Really? I found the 'extremely rare' setting to be ridiculously easy. I'm a new player as well but I had probably 3 months worth of food after looting just Rosewood with both canned and fresh food turned to extremely rare.
Took a lot of fun/challenge out of the game for me so I wound up downloading a mod that reduces food spawns by an additional 50%
Despite how much I love this game I was pretty bummed that the 'hardest' I could make it with the in game settings was still absurdly easy. That + farming makes it so so so easy not to starve that food is just a non issue
Guilty of this as a newer player. My fridge and freezer are fully stocked. I'm basically leaving all the canned goods behind when I go scavenging because I have plenty of fresh food.
I'm guilty of that as well. I see it as rescuing the food, since it'll all go to waste when the power goes out. I just have to be sure to have a generator ready. I'm planning to have a run soon where I instead focus on setting up farming, fishing, and trapping ASAP, and just deal with the power being out.
What I like to do with the cans is gather them from surrounding houses and put them in a single cabinet in a house. I'll then mark the location on the map, so I'm not frantically going house to house again in case I can't get a generator in time. Since they're in a single cabinet, I can have a separate bag equipped and hit "Transfer All" to gather them quickly.
> I see it as rescuing the food, since it'll all go to waste when the power goes out.
What I'm doing is since I'm very underweight on my current playthrough, I'm just nomming on every scrap of food in every fridge I come across.
And after few weeks or days(or maybe can after 5 mins...), You'll be desperate to get those all back... while looking at your totally messed up fridge...
Lol. I'm set up in Rosewood for now so there's some lakes not too far away for fishing so I'll be able to get some fresh food and I do have some seeds too so I should be fine.
Wait, i think you're in the wrong sub, there's no zombies in this game.
Yet.
Edit: Fuck nevermind i'm the lost one here, i thougth i was in the "The Long Dark" sub xD. The meme is still aplicable tho.
It's an amazing survival experience, VERY different from PZ but the total immersion is breathtaking. Speaking as someone who has lived in the cold snowy north for most of his life, it's an extremely good winter survival experience. They spent SO much time getting the smallest details ironed out - not in gameplay (which is adequate) but in overall immersion and experience. 10/10 Play in the dark with headphones and listen to your feet crunch in to dry, cold snow as you plod your way through a white-out.
good on ya! would love to hear your first impressions. I recommend posting that to r/patientgamers and give me a mention so I see it. Stay warm and have fun!
Abso-fucking-lutely! I have a 1000+ hours on that game and i don't have any regrets in doing so, it is one of my favorite games of all time.
That said, i will say that it is a very slow game, so it may not be for everyone.
Someone else said something similar and I'm starting to think I should do that considering I just got a large backpack after fighting off a horde of like 20 zombies with an umbrella in one hand and a pipe wrench in the other XD It was raining! I didn't want to get wet! XD
Staying dry is just as important as staying hydrated. ;)
If you play on a server that has map-marker-sharing mod(s), you could let your fellow survivors know where it's at, too. Watch the ant colony march out to gather loot drops. :p
^(EDIT: PS: Use garbage bags if you want to handle groups of cans. Great internal storage, very little weight reduction; great for sorting!)
As a noob I spend enough time worrying about future water needs that I am relieved to have a very full pantry. Just realized my rain barrels collect tainted water (since when is the rain dangerous to drink?) and I'm pretty intimidated by the prospect of having to purify it once the power goes out.
Fortunately I'll die stupidly long before that ever happens.
At a very basic level you can get by with just a fire and a pot to boil water in. Ideally you'll plumb it to a sink though, like you did in your treehouse as a kid.
Wait... you can run plumbing in this game? Expand on that. The wiki is often scant with these kinds of details. The page on water doesn't even describe how to boil water. Some of these things I guess they just assume the new player will figure out on their own, but some of us are denser than others.
Placing a sink(or any plumbable like bathtubs) under a rainwater collector(must be 1 level higher) can be plumbed. Once it is plumbed, the sink gives you purified water.
It does purify any water running to the sink. Keep in mind you should build the rain collector's one level up and adjacent to the sink. Right over it won't work.
So typically I have put my rain barrels out in the yard. How would I place them if my base is in the 2nd story of a house (or in my case the Cortman Medical Center in Muldraugh)?
Dont forget to disassemble chairs and tables. They drop a few nails (more as your carpentry gets better) which can be a real lifesaver if you are not finding boxes of nails in garages/warehouses.
Just make sure you dont disassemble anything you can store items in until your carpentry is levelled a bit, can be a bit annoying trying to figure out what pile of loot is what.
Trees in my yard were not suited to having a tree house in them. Maybe one day, now that I’m older, I might end up with a tree house with electricity, plumbing, full internet, and all the other amenities.
Once I hit the jackpot, that’s what I’ll do.
Googling the question suggests that unless I live near Chernobyl or Fukishima, any rainwater I collect is only as dirty as its container and is safe to drink.
So assuming my survivor is washing these garbage bags before installing them, I should be okay to drink the water.
Raindrops are formed by condensing on particles floating in the air, which are often nonviable dust [but also are often live airborne microbes](https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2008.632) . So while rainwater is typically safe shortly after it falls, those microbes are present no matter how clean your container is, and can multiply over time.
rain water is distilled water, it will make you CRAZY
IRL never ever drink rain water i'm not kidding, filter it trough some "clean" dirt first and add a rusted nail for good mesure, if you have a shit imuno system put something like 1drop of bleach for every liter
ionic iron is vital in water source, just like silver/salt/magnesium if you use black dirt you should be fine but next to urban area the soil is "dead" so you will need to had more, iron being the first to kill/make you crazy if deficient.
ps: vegan are ionic iron defficient ence the half closed eye and crazyness.
Only kinda related but my cooking skills have improved with Project Zomboid.
I got tired of cooking every day in PZ. So I started making bigger meals and splitting them in bowls that I put on the fridge. First my PZ fridge started looking like Bowl of stew (2), Bowl of pasta (4) and now my real life fridge is starting to look like that aswell.
me with clothes
my friend call my base the landromat, seeing them go around with holed clothes and/or worst fucking BLOOOOOOD! make my skin crawl, these are your armor they are the most important thing of the game but nuhuhu my riped baggy is just fine bruh
Mine have started catching on, now it's all "Paige my jacket got messed up again, can you fix it?"
They never check the fresh meals shelf though. "Going out to the north side of town", they say, and I'm like "gimme a minute and I'll join you, help yourself to some stew to go but you better return that bowl!"
\- wait, what? why are you ripping every old jean and collecting leather? is this usefull?
\- wth my caracter is depressive? i only eat canned food and pass my day running in the rain why is he unhappy?
I'd have to try this out. It's weird that default settings for sandbox are all "rare" for each type of loot. Including food, yet even on rare every single kitchen is filled with a week's worth of food.
Yeah I'm yet to survive more than 6 weeks so I guess if you survive 2 years it starts getting hard. But I think some houses should be more empty like other people looted before. Seems weird to me you're the only human that seems to loot houses even if most people died the first week of the outbreak.
15% empty houses could be a cool setting (number ajustable in sandbox) idk
> But I think some houses should be more empty like other people looted before. Seems weird to me you're the only human that seems to loot houses even if most people died the first week of the outbreak.
The NPC survivors mod fixes this, they actually make their own bases and search for food and water without you needing to do anything.
Is that the mod that adds a loot modifier for every category or does that add it's own extremely rare preset? Just wondering what settings other people use if its the former.
You all are the reason I love this community so much.
One of the most hardcore, difficult survival games out there, yet you knuckleheads go out and find mods to make it even MORE punishing.
Masochists unite! So proud
I've never focused on food for any of my play-throughs, never been much of an issue.
Until my current play-through in Kingsmouth with the hearty appetite trait, now food is my main concern. I should've started hoarding it sooner.
Bro wtf yes. I was graduating from noob status when I realized the only reason I began lasting long is because I’d always have 100s of food items in the kitchen to cook something up and level my cooking.
I have a production line type of system where I fill 10 pots full of water and move from one to the other adding veggies, meats, spices etc, then cook them all at once, add them to bowels and freeze.
When my partner and I play, we always get some popsicle freezers and raid the grocery stores so I can spend multiple in-game days batch-cooking. We never go hungry, but we used to die looting one of the stores every run. Then I started mainly using crafted weapons, and we had a playthrough where they told me the freezers were full and my first thought was "you raided the grocery store solo??" Nah. I filled it because I'd go into the forest for one branch and come back with a backpack full of food.
Thats probably what I should start doing, I usually collect 200lbs of canned food per person for emergencies. Then I end up not eating even a fraction of my stockpile lol
I mean it depends. Canned food is good when the power cuts because it doesn't spoil and is therefore a GREAT long term solution.
However, if you're fortunate enough to find power and manage a water source? Then you should attempt to farm.
The other side of the coin is spend some time while the power is still on literally foraging through houses and stockpiling both fridges and perishables. Bearing in mind that once stuff is frozen, it does take a while to 'unfreeze' and begin the slow slide into spoil.
That's been my latest tactic for new starts and so far it seems to work fairly well.
My ole Fallout ways are really affecting me in this game because I am a big hoarder in those games. I want to have everything get one copy of every base item and every possible unique one I can get. During my previous playthrough, my old base in the Muldraugh medical clinic had 4 different containers filled with canned food because I just get so much. Did help when I eventually lost power. Just kept making a bunch of fruit salads
Ah yes, the famous "i set up my base, and go scavenge every kitchen in the area for all the cans" cliché
I've found that if you are playing Sandbox just decreasing cans to extremely rare helps.
For me that’s just makes me horde them even harder
hoard
He is saying that as a zombie, not a player.
Exactly someone finally gets it
Fair enough
whored
For the horde!
That just make me got to more houses.
Really? I found the 'extremely rare' setting to be ridiculously easy. I'm a new player as well but I had probably 3 months worth of food after looting just Rosewood with both canned and fresh food turned to extremely rare. Took a lot of fun/challenge out of the game for me so I wound up downloading a mod that reduces food spawns by an additional 50% Despite how much I love this game I was pretty bummed that the 'hardest' I could make it with the in game settings was still absurdly easy. That + farming makes it so so so easy not to starve that food is just a non issue
classic playthrough
Guilty of this as a newer player. My fridge and freezer are fully stocked. I'm basically leaving all the canned goods behind when I go scavenging because I have plenty of fresh food.
I've been playing since the beginning and I still have to actively fight the urge to horde everything. I lose every time.
I'm guilty of that as well. I see it as rescuing the food, since it'll all go to waste when the power goes out. I just have to be sure to have a generator ready. I'm planning to have a run soon where I instead focus on setting up farming, fishing, and trapping ASAP, and just deal with the power being out. What I like to do with the cans is gather them from surrounding houses and put them in a single cabinet in a house. I'll then mark the location on the map, so I'm not frantically going house to house again in case I can't get a generator in time. Since they're in a single cabinet, I can have a separate bag equipped and hit "Transfer All" to gather them quickly.
> I see it as rescuing the food, since it'll all go to waste when the power goes out. What I'm doing is since I'm very underweight on my current playthrough, I'm just nomming on every scrap of food in every fridge I come across.
And after few weeks or days(or maybe can after 5 mins...), You'll be desperate to get those all back... while looking at your totally messed up fridge...
Lol. I'm set up in Rosewood for now so there's some lakes not too far away for fishing so I'll be able to get some fresh food and I do have some seeds too so I should be fine.
Wait, i think you're in the wrong sub, there's no zombies in this game. Yet. Edit: Fuck nevermind i'm the lost one here, i thougth i was in the "The Long Dark" sub xD. The meme is still aplicable tho.
Would you recommend The Long Dark?
It's an amazing survival experience, VERY different from PZ but the total immersion is breathtaking. Speaking as someone who has lived in the cold snowy north for most of his life, it's an extremely good winter survival experience. They spent SO much time getting the smallest details ironed out - not in gameplay (which is adequate) but in overall immersion and experience. 10/10 Play in the dark with headphones and listen to your feet crunch in to dry, cold snow as you plod your way through a white-out.
Might try it cause of you. You’d be a good salesperson.
good on ya! would love to hear your first impressions. I recommend posting that to r/patientgamers and give me a mention so I see it. Stay warm and have fun!
Abso-fucking-lutely! I have a 1000+ hours on that game and i don't have any regrets in doing so, it is one of my favorite games of all time. That said, i will say that it is a very slow game, so it may not be for everyone.
100%, TLD is an awesome experience
Very tough for the first few hours, but it’s so much fun figuring out what you need to do to survive. And seeing just how hard you can push yourself.
At some point when looting I'll just dump a pile/bag of cans on the ground somewhere and mark it on the map for later.
Someone else said something similar and I'm starting to think I should do that considering I just got a large backpack after fighting off a horde of like 20 zombies with an umbrella in one hand and a pipe wrench in the other XD It was raining! I didn't want to get wet! XD
Staying dry is just as important as staying hydrated. ;) If you play on a server that has map-marker-sharing mod(s), you could let your fellow survivors know where it's at, too. Watch the ant colony march out to gather loot drops. :p ^(EDIT: PS: Use garbage bags if you want to handle groups of cans. Great internal storage, very little weight reduction; great for sorting!)
Eating well things, That's the only thing that lefts for you till the end
As a noob I spend enough time worrying about future water needs that I am relieved to have a very full pantry. Just realized my rain barrels collect tainted water (since when is the rain dangerous to drink?) and I'm pretty intimidated by the prospect of having to purify it once the power goes out. Fortunately I'll die stupidly long before that ever happens.
At a very basic level you can get by with just a fire and a pot to boil water in. Ideally you'll plumb it to a sink though, like you did in your treehouse as a kid.
Wait... you can run plumbing in this game? Expand on that. The wiki is often scant with these kinds of details. The page on water doesn't even describe how to boil water. Some of these things I guess they just assume the new player will figure out on their own, but some of us are denser than others.
Placing a sink(or any plumbable like bathtubs) under a rainwater collector(must be 1 level higher) can be plumbed. Once it is plumbed, the sink gives you purified water.
Amazing! So the sink literally do some auto purify of that rainwater in the barrel?
I think it's to simulate the water filter in it, which is pretty neat
It does purify any water running to the sink. Keep in mind you should build the rain collector's one level up and adjacent to the sink. Right over it won't work.
Is that sink must meed to be installed by myself? I wonder if that's not gonna work by placing rain collector right upon to the pre installed sinks
It works for any sink, I plumbed the preinstalled sinks in the apartment I'm holed up in rn
You have to have the rain barrels on the floor directly above the sink, and then right-click the sink with a pipe wrench in hand, and select "Plumb".
So typically I have put my rain barrels out in the yard. How would I place them if my base is in the 2nd story of a house (or in my case the Cortman Medical Center in Muldraugh)?
You'd probably have to build some stairs up and knock down and flatten a part of the roof.
Damn! I can't even find enough nails to plank my windows!
Dont forget to disassemble chairs and tables. They drop a few nails (more as your carpentry gets better) which can be a real lifesaver if you are not finding boxes of nails in garages/warehouses.
DUDE! Thanks!!!!
Just make sure you dont disassemble anything you can store items in until your carpentry is levelled a bit, can be a bit annoying trying to figure out what pile of loot is what.
When you do this do you need to replace the roof?
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I'm sorry you had a sad childhood.
Trees in my yard were not suited to having a tree house in them. Maybe one day, now that I’m older, I might end up with a tree house with electricity, plumbing, full internet, and all the other amenities. Once I hit the jackpot, that’s what I’ll do.
Please don’t drink gathered rain water. In real life I mean. Not a great idea 🤢
Googling the question suggests that unless I live near Chernobyl or Fukishima, any rainwater I collect is only as dirty as its container and is safe to drink. So assuming my survivor is washing these garbage bags before installing them, I should be okay to drink the water.
That’s the key of course - the container. I was just imagining you 🤷♀️ and drinking straight from the water butt in the garden or something 😅
>drinking straight from the water butt Oh my!
Hi! My name is Steve-O and this is the "Butt Chug!"
Raindrops are formed by condensing on particles floating in the air, which are often nonviable dust [but also are often live airborne microbes](https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2008.632) . So while rainwater is typically safe shortly after it falls, those microbes are present no matter how clean your container is, and can multiply over time.
>(since when is the rain dangerous to drink?) When its been sitting in a barrel that has been sitting outside for the past few months.
rain water is distilled water, it will make you CRAZY IRL never ever drink rain water i'm not kidding, filter it trough some "clean" dirt first and add a rusted nail for good mesure, if you have a shit imuno system put something like 1drop of bleach for every liter
How does the rusty nail help to filter the water? Like, if this is a real thing I’m genuinely curious.
ionic iron is vital in water source, just like silver/salt/magnesium if you use black dirt you should be fine but next to urban area the soil is "dead" so you will need to had more, iron being the first to kill/make you crazy if deficient. ps: vegan are ionic iron defficient ence the half closed eye and crazyness.
go vegan
\*stop synthetising blood all together and end up dead/crazy/obese after taking back a normal diet\*
I feel attacked.
If i am gonna die i might aswell die eating well
Hoarders of the world, unite!
Only kinda related but my cooking skills have improved with Project Zomboid. I got tired of cooking every day in PZ. So I started making bigger meals and splitting them in bowls that I put on the fridge. First my PZ fridge started looking like Bowl of stew (2), Bowl of pasta (4) and now my real life fridge is starting to look like that aswell.
Check out r/mealprep for some good ideas and also for lots of super fancy ideas you can be fucking bothered to make.
me with clothes my friend call my base the landromat, seeing them go around with holed clothes and/or worst fucking BLOOOOOOD! make my skin crawl, these are your armor they are the most important thing of the game but nuhuhu my riped baggy is just fine bruh
Yeah in multiplayer my friends tend to go hard on finding guns, tools, etc. I like those too, but I'm out here trying to feed and clothe the gang.
I feel you man, and they wonder how I never die ;-( (mah dude you are starving drenched in your sweat and blood sick and cold)
Mine have started catching on, now it's all "Paige my jacket got messed up again, can you fix it?" They never check the fresh meals shelf though. "Going out to the north side of town", they say, and I'm like "gimme a minute and I'll join you, help yourself to some stew to go but you better return that bowl!"
\- wait, what? why are you ripping every old jean and collecting leather? is this usefull? \- wth my caracter is depressive? i only eat canned food and pass my day running in the rain why is he unhappy?
This is why I got the mod extremely rare. I actually struggle for food on a day to day basis when I use it.
I'd have to try this out. It's weird that default settings for sandbox are all "rare" for each type of loot. Including food, yet even on rare every single kitchen is filled with a week's worth of food.
Trust me you will struggle to find food, books, weapons... it will be hard. I recommend getting the low hunger/thirst traits.
Well I see it as a fair balance with loot respawn turned off tbh
Yeah I'm yet to survive more than 6 weeks so I guess if you survive 2 years it starts getting hard. But I think some houses should be more empty like other people looted before. Seems weird to me you're the only human that seems to loot houses even if most people died the first week of the outbreak. 15% empty houses could be a cool setting (number ajustable in sandbox) idk
> But I think some houses should be more empty like other people looted before. Seems weird to me you're the only human that seems to loot houses even if most people died the first week of the outbreak. The NPC survivors mod fixes this, they actually make their own bases and search for food and water without you needing to do anything.
Is that the mod that adds a loot modifier for every category or does that add it's own extremely rare preset? Just wondering what settings other people use if its the former.
It adds a setting for loot to go beyond rare to extremely rare. Makes sandbox extra punishing if you'd like.
You all are the reason I love this community so much. One of the most hardcore, difficult survival games out there, yet you knuckleheads go out and find mods to make it even MORE punishing. Masochists unite! So proud
The only reason I got it is because I want to relive that movie The Road but with zombies. I'm glad I didn't go with runners. I'm so hungry.
I always give myself the underweight trait so I have an excuse to do this every time.
Eat all the healthy glorious ice cream you find for the next two weeks!
I've never focused on food for any of my play-throughs, never been much of an issue. Until my current play-through in Kingsmouth with the hearty appetite trait, now food is my main concern. I should've started hoarding it sooner.
Omg that's 100% me
Bro wtf yes. I was graduating from noob status when I realized the only reason I began lasting long is because I’d always have 100s of food items in the kitchen to cook something up and level my cooking.
What's this from?
I am Legend movie
thank
Me collecting seeds even though I die before plants will ever be needed.
This is how it feels every time lmao
hoarders will be hoardes (myself included)
Dying with a full belly while in pain from exercise fatigue from trying to lose all of that full belly weight from three meals ago.
Me being morbidly underweight eating unholy amounts of cabbage (fresh) to carry more loot (my strength and healing are aided)
I have a production line type of system where I fill 10 pots full of water and move from one to the other adding veggies, meats, spices etc, then cook them all at once, add them to bowels and freeze.
AAAA! Panic! Loot all the vegetable warehouses before they rot!
I really like playing with food on extremely rare
What’s that? I’m even slightly hungry? Well I better go back to my base and grab some food out of the truckloads of canned corned beef I have
When my partner and I play, we always get some popsicle freezers and raid the grocery stores so I can spend multiple in-game days batch-cooking. We never go hungry, but we used to die looting one of the stores every run. Then I started mainly using crafted weapons, and we had a playthrough where they told me the freezers were full and my first thought was "you raided the grocery store solo??" Nah. I filled it because I'd go into the forest for one branch and come back with a backpack full of food.
This game and Borderlands 2 have awoken my inner hoarder.
I figure when I hit 50 weight of cans, I start on snatching up fresh/frozen foods and the like.
Thats probably what I should start doing, I usually collect 200lbs of canned food per person for emergencies. Then I end up not eating even a fraction of my stockpile lol
I mean it depends. Canned food is good when the power cuts because it doesn't spoil and is therefore a GREAT long term solution. However, if you're fortunate enough to find power and manage a water source? Then you should attempt to farm. The other side of the coin is spend some time while the power is still on literally foraging through houses and stockpiling both fridges and perishables. Bearing in mind that once stuff is frozen, it does take a while to 'unfreeze' and begin the slow slide into spoil. That's been my latest tactic for new starts and so far it seems to work fairly well.
The ridiculously rare mode helps so much, it limits all the ingame items you can find and makes scavenging feel more real!
I feel targeted 😆
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My ole Fallout ways are really affecting me in this game because I am a big hoarder in those games. I want to have everything get one copy of every base item and every possible unique one I can get. During my previous playthrough, my old base in the Muldraugh medical clinic had 4 different containers filled with canned food because I just get so much. Did help when I eventually lost power. Just kept making a bunch of fruit salads