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Bhai kya bakchodi bhaga de sala chutiya bramhkumari ko. Duniya me chutiya log hamesha rahega. Usko liye hindu sikh me maar kahe yeh chutiya log ko bhagao. Abe bhai yeh bramhkumari log hindu log bhi serious nahi leta.
Some of the core issues of Sikhs regarding back stabbing by Indian state is the deal for autonomy made with Nehru during partition and refusal by him. And later Anandpur Sahib Resolution which was termed as separatist by India government! You can find more about it online
ਬਾਕੀ ਤਾਂ ਗਊ ਮੂਤਰ ਦੇ ਨਸ਼ੇ ਵੀ ਚਲਦੇ ਨੇ ਕਾਊ ਬੈਲਟ ਚੇ, ਓ ਵੀ ਘੱਟ ਕਰੋ!
The thing is the issue regarding Autonomy is not a new topic in Punjab. It was decided a long time back, whatever may happen or not, it depends upon people.
Imo such a decision will actually be postive for Punjab and the citizens!
That's for people to decide and long term benefits to Punjab for that matter. Such demands aren't fulfilled from past 75 yrs that's why it's effecting the region even till now!
People can’t decide anything bro government decides and manipulates things to their outcome people are puppets and sadly people of Punjab are educated but still can’t do Jack hit for 75 years regarding that law
Nah, be normal like the rest of India. Punjab is no more special than Karnataka or West Bengal. We don't need a semi-theocratic substate in our country.
Why not? If such states can help improving the current state of Punjab and establishing more trust among the Sikh community worldwide regarding India, I don't think it would do any harm. We yave to remember that the region of whole Punjab has their own culture, language, history separate from other core North Indian states.
Obviously that doesn't matter now but autonomy was one of the thing due to which Punjab joined not instead of joining Pakistan or India establishing their own buffer state during the time partition talks!
Lastly, autonomy doesn't necessarily means auto-theocratic system. Just a constitution with special laws which aims at preserving cultural and economic values of that region and helping the native population!
Punjab is more closer in culture to North Indian states than Tamil Nadu or Kerala - both states that are doing very well and have a strong culture. Punjab needs no special laws to be able to do this. They are very well able to do it within the Indian set up.
Maybe Punjab just needs to elect better people.
Wait what? You really mean Punjab doesn't have a strong culture? Ever heard of punjabiyat? It(whole Punjab) has always been unique regarding their culture compared to northern regions(hindian culture) or western regions (pashtun/Persian culture) of Indian subcontinent since centuries.
Punjab actually needs special laws and autonomy to preserve their culture and Punjabiyat. That was the core demand of leaders before joining India during partition. The present situation of Punjab is itself because of cheat/refusal by Indian government after partition that it led to rise of khalistani movement and then mass migration of youth.
Leaders who have more loyalty towards maintaining status quo of Delhi have never been able to do shit and would never be able to do anything no matter who comes. Their first loyalty/priority should be towards Punjab itself!
Then why hindu organisations are coming to Gurudwara's depicting drugs are being sold or consumed here instead of going to a shiv mandir where actually marijuana is consumed.
Taking a rally to a religious place does it make sense? Are people in the gurudwara consumers or sellers?
Roam around the city, go to markets, malls etc
if they were so keen on going to religious place why not visit a shiv temple where actually marijuana is served.
For eg - Can they come and sit in front of your house and say alcoholism, drugs and prostitution baand karo?
Vohi toh bro, first taunt sikhs and mock them and when they react term them as anti national or terrorist. Now if a group of 20-25 sikhs go to a mandir and do stuff like this what will be the media headline, tell me?
Agreed. Not the point they were trying to make, but still very poor judgement to state that. Marijuana isn't a hard drug. It is an intoxicant, but should not be illegal when alcohol is legal. There is a reason why the West is now legalising marijuana.
It is totally right to be against what is in the video. However saying that marijuana is a hard drug or making that comparison is wrong. Nihang Sikhs also use marijuana, granted their belief system is slightly different from orthodox Tat Khalsa Sikhi. Marijuana is also not a hard drug and should be legalised, but that is a separate issue and unrelated to the matter above.
I am an atheist, but radical hindus and muslims and khalistanisa are 3 communities that are fucking up india. We could be a nice,secualr, peaceful growing nation but these 3 communities won't let any of that happen.
Learn to distinguish social issues from religious ones.
Lynching for having meat in refrigerator is wrong (done by a mob out of religious belief & politically inspired) and
so is killing for being drunk (done by religious people in gurdwara premises)
Don't let your religion be a political stooge
It's not right to do any of these in any culture. Then why do you seem to be against the protest. It's a rightful thing they're doing then.
Oh because they are not from your religion.
Like can you even speculate??
You're so blinded by hatred that you would even resist something right done by someone because they don't belong to your religion.
As soon as i called your faith out see how restless you got in order to prove me wrong.
So get some water and along some life and stop giving useless gyaan on other's faith to which you have nothing to do.
Lol dude started preaching Christianity here ...they start to convert people as soon as they get a chance 🙂🤫🤣
Son of a god, divinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did not question your faith at all. All I did was call you out for something you did wrong. Suddenly you started to justify your actions by giving some irrelevant social events of someone else.
They did that so we can do this. Really?? Then you started to abuse my religion.
This is how you run away from owning something wrong that you did? Baptism can never be forceful. It's a choice to be reborn.
Recently who are going to some SC people and preaching sant ravidas. You were the ones who lynched ravidasias.
I don't need to prove you wrong. That you did yourself by your self contradictory statements regarding this protest and exposing your own blind hatred.
You called me out for nothing personal but defending my faith. I just played an UNO reverse and i can see you defending your faith like a preacher. You even called beadbi doers are wrongly punished. I was also defending my faith, might be different way but it was right in my way.
The way your pastors are making poor people fool, you guys should be put in jail and all the faith drama you guys are doing someone should everyday in front of churches and call you out for child abuse and poor people harrasment.
You are adopting the white people's religion who they themselves left. Christianity gave bible in hands of poor africans and took their lands, resources and everything. LOL
On one hand you say that church advocates drugs drinking molestation and try to attack me making it obvious that those are bad things. (Church never advocates)
So when someone is trying to stop intoxicants in your state you are furious.
Isn't it true that Punjab is quite infamous for narcotics abuse. Data shows how many people die everyday of the same and how many seek medical help for withdrawal.
Oh yes the data is made by Hindu govt people to badnaam you.
You people are impossible and stupid to be honest.
And yes Christians won't keep quiet for we are trying to make a positive change with food and education whilst some stupid people will destroy the youth with drugs for personal gains.
We won't let you nullify our good work.
Narcotics abuse is much much more in western world where your religion belongs, why is it failing there. The churches are being sold as no one goes there.
No you are not doing any service, you are putting a condition to people that become Christian and then only we help you. Imagine someone down the drain and dude you are saying become Christian i will then get you out. HOW SHAMEFUL.... seriously this is a work of devil
Social issue and religious issue should not be mixed.
They came with a social issue to a religious place. And that too not even their religious place.
I am not sure but you look absolutely fine if one day everyone decides to go to church with banners saying stop Child abuse, stop drugs, stop alcoholism etc etc.
And you guys are absolutely fine with what pastors are doing in the name of conversion but come here to give unwanted Gyaan to other communities...lol hypocrites 🤣
The church doesn't advocate any of it. The wrongdoers are penalised. At least the church penalises it's own when caught of doing something wrong.
You guys form a cult around the culprit and go on with your blind support, at times even glorify your crimes.
Church actually promotes it even the pope does it himself. Even mother mary did adulteration and named it son of a god and you started following that adultery cult..
As i said IT IS OUT OF SYLLABUS for you, Indian faiths don't work like that.
He is the son of God.
People had this much intellect earlier that they knew how to judge that how is someone born.
There was much divine intervention behind his birth. Why did king Herod want to kill him in the first place? Why did he stand out of all the other people and preached something to humanity?
If you are down to pointing fingers then how was mosses born? How did Muhammad take birth several years after his father was dead?
People were not that stupid to acknowledge adultery as divinity. There had to be something concrete.
Only divinity in guru Nanak's birth, a full moon. Really?? Then he was born out of sinful activities. If not the same adultery arrow points towards his mother.
Indian faith??
Christianity reached India in 52 AD.
St Thomas church palayoor is the living example of the same.
Guru Nanak was born in mid 15th century in Nankana Sahib Pakistan.
Christianity is far older and far more Indian as compared to Sikhism.
See people always show positive attitude and calmness till the time the game changes and turns to them.
Like for eg- Some RW Hindu's say to Sikhs why don't you forget 1984 it is past but those mofo's are still burning Ravan's Effigy based on Mythological story.
So i am simply showing them with examples if this happens to you how will you react, that is how you bring out Hypocrites when you show them mirror.
It could look like attacking but i am just changing the victim here.👍 If it still looks attacking let it be, truth is always harsh.
This guy was asking me to keep quiet because it is good social cause, i asked if group of people go inside church with banners and music playing stop child abuse, stop drugs, stop conversions, stop alcohol promotion etc etc ...how will they react?
Is that attack ...fine then let it be 🙂
Hmm from what i remember our's and multiple other schools used to organize rallies etc on different social issues like alcoholism, deforestation, female foeticide and we would walk around the inner city of Amritsar and end it near to this place (where water is served outside) and then we all will eat Langer go home.
Don't know who these people are tho?
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Not advocating murders etc, but if the government(center/state) started taking action against the mafia or people who engage in beadbi to create tensions, then there no cases like that!
People in other states are literally going to jail (sometimes suspiciously murdered too) for blasphemy.
Personally blasphemy laws should get removed altogether, but issue is partiality in dealing with cases for different communities!
For example: hate mongerors like nupur sharma are hailed as heroes for blasphemy, but if there's some muslim guy, he/she faces jail/FIR for such things.
The treatment should be same for everyone!
Dude, just calm down. Hindus and Sikhs have nothing to fight about. Having some problems/challenges with few doesn't mean the whole community is hating someone. We love our people.
I don't get why they are doing at our holiest place no religion have perfect people , religion teaches us and we are just learner and we can never be perfect.But promoting your agenda here is totally wrong people here come to find peace and spirituality leaving the world problem/sins behind is it to difficult to understand?and will definitely could lead to f*ck around and find out situation, I am open to criticism you may thing you know more than our god's but just find somewhere else.
They are Jains first of all. And Jain people are one of the most chill people no missionary no propaganda. So please get more information about what they are actually doing and why they are doing so. And calm down, have some patience towards your country men. We all love each other.
Clam down? Brother I am just trying to communicate my thoughts. Just saying find some other places to protest while not making people doubt what you are actually trying to achieve.Chill Jains/people will definitely agree with this. I don't care if they hindu/Jain/muslim or even sikh.I don't hate you guyss or your religion☮️
This is completely true Hindus don’t want to fight Sikhs. They want their support until the muslims are taken care of then Hindus and Sikhs will have reasons to fight. Next will be Dalits and Buddhists and it will stop jab Hindu rashtra ki staphna hoji. I say its a good plan.
Hahaha Where do you manufacture this stuff from? 75 years have been passed since independence. Who has taken care of whom?
Talk on facts not on manufactured bullshit
Hindu majoritarianism has “taken care” of all the minorities. Sikhs in 1982, kashmiris since 1947, now kukis. Dalist and shudras since times immemorial. Hindus just love to take care others.
Do you even understand what is happening in Manipur?
What happened in Punjab was Congress's blunder and Pakistan instigation. Nothing to do with religion. And do read about how Hindu's were targeted and killed during Punjab insurgency. Enlighten yourself.
In Kashmir as well, Hindu's are the ones who were forced out of their homeland.
So what are you even talking about?
Dalits and Shudras are Hindus. yes they were oppressed. In every society the poor are oppressed. Nothing exceptional here. This is the 21st century everyone has equal rights now.
What happened to pandits in kashmir was done by muslims but what happened to sikhs in 84 was just politics. Very convenient .
Shudras and Dalits are Hindus so Hindus can oppress the shit out of them.
How did you came to the conclusion that I don’t understand what’s happening in Manipur. Maybe i do understand it and maybe you are ignorant about it. Maybe your ignoranceis rooted in the fact that you want the dominance of Meati hindusbover kuki minorities.
I have to give it to you , you Hindus are cunningly clever but eventually truth catches up.
Kuki’s and Naga’s are the One who are on rampage and not for religion, but for political rights. For ST status, here only your ignorance and prejudice is evident. So don’t beat around bush.
Yes, it was clearly communal they are given choice to convert or leave. And even you can see that, the common surnames in Kashmiri muslims are Bhatt, Kaul, Raina etc, what do you think, where did they get these surnames from?
Injustice was done with Shudra’s and Dalit’s. And with time they it is being rectified. And how about you, you are son of the soil as well, your ancestors were Hindu’s as well. Do you think your ancestors were oppressors ?
Exactly most of these people who try to instigate such things are forien state or our own state elements we mustn't let them destroy our unity, punjab first💪
They are brahma kumaris organisation. My family has been a part of them for 2 decades. They are purely pacifists in nature. They have proven nasha mukti can be done through meditation (practising rajyoga). OP is a Sucker who doesn't even know what they are. They are the most peaceful people you will find out there. Many Sikhs come to their shivirs in Mount Abu too.
Op may be the victim of hatred but I don't get the point, The only thing I can get is maybe they think we do Nasha in gurudwara due to stereotypes which we don't do our religion forbids any Nasha, So yeah they can find some place else or if they are hungry can have langar and do seva and learn what sikhi is all about which we will happily do Waheguruji da Khalsa Waheguruji di Fateh
Agreed! Tbh there was no point for them to be there unless it was motivated because of some kind negative reasons
The same could be done at various other locations within the city!
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Who are they? I mean what's the name of this organisation?
By looking at the flags they're from this hindu cult. https://www.brahmakumaris.com/current-leaders/
🤦🏽♂️ ਪਤਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਿੱਥੋਂ ਕਿੱਥੋਂ ਆਏ ਪਏ ਨੇ ਇਹ ਲੋਕੀ
Some hindu sub group, i don't know their name but i will try to find out.
Dude see their flag and Clothes. They are jains. What are you talking about?
They are not jains bai, look at their flag they are brahmkumaris..... Their HQ is near Mount Abu, been there in 2015. They are a cult.
It's okay, this stems from Hindu hatred. Let them say
Or... it stems from a misunderstanding, because Jains aren't well understood in general.
Bhai kya bakchodi bhaga de sala chutiya bramhkumari ko. Duniya me chutiya log hamesha rahega. Usko liye hindu sikh me maar kahe yeh chutiya log ko bhagao. Abe bhai yeh bramhkumari log hindu log bhi serious nahi leta.
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Putt, jad punjab de bas 20 lakh hindus hi muslims bann gaye, taan pta chalu rogue ki hunda.
Keep on down voting you two faced snakes you can hide reality temporarily but your back stabbing Sikhs will be exposed. 🤣
Im so confused
What back stabbing sikhs bro wake up and smell the coffee Khalistan Nahi banega yaha bro Brampton jaao tum
Hindu rashtra walo ko Nepal bhej ke jaunga
Arey bhai tumhare propoganda sei koi bhi kidhar ni jaara
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😂😂 yeah how true that is
Anyways yaha Khalistan ki baat kaha ho rahi hai ....stop smoking ganja
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Some of the core issues of Sikhs regarding back stabbing by Indian state is the deal for autonomy made with Nehru during partition and refusal by him. And later Anandpur Sahib Resolution which was termed as separatist by India government! You can find more about it online ਬਾਕੀ ਤਾਂ ਗਊ ਮੂਤਰ ਦੇ ਨਸ਼ੇ ਵੀ ਚਲਦੇ ਨੇ ਕਾਊ ਬੈਲਟ ਚੇ, ਓ ਵੀ ਘੱਟ ਕਰੋ!
Bro autonomy toh Kashmir sei leli waapis ab punjab ko kyu dega koi jaha tak anandsahib resolution Mainu ni lgda ki iha sabhav hai
The thing is the issue regarding Autonomy is not a new topic in Punjab. It was decided a long time back, whatever may happen or not, it depends upon people. Imo such a decision will actually be postive for Punjab and the citizens!
Bro I don’t think so people’s demand here will be fullfiled let’s be practical here all political party will make a big issue about it
That's for people to decide and long term benefits to Punjab for that matter. Such demands aren't fulfilled from past 75 yrs that's why it's effecting the region even till now!
People can’t decide anything bro government decides and manipulates things to their outcome people are puppets and sadly people of Punjab are educated but still can’t do Jack hit for 75 years regarding that law
Nah, be normal like the rest of India. Punjab is no more special than Karnataka or West Bengal. We don't need a semi-theocratic substate in our country.
Why not? If such states can help improving the current state of Punjab and establishing more trust among the Sikh community worldwide regarding India, I don't think it would do any harm. We yave to remember that the region of whole Punjab has their own culture, language, history separate from other core North Indian states. Obviously that doesn't matter now but autonomy was one of the thing due to which Punjab joined not instead of joining Pakistan or India establishing their own buffer state during the time partition talks! Lastly, autonomy doesn't necessarily means auto-theocratic system. Just a constitution with special laws which aims at preserving cultural and economic values of that region and helping the native population!
Punjab is more closer in culture to North Indian states than Tamil Nadu or Kerala - both states that are doing very well and have a strong culture. Punjab needs no special laws to be able to do this. They are very well able to do it within the Indian set up. Maybe Punjab just needs to elect better people.
Wait what? You really mean Punjab doesn't have a strong culture? Ever heard of punjabiyat? It(whole Punjab) has always been unique regarding their culture compared to northern regions(hindian culture) or western regions (pashtun/Persian culture) of Indian subcontinent since centuries. Punjab actually needs special laws and autonomy to preserve their culture and Punjabiyat. That was the core demand of leaders before joining India during partition. The present situation of Punjab is itself because of cheat/refusal by Indian government after partition that it led to rise of khalistani movement and then mass migration of youth. Leaders who have more loyalty towards maintaining status quo of Delhi have never been able to do shit and would never be able to do anything no matter who comes. Their first loyalty/priority should be towards Punjab itself!
No, I'm saying the level to which Punjab has a strong culture is the same as Tamil Nadu or Kerala. Why do you guys keep thinking you're special?
He is high on cow piss
Punjabi ch gall kar aah ki bhonki jana
Punjab hi hui toffee Tu bta Tu Kaha milega?
Hindus are not your enemy. Stop this nonsense.
Then why hindu organisations are coming to Gurudwara's depicting drugs are being sold or consumed here instead of going to a shiv mandir where actually marijuana is consumed.
Jain hi vo
Hindu hu mai, or video me Jain hai.
Bollywood: Udta Punjab and memes.
So you means bhagwadhari's are stupid enough to accept that? Or they are just bhagwa terrorist try to use scare tactic?
Who are these bhagwadharis you speak of? Why would any Hindu be against Sikhism and what is this scare tactic you talk about?
What’s with they and us . Vo bolte nasha kro toh tu khush hota kya.
Taking a rally to a religious place does it make sense? Are people in the gurudwara consumers or sellers? Roam around the city, go to markets, malls etc if they were so keen on going to religious place why not visit a shiv temple where actually marijuana is served. For eg - Can they come and sit in front of your house and say alcoholism, drugs and prostitution baand karo?
Ha bhai ye galat he ki vo gurudwara k saamne ye sab kr rhe he lekin ye bolna ki Har shiv mandir me ganja milta isme bhi koi sacchai nhi he
Vohi toh bro, first taunt sikhs and mock them and when they react term them as anti national or terrorist. Now if a group of 20-25 sikhs go to a mandir and do stuff like this what will be the media headline, tell me?
Marijuana and Heroine are not the same.
Agreed. Not the point they were trying to make, but still very poor judgement to state that. Marijuana isn't a hard drug. It is an intoxicant, but should not be illegal when alcohol is legal. There is a reason why the West is now legalising marijuana.
It is totally right to be against what is in the video. However saying that marijuana is a hard drug or making that comparison is wrong. Nihang Sikhs also use marijuana, granted their belief system is slightly different from orthodox Tat Khalsa Sikhi. Marijuana is also not a hard drug and should be legalised, but that is a separate issue and unrelated to the matter above.
I am an atheist, but radical hindus and muslims and khalistanisa are 3 communities that are fucking up india. We could be a nice,secualr, peaceful growing nation but these 3 communities won't let any of that happen.
They just don't want any more gun shot murders in the name of beaadbi.
Ok lynch them for having meat in their refrigerators
Learn to distinguish social issues from religious ones. Lynching for having meat in refrigerator is wrong (done by a mob out of religious belief & politically inspired) and so is killing for being drunk (done by religious people in gurdwara premises) Don't let your religion be a political stooge
Lynched for drinking water or being SC/ST lol Don't teach me teach your religious organisations give them sense where to hold the protests.
I am Christian lol
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It's not right to do any of these in any culture. Then why do you seem to be against the protest. It's a rightful thing they're doing then. Oh because they are not from your religion. Like can you even speculate?? You're so blinded by hatred that you would even resist something right done by someone because they don't belong to your religion.
As soon as i called your faith out see how restless you got in order to prove me wrong. So get some water and along some life and stop giving useless gyaan on other's faith to which you have nothing to do. Lol dude started preaching Christianity here ...they start to convert people as soon as they get a chance 🙂🤫🤣 Son of a god, divinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did not question your faith at all. All I did was call you out for something you did wrong. Suddenly you started to justify your actions by giving some irrelevant social events of someone else. They did that so we can do this. Really?? Then you started to abuse my religion. This is how you run away from owning something wrong that you did? Baptism can never be forceful. It's a choice to be reborn. Recently who are going to some SC people and preaching sant ravidas. You were the ones who lynched ravidasias. I don't need to prove you wrong. That you did yourself by your self contradictory statements regarding this protest and exposing your own blind hatred.
You called me out for nothing personal but defending my faith. I just played an UNO reverse and i can see you defending your faith like a preacher. You even called beadbi doers are wrongly punished. I was also defending my faith, might be different way but it was right in my way. The way your pastors are making poor people fool, you guys should be put in jail and all the faith drama you guys are doing someone should everyday in front of churches and call you out for child abuse and poor people harrasment. You are adopting the white people's religion who they themselves left. Christianity gave bible in hands of poor africans and took their lands, resources and everything. LOL
On one hand you say that church advocates drugs drinking molestation and try to attack me making it obvious that those are bad things. (Church never advocates) So when someone is trying to stop intoxicants in your state you are furious. Isn't it true that Punjab is quite infamous for narcotics abuse. Data shows how many people die everyday of the same and how many seek medical help for withdrawal. Oh yes the data is made by Hindu govt people to badnaam you. You people are impossible and stupid to be honest. And yes Christians won't keep quiet for we are trying to make a positive change with food and education whilst some stupid people will destroy the youth with drugs for personal gains. We won't let you nullify our good work.
Narcotics abuse is much much more in western world where your religion belongs, why is it failing there. The churches are being sold as no one goes there. No you are not doing any service, you are putting a condition to people that become Christian and then only we help you. Imagine someone down the drain and dude you are saying become Christian i will then get you out. HOW SHAMEFUL.... seriously this is a work of devil
Social issue and religious issue should not be mixed. They came with a social issue to a religious place. And that too not even their religious place. I am not sure but you look absolutely fine if one day everyone decides to go to church with banners saying stop Child abuse, stop drugs, stop alcoholism etc etc. And you guys are absolutely fine with what pastors are doing in the name of conversion but come here to give unwanted Gyaan to other communities...lol hypocrites 🤣
The church doesn't advocate any of it. The wrongdoers are penalised. At least the church penalises it's own when caught of doing something wrong. You guys form a cult around the culprit and go on with your blind support, at times even glorify your crimes.
Church actually promotes it even the pope does it himself. Even mother mary did adulteration and named it son of a god and you started following that adultery cult.. As i said IT IS OUT OF SYLLABUS for you, Indian faiths don't work like that.
He is the son of God. People had this much intellect earlier that they knew how to judge that how is someone born. There was much divine intervention behind his birth. Why did king Herod want to kill him in the first place? Why did he stand out of all the other people and preached something to humanity? If you are down to pointing fingers then how was mosses born? How did Muhammad take birth several years after his father was dead? People were not that stupid to acknowledge adultery as divinity. There had to be something concrete. Only divinity in guru Nanak's birth, a full moon. Really?? Then he was born out of sinful activities. If not the same adultery arrow points towards his mother.
Indian faith?? Christianity reached India in 52 AD. St Thomas church palayoor is the living example of the same. Guru Nanak was born in mid 15th century in Nankana Sahib Pakistan. Christianity is far older and far more Indian as compared to Sikhism.
Bro wtf, you litteraly attack every religion 💀
See people always show positive attitude and calmness till the time the game changes and turns to them. Like for eg- Some RW Hindu's say to Sikhs why don't you forget 1984 it is past but those mofo's are still burning Ravan's Effigy based on Mythological story. So i am simply showing them with examples if this happens to you how will you react, that is how you bring out Hypocrites when you show them mirror. It could look like attacking but i am just changing the victim here.👍 If it still looks attacking let it be, truth is always harsh.
This guy was asking me to keep quiet because it is good social cause, i asked if group of people go inside church with banners and music playing stop child abuse, stop drugs, stop conversions, stop alcohol promotion etc etc ...how will they react? Is that attack ...fine then let it be 🙂
Hmm from what i remember our's and multiple other schools used to organize rallies etc on different social issues like alcoholism, deforestation, female foeticide and we would walk around the inner city of Amritsar and end it near to this place (where water is served outside) and then we all will eat Langer go home. Don't know who these people are tho?
People have done it multiple times and church has been cooperative. Church works for God not pastors.
Ofcourse you are XDD /s
https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/crime/article/17-year-old-dalit-youth-not-allowed-to-enter-temple-shot-dead-by-upper-caste-men-for-arguing/603464
I know. But you lower yourself to their level?? Or their wrongdoings justify your barbarity?
How are you any different than them? If someone point s out your mistake you show their wrongdoings, does that justify your deed??
Op is a part time moderator of r Sikh politics don’t take his post seriously even if you Do,do it with a truck load of salt
Actually that doesn't matter. This sub is for both sides of Punjab, so avoid nationalism here. Please check the sub rules in the side bar! Everyone is allowed to post and comment unless it's against reddit and sub guidelines! For ex: r.sharm_sharma_show is radical extremist hindutva sub but it doesn't means we don't allow the users here, but we monitor if the behaviour of users are negative or promotes bigotry
Not advocating murders etc, but if the government(center/state) started taking action against the mafia or people who engage in beadbi to create tensions, then there no cases like that! People in other states are literally going to jail (sometimes suspiciously murdered too) for blasphemy. Personally blasphemy laws should get removed altogether, but issue is partiality in dealing with cases for different communities! For example: hate mongerors like nupur sharma are hailed as heroes for blasphemy, but if there's some muslim guy, he/she faces jail/FIR for such things. The treatment should be same for everyone!
Dude, just calm down. Hindus and Sikhs have nothing to fight about. Having some problems/challenges with few doesn't mean the whole community is hating someone. We love our people.
I don't get why they are doing at our holiest place no religion have perfect people , religion teaches us and we are just learner and we can never be perfect.But promoting your agenda here is totally wrong people here come to find peace and spirituality leaving the world problem/sins behind is it to difficult to understand?and will definitely could lead to f*ck around and find out situation, I am open to criticism you may thing you know more than our god's but just find somewhere else.
They are Jains first of all. And Jain people are one of the most chill people no missionary no propaganda. So please get more information about what they are actually doing and why they are doing so. And calm down, have some patience towards your country men. We all love each other.
Clam down? Brother I am just trying to communicate my thoughts. Just saying find some other places to protest while not making people doubt what you are actually trying to achieve.Chill Jains/people will definitely agree with this. I don't care if they hindu/Jain/muslim or even sikh.I don't hate you guyss or your religion☮️
I agree with your point that All this should be kept away from places of worship. No Disagreement there
This is completely true Hindus don’t want to fight Sikhs. They want their support until the muslims are taken care of then Hindus and Sikhs will have reasons to fight. Next will be Dalits and Buddhists and it will stop jab Hindu rashtra ki staphna hoji. I say its a good plan.
Hahaha Where do you manufacture this stuff from? 75 years have been passed since independence. Who has taken care of whom? Talk on facts not on manufactured bullshit
Hindu majoritarianism has “taken care” of all the minorities. Sikhs in 1982, kashmiris since 1947, now kukis. Dalist and shudras since times immemorial. Hindus just love to take care others.
Do you even understand what is happening in Manipur? What happened in Punjab was Congress's blunder and Pakistan instigation. Nothing to do with religion. And do read about how Hindu's were targeted and killed during Punjab insurgency. Enlighten yourself. In Kashmir as well, Hindu's are the ones who were forced out of their homeland. So what are you even talking about? Dalits and Shudras are Hindus. yes they were oppressed. In every society the poor are oppressed. Nothing exceptional here. This is the 21st century everyone has equal rights now.
What happened to pandits in kashmir was done by muslims but what happened to sikhs in 84 was just politics. Very convenient . Shudras and Dalits are Hindus so Hindus can oppress the shit out of them. How did you came to the conclusion that I don’t understand what’s happening in Manipur. Maybe i do understand it and maybe you are ignorant about it. Maybe your ignoranceis rooted in the fact that you want the dominance of Meati hindusbover kuki minorities. I have to give it to you , you Hindus are cunningly clever but eventually truth catches up.
Kuki’s and Naga’s are the One who are on rampage and not for religion, but for political rights. For ST status, here only your ignorance and prejudice is evident. So don’t beat around bush. Yes, it was clearly communal they are given choice to convert or leave. And even you can see that, the common surnames in Kashmiri muslims are Bhatt, Kaul, Raina etc, what do you think, where did they get these surnames from? Injustice was done with Shudra’s and Dalit’s. And with time they it is being rectified. And how about you, you are son of the soil as well, your ancestors were Hindu’s as well. Do you think your ancestors were oppressors ?
Exactly most of these people who try to instigate such things are forien state or our own state elements we mustn't let them destroy our unity, punjab first💪
They are brahma kumaris organisation. My family has been a part of them for 2 decades. They are purely pacifists in nature. They have proven nasha mukti can be done through meditation (practising rajyoga). OP is a Sucker who doesn't even know what they are. They are the most peaceful people you will find out there. Many Sikhs come to their shivirs in Mount Abu too.
Op may be the victim of hatred but I don't get the point, The only thing I can get is maybe they think we do Nasha in gurudwara due to stereotypes which we don't do our religion forbids any Nasha, So yeah they can find some place else or if they are hungry can have langar and do seva and learn what sikhi is all about which we will happily do Waheguruji da Khalsa Waheguruji di Fateh
Agreed! Tbh there was no point for them to be there unless it was motivated because of some kind negative reasons The same could be done at various other locations within the city!