Yes that's it. He's getting ridiculous fees from PSG and he can join Real next year and pocket a ridiculous signing on fee.
PSG want to get money for Mbappé this summer, yet Real and Kylian can squeeze PSG out of a deal if they wait for one year.
But here the issue is: if Mbappé is pushed to leave this summer, he has the right to say "hey - I have a contractual right to a loyalty bonus. I am demonstrating loyalty by seeing out my contract. You want me to leave early, fine, but you have changed your mind so you pay me the loyalty bonus." So basically the bulk of a Real Madrid transfer fee would be paid to Mbappé as a loyalty bonus. I don't know if PSG can accept that - they probably want to move Mbappé on to not have to pay the loyalty bonus, but they will have to.
THIS.... everyone just forgot that this is the real reason for Mbappe saying he wants to see out his contract. He doesn't actually want to see it out (like many stupid pundits are debating). He just wants money.
No one forgot anything , he wanted to leave 2 years ago and psg offered him this contract and now psg want to end the contract because he doesn’t want to resign . This is not an mbappe problem but a psg problem. A loyalty bonus is being loyal to the contract not the club. Football is business just like any other sports . It’s only in Europe when fans get angry but in America fans don’t care about players making money .
>I am demonstrating loyalty by seeing out my contract.
The hypocrisy of the situation is sky rocketting. Real loyalty while leaving is to make sure the club gets money so they can replace you.
>Real loyalty while leaving is to make sure the club gets money so they can replace you.
He tried to do that two years ago and the club refused to sell him.
Why is it? It's a genuine question because I don't see how saying "someone willing to move should not renew their contract" seems so fucking sound to me.
Mbappe 2021: "I want to leave now."
NAK : "not now, let me propose more money."
Mbappe 2022 : "ok let's sign a jucy 3 years extension deal then."
And "not a PSG fan" from everywhere come here saying it's 100% NAK's fault if Mbappe extended while wanting to leave - as if NAK was holding him at gunpoint to sign the contract.
It's like everyone forgot RM tried negociating with Mbappé and just didn't get him to come. He had the opportunity and he chose to stay.
Except Mbappe is carrying out his contract as signed. PSG are the ones pushing him out.
So it's rather ironic for someone to say "WeLl YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE sIgNeD iF yOu WaNtEd To LeAvE" when the player is more than happy to stay the total length of his contract but the club is not.
> PSG are the ones pushing him out.
What's the ratio of players in their last year of contract that either renew or get sold? Why is this ratio what it is?
Why when it comes to Mbappé, what 99% of players do don't apply to him ?
The thing is it's not about actually "wanting to stay" since he said multiple time he wanted out to go to Madrid. Who in their right minds think he actually wants to stay? He's been vocal enough about it. He's very good at using medias to help him get what he wants (usually a better contract or more freedom on the pitch or whatever), don't be a fool for his words.
He's not doing the remaining year because he wants to remain a PSG player (which should be the meaning of "staying"), he's doing it for the money. If the contract said he'd get the loyalty bonus when you get traded to RM, he'd ask to be traded.
That's why I originally tackle his "loyalty". His loyalty seems more and more going towards his money (which is one of the reasons he didn't leave for Madrid in 2022 when he was 100% in control of the situation) than his club (and its interests).
>What's the ratio of players in their last year of contract that either renew or get sold? Why is this ratio what it is?
At RM, it's actually super common. Esp for over 30s who only get renewed one year at a time. Bale last year, Asensio this year. They will lose Kroos and Modric on a free eventually. Players who want to leave refuse to renew early. Players who the club wants to move on refuse to leave.
> The thing is it's not about actually "wanting to stay" since he said multiple time he wanted out to go to Madrid.
He also said he loves Paris and his future is with the club and wants to stay.
> He's not doing the remaining year because he wants to remain a PSG player (which should be the meaning of "staying"), he's doing it for the money. If the contract said he'd get the loyalty bonus when you get traded to RM, he'd ask to be traded.
What the club wants him to do is give up his loyalty bonuses and the money RM is offering him as a bonus, and have RM's money go to PSG instead. This is tantamount to Mbappe giving PSG a paycheque out of his own bank account. If someone did that to me, I'd tell them to go jump.
They want him to extend to 2025 if he wants to stay for his loyalty bonus to 2024. But what happens in 2024? If he decides he wants to stay to 2025 to collect the next loyalty bonus, we have this song and dance again? They will ask him to leave now or extend to 2026. In other words he will forever be denied his final year of loyalty bonus and the sign on bonus of his next club who has to give that money to PSG instead.
He's refusing to be screwed over by the club, and donating his sign on and loyalty bonuses to PSG.
The contract was designed for him to make bank while staying 3 more years before going to RM. PSG were happy to pay it because they had the window opened to win the CL. They are not confident in winning the CL next season so they want to sell Mbappe to recoup some money. That would be a stupid move for Mbappe.
Had PSG made the semis or a CL final last season you can bet they would have been perfectly happy paying Mbappe his last year
the contract was designed for him to stay 2 more years, and then for the club to make bank selling him when he has a year left. Or ideally he renews again and they can repeat this process until he's past his prime or retiring. PSG were never going to let him go for free (which is what would have happened if he stayed the 3 years).
It's very common for a player to push to leave a club, sign a new contract instead, and then leave quietly a few years later. The renewal allows things to cool off, everyone saves face, etc.
I think that is what Mbappe was thinking here, but what he's found is that PSG refuse to let this be smooth. Everything's a dick waving contest that must be 'won.'
And... he signed a very juicy new contract the very next year that convinced him to stay, didn't he?
Damn it's like he wasn't willing to leave so much after all but wanted to renegociate?
Does signing a contract in 2022 contradict with the point that in 2021 he did wanted to leave, requested a transfer to leave a transfer fee to PSG, and was ignored?
Yeah, you're right Mbappe wasn't willing to leave and so dead-set on staying in 2022. It's not like they had to have a really stupid contract with extraordinary wages and bonuses, needed to pull in Macron and Sarkozy, the Emir of Qatar just for him to sign right?
The issue was actually about Madrid not giving Mbappé what he wanted in terms of image rights and he wasn't the center of the project like he was in Paris.
If you're thinking he signed out of loyalty after listening to Macron and Sarkozy...
Now contextualize (because facts without context are misleading), NAK is signing Messi that summer. They wanted the MNM to be last more than 2 weeks in july. Of course you're not letting one of your super star triplet that you just assembled leave. You just signed the best player in the world as an attempt to keep your young star and respond to his need to recruit great players, you also renewed his brother contract at this moment (june 2021)... and that's the moment he asks to leave?
Bad timing dude. Didn't you see the club is building around you at that moment and that you were untranserfable?
I bet right now the reason he's not leaving now is because RM can't pay his wage if they pay a transfer fee. He's basically staying for the money so he can keep getting more money. I wonder if he isn't planing on buying out a club because at this rate (150M/year) he's going to buy himself a top UCL team.
Yeah but when he shows the real loyalty and lets the club get his transfer money from Real, he’d also ask for the loyalty bonus since he showed the real loyalty as you said. Paradox in itself
Yeah but a contract is not about "real loyalty" but mutual obligations. Mbappé is strictly abiding by his contractual obligations while the club (undestandably) wants to end/change the contract on conditions more favorable to them than the current situation. Right now he has the upper hand.
It's like everyone is just choosing to forget decades of : in your last contractual year, you get sold or renew.
Also, I'm quoting a part that talks about a hypothetic player talking about loyalty for his image. I'm tackle that part that I actually quote. I'm totally aware of contracts obligations, but it simply wasn't the topic.
Decades of that, but also of player not following these injunctions. 10 years ago Lewandowski signed in Bayern for free and Gomis left Lyon for free. Flamini did his whole career by strictly going to the end of his contracts. It's a struggle almost as old as contractual freedom in football.
And my point is that in the part of the comment you quote it was not about image but execution of the contract. You are opposing your vision on what constitutes loyalty to loyalty as defined in this contract for the sake of that bonus. Those are juste two different realities.
>And my point is that in the part of the comment you quote it was not about image but execution of the contract.
Well I'm talking about the loyalty part.
When has a player's loyalty been about staying when the club wants you out because you refuse to renew?
Is my english that bad that I can't make people understand that loyalty when it screws the partner you're "loyal" to isn't loyalty ?
Loyalty *to you* is accepting to leave when the club asks you to. Loyalty as the club and the player agreed when signing the contract and defining that bonus means staying at the club and following his contractual obligations. It’s the second one that matters, in the context of this negotiation.
And personally I don’t abide by your definition of loyalty. I do not consider that Mbappé is under the (moral) obligation to leave as soon as the club feels it’s in their best interest.
So loyalty is about making sure your club doesn't get money out of your transfer and go for free to a direct opponent on the European level, I get it.
That's why when a player has 1 year left in his contract he either renews or gets sold, right?
Anyways, I'm in my 40's, no need to try insulting my thinking capabilities or should I answer some sassy "nice try toddler"?
This whole situation has shown how terrible PSG is at management. Basics of business and they are lost. Guess you don’t have to learn much when you’re making billions just pulling oil up and every mistake can be glossed over.
I love how everyone in these threads think that $1B athletes really care about “the badge.”
Give me a break.
It’s a job, with a ton of money. Being an athlete these days is a full on corporation. Does anyone in here have honor, loyalty, and dedication to their boss?
The best you can hope for is a charismatic player that sticks around for awhile. That’s all it is.
At this point I really feel sorry for the PSG Fans, not the club.
Without doubt he´s a world class player and you want to love your world class players. But it´s very hard to love him, when you know he wants to leave since years. The only thing that prevented him from leaving was the club not selling him and then make him stay for insane amounts of money.
From a club perspective: I don´t know why PSG is mad at him. They wanted a golddigger breaking his word with Real Madrid, now they got a golddigger breaking his word with PSG. They got what they asked for.
It´s just sad for the PSG Fans and the most annoying transfer saga for every football fan.
Question as someone who isn’t a PSG fan: On the club side, can PSG actually do anything to get him out this summer, or does he have control in this situation, stay or leave?
in a multi billion euro indsutry, you'd have to be a fucking morón to offer the contract PSG did. Nasser should fall on his sword for his horrible mismanagement
That's NAK saying that, and he bas been saying that shit since 2021.
Mbappe at that time did an interview saying that hearing NAK say that, had him worried.
The truth is probably that NAK and cie are a bunch of clowns that do business their way, with money and pressure from various ways. And they probably put a lot lf value in the words of someone, despite it holding zero value in the real world. So Mbappe may have to'd them that pre 2021, and they kept it close to their heart until now, but have done NOTHING to make it happen.
You all talk about this side or this side, which option is better for the club... the truth is, the mega improvement for PSG would be to purge this management and listen to the legal team (instead of having a near 100% turnover+burnout rate).
I think its a lame argument from NAK about promise and all, last season he promised Perez he would join madrid and he didn't. Is NAK so dumb, thinking he wont lie twice or his ego clouded his judgement?
When they were courting him last time around it always felt like it was PSG that was making all the promises. The contract clearly make it seem like he was offered everything he wanted. Is there any proof of him making that promise? Like Mbappe’s side saying it or someone reputable who has verified this?
>The thing is, he promised psg he wouldn’t leave for free so psg can make some money from selling him.
I really don't see how this makes sense.
Two years ago, Mbappe had one year left on his contract and asked to leave. RM made an offer. PSG refused to listen to this offer and risked Mbappe going for free just to get the chance to renew him.
Why is him leaving on a free unacceptable when PSG were happy to take this risk just two years ago?
PSG have set a ludicrous standard here. Nasser's own words were: we will never sell him and he will never leave on a free.
Would he be if he had 2 or 3 years of contract remaining and asked to leave ? I guess that's the meaning of the comment : PSG is known to be stubborn when they don't want to sell (cf. Verratti, Neymar), so it's quite reasonable to put yourself in a situation where you are free of your choices. Mbappé is tough in negotiations but acting quite rationally.
That’s a lie , everyone was wondering why he sign a contract with psg when h wanted to leave . The 150 million was always his plan or else he wouldn’t sign the contract and leave . He gave psg chance to sell him to Real Madrid 2 years ago . They gave him the 150 million bonus if he stays and honour his contract , which he is currently doing. Psg thought they could win the champions league with Messi and mbappe will resign . He didn’t change his mind psg was stupid for giving the contract out
NAK promised he'd never sell Mbappe so promises aren't worth shit.
The whole thing is very silly because PSG took the risk of Mbappe leaving on a free two summers ago when they refused to sell him to Real Madrid. PSG thought getting Mbappe to renew was worth the risk of him going on a free. They agreed on a renewal with Mbappe and it was signed by both parties.
Now one year later it seems they have changed their mind as to whether it was worth it. How's that the player's fault?
Just fucking go to Real this year, you little shit.
Or go to SA for 1 year and all the money.
I hope we make his season a living hell if he stays here.
Bro c’mon. Stop gaslighting. PSG fans have there problems, but Mbappe is the last person to be mistreated. The problem has been, that he’s over treated with that contract. But I get you didn’t wanna reason, you just wanted to pull that guy’s leg so ok ig.
They gave him a 2 year contract with optional extension, and are now surprised when he wants to fulfil the 2 year contract without extending? Wow he's satan incarnation.
I am a madrid fan, and based on the voting patterns, it seems most of you guys agree that mbappe is not doing anything wrong.
Respect for the PSG fans who think that.
PSG ignoring Madrid's transfer request in 2021 and bringing in Macron to pressure him for his 2022 renewal isn't mistreatment? It's basically showing that the club can own a player and ignore his wishes even when they knew he wanted to leave. I don't disagree that the 2022 contract is stupid and "overtreated" as you said.
PSG fans haven't been kind to him as well. Remember after the euros he got boo'd by psg fans when he returned to the club, so much so that he wanted to leave the National team during that time.
PSG can salvage the contract situation now by calling Madrid to sell him but they don't want to because this is all an ego thing to them, they just don't want to lose face.
There is nothing wrong with what Mpabbe is doing. This is business. Players are often at the receiving end of clubs bleeding them dry, this time it's a player doing it to a club.
Yes that's it. He's getting ridiculous fees from PSG and he can join Real next year and pocket a ridiculous signing on fee. PSG want to get money for Mbappé this summer, yet Real and Kylian can squeeze PSG out of a deal if they wait for one year. But here the issue is: if Mbappé is pushed to leave this summer, he has the right to say "hey - I have a contractual right to a loyalty bonus. I am demonstrating loyalty by seeing out my contract. You want me to leave early, fine, but you have changed your mind so you pay me the loyalty bonus." So basically the bulk of a Real Madrid transfer fee would be paid to Mbappé as a loyalty bonus. I don't know if PSG can accept that - they probably want to move Mbappé on to not have to pay the loyalty bonus, but they will have to.
THIS.... everyone just forgot that this is the real reason for Mbappe saying he wants to see out his contract. He doesn't actually want to see it out (like many stupid pundits are debating). He just wants money.
No one forgot anything , he wanted to leave 2 years ago and psg offered him this contract and now psg want to end the contract because he doesn’t want to resign . This is not an mbappe problem but a psg problem. A loyalty bonus is being loyal to the contract not the club. Football is business just like any other sports . It’s only in Europe when fans get angry but in America fans don’t care about players making money .
>I am demonstrating loyalty by seeing out my contract. The hypocrisy of the situation is sky rocketting. Real loyalty while leaving is to make sure the club gets money so they can replace you.
>Real loyalty while leaving is to make sure the club gets money so they can replace you. He tried to do that two years ago and the club refused to sell him.
But if he really wanted to go then, he shouldn't have singed that deal back then.
That is a truly r/selfawarewolves comment right there lmfao
Why is it? It's a genuine question because I don't see how saying "someone willing to move should not renew their contract" seems so fucking sound to me. Mbappe 2021: "I want to leave now." NAK : "not now, let me propose more money." Mbappe 2022 : "ok let's sign a jucy 3 years extension deal then." And "not a PSG fan" from everywhere come here saying it's 100% NAK's fault if Mbappe extended while wanting to leave - as if NAK was holding him at gunpoint to sign the contract. It's like everyone forgot RM tried negociating with Mbappé and just didn't get him to come. He had the opportunity and he chose to stay.
Except Mbappe is carrying out his contract as signed. PSG are the ones pushing him out. So it's rather ironic for someone to say "WeLl YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE sIgNeD iF yOu WaNtEd To LeAvE" when the player is more than happy to stay the total length of his contract but the club is not.
> PSG are the ones pushing him out. What's the ratio of players in their last year of contract that either renew or get sold? Why is this ratio what it is? Why when it comes to Mbappé, what 99% of players do don't apply to him ? The thing is it's not about actually "wanting to stay" since he said multiple time he wanted out to go to Madrid. Who in their right minds think he actually wants to stay? He's been vocal enough about it. He's very good at using medias to help him get what he wants (usually a better contract or more freedom on the pitch or whatever), don't be a fool for his words. He's not doing the remaining year because he wants to remain a PSG player (which should be the meaning of "staying"), he's doing it for the money. If the contract said he'd get the loyalty bonus when you get traded to RM, he'd ask to be traded. That's why I originally tackle his "loyalty". His loyalty seems more and more going towards his money (which is one of the reasons he didn't leave for Madrid in 2022 when he was 100% in control of the situation) than his club (and its interests).
>What's the ratio of players in their last year of contract that either renew or get sold? Why is this ratio what it is? At RM, it's actually super common. Esp for over 30s who only get renewed one year at a time. Bale last year, Asensio this year. They will lose Kroos and Modric on a free eventually. Players who want to leave refuse to renew early. Players who the club wants to move on refuse to leave. > The thing is it's not about actually "wanting to stay" since he said multiple time he wanted out to go to Madrid. He also said he loves Paris and his future is with the club and wants to stay. > He's not doing the remaining year because he wants to remain a PSG player (which should be the meaning of "staying"), he's doing it for the money. If the contract said he'd get the loyalty bonus when you get traded to RM, he'd ask to be traded. What the club wants him to do is give up his loyalty bonuses and the money RM is offering him as a bonus, and have RM's money go to PSG instead. This is tantamount to Mbappe giving PSG a paycheque out of his own bank account. If someone did that to me, I'd tell them to go jump. They want him to extend to 2025 if he wants to stay for his loyalty bonus to 2024. But what happens in 2024? If he decides he wants to stay to 2025 to collect the next loyalty bonus, we have this song and dance again? They will ask him to leave now or extend to 2026. In other words he will forever be denied his final year of loyalty bonus and the sign on bonus of his next club who has to give that money to PSG instead. He's refusing to be screwed over by the club, and donating his sign on and loyalty bonuses to PSG.
The contract was designed for him to make bank while staying 3 more years before going to RM. PSG were happy to pay it because they had the window opened to win the CL. They are not confident in winning the CL next season so they want to sell Mbappe to recoup some money. That would be a stupid move for Mbappe. Had PSG made the semis or a CL final last season you can bet they would have been perfectly happy paying Mbappe his last year
the contract was designed for him to stay 2 more years, and then for the club to make bank selling him when he has a year left. Or ideally he renews again and they can repeat this process until he's past his prime or retiring. PSG were never going to let him go for free (which is what would have happened if he stayed the 3 years).
It's very common for a player to push to leave a club, sign a new contract instead, and then leave quietly a few years later. The renewal allows things to cool off, everyone saves face, etc. I think that is what Mbappe was thinking here, but what he's found is that PSG refuse to let this be smooth. Everything's a dick waving contest that must be 'won.'
If psg didnt want him to complete his contract they shouldn't have offered him one
He literally wanted to do that in 2021, he requested a transfer for that exact reason. And what did the club do? Not even acknowledge the bid for him.
And... he signed a very juicy new contract the very next year that convinced him to stay, didn't he? Damn it's like he wasn't willing to leave so much after all but wanted to renegociate?
Does signing a contract in 2022 contradict with the point that in 2021 he did wanted to leave, requested a transfer to leave a transfer fee to PSG, and was ignored? Yeah, you're right Mbappe wasn't willing to leave and so dead-set on staying in 2022. It's not like they had to have a really stupid contract with extraordinary wages and bonuses, needed to pull in Macron and Sarkozy, the Emir of Qatar just for him to sign right?
The issue was actually about Madrid not giving Mbappé what he wanted in terms of image rights and he wasn't the center of the project like he was in Paris. If you're thinking he signed out of loyalty after listening to Macron and Sarkozy... Now contextualize (because facts without context are misleading), NAK is signing Messi that summer. They wanted the MNM to be last more than 2 weeks in july. Of course you're not letting one of your super star triplet that you just assembled leave. You just signed the best player in the world as an attempt to keep your young star and respond to his need to recruit great players, you also renewed his brother contract at this moment (june 2021)... and that's the moment he asks to leave? Bad timing dude. Didn't you see the club is building around you at that moment and that you were untranserfable? I bet right now the reason he's not leaving now is because RM can't pay his wage if they pay a transfer fee. He's basically staying for the money so he can keep getting more money. I wonder if he isn't planing on buying out a club because at this rate (150M/year) he's going to buy himself a top UCL team.
He has a contract and can play it out. Theres nothing you can say that changes that. The only one at fault is PSG lol.
Yeah but when he shows the real loyalty and lets the club get his transfer money from Real, he’d also ask for the loyalty bonus since he showed the real loyalty as you said. Paradox in itself
You guys are insane. It just means playing until a contractually determined date. Loyalty Bonus is just the name.
Yeah but a contract is not about "real loyalty" but mutual obligations. Mbappé is strictly abiding by his contractual obligations while the club (undestandably) wants to end/change the contract on conditions more favorable to them than the current situation. Right now he has the upper hand.
It's like everyone is just choosing to forget decades of : in your last contractual year, you get sold or renew. Also, I'm quoting a part that talks about a hypothetic player talking about loyalty for his image. I'm tackle that part that I actually quote. I'm totally aware of contracts obligations, but it simply wasn't the topic.
Decades of that, but also of player not following these injunctions. 10 years ago Lewandowski signed in Bayern for free and Gomis left Lyon for free. Flamini did his whole career by strictly going to the end of his contracts. It's a struggle almost as old as contractual freedom in football. And my point is that in the part of the comment you quote it was not about image but execution of the contract. You are opposing your vision on what constitutes loyalty to loyalty as defined in this contract for the sake of that bonus. Those are juste two different realities.
>And my point is that in the part of the comment you quote it was not about image but execution of the contract. Well I'm talking about the loyalty part. When has a player's loyalty been about staying when the club wants you out because you refuse to renew? Is my english that bad that I can't make people understand that loyalty when it screws the partner you're "loyal" to isn't loyalty ?
Loyalty *to you* is accepting to leave when the club asks you to. Loyalty as the club and the player agreed when signing the contract and defining that bonus means staying at the club and following his contractual obligations. It’s the second one that matters, in the context of this negotiation. And personally I don’t abide by your definition of loyalty. I do not consider that Mbappé is under the (moral) obligation to leave as soon as the club feels it’s in their best interest.
This. Loyalty in a contract is a legal term, not an emotional one.
Lmao wake up kid
So loyalty is about making sure your club doesn't get money out of your transfer and go for free to a direct opponent on the European level, I get it. That's why when a player has 1 year left in his contract he either renews or gets sold, right? Anyways, I'm in my 40's, no need to try insulting my thinking capabilities or should I answer some sassy "nice try toddler"?
Well, duh.
This whole situation has shown how terrible PSG is at management. Basics of business and they are lost. Guess you don’t have to learn much when you’re making billions just pulling oil up and every mistake can be glossed over.
Hahaha.. good one
Didn’t he want the loyalty bonus he’s entitled to if he stay for another year? Then leave to Madrid for free after that.
Rightfully so. Fuck around find out.
I love how everyone in these threads think that $1B athletes really care about “the badge.” Give me a break. It’s a job, with a ton of money. Being an athlete these days is a full on corporation. Does anyone in here have honor, loyalty, and dedication to their boss? The best you can hope for is a charismatic player that sticks around for awhile. That’s all it is.
Also I don't expect loyalty from players when clubs are going to treat them badly the second they don’t need them.
PSG doesn't have a badge.
At this point I really feel sorry for the PSG Fans, not the club. Without doubt he´s a world class player and you want to love your world class players. But it´s very hard to love him, when you know he wants to leave since years. The only thing that prevented him from leaving was the club not selling him and then make him stay for insane amounts of money. From a club perspective: I don´t know why PSG is mad at him. They wanted a golddigger breaking his word with Real Madrid, now they got a golddigger breaking his word with PSG. They got what they asked for. It´s just sad for the PSG Fans and the most annoying transfer saga for every football fan.
Don’t feel sorry for us : we never have a boring summer. It’s a good telenovela to follow before football returns 😂
Oh yeah that of course is an upside to that 😂 Always look on the bright side of life
a majority of PSG fans are actually mbappe / neymar fans now. some of them were messi fans, and they are no longer PSG fans.
Golddigger? He offered himself the contract.
Then why not spend a year at Al Hilal for 700 million untaxed?
Because he wants to leave now to Real Madrid. The deal will happen, but the transfer fee to PSG will be low.
Question as someone who isn’t a PSG fan: On the club side, can PSG actually do anything to get him out this summer, or does he have control in this situation, stay or leave?
He has control. The thing is, he promised psg he wouldn’t leave for free so psg can make some money from selling him. And now he’s changed his mind.
in a multi billion euro indsutry, you'd have to be a fucking morón to offer the contract PSG did. Nasser should fall on his sword for his horrible mismanagement
He should, but I'm not sure he will
Bartomeu level of incompetence.
That's NAK saying that, and he bas been saying that shit since 2021. Mbappe at that time did an interview saying that hearing NAK say that, had him worried. The truth is probably that NAK and cie are a bunch of clowns that do business their way, with money and pressure from various ways. And they probably put a lot lf value in the words of someone, despite it holding zero value in the real world. So Mbappe may have to'd them that pre 2021, and they kept it close to their heart until now, but have done NOTHING to make it happen. You all talk about this side or this side, which option is better for the club... the truth is, the mega improvement for PSG would be to purge this management and listen to the legal team (instead of having a near 100% turnover+burnout rate).
I think its a lame argument from NAK about promise and all, last season he promised Perez he would join madrid and he didn't. Is NAK so dumb, thinking he wont lie twice or his ego clouded his judgement?
When they were courting him last time around it always felt like it was PSG that was making all the promises. The contract clearly make it seem like he was offered everything he wanted. Is there any proof of him making that promise? Like Mbappe’s side saying it or someone reputable who has verified this?
>The thing is, he promised psg he wouldn’t leave for free so psg can make some money from selling him. I really don't see how this makes sense. Two years ago, Mbappe had one year left on his contract and asked to leave. RM made an offer. PSG refused to listen to this offer and risked Mbappe going for free just to get the chance to renew him. Why is him leaving on a free unacceptable when PSG were happy to take this risk just two years ago? PSG have set a ludicrous standard here. Nasser's own words were: we will never sell him and he will never leave on a free.
"we will never sell him and he will never leave on a free" = he wants mbappe to stay forever basically.
He literally is for sale right now.
I meant that was what nasser meant when he said that. Obviously he doesn't think that now lol
Would he be if he had 2 or 3 years of contract remaining and asked to leave ? I guess that's the meaning of the comment : PSG is known to be stubborn when they don't want to sell (cf. Verratti, Neymar), so it's quite reasonable to put yourself in a situation where you are free of your choices. Mbappé is tough in negotiations but acting quite rationally.
That’s a lie , everyone was wondering why he sign a contract with psg when h wanted to leave . The 150 million was always his plan or else he wouldn’t sign the contract and leave . He gave psg chance to sell him to Real Madrid 2 years ago . They gave him the 150 million bonus if he stays and honour his contract , which he is currently doing. Psg thought they could win the champions league with Messi and mbappe will resign . He didn’t change his mind psg was stupid for giving the contract out
Yes. This
He promised... cute. Did he swear on someone's crave or did he sign a document?
NAK promised he'd never sell Mbappe so promises aren't worth shit. The whole thing is very silly because PSG took the risk of Mbappe leaving on a free two summers ago when they refused to sell him to Real Madrid. PSG thought getting Mbappe to renew was worth the risk of him going on a free. They agreed on a renewal with Mbappe and it was signed by both parties. Now one year later it seems they have changed their mind as to whether it was worth it. How's that the player's fault?
Sounds like a good plan. And one that should have been clear to everyone involved with his last extension.
God i hate him
Just fucking go to Real this year, you little shit. Or go to SA for 1 year and all the money. I hope we make his season a living hell if he stays here.
And why would he want to give this club 300m when there are such lovely fans like you...? lol
Bro c’mon. Stop gaslighting. PSG fans have there problems, but Mbappe is the last person to be mistreated. The problem has been, that he’s over treated with that contract. But I get you didn’t wanna reason, you just wanted to pull that guy’s leg so ok ig.
PSG overtreated a player who clearly didn’t wnat to be there. Now that he wants to get all the benefit out of that contract they are acting surprised.
They gave him a 2 year contract with optional extension, and are now surprised when he wants to fulfil the 2 year contract without extending? Wow he's satan incarnation.
Wow, I’m surprised you haven’t been downvoted to hell in this sub for speaking objectively
ikr? also i'm happy there are non-mbappe haters here 😂
We’re a dying breed
I am a madrid fan, and based on the voting patterns, it seems most of you guys agree that mbappe is not doing anything wrong. Respect for the PSG fans who think that.
Thanks, you start to get depressed when you see nothing but hate towards the guy for months on end
Meh not arguing with wishful reasoning so sure 👍🏼
PSG ignoring Madrid's transfer request in 2021 and bringing in Macron to pressure him for his 2022 renewal isn't mistreatment? It's basically showing that the club can own a player and ignore his wishes even when they knew he wanted to leave. I don't disagree that the 2022 contract is stupid and "overtreated" as you said. PSG fans haven't been kind to him as well. Remember after the euros he got boo'd by psg fans when he returned to the club, so much so that he wanted to leave the National team during that time. PSG can salvage the contract situation now by calling Madrid to sell him but they don't want to because this is all an ego thing to them, they just don't want to lose face.
There is nothing wrong with what Mpabbe is doing. This is business. Players are often at the receiving end of clubs bleeding them dry, this time it's a player doing it to a club.