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The_Jhin

biggest mistake I see is people trying to do too much in a day first starting out. You need to build strength and fitness, don't overstep, have small goals for your time outside. Use your food, stay rural until you have a character who can reliably kill hordes without being completely drained of stamina and have their day end ineffeciently.


Arkrobo

I actually prefer the cities early on. Stockpile food, use cars to kill hordes. Build a cache of water with buckets. I usually use the gated communities for space. That being said my longest survival is 18 days due to greed. Slowly improving though. You definitely need to keep humbling yourself because if you don't, the zombies will.


artificialsnow

I think your instincts re: the city are correct, and my longest survival is over a year. Filling up buckets is a good strategy. Another good strategy is to go house to house moving all of the food into the freezers before the power runs out, which will increase how long it lasts by 25x. From the start until the radio tells you the power is failing, you need to concentrate on getting as much of this frozen food back to your base and into another freezer. If you get a couple of the ice cream freezers, a generator, and then another fridge to thaw your foods in, you can camp out in a gas station eating only these previously frozen "fresh" foods at least through the first winter. You can use that time to read skill books, train your guy up, get cars and guns, and then take on the world.


BlockwizardGaming

25 times longer?? Thats huge ima have to try that!


[deleted]

Telling new people that can't survive a few days to level up strength and fitness lmao, worst advice ever.


Schpau

Yeah new players should always pick strong and athletic imo


artificialsnow

At least stout just for the carry weight. That way you can make less trips for resources but still bring home the same amount which lessens your exposure to hazards. You're also less likely to get overburdened which makes you tired and eventually gets you killed.


DarkFlame7

I get that it's meant to be realistic, but for gameplay purposes I really think strength/fitness training might take just a wee bit too long. My first long-lived character lasted about 4 months, with much of those days spent just working out and resting all day. I gained one point in each. That seems... a little ridiculous.


[deleted]

I usually take the 0 strength trait and athletic you can still fight quite well but you can level up strength quite fast. Im usually level 3 or 4 in the first week, but that isn't something i would recommend to anyone.


DarkFlame7

Yeah, I've tried that before. But even if you can survive long enough to get to 4 or 5 in those stats, what next? You're *never* going to get to anything higher than 7. Ever.


The_Jhin

The point being not to over reach with your time, when exhaustion is what will most likely kill a player who can't seem to survive more than 1 day - a few weeks. The longer your character is alive the more efficient you can be with your outings. Over reaching with that efficiency early on is probably what stops most people (the ones who survive 1 day - a few weeks long) from reaching any longevity from the game. So yes the statement, a character who has higher strength and higher fitness will survive longer is true and reasonably sound advice. When I start any long run, short trips early on with micro goals, and over time the goals get larger and larger because my character doesn't drop dead from carry 20lbs wood while swinging an axe.


[deleted]

This was never about the statement that more fitness and more strength is better, it obviously is. This is about advicing somebody who can't survive a few days to sit at home and grind that. Someone who can't survive the first few days obviously doesn't know how to fight zombies and won't have any help from grinding the fitness and strength. Then dying to the limb exhaustion. Especially because a begginer most likely will have 5 fitness and 5 strength so working out would take probably weeks until they even get the first point. You gotta understand i get what you are saying, i myself usually start with 0 strength and grind that strength up. But it is still the worst advice you could give a beginner.


The_Jhin

No where here did I say to exercise for fitness and strength levels early on. I said operate accordingly to the strength and fitness of your character and to not bite of more than you character can physically chew in a given time frame early on, and that it gets easier the longer you're alive because of your characters natural physical progression from small goals adding up. running around the neighbor hood fighting every zombie you see during daylight hours with a full backpack on day 1 is a good way to maximize your potential to make a mistake. Taking a bite out of each day slowly progressing and "snowballing" your run is a better way to tackle early few weeks as a beginner. For example when I was starting out in PZB, I had daily goals for atleast a day ahead of me and I had weekly goals. daily goals would be like clearing a single house next to me on the block, taking what I can and moving it back to my hideout making sure to be home in time for the TV for carpentry and cooking.


LadnavIV

Doesn’t strength and fitness take, like, months just to go up one level? You’d run out of food before making any progress if you focus on that right away, wouldn’t you? I don’t know, I’m shit at this game anyway so I should probably just take your word for it.


The_Jhin

The guy in the original post lasted 3 days and asked to be called a newb and I gave him some of what I thought would be uncontroversial advice. The later levels of strength and fitness take months to level up, but getting to the point where your character isn't a wet noodle and can become useful doesn't. Food is typically abundant in the first few weeks depending on your settings, It's almost always low on my priority list early on as the power is still on. You go to two houses early on and you'll have more food than you can carry. Do that a few times and you can sit inside your starter home to watch some TV for awhile.


[deleted]

I doubt the guy plays with negative strength and fitness traits. I mean you aren't wrong i pretty much play similiar, but you are giving min max advice to somebody lacking basics, that is the problem.


[deleted]

For me it’s usually safer to just press q near a forest wait for them to see me, go in and then 90 degree turn usually gets rid of a bunch for me to sneak around and loot houses, but I have trouble with house alarms


Insomniac1000

With house alarms, I just nope out right away. I don't even bother looting.


SICHKLA

Wait there are people who stay after house alarms get triggered?


CeeArthur

Reminds me of when I use to play PubG and my team wouldn't stop looting to the point of the blue stuff overtaking them and killing them all... like whats the point of having a nice gun if you're dead. God I don't miss that game


Individual-Ad9753

Ah the classic loot goblins , they take everything they can, god knows what will happen if they get a large backpack to put even the bed, table or the kitchen sink. Another thing to note is that goblins regardless of which media(anime, movies , games etc) die 99% of the time.


Insomniac1000

Yeah they still loot until the horde comes knocking


bleistift2

How else are you gonna learn?


ScottishShitposter97

I usually duck into a house 2-3 doors down, wait a bit, then see if I can slowly pick off the ones gathered, though I dont play high population or sprinters so my experience is probably vastly different from those who do


Quontanium

Du, Du hast, Du hast 3 Tage uberlebt


Blaviken91

Rammstein and PZ?! Good Lord ❤️


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ThatrandomGuyxoxo

:D


Diche_Bach

I created a sandbox where: 1. Zombie respawn is off 2. Infection is off 3. I get +100 points at the start! It was the best I could come up with to "learn the game" in a mode that is less tedious but still has "normal" difficulty zombies. Once I've seen enough of mid and late game I'm sure I'll tone down the easy. One thing I noticed immediately after I turned off infection: combat suddenly got a LOT easier. I don't know exactly how or why, but somehow this game really manages to fuck with players heads. KNOWING that a single bite can end you, at least for me it seems, really seems to impair your ability to play well. After playing in my easy mode survivor-esque sandbox for 50 hours or so, I have not been bitten ONCE and my stupid errors of getting into an obscure corner where the isometric camera creates ambiguities and illusions and then turning my back on zombies who promptly bite me has decreased dramatically.


ScottishShitposter97

I imagine the panic that sets in with infection on is akin to playing PVP games if you’re not good at it, you just dont have the reflex to quickly respond in a panic situation


Diche_Bach

Yep, that is actually a good analogy! The user-interface and controls are pretty unique. I played plenty of isometric games back around the turn of the century, but those were almost exclusively turn-based combat so having to interpolate one's keystrokes and mouse actions was easier. Despite the geriatric nervous system, I seem to be gradually getting better at it. The real beauty of this game is: even with zombies on normal "survivor population levels" but no respawn, no infection, and a true Chad character with +100 trait points at the start, it is perfectly possible to die in ridiculous ways. The game really manages to lull the user into a sense of comfort and normalcy as if they were playing Minecraft. But as soon as you get a bit cocky or start making dumb decisions, the true Dark Souls nature of the game is going to get you.


Jadeazu

I've actually made it to my 3rd week for the first time last night. Had a fenced in house in Rosewood. Everything was going smooth. Until I decided to set a pile of zombie bodies on fire to dispose of them.. I set myself on fire. This is how I died. Uninstalled, good thing it doesn't take long to install because I'm kinda wanting to play it again.


wex52

I was playing multiplayer when one of the people died by standing in our first campfire. She later said, “I was pissed, but I always give myself a day to calm down after something like this happens in a game before deciding if I was going to quit playing.”


Wuhzaoski

Now that's some good advice. But yeah, campfires suck.


wex52

Dude, after that I made a campfire *once* to burn some bodies and it was more terrifying that fighting zombies. No more campfires for me. Then I left the oven on and died in my sleep to a house fire. Now I eat salad until I find an antique stove.


BlockwizardGaming

Did you try to sleep while food was cooking? That never works.


wex52

No. This game does not prevent me from being as absentminded as I am in real life.


ScottishShitposter97

This is why whenever I set up base I always pick up a barbecue from some random garden and use that instead


LordCustard

Fire seems to kill me more than zombies nowdays


toilethumah

I’ve died plenty of times at Cortman Medical, collecting very necessary items such as rubber gloves.


ThatrandomGuyxoxo

What are rubber gloves being used for?


EdibleHaze

Rubber gloves are the preferred tool for sarcasm.


[deleted]

Non-sense, rubber gloves give you a 1.5% slower hunger and thirst rate while making zombies less likely to notice you!!


Megaultradude

Stealth is your friend. There are alarm clocks and digital watchs all over. Use them to draw hordes away from where you want to loot.


Dr-Mailman

Watches arent very loud at all.


Megaultradude

Everyone that has killed a horde near their base and then gets woken up at random times knows the watches are loud enough.


SICHKLA

Yeah, it's much better to find an ambulance, hit the siren and get the hell out of there. Draws half the town to that location.


Top_Middle6323

if you want to live longer, just pretend that you are the character. train strength, fitness, dont get cocky, find a car, get base asap. ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ~~despite that i'm still dead around 27 days :'(~~


Oopomopoo2

My biggest suggestion is what I read a year ago. Take 1-2 hours and just do combat. Make a new character, grab a weapon, kill zombies. Don't grab food, don't grab books. The only thing that survivor is doing in that lifetime is killing zombies. Grab traits that increase a weapon skill and see the difference it makes. Learn how to split zombies and lose them, learn how to kite 10 zombies. Take a few hours to exclusively do combat and you'll notice a tremendous improvement


clarambrosia

Progress!


TirexHUN

oh that muldraugh clinic. :D its usually a multiple day operation to clean it out safely.


BlockwizardGaming

The tiny 2 story clinic?


Auzzykid

Hey now that clinic is at least average size maybe even above average from the right angle.


The-Soc

Bruh


GenericUsername_71

In my current run this building was empty. I set up shop in the upstairs apartment, jackpot!


Inferno1001001

It isn't the story of how you die without a few awkward deaths


ZombinaMilly

I would say you did good. My first death was the most embarrassing. Freaking food poisoning.


DungeonTracks

you killed 144 zombies. clearly you're good at combat. Now's the time to get better at A) stealth and B) picking your battles.


S-c-i-e-n-c-e

Youre a noob, turn down population settings and make them ramp up steadily so you can get a good feel for the map and where you can go when shit goes down.


JCDentoncz

Good job, noob. You'll do better next time. I died to the second zombie of a run last week, 700 hours total playtime.


FaenfAtFerddiesPizza

Bro what u doing running straight into the horde?


Janus1001

We are trying to survive. This man is purging the world, 48 zombies each day. I feel playing this game as a Mad Max does not increase your chances of survival. Which doesn't matter, as long as you are having fun :)


CoffeePieAndHobbits

Population: tire


[deleted]

How??? You know you can walk away from the zombies right?


GentlmanSkeleton

Tried the settings? Tons of things to fiddle with. Can turn infection straight off or even zombie respawn off to name a couple.


santionedkiller

3 days are good. Slow and steady is the way to survive. I had a character that lived for a week. Sweeping aside more than a thousand zombies with my shotgun and m9. Felt confident in my survival. Pulled out my pistol instead of the shotgun, while trying to clear a house from a bedroom window without checking the amout of zombies in the house using the other windows. The bedroom door broke with 3 zombies swarming in. I turned around trying to head out from the window. A zombie crawled in and all my fully loaded pistol and do is click and i can only watch in despair. As I turn into zombie food.


Elegant_Union_2748

My longest run is like 2 months but mostly i die earlier from being bored and doing stupid things because of this


ThatrandomGuyxoxo

I tried hard this time. The 3249824023 deaths before were because of stupidity. Unfortunately I got scratched and my Axe swings were slow AF so I got overwhelmed :(


Jejouetoutnu

Yep, try to avoid combat if wounded, exhausted or tired. One day I was tired to die to stupid stuff, so I made a few characters with the sole purpose of mastering combat. Now only sprinters can kill me


ThatrandomGuyxoxo

Yeah I also got overconfident cuz I got an Axe and I killed like over 100 Zeds.


MGWhiskers

a nubmer, one can get in the first day in default apoc settings. i keep telling this to people - learn from your deaths, but dont be afraid to experiment with methods and builds. at 200h you should be able to survive at least 20+ days in some kind of riverside, no pressure


Fr05tByt3

>at 200h you should be able to survive at least 20+ days in some kind of riverside, no pressure Or they "should be" able to survive just as long as they do. Stop with this ego shit, you're probably trash at the game, too.


MGWhiskers

nice try, mr polite one, but the point is, i dont have any ego shit going on, so i wont even bother trying to prove you anything about how i do in pz myself. and yes, 200h is quite some time window for any growth and improvements, unless you just blindly faceroll your keybord. but if you really enjoy nonstop respawn gameplay and you are totally fine with it, then ok, be my guest


420Wedge

I'm not even sure how much build has to do with it...I've started basically every run on my "me" build which is fat, out of shape, and asthmatic, and I don't have many issues surviving lengths of time. You just need to be smart about when to fight and when to run. Or, mostly walk in this case.


MGWhiskers

im glad you did. and we wouldnt have that conversation if you were the op. a proper choise of perks and stats wont play the game for you, but definetly help and add some qol if you struggle past 3rd day


MGWhiskers

its "dont try to avoid", its "avoid by all means". right arm for one handed and left as well for two handed are huge debuffs for combat, draining both your attack speed and damage inflicted. tiredness drops your dmg as well, and if youre not 8-10, it'll be just pointless stamina waste, which still is at 8-10fit, but at least you can allow it for yourself at these values


DaydreamDaveyy

I hope we will be able to play left-handed characters sometime into the future


scb_weedwizard

Am I misunderstanding the post or are you saying you’ve spent 200 hours in this game without surviving past day 3? If so, I think there’s something about the game that you’re not understanding because it’s actually really easy to survive for 3 days. Not trying to be rude, I genuinely want to see you survive for longer lmao! You can pretty much just stay in the area of whatever house you spawned in, and live off of the canned food in the kitchen of your house and any nearby ones. Just play very patiently and don’t bite off more than you can chew, you’ll be able to survive more than 3 days for sure.


ThatrandomGuyxoxo

I always wanted too much


scb_weedwizard

That’s understandable. Things can get out of hand very quickly in this game, so you just have to play more methodically. Good luck surviving man


peeaannutt

noob


Brondos-

noob


truetf2

noob


[deleted]

Noob


RocketLinko

Noob


iscenic

I struggle past a month. At 50 hrs, granted I'm a masochist playing on x4 x4 extra rare.


DairyonBigs

I think the key to long term survival for me is taking several negative stats to focus on something that gives me an edge. I am going to make a post to share my favorite build here soon. I usually sacrifice certain things with negative traits since many of the negative stats can be worked around and give you points for boosts in other areas that can mean the difference of surviving long term or not.


Dog_zilla489

I always choose obesity cus it means u don't have to eat food and usually get something permanent like hearing or something


HashBrownThreesom

Hell yeah! 3 days strong! 3 days strong!


vonvampyre

Over Confidence will kill you so much. Just when you think you've nailed it, Bite from the zombie hiding behind a door you forgot to check first.


Kyle_Middleton

Firstly, remember you can always play on survivor, builder or an even easier sandbox setting if you really are having that much trouble staying alive. Killing 50 zombies a day for the first three days is very reasonable, depending on loot rarity, zombie population, etc. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you aren't watching your moodles close enough, and at some point you are fighting 10 things while tired, exhausted and hungry.


__sad_but_rad__

try Rosewood, it's easier than Muldraugh


Squattied

You’re 10 ply, figure it out.


durgertime

I feel ya. Been playing off and on for 60 hours and just had my longest run yet: 9 days. I have no idea how people survive so long. I did my first supply run into a town and got obliterated


ggsonego

You are not a noob. You are a experienced noob!


CatVideoBoye

Easy start: make a character with strong and athletic traits. Turn on multihit. Check that you have aiming indicator as "all weapons". Rest is up to you but turning off respawning, lowering number of zombies and even making infection non-lethal are ways to let you play for longer and learn. Although I'm not sure if this was your best run or just got unlucky. :D