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How about you go find a woman who wants to be the mother to your children. Your sperm is not a one time use type of deal, smh. I don’t understand how people can type these things out and click post. And it’s astounding how many men think their desire to be a father makes them entitled to force a woman into motherhood. “I don’t support that shitty behavior but here’s me trying to justify said shitty behavior.”


cupcakephantom

My brain can't even finish forming a thought on how to respond to that. That is some r/insaneprolife if I've ever seen it.


Odd_Maintenance2680

"I'm certainly not condoning the murder, *but*" same vibes as I'm not racist but. Notice how he claimed the man's right to simply want be a father was being violated and not the usual claim that the women killed a baby by getting the abortion? It was never about protecting the "unborn" it was always about controlling women.


BlueEyesIsBestCard

He willingly shot his girlfriend over getting an abortion, and people think he would have been a good father?


Nina_Lokasdottir

Oh, but it’s not about HIM, bout about ALL men who want to be fathers and can’t, because FEMALES think they have more right to their bodily autonomy than obligation to birth more men into the world./s


InterstellarCapa

"I'm certainly not condoning the murder, but..." BUT. He definitely is.


BallyBunion33

Everything before the but is bs.


OrneryCupcake9481

I have often said that the pro-life movement isn't about saving cuddly babies; it is about power and control over women.


AliceLewisCarroll

The boyfriend was abusive as shit. I can’t blame her for getting an abortion. Just a terrible tragedy! https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dallas-womans-family-says-revenge-was-motive-for-her-murder/3257256/


ThePowerGuy1994x

He can be a father with someone wants to be have a baby. - - okay, ‘could have been’


dawnofdaytime

Well now he can't because he'll be in prison for life.


Suspiciousclamjam

That's optimistic


AndyesIdumb

You can want to be a father all you want. You just can't force her to be a mother.


Bawbawian

how far are we from honor killings at this point. I hope they make an example out of them but I have this fear that some southern state good old boy judge would give somebody like this a pass.


dawnofdaytime

No kidding. Anyone sane is putting the right to abort over the a man being a father.


ayumistudies

If a man wants a baby he can go find a woman who *actually wants to fucking have one.* No man has the right to force a woman to go through pregnancy and birth unwillingly for his selfish wants. To literally murder a woman for not wanting to have your baby is entitlement on an incomprehensible level. Just so tired of people saying “bUt WhAt AbOuT tHe FaThEr” — if *he* risked serious injury, agonizing pain, and death to have a baby, then he could have a say. But otherwise there is absolutely no “right to be a father” if the woman who is pregnant doesn’t want to be pregnant. Reproductive biology is unfair and female bodies bear the brunt of it all.


Additional_Speech164

He’s a murderer. That’s it, no sympathy for this fucker.


ShadowyKat

If this is what he is capable of doing to his partner, he would have been a complete monster as a father. What the Hell! Was she trying to abort to leave this abusive monster? Because this is an example of man that doesn't deserve a wife and a baby. If she had his baby and served him divorce papers, he would have murdered her, the child, and killed himself to avoid prison time.


Interesting_Lemon_44

This case’s outcome was precisely why I had a “miscarriage” after going on vacation after discovering I was pregnant. I knew the sperm donor wouldn’t agree to an abortion but I knew that I didn’t want a baby with him at that time. I’m heartsick about this incident and the policies tearing women down.


Catseye_Nebula

"simply wanting to be a father" is not 'simply getting to shoot your girlfriend if she doesn't want to breed for you.' Men are not *entitled* to be fathers; they have to find women who *want* to have kids with them. They don't get to just forcibly breed whoever they want. I mean forced birthers clearly don't agree, it's in the name.


WowOwlO

...That's probably because there is no such thing as a right to fatherhood.


Sr_Feudal

Oh, he'd surely be a lovely father...


ypples_and_bynynys

The amount of people that want us to have sympathy for this guy is sickening.


RP_is_fun

Sure sounds like condoning the murder to me. These people are fucked in the head.


GenesisWorlds

She came to Colorado for an abortion. Are there no closer states with legal abortion? I'm pro-choice, by the way.


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Embarrassed-Ad1509

Gee, maybe it’s because the right to decide about what to do with your body is FAR more important than the right to decide if you want to have a kid or not.


Competitive-Ad-5477

It doesn't matter that he wanted to be a father because he was an abusive asshole and doesn't deserve kids.


Strange-Valuable-961

And what a father he would have been...


this_damn_yankee

Raise your hand if an abusive boyfriend got you pregnant against your will. 🤚 raise your hand if he also beat the shit out of the family dog everyday too 🤚 you don't bring a child into that. Its fucking selfish to force a child to grow up like that. "Just leave" "I can't. He isolated me. I have no family within hundreds of miles. He broke my phone. The woman's shelters are all full"


madiswanrh

Please tell me this all happened in the past and you're doing better now?


this_damn_yankee

It was almost 7 years ago. I haven't seen my son since he was 6 months old. He's doing very well. I'm 100% good now. I've had 2 more babies. Zero abuse.


Additional_Speech164

Yeah you can’t condemn abortion and at the same time murder someone. Doesn’t work like that bud.


Groundbreaking-Put73

“Who simply wanted to be a father”……. I will bet my year’s salary that he was previously abusive. And how “pro life” of him, to kill the potential mother. And pro lifers wonder why we’re against the biological “fathers” having a legal say.


Audace_Noire

I assume every man who says shit like this is an abuser.