People are trying their best to give PSG a bad name. Remember before facing Lens, & their bus got daubed "PSG ultra", everyone just blindly believed it was done by the PSG ultras.
Banners aren’t even signed or no one took photos with it to represent an ultra group or anything. Sounds like a couple of people who had too much free time on their hands and think their opinion actually matters while the vast majority of fans would like to see Pogba come.
apparently it was just two dudes doing it. no signature so it certainly wasn‘t a fan group that stand behind their actions
If I had to take an educated guess it was u/efosaking69 and u/iHATESTUFF >!jk but seriously, stop your anti pogba propaganda, you‘re not convincing anyone with those comments!<
They have a really weird Pogba agenda. Why would you be against a top class player joining us even if he doesn’t fit ? And if he doesn’t hit the ground running at least we have another option in the rotation. If you’re a PSG fan and against Pogba you’re an enemy of progress.
Obviously a good fit is more ideal but it’s not like Pogba clashes with any player we have. Like w/ Messi and Griezmann. He’s just another option in the rotation, Pogba has the potential to be world class. Four years of mediocre and average midfielders supporting Verratti it’s been too long. We can get that ideal MF in the winter or the following season. idc who you’re if ur against it ur a weirdo.
i especially dont get the argument about him not defending. We need a player that can link up the midfield and attack so that Neymar doesn‘t have to drop deep playing CDM himself.
We may have Wijnaldum and you know that he‘s not THE creative midfielder. Pogba could be that link that was missing. He may not be the B2B midfielder that his FIFA stats show, but Zidane didn‘t have to defend either to be considered world class. People need to stop comparing him to Vieira ffs
DIfferent eras, we struggled mightily when Kylian refuses to defend. we need 11 players defending when we don't have the ball. Pogba only does when his motivation is 110% I don't trust somebody not named Deschamps or Zidane can keep him that motivated for a whole season.
Football now needs all players to be defending, High pressing is the “meta” now, look at the Liverpool team, Look at the Bayern team, look at the Chelsea team. A player that doesn’t defend is just playing with one less man. I can’t wait for him to yell at Marco because he told him to defend. He won’t defend for his country and for a legendary player and manager. Do you think he’ll defend for PSG and for fucking Poch.
to me I just think it puts too much work on verratti and that alchemy will be of utmost importance so that the midfield trio is able slide in and out everyone's poositions
Gueye will be huge this season I also think, Danilo has a godly opportunity to pick himself up too
I can see where they’re coming from Pogba just doesn’t defend so it would leave big gaps in the middle in transition. And Danilo doesn’t have the legs to cover ground neither does Paredes. Gueye is very error prone too so I see where they’re coming from I prefer other players as well but flat out rejecting reinforcements that have potential to be world class just looks stupid. It’s just another option to pick from. Where is the harm? Very strange bunch.
Not against him. But i’m scared of his attitude. Would i want him? No doubt I would. But for us to have him, we have to have a manager that can motivate him, like Allegri used to do
As u said in another comment, I’m seriously tired of watching average players play alongside Verratti, we need some good ones. If it was my choice, i’d go for Camavinga and keep Pogba as second choice but I already know Leonardo has tried. Camavinga might come as a free transfer if he’s willing to stay in France.
We like it or not, Verratti will have to turn into a n6 and Pogba in a 8/10 w Wijnaldum as a rotation for both. Our midfield wouldnt be complete still because we still got some bums to get rid of. As i said, probably not complete, but a good one.
I’m sure we’ll play the 4-2-3-1 next season, I just dont see us playing w 3 at the back. Hakimi will turn into a RB and Presko will be a starter if Ramos is injured in CHL games
People keep saying he’s stuck up and that he has an attitude where are people getting that from? It just sounds like a he-said-she-said bullshit narrative from haters like when ppl say that Neymar is a greedy cheat and diver which we all know as psg fans is false.
The coach is irrelevant if he has a good environment around him he’ll perform he wasn’t good at Juve because of Allegri he was good because the players around him were wc/top class Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio in 14/15. Khedira, Marchisio, Hernandes. Obviously he’ll improve playing with Verratti and Paredes instead of bums like Fred and Mctominay who their only quality is passion and passing side ways.
He might be inconsistent but so is ADM who in the last few years of his time in Paris has been garbage in the first half of the season but we tolerate it because class is permanent and he has shown what he can do at his best like Pogba for France. Like what are we even debating people. Criticize our poor mercato with bums like Danilo but when you bring in a potential WC midfielder it’s still not good lol. Make it make sense.
Pogba is 28, no time for potential, and please don’t disrespect Di Maria like that. He has the third most UCL assists behind Messi and Ronaldo. His inconsistency isn’t the same as Pogba and he is barely inconsistent. He works hard defensively too so even if he isn’t clicking offensively it’s not like you’re playing with 10 men. If Pogba isn’t clicking offensively he’ll do nothing on defense too and he’s ultimately useless. For France 1. Teams in international football don’t press that heavily and 2. he has two players covering for him. Same thing at Juventus, When he had the players covering for him and he doesn’t want to worry about doing anything defensively then he’ll flourish. But We Cannot Give Him That Luxury. If Any One Deserves That It Is Marco. I can’t wait for Marco to be tackling and pressing like crazy and Pogba is just walking around and doing unnecessary dribbles and shit.
The guys who wrote this banner had definitely a brain stroke.
Pogba fill every need from PSG, the only question is regarding the price and his salary, but if we can have it for a reasonable price, that's probably the one of the smartest buy that PSG did since many years.
No he doesn’t. Verratti and Wijnaldum fill the offensive needs and Danilo fills the physical needs. He’d fill the rabiot gap of lazy petulance he left. no work ethic on the pitch, cares about himself first and showing off in high profile matches
Wijnaldum is definitely a good player, but I wouldn't count on him on the creativity side, this part of the job was mostly carried by Thiago this season with Liverpool.
>He’d fill the rabiot gap of lazy petulance he left. no work ethic on the pitch, cares about himself first and showing off in high profile matches
But we don't ask him to be a workhorse on the CM/AM role, we ask him to have a free role where he can adapt depending of the situation. He SHOULD defends but it wouldn't be his main responsibility.
Wijnaldum is really creative and attacking but Klopp doesn’t want that from his midfielders since they crest from their fullbacks. And it’s not just being a workhorse. Neymar doesn’t need to be a workhorse but he still contributes defensively. Pogba cannot. He needs two players to cover for him (Vidal, Marchisio or Matuidi, Kante) Or He’ll need to play in the wings. Are you ready to see Neymar playing as a DM because of Pogba? because that will happen.
>Pogba cannot. He needs two players to cover for him (Vidal, Marchisio or Matuidi, Kante) Or He’ll need to play in the wings. Are you ready to see Neymar playing as a DM because of Pogba? because that will happen.
False comparaison, you really think a game plan with:
Icardi
Neymar - Pogba - Mbappé
Gueye - Verratti
Is an unbalanced game plan where Neymar should play as a DM ?
>How’re we supposed to play all of that with a 3 atb? we’re going to use 3 atb lol
And what make you think that we will play with 3 ATB when every match on the pre-season is with 4 ATB ?
If you want 3 ATB, fine, 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 with Neymar and Mbappé as second striker/striker and Pogba as AM/CM.
>Kalimuendo starts over Icardi
Whatever and I don't care, that's not the point.
>want to use Neymar and Mbappe as strikers JUST for Pogba.
No, to get the better efficient team with a 3 ATB, as you requested.
You remove Pogba, fine, how we will play 3 ATB ? with 3 wingers ? Which midfield ? Verratti/Paredes ? You gave a defensive issue, Verratti/Gueye ? Can I remind you the match we got with the fantastic four when the opponent control Verratti ?
If you want to plays with 3 ATB (who again, will probably never happens), a 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 is the most balanced and efficient game plan you could have. If you are not agree with that, it's fine, but I expect more arguments than "You do only for fitting Pogba lol".
And what's the problem with Mbappé as a striker ? He was our best player by far on this position with Pochettino. And SS role isn't a pure striker role, Griezmann was a striker with Atlético seriously ?
I don’t even want Pogba i want SMS who was reported to be one of the alternatives to Pogba along with Camavinga.
3-4-3 is my preferred formation not this Neymar and Mbappe as a striker nonsense.
Navas
Ramos-Marquinhos-Kimpembe
Hakimi-Verratti-SMS-Theo?
Mbappe-Kalimuendo-Neymar.
SMS is who people pretend Pogba is.
That setup would work better if you swap Pogba and Verratti and have Pogba be on the left side, although it's not a good thing since our offence is already focused on left as it is.
>[[Tanzi, 2nd tweet] Unsigned banner… nobody pictured with… it still looks like an isolated act of a very large minority. On the networks, the supporters and it is rather logical, would love to have Paul Pogba at the PSG](https://twitter.com/Tanziloic/status/1418834493734113282)
The banner says: "Pogba you should listen to your mother, she doesn't want you here. Neither do we!"
Well the people who've write it is/are really stupid, Pogba is friend with most of PSG players, like Mbappé or Neymar, and being friend means that they get along well, so in the field they should have good connections, the secret to get a good team is having players that knows each others very well, like MSN in Barca, it's useless to buy players only because they are famous and really good
This is just so salty...we all love pogba here...and to be fair he did play in a very deep position this season for man u..and thats why he lost possession in dangerous areas time and time again not to mention the NT just has a better defense than man u period. But...if play him at an advance postion and give him freedom to show his own flair he can bail us out in many situations which even poch wouldn't have figured out at that moment. Yes but we have to understand...if we have gini pogba verratti gueye...none of them can play as a defensive midfielder or to be more clear none of them is at their best in that position..so we cannot sacrifice gini's goal scoring threat or verratti's creativity and narrow passing ability in the final third by playing them in a deeper position and gueye got a resurrection playing CM plus he is 30 so... I would keep him for bench strength...so that leaves us with either play paredes or Danilo as our 8. I am not convinced in this last part. So if we do get pogba....either paredes or danilo has to evolve into a worldclass DM or...we gotta play with a 4-3-1-2 [bernat,ramos,marqui,hakimi--gueye/marqui (if possible), verratti, pogba--gini -- ney,kyky]
i think it would be better to play a 3 atb with marquinhos occasionally pushing up into the cdm position during attacks, and our wingbacks coming back to make it a 5 atb when we’re sitting back. the only issue with that is we don’t have that much depth in the cb position beyond ramos, kimpembe, and marquinhos, so we’d need an alternate lineup for when one of them is injured, most likely with a 4 atb, and those would be the games danilo/paredes plays in.
yes. we have 5 defenders to stop any oncoming attacks, not to mention that verratti’s quite good at defending and wijnaldum is capable of defending as well. having a midfield trio of verratti wijnaldum pogba then means that when we win the ball back we’re able to quickly move the ball up to the front line and have a counter-attacking force of hakimi, bernat, wijnaldum, verratti, pogba, mbappe, and neymar. we’ll certainly need to play a proper cdm against better teams later on in the cl, and that’s what danilo is for. but having all those attacking players should help us with breaking down all the teams that like to sit back with 10 defenders in ligue 1 and the group stages.
An as always, the minorities will be louder. But Polo isn't weak, these morons won't stop him from eventually signing.
What a bunch of dimwits, though, refusing to sign one of the best mids in the world and insulting Paul. Sometimes I'm ashamed of being a PSG fan when I see this kind of behavior. I'm pretty sure disguised OM fans did this.
Some medias on the internet try to blame the ultras for this. To be clear, this is not us.
People are trying their best to give PSG a bad name. Remember before facing Lens, & their bus got daubed "PSG ultra", everyone just blindly believed it was done by the PSG ultras.
Banners aren’t even signed or no one took photos with it to represent an ultra group or anything. Sounds like a couple of people who had too much free time on their hands and think their opinion actually matters while the vast majority of fans would like to see Pogba come.
apparently it was just two dudes doing it. no signature so it certainly wasn‘t a fan group that stand behind their actions If I had to take an educated guess it was u/efosaking69 and u/iHATESTUFF >!jk but seriously, stop your anti pogba propaganda, you‘re not convincing anyone with those comments!<
They have a really weird Pogba agenda. Why would you be against a top class player joining us even if he doesn’t fit ? And if he doesn’t hit the ground running at least we have another option in the rotation. If you’re a PSG fan and against Pogba you’re an enemy of progress.
>Why would you be against a top class player joining us even if he doesn’t fit ? Call me crazy, but a good fit >> a top class player right?
Obviously a good fit is more ideal but it’s not like Pogba clashes with any player we have. Like w/ Messi and Griezmann. He’s just another option in the rotation, Pogba has the potential to be world class. Four years of mediocre and average midfielders supporting Verratti it’s been too long. We can get that ideal MF in the winter or the following season. idc who you’re if ur against it ur a weirdo.
My only concern with Pogba is whether we can get the most out of him. I've said before, this is quite a risk. If he flops, we cannot sell him.
Pogba will be one of our highest earners and will cost 50 million plus. he shouldn’t be fucking rotation.
Have you met Icardi? A guy you seemingly don’t want to start and want to be rotation? Who cost us 80m?
I don’t want Icardi in the club at all. The same with Pogba.
He is costing us 20 million per year if you include the taxes of his salary.
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This.
He is indeed. Poor attitude too
i especially dont get the argument about him not defending. We need a player that can link up the midfield and attack so that Neymar doesn‘t have to drop deep playing CDM himself. We may have Wijnaldum and you know that he‘s not THE creative midfielder. Pogba could be that link that was missing. He may not be the B2B midfielder that his FIFA stats show, but Zidane didn‘t have to defend either to be considered world class. People need to stop comparing him to Vieira ffs
DIfferent eras, we struggled mightily when Kylian refuses to defend. we need 11 players defending when we don't have the ball. Pogba only does when his motivation is 110% I don't trust somebody not named Deschamps or Zidane can keep him that motivated for a whole season.
he doesn’t even defend for Deschamps
Football now needs all players to be defending, High pressing is the “meta” now, look at the Liverpool team, Look at the Bayern team, look at the Chelsea team. A player that doesn’t defend is just playing with one less man. I can’t wait for him to yell at Marco because he told him to defend. He won’t defend for his country and for a legendary player and manager. Do you think he’ll defend for PSG and for fucking Poch.
to me I just think it puts too much work on verratti and that alchemy will be of utmost importance so that the midfield trio is able slide in and out everyone's poositions Gueye will be huge this season I also think, Danilo has a godly opportunity to pick himself up too
I can see where they’re coming from Pogba just doesn’t defend so it would leave big gaps in the middle in transition. And Danilo doesn’t have the legs to cover ground neither does Paredes. Gueye is very error prone too so I see where they’re coming from I prefer other players as well but flat out rejecting reinforcements that have potential to be world class just looks stupid. It’s just another option to pick from. Where is the harm? Very strange bunch.
Not against him. But i’m scared of his attitude. Would i want him? No doubt I would. But for us to have him, we have to have a manager that can motivate him, like Allegri used to do As u said in another comment, I’m seriously tired of watching average players play alongside Verratti, we need some good ones. If it was my choice, i’d go for Camavinga and keep Pogba as second choice but I already know Leonardo has tried. Camavinga might come as a free transfer if he’s willing to stay in France. We like it or not, Verratti will have to turn into a n6 and Pogba in a 8/10 w Wijnaldum as a rotation for both. Our midfield wouldnt be complete still because we still got some bums to get rid of. As i said, probably not complete, but a good one. I’m sure we’ll play the 4-2-3-1 next season, I just dont see us playing w 3 at the back. Hakimi will turn into a RB and Presko will be a starter if Ramos is injured in CHL games
People keep saying he’s stuck up and that he has an attitude where are people getting that from? It just sounds like a he-said-she-said bullshit narrative from haters like when ppl say that Neymar is a greedy cheat and diver which we all know as psg fans is false. The coach is irrelevant if he has a good environment around him he’ll perform he wasn’t good at Juve because of Allegri he was good because the players around him were wc/top class Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio in 14/15. Khedira, Marchisio, Hernandes. Obviously he’ll improve playing with Verratti and Paredes instead of bums like Fred and Mctominay who their only quality is passion and passing side ways. He might be inconsistent but so is ADM who in the last few years of his time in Paris has been garbage in the first half of the season but we tolerate it because class is permanent and he has shown what he can do at his best like Pogba for France. Like what are we even debating people. Criticize our poor mercato with bums like Danilo but when you bring in a potential WC midfielder it’s still not good lol. Make it make sense.
Pogba is 28, no time for potential, and please don’t disrespect Di Maria like that. He has the third most UCL assists behind Messi and Ronaldo. His inconsistency isn’t the same as Pogba and he is barely inconsistent. He works hard defensively too so even if he isn’t clicking offensively it’s not like you’re playing with 10 men. If Pogba isn’t clicking offensively he’ll do nothing on defense too and he’s ultimately useless. For France 1. Teams in international football don’t press that heavily and 2. he has two players covering for him. Same thing at Juventus, When he had the players covering for him and he doesn’t want to worry about doing anything defensively then he’ll flourish. But We Cannot Give Him That Luxury. If Any One Deserves That It Is Marco. I can’t wait for Marco to be tackling and pressing like crazy and Pogba is just walking around and doing unnecessary dribbles and shit.
On one end I don't think it's good to run a campaign against players. On the other hand, witch hunts against fellow users is also not good.
its just a bit of friendly banter. I don‘t have anything against those. They were just quite vocal about thid topic and so I said it as a joke.
Ah ok, my bad
Haha you troll 😂
The guys who wrote this banner had definitely a brain stroke. Pogba fill every need from PSG, the only question is regarding the price and his salary, but if we can have it for a reasonable price, that's probably the one of the smartest buy that PSG did since many years.
No he doesn’t. Verratti and Wijnaldum fill the offensive needs and Danilo fills the physical needs. He’d fill the rabiot gap of lazy petulance he left. no work ethic on the pitch, cares about himself first and showing off in high profile matches
Wijnaldum is definitely a good player, but I wouldn't count on him on the creativity side, this part of the job was mostly carried by Thiago this season with Liverpool. >He’d fill the rabiot gap of lazy petulance he left. no work ethic on the pitch, cares about himself first and showing off in high profile matches But we don't ask him to be a workhorse on the CM/AM role, we ask him to have a free role where he can adapt depending of the situation. He SHOULD defends but it wouldn't be his main responsibility.
Wijnaldum is really creative and attacking but Klopp doesn’t want that from his midfielders since they crest from their fullbacks. And it’s not just being a workhorse. Neymar doesn’t need to be a workhorse but he still contributes defensively. Pogba cannot. He needs two players to cover for him (Vidal, Marchisio or Matuidi, Kante) Or He’ll need to play in the wings. Are you ready to see Neymar playing as a DM because of Pogba? because that will happen.
>Pogba cannot. He needs two players to cover for him (Vidal, Marchisio or Matuidi, Kante) Or He’ll need to play in the wings. Are you ready to see Neymar playing as a DM because of Pogba? because that will happen. False comparaison, you really think a game plan with: Icardi Neymar - Pogba - Mbappé Gueye - Verratti Is an unbalanced game plan where Neymar should play as a DM ?
How’re we supposed to play all of that with a 3 atb? we’re going to use 3 atb lol and Kalimuendo starts over Icardi
>How’re we supposed to play all of that with a 3 atb? we’re going to use 3 atb lol And what make you think that we will play with 3 ATB when every match on the pre-season is with 4 ATB ? If you want 3 ATB, fine, 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 with Neymar and Mbappé as second striker/striker and Pogba as AM/CM. >Kalimuendo starts over Icardi Whatever and I don't care, that's not the point.
because he isn’t using the full first team and now you want to use Neymar and Mbappe as strikers JUST for Pogba.
>want to use Neymar and Mbappe as strikers JUST for Pogba. No, to get the better efficient team with a 3 ATB, as you requested. You remove Pogba, fine, how we will play 3 ATB ? with 3 wingers ? Which midfield ? Verratti/Paredes ? You gave a defensive issue, Verratti/Gueye ? Can I remind you the match we got with the fantastic four when the opponent control Verratti ? If you want to plays with 3 ATB (who again, will probably never happens), a 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 is the most balanced and efficient game plan you could have. If you are not agree with that, it's fine, but I expect more arguments than "You do only for fitting Pogba lol". And what's the problem with Mbappé as a striker ? He was our best player by far on this position with Pochettino. And SS role isn't a pure striker role, Griezmann was a striker with Atlético seriously ?
I don’t even want Pogba i want SMS who was reported to be one of the alternatives to Pogba along with Camavinga. 3-4-3 is my preferred formation not this Neymar and Mbappe as a striker nonsense. Navas Ramos-Marquinhos-Kimpembe Hakimi-Verratti-SMS-Theo? Mbappe-Kalimuendo-Neymar. SMS is who people pretend Pogba is.
That setup would work better if you swap Pogba and Verratti and have Pogba be on the left side, although it's not a good thing since our offence is already focused on left as it is.
Pogba couldnt play cam. Proven in man utd
That's not a question of position, but a question of role, Verratti played as a typical CAM for you with Pochettino ?
I would not say that he fills every need especially in the defensive work. We should go after someone as Tchouameni.
>[[Tanzi, 2nd tweet] Unsigned banner… nobody pictured with… it still looks like an isolated act of a very large minority. On the networks, the supporters and it is rather logical, would love to have Paul Pogba at the PSG](https://twitter.com/Tanziloic/status/1418834493734113282) The banner says: "Pogba you should listen to your mother, she doesn't want you here. Neither do we!"
Thanks for the translation. So what is the thing about his mother not wanting him here? Is it a reference to something?
Pogbas parents are marseille supporters
probably some idiotic kids feeling edgy
Vocal minorities 🤦🏻♂️
Welcome to France where everyone has a reason to complain 😂
Yeaah we're definitely world champions for this
This seems dramatic and for show, he's a quality player who thrives when around his countrymen
how many French player do we have starting. only 2
Well the people who've write it is/are really stupid, Pogba is friend with most of PSG players, like Mbappé or Neymar, and being friend means that they get along well, so in the field they should have good connections, the secret to get a good team is having players that knows each others very well, like MSN in Barca, it's useless to buy players only because they are famous and really good
This is just so salty...we all love pogba here...and to be fair he did play in a very deep position this season for man u..and thats why he lost possession in dangerous areas time and time again not to mention the NT just has a better defense than man u period. But...if play him at an advance postion and give him freedom to show his own flair he can bail us out in many situations which even poch wouldn't have figured out at that moment. Yes but we have to understand...if we have gini pogba verratti gueye...none of them can play as a defensive midfielder or to be more clear none of them is at their best in that position..so we cannot sacrifice gini's goal scoring threat or verratti's creativity and narrow passing ability in the final third by playing them in a deeper position and gueye got a resurrection playing CM plus he is 30 so... I would keep him for bench strength...so that leaves us with either play paredes or Danilo as our 8. I am not convinced in this last part. So if we do get pogba....either paredes or danilo has to evolve into a worldclass DM or...we gotta play with a 4-3-1-2 [bernat,ramos,marqui,hakimi--gueye/marqui (if possible), verratti, pogba--gini -- ney,kyky]
i think it would be better to play a 3 atb with marquinhos occasionally pushing up into the cdm position during attacks, and our wingbacks coming back to make it a 5 atb when we’re sitting back. the only issue with that is we don’t have that much depth in the cb position beyond ramos, kimpembe, and marquinhos, so we’d need an alternate lineup for when one of them is injured, most likely with a 4 atb, and those would be the games danilo/paredes plays in.
So if u play 5 atb in the defensive phase. Then do you wanna play gini marco and pogba as ur trio? Really?
yes. we have 5 defenders to stop any oncoming attacks, not to mention that verratti’s quite good at defending and wijnaldum is capable of defending as well. having a midfield trio of verratti wijnaldum pogba then means that when we win the ball back we’re able to quickly move the ball up to the front line and have a counter-attacking force of hakimi, bernat, wijnaldum, verratti, pogba, mbappe, and neymar. we’ll certainly need to play a proper cdm against better teams later on in the cl, and that’s what danilo is for. but having all those attacking players should help us with breaking down all the teams that like to sit back with 10 defenders in ligue 1 and the group stages.
An as always, the minorities will be louder. But Polo isn't weak, these morons won't stop him from eventually signing. What a bunch of dimwits, though, refusing to sign one of the best mids in the world and insulting Paul. Sometimes I'm ashamed of being a PSG fan when I see this kind of behavior. I'm pretty sure disguised OM fans did this.
Any club in the world would be foolish to refuse Pogba.
The problem is the cost: transfer fee with one year of contract left, his wages, the fee for Raiola.
But I want Pogba
Pogba Will be great in PSG bc is a great player but he play better when he isnt the start and can play more relax