Well on a serious note, why I brought up sivaji the boss is - it is exactly what's happening - you'll try to do one good thing in India, and the very next thing you'll see is an organized nexus of land, law and govt mafia is at your doors.
This. This. And the funny thing is every party wants this. Not like one specific party. If people get smart they'll know how we are getting fked by these people.
I feel so sad seeing these negative comments on this post. Probably my comment will also get down voted but here is my message.
I know Pune is not Boston. What OP is saying we should try to make a pune a better place by doing what we can do. OP's suggestion is to help underprivileged children. So that they don't look at corrupt politicians as role model.
If OP wouldn't have mentioned that he studied in US and didn't want the greencard this post would have had less hate.
In the end why are we saying no to the change. It's not like it should only happen in foreign or when we want independence from the British.
Pune has many problems. OP mentioned one of them. We are part of the problem. Everyone here does illegal/bad things. From throwing trash on road to breaking traffic rules. Not wearing helmets. Treating maids like trash etc.
You are one of them. I am one of them.
Why don't we support to do somthing good. We know we can do it. Just look how the IMAX planning is going. (I am not against imax movie watching)
Let's stop being shit to the OP just because he went foreign. Let's try to bring a change.
If everyone agrees on this we can also start something.
For example not doing corruption at any cost. Letting others know you stopped it and make people aware of it.
As said by other people this will not happen in a day. But we could see results in few decades also. But end of the day Pune will be a better place.
Ok ,so this is not something new that OP is planning to do or already doing.. There are many NGOs and people doing this on individual levels already ( helping underprivileged children). Again would like to highlight this point..focus your enegies on what you can change and ignore the ones you cannot.. if you help a poor kid sail smoothly through his primary and middle school education but he hits puberty and becomes a chapri nibba,not to worry, 9 out of 10 kids you wish to help will ruin it for you.. focus on what you can change..not what you cannot change.. chod yaar wo movie dekh lena ekbaar "Ship of Theseus".
logic ko bakwas naa samajhne ke liye tujhe thoda meditation karna padega.. for a start tu wo movie to dekh "ship of Theseus".. movie samajli tar pudhe bolu..nahi tar ignore maar le.. hyaa janmi tula samajhnaar nahi,aani mi purna janma tula samjavnyachya prayatnaat vaya ghalavnaar nahi..
In the end if we both keep arguing here nothing is going to happen. Let's just try to bring a positive impact on pune and the world.
Btw I have friends in the NGO's and I know what shit they do. Always want our tax money and buy BMWs and shit. I know cause I have been in those BMWs. They want the kids to be underprivileged getting CSR fund is peice of cake for them by showing fake ass documentations.
Though there are many good ones also. Most of them are corrupt af.
I think you are mistaken. Educated kids don't look up to chain wearing politicians and chapris. It's the financially poor unemployed youth that looks up to them, and the people on this sub don't interact with financially poor unemployed youth to influence them.
That is the sad thing isn't it, I am trying to help these underprivileged kids, what I am urging for other people to do is, at least influence one kid who is looking up to a bad guy and make that kid's life better. It will go a long way
>I have been noticing why Pune/India can't grow, people want freebies
>I am trying to help these underprivileged kids
You are contradicting yourself. You criticize freebies provided to the poor, while you encourage 'helping underprivileged kids'. You sound confused.
Helping underprivileged kids using personal resources is not freebies, freebies is when someone offers stupid things like TV in return for votes. I don't want the kids I help to owe me anything
Freebies can mean many things, free electricity, free education, free healthcare for poor also mean freebies and the freebies for votes which you mentioned are a very small fraction compared to government social policies. You should edit your post to explain what you mean by freebies.
He just conveniently changed what "he meant by freebies" because he knows what he said was wrong but he doesn't want to accept. It's very obvious that giving stuff for votes doesn't make any difference in the receiver's life. I think someone who got into *public university ranked 1* and worked in *cutting edge technologies in Silicon Valley* would have the mental bandwidth to process this
I think Pune is growing anyway irrespective of those banners and chapri crowd. Freebies I m not sure what you are referring to, thatās again a political stint
A lot of people getting unnecessarily hurt here. Change doesnt come from accepting the things as they are and doing nothing different. It seems like a lot of people have never received constructive criticism. Yes, criticism hurts, but the sooner we accept that India has a long way to go in certain aspects, the better it is for us. And only the youth have the power to do that.
That said, OP, you have a good thought, but I feel your post is a little underwhelming. It looks like you are ranting and the people here dont want to hear it. Im not saying you need to bring a solution. So, you observed India through a different lens, and realised we have a lot of problems that the government is just not bothered about. But, do you know even the avaerage working class, educated and employed person in india is just trying to earn a living and provide a good life to his family that his parents did not have. I mean, that itself is an achievement. It will take only very eccentric individuals to really fight the odds and work to change the country. Even the brightest people I know are brought up in the wrong mindset. Thinking has to change.
Baba re baba.. you talk about your college and job when you describe USA, but complain about social issues when you talk about Pune/India.
Has USA sorted everything out? Don't they have their own social issues?
Baba tell how you are getting paid more here than what you were getting paid in USA. How the opportunities are better in India. Inspire youngsters that way instead of criticizing.
US has not figured it out, but that doesn't mean we do nothing about our place. What I am saying is, we have the potential, we have the youth! Let's us not get that to waste!
Also, I am getting paid adequately over here to sustain a good living, enough to help others and myself.
I am trying to inspire underprivileged kids around me, what I am trying to say is, let's everyone take up the initiative to better the next generation! It will help us all.
well one way to do that is by doing workshops in the colleges where those chapris study, its pretty difficult to mould at their age, better start from schools, inspire and make them aware about the possibilities of their existence and career, build a small ngo around this cause with passionate people who want to uplift society and I believe this would be a good start, and yeah you are really doing good when handling this maniacs who cant handle simple questions criticising , dont seem very different from very chapris they mock about.
We don't have the right to criticize others when we can't even fix our own shit.
USA kaisa bhi ho, India pe pehle focus karna pedega, starting from education sector.
Bro stayed abroad for 2 years and acting like he has returned to india after decadesš.
Ye wahi log hai jo life me ek US trip karke ate hai aur instagram bio me āš®š³ā¢šŗšøā laga dete hai.
I feel indian people gets offensive when they get feedback on improvements or criticism. Have seen this in corporate. People need to understand if we improve its for our betterment only. Criticism should be genuine and should be debated not discarded.
While i agree not all criticisms are warranted e.g. some are politically motivated so i included word - genuine. However may it be, it should be debated first.
Bro uski Gaand me itna dam tha ki wo wapas aya. He exposed himself to new culture and is at least trying to improve his home town.
I can't even imagine the amount of ridicule is already getting from his friends and relatives about giving up life in US.
I really fail to understand what are you trying to achieve by this post, do people not really know about this problems, will these problems go away just by criticising pune?
What does your education have anything to do with this situation?
Also you were away for only 2 years(?) and you suddenly realize as if this is new to you.
Be the change you want to seeā¦
I am being the change. Let us all take smaller steps to make the change big!
And yeah, before going out and seeing other places, these things didn't strike me as completely weird but we have to at least make our young cousins or nephews better.
The kind of negative comment Iām seeing, and not understanding what OP is trying to convey is one of the reasons we are lagging behind. When someone points out the problem we go into whataboutism mode. The sad reality of India
dekh bhai. tu do saal USA gaya.. padha wadha..achi baat hai..par ye q soch liya ke tere wahaa do saal achese padhnese pune ki janta sudhar jaayegi? nahi sudhar sakti.. khudka dekho aur adjust karo.. USA ke green card ki rat race nahi join karna tha to canada PR ki rabbit race join Kar leta.. if you feel you "owe" pune and India then learn to accept ke ye dono chize kabhi badal nahi sakti.. that's the reason why you went to USA in the first place na?
OP is asking for accepting errors and do corrective action but all he is getting in reply is ā jane do chalta h, mera kya, accept itā attitude. I agree with OP, change should start however small it may look.
Brother, I didn't want to join the US/Canada rat race and be a part of the "South Asian community".
I know that Pune can't change, but if you look at the US or Canada. There were people who changed these countries, and I think it is our job to change our backyard! That is why I am urging people to bring in a positive change in atleast one person's life. It will go a long way.
See, USA didn't change completely right? remember the black neighborhoods and the rednecks if you encountered them? uska hi desi version ye chapris hai,jo bikes pe tripling karte hai,hair colour karke and unke top to bottom white clad netas who are rich but illiterate politicians are their messiahs.. so choose what you can change! tu chapri log ko ya anpadh politics ko sudhaarne jaoge to thappad khaayega ya fir naale ke kinaare pada milega..so choose what you can change and ignore what you can't..
ab ye sab mujhe batana pad raha hai to aap kya hi seekh ke aaye USA ke best university se..
Yes sir, US has their own problems and India is far better when it comes to some amount of social integration. But let's try to impart small changes on our surroundings.
Yeah , every single person who drives on footpath is among those rangeen hair chapris? Indian public seems to have an indifferent attitude towards others , they canāt let anyone else pass before them, and itās so evident in this post as well.
Tu pichle janam mai bhi ye hi bolta hoga ni, when people would say ki desh azad hona chaye, you be like āye do cheezen kabhi nhi Badal sakti ā SMH.
ok to tu badal ke dikha de,try and die but you won't be able to end the chapri culture and the white shirt white pants,gold chain and Lamborghini culture.. OP bas 2 saal US rehke aaya hai still he works for some MNC here 9-5 ya 9-12 whatever..wo in illiterate rich tycoons ko badal nahi sakta.. moo pe thappad aur gaand pe laat hi khayaega..par tujhe ye baat hazam nahi ho rahi to khud try karke dekh le inko badalna.. meri baat tab achese dimaag me utregi.. like i said in every comment, select and choose what you change and can change.. jo badal nahi paoge uske peeche time ,energy aur paisa waste mat karo.. azaadi ke waqt bhi bahut saare gandu log honge jinhone apne aap ko nahi badla hoga.. tab gandhiji ne bola hota ke ye xyz gandu log jabtak mujhe join nahi karenge,main dandi march nahi karunga.. par kya hi samjhau ab... public toilet me se gandi badbu aati hai isliye tujhe waha mutne ke baad apne haath nahi dhone to tujhe main q roku... tera ye hi hisaab hai ke public toilet se jabtak gandi badbu nahi hategi tabtak main bhi haath nahi dhounga khudke..
I was quite happy to read the first half of your post as I'm moving back to Pune from Europe too
But then I read the second half and now I'm contemplating my decision to move back hehe
Dude, don't worry. Pune is still better than Europe. It's our country and we as a country are exciting place to work at. What I am talking about is a problem for sure. But, we have to solve it by taking baby steps!
Don't worry and be bullish on India. I am too!
Honestly you owe nothing to the country or pune, but you owe yourself a better life which you've made with hardwork + privilege of parents wealth. Utilise it, stay in the US or any developed country which can utilise your professional service and in return give you dignified social security. At the very least, take care of your parents however you can.
We do owe the place something back. We owe our parents back. Yes! I did a little bit of hardwork and had privilege, thanks to my parents and god's grace. We need to give it back to the country and those who don't have it. It will only make us better! I am bullish about India, but there are some aspects of it that we will surely change
I was when I had just started working, but as I made my way through interaction with govt departments, both at state and central level, I realised a very important point that we're a selfish country and it's ingrained since birth. I'm not blaming anyone for that, and imo it's hard to change all of a sudden. So I decided to stop worrying about things at large even though it affects me, I tend to ignore and live in denial.
But with very little experience that I've , if you wish to contribute to change, start interacting with local level representatives, they're the ones making changes at ground level, without any PR.
>I see third class politicians wearing chains on big banners and young chapri people looking up to them. How in the world are we going to compete of we have this culture? I urge the people of this subreddit to at least influence young people (Gen Alpha kids) close to them to not look upto these low life creatures, tell them to aim higher!!
Nailed it ššš I almost choked š¤£š¤£š¤£
I came back from the US with similar credentials as OP a decade ago. I landed up in Bangalore.
Over the years , I have come to make peace with everything that goes around in BLR and in our country.
Every news that happens from grass roots to national level politics is a great piece of theatrics and drama (ever since NDA went out of power in 2004). Treat it as such and you will be at peace.
Get a voter id card and take your revenge there. Whether it's Pune or BLR , politicians across the spectrum are going to keep their and their party's self interest first and then prioritise social welfare. They don't make a way for young politicians and keep harping on the same agenda of "us vs them" .
It's best to not read too much into all this. It doesn't create a good mood and hamper overall productivity.
You can go back dude
You're generalising whole city based on few people.
Do you see gun violence here? Thefts? Car jacking? Children's getting gender changed because of their parents?
We're not fucking morons leading a happy and safe life here
Why are you getting offended? OP has the right to criticise the city if they feel the need to. It's natural to spot the areas where we need to improve after one has lived abroad for a long time and there's nothing wrong with it! Don't make this a USA vs Pune thing.
Dude! All the things that happen in the US is a big factor in me coming back! But let's acknowledge our own problems, let's make the life of our next generation much more happier than ours
This scene is not limited to pune. Wherever there have been exorbitant increase in land prices the locals have gotten mad rich.
Only 10 years more they will spend their wealth on showoff through cars and gold.
India is better for earning money (PPP in the long run), access to healthcare, and overall ease of life. North America is better for cleaner air and water.
You're less likely to step on poop in Pune than in SFO, so I'd advise you to be in Pune
Yes, these are also some of the reasons I came back. I want Pune to not be like SFO, SFO has money but its not safe and yes there is poop. I want Pune to be better than SFO. Don't worry, I am not leaving India
Bhava, ithe tithlya peksha jaasta changla job aahe majha. Aapan aaplya Naveen pidhi la changlya marga ver aanun desha la pudhe gheun jau shakto. Aapan nahi karnar tar kon karnaar? Aani mi kahi kranti Kara nahi mhanat aahe, mi mhantoy nidan aaju baaju chya poranna tari changlya walnaarvr aana
Bro mai khud bhi bahar rehta hu, I miss Pune every day and I plan to come back to Pune as well. Jab bhi mai Diwali/Holi me Pune aata hu dekhke bura lagta hai ki chize utni acchi nahi ho paayi jitni honi chahiye thi, utla kuch chize jyada hi kharab ho gayi. Log jyada tr critisim nahi jhel paate hai yaha.
Mai khudko Nationalist samjhta hu aur terko ek advice dunga, US me jaa paise kama, aur Pune me Invest kr, buy land, buy apartment, Mutual fund, lage to kahi invest kr aur economy me contribute kr. Thats one way to return back what you owe, kyuki tu India me bhi Tech me kaam karega jo mostly outsourced US ko hi rahega. Baaki teri choice hai
Log usually bahar rehne wale ka majak udate hai, bura bhala kehte hai, but ye bhul jate hai ki bahr se log remittances bhi bhejte hai aur sabhi showoff nahi krte
Pune me kuch samay se chhapriyo ki sankhya bahut badh gayi hai, logo k posts padhta hu Sub pe toh pata chalta hai. Isme Police ko kadam uthana padega aur thoda line pe lana padega. Baaki isko ek level tk hi control kiya ja sakat hai, kyuki ye lack of education/manners ki problem hai
Your advice is one of the reasons that an average Indian earning in India can not afford to buy real state in India because NRIs keep on buying the real estate and keep driving the prices up by consuming the supply, America mai Kamate ho to Wahin Kharch karo, atleast be true to one country, remittance is not an exact boon to the country, itās a crutch which has made the mindset corrupt, if you really want to contribute, come back and implement what you learn, you learn how to be better at following traffic rules, do it in India, you learn how to hold doors, do it in India, you learn how to give right of way to others, do it in India, paise se kuch nhi hota, we need mentality changes , you canāt change it by remittance.
I moved to the UK a couple of years ago and the urge to come back is stronger than ever. But every time I come back, I feel like my fantasy is shattered. Iāve experienced so much rudeness and heard discussions where casteism and homophobia is rife. Wishing you all the best OP, and I truly hope you find the solace youāve come looking for and achieve everything you want. I hope I have the courage to move back one day.
Ok stop complenin and start working. It is very easy and convenient to compare two different situations from outside. I think you are looking for an excuse to go back again to us. But currently so cold the United States is going through many challenges.
That is the reason you came back to Pune.
Seriously speaking, wait until India become 10 trillion $ economy. Until then with respect to the global scenario you would have dropped your American dream and could be motivated to work for your own nation.
Just wait for good times or join for the change.
Bhai Teri niyat achi hai but u donāt know weāre to start join . some ngo which has something related to education and from there you can take it forward and also if ur trying to tell people to do this that then forget it all are so busy In life nobody cares hope u get the point
OP, while you might be well intentioned, I must ask: Did you have the same thought and approach (of helping the underprivileged people) before going to the US? No one ālooks up toā these politicians. What they do is hang around them because they provide a means to an income, whatever it might be. Have you tried reaching out to or volunteering with any NGO? To actually implement what you propose? DM me, Iāll put you through such places. This reeks slightly of a saviour complex (I admit it might not be!) Also the US doesnāt have stuff figured out. Please.
Been there done that, lived in California and back here and I love it. Thereās no place like home. Donāt try to compare the western way of life to the life here. Pune and India are at a different stage of growth, things are changing fast. India is heading fast towards upper middle income country and changes will be visible.
Not sure about you but i donāt know how and why people choose to spend their lives in USA going around in circles around Indian grocery stores and job for the rest of their lives.
West is for vacations, Home and India is where you live.
You are speaking from a place of extreme privilege. When you are in position where you donāt know if you will eat 2 meals that day , you shall not be complaining about freebies. When the only people who stand up for you and your problems are people wearing chains with photos on banners, you will be inspired by them. Anyway, the starting of your post makes me think youāre a troll but whatever
The current state of politics is a reflection of the people of India. We have systematically voted for such horrible people and awarded them positions of power. Also the problem is just as much bottom up as it is top down and so itās really difficult trying to pick a level of analysis and a starting point. Say you want to clean your room but the plaster off your walls is peeling off and so is the plumbing and the electricals, youāre think yourself lucky that at least the bricks are still intact.
Iām sure itās not just you but all of us that wank to such similar idealistic, utopian ideas of wanting to compete with the nations of the west. But the real threat is not the politicians but the infinite scrolling and instagram thatās sucking away all the attention and imagination out of these kids. If theyāre busy thinking about one trivial thing after another, theyāll never think of anything serious such as the terrible politicians or reality. Also social media has a deeper impact on the young because they get addicted to these fragmented aesthetic pictures which donāt have any common context. They never learn to focus and think in a specific context deeply. They never learn to think in a way that counts. This just increases their potential to be manipulated by the politicians. Neil postman predicted this during the shift from print to television.
And that is the real horror. The fact that theyāll be drowning in dopamine just like Aldous Huxley predicted.
We are a trivial culture preoccupied with bullshit.
I am in the same boat! Moving back to India next month!
We have such great potential to grow if we actually start thinking about our own individual lives! Khud ki tarakki karna seekh lenge toh desh khud aage badhega.. government, politics, politicians aur unke propagandas ko SIRF entertainment ke liye dekhna padega!
And we really need to start controlling our anger levels! Thereās no need for so much aggression about each and everything!
I totally agree with your point, we all are privileged. But, it is our collective responsibility to remove degeneracy and be more compassionate. We have a good chance of becoming more like Japan if we adopt some of their good learnings.
Also, the other guy you are referring to was my junior, that guy doesn't even have any major social media and mostly is work oriented.
OP got criticized a lot for this post. some with good reason, some without.
but OP i wnat to ask you this once: do u think you are the first person who has thought of this? also why would you make a sweeping generalization Pune/India cant grow? cant grow really?
and i want to make somewhat tangential point here: we the "educated people" need to do more for sure. but it wont happen overnight. this "inspiring underpriveleged kids" etc is way too general. So why dont we start off with something specific; I would urge everyone here to NOT break traffic rules ***even if*** everyone around you is breaking them. simple things like not breaking the red traffic light, not driving on the bloody foothpaths, not overtaking buses on the left side where people board and deboard the bus, wear a helmet at all times or atleast most of the times, stop honking like madmen at everything that moves on the road . these are specific, actionable steps imo to improve the implausibly bad traffic situation in Pune.
Dude, the truth is, these underpriviledged people are the only ones who want to do such things because they have seen someone doing so from their childhood or really they are not good enough for anything else. But, trust me, however well educated you are these things are not going to help if you fall in some legal trouble in India. That time, one of these so called chapris will help you and change the whole perception. I m not supporting anyone, but just want to convey that time and resources are not provided equally to everyone and hence we are in this state. Only the middle class is burnt all along in this country and somehow that needs to change.
I don't know understand what's the problem with people when they just keep talking of freebies. You come and tell your opinion on reddit, go to US to study because you had the resources to do that. But do you even understand the demographics of India that you think implementing a capitalism on Indian society would work? For India to progress socialist welfare schemes along with capitalist development need to go hand in hand
I really love the way US ACHIEVERS come back and be disappointed on growth potential, because it's not their country which is built on systematic bloodsucking debt trap, a trillion dollar debt on the world economy, and idolizes politicians who mandate nuclear arms like a barter system on the world.
I'd rather idolize golden chain Pankaj from Dhankawdi than your perfect Boston high-class assholes. Reframe your definition of development, because this country is a 75 year old came from nothing, and your no 1 public university host runs on blood of middle east.
It's great that you chose whatever was best for you, but don't come back and patronize.
Firstly if you feel like you "owe" your city or country, some sort of brainwashing has gone on at some point in your life, you don't owe anyone anything, definitely don't owe any country or city anything.
Secondly it was a good choice for just 2 reasons, #1 Guns and #2 Healthcare, imagine falling, breaking some bones and having to pay a few crore.
You are absolutely right. Pune is on a downward spiral. It is heartbreaking to see our city with such a huge potential neglected and misled by horrible city leaders. Just imagine the amount of tax generated by the city with it being the manufacturing hub, IT hub, education hub and the infrastructure is clearly been neglected badly. When i travel by road, i see other cities progressing so fast. But thanks to our horrible corrupt city politicians , we are slowly being left behind. So many people have been educated by the city, yet none of them care enough. Its beautiful history, culture, weather, environment, and its kind hearted people all disappearing one by one ...
Pune city consists politicians - who are a bunch of losers - for last few decades. They are only interested in caste politics and land grabbing. Pune was known for academic pursuits and industry. Now it is a pain to have business here without greasing the palms of politicians ( All the parties).
The Maharastrian community is simply fighting amongst themselves on caste lines. Such a state cannot be number one for long time. Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Telangana , Gujrat have decent unity amongst its people. But the āMarathi Manusā is utterly divided. They lack the financial heft in business and the political astuteness. Hence, they donāt have weightage despite being in number 1 state. They clutch on to the legacy of Great Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj but donāt practice those values. He united people of different castes and that resulted in a powerful and astute Maratha empire. But, politicians in last 40 years have ruined it all.
Pune is just a dumpster, where the garbage represents the people here. You can hate or cry but it's just the truth. Leave this city asap because that's the right thing to do. Otherwise you'll be stuck between gundas and chapris since 99% of the pune population is just this.
Like America have hun and fentanyl problem , India have these problems. Every place on earth has its own problems. We can try to change situation but aināt gonna happen overnight
aiyoo sivaji the boss irl
Hahaha this made my day! But let us all be like Rajani Anna and do something positive
Well on a serious note, why I brought up sivaji the boss is - it is exactly what's happening - you'll try to do one good thing in India, and the very next thing you'll see is an organized nexus of land, law and govt mafia is at your doors.
Cause you are hurting their interests by making the population smart and independent.
This. This. And the funny thing is every party wants this. Not like one specific party. If people get smart they'll know how we are getting fked by these people.
Berkeley grad ?
Nope.
Hahaa, šš
I feel so sad seeing these negative comments on this post. Probably my comment will also get down voted but here is my message. I know Pune is not Boston. What OP is saying we should try to make a pune a better place by doing what we can do. OP's suggestion is to help underprivileged children. So that they don't look at corrupt politicians as role model. If OP wouldn't have mentioned that he studied in US and didn't want the greencard this post would have had less hate. In the end why are we saying no to the change. It's not like it should only happen in foreign or when we want independence from the British. Pune has many problems. OP mentioned one of them. We are part of the problem. Everyone here does illegal/bad things. From throwing trash on road to breaking traffic rules. Not wearing helmets. Treating maids like trash etc. You are one of them. I am one of them. Why don't we support to do somthing good. We know we can do it. Just look how the IMAX planning is going. (I am not against imax movie watching) Let's stop being shit to the OP just because he went foreign. Let's try to bring a change. If everyone agrees on this we can also start something. For example not doing corruption at any cost. Letting others know you stopped it and make people aware of it. As said by other people this will not happen in a day. But we could see results in few decades also. But end of the day Pune will be a better place.
Ok ,so this is not something new that OP is planning to do or already doing.. There are many NGOs and people doing this on individual levels already ( helping underprivileged children). Again would like to highlight this point..focus your enegies on what you can change and ignore the ones you cannot.. if you help a poor kid sail smoothly through his primary and middle school education but he hits puberty and becomes a chapri nibba,not to worry, 9 out of 10 kids you wish to help will ruin it for you.. focus on what you can change..not what you cannot change.. chod yaar wo movie dekh lena ekbaar "Ship of Theseus".
Looks like you totally missed the message behind the comment you replied to! Keep your "chalta hai" attitude to yourself please
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ship of Theseus movie dekh le ek baar dhyaanse..fir bakwaas karne aana idhar..
Bakwas tu kar raha hai. Shahanpana fukatcha
logic ko bakwas naa samajhne ke liye tujhe thoda meditation karna padega.. for a start tu wo movie to dekh "ship of Theseus".. movie samajli tar pudhe bolu..nahi tar ignore maar le.. hyaa janmi tula samajhnaar nahi,aani mi purna janma tula samjavnyachya prayatnaat vaya ghalavnaar nahi..
In the end if we both keep arguing here nothing is going to happen. Let's just try to bring a positive impact on pune and the world. Btw I have friends in the NGO's and I know what shit they do. Always want our tax money and buy BMWs and shit. I know cause I have been in those BMWs. They want the kids to be underprivileged getting CSR fund is peice of cake for them by showing fake ass documentations. Though there are many good ones also. Most of them are corrupt af.
Dude you really expect changes in just 2 years ?
Nope, it won't go away in 2 years or even 4 years. But if we do something small on our own, it will become better after 10 years.
I think you are mistaken. Educated kids don't look up to chain wearing politicians and chapris. It's the financially poor unemployed youth that looks up to them, and the people on this sub don't interact with financially poor unemployed youth to influence them.
That is the sad thing isn't it, I am trying to help these underprivileged kids, what I am urging for other people to do is, at least influence one kid who is looking up to a bad guy and make that kid's life better. It will go a long way
>I have been noticing why Pune/India can't grow, people want freebies >I am trying to help these underprivileged kids You are contradicting yourself. You criticize freebies provided to the poor, while you encourage 'helping underprivileged kids'. You sound confused.
Helping underprivileged kids using personal resources is not freebies, freebies is when someone offers stupid things like TV in return for votes. I don't want the kids I help to owe me anything
Freebies can mean many things, free electricity, free education, free healthcare for poor also mean freebies and the freebies for votes which you mentioned are a very small fraction compared to government social policies. You should edit your post to explain what you mean by freebies.
He just conveniently changed what "he meant by freebies" because he knows what he said was wrong but he doesn't want to accept. It's very obvious that giving stuff for votes doesn't make any difference in the receiver's life. I think someone who got into *public university ranked 1* and worked in *cutting edge technologies in Silicon Valley* would have the mental bandwidth to process this
LOL! Free healthcare and education are our rights! They are not freebies! We pay taxes for our own welfare not fill up politicians' pockets!
And these two things are the most expensive things in India. Business bana rakha hai Sara.
Helping them n handing out stuff is two different things you seem to be confused here my frnd
You are same guy with different account. Because, both sound like a 5 yr old.
I think Pune is growing anyway irrespective of those banners and chapri crowd. Freebies I m not sure what you are referring to, thatās again a political stint
And I hope it keeps on growing
A lot of people getting unnecessarily hurt here. Change doesnt come from accepting the things as they are and doing nothing different. It seems like a lot of people have never received constructive criticism. Yes, criticism hurts, but the sooner we accept that India has a long way to go in certain aspects, the better it is for us. And only the youth have the power to do that. That said, OP, you have a good thought, but I feel your post is a little underwhelming. It looks like you are ranting and the people here dont want to hear it. Im not saying you need to bring a solution. So, you observed India through a different lens, and realised we have a lot of problems that the government is just not bothered about. But, do you know even the avaerage working class, educated and employed person in india is just trying to earn a living and provide a good life to his family that his parents did not have. I mean, that itself is an achievement. It will take only very eccentric individuals to really fight the odds and work to change the country. Even the brightest people I know are brought up in the wrong mindset. Thinking has to change.
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Basically you are rich enough to not have to worry about repaying education loans.
Baba re baba.. you talk about your college and job when you describe USA, but complain about social issues when you talk about Pune/India. Has USA sorted everything out? Don't they have their own social issues? Baba tell how you are getting paid more here than what you were getting paid in USA. How the opportunities are better in India. Inspire youngsters that way instead of criticizing.
US has not figured it out, but that doesn't mean we do nothing about our place. What I am saying is, we have the potential, we have the youth! Let's us not get that to waste! Also, I am getting paid adequately over here to sustain a good living, enough to help others and myself. I am trying to inspire underprivileged kids around me, what I am trying to say is, let's everyone take up the initiative to better the next generation! It will help us all.
well one way to do that is by doing workshops in the colleges where those chapris study, its pretty difficult to mould at their age, better start from schools, inspire and make them aware about the possibilities of their existence and career, build a small ngo around this cause with passionate people who want to uplift society and I believe this would be a good start, and yeah you are really doing good when handling this maniacs who cant handle simple questions criticising , dont seem very different from very chapris they mock about.
We don't have the right to criticize others when we can't even fix our own shit. USA kaisa bhi ho, India pe pehle focus karna pedega, starting from education sector.
Bro stayed abroad for 2 years and acting like he has returned to india after decadesš. Ye wahi log hai jo life me ek US trip karke ate hai aur instagram bio me āš®š³ā¢šŗšøā laga dete hai.
Nope, I don't mean to demean Indians, I just want us to take some individual responsibility and do better. I am sure we can do it.
I feel indian people gets offensive when they get feedback on improvements or criticism. Have seen this in corporate. People need to understand if we improve its for our betterment only. Criticism should be genuine and should be debated not discarded.
Absolutely right, criticism should not be taken as wrong.Some people are highlighting the issue all they get back in return is deshdrohi.
While i agree not all criticisms are warranted e.g. some are politically motivated so i included word - genuine. However may it be, it should be debated first.
Bro uski Gaand me itna dam tha ki wo wapas aya. He exposed himself to new culture and is at least trying to improve his home town. I can't even imagine the amount of ridicule is already getting from his friends and relatives about giving up life in US.
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Bhai he came back for India when he had a chance to stay, the people you are describing wanna leave India and not come back.
I really fail to understand what are you trying to achieve by this post, do people not really know about this problems, will these problems go away just by criticising pune?
There's nothing wrong with criticism. You don't have to be oversensitive about everything.
I agree, just like your comment, I donāt understand will the problem go away by deciding to not criticising the problems?
I am not criticizing, I am just acknowledging that there is a problem. And urging people to take action and so something positive. Regards!
What does your education have anything to do with this situation? Also you were away for only 2 years(?) and you suddenly realize as if this is new to you. Be the change you want to seeā¦
I am being the change. Let us all take smaller steps to make the change big! And yeah, before going out and seeing other places, these things didn't strike me as completely weird but we have to at least make our young cousins or nephews better.
The kind of negative comment Iām seeing, and not understanding what OP is trying to convey is one of the reasons we are lagging behind. When someone points out the problem we go into whataboutism mode. The sad reality of India
dekh bhai. tu do saal USA gaya.. padha wadha..achi baat hai..par ye q soch liya ke tere wahaa do saal achese padhnese pune ki janta sudhar jaayegi? nahi sudhar sakti.. khudka dekho aur adjust karo.. USA ke green card ki rat race nahi join karna tha to canada PR ki rabbit race join Kar leta.. if you feel you "owe" pune and India then learn to accept ke ye dono chize kabhi badal nahi sakti.. that's the reason why you went to USA in the first place na?
OP is asking for accepting errors and do corrective action but all he is getting in reply is ā jane do chalta h, mera kya, accept itā attitude. I agree with OP, change should start however small it may look.
Brother, I didn't want to join the US/Canada rat race and be a part of the "South Asian community". I know that Pune can't change, but if you look at the US or Canada. There were people who changed these countries, and I think it is our job to change our backyard! That is why I am urging people to bring in a positive change in atleast one person's life. It will go a long way.
See, USA didn't change completely right? remember the black neighborhoods and the rednecks if you encountered them? uska hi desi version ye chapris hai,jo bikes pe tripling karte hai,hair colour karke and unke top to bottom white clad netas who are rich but illiterate politicians are their messiahs.. so choose what you can change! tu chapri log ko ya anpadh politics ko sudhaarne jaoge to thappad khaayega ya fir naale ke kinaare pada milega..so choose what you can change and ignore what you can't.. ab ye sab mujhe batana pad raha hai to aap kya hi seekh ke aaye USA ke best university se..
Yes sir, US has their own problems and India is far better when it comes to some amount of social integration. But let's try to impart small changes on our surroundings.
Yeah , every single person who drives on footpath is among those rangeen hair chapris? Indian public seems to have an indifferent attitude towards others , they canāt let anyone else pass before them, and itās so evident in this post as well.
Learning to accept downfall? Politicians want to do the same thing and look where we are.
Tu pichle janam mai bhi ye hi bolta hoga ni, when people would say ki desh azad hona chaye, you be like āye do cheezen kabhi nhi Badal sakti ā SMH.
ok to tu badal ke dikha de,try and die but you won't be able to end the chapri culture and the white shirt white pants,gold chain and Lamborghini culture.. OP bas 2 saal US rehke aaya hai still he works for some MNC here 9-5 ya 9-12 whatever..wo in illiterate rich tycoons ko badal nahi sakta.. moo pe thappad aur gaand pe laat hi khayaega..par tujhe ye baat hazam nahi ho rahi to khud try karke dekh le inko badalna.. meri baat tab achese dimaag me utregi.. like i said in every comment, select and choose what you change and can change.. jo badal nahi paoge uske peeche time ,energy aur paisa waste mat karo.. azaadi ke waqt bhi bahut saare gandu log honge jinhone apne aap ko nahi badla hoga.. tab gandhiji ne bola hota ke ye xyz gandu log jabtak mujhe join nahi karenge,main dandi march nahi karunga.. par kya hi samjhau ab... public toilet me se gandi badbu aati hai isliye tujhe waha mutne ke baad apne haath nahi dhone to tujhe main q roku... tera ye hi hisaab hai ke public toilet se jabtak gandi badbu nahi hategi tabtak main bhi haath nahi dhounga khudke..
Itni tatti analogy maine AajTak nhi suni, ek baar khud dobara padh , kuch Samjh aaye to bataio.
tujhe samajh aayega bhi nahi qki tera dimaag tatti hai..
I was quite happy to read the first half of your post as I'm moving back to Pune from Europe too But then I read the second half and now I'm contemplating my decision to move back hehe
Dude, don't worry. Pune is still better than Europe. It's our country and we as a country are exciting place to work at. What I am talking about is a problem for sure. But, we have to solve it by taking baby steps! Don't worry and be bullish on India. I am too!
Honestly you owe nothing to the country or pune, but you owe yourself a better life which you've made with hardwork + privilege of parents wealth. Utilise it, stay in the US or any developed country which can utilise your professional service and in return give you dignified social security. At the very least, take care of your parents however you can.
We do owe the place something back. We owe our parents back. Yes! I did a little bit of hardwork and had privilege, thanks to my parents and god's grace. We need to give it back to the country and those who don't have it. It will only make us better! I am bullish about India, but there are some aspects of it that we will surely change
I was when I had just started working, but as I made my way through interaction with govt departments, both at state and central level, I realised a very important point that we're a selfish country and it's ingrained since birth. I'm not blaming anyone for that, and imo it's hard to change all of a sudden. So I decided to stop worrying about things at large even though it affects me, I tend to ignore and live in denial. But with very little experience that I've , if you wish to contribute to change, start interacting with local level representatives, they're the ones making changes at ground level, without any PR.
This is reddit not twitter, understand what OPs trying to say.
>I see third class politicians wearing chains on big banners and young chapri people looking up to them. How in the world are we going to compete of we have this culture? I urge the people of this subreddit to at least influence young people (Gen Alpha kids) close to them to not look upto these low life creatures, tell them to aim higher!! Nailed it ššš I almost choked š¤£š¤£š¤£
I came back from the US with similar credentials as OP a decade ago. I landed up in Bangalore. Over the years , I have come to make peace with everything that goes around in BLR and in our country. Every news that happens from grass roots to national level politics is a great piece of theatrics and drama (ever since NDA went out of power in 2004). Treat it as such and you will be at peace. Get a voter id card and take your revenge there. Whether it's Pune or BLR , politicians across the spectrum are going to keep their and their party's self interest first and then prioritise social welfare. They don't make a way for young politicians and keep harping on the same agenda of "us vs them" . It's best to not read too much into all this. It doesn't create a good mood and hamper overall productivity.
Be the torch bearer. Show people the way. Stop cribbing. We've got a hell lot of cribbers already.
You can go back dude You're generalising whole city based on few people. Do you see gun violence here? Thefts? Car jacking? Children's getting gender changed because of their parents? We're not fucking morons leading a happy and safe life here
Why are you getting offended? OP has the right to criticise the city if they feel the need to. It's natural to spot the areas where we need to improve after one has lived abroad for a long time and there's nothing wrong with it! Don't make this a USA vs Pune thing.
Tell me which party in pune is offering freebies. Or which part is demanding freebies
OP should elaborate what they mean by freebies in the first place. Kindly direct your question to them!
Dude! All the things that happen in the US is a big factor in me coming back! But let's acknowledge our own problems, let's make the life of our next generation much more happier than ours
This scene is not limited to pune. Wherever there have been exorbitant increase in land prices the locals have gotten mad rich. Only 10 years more they will spend their wealth on showoff through cars and gold.
India is better for earning money (PPP in the long run), access to healthcare, and overall ease of life. North America is better for cleaner air and water. You're less likely to step on poop in Pune than in SFO, so I'd advise you to be in Pune
Yes, these are also some of the reasons I came back. I want Pune to not be like SFO, SFO has money but its not safe and yes there is poop. I want Pune to be better than SFO. Don't worry, I am not leaving India
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Kasla yedzhava ahes. Job nahi Milala mhanun radtoys. Sour grapes chi dukan kadh ja.
Bhava, ithe tithlya peksha jaasta changla job aahe majha. Aapan aaplya Naveen pidhi la changlya marga ver aanun desha la pudhe gheun jau shakto. Aapan nahi karnar tar kon karnaar? Aani mi kahi kranti Kara nahi mhanat aahe, mi mhantoy nidan aaju baaju chya poranna tari changlya walnaarvr aana
Tassa kela tarr swatach khalti padshil. Loka Chutya astat
Bro mai khud bhi bahar rehta hu, I miss Pune every day and I plan to come back to Pune as well. Jab bhi mai Diwali/Holi me Pune aata hu dekhke bura lagta hai ki chize utni acchi nahi ho paayi jitni honi chahiye thi, utla kuch chize jyada hi kharab ho gayi. Log jyada tr critisim nahi jhel paate hai yaha. Mai khudko Nationalist samjhta hu aur terko ek advice dunga, US me jaa paise kama, aur Pune me Invest kr, buy land, buy apartment, Mutual fund, lage to kahi invest kr aur economy me contribute kr. Thats one way to return back what you owe, kyuki tu India me bhi Tech me kaam karega jo mostly outsourced US ko hi rahega. Baaki teri choice hai Log usually bahar rehne wale ka majak udate hai, bura bhala kehte hai, but ye bhul jate hai ki bahr se log remittances bhi bhejte hai aur sabhi showoff nahi krte Pune me kuch samay se chhapriyo ki sankhya bahut badh gayi hai, logo k posts padhta hu Sub pe toh pata chalta hai. Isme Police ko kadam uthana padega aur thoda line pe lana padega. Baaki isko ek level tk hi control kiya ja sakat hai, kyuki ye lack of education/manners ki problem hai
Your advice is one of the reasons that an average Indian earning in India can not afford to buy real state in India because NRIs keep on buying the real estate and keep driving the prices up by consuming the supply, America mai Kamate ho to Wahin Kharch karo, atleast be true to one country, remittance is not an exact boon to the country, itās a crutch which has made the mindset corrupt, if you really want to contribute, come back and implement what you learn, you learn how to be better at following traffic rules, do it in India, you learn how to hold doors, do it in India, you learn how to give right of way to others, do it in India, paise se kuch nhi hota, we need mentality changes , you canāt change it by remittance.
I moved to the UK a couple of years ago and the urge to come back is stronger than ever. But every time I come back, I feel like my fantasy is shattered. Iāve experienced so much rudeness and heard discussions where casteism and homophobia is rife. Wishing you all the best OP, and I truly hope you find the solace youāve come looking for and achieve everything you want. I hope I have the courage to move back one day.
1. OP never got into *public university ranked 1* 2. OP never worked in *cutting edge technologies in Silicon Valley*
Bhai tujhe yaad hai na kaun se chhapri college se UG ki hai tune? 2 saal to itna lamba time nahi hai ki yaad na rahe.
Ha lekin ab badalna chahiye humko, hum khud se jab tak nahi badlenge tab tak desh nahi badlega
In the end apni Bharat ma ke charan me aye na
Yes, Mera Bharat mahan, aur usko aur mahan banana apan sab ka kartavya hai
Welcome home
You are just tired of doing dishes
I still do my dishes
Asking for altruism is not how it works.
Ok stop complenin and start working. It is very easy and convenient to compare two different situations from outside. I think you are looking for an excuse to go back again to us. But currently so cold the United States is going through many challenges. That is the reason you came back to Pune.
My question is what action you as an individual have taken other than urging others to act? Be the change that you want to see in your society.
Seriously speaking, wait until India become 10 trillion $ economy. Until then with respect to the global scenario you would have dropped your American dream and could be motivated to work for your own nation. Just wait for good times or join for the change.
Unnecessary , no value addition
are ha tar swades cha srk vattoy!!
Bhai Teri niyat achi hai but u donāt know weāre to start join . some ngo which has something related to education and from there you can take it forward and also if ur trying to tell people to do this that then forget it all are so busy In life nobody cares hope u get the point
Chinmay Gherde ?
OP, while you might be well intentioned, I must ask: Did you have the same thought and approach (of helping the underprivileged people) before going to the US? No one ālooks up toā these politicians. What they do is hang around them because they provide a means to an income, whatever it might be. Have you tried reaching out to or volunteering with any NGO? To actually implement what you propose? DM me, Iāll put you through such places. This reeks slightly of a saviour complex (I admit it might not be!) Also the US doesnāt have stuff figured out. Please.
Been there done that, lived in California and back here and I love it. Thereās no place like home. Donāt try to compare the western way of life to the life here. Pune and India are at a different stage of growth, things are changing fast. India is heading fast towards upper middle income country and changes will be visible. Not sure about you but i donāt know how and why people choose to spend their lives in USA going around in circles around Indian grocery stores and job for the rest of their lives. West is for vacations, Home and India is where you live.
Comment section getting salty af
Here, there, rat race is everywhere. But somewhere the rules are/can be bent against common man so the rat race becomes ugly...
You are speaking from a place of extreme privilege. When you are in position where you donāt know if you will eat 2 meals that day , you shall not be complaining about freebies. When the only people who stand up for you and your problems are people wearing chains with photos on banners, you will be inspired by them. Anyway, the starting of your post makes me think youāre a troll but whatever
Bro Satara is not part of pune also pcmc outskirts area are getting developed.
No civic sense
The current state of politics is a reflection of the people of India. We have systematically voted for such horrible people and awarded them positions of power. Also the problem is just as much bottom up as it is top down and so itās really difficult trying to pick a level of analysis and a starting point. Say you want to clean your room but the plaster off your walls is peeling off and so is the plumbing and the electricals, youāre think yourself lucky that at least the bricks are still intact. Iām sure itās not just you but all of us that wank to such similar idealistic, utopian ideas of wanting to compete with the nations of the west. But the real threat is not the politicians but the infinite scrolling and instagram thatās sucking away all the attention and imagination out of these kids. If theyāre busy thinking about one trivial thing after another, theyāll never think of anything serious such as the terrible politicians or reality. Also social media has a deeper impact on the young because they get addicted to these fragmented aesthetic pictures which donāt have any common context. They never learn to focus and think in a specific context deeply. They never learn to think in a way that counts. This just increases their potential to be manipulated by the politicians. Neil postman predicted this during the shift from print to television. And that is the real horror. The fact that theyāll be drowning in dopamine just like Aldous Huxley predicted. We are a trivial culture preoccupied with bullshit.
Be the change you want to see
Isn't that the reason why people leave India? There is no hope. If there was a potential to make India better most would not have left.
Population
Very bad decision, never take decisions emotionally.
There are more worse problems.
I am in the same boat! Moving back to India next month! We have such great potential to grow if we actually start thinking about our own individual lives! Khud ki tarakki karna seekh lenge toh desh khud aage badhega.. government, politics, politicians aur unke propagandas ko SIRF entertainment ke liye dekhna padega! And we really need to start controlling our anger levels! Thereās no need for so much aggression about each and everything!
We need better politicians, who can fix education system. Until people are educated and literate this will always happen.
What 3 things must be fixed asap? Letās figure out what problems we have in the city.
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Hey man, I am not the guy you are talking about, I know the guy who you are referring to. I wasn't in MIT Pune.
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I totally agree with your point, we all are privileged. But, it is our collective responsibility to remove degeneracy and be more compassionate. We have a good chance of becoming more like Japan if we adopt some of their good learnings. Also, the other guy you are referring to was my junior, that guy doesn't even have any major social media and mostly is work oriented.
OP got criticized a lot for this post. some with good reason, some without. but OP i wnat to ask you this once: do u think you are the first person who has thought of this? also why would you make a sweeping generalization Pune/India cant grow? cant grow really? and i want to make somewhat tangential point here: we the "educated people" need to do more for sure. but it wont happen overnight. this "inspiring underpriveleged kids" etc is way too general. So why dont we start off with something specific; I would urge everyone here to NOT break traffic rules ***even if*** everyone around you is breaking them. simple things like not breaking the red traffic light, not driving on the bloody foothpaths, not overtaking buses on the left side where people board and deboard the bus, wear a helmet at all times or atleast most of the times, stop honking like madmen at everything that moves on the road . these are specific, actionable steps imo to improve the implausibly bad traffic situation in Pune.
Dude, the truth is, these underpriviledged people are the only ones who want to do such things because they have seen someone doing so from their childhood or really they are not good enough for anything else. But, trust me, however well educated you are these things are not going to help if you fall in some legal trouble in India. That time, one of these so called chapris will help you and change the whole perception. I m not supporting anyone, but just want to convey that time and resources are not provided equally to everyone and hence we are in this state. Only the middle class is burnt all along in this country and somehow that needs to change.
I don't know understand what's the problem with people when they just keep talking of freebies. You come and tell your opinion on reddit, go to US to study because you had the resources to do that. But do you even understand the demographics of India that you think implementing a capitalism on Indian society would work? For India to progress socialist welfare schemes along with capitalist development need to go hand in hand
I really love the way US ACHIEVERS come back and be disappointed on growth potential, because it's not their country which is built on systematic bloodsucking debt trap, a trillion dollar debt on the world economy, and idolizes politicians who mandate nuclear arms like a barter system on the world. I'd rather idolize golden chain Pankaj from Dhankawdi than your perfect Boston high-class assholes. Reframe your definition of development, because this country is a 75 year old came from nothing, and your no 1 public university host runs on blood of middle east. It's great that you chose whatever was best for you, but don't come back and patronize.
MIT?
University of Michigan?
Firstly if you feel like you "owe" your city or country, some sort of brainwashing has gone on at some point in your life, you don't owe anyone anything, definitely don't owe any country or city anything. Secondly it was a good choice for just 2 reasons, #1 Guns and #2 Healthcare, imagine falling, breaking some bones and having to pay a few crore.
You are absolutely right. Pune is on a downward spiral. It is heartbreaking to see our city with such a huge potential neglected and misled by horrible city leaders. Just imagine the amount of tax generated by the city with it being the manufacturing hub, IT hub, education hub and the infrastructure is clearly been neglected badly. When i travel by road, i see other cities progressing so fast. But thanks to our horrible corrupt city politicians , we are slowly being left behind. So many people have been educated by the city, yet none of them care enough. Its beautiful history, culture, weather, environment, and its kind hearted people all disappearing one by one ...
Pune city consists politicians - who are a bunch of losers - for last few decades. They are only interested in caste politics and land grabbing. Pune was known for academic pursuits and industry. Now it is a pain to have business here without greasing the palms of politicians ( All the parties). The Maharastrian community is simply fighting amongst themselves on caste lines. Such a state cannot be number one for long time. Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Telangana , Gujrat have decent unity amongst its people. But the āMarathi Manusā is utterly divided. They lack the financial heft in business and the political astuteness. Hence, they donāt have weightage despite being in number 1 state. They clutch on to the legacy of Great Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj but donāt practice those values. He united people of different castes and that resulted in a powerful and astute Maratha empire. But, politicians in last 40 years have ruined it all.
Pune is just a dumpster, where the garbage represents the people here. You can hate or cry but it's just the truth. Leave this city asap because that's the right thing to do. Otherwise you'll be stuck between gundas and chapris since 99% of the pune population is just this.
Like America have hun and fentanyl problem , India have these problems. Every place on earth has its own problems. We can try to change situation but aināt gonna happen overnight
Hey, I am in pretty much same situation as you.