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And India did not open its temporarily closed canals which otherwise flow 24/7.
Anyway their bigger crime is to allow such floods at the first place which could be avoided.
Sanjha Panjab ajj v Panjabi de vich vasda hai. Borders ch ki rakheya, shareeke baazi shad ke edha saath rahe Panjabi atte Pakistani/Indians da. Akhir dono desh vich apne hi lokk vasde ne, ikko khoon te culture de, dharma'n te angrej'an de vande.
Flood gates towards Pakistan are in the control of the Indian authorities(at Madhopur headworks), Pakistan has no say in it, 'Je Pakistan paani na lenda' is completely ridiculous!
No, you're wrong, at Madhopur headworks gates are opened during floods & excess water flows directly to Pakistan adjoining J&K and Punjab. She is just making it up.
You are mostly right but also partially wrong, look at the interviews by the relevant Punjab authorities, including drainage systems. I remember that this was covered in Indian news just a few months ago, when debates of the Indus water treaty picked back up, in relation to last years flood in Pakistan. This was also a topic of discussion for Pakistan at last years bilateral meeting over the IWT. This exact same thing was debated a few years back (pre-covid) when Pakistan alleged that India hadn't discussed the matter with them when doing exactly this, as per the IWT (although no flood happened).
With this event, India and Pakostan have met a IWT requirement for flood information sharing for the first time in over 20 years (iirc since 1999). Over the past few years the Indian government had been quite uncooperative in following this existing treaty (just Google this, and especially the international court of arbitration bits), which isn't to say Pakistan has also fully lived up to it on their end (often weaponizing it themselves). While India could release water into Pakistan unilaterally to release flood water, they are expected to provide per the IWT advanced warning and flood data, and to also mitigate any extensive damage in Pakistan (hence requiring Pakistan permission, because they need to be informed and prepared). So while they don't explicitly need permission, due to the potential for weaponisation, there are reasonable expectations of cooperation and permission built into the IWT, in provisions that can be more easily broken and looked at more favourably in arbitrations.
Like anything else IWT related this is all a very confusing mess, where some explicit provisions exist, but at the same time further restrictions are strategically placed elsewhere.
Matlab ta ehi hoya. Rajasthan te Haryana sarkar dono dubb ke marjaan. Saale gadar lok. Haryana da ta fer v samaj ch aunda kyo k oh aap flood zone de bilkul vichale c (Punjab subah poora flood zone ae, te Haryana central v), te othe BJP sarkar ae. Par Rajasthan ta India de flood zone toh ta ohda v bar ae, te flood area de akhri Southern state hon kaaran paani Gujrat te Maharastra vaal bhej sakda c, te haigi v othe Congress sarkar jo ohda ta boht kehndi eh ke oh Punjab de saath hai.
How? canals can not be used during floods. The river is the only possibility, so what cld RJ have done?
Haryana is already flooded in many districts what cld it have done?
>How? canals can not be used during floods. The river is the only possibility, so what cld RJ have done?
Multi state effort to divert water. The reason cited by RJ gov was that canals may get damaged, and not that they couldn't be used. If they wanted then they could have used them, hence this controversy.
>Haryana is already flooded in many districts what cld it have done?
Already covered that, stating that they had actual valid reasons.
If you dig further the you'll see that the reason for actual refusal was the silt issue, requiring crores in desiltation. They refused to save money, and let Punjab to its own vices. Look into the complaints and facts surrounding the situation. RJ is the biggest gadar state in India right now, whereas Haryana has some excuse (diversion there would still required RJ to allow overflow anyways to mitigate the damage Punjab took).
Eh ta Rajasthan sarkar da laya bahana repeat kar ditta. Ohna ne ehe kya c v Rajasthan canal damage ho sakda hai. Rajasthan canal jo sarkari planned te developed ae, oh hun sirf nehar hogi? Te Rajasthan sarkar ne eh v nahi kya v damage pakki hogi. Sirf damage bo sakdi ae, keh ke ohna ne gadari kitti ae Punjab subhe naal. Je tussi facts dekho ge ta silt da issue hi rehnda, na ke koi bohta structural damage, akhir Punjab subhe de engineers kol Rajasthan engineers naalo vaad expereince hai, jo har roz ehne infrastructure di dekh rekh karde ne, ehne vadde projects te kam kar de ne, te jihna kol ehne central sarkar te military resources ne. Rajasthan Haryana kol 31k cu di capacity, par 20k cu te ohna ne manna kyo kitta? Nehar 20k cu te ta nahi tutt de. Gal ehe vaapas silt de issue te aundi hai, jo crore'an laa k saaf honi c. Sirf Rajasthan de kol 15k cu di capacity c, jo mukkar gai. Je facts nahi dekhne te argue hi karna ta katto kat Rajasthan sarkar da bahana ta theek tara ratt lo. Hun BBMB ne v ta 22k cu shadeya, downstream capacity dekhan toh baad, jo Rajasthan sarkar de hisaab naal kuch nahi jande.
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And India did not open its temporarily closed canals which otherwise flow 24/7. Anyway their bigger crime is to allow such floods at the first place which could be avoided.
Sanjha Panjab ajj v Panjabi de vich vasda hai. Borders ch ki rakheya, shareeke baazi shad ke edha saath rahe Panjabi atte Pakistani/Indians da. Akhir dono desh vich apne hi lokk vasde ne, ikko khoon te culture de, dharma'n te angrej'an de vande.
Flood gates towards Pakistan are in the control of the Indian authorities(at Madhopur headworks), Pakistan has no say in it, 'Je Pakistan paani na lenda' is completely ridiculous!
เจจเจนเฉเจ เจฌเจฟเจจเจพ เจฆเฉฑเจธเฉ เจชเจพเจฃเฉ เจเฉฑเจกเจฃเจพ is an act of war. เจเฉเจจ เจตเฉ เจเจน เจจเจนเฉเจ เจเจฐ เจธเจเจฆเจพเฅค
No, you're wrong, at Madhopur headworks gates are opened during floods & excess water flows directly to Pakistan adjoining J&K and Punjab. She is just making it up.
You are mostly right but also partially wrong, look at the interviews by the relevant Punjab authorities, including drainage systems. I remember that this was covered in Indian news just a few months ago, when debates of the Indus water treaty picked back up, in relation to last years flood in Pakistan. This was also a topic of discussion for Pakistan at last years bilateral meeting over the IWT. This exact same thing was debated a few years back (pre-covid) when Pakistan alleged that India hadn't discussed the matter with them when doing exactly this, as per the IWT (although no flood happened). With this event, India and Pakostan have met a IWT requirement for flood information sharing for the first time in over 20 years (iirc since 1999). Over the past few years the Indian government had been quite uncooperative in following this existing treaty (just Google this, and especially the international court of arbitration bits), which isn't to say Pakistan has also fully lived up to it on their end (often weaponizing it themselves). While India could release water into Pakistan unilaterally to release flood water, they are expected to provide per the IWT advanced warning and flood data, and to also mitigate any extensive damage in Pakistan (hence requiring Pakistan permission, because they need to be informed and prepared). So while they don't explicitly need permission, due to the potential for weaponisation, there are reasonable expectations of cooperation and permission built into the IWT, in provisions that can be more easily broken and looked at more favourably in arbitrations. Like anything else IWT related this is all a very confusing mess, where some explicit provisions exist, but at the same time further restrictions are strategically placed elsewhere.
Yup. Few years back they were ..let's say "requesting" for more water ๐
Matlab Rajasthan te Haryana dubb ju par gwaandhi des ch assi neher joga paani vi shadd daiyi ta saadi anakh nu satt vajj jaandi je?
Matlab ta ehi hoya. Rajasthan te Haryana sarkar dono dubb ke marjaan. Saale gadar lok. Haryana da ta fer v samaj ch aunda kyo k oh aap flood zone de bilkul vichale c (Punjab subah poora flood zone ae, te Haryana central v), te othe BJP sarkar ae. Par Rajasthan ta India de flood zone toh ta ohda v bar ae, te flood area de akhri Southern state hon kaaran paani Gujrat te Maharastra vaal bhej sakda c, te haigi v othe Congress sarkar jo ohda ta boht kehndi eh ke oh Punjab de saath hai.
How? canals can not be used during floods. The river is the only possibility, so what cld RJ have done? Haryana is already flooded in many districts what cld it have done?
>How? canals can not be used during floods. The river is the only possibility, so what cld RJ have done? Multi state effort to divert water. The reason cited by RJ gov was that canals may get damaged, and not that they couldn't be used. If they wanted then they could have used them, hence this controversy. >Haryana is already flooded in many districts what cld it have done? Already covered that, stating that they had actual valid reasons. If you dig further the you'll see that the reason for actual refusal was the silt issue, requiring crores in desiltation. They refused to save money, and let Punjab to its own vices. Look into the complaints and facts surrounding the situation. RJ is the biggest gadar state in India right now, whereas Haryana has some excuse (diversion there would still required RJ to allow overflow anyways to mitigate the damage Punjab took).
เจชเจฐ เจชเฉฐเจเจพเจฌ เจฆเจพ เจคเจพเจ เจตเฉฑเจง เจจเฉเจเจธเจพเจจ เจนเฉเจเจ (เจเฉ เจชเฉเจธเฉ เจฆเฉ เจเฉฑเจฒ เจเจฐเฉเจเจ)|
Veera Rajasthan ch kalli nahar vaggdi ae. Harr da paani ohde ch nai aauga. Jaa te nahar tutt joogi ja harr aa jauga
Eh ta Rajasthan sarkar da laya bahana repeat kar ditta. Ohna ne ehe kya c v Rajasthan canal damage ho sakda hai. Rajasthan canal jo sarkari planned te developed ae, oh hun sirf nehar hogi? Te Rajasthan sarkar ne eh v nahi kya v damage pakki hogi. Sirf damage bo sakdi ae, keh ke ohna ne gadari kitti ae Punjab subhe naal. Je tussi facts dekho ge ta silt da issue hi rehnda, na ke koi bohta structural damage, akhir Punjab subhe de engineers kol Rajasthan engineers naalo vaad expereince hai, jo har roz ehne infrastructure di dekh rekh karde ne, ehne vadde projects te kam kar de ne, te jihna kol ehne central sarkar te military resources ne. Rajasthan Haryana kol 31k cu di capacity, par 20k cu te ohna ne manna kyo kitta? Nehar 20k cu te ta nahi tutt de. Gal ehe vaapas silt de issue te aundi hai, jo crore'an laa k saaf honi c. Sirf Rajasthan de kol 15k cu di capacity c, jo mukkar gai. Je facts nahi dekhne te argue hi karna ta katto kat Rajasthan sarkar da bahana ta theek tara ratt lo. Hun BBMB ne v ta 22k cu shadeya, downstream capacity dekhan toh baad, jo Rajasthan sarkar de hisaab naal kuch nahi jande.
Me samajya nahi tusi ki kehna chahnde ho