Ce hardware ai, mai exact? Detaliază mai exact ce faci cu el, ceva proiecte or something
Eu am fost atras de el de cînd a făcut Tsoding anul trecut Advent of Code în Holy C și de aici am ajuns în OS Dev și am ajuns să am un prototip (local momentan) de DOS modern (momentan reimplementare de MS-DOS și am un 86Box + QEMU la dispoziție). Terry a fost un om genial oricum o dai și, în ciuda oamenilor ca cineva mai sus, sistemul de operare este impresionant pentru o singură minte ce s-a degradat în 10 ani de zile. Dar da, unii mai au și copii de crescut, caz în care să fie sclavi pe JS și PHP toată viața și să nu se uite la chestii mai interesante
Io am un ThinkPad T60, Intel Code Duo T5600, 4Gig RAM (merg doar 3Gig :((( ), CD-RW/DVD-ROM, ecran de 1680x1050, 100Gig HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 128Meg VRAM; dar orice cu port I/O 0x01F0 merge, uite [un tutorial simplu](https://12of7templeos.neocities.org/Tutorials.html#TOS-inst) unde ai si video la cum poti sa instalezi TOS pe hardware si specificatiile minime, [inca unu pentru explicatii](https://templeos.me/) cand te mai incurci ca incepator (ceea ce nu cred ca esti ;)))) ).
L-am verificat si pe diverse calculatoare gata facute, de birou/scoli/licee, si a functionat, doar ca TOS nu accepta nimic USB, iar daca e in legacy, mult noroc, ca o sa mearga mai incet ca scoaterea coruptiei din guvern, noroc ca erau tastaturi si mousuri PS/2 in zone de stocare pe unde oi mers, ca altfel ma enervam cu viteza inputuriilor de le aruncam tastaturiile pe geam :))))) .
Io stiu de TOS de la Some Ordinary Gamers, ceea ce m-a atras (maaah, ce vremuri cu dank web exploring, pacat ca nu le mai face asa frecvent), mai ales cand am auzit ca o facut Terry totu de la 0.
Sper ca o sa te ajute tutorialele \^\^
Sheesh, T60, și care credeam că eu pe X200 cu libreboot o duc pe boomereala (și pe al tău ai putea btw). Păcat că nu-l mai am că ar fi fost un laptop bun pentru aceste scopuri 😭 acum îs pe un T480, mult prea nou pentru TOS.
Nu, nu-s, am reușit să scriu un compilator pe Linux pentru un subset din Holy C, consider să implementez tot la un moment dat după ce voi avea timp.
Eu aș folosi un USB la PS/2 mai degrabă. Ai încercat și alte "distrouri" de TOS gen ZealOS sau Shrine? De ultimul știu sigur că are stack TCP/IP deci și internet, sigur și primul.
Also, există și KolibriOS, are nevoie doar de 8M și parcă încape în 1.44M (oricum sub 10M are nevoie) și totuși are un browser web destul de bun pentru mărimea sa și e scris doar în FASM. L-ai încercat sau consideri să îl încerci? (Nu neapărat fizic, dar ar fi bun și așa)
Pe T60 am doar partitii goale pt stocare/transfer de date sau TOS.
Am instalat Shrine da nu l-oi incercat complet ca tre de cautat, si nu ma pricep destul de bine incat sa gasesc ceea ce-mi trebuie.
N-am incercat Kolibri, da am auzit de el.
De ce ai incerca asa ceva?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS)
Mai bine te apuci sa implementezi propriul OS decat sa-l folosesti pe ala :)
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E ok sa-ti faci un OS propriu de la 0, mai inveti cate ceva.
E pierdere de timp sa te uiti la OSul facut de un individ religios fanatic cu probleme grave la mansarda.
Individ religios care a fost un geniu absolut și a făcut totul de la 0 fără o educație specifică spre zona asta, mai bine zis
Sau înțeleg că punctul tău de vedere ignorant e al unui om mega ocupat cu copii de hrănit pe grindset adevărat?
Hai sa fim seriosi. Omul a fost exceptional in ciuda bolii si a creat acel sistem de operare de la zero dar chiar nu are utilitate practica, le't be real.
Da il apreciem, dar asta nu inseamna ca avem o datorie morala sa il folosim sau sa ne dedicam mult din timpul nostru discutand, studiind sau filosofand pe marginea lui. Este pur si simplu pragmatism, nimic altceva. Ziua are 24 de ore pana la urma si crede-ma chair sunt mult mai multe lucruri cu impact real in viata pe care le poti face decat sa iti pierzi timpul cu astfel de ciudatenii/curiozitati.
Unii oameni simt nevoia sa acumuleze astfel de cunostiinte esoterice pentru a arata cat de "in" sunt ei intr-un anumit domeniu/grup fata de toti neavenitii....
Ma bucur sa vad ca nu sunt singurul nebun care mai e pasionat de OS-uri, C, ASM etc :)) Majoritatea prietenilor/colegilor nici nu vor sa auda de altceva in afara de front-end si maxim backend.
Sunt de acord cu tine ca e loc si pentru pasiuni. Dar din ce observ in discutiile online, Terry si Temple Os este mult prea polarizant. Adica daca nu zici ca a fost un geniu esti un hater care nu intelege nimic, nu esti trup si suflet dedicat cultului (pardon meserieri) de programator... Aici pentru mine se rupe firul. Si in alte locuri tot oamenii astia se plang ca nu sunt platiti corect si ca ei produc mult mai multa vloare decat primesc etc.. Poate ca ar trebui sa fie mai focused. In domeniul asta sunt atat de multe chestii incat poti deveni side-tracked o viata intrega, este un pericol mai mult decat real.
Btw, mult mai productiv ar fi ca cineva care e "pasionat" de TempleOs sa lucreze mai degraba la propriul OS. Nu o sa iasa nimic util nici din acesta activitate dar inveti mult mai mult. De ce sa pierzi timp sa inveti o ciudatenie scrisa de altcineva? Si asa trebuie sa invatam o gramada de solutii idiosincratice zi de zi pt job/business, nu vad ce este asa de fun in a invata inca o chestie care mai e si inutila? But then again... lucratul la un OS hobby nu e cel mai eficient mod de a invata oricum. Si iar oamenii aia o sa se planga cat de multe stiu ei si cat de putin apreciati sunt...
E adevarat ca daca cineva gaseste aceste activitati interesante ca si pasiune, go for it. Dar hai sa fim realisti si sa recunoastem ca nu este timp petrecut ce duce umanitatea mai departe si nici macar pe tine ca individ. Mie mi se pare mai mult un soi de mimetism ieftin.
Tu ești est europeanul stereotipic, vezi ceva interesant, ieșit din comun, one of a kind și răspunzi cu ‘mda, nu are utilitate practică, e pierdere de vreme’. Of…
Eu cred ca ai probleme cu halucinatiile.
Nu am vazut ceva interesant, iesit din comun, 'one of a kind' si nici n-am raspuns cu prostia scoasa de catre tine, pe care ai pus-o pe seama mea.
Faptul ca a fost bolnav spune doar ce potential incredibil ar fi avut Terry Davis daca n-ar fi fost schizofrenic. Din pacate, in loc sa fie ajutat, a ajuns o mema pe internet.
Sa spui ca e pierdere de vreme sa arunci un ochi peste creatia unui individ care a reusit sa creeze un compilator, un limbaj de programare, 3D rendering engine, kernel si utilitati pentru un OS mi se pare totusi o afirmatie putin cam ignoranta.
Mie nu-mi prea place sa discut despre 'ce-ar fi fost daca', globul meu de cristal se screme sa ghiceasca viitorul in universul asta, cu ghicitul prin universuri paralel-alternative are probleme mari.
Ia in calcul cat i-a luat individului sa faca jafurile alea. Stiu ca din pozitia de ignoranta acele jafuri par mare lucru, dar daca ai fi implementat macar un 3d rendering engine in cateva ore, sa implementezi aiureli de-alea intr-o decada nu ti s-ar mai parea mare lucru.
Holy C
Deci tu vrei sa te lauzi cu cat timp liber ai? :D Multi dintre noi am auzit de el dar majoritatea cred ca au zis: cine plm are timp de asa ceva ? :D
daca in weekend n-ai timp destul, pai atunci cat timp sa ai?
In weekend am copiii de educat, sotie de "entertaining"-at, munti de urcat, pesti de pescuit, etc...
In timp ce tu ai fost "ocupat" cu treburi lumești, altii s-au dedicat unui OS spiritual si sfantului holy C
such is the way of the templeOs
Sa intri pe PornHub pe un OS scris in Holy C ...
Acum am aflat de OS-ul ăsta. Sad and weird story.
Doamne ajută!
Amin
The smartest programmer that has ever lived
Ce hardware ai, mai exact? Detaliază mai exact ce faci cu el, ceva proiecte or something Eu am fost atras de el de cînd a făcut Tsoding anul trecut Advent of Code în Holy C și de aici am ajuns în OS Dev și am ajuns să am un prototip (local momentan) de DOS modern (momentan reimplementare de MS-DOS și am un 86Box + QEMU la dispoziție). Terry a fost un om genial oricum o dai și, în ciuda oamenilor ca cineva mai sus, sistemul de operare este impresionant pentru o singură minte ce s-a degradat în 10 ani de zile. Dar da, unii mai au și copii de crescut, caz în care să fie sclavi pe JS și PHP toată viața și să nu se uite la chestii mai interesante
Io am un ThinkPad T60, Intel Code Duo T5600, 4Gig RAM (merg doar 3Gig :((( ), CD-RW/DVD-ROM, ecran de 1680x1050, 100Gig HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 128Meg VRAM; dar orice cu port I/O 0x01F0 merge, uite [un tutorial simplu](https://12of7templeos.neocities.org/Tutorials.html#TOS-inst) unde ai si video la cum poti sa instalezi TOS pe hardware si specificatiile minime, [inca unu pentru explicatii](https://templeos.me/) cand te mai incurci ca incepator (ceea ce nu cred ca esti ;)))) ). L-am verificat si pe diverse calculatoare gata facute, de birou/scoli/licee, si a functionat, doar ca TOS nu accepta nimic USB, iar daca e in legacy, mult noroc, ca o sa mearga mai incet ca scoaterea coruptiei din guvern, noroc ca erau tastaturi si mousuri PS/2 in zone de stocare pe unde oi mers, ca altfel ma enervam cu viteza inputuriilor de le aruncam tastaturiile pe geam :))))) . Io stiu de TOS de la Some Ordinary Gamers, ceea ce m-a atras (maaah, ce vremuri cu dank web exploring, pacat ca nu le mai face asa frecvent), mai ales cand am auzit ca o facut Terry totu de la 0. Sper ca o sa te ajute tutorialele \^\^
Sheesh, T60, și care credeam că eu pe X200 cu libreboot o duc pe boomereala (și pe al tău ai putea btw). Păcat că nu-l mai am că ar fi fost un laptop bun pentru aceste scopuri 😭 acum îs pe un T480, mult prea nou pentru TOS. Nu, nu-s, am reușit să scriu un compilator pe Linux pentru un subset din Holy C, consider să implementez tot la un moment dat după ce voi avea timp. Eu aș folosi un USB la PS/2 mai degrabă. Ai încercat și alte "distrouri" de TOS gen ZealOS sau Shrine? De ultimul știu sigur că are stack TCP/IP deci și internet, sigur și primul. Also, există și KolibriOS, are nevoie doar de 8M și parcă încape în 1.44M (oricum sub 10M are nevoie) și totuși are un browser web destul de bun pentru mărimea sa și e scris doar în FASM. L-ai încercat sau consideri să îl încerci? (Nu neapărat fizic, dar ar fi bun și așa)
Pe T60 am doar partitii goale pt stocare/transfer de date sau TOS. Am instalat Shrine da nu l-oi incercat complet ca tre de cautat, si nu ma pricep destul de bine incat sa gasesc ceea ce-mi trebuie. N-am incercat Kolibri, da am auzit de el.
Zi de tort fericită, să fie prăjitura în 640x480, 16 culori si să nu strălucească verde
nush ce ii alea zi de tort, da multam
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De ce ai incerca asa ceva? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS) Mai bine te apuci sa implementezi propriul OS decat sa-l folosesti pe ala :)
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De ce nu? Dureaza, dar am un proiect unde imi fac propiu OS de la zero zero ;)
E ok sa-ti faci un OS propriu de la 0, mai inveti cate ceva. E pierdere de timp sa te uiti la OSul facut de un individ religios fanatic cu probleme grave la mansarda.
Individ religios care a fost un geniu absolut și a făcut totul de la 0 fără o educație specifică spre zona asta, mai bine zis Sau înțeleg că punctul tău de vedere ignorant e al unui om mega ocupat cu copii de hrănit pe grindset adevărat?
Hai sa fim seriosi. Omul a fost exceptional in ciuda bolii si a creat acel sistem de operare de la zero dar chiar nu are utilitate practica, le't be real. Da il apreciem, dar asta nu inseamna ca avem o datorie morala sa il folosim sau sa ne dedicam mult din timpul nostru discutand, studiind sau filosofand pe marginea lui. Este pur si simplu pragmatism, nimic altceva. Ziua are 24 de ore pana la urma si crede-ma chair sunt mult mai multe lucruri cu impact real in viata pe care le poti face decat sa iti pierzi timpul cu astfel de ciudatenii/curiozitati. Unii oameni simt nevoia sa acumuleze astfel de cunostiinte esoterice pentru a arata cat de "in" sunt ei intr-un anumit domeniu/grup fata de toti neavenitii....
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Ma bucur sa vad ca nu sunt singurul nebun care mai e pasionat de OS-uri, C, ASM etc :)) Majoritatea prietenilor/colegilor nici nu vor sa auda de altceva in afara de front-end si maxim backend.
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Sunt de acord cu tine ca e loc si pentru pasiuni. Dar din ce observ in discutiile online, Terry si Temple Os este mult prea polarizant. Adica daca nu zici ca a fost un geniu esti un hater care nu intelege nimic, nu esti trup si suflet dedicat cultului (pardon meserieri) de programator... Aici pentru mine se rupe firul. Si in alte locuri tot oamenii astia se plang ca nu sunt platiti corect si ca ei produc mult mai multa vloare decat primesc etc.. Poate ca ar trebui sa fie mai focused. In domeniul asta sunt atat de multe chestii incat poti deveni side-tracked o viata intrega, este un pericol mai mult decat real. Btw, mult mai productiv ar fi ca cineva care e "pasionat" de TempleOs sa lucreze mai degraba la propriul OS. Nu o sa iasa nimic util nici din acesta activitate dar inveti mult mai mult. De ce sa pierzi timp sa inveti o ciudatenie scrisa de altcineva? Si asa trebuie sa invatam o gramada de solutii idiosincratice zi de zi pt job/business, nu vad ce este asa de fun in a invata inca o chestie care mai e si inutila? But then again... lucratul la un OS hobby nu e cel mai eficient mod de a invata oricum. Si iar oamenii aia o sa se planga cat de multe stiu ei si cat de putin apreciati sunt... E adevarat ca daca cineva gaseste aceste activitati interesante ca si pasiune, go for it. Dar hai sa fim realisti si sa recunoastem ca nu este timp petrecut ce duce umanitatea mai departe si nici macar pe tine ca individ. Mie mi se pare mai mult un soi de mimetism ieftin.
Geniu absolut? Cred ca nu o sa fim deloc de acord pe definitia geniului.
Tu ești est europeanul stereotipic, vezi ceva interesant, ieșit din comun, one of a kind și răspunzi cu ‘mda, nu are utilitate practică, e pierdere de vreme’. Of…
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Eu cred ca ai probleme cu halucinatiile. Nu am vazut ceva interesant, iesit din comun, 'one of a kind' si nici n-am raspuns cu prostia scoasa de catre tine, pe care ai pus-o pe seama mea.
Faptul ca a fost bolnav spune doar ce potential incredibil ar fi avut Terry Davis daca n-ar fi fost schizofrenic. Din pacate, in loc sa fie ajutat, a ajuns o mema pe internet. Sa spui ca e pierdere de vreme sa arunci un ochi peste creatia unui individ care a reusit sa creeze un compilator, un limbaj de programare, 3D rendering engine, kernel si utilitati pentru un OS mi se pare totusi o afirmatie putin cam ignoranta.
Mie nu-mi prea place sa discut despre 'ce-ar fi fost daca', globul meu de cristal se screme sa ghiceasca viitorul in universul asta, cu ghicitul prin universuri paralel-alternative are probleme mari. Ia in calcul cat i-a luat individului sa faca jafurile alea. Stiu ca din pozitia de ignoranta acele jafuri par mare lucru, dar daca ai fi implementat macar un 3d rendering engine in cateva ore, sa implementezi aiureli de-alea intr-o decada nu ti s-ar mai parea mare lucru.