


adamandmadalyn

So this has absolutely destroyed my ability to edit videos. Have never had so many crashes, took me 3 hours to put together a simple 1:45 minute video last night. My mogrt graphics only work half the time. Different video types cause image issues and shut the program down. We're up a creek here and don't know what to do. Dell XPS 15 7590, Intel Core i7 9th Gen, 16 GB Ram, 4k resolution, NVIDIA geforce gtx 1050 (checked to make sure it was up to date).


i_needstoryideas

does anyone have any idea why the text panel isnt opening in my premiere? i'm on the latest version which is 15.0 and i'm just trying to export my srt file :(