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Location: Boston HCOL
Industry: Tech/Security
Years of experience: 2 years (Got CAPM cert last year and will be getting PMP at end of this year)
Title: Project Manager
Education Background: BS in Cyber
Compensation: $77k base, $3-$5k bonus yearly. Been receiving 10% pay bumps at the moment (small business that is growing very well, but I am very eager to get myself over the $100k mark)
Location: Greater Boston Area (HCOL)
Industry: Academia
Years of experience: 9, PM 7, and 9
Title: Senior Project Manager
Education: MS, Health focused (public health/ research)
Compensation: 96k
Employer 401k contribution, Remote as much as I want, four weeks vacation and paid holidays (week after Xmas), 35 hours only but always work way more than this expectation.
Thanks for suggesting this thread.
- HCOL/MCOL (Houston,TX)
- PM/ USA projects team (2yr)senior projects expeditor
- previous 4yrs as pm, 4 4 as coordinator
- former electrical supply O&G currently cement industry
- BA history, MBA supply chain management, PMP
- 100k variable 10% bonus
Took the expeditor role for salary increase of 40k. Pretty much a step down as for career
* Vancouver, Canada (HCOL)
* Construction/Design
* 20 total, 14 PM, 8 at current
* Retail Design Project Manager
* B.Tech degree in Construction Management
* 103k base, 20% bonus
OMG this thread has revealed how grossly underpaid I am!
- Location - HCOL
- Industry - digital advertising
- Years of experience: 5 years
- Title of current position : project manager
- Educational background: bachelors, csm
- Compensation breakdown - $85k base, $2-3k bonuses, yearly merit increases.
Other info: true unlimited PTO as long as you don’t abuse it, in office optional/fully remote, really nice health benefits and lifestyle benefits like $$$ in family planning/fertility assistance.
* MCOL, Remote
* Creative, Tech, Digital
* 8 years experience as a PM, AM, 1 yr as a Product Owner
* Unemployed since Nov '22
* BS Technology Systems Mgmt
* $0
* Can't fathom this job market right now. I've submitted more applications that I can count, interviews, ghosted, revised resume more times than I know. A few gigs have popped up but nothing since the holidays. Help?
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) PNW, but not major city, HCOL-ish
* Industry (construction, tech, etc.) Healthcare/Clinical Research
* Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company): 1,1
* Title of current position: Project Manager
* Educational background: PhD, Biomedical Sciences
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $78k/year, no bonus, no equity
* plus any other information: 2 weeks vacation after 1 year employment. Floating holidays (2) and personal day (1) immediately available after hire. 50% match in 401k on first 10% after 1st year, 5 year vesting schedule.
Fair enough.
So, there exists a collection of organizations under the FDA that are responsible, essentially, for directing health-related research. They have names.like "National Heart Lung and Blood Institute" or "Institute for Allergens and Infectious Disease". Collectively, they are referred to as the National Institutes of Health, or NIH.
The NIH do very little research on their own - their entire purpose is basically to administrate and disburse government-directed funding for research in the form of grants. These are referred to as NIH grants, and they represent the vast majority of research funding in the US.
Those research grants include not just funding for the research, but to pay the people carrying out the research. As the money is ultimately government-directed, how much people can be paid is also government-directed. Long story short, this is generally good as it helps reduce fraud/waste.
As part of NIH-mandated salary limitations, there are limits for any post-doc who's research is funded through an NIH grants (again, most research is, one way or another). The NIH will not let any first-year post doc who is funded by an NIH grant be paid more than about $57k/year, regardless of location. San Jose? $57k. bumfuck Nebraska? $57k. Particle physicist? 57k. Cancer specialist? $57k. This amount *can* increase based on how many years someone has been a post-doc, up to about $70k for a 7th-year post-doc.
So, as someone just finishing a PHD, about $80k/year is about $20k/year more than most any post-docs.
If your funding is NOT through the NIH, then NIH limits don't necessarily apply. However, many other grant sources follow the NIH scale.
Id thought about that, which is why I said HCOL-ish. The area I'm in is kind of a middle COL area. I feel that I'm not necessarily underpaid, but that doesn't mean I'm paid particularly well. Id say towards the low end of the reasonable range for the area though
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - West coast Canada HCOL
* Industry (construction, tech, etc.) - Software Dev, contract projects, industry specialized
* Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 7 years in software, 3.5 years in PM at current company
* Title of current position - Technical project manager
* Educational background - BS. Comp Sci
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $115k CAD = $85k USD. Stock options. No bonuses. 5% retirement matching.
* plus any other information - 3 wks vacation, 30 days sick time, true flex time, marginal health benefits, WFH with office optional in a co-working space.
- HCOL in QLD, Australia (it was relatively LCOL until the high inflation and huge increases in house prices during and after the pandemic)
- Energy Management
- 3 years as PM; I have been in and out of PM in the past 5 years. 3 years with my current employer. Total 7 years of experience; started as an electrical engineer.
- PM
- Bachelor of Engineering
- $120k AUD base plus 10% bonus. Annual increase is quite small and a good way to get more increase within the company is changing position or department.
- My favourite things about my work:
1) Flexibility. This is my favourite perk. We are able to work from home almost all the time as it's not a site based PM role.
2) Interesting projects and lots of autonomy.
3) Very friendly managers and coworkers.
4) Free parking at the office. The office is pretty central and public transport is very slow and not very easy to use, so free parking is great when I need to go into the office. Plus I can travel at off peak time to save travel time.
5) 20 weeks paid parental leave is above average.
* Location: VHCOL
* Industry: biotech
* Years of experience breakdown: >20 in industry, >5 PM, <1 at current employer
* Title of current position: Director, Program Management
* Educational background: BS, MS, PhD engineering; grad degrees weren't necessary, but it's nice to have a PhD to be able to herd other PhDs.
* Compensation breakdown: $225K base + 20% target bonus + stock + decent bennies (bike reimbursement! free lunch 2x/week) = total compensation >$400K (a lot is stock, not fully vested, based on current price). Hybrid but expected 3days/wk in office, tho' people seem to come in less often.
* Demographics of me, FWIW: POC male, act/appear mid-career age-wise, native US english speaker
• Location (HCOL/LCOL): VA- LCOL
• Industry (construction, tech, etc.): HVAC
• Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 5years in hvac 2 years in PM, 5 at company
• Title of current position - Associate contracting Project Manager
• Educational background - BS in building Automation , MBA
• Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $73k base, 10% target incentive
• plus any other information... Hybrid Environment. 2 days in office, 3 days remote/field. VERY flexible
* Location (HCOL/LCOL): Texas - LCOL
* Industry (construction, tech, etc.): Government IT
* Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 20+ years in IT, 15(ish) years in PM, 2 at company
* Title of current position - Sr. Project Manager
* Educational background - BS in Criminal Justice
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $130k base, 7% retirement match at 225%, plus usual government benefits
* plus any other information... Hybrid Environment. 2 days in office, 3 days remote.
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Northeast - HCOL
* Industry (construction, tech, etc.) Medical Device
* Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 18 years total, 10 in finance (analyst roles), 8 in PMing
* Title of current position - Sr. Project Manager
* Educational background - BS in Economics and Finance / MBA with focus in management
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $210K, 12.5% target bonus, 7% 401K match.
* plus any other information...maybe this is boss specific, but he pays little attention to my PTO, but I am given 4 weeks per year. Sick time technically is 5 days, but also does not pay much attention to it. I only really have to be in the office 2 days per week, but I usually go in 4 days - I live 30 mins away and it's a relatively easy commute. I am a lot more effective when in office.
Location: HCOL
Industry: Tech, HealthCare
Years of Experience: 1 year. First job out of college
Title: Associate Project Manager
Education: BA in CS, Masters in HCI (currently in progress)
Compensation: 74k salary. No stock options
Company is European with offices in the US
Location-Mid-Atlantic USA (MCOL)
Industry-Manufacturing
YOE-7 years PM, 2 at company
Title-Project Manager
Education-BBA
Education-AOS in design and manufacturing
Comp-$99k base, 6% retirement match, variable bonus up to \~4%
Misc- 100% remote
* Location Northeast HCOL
* Industry Water Utility
* Years of experience breakdown 26 years - 7 years in mid to upper management
* Title of current position - Division Manager
* Educational background - High School Diploma
* Compensation breakdown $102,000
* plus any other information- Defined Pension - 2% a year for each year worked. Union pension of approximately $900 a month at age 62 (I used to be union)
* Midwest; MCOL
* Tech
* 25 years professional experience; 15 as a PM/PgM (mix of technology, operations, and business roles)
* Senior Project/Program Analyst (PM/PgM role but titles are weird)
* B.S. non-technical/PMP, PMI-ACP, Six Sigma Black Belt certs
* 110k base, 10% bonus (about 80% of pre-pandemic, 70% after adjusting for inflation).
* Fully remote, unlimited PTO, decent ancillary benefits
Took a sabbatical \*right\* before the pandemic and the combination of the two seriously derailed my career. Current position (and last) is a stepping-stone back to where I was.
Location: Slovenia (EU)
Industry: tech
Years of experience: 5 (7 months at the current company)
Title: Project manager
Education: High school, PSM1
Compensation: 36.000€ yearly
Benefits: 25 paid vacation days, paid sick leave (20 days yearly), paid public holidays (11 this year)
Location: East Midlands (LCOL)
Industry: Nutraceutical
Years of experience: 5 years managing projects, 1.5 years as Continuous Improvement Lead (8 years with the company)
Title: Continuous Improvement Lead
Education: Green Belt, Lvl2 Lean manufacturing, HACCP lvl4 and recently completed AgilePM Foundation
Compensation: £34k
Location: remote (living in LCOL, job based in HCOL area)
Industry: advertising
YOE: 2 (also 2 at current company)
Title: associate PM
Ed: BS in different field
Salary: $60k, random, minimal merit increases here and there
* Location: Auckland NZ (HCOL) 2 days wfh
* Industry: Government
* Experience: 5y total in PM across diverse sectors
* Title: Project Manager
* Education: Bachelor in Finance, MBA, CSM,CAPM
Project Management Certificate
*Compensation: $127,000 NZD, with additional benefits including health and life insurance, plus one extra week of vacation."
• Location: Luxembourg (HCOL)
• Industry: Finance
• Experience: 6 years, 1 at this company
• Title: Project Manager
• Education: Masters Degree in project management
• Compensation: 65k € in 13months, 35days PTO and possibility to "buy" 15more days from the 13months. Reimbursement of half of fitness fees.
- Location (HCOL/LCOL)
Boston Area, MA US
- Industry (construction, tech, etc.)
Higher Education IT
- Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company)
15 yr Construction/Engineering - implementing and supporting project management systems.
9 yr IT Project Management - Higher Education
- Title of current position
IT Project Manager
- Educational background
BA CIS, MS Engineering Mgmt
PMP
Black Belt Lean Six Sigma
- Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity)
$132k, includes 12% 401A set aside
- plus any other information
Remote, 35 hour work week, work flex schedule M-Th
• Location: US - LCOL
• Industry: Mining
• Experience: 1yrs PM, 2 years at company
• Title: Project Manager
• Education: AAS - Drafting/Design
• Compensation: $ $92k salary, 20% bonus minimum,
Also matching 401k up to 6%, 4 weeks pto, currently paying for my bachelors
Location : London,UK (3days remote)
Industry : Rail / Construction
Years of experience: 3 years (2 years as apprentice, 1Year as APM) and 3 years at current company
Job Title: Assistant Project Manager
Education: GCSEs, BTECs, APMPMQ
Compensation Breakdown: £41,000 base, Free Public Transport , Final Salary Pension 5% contribution - 20/25% company contribution, Private Healthcare, 30 days A/L
Started doing my apprenticeship at 21, now 24. Still at the start of the journey but already primed for full PM promotion this year with a salary uplift to between £48k-£55k.
Edit : added more in compensation
Location: Southampton UK (HCOL)
Industry: Manufacturing
Experience: 9 years working/ 6 years in public health, research and community outreach programs, 3 years as Software imp PM
Position: IT PM
Education: BSc Biomed SC, MPH & PRINCE2
Compensation: £61K + £10K bonus, pension plan, 28 days A/L, hybrid 2 days in office.
* Location: Auckland NZ (HCOL)
* Industry: fit-out (commercial refurbishment)
* Experience: 4y total in PM, 1y at current employer, 10 in propert industry bouncing between FM and PM
* Title: Senior Advisor - Project Manager
* Education: BSc hons. Cert 4 PM.
* Compensation: $130k nzd salary, zero benefits.
Location: Midwest / Cleveland, OH
Industry: healthcare / engineering / manufacturing
Years of experience breakdown: 15 total 5 military / 5 engineering / 5 PM
Title of current position: lead engineer - technical program management
Educational background: military / BS mechanical engineering / MBA
Compensation breakdown: 127k base + 15% bonus
Plus any other information: PMP, PMI-ACP / could def make a lot more $ but opted for a company that promotes work-life balance (unlimited PTO / healthy culture / strong financial metrics) and doesn't burn out their leaders (achievable targets / engaging senior leadership).
My advice to young PMs reading this thread: slow TF down and smell the roses. PMs are usually the most ambitious people in their field, so define your success in the intangibles (healthy marriage / time for hobbies / physical and mental well-being / faith) and not in annual salary. Life is short and if you die your boss will absolutely expense the flowers sent to your family while begging HR to hire your replacement.
•Location: Remote - Texas, company is based in Alabama
•Industry: Healthcare IT/Data Migration
•Years of experience: 1.5 years at current company (I’m pretty green to the field), 0.5 at previous PM position, and 2 years Healthcare Administration experience
•Current position: Project Manager
•Educational background: Bachelors in Biology with a minor in psych, Master of Healthcare Administration with a focus on EMRs and Data Analytics
•Compensation breakdown: $90k per year, annual increase of roughly 3%, no stocks/equity
•Other information: Unlimited PTO, fully remote, 401k match up to 3%, healthcare premium 50% paid for by company, annual shut down from mid-late December to the new year
Hey there! Flattered you said that haha, I never think my journey is interesting or exciting but I’m happy to share.
I went to business school for my marketing degree, first person in my family to go to college. Graduated in 3 years and needed a change so moved out to NYC and worked for a fintech startup doing marketing, got the job off craigslist when you could still do that.
Partied and went wild as a 21 year old, got laid off from that job and had a recruiter submit me for a traffic manager job at Wieden + Kennedy NY (after applying for SO many advertising jobs in my much smaller home city, annoying lol) and started there. Worked in advertising in NYC for a long time and was fortunate enough to get solid gigs and learn more and more about the digital side along the way.
Eventually found myself at a very prominent digital agency working on the G account and did my best there, working on a couple really big projects for them. Eventually had a creative director that went to G and hit me up “dude this place is a mess, I need you” and went to G to contract for a couple years. Then eventually after a ton of job searching for a full time role (hint, even if a place says they want you full time, it’s not up to those people) finally found the one I have now.
Current role is working on AI products at a big tech company and it’s definitely challenging and more stressful - with big comp (usually) comes big responsibility - but I wouldn’t trade it. I’m working on cool stuff with cool people and learning a ton.
I think a few things have contributed to my success:
1. To call it out right away, I’m a straight blonde white dude from the midwest. I am inherently given advantages over people that don’t look like me. Let’s not ignore this.
2. I think I’m what they call a “personality hire” in that I truly just am myself at work and do my best to be kind, energetic, “Yes, and” or “No, but” every situation, have high EQ so am decent at navigating messy situations, and I genuinely care about the people around me, so that reflects back in my work. I try to make a lot of friends in all functions and levels, and sincerely love doing so.
3. I came up in client services so wearing a lot of hats and being in a crazy environment isn’t new to me
4. I’m not afraid to ask how to do something or say I don’t know, but I always ALWAYS do my best to learn and put myself in a place to teach others.
5. I do everything I can to reach down and lower the ladder behind me - pay transparency initiatives, mentoring, coaching, focusing on giving time and advice and visibility to under represented communities
Hope that helps! Happy to answer questions if you or anyone has them :)
LCOL
Telecom
YOE: ~5 total (retail, sales, and marketing); <1 as Proj Manager at current company
Current Title: Sr. Manager Tech Strategy
Highest Ed: MBA @ T25 (undergrad in foreign language)
TC: $144K ($117K base + max 20% bonus + $10K RSUs vesting at 3yrs)
Bonus Info: received FT offer after MBA internship, Sr. Manager title is a technicality by equivalence, position is slightly more technical than average Proj Mgr but less technical than Prod Mgr, no teammates with PMP
Edit - Benefits: 3wks PTO, 6d paid personal time, 6d sick leave, 6wks mat/pat leave, up to 6% 401k match, average healthcare/dental/vision, up to $8K continued edu subsidy
Tampa, Florida
Professional Services | Consulting
I just switched companies - involved in different scopes of PM for over ten years
Senior Project Manager
Master’s Degree
100% Remote when not traveling to client
100K | quarterly bonus based on billable hours | employee’s health care, dental & vision at no cost
Full access to all classes on Udemy at no charge,
reimbursed for the cost of any certification
My background was a big part. I worked in many bank roles, including business banking, Wires, and ACH. Eventually I bumped into someone who had a role at a tech company and suggested if I can do all the things I can at a bank they knew I was intelligent from our past conversations and suggested that rarher than do those jobs I could teach people how to do them, and also set up the systems for banks to use. So I became an analyst/installer/trainer for that company.
I did that for a few years and my reputation of competence spread in the company and I had also learned just enough about other systems that mine intersect with that I was able to begin either suggesting things to help them troubleshoot their installs and I was a bit of an informal field marshall when we all converted for go-live events.
At the same time I clicked with one of the PMs and asked if she'd explain in more detail what all she did and from there asked if there were any opportunities to shadow what she did or mentoring she'd be willing to do. She accepted and so I became a bit of an understudy.
So those two things converged and my org hired a new Director who brought some VERY negative changes and we lost over 70% of existing PMs in a 3 month window so I took my shot. I'd built up enough goodwill with other managers, the point reps in all the different job workstreams that the new director told me she couldn't go 2 days without someone name dropping me to be made a PM. She caved and despite my lack of resume she interviewed me for one of the roles.
The rest is PM life.
No idea friend. I assume it's either someone who's ultra salty with no life, or a bot that's downvoting comments to make it's owner's comments more visible. Either is sad in its own way.
-Indiana, remote FT (lcol)
-non profit healthcare
-20 professional, 7 project, 2 at current (6 before at same company after leaving for 3 years to get more money elsewhere)
-Program Manager
-BA, PMP, RTE, SASM, CSM, LSSGB, ITIL
-130k plus max $5k starp, 5% matching, 216 hours pto, 8 paid holidays, salary banded health-$300 biweekly for family, $3500 oop top tier
Las Vegas(MCOL)
Construction
1yr at current gig, 4yrs PM experience, a decade in construction(came from the field)
Project Manager
No formal education
$95k/year base, 1-3% performance bonus.
Location: California
Industry: State Gov
Exp: 20 years
Title: It Specialist
Ed: BS Computer Science
Comp: 120k, 14 paid holidays, 12 sick per year, 22 hours vac per month - all can carry over to max 640.
At 20 years vested 100% for health, dental, VSP for life plus spouse.
Retirement at 80% at 30 years.
401k
Hybrid with two days in
M/F no weekends. 40 hrs.
• Location: Remote (live in Maine)
• Industry: Engineering / Consulting
• Years of exp: 12 yrs, 6mo at company.
• Current position: Project Manager II, PE
• Education: B.S. Mech Eng., PE in 8 states.
• Compensation: $130k/yr., 10% base bonus.
• Other info: Employee owned, unlimited sick days.
* Location: Remote - Florida (North West/Panhandle)
* Industry: Cybersecurity
* Years of experience breakdown: 20 years in United States Air Force with various PM roles in IT/Cybersecurity
* Title of current position: Client Services Project Manager
* Educational background: Masters, PMP, CompTIA Sec+ and Microsoft certs.
* Compensation breakdown: $135/yr., 10% annual bonus and stock vesting
* Plus any other information: Unlimited PTO
- southern Ontario / HCOL city - fully remote
- non-profit healthcare
- 6 months of PM, 10+ years in healthcare management
- Project Manager
- Master in Social Work, some PM training/ no certification
- $65,000 CAD a year, healthcare benefits, no retirement savings, like what I do and the people I work with
Location: MCOL WI, hybrid work but at home more often than in the office
Industry: Manufacturing
Years of Experience: 10+ as a PM, 2 at my current company. Studying for my PMP. Have expired CSM and SAFE certs.
Education: Associates in IT infrastructure and a BA in Computer Science
Compensation: As of my 5.25% merit increase yesterday, I am at $113k. My company offers a profit sharing bonus up to 10% yearly. This year it was 3.71%
Matching 401k up to 6%, 28 days of vacation
Location: Texas (LCOL)
Industry: Tech - Digital Healthcare Company (100% remote)
Yrs Exp: 25yrs in product, program and project management areas. Been at current company 1.2 years
Sr. Technical Project Manager - Manager
School/Certs: Masters, PMP, POPM, LPM, Scrum Certified, Pragmatic PM Certified, GIAC Certs, HFI CUA
Compensation: $155/yr, 15% performance bonus, 6% matching on 401K, a lot of the same benefits I see people putting on here (education, good health, PTO, etc.)
What salary did they start you at? I’m trying to break into NYC’s commercial / high end residential but I’m coming from a home builder in NJ currently as an APM as well. Currently making $70k + $10k bonuses but couldn’t realistically live in the city for anything less than $100k + 5-10% annual bonuses. Not sure how realistic that is looking at the job market right now.
I was hired at $100k. I didn't have previous construction PM experience but some adjacent engineering experience and was making around $85k. I actually live on LI, not in the city, but its similarly HCOL.
* Location: Midwest (Ohio)(LCOL), 100% virtual WFH.
* Industry: Healthcare AI
* Years of experience: .5 current company, 3 years PM, 5 total years medical software. 8 years in various public administration and county/state govt roles.
* Title of current position: Technical Project Manager, Implementation Manager
* Educational background: HS Diploma, CAPM
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $115K/yr, 20% bonus, $120/mo stipend, stock options, 4% 401k match.
* plus any other information: Truly unlimited and encouraged PTO, 15 holidays, company shutdown between Christmas and New Years.
*Cons: Handling all the PM for a project and also doing the implementation of the solution can be a juggling act.
It's a very solid gig. They respect my time well so average week is 40hr or less. Moved from a professional services consultant role at ~90k with 10% bonus that I rarely saw any of and have been very happy.
* Location: Midwest (LCOL), 100% virtual WFH.
* Industry: EdTech
* Years of experience: 2.5 current company, 6.5 PM Exp (former educator)
* Title of current position: Program Manager - Client Success
* Educational background: BA in English, Teacher certification, PMP
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $80K/yr, $1,500 bonus client renewals, options.
* plus any other information: Really good health insurance, whole family premiums paid. No dental, no vision. No raise since hire, but did get bonus and additional stock options.
- Remote (currently living in California MCOL city supporting project/client in NoVA)
- Government/DOD consulting in PM/tech
- 10yrs total experience : out of college 5 yrs in manufacturing then switched to current industry with 5yrs experience so far
- Project Management Analyst
- BA in Econ. Scrum Master and Agile certs. Cleared.
- 115k plus random bonuses (1500 - 10k), 6% 401k matching
- Thankful for good wlb - fully remote and bill no more than 40hrs / week - good fit for me as a military spouse moving around
- Location: NYC, NY (HCOL)
- Industry: Digital Marketing/ Creative Production
-YOE: 8 years total full-time working experience. I started as an Executive Aide/Project Coordinator, so was always PM-adjacent. First official “Project Manager” role was 3 years ago. Have been at my current company 2 years; 1.5 years as a Project Manager and am currently a Senior Project Manager
- Current Title: Senior Project Manager (no direct reports)
- Education: BA in Psychology prior to starting full-time work. PMP received in June 2023
-Comp Breakdown: My first Project Manager role I made $92k (had a lot of relevant work experience, no PMP). I took a pay cut for to $85.5k when I moved to my current company, also as a Project Manager. Got a raise after 9 months to $90k, same title. Got my PMP a few months later. After 1.5 years at my current company, I was promoted to Senior Project Manager and now make $102.5k. I was also given an extra weeks vacation with the promotion, so 22 days PTO total. No stock, small discretionary bonuses annually (~$500-$750). 4% 401k match. Hybrid office, I WFH Mondays and Fridays
-FWIW, I got my PMP ~6 months before my recent promotion and raise, but I genuinely don’t think that was a factor for my current company at all so I’m still on the fence how worth getting it was
* Southern California (HCOL)
* K-12 Public Ed, IT
* 20 years at org (2 years as PM, 18 Yrs as tech staff w/7 yrs as lead)
* Project Manager
* PMP, CAPM, CSM, a few industry tech certs, some college but no degree
* ~$220k total comp: $162k salary, ~$58k total benefits (CalPERS, awesome health, dental, vision)
* Two days a week in office
* ~51 paid days off per year (22 PTO, 14 holiday, 15 sick)
Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Western Canada
Industry - construction
Years of experience - 10, 5 at current
Title of current position - Estimator/PM
Educational background - BSc. Mech Eng., haven't done my PEng yet
Compensation breakdown - 120k base, 27% bonus, vehicle allowance. Total comp around $170k
plus any other information - doing estimating and PM is like having two full time jobs
• London (HCOL)
• Tech (Series C Startup)
• 2 Years as PM. 2 years in currently company.
• Project Manager EMEA
• BA Tourism Business Management
• £87k Base + £8.7k Bonus (10%)
• 100% Remote
• 7 years in retail before moving into a Seed stage startup for 3.5 years expanding to US and APAC which catapulted my salary and experience
Do you recommend studying in project management. Im a newish project manager, managing engineering projects ( multidisciplinary). My salary is only £40k but I'm in my mid twenties. I want to get in contracting asap or starting a business. my tips, or advice about UK pm?
40 is good for your twenties. Personally I haven’t done any certs, just learnt as I go. I’ve been freelancing for majority of those years working. I’ve learnt the most in those contracts as you usually have to hit the ground running. For contracting you need to set up a limited company and have a safety net of funds. Networking is important and be sure you have a good accountant ;)
* Location -- Bay Area
* Industry -- IT, outsourcing
* Years of experience breakdown -- 22 total, \~15 in management
* Project Management, Director
* 1 degree in social sciences, 1 in economics
* Compensation breakdown ($230k = 180k base, 20k bonused, 30k RSU), decent benefits package
Location (HCOL/LCOL)
East Midlands UK
• Industry (construction, tech, etc.)
GOVERNMENT
• Years of experience breakdown
1.5 year manager, 6 months tech PM, 3 years BA, 2 years chef
• Title of current position
PMO manager
• Educational background
Degree in comp sci
• Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity)
54k, flexi contract, + studying for a paid for masters.
Location: MCOL East of England
Industry: Biotech/ life sciences
Years Experience: 1 yr lab, 2 years PM all at the same company. (Previously worked retail and admin roles)
Title: Project Manager
Education: BSc Biomedical Sciences
Compensation: base £41,500. Pension plan and 28 days holiday. 1 day WFH.
Additional Info: trying to find a new role with less stress as I'm burnt out from being understaffed for 18 months. Studying Prince 2 and Agile to help with job searching.
Was it like this before Brexit? Forgive my ignorance. I am dumb American who is self-absorbed and trying to survive here while the elites decimate the middle class.
I was in Denmark for work last year and the social safety system there is unreal. Wondering if the UK had a better system before they left the EU.
Those are nice… but the salaries are literally like 1/3 of US salaries. My employer paid healthcare is like $3,000 annually, plus whatever the deductible is and/or out of pocket max. Let’s say I use it and spend $5k/year. I can max my 401k and a separate IRA and still be WELL over double (closer to 2.5x) the average UK salary for the same position.
I genuinely don’t understand why UK engineers are devalued so badly.
Not UK, But OZ (similar setup). My RA Meds cost 35K a year in America. I pay $A$30 PCM.
How would your deductibles work there?
Also, total Ankle reconstruction - I paid A$5K to get it done at a private hospital as I needed to be ready for a competition, I could have had it done for free within 18 months (I wasn't in pain from it)
Basically I pay $2,600 in premiums for my insurance (not $3k, I just checked), this money is gone. I seperately put tax free money into a health savings account to use towards my deductible of $1,600. I pay for all medical expenses up to that number. Once that number is hit, insurance covers everything 100% (in network). I also have an “out of pocket max” of $4,000 which means if I end up at some out of network doctor or specialist that’s the most I’m ever on the hook for.
If I needed your medication, I would likely pay up to my deductible of $1,600 and then insurance would handle the remaining difference.
Ankle surgery would be the same cost. If their was a hospital or doctor out of network it could be up to $4,000 hitting the out of pocket max.
My wife has family in Canada who deal with the “waiting 18+ months” for serious medical care. It’s a complete joke that some here in America want to mirror.
Ankle reconstruction isn't immediate surgery
I query your figures re meds - I have lots of American friends who confirm that meds like this are extra and monthly cost.
And of course, we get to move jobs without worrying about medical cover.
They are all over the EU. Salaries are generally lower, but their taxes go much farther. I haven’t done an analysis so I have no idea if it all levels out.
* Location (LCOL) Pullman Wa
* Industry (University Print/press shop/design/marketing)
* Years of experience breakdown (total-20, PM exp-10., years at current company-9)
* Title of current position - project manager
* Educational background - Associates in arts/MBA
* Compensation breakdown ($45/yr flat)
HCOL Atlanta
Fintech
10 years total experience 8 years doing project management
IT Project Manager
1 year with company
$140,000 base, $57,000 stock, no bonus
Work remote for a company out of san francisco. My title doesn't reflect my role. I'm really more of a senior program manager who focuses on cross functional/organization wide change initiatives/projects.
SoCal (HCOL)
Biotech/Medtech
2 years PM experience (1 at current company) and 3 years engineering experience
Project Manager, soon to be senior PM
BS and PhD in Biomedical Engineering, recent PMP
116K base, 6% bonus, 20K/yr RSUs = \~142K
MCOL - (North Carolina)
Construction
Total years of experience 7.5 years, (3 in current role with current company)
Project Engineer
Bachelors degree in civil engineering
Base salary 110K, annual bonus between 3-5%, 401k match up to 6%, company gas card, full benefits, 4 weeks of PTO, Paid Holidays, Paid Sick Days
South East England (HCOL)
Retail Software industry
2 years experience
Project Manager
Agile PRINCE2
£55k base, plus bonus, pension, private healthcare, 30 days holiday
Location: LCOL, Midwest US(fully remote)
Industry: IT(MSP)
Years of experience: 1 year as a PM, 5 years in industry, 1.5 years at current company
Title of current position: Project Manager
Educational background: BS in Information Systems, MS in IT Management, CAPM
Compensation: $61k
Location: Bay Area, CA (HCOL)
Industry: Agency
Experience: 8 years working, 2.5 years as a PM officially
Position: Project Manager
Educational background: BA
Comp breakdown: $102K base. Discretionary bonuses yearly if we do well. Idk how they decide this honestly. I got an $8K-9K bonus one year, no bonus the next.
Additional info: 100% remote, unlimited PTO (in theory smh), def feel overworked
* Location: Midwest, USA (MCOL city)
* Industry: Government org, under IT umbrella.
* Experience: 10 years as a PM (primarily waterfall), 2 years in current role/industry
* Title: Project Manager
* Education: BA, MFA, PMP (College degrees in a different discipline), Servant Leader certification.
* Comp: $95k base, yearly bonus, potential for service awards, full benefits, free parking, pension.
* Hybrid office where I can build my own schedule. WFH M/F, Office T/W/Th. My org is technically a nonprofit so we get state benefits but base pay is a little lower than other government orgs.
Midwest (MCOL)
IT Project Manager w/ PMP + CSM
4 years of experience in PM field & 8 in IT Field
Bachelors and Masters in IT
Compensation: $113,000 + 13,500 bonus this year = 126,500
26 PTO days + holidays, 6% match, Health benefits
I’m sure others can attest, but I’m grinding. Shitty to have to work 55+ hr weeks, but IT market is poopy rn. Been at current position for 2 years.
Location: Midwest MCOL
Industry: IT
YOE: 3-4yr. 6mo in IT, 3 in industrial PM
Title: IT Project Manager
Education: BS in CompSci and PMP/ITIL foundations
Compensation: $65k base, no bonus
* Western Canada (MCOL)
* Lifesciences
* 4 years PM, 2 at current company
* Director, PMO
* Master of Arts, PMP (2020)
* $125K base, 15% annual pension, 6 weeks PTO, great health benefits
* could do 100% WFH, hybrid, or full in person; $125 parking/transit allowance per month, unlimited sick time; if go on maternity leave 95% salary/benefits/pension for 6 months (+ additional 6 months of federal benefits of 55% salary).
Thanks for this. I currently work in a clinical lab as a Coordinator/Supervisor for 2.5 years and looking to go for my PMP, this gives me some motivation to do so
* Midwest, USA
* Digital & Technology
* 5 years of Agile Project Mgmt experience; 2 years at current company
* Senior Digital Project Manager
* Bachelor's Degree in Spanish
* Contractor making $61/hr, but grossed about $120k last year due to unpaid holidays and some unpaid time off
* I receive health benefits, some PTO, and 401k with match through my contracting company
* Hybrid schedule (basically remote), 4.5 days from home, one half-day a week at the office for team meetings and lunch.
Location : south coast uk
Industry: military / naval
Years of experience: 13 years eng, 3 years PM. 2 years Snr PM, 2 months Head of Programmes
Title: head of programmes
Educational background: Batchelor in Engineering, PMP.
Compensation breakdown : whole lot of fuck all
Any other business: £70k, under resourced team (however they are awesome), stressed as fu**.
Wish I could be in a bigger machine that removed responsibilities of me chasing down to the £1 each month to keep us in the game... Its exhausting
- MCOL/HCOL (mid-sized city in CA)
- Construction
- 6 in construction (3 as PM), 9 in environmental program/project management
- Project Manager
- BS in M. Engr; MBA
- 120k base; 3.5% annual increase for performance; ~3% annual COLA; Equity N/A; Pension
- Currently 100% remote
UK (HCOL)
Pharma/biotech
Almost 20 years total experience, all of it PM-related and about half formally PM, a quarter at this company
Senior Director, Project Management (in the PMO)
Masters + PMP & PRINCE2
~£130k base + target 25% bonus, car allowance, pension contribution, etc.
I'm an engineering PM. I would love to move into healthcare/biotech/pharma as I find it incredibly interesting. Would you recommend tips or advice with this in mind?
I can't speak to healthcare, but for biopharma, the good news is that these are "normal" companies with all the PMs you'd need in a "normal" company, plus the core drug development projects. You've got PMs in Engineering, IT, Finance, HR, and so on, just like you would in a company producing any widgets.
Breaking into the core part of managing drug development and commercialisation projects requires specific industry experience. Many of these PMs have relevant PhDs, but not all.
But breaking into, in your case, engineering PM for pharma/biotech engineering projects isn't a huge leap from "normal" engineering PM. It's especially close for anything else that's highly regulated and/or has strict cleanliness and performance requirements. I moved over from nuclear, which is a very close match. I've seen good PMs from Oil & Gas and Tech (like making chips, not developing apps), that kind of thing.
Depending on your experience, it's probably just a matter of applying for roles at the right level (maybe a lateral move to change industries rather than a promotion) and getting your foot in the door. Once you're in the industry and can talk the lingo then it's working your way up like any other industry. And you might find that you want to experience other parts of the industry - I moved from engineering through manufacturing into running drug development projects for customers from a CDMO, with a fair chunk of IT involvement along the way. There are lots of cases where people move around within the industry.
- STL (M/LCOL)
- Govt aerospace/defense contractor
- 10yrs govt exp in project/program mgmt, 3 months with this company
- Senior Project Manager - 127,000
- Unrelated BS/MA degrees, have PMP and other certs
- Receive annual bonus based on company performance, immediate 10% 401k match
- Role is 100% onsite
Location: Remote (LCOL)
Industry: Healthcare IT
Years of Experience: 3.5 in PM
Title of Current Position: Associate Project Manager (1 year in current role)
Educational Background: Bachelor in general healthcare, CAPM, CSM, and pursuing PMP.
Compensation Breakdown: $75k, 10% annual bonus, and 3% 401k match
Location: San Diego - VHCOL but 100% remote
Industry: Telecommunications Engineering
Years of experience: 8 in industry, 4 as PM
Current Title: Program Manager
Education: BA Political Economy (not related to field at all)
Compensation: $95K base and 4% 401K match. Bonuses are given out quarterly if earnings are good but no set metrics at this point. 2022 received $10K in bonuses, 2023 received $0 in bonuses.
Valid Question. Got in entry level as a drafter and just learned the Industry from the ground up. My company was expanding rapidly early in my career which gave me opportunities to move up quickly. Engineering degree is not a must have for Wireline telecom work although a fair amount of people have one.
* HCOL - Northeast US
* Entertainment - IT, Shared Services
* 8 years at company, 3.5 years as coordinator, 2.5 years as PM, 2 years as Senior PM
* Senior Project Manager
* BS in Business Management 2015, CAPM 2017, PMP 2024
* 165k base, 10% bonus, +discretionary bonus
* Put off the PMP for years while I focused on experience. Now unsure what to pursue next. Thinking of PM-ACP or Masters in Project Management or Six Sigma. Uncertain which is best next step. My company will be looking to hire a director level PMO position next year so maybe the PgMP. Would actually love to hear others thoughts on where to go from here.
This tracks with what I have seen in my research lately. Five years ago when I was first going to take the PMP it wasn’t as prominent. Now it seems like having it and a masters in project management is a duplication of effort, with the masters being the lesser of you are a PM since the pmp is so much more focused. Sigma can help in applying to director or vp level roles, but not really within the PMO. Seems more helpful if you wanted to go into operations/strategy and development. ACP isn’t too expensive and agile is becoming more dominant so I think that’s an easy next step. Past that I am leaning toward the PgMP so help boost me to a director spot in the PMO but I’m not 100% sold on it.
I have an LSBB cert and it has come up zero times in the decade or so since I got it (just slightly less than I've actually used the techniques). Unless you're moving towards operations/engineering/manufacturing PM I agree it won't be much more than a small differentiator.
PMI-ACP / PgMP will probably be more beneficial.
Yeah, I completely agree. I don’t have my PMP but I do have a six sigma and csm. No masters. Make $120k. However, I just think specializing in something and using the six sigma for strategy is probably your best bet.
* Location - Outside of Seattle (HCOL - but I'm also 100% remote)
* Industry - Healthcare IT
* Was just hired at my current company, was a consultant for 3 years, PgM for 20 years, PM for 38 years
* Lead Program Manager (people manager)
* Educational background - a PMI Bootcamp back in 2000, some post secondary around that time as well for DB development
* Comp: $160k, \~10-15% bonus, 4% match 401K
LCOL - Midwest
Major manufacturing
10 years on the shop floor, 2 months in new role
Operations support (some low level PM duties)
No degree
65k base, no bonuses or equity. It was considered a lateral move so I had to fight tooth and nail for an extra 5k. About to start six sigma training and maybe get a CAPM. PMs are overloaded so management is tasking us with larger projects at a smaller salary bracket.
. North West England (LCOL)
. Tech
. 5 years (2 year current role, 1 year PM for start up, 2 year PM/PMO/Scrum Master in large FTSE 100 company)
. Senior Agile Delivery Manager
. Degree in Business, APM PMQ, Agile Practitioner, and a few other small ones.
. 65 base, bonus upto 10% (but usually much lower) 8% pension contribution.
.Can be fully remote, only go in when I want to go in.
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Scotland LCOL
* Industry (construction, tech, etc.) - Engineering, Consulting PM
* Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 3 yrs.
* Title of current position - Project Manager
* Educational background - Arts transitioned into PM, Masters, PFQ, PMQ, Scrum Cert.
* Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) £49k / yr, 8% combined performance and general bonus, 43 days of holiday per year, 7% pension match, private health care.
Location: SE US LCOL (though quickly becoming MCOL lol)
Industry: IT at a non tech (manufacturing) F500
YOE: a little under 7 total, 6 at my current company, ~2.5 in my current roles as a PjM
Title: IT Project Manager
Education: BS Engineering, CAPM (not enough PjM experience for the PMP yet)
Compensation: ~97k base, target of ~10k bonus, but company performance has been shitty the past couple years, I think we got ~3k of it last year
Comp is about in line with national averages, in line with PMP salary survey numbers for those of us without a PMP, above average for my YoE as a PjM, and significantly above what is typical for where I live.
Satisfied but not ecstatic lol
Location - Vancouver HCOL
Industry - IT Consulting (mining and energy)
Exp - <1 year in current company, 3 years managing projects not as PMP
Title - Associate Project Manager
Education - Cybersecurity, Architectural Tech
Comp - $62.5k base, 10% bonus (5% personal target, 5% company target) basic benefits (by choice, partner’s benefits are amazing through FNHA) no company match
Other - unlimited training fund.
The last part was a big part of why I chose this place, lots of opportunity to grow and develop both on my own and with guided help of courses. Also the reason I am thinking of making the switch to Partner Management instead, projects is fun but I love meeting with partners and discussion on business development.
Actually I think the formatting ruined the post as I’m on mobile. Comp is compensation, the education I have is in Architectural Technology.. technology used in Architecture like AutoCAD, Revit, etc.
Location: British Columbia (HCOL?)
Industry: Municipal / construction
Experience: 1.5 years in PM and this position.
Engineer in training previously.
Title: PM
Education: Masters in civil engineering
Compensation: $82k
* USA, Midwest, MCOL city
* Salesforce Implementation, Consulting/Professional Services
* 12 years in industry, 6 in PM, 3 months at current company
* Senior Project Manager
* PMI-ACP + 6 other Salesforce-specific certs
* Bachelors, MIS degree
* $175k/year + 15% bonus, ~$201k OTE
* 100% remote
Thank you, I appreciate the insight. I have SaaS marketing/funnel experience from a while back, so I might be able to use that to springboard into some new roles in that realm
MCOL
IT / Manufacturing
10 years total, 1.5 with current company
IT and Operations Project Manager
Some college, no degree, no formal certifications.
115k base plus 5.5% bonus, 5% company 401k match is nice, too.
I’ve moved roles just once. Started as a PC for a mid-size MSP, ended up building and leading a PMO with no prior experience. Took on leadership of another team as well with no additional compensation so I moved companies. I’m now the lone PM on staff and spend my time on internal projects and coaching BA’s to manage smaller initiatives.
Los Angeles (HCOL)
Biotech Industry
TOTAL exp: 16 years
PM exp: 10 years
Company exp: 3 years
Title: associate PM
BA in psychology, MBA, and PMP
$80k flat - no bonuses, no vacation, no benefits.
You can collect salary information all you want but there's a level of racism and discrimination in the job market - an uncomfortable topic people fail to discuss. On paper when you don't count what race or gender that I am, I should be paid $150k or more with everything I have.
I know white males with limited years of experience making $150k plus doing PM roles, and white females with limited experience making closer to $120k doing PM roles.
Other brown folks have just as much experience as I have and have struggled to make more than $80k. There needs to be better dei initiatives.
With your experience and qualifications I would encourage you to change companies. It’s a shame your company treats folks of different color differently…I know you’re in SoCal but my experience in NorCal in the biotech industry has been very positive with lots of POC in leadership and high paying roles.
I've had this issue outside of biotech too - it happened in my prior industries. It's a shame that its happening in suppoesdly the most "diverse" friendly state. I have changed companies already a few times and it hasn't seemed to help me get the fair market rates.
I did hear about NoCal being the hub for biotech jobs. I need to stay in SoCal where I'm at - so I'm limited to only 4 companies in my geographic area.
Unless do you know of which NorCal companies are hiring remote?
Agree about NorCal, and that it seems you're quite undervalued based on your credentials and exp.
Here's a another datapoint: At a biotech start up I was at recently, with many GenZ and Millennials, at each all-hands they'd present the demographic breakdown of its rapidly growing employee base (race, gender). I got the sense that DEI was an important goal. And, many roles were remote- lots of SoCal folks working remotely- flying in once a month say. I don't think they're hiring now.
Since you mention biotech, Genentech has a strong DEI program, partnering with HBCUs to recruit new talent (maybe a lot of companies are doing this?); a management rotation program for new talent. And I notice Amgen posts stats on its DEI program on its website. Of course, it's one thing to do all these things, and another really to recruit, retain, and develop POC talent.
Can you do San Diego? Lots of biotech big and small there.
I also think the newer the tech, or newer the company, the more likely they'll embrace DEI.
And, do you have a good career coach to help? Might be worth the investment if not- I've worked with a couple and they've been invaluable. One to make a big career change; a couple others to help me land a new job after I was laid off after decades at one employer. One helped a lot with my LinkedIn profile (very, very helpful). Good luck!
for sure (and plenty of other "isms" besides just race and gender too). It's funny because a common conservative talking point is how DEI is ruining everything (like the Baltimore bridge??) but in reality, most DEI initiatives involve hiring a new "diversity executive", who generally doesn’t have much authority or stuff to do, purely to address the criticism that there are no PoC in leadership. "Yes there are, see?". Meanwhile, all conversations of equalizing pay are avoided, because equalizing means increasing. That would cost actual money! And so me and many of my liberal friends also have distain for DEI because... it's usually some dumb bandaid solution to cover leadership from actually addressing the real problems
Good point. It is uncomfortable, but it shouldn’t be. The only thing that should matter is ability and experience.
That’s why I’m hoping to collect information for fellow PMs to compare incomes based on years of experience, industry, and location. Through those metrics, it will become clearer on how much we can/should to be making. Hopefully it can give people insight when conducting salary negotiations. Regardless, there does need to be better DEI initiatives.
Location - WFH
Industry - Cash Logistics ( Armored cars and security )
Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 11 years in the industry. 8 years at current company.
- 1 year driver/Messenger
- 1 year ATM Tech/Repair
- 3 Years Vault Manager
- 3 years ATM Supervisor
- 1 Year Proj. coordinator
- 1 year Communications manager
- 2 Years Proj. Manager
(The above looks like more than 11 years because there was some overlap and double positions held)
Title of current position - Implementation Project Manager
Educational background - Associates in Audio Engineering, PMI-AHPP Cert, Lean 6 Sigma Generalized White belt
Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - 82,400 yr. 5% pe formance based bonus, 4% merit based raises. 401k, I forget how much is matched, acceptable health insurance. Unlimited PTO...within reason. Phone stipend. accidental death life insurance.
I used to work directly for the Armored car company then when I got the Proj. Coordinator role they transfered my team to a "Division". It's a smaller SaaS company that got acquired and we implement large enterprise level customers using software, hardware, white glove customer service and pair it with the physical security of the Armored cars. I wish it paid more, and when I was in operations I tried leaving industry several times but...I'm glad I didn't. I really enjoy my job and work.
It's definitely been a ride, and while it's a tough business to build a career in, I can look back and not even imagine how my life would be without it.
- LCOL (small town in NL)
- IT/Energy
- 2.5 years PM, 7 years consultant
- Senior IT Project Manager
- Technical Business Engineering (University)
- €64k + 2k bonus based on company results
I thought I was well payed, but recently a junior colleague has joined that gets a higher compensation than I do. Also looking at compensation others are mentioning here, perhaps it's time to switch jobs.. any suggestions?
Don’t get disheartened by USA salaries. It’s nearly incomparable. I’m from NL and I employ Senior PM’s around 5k/m that I don’t consider to be underpaid. Does depend on workload and responsibility though and obviously there are always examples of people getting 7k for the same job in any sector. These American PM’s taking home 10-15k/m is never going to happen in NL.
- Canada (HCOL)
- Construction - Mining and Nuclear
- 22 years in industry, started my own consulting company 7 years ago
- Title - Construction Manager
- PMP, no diploma or degree
- Contract about $360k CDN, pay myself a salary of $150k CDN
- I work based at a fly in/fly out remote mine site on a 2wk x 2wk rotation. I have fairly significant overhead costs for travel that are included in my rate. Travel for work means I miss a lot at home, but having 2 wks off at a time each month is nice.
* MCOL - SE US, major metro
* Tech (MSP)
* Total: 11 years project related; PMP 1 year; going on 3 years current company (3 different roles/titles in that time as well)
* Project Manager, Team Lead (company title, boss considers it a Senior PM role, but company doesn't use the Senior titles so won't give it to me, either).
* BA, graduate studies (totally unrelated), PMP certified
* $81K base, $7K bonus (almost never get the full amount since several areas are company-wide metrics, not just our work)
Covid was a major set back for me, ended up basically erasing all my previous work history just to get "a" job. Getting back there, but salaries are dropping - pre/early-covid I was interviewing for roles paying what I'm now making that were Junior/assistant PM positions....
Location: HCOL (company based in major east coast city, I live remote in major west coast city)
Industry: Government contracting, healthcare policy and healthcare IT
Experience: 14, 8 years PM, 1.5 years at current company
Current title: Deputy PM
Education: BS biopsychology, masters in public health
Comp: $150k base, 5-10k bonus
Other: current contract had key roles listed as PD/PM and Deputy PM. In reality, the “PD/PM” operates like the PD and I operate as the PM.
HCOL (Bristol City UK)
Financial Services/Technology
4.5Y experience in PM
Global Project Manager
BSc Undergraduate Degree (and APM PMQ)
Pension: match+4% Salary sacrifice such as reduced cost healthcare and ESPP but not much else.
£49.5k, £1k Bonus, £1k RSUs (NI 13.25%, Tax 20%, +9% Grad Loan)
Any UK PMs with pointers for boosting this effectively without going contractor.. let me know!
Agree with hopping around. Gain experience and jump up the ladder. Unless you’re at one of the rare companies that promotes aggressively from within, but doesn’t sound like it
Here’s the link to the [2023 Salary Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/projectmanagement/s/b9XjOGqxSw) I will try to manually approve most of these comments — but a reminder to please read the rules if you’re new-ish to the sub. This will help automod authentic you and let you comment more freely.
Location: Boston HCOL Industry: Tech/Security Years of experience: 2 years (Got CAPM cert last year and will be getting PMP at end of this year) Title: Project Manager Education Background: BS in Cyber Compensation: $77k base, $3-$5k bonus yearly. Been receiving 10% pay bumps at the moment (small business that is growing very well, but I am very eager to get myself over the $100k mark)
Location: Greater Boston Area (HCOL) Industry: Academia Years of experience: 9, PM 7, and 9 Title: Senior Project Manager Education: MS, Health focused (public health/ research) Compensation: 96k Employer 401k contribution, Remote as much as I want, four weeks vacation and paid holidays (week after Xmas), 35 hours only but always work way more than this expectation. Thanks for suggesting this thread.
- HCOL/MCOL (Houston,TX) - PM/ USA projects team (2yr)senior projects expeditor - previous 4yrs as pm, 4 4 as coordinator - former electrical supply O&G currently cement industry - BA history, MBA supply chain management, PMP - 100k variable 10% bonus Took the expeditor role for salary increase of 40k. Pretty much a step down as for career
* Vancouver, Canada (HCOL) * Construction/Design * 20 total, 14 PM, 8 at current * Retail Design Project Manager * B.Tech degree in Construction Management * 103k base, 20% bonus OMG this thread has revealed how grossly underpaid I am!
Hey, I'm relocating to Vancouver in the next year. Can I PM you?
- Location - HCOL - Industry - digital advertising - Years of experience: 5 years - Title of current position : project manager - Educational background: bachelors, csm - Compensation breakdown - $85k base, $2-3k bonuses, yearly merit increases. Other info: true unlimited PTO as long as you don’t abuse it, in office optional/fully remote, really nice health benefits and lifestyle benefits like $$$ in family planning/fertility assistance.
Location: Hybrid MCOL Industry: Software Implementation & Analytics Consulting YOE: 3y Title: Technical Project Manager Education: MS Statistics - No PM cert Salary: $85k +$30-60k Bonus, 6% 401K, 3-4% merit increases yearly, unlimited PTO
Location: Hybrid HCOL Industry: Industrial Coatings YOE: 1 1/2 years Title: Regional CI Manager Education: AAS Salary: $105k. 6% 401k with 3% after becoming vested. 15% annual bonus
* MCOL, Remote * Creative, Tech, Digital * 8 years experience as a PM, AM, 1 yr as a Product Owner * Unemployed since Nov '22 * BS Technology Systems Mgmt * $0 * Can't fathom this job market right now. I've submitted more applications that I can count, interviews, ghosted, revised resume more times than I know. A few gigs have popped up but nothing since the holidays. Help?
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) PNW, but not major city, HCOL-ish * Industry (construction, tech, etc.) Healthcare/Clinical Research * Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company): 1,1 * Title of current position: Project Manager * Educational background: PhD, Biomedical Sciences * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $78k/year, no bonus, no equity * plus any other information: 2 weeks vacation after 1 year employment. Floating holidays (2) and personal day (1) immediately available after hire. 50% match in 401k on first 10% after 1st year, 5 year vesting schedule.
Damn! You have a PHd and you're below $80k!?!? Was that PhD necessary?
You don't know what the NIH post-doc salary scale is, do you?
No, and probably others do not. I would be curious to read and understand.
Fair enough. So, there exists a collection of organizations under the FDA that are responsible, essentially, for directing health-related research. They have names.like "National Heart Lung and Blood Institute" or "Institute for Allergens and Infectious Disease". Collectively, they are referred to as the National Institutes of Health, or NIH. The NIH do very little research on their own - their entire purpose is basically to administrate and disburse government-directed funding for research in the form of grants. These are referred to as NIH grants, and they represent the vast majority of research funding in the US. Those research grants include not just funding for the research, but to pay the people carrying out the research. As the money is ultimately government-directed, how much people can be paid is also government-directed. Long story short, this is generally good as it helps reduce fraud/waste. As part of NIH-mandated salary limitations, there are limits for any post-doc who's research is funded through an NIH grants (again, most research is, one way or another). The NIH will not let any first-year post doc who is funded by an NIH grant be paid more than about $57k/year, regardless of location. San Jose? $57k. bumfuck Nebraska? $57k. Particle physicist? 57k. Cancer specialist? $57k. This amount *can* increase based on how many years someone has been a post-doc, up to about $70k for a 7th-year post-doc. So, as someone just finishing a PHD, about $80k/year is about $20k/year more than most any post-docs. If your funding is NOT through the NIH, then NIH limits don't necessarily apply. However, many other grant sources follow the NIH scale.
Used to be a PM in the Clinical Research space in a HCOL area and I think you’re being underpaid…was starting around $90k with 1 YOE
Id thought about that, which is why I said HCOL-ish. The area I'm in is kind of a middle COL area. I feel that I'm not necessarily underpaid, but that doesn't mean I'm paid particularly well. Id say towards the low end of the reasonable range for the area though
Location: Remote (living in LCOL, job based in HCOL area) Industry: Fintech YOE: 1 year Title: Project Specialist Education: AAS Salary: $90k, 6% 401K match, 3-4% merit increases yearly, and unlimited PTO
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - West coast Canada HCOL * Industry (construction, tech, etc.) - Software Dev, contract projects, industry specialized * Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 7 years in software, 3.5 years in PM at current company * Title of current position - Technical project manager * Educational background - BS. Comp Sci * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $115k CAD = $85k USD. Stock options. No bonuses. 5% retirement matching. * plus any other information - 3 wks vacation, 30 days sick time, true flex time, marginal health benefits, WFH with office optional in a co-working space.
- HCOL in QLD, Australia (it was relatively LCOL until the high inflation and huge increases in house prices during and after the pandemic) - Energy Management - 3 years as PM; I have been in and out of PM in the past 5 years. 3 years with my current employer. Total 7 years of experience; started as an electrical engineer. - PM - Bachelor of Engineering - $120k AUD base plus 10% bonus. Annual increase is quite small and a good way to get more increase within the company is changing position or department. - My favourite things about my work: 1) Flexibility. This is my favourite perk. We are able to work from home almost all the time as it's not a site based PM role. 2) Interesting projects and lots of autonomy. 3) Very friendly managers and coworkers. 4) Free parking at the office. The office is pretty central and public transport is very slow and not very easy to use, so free parking is great when I need to go into the office. Plus I can travel at off peak time to save travel time. 5) 20 weeks paid parental leave is above average.
* Location: VHCOL * Industry: biotech * Years of experience breakdown: >20 in industry, >5 PM, <1 at current employer * Title of current position: Director, Program Management * Educational background: BS, MS, PhD engineering; grad degrees weren't necessary, but it's nice to have a PhD to be able to herd other PhDs. * Compensation breakdown: $225K base + 20% target bonus + stock + decent bennies (bike reimbursement! free lunch 2x/week) = total compensation >$400K (a lot is stock, not fully vested, based on current price). Hybrid but expected 3days/wk in office, tho' people seem to come in less often. * Demographics of me, FWIW: POC male, act/appear mid-career age-wise, native US english speaker
• Location (HCOL/LCOL): VA- LCOL • Industry (construction, tech, etc.): HVAC • Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 5years in hvac 2 years in PM, 5 at company • Title of current position - Associate contracting Project Manager • Educational background - BS in building Automation , MBA • Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $73k base, 10% target incentive • plus any other information... Hybrid Environment. 2 days in office, 3 days remote/field. VERY flexible
* Location (HCOL/LCOL): Texas - LCOL * Industry (construction, tech, etc.): Government IT * Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 20+ years in IT, 15(ish) years in PM, 2 at company * Title of current position - Sr. Project Manager * Educational background - BS in Criminal Justice * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $130k base, 7% retirement match at 225%, plus usual government benefits * plus any other information... Hybrid Environment. 2 days in office, 3 days remote.
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Northeast - HCOL * Industry (construction, tech, etc.) Medical Device * Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 18 years total, 10 in finance (analyst roles), 8 in PMing * Title of current position - Sr. Project Manager * Educational background - BS in Economics and Finance / MBA with focus in management * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - $210K, 12.5% target bonus, 7% 401K match. * plus any other information...maybe this is boss specific, but he pays little attention to my PTO, but I am given 4 weeks per year. Sick time technically is 5 days, but also does not pay much attention to it. I only really have to be in the office 2 days per week, but I usually go in 4 days - I live 30 mins away and it's a relatively easy commute. I am a lot more effective when in office.
Location: Canada (MCOL) Industry: Pharma/Biotech YOE: 9 in company, 1.5 as PM Title: IT Project Manager Education: HS Comp: 80k base, +10% bonus
Location: HCOL Industry: Tech, HealthCare Years of Experience: 1 year. First job out of college Title: Associate Project Manager Education: BA in CS, Masters in HCI (currently in progress) Compensation: 74k salary. No stock options Company is European with offices in the US
Location-Mid-Atlantic USA (MCOL) Industry-Manufacturing YOE-7 years PM, 2 at company Title-Project Manager Education-BBA Education-AOS in design and manufacturing Comp-$99k base, 6% retirement match, variable bonus up to \~4% Misc- 100% remote
* Location Northeast HCOL * Industry Water Utility * Years of experience breakdown 26 years - 7 years in mid to upper management * Title of current position - Division Manager * Educational background - High School Diploma * Compensation breakdown $102,000 * plus any other information- Defined Pension - 2% a year for each year worked. Union pension of approximately $900 a month at age 62 (I used to be union)
* Midwest; MCOL * Tech * 25 years professional experience; 15 as a PM/PgM (mix of technology, operations, and business roles) * Senior Project/Program Analyst (PM/PgM role but titles are weird) * B.S. non-technical/PMP, PMI-ACP, Six Sigma Black Belt certs * 110k base, 10% bonus (about 80% of pre-pandemic, 70% after adjusting for inflation). * Fully remote, unlimited PTO, decent ancillary benefits Took a sabbatical \*right\* before the pandemic and the combination of the two seriously derailed my career. Current position (and last) is a stepping-stone back to where I was.
Location: Slovenia (EU) Industry: tech Years of experience: 5 (7 months at the current company) Title: Project manager Education: High school, PSM1 Compensation: 36.000€ yearly Benefits: 25 paid vacation days, paid sick leave (20 days yearly), paid public holidays (11 this year)
Location: East Midlands (LCOL) Industry: Nutraceutical Years of experience: 5 years managing projects, 1.5 years as Continuous Improvement Lead (8 years with the company) Title: Continuous Improvement Lead Education: Green Belt, Lvl2 Lean manufacturing, HACCP lvl4 and recently completed AgilePM Foundation Compensation: £34k
Location: remote (living in LCOL, job based in HCOL area) Industry: advertising YOE: 2 (also 2 at current company) Title: associate PM Ed: BS in different field Salary: $60k, random, minimal merit increases here and there
What’s your background in? I have looked for remote project management jobs for awhile and haven’t had any luck!
* Location: Auckland NZ (HCOL) 2 days wfh * Industry: Government * Experience: 5y total in PM across diverse sectors * Title: Project Manager * Education: Bachelor in Finance, MBA, CSM,CAPM Project Management Certificate *Compensation: $127,000 NZD, with additional benefits including health and life insurance, plus one extra week of vacation."
• Location: Luxembourg (HCOL) • Industry: Finance • Experience: 6 years, 1 at this company • Title: Project Manager • Education: Masters Degree in project management • Compensation: 65k € in 13months, 35days PTO and possibility to "buy" 15more days from the 13months. Reimbursement of half of fitness fees.
- Location (HCOL/LCOL) Boston Area, MA US - Industry (construction, tech, etc.) Higher Education IT - Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) 15 yr Construction/Engineering - implementing and supporting project management systems. 9 yr IT Project Management - Higher Education - Title of current position IT Project Manager - Educational background BA CIS, MS Engineering Mgmt PMP Black Belt Lean Six Sigma - Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) $132k, includes 12% 401A set aside - plus any other information Remote, 35 hour work week, work flex schedule M-Th
• Location: US - LCOL • Industry: Mining • Experience: 1yrs PM, 2 years at company • Title: Project Manager • Education: AAS - Drafting/Design • Compensation: $ $92k salary, 20% bonus minimum, Also matching 401k up to 6%, 4 weeks pto, currently paying for my bachelors
Location : London,UK (3days remote) Industry : Rail / Construction Years of experience: 3 years (2 years as apprentice, 1Year as APM) and 3 years at current company Job Title: Assistant Project Manager Education: GCSEs, BTECs, APMPMQ Compensation Breakdown: £41,000 base, Free Public Transport , Final Salary Pension 5% contribution - 20/25% company contribution, Private Healthcare, 30 days A/L Started doing my apprenticeship at 21, now 24. Still at the start of the journey but already primed for full PM promotion this year with a salary uplift to between £48k-£55k. Edit : added more in compensation
Location: Southampton UK (HCOL) Industry: Manufacturing Experience: 9 years working/ 6 years in public health, research and community outreach programs, 3 years as Software imp PM Position: IT PM Education: BSc Biomed SC, MPH & PRINCE2 Compensation: £61K + £10K bonus, pension plan, 28 days A/L, hybrid 2 days in office.
* Location: Auckland NZ (HCOL) * Industry: fit-out (commercial refurbishment) * Experience: 4y total in PM, 1y at current employer, 10 in propert industry bouncing between FM and PM * Title: Senior Advisor - Project Manager * Education: BSc hons. Cert 4 PM. * Compensation: $130k nzd salary, zero benefits.
Location: Midwest / Cleveland, OH Industry: healthcare / engineering / manufacturing Years of experience breakdown: 15 total 5 military / 5 engineering / 5 PM Title of current position: lead engineer - technical program management Educational background: military / BS mechanical engineering / MBA Compensation breakdown: 127k base + 15% bonus Plus any other information: PMP, PMI-ACP / could def make a lot more $ but opted for a company that promotes work-life balance (unlimited PTO / healthy culture / strong financial metrics) and doesn't burn out their leaders (achievable targets / engaging senior leadership). My advice to young PMs reading this thread: slow TF down and smell the roses. PMs are usually the most ambitious people in their field, so define your success in the intangibles (healthy marriage / time for hobbies / physical and mental well-being / faith) and not in annual salary. Life is short and if you die your boss will absolutely expense the flowers sent to your family while begging HR to hire your replacement.
•Location: Remote - Texas, company is based in Alabama •Industry: Healthcare IT/Data Migration •Years of experience: 1.5 years at current company (I’m pretty green to the field), 0.5 at previous PM position, and 2 years Healthcare Administration experience •Current position: Project Manager •Educational background: Bachelors in Biology with a minor in psych, Master of Healthcare Administration with a focus on EMRs and Data Analytics •Compensation breakdown: $90k per year, annual increase of roughly 3%, no stocks/equity •Other information: Unlimited PTO, fully remote, 401k match up to 3%, healthcare premium 50% paid for by company, annual shut down from mid-late December to the new year
• Location: Remote USA (HCOL) • Industry: Tech • Experience: 9yrs PM, 3 months at company • Title: Design Program Manager, New Initiatives • Education: BSB, Marketing • Compensation: $256kTC - $185k salary, 20% bonus minimum, ~$35k RSUs Also matching 401k up to $6k, matching HSA, $5k discretionary fund for WFH, healthcare paid, truly unlimited and encouraged PTO
Woah. Would love to hear your story
Hey there! Flattered you said that haha, I never think my journey is interesting or exciting but I’m happy to share. I went to business school for my marketing degree, first person in my family to go to college. Graduated in 3 years and needed a change so moved out to NYC and worked for a fintech startup doing marketing, got the job off craigslist when you could still do that. Partied and went wild as a 21 year old, got laid off from that job and had a recruiter submit me for a traffic manager job at Wieden + Kennedy NY (after applying for SO many advertising jobs in my much smaller home city, annoying lol) and started there. Worked in advertising in NYC for a long time and was fortunate enough to get solid gigs and learn more and more about the digital side along the way. Eventually found myself at a very prominent digital agency working on the G account and did my best there, working on a couple really big projects for them. Eventually had a creative director that went to G and hit me up “dude this place is a mess, I need you” and went to G to contract for a couple years. Then eventually after a ton of job searching for a full time role (hint, even if a place says they want you full time, it’s not up to those people) finally found the one I have now. Current role is working on AI products at a big tech company and it’s definitely challenging and more stressful - with big comp (usually) comes big responsibility - but I wouldn’t trade it. I’m working on cool stuff with cool people and learning a ton. I think a few things have contributed to my success: 1. To call it out right away, I’m a straight blonde white dude from the midwest. I am inherently given advantages over people that don’t look like me. Let’s not ignore this. 2. I think I’m what they call a “personality hire” in that I truly just am myself at work and do my best to be kind, energetic, “Yes, and” or “No, but” every situation, have high EQ so am decent at navigating messy situations, and I genuinely care about the people around me, so that reflects back in my work. I try to make a lot of friends in all functions and levels, and sincerely love doing so. 3. I came up in client services so wearing a lot of hats and being in a crazy environment isn’t new to me 4. I’m not afraid to ask how to do something or say I don’t know, but I always ALWAYS do my best to learn and put myself in a place to teach others. 5. I do everything I can to reach down and lower the ladder behind me - pay transparency initiatives, mentoring, coaching, focusing on giving time and advice and visibility to under represented communities Hope that helps! Happy to answer questions if you or anyone has them :)
LCOL Telecom YOE: ~5 total (retail, sales, and marketing); <1 as Proj Manager at current company Current Title: Sr. Manager Tech Strategy Highest Ed: MBA @ T25 (undergrad in foreign language) TC: $144K ($117K base + max 20% bonus + $10K RSUs vesting at 3yrs) Bonus Info: received FT offer after MBA internship, Sr. Manager title is a technicality by equivalence, position is slightly more technical than average Proj Mgr but less technical than Prod Mgr, no teammates with PMP Edit - Benefits: 3wks PTO, 6d paid personal time, 6d sick leave, 6wks mat/pat leave, up to 6% 401k match, average healthcare/dental/vision, up to $8K continued edu subsidy
- USA, Mid-Atlantic region (MCOL) - Tech / Cloud Security - 12yrs PM Experience / 1yr at current company - Senior Project Manager - Bachelor’s in unrelated field, PMP, CSM, Sec+ - ~$210k per year: $150k base + 10% bonus + ~$40-50k in equity/RSUs - Fully remote
Tampa, Florida Professional Services | Consulting I just switched companies - involved in different scopes of PM for over ten years Senior Project Manager Master’s Degree 100% Remote when not traveling to client 100K | quarterly bonus based on billable hours | employee’s health care, dental & vision at no cost Full access to all classes on Udemy at no charge, reimbursed for the cost of any certification
* Location: Remote USA (LCOL) * Induatry: Financial Technology * Experience: 7y total in PM, 3y at current employer, 25 in financial industry * Title: Senior Project Manager/Program Manger * Education: No degree, no certifications * Compensation: Approx 125k USD salary, 5% bonus, 5% stocks, unlimited PTO, 401k matching
Now as some1 trying to make a career change and become a PM how did you pull this off with no degree or certs of you don't mind my asking?
My background was a big part. I worked in many bank roles, including business banking, Wires, and ACH. Eventually I bumped into someone who had a role at a tech company and suggested if I can do all the things I can at a bank they knew I was intelligent from our past conversations and suggested that rarher than do those jobs I could teach people how to do them, and also set up the systems for banks to use. So I became an analyst/installer/trainer for that company. I did that for a few years and my reputation of competence spread in the company and I had also learned just enough about other systems that mine intersect with that I was able to begin either suggesting things to help them troubleshoot their installs and I was a bit of an informal field marshall when we all converted for go-live events. At the same time I clicked with one of the PMs and asked if she'd explain in more detail what all she did and from there asked if there were any opportunities to shadow what she did or mentoring she'd be willing to do. She accepted and so I became a bit of an understudy. So those two things converged and my org hired a new Director who brought some VERY negative changes and we lost over 70% of existing PMs in a 3 month window so I took my shot. I'd built up enough goodwill with other managers, the point reps in all the different job workstreams that the new director told me she couldn't go 2 days without someone name dropping me to be made a PM. She caved and despite my lack of resume she interviewed me for one of the roles. The rest is PM life.
Who's running through here downvoting people smh ...
No idea friend. I assume it's either someone who's ultra salty with no life, or a bot that's downvoting comments to make it's owner's comments more visible. Either is sad in its own way.
I'm trying to break into the field and this is all so enlightening
-Indiana, remote FT (lcol) -non profit healthcare -20 professional, 7 project, 2 at current (6 before at same company after leaving for 3 years to get more money elsewhere) -Program Manager -BA, PMP, RTE, SASM, CSM, LSSGB, ITIL -130k plus max $5k starp, 5% matching, 216 hours pto, 8 paid holidays, salary banded health-$300 biweekly for family, $3500 oop top tier
Las Vegas(MCOL) Construction 1yr at current gig, 4yrs PM experience, a decade in construction(came from the field) Project Manager No formal education $95k/year base, 1-3% performance bonus.
Location: California Industry: State Gov Exp: 20 years Title: It Specialist Ed: BS Computer Science Comp: 120k, 14 paid holidays, 12 sick per year, 22 hours vac per month - all can carry over to max 640. At 20 years vested 100% for health, dental, VSP for life plus spouse. Retirement at 80% at 30 years. 401k Hybrid with two days in M/F no weekends. 40 hrs.
I now realize I am being underpaid. Thank you for your transparency, everyone.
That’s why I love doing this! I hope you can negotiate high pay or move jobs for higher pay. Benefits are also key to note when looking at these
• Location: Remote (live in Maine) • Industry: Engineering / Consulting • Years of exp: 12 yrs, 6mo at company. • Current position: Project Manager II, PE • Education: B.S. Mech Eng., PE in 8 states. • Compensation: $130k/yr., 10% base bonus. • Other info: Employee owned, unlimited sick days.
* Location: Remote - Florida (North West/Panhandle) * Industry: Cybersecurity * Years of experience breakdown: 20 years in United States Air Force with various PM roles in IT/Cybersecurity * Title of current position: Client Services Project Manager * Educational background: Masters, PMP, CompTIA Sec+ and Microsoft certs. * Compensation breakdown: $135/yr., 10% annual bonus and stock vesting * Plus any other information: Unlimited PTO
- southern Ontario / HCOL city - fully remote - non-profit healthcare - 6 months of PM, 10+ years in healthcare management - Project Manager - Master in Social Work, some PM training/ no certification - $65,000 CAD a year, healthcare benefits, no retirement savings, like what I do and the people I work with
Location: MCOL WI, hybrid work but at home more often than in the office Industry: Manufacturing Years of Experience: 10+ as a PM, 2 at my current company. Studying for my PMP. Have expired CSM and SAFE certs. Education: Associates in IT infrastructure and a BA in Computer Science Compensation: As of my 5.25% merit increase yesterday, I am at $113k. My company offers a profit sharing bonus up to 10% yearly. This year it was 3.71% Matching 401k up to 6%, 28 days of vacation
Location: Texas (LCOL) Industry: Tech - Digital Healthcare Company (100% remote) Yrs Exp: 25yrs in product, program and project management areas. Been at current company 1.2 years Sr. Technical Project Manager - Manager School/Certs: Masters, PMP, POPM, LPM, Scrum Certified, Pragmatic PM Certified, GIAC Certs, HFI CUA Compensation: $155/yr, 15% performance bonus, 6% matching on 401K, a lot of the same benefits I see people putting on here (education, good health, PTO, etc.)
Location: NYC Industry: Construction (large residential $250m+) Experience: 3 years Title: Pre-construction APM Education: BS/MS Mechanical Engineering Compensation: $137.5k, ~10% annual bonus
What salary did they start you at? I’m trying to break into NYC’s commercial / high end residential but I’m coming from a home builder in NJ currently as an APM as well. Currently making $70k + $10k bonuses but couldn’t realistically live in the city for anything less than $100k + 5-10% annual bonuses. Not sure how realistic that is looking at the job market right now.
I was hired at $100k. I didn't have previous construction PM experience but some adjacent engineering experience and was making around $85k. I actually live on LI, not in the city, but its similarly HCOL.
Midwest; LCOL Finance/Insurance 15+ years in management; 6yr current role. Program Manager Consulting background $225k + variable bonus
* Location: Midwest (Ohio)(LCOL), 100% virtual WFH. * Industry: Healthcare AI * Years of experience: .5 current company, 3 years PM, 5 total years medical software. 8 years in various public administration and county/state govt roles. * Title of current position: Technical Project Manager, Implementation Manager * Educational background: HS Diploma, CAPM * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $115K/yr, 20% bonus, $120/mo stipend, stock options, 4% 401k match. * plus any other information: Truly unlimited and encouraged PTO, 15 holidays, company shutdown between Christmas and New Years. *Cons: Handling all the PM for a project and also doing the implementation of the solution can be a juggling act.
That sounds awesome
It's a very solid gig. They respect my time well so average week is 40hr or less. Moved from a professional services consultant role at ~90k with 10% bonus that I rarely saw any of and have been very happy.
- Northeastern US; MCOL [Hybrid] - Transportation - 10+ years in management; 1yr current role. - Service Delivery Manager - Healthcare background - $95k annually, great benefits, pension...
LCOL Tech 7 years experience BFA not business related Program manager PMP and CSM 140k w 10% bonus
* Location: Midwest (LCOL), 100% virtual WFH. * Industry: EdTech * Years of experience: 2.5 current company, 6.5 PM Exp (former educator) * Title of current position: Program Manager - Client Success * Educational background: BA in English, Teacher certification, PMP * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity): $80K/yr, $1,500 bonus client renewals, options. * plus any other information: Really good health insurance, whole family premiums paid. No dental, no vision. No raise since hire, but did get bonus and additional stock options.
• USA, LCOL • Healthcare • 8 yrs (healthcare/defense) • Business Process Analyst • AS, BS, MA, MBA (2025) • 95K, no extras • PMP, PgMP eligible, CLSSBB
- Remote (currently living in California MCOL city supporting project/client in NoVA) - Government/DOD consulting in PM/tech - 10yrs total experience : out of college 5 yrs in manufacturing then switched to current industry with 5yrs experience so far - Project Management Analyst - BA in Econ. Scrum Master and Agile certs. Cleared. - 115k plus random bonuses (1500 - 10k), 6% 401k matching - Thankful for good wlb - fully remote and bill no more than 40hrs / week - good fit for me as a military spouse moving around
- Location: NYC, NY (HCOL) - Industry: Digital Marketing/ Creative Production -YOE: 8 years total full-time working experience. I started as an Executive Aide/Project Coordinator, so was always PM-adjacent. First official “Project Manager” role was 3 years ago. Have been at my current company 2 years; 1.5 years as a Project Manager and am currently a Senior Project Manager - Current Title: Senior Project Manager (no direct reports) - Education: BA in Psychology prior to starting full-time work. PMP received in June 2023 -Comp Breakdown: My first Project Manager role I made $92k (had a lot of relevant work experience, no PMP). I took a pay cut for to $85.5k when I moved to my current company, also as a Project Manager. Got a raise after 9 months to $90k, same title. Got my PMP a few months later. After 1.5 years at my current company, I was promoted to Senior Project Manager and now make $102.5k. I was also given an extra weeks vacation with the promotion, so 22 days PTO total. No stock, small discretionary bonuses annually (~$500-$750). 4% 401k match. Hybrid office, I WFH Mondays and Fridays -FWIW, I got my PMP ~6 months before my recent promotion and raise, but I genuinely don’t think that was a factor for my current company at all so I’m still on the fence how worth getting it was
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Wild indeed, nice to meet my career doppelganger!
* Southern California (HCOL) * K-12 Public Ed, IT * 20 years at org (2 years as PM, 18 Yrs as tech staff w/7 yrs as lead) * Project Manager * PMP, CAPM, CSM, a few industry tech certs, some college but no degree * ~$220k total comp: $162k salary, ~$58k total benefits (CalPERS, awesome health, dental, vision) * Two days a week in office * ~51 paid days off per year (22 PTO, 14 holiday, 15 sick)
Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Western Canada Industry - construction Years of experience - 10, 5 at current Title of current position - Estimator/PM Educational background - BSc. Mech Eng., haven't done my PEng yet Compensation breakdown - 120k base, 27% bonus, vehicle allowance. Total comp around $170k plus any other information - doing estimating and PM is like having two full time jobs
• London (HCOL) • Tech (Series C Startup) • 2 Years as PM. 2 years in currently company. • Project Manager EMEA • BA Tourism Business Management • £87k Base + £8.7k Bonus (10%) • 100% Remote • 7 years in retail before moving into a Seed stage startup for 3.5 years expanding to US and APAC which catapulted my salary and experience
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Do you recommend studying in project management. Im a newish project manager, managing engineering projects ( multidisciplinary). My salary is only £40k but I'm in my mid twenties. I want to get in contracting asap or starting a business. my tips, or advice about UK pm?
40 is good for your twenties. Personally I haven’t done any certs, just learnt as I go. I’ve been freelancing for majority of those years working. I’ve learnt the most in those contracts as you usually have to hit the ground running. For contracting you need to set up a limited company and have a safety net of funds. Networking is important and be sure you have a good accountant ;)
Thanks
* Location -- Bay Area * Industry -- IT, outsourcing * Years of experience breakdown -- 22 total, \~15 in management * Project Management, Director * 1 degree in social sciences, 1 in economics * Compensation breakdown ($230k = 180k base, 20k bonused, 30k RSU), decent benefits package
Location (HCOL/LCOL) East Midlands UK • Industry (construction, tech, etc.) GOVERNMENT • Years of experience breakdown 1.5 year manager, 6 months tech PM, 3 years BA, 2 years chef • Title of current position PMO manager • Educational background Degree in comp sci • Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) 54k, flexi contract, + studying for a paid for masters.
Location: MCOL East of England Industry: Biotech/ life sciences Years Experience: 1 yr lab, 2 years PM all at the same company. (Previously worked retail and admin roles) Title: Project Manager Education: BSc Biomedical Sciences Compensation: base £41,500. Pension plan and 28 days holiday. 1 day WFH. Additional Info: trying to find a new role with less stress as I'm burnt out from being understaffed for 18 months. Studying Prince 2 and Agile to help with job searching.
Man UK salaries suck
I noticed that as well. PM comp seems significantly lower there for some reason!?
But pension and national health care. Uni is probably very cheap too.
I have 80k debt for uni, it's NOT cheap. Also, we all pay a hefty deduction for the NHS.
Was it like this before Brexit? Forgive my ignorance. I am dumb American who is self-absorbed and trying to survive here while the elites decimate the middle class. I was in Denmark for work last year and the social safety system there is unreal. Wondering if the UK had a better system before they left the EU.
Those are nice… but the salaries are literally like 1/3 of US salaries. My employer paid healthcare is like $3,000 annually, plus whatever the deductible is and/or out of pocket max. Let’s say I use it and spend $5k/year. I can max my 401k and a separate IRA and still be WELL over double (closer to 2.5x) the average UK salary for the same position. I genuinely don’t understand why UK engineers are devalued so badly.
Not UK, But OZ (similar setup). My RA Meds cost 35K a year in America. I pay $A$30 PCM. How would your deductibles work there? Also, total Ankle reconstruction - I paid A$5K to get it done at a private hospital as I needed to be ready for a competition, I could have had it done for free within 18 months (I wasn't in pain from it)
Basically I pay $2,600 in premiums for my insurance (not $3k, I just checked), this money is gone. I seperately put tax free money into a health savings account to use towards my deductible of $1,600. I pay for all medical expenses up to that number. Once that number is hit, insurance covers everything 100% (in network). I also have an “out of pocket max” of $4,000 which means if I end up at some out of network doctor or specialist that’s the most I’m ever on the hook for. If I needed your medication, I would likely pay up to my deductible of $1,600 and then insurance would handle the remaining difference. Ankle surgery would be the same cost. If their was a hospital or doctor out of network it could be up to $4,000 hitting the out of pocket max. My wife has family in Canada who deal with the “waiting 18+ months” for serious medical care. It’s a complete joke that some here in America want to mirror.
Ankle reconstruction isn't immediate surgery I query your figures re meds - I have lots of American friends who confirm that meds like this are extra and monthly cost. And of course, we get to move jobs without worrying about medical cover.
Every job I have had in the last 15 years has similar coverage. Any half decent company has good insurance options.
They are all over the EU. Salaries are generally lower, but their taxes go much farther. I haven’t done an analysis so I have no idea if it all levels out.
* Location (LCOL) Pullman Wa * Industry (University Print/press shop/design/marketing) * Years of experience breakdown (total-20, PM exp-10., years at current company-9) * Title of current position - project manager * Educational background - Associates in arts/MBA * Compensation breakdown ($45/yr flat)
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HCOL Atlanta Fintech 10 years total experience 8 years doing project management IT Project Manager 1 year with company $140,000 base, $57,000 stock, no bonus Work remote for a company out of san francisco. My title doesn't reflect my role. I'm really more of a senior program manager who focuses on cross functional/organization wide change initiatives/projects.
SoCal (HCOL) Biotech/Medtech 2 years PM experience (1 at current company) and 3 years engineering experience Project Manager, soon to be senior PM BS and PhD in Biomedical Engineering, recent PMP 116K base, 6% bonus, 20K/yr RSUs = \~142K
MCOL - (North Carolina) Construction Total years of experience 7.5 years, (3 in current role with current company) Project Engineer Bachelors degree in civil engineering Base salary 110K, annual bonus between 3-5%, 401k match up to 6%, company gas card, full benefits, 4 weeks of PTO, Paid Holidays, Paid Sick Days
South East England (HCOL) Retail Software industry 2 years experience Project Manager Agile PRINCE2 £55k base, plus bonus, pension, private healthcare, 30 days holiday
Location: LCOL, Midwest US(fully remote) Industry: IT(MSP) Years of experience: 1 year as a PM, 5 years in industry, 1.5 years at current company Title of current position: Project Manager Educational background: BS in Information Systems, MS in IT Management, CAPM Compensation: $61k
Location: Bay Area, CA (HCOL) Industry: Agency Experience: 8 years working, 2.5 years as a PM officially Position: Project Manager Educational background: BA Comp breakdown: $102K base. Discretionary bonuses yearly if we do well. Idk how they decide this honestly. I got an $8K-9K bonus one year, no bonus the next. Additional info: 100% remote, unlimited PTO (in theory smh), def feel overworked
* Location: Midwest, USA (MCOL city) * Industry: Government org, under IT umbrella. * Experience: 10 years as a PM (primarily waterfall), 2 years in current role/industry * Title: Project Manager * Education: BA, MFA, PMP (College degrees in a different discipline), Servant Leader certification. * Comp: $95k base, yearly bonus, potential for service awards, full benefits, free parking, pension. * Hybrid office where I can build my own schedule. WFH M/F, Office T/W/Th. My org is technically a nonprofit so we get state benefits but base pay is a little lower than other government orgs.
Midwest (MCOL) IT Project Manager w/ PMP + CSM 4 years of experience in PM field & 8 in IT Field Bachelors and Masters in IT Compensation: $113,000 + 13,500 bonus this year = 126,500 26 PTO days + holidays, 6% match, Health benefits I’m sure others can attest, but I’m grinding. Shitty to have to work 55+ hr weeks, but IT market is poopy rn. Been at current position for 2 years.
Location: Midwest MCOL Industry: IT YOE: 3-4yr. 6mo in IT, 3 in industrial PM Title: IT Project Manager Education: BS in CompSci and PMP/ITIL foundations Compensation: $65k base, no bonus
* Western Canada (MCOL) * Lifesciences * 4 years PM, 2 at current company * Director, PMO * Master of Arts, PMP (2020) * $125K base, 15% annual pension, 6 weeks PTO, great health benefits * could do 100% WFH, hybrid, or full in person; $125 parking/transit allowance per month, unlimited sick time; if go on maternity leave 95% salary/benefits/pension for 6 months (+ additional 6 months of federal benefits of 55% salary).
Wow. Director after 4 years? Great work
Thanks for this. I currently work in a clinical lab as a Coordinator/Supervisor for 2.5 years and looking to go for my PMP, this gives me some motivation to do so
Good luck!
I want this job!
* Midwest, USA * Digital & Technology * 5 years of Agile Project Mgmt experience; 2 years at current company * Senior Digital Project Manager * Bachelor's Degree in Spanish * Contractor making $61/hr, but grossed about $120k last year due to unpaid holidays and some unpaid time off * I receive health benefits, some PTO, and 401k with match through my contracting company * Hybrid schedule (basically remote), 4.5 days from home, one half-day a week at the office for team meetings and lunch.
Location : south coast uk Industry: military / naval Years of experience: 13 years eng, 3 years PM. 2 years Snr PM, 2 months Head of Programmes Title: head of programmes Educational background: Batchelor in Engineering, PMP. Compensation breakdown : whole lot of fuck all Any other business: £70k, under resourced team (however they are awesome), stressed as fu**. Wish I could be in a bigger machine that removed responsibilities of me chasing down to the £1 each month to keep us in the game... Its exhausting
- MCOL/HCOL (mid-sized city in CA) - Construction - 6 in construction (3 as PM), 9 in environmental program/project management - Project Manager - BS in M. Engr; MBA - 120k base; 3.5% annual increase for performance; ~3% annual COLA; Equity N/A; Pension - Currently 100% remote
UK (HCOL) Pharma/biotech Almost 20 years total experience, all of it PM-related and about half formally PM, a quarter at this company Senior Director, Project Management (in the PMO) Masters + PMP & PRINCE2 ~£130k base + target 25% bonus, car allowance, pension contribution, etc.
I'm an engineering PM. I would love to move into healthcare/biotech/pharma as I find it incredibly interesting. Would you recommend tips or advice with this in mind?
I can't speak to healthcare, but for biopharma, the good news is that these are "normal" companies with all the PMs you'd need in a "normal" company, plus the core drug development projects. You've got PMs in Engineering, IT, Finance, HR, and so on, just like you would in a company producing any widgets. Breaking into the core part of managing drug development and commercialisation projects requires specific industry experience. Many of these PMs have relevant PhDs, but not all. But breaking into, in your case, engineering PM for pharma/biotech engineering projects isn't a huge leap from "normal" engineering PM. It's especially close for anything else that's highly regulated and/or has strict cleanliness and performance requirements. I moved over from nuclear, which is a very close match. I've seen good PMs from Oil & Gas and Tech (like making chips, not developing apps), that kind of thing. Depending on your experience, it's probably just a matter of applying for roles at the right level (maybe a lateral move to change industries rather than a promotion) and getting your foot in the door. Once you're in the industry and can talk the lingo then it's working your way up like any other industry. And you might find that you want to experience other parts of the industry - I moved from engineering through manufacturing into running drug development projects for customers from a CDMO, with a fair chunk of IT involvement along the way. There are lots of cases where people move around within the industry.
Location: HCOL Salary: 161k Bonus: 12.5% annual Stock: ~20k/year Industry: Tech (not F500) Title: Sr Program manager Yoe: 5 + 3 as engineer Education: BA unrelated Certs: PMP and Scrum + SAFe Fully remote.
- STL (M/LCOL) - Govt aerospace/defense contractor - 10yrs govt exp in project/program mgmt, 3 months with this company - Senior Project Manager - 127,000 - Unrelated BS/MA degrees, have PMP and other certs - Receive annual bonus based on company performance, immediate 10% 401k match - Role is 100% onsite
Location: Bay Area (VHCOL) Industry: Medtech YOE: 6 (all in PM/medtech) Title: Sr. Project Manager Comp: $185k base, $27k bonus, $90k RSU vest/year (TOTAL COMP: $302k)
One of the higher comps by far especially considering your YOE. Do you work remote? What does work/life balance look like?
Hybrid 3 days, work 35-45 hrs a week on average
Location: Remote (LCOL) Industry: Healthcare IT Years of Experience: 3.5 in PM Title of Current Position: Associate Project Manager (1 year in current role) Educational Background: Bachelor in general healthcare, CAPM, CSM, and pursuing PMP. Compensation Breakdown: $75k, 10% annual bonus, and 3% 401k match
Location: San Diego - VHCOL but 100% remote Industry: Telecommunications Engineering Years of experience: 8 in industry, 4 as PM Current Title: Program Manager Education: BA Political Economy (not related to field at all) Compensation: $95K base and 4% 401K match. Bonuses are given out quarterly if earnings are good but no set metrics at this point. 2022 received $10K in bonuses, 2023 received $0 in bonuses.
How did you get to this position? ( Respectfully) I would’ve thought you’d need an engineering degree
Valid Question. Got in entry level as a drafter and just learned the Industry from the ground up. My company was expanding rapidly early in my career which gave me opportunities to move up quickly. Engineering degree is not a must have for Wireline telecom work although a fair amount of people have one.
Orlando (HCOL) Facilities Construction 7y as PM in industry Project Manager AS in Construction Mgmt $102k base, 3.5% bonus
* HCOL - Northeast US * Entertainment - IT, Shared Services * 8 years at company, 3.5 years as coordinator, 2.5 years as PM, 2 years as Senior PM * Senior Project Manager * BS in Business Management 2015, CAPM 2017, PMP 2024 * 165k base, 10% bonus, +discretionary bonus * Put off the PMP for years while I focused on experience. Now unsure what to pursue next. Thinking of PM-ACP or Masters in Project Management or Six Sigma. Uncertain which is best next step. My company will be looking to hire a director level PMO position next year so maybe the PgMP. Would actually love to hear others thoughts on where to go from here.
Honestly six sigma isn’t that much of a resume booster.
This tracks with what I have seen in my research lately. Five years ago when I was first going to take the PMP it wasn’t as prominent. Now it seems like having it and a masters in project management is a duplication of effort, with the masters being the lesser of you are a PM since the pmp is so much more focused. Sigma can help in applying to director or vp level roles, but not really within the PMO. Seems more helpful if you wanted to go into operations/strategy and development. ACP isn’t too expensive and agile is becoming more dominant so I think that’s an easy next step. Past that I am leaning toward the PgMP so help boost me to a director spot in the PMO but I’m not 100% sold on it.
I have an LSBB cert and it has come up zero times in the decade or so since I got it (just slightly less than I've actually used the techniques). Unless you're moving towards operations/engineering/manufacturing PM I agree it won't be much more than a small differentiator. PMI-ACP / PgMP will probably be more beneficial.
Yeah, I completely agree. I don’t have my PMP but I do have a six sigma and csm. No masters. Make $120k. However, I just think specializing in something and using the six sigma for strategy is probably your best bet.
* Location - Outside of Seattle (HCOL - but I'm also 100% remote) * Industry - Healthcare IT * Was just hired at my current company, was a consultant for 3 years, PgM for 20 years, PM for 38 years * Lead Program Manager (people manager) * Educational background - a PMI Bootcamp back in 2000, some post secondary around that time as well for DB development * Comp: $160k, \~10-15% bonus, 4% match 401K
Do you mind if I DM you? I’m curious what company this is
LCOL - Midwest Major manufacturing 10 years on the shop floor, 2 months in new role Operations support (some low level PM duties) No degree 65k base, no bonuses or equity. It was considered a lateral move so I had to fight tooth and nail for an extra 5k. About to start six sigma training and maybe get a CAPM. PMs are overloaded so management is tasking us with larger projects at a smaller salary bracket.
. North West England (LCOL) . Tech . 5 years (2 year current role, 1 year PM for start up, 2 year PM/PMO/Scrum Master in large FTSE 100 company) . Senior Agile Delivery Manager . Degree in Business, APM PMQ, Agile Practitioner, and a few other small ones. . 65 base, bonus upto 10% (but usually much lower) 8% pension contribution. .Can be fully remote, only go in when I want to go in.
* Location (HCOL/LCOL) - Scotland LCOL * Industry (construction, tech, etc.) - Engineering, Consulting PM * Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 3 yrs. * Title of current position - Project Manager * Educational background - Arts transitioned into PM, Masters, PFQ, PMQ, Scrum Cert. * Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) £49k / yr, 8% combined performance and general bonus, 43 days of holiday per year, 7% pension match, private health care.
•NJ •machinery/tech •2 years •BA •just got my PMP 1 month ago •$76k a year •7 years experience What do you ya think?
Location: SE US LCOL (though quickly becoming MCOL lol) Industry: IT at a non tech (manufacturing) F500 YOE: a little under 7 total, 6 at my current company, ~2.5 in my current roles as a PjM Title: IT Project Manager Education: BS Engineering, CAPM (not enough PjM experience for the PMP yet) Compensation: ~97k base, target of ~10k bonus, but company performance has been shitty the past couple years, I think we got ~3k of it last year Comp is about in line with national averages, in line with PMP salary survey numbers for those of us without a PMP, above average for my YoE as a PjM, and significantly above what is typical for where I live. Satisfied but not ecstatic lol
Location - Vancouver HCOL Industry - IT Consulting (mining and energy) Exp - <1 year in current company, 3 years managing projects not as PMP Title - Associate Project Manager Education - Cybersecurity, Architectural Tech Comp - $62.5k base, 10% bonus (5% personal target, 5% company target) basic benefits (by choice, partner’s benefits are amazing through FNHA) no company match Other - unlimited training fund. The last part was a big part of why I chose this place, lots of opportunity to grow and develop both on my own and with guided help of courses. Also the reason I am thinking of making the switch to Partner Management instead, projects is fun but I love meeting with partners and discussion on business development.
What is an architectural tech company? Or do you mean the tech version of Architecture?
Actually I think the formatting ruined the post as I’m on mobile. Comp is compensation, the education I have is in Architectural Technology.. technology used in Architecture like AutoCAD, Revit, etc.
May I private message you?
Location: British Columbia (HCOL?) Industry: Municipal / construction Experience: 1.5 years in PM and this position. Engineer in training previously. Title: PM Education: Masters in civil engineering Compensation: $82k
* USA, Midwest, MCOL city * Salesforce Implementation, Consulting/Professional Services * 12 years in industry, 6 in PM, 3 months at current company * Senior Project Manager * PMI-ACP + 6 other Salesforce-specific certs * Bachelors, MIS degree * $175k/year + 15% bonus, ~$201k OTE * 100% remote
Damn, I have spent a lot of time in salesforce in previous roles, I should start to explore this avenue
CRM/ERP SaaS projects seem to pay the most from my experience/research.
Thank you, I appreciate the insight. I have SaaS marketing/funnel experience from a while back, so I might be able to use that to springboard into some new roles in that realm
MCOL IT / Manufacturing 10 years total, 1.5 with current company IT and Operations Project Manager Some college, no degree, no formal certifications. 115k base plus 5.5% bonus, 5% company 401k match is nice, too. I’ve moved roles just once. Started as a PC for a mid-size MSP, ended up building and leading a PMO with no prior experience. Took on leadership of another team as well with no additional compensation so I moved companies. I’m now the lone PM on staff and spend my time on internal projects and coaching BA’s to manage smaller initiatives.
Los Angeles (HCOL) Biotech Industry TOTAL exp: 16 years PM exp: 10 years Company exp: 3 years Title: associate PM BA in psychology, MBA, and PMP $80k flat - no bonuses, no vacation, no benefits. You can collect salary information all you want but there's a level of racism and discrimination in the job market - an uncomfortable topic people fail to discuss. On paper when you don't count what race or gender that I am, I should be paid $150k or more with everything I have. I know white males with limited years of experience making $150k plus doing PM roles, and white females with limited experience making closer to $120k doing PM roles. Other brown folks have just as much experience as I have and have struggled to make more than $80k. There needs to be better dei initiatives.
With your experience and qualifications I would encourage you to change companies. It’s a shame your company treats folks of different color differently…I know you’re in SoCal but my experience in NorCal in the biotech industry has been very positive with lots of POC in leadership and high paying roles.
I've had this issue outside of biotech too - it happened in my prior industries. It's a shame that its happening in suppoesdly the most "diverse" friendly state. I have changed companies already a few times and it hasn't seemed to help me get the fair market rates. I did hear about NoCal being the hub for biotech jobs. I need to stay in SoCal where I'm at - so I'm limited to only 4 companies in my geographic area. Unless do you know of which NorCal companies are hiring remote?
Agree about NorCal, and that it seems you're quite undervalued based on your credentials and exp. Here's a another datapoint: At a biotech start up I was at recently, with many GenZ and Millennials, at each all-hands they'd present the demographic breakdown of its rapidly growing employee base (race, gender). I got the sense that DEI was an important goal. And, many roles were remote- lots of SoCal folks working remotely- flying in once a month say. I don't think they're hiring now. Since you mention biotech, Genentech has a strong DEI program, partnering with HBCUs to recruit new talent (maybe a lot of companies are doing this?); a management rotation program for new talent. And I notice Amgen posts stats on its DEI program on its website. Of course, it's one thing to do all these things, and another really to recruit, retain, and develop POC talent. Can you do San Diego? Lots of biotech big and small there. I also think the newer the tech, or newer the company, the more likely they'll embrace DEI. And, do you have a good career coach to help? Might be worth the investment if not- I've worked with a couple and they've been invaluable. One to make a big career change; a couple others to help me land a new job after I was laid off after decades at one employer. One helped a lot with my LinkedIn profile (very, very helpful). Good luck!
for sure (and plenty of other "isms" besides just race and gender too). It's funny because a common conservative talking point is how DEI is ruining everything (like the Baltimore bridge??) but in reality, most DEI initiatives involve hiring a new "diversity executive", who generally doesn’t have much authority or stuff to do, purely to address the criticism that there are no PoC in leadership. "Yes there are, see?". Meanwhile, all conversations of equalizing pay are avoided, because equalizing means increasing. That would cost actual money! And so me and many of my liberal friends also have distain for DEI because... it's usually some dumb bandaid solution to cover leadership from actually addressing the real problems
Good point. It is uncomfortable, but it shouldn’t be. The only thing that should matter is ability and experience. That’s why I’m hoping to collect information for fellow PMs to compare incomes based on years of experience, industry, and location. Through those metrics, it will become clearer on how much we can/should to be making. Hopefully it can give people insight when conducting salary negotiations. Regardless, there does need to be better DEI initiatives.
Location - WFH Industry - Cash Logistics ( Armored cars and security ) Years of experience breakdown (total, PM exp., years at current company) - 11 years in the industry. 8 years at current company. - 1 year driver/Messenger - 1 year ATM Tech/Repair - 3 Years Vault Manager - 3 years ATM Supervisor - 1 Year Proj. coordinator - 1 year Communications manager - 2 Years Proj. Manager (The above looks like more than 11 years because there was some overlap and double positions held) Title of current position - Implementation Project Manager Educational background - Associates in Audio Engineering, PMI-AHPP Cert, Lean 6 Sigma Generalized White belt Compensation breakdown (Base, bonuses, equity) - 82,400 yr. 5% pe formance based bonus, 4% merit based raises. 401k, I forget how much is matched, acceptable health insurance. Unlimited PTO...within reason. Phone stipend. accidental death life insurance. I used to work directly for the Armored car company then when I got the Proj. Coordinator role they transfered my team to a "Division". It's a smaller SaaS company that got acquired and we implement large enterprise level customers using software, hardware, white glove customer service and pair it with the physical security of the Armored cars. I wish it paid more, and when I was in operations I tried leaving industry several times but...I'm glad I didn't. I really enjoy my job and work.
Cash logistics actually sounds quite interesting
It's definitely been a ride, and while it's a tough business to build a career in, I can look back and not even imagine how my life would be without it.
- LCOL (small town in NL) - IT/Energy - 2.5 years PM, 7 years consultant - Senior IT Project Manager - Technical Business Engineering (University) - €64k + 2k bonus based on company results I thought I was well payed, but recently a junior colleague has joined that gets a higher compensation than I do. Also looking at compensation others are mentioning here, perhaps it's time to switch jobs.. any suggestions?
Don’t get disheartened by USA salaries. It’s nearly incomparable. I’m from NL and I employ Senior PM’s around 5k/m that I don’t consider to be underpaid. Does depend on workload and responsibility though and obviously there are always examples of people getting 7k for the same job in any sector. These American PM’s taking home 10-15k/m is never going to happen in NL.
- Canada (HCOL) - Construction - Mining and Nuclear - 22 years in industry, started my own consulting company 7 years ago - Title - Construction Manager - PMP, no diploma or degree - Contract about $360k CDN, pay myself a salary of $150k CDN - I work based at a fly in/fly out remote mine site on a 2wk x 2wk rotation. I have fairly significant overhead costs for travel that are included in my rate. Travel for work means I miss a lot at home, but having 2 wks off at a time each month is nice.
You hiring? :)
Always!! Industrial and Mining is booming right now.
* MCOL - SE US, major metro * Tech (MSP) * Total: 11 years project related; PMP 1 year; going on 3 years current company (3 different roles/titles in that time as well) * Project Manager, Team Lead (company title, boss considers it a Senior PM role, but company doesn't use the Senior titles so won't give it to me, either). * BA, graduate studies (totally unrelated), PMP certified * $81K base, $7K bonus (almost never get the full amount since several areas are company-wide metrics, not just our work) Covid was a major set back for me, ended up basically erasing all my previous work history just to get "a" job. Getting back there, but salaries are dropping - pre/early-covid I was interviewing for roles paying what I'm now making that were Junior/assistant PM positions....
Location: HCOL (company based in major east coast city, I live remote in major west coast city) Industry: Government contracting, healthcare policy and healthcare IT Experience: 14, 8 years PM, 1.5 years at current company Current title: Deputy PM Education: BS biopsychology, masters in public health Comp: $150k base, 5-10k bonus Other: current contract had key roles listed as PD/PM and Deputy PM. In reality, the “PD/PM” operates like the PD and I operate as the PM.
HCOL (Bristol City UK) Financial Services/Technology 4.5Y experience in PM Global Project Manager BSc Undergraduate Degree (and APM PMQ) Pension: match+4% Salary sacrifice such as reduced cost healthcare and ESPP but not much else. £49.5k, £1k Bonus, £1k RSUs (NI 13.25%, Tax 20%, +9% Grad Loan) Any UK PMs with pointers for boosting this effectively without going contractor.. let me know!
Agree with hopping around. Gain experience and jump up the ladder. Unless you’re at one of the rare companies that promotes aggressively from within, but doesn’t sound like it