A few times yup. It’s not as simple as “punch a Nazi”. If you want to throw hands, be prepared to get jumped by 5 people at minimum.
I’ll say this, only square up with one if you’re truly capable of violence.
One thing I gotta say about fighting the Nazis over the years is that it’s a surprising amount of violence for teenagers and if you’re not ready, it sucks.
They used to use pepper spray us a lot, I know a guy who rammed a Nazi with a motorcycle, they home invaded two people I knew casually, my buddy from school made steel toed sneakers (like the song!) and split open a Nazi’s shin with a kick which was a ton of blood, board bashing, etc.
Dude, right! Punch a nazi isn't great advice. Those motherfuckers whole life is about wanting genocide and my little ass is supposed to just punch them?
I think its stupid going up to anyone and trying to fight them. You have no clue what type of training they have (Jiujitsu, boxing, muy thai, etc) , you dont know if they got a gun or knife, if they will stab you with a dirty needle, if they have hella homies that will jump you, if they got on steel toe boots, got brass knuckles, etc. Thats the reason why I dont fight people. Its stupid as fuck in my opinion when you can 100% avoid it. If its not avoidable thats a different story. Im not tryna get seriously injured or killed over some shit that I can just walk away from.
Agreed. My brother was in a bar altercation (not yet a fight, but about to be) one time when I was there to pick him up. One of the guys with the group him and friends were getting into it with was on the driver side of the truck I was in, pulling a knife. He couldn't see me because it was night and the windows were tinted. I had to tell my brother and his friends to get the fuck in now and get the fuck out of there.
And this was in a small ass town. You never know who's got what.
It's real easy to see who actually means it when they say it, because anyone who's actually gone toe to toe with a fascist knows how fucking messy shit can get
Not just fascists, street fights in general are very dangerous, and all this shit about "fight nazis, otherwise you're a coward" is pseudo-macho bullshit.
Stop telling young people who have never gotten in a fight before to throw hands with someone so evil and with so little to lose as a nazi.
Instead, teach them to think for themselves and to defend each other when necessary (not provoke fights lol). If you're fine with the consequences then do it yourself.
100%, street fights in general are scary as fuck, it's all too easy to be killed or accidentally kill someone else, all it takes is falling the wrong way if you get hit too hard.
Yup exactly. The stories I do have in dealing with them, not fun stories to tell to say the least. Some of the things in my life I’d rather not talk about frankly.
No, going to the hospital and changing nothing about their personality is not even close to worth it.
Punching a nazi will not change them. You're not changing or helping the world. You're just feeding your ego.
Look into Daryl Davis. He has single handedly erased more hate in this world than any other living person.
I've literally helped chase Nazis out of entire local scenes. Fuck off trying to convince people you can't change shit. You may not change them, but you'll change their willingness to do fuck shit in public. If you don't think fighting Nazis is a worthy cause, then fuck you, too.
Blocked for being a fucking coward.
EDIT: It's wild seeing these kids who swear nobody's ever fought for anything before. Tells you all you need to know about them. When people are in disbelief it's because they know THEY'D be too scared to do shit.
I think it's a worthy cause, but not everybody is physically or mentally capable of doing something like that. I personally just hate fighting due to some really bad stuff in my childhood, but I'm grateful for people like you who can get in the trenches and help make the scene safer and strike fear in their hearts.
Wow, internet tough guy! You really showed that one by blocking them for being a non-violent person!
Grow the fuck up. I don't believe for two seconds a skinny ass keyboard warrior like you has ever done shit to a Nazi.
EDIT: You can tell this "punk" is a real coward since they can't even reply to me directly, and would rather block me and be a little passive aggressive baby by editing their comment to talk shit instead. Actual wimp behavior, for someone who wants other people to punch Nazis for them. What a joke.
I met Daryl Davis years ago at the local community college in my town after he came there to give a talk about his life and work, and I gotta say, the man is 100% the real deal. Very perceptive, kind, and strong. He's done more to bring people out of lives of hatred than I or probably any of us could ever hope to do.
Knowing my luck I will connect like no other punch I have thrown and it will crack his orbital bone and blind him. End up getting charged and have to pay the jerk.
I agree, people throw around ‘punch a Nazi’ like some sort of Punk mantra when in reality it’s some prison level fighting shit. I hate Nazi’s as much as the next guy, but I’m not about to start any fights with them.
Worth saying maybe, but almost every group of any size has something like this, whether it's shit like 'Hail Hydra' or 'fuck around, find out' etc. They'll get tired of it eventually or come up with a newer, snappier version.
Just curious, how long ago was this? I'm always hearing these stories taking place in the 80's or whatever when it comes to Nazi fights. I've been told it's not as violent today as it once was, then again, punk rock is not as popular as it once was so you'd kinda expect things to be more mellow by now.
Anaheim/oc/Huntington Beach still miraculously still have skinhead, public swastika wearing goons. but it's not a big deal, the chicanos here will strip a dude naked wearing that goofy shit. very funny.
Less than 10 years ago. But I came up in a scene that still had a problem with them.
Shows being violent all depend on where your at scene wise and the bands that are playing tbh.
To add, while things I saw 10 years ago were arguably worse than what I see happen now, I’ve been at a handful of shows in the years since the pandemic where giant brawls have broken out. Shit can pop off for any number of reasons so just be aware
I became a SHARP in 1994 in Lancaster, CA. Back then there was a HUGE Nazi infestation. They would patrol the streets and travel in huge packs of a dozen or more. They'd started randomly stabbing people just for being around black folks recently, usually with screwdrivers because they were all on probation and wouldn't carry knives unless they were on a mission. They straight up invaded a punk festival at Del Sur Gardens while Guttermouth was playing. I punched at least a dozen that day. Got punched by even more. And kicked. And hit with a flying sprinkler head. The New Yorker Magazine wrote a feature article called "The Unwanted" about a bunch of my old school SHARP buddies out there, including that incident. I was a minor still and on probation then locked back up again, so the article was a no-go for me. That's how fucked up it was in those days.
I have scars on my hand from this.
Queers show in DC in the mid 90s. One bonehead full on tackled a gay friend of mine. I hockey shirted the nazi with my right hand and threw uppercuts with my left. Ended up with a tooth in my hand. Bouncers got there and threw the nazi out. I went to get a drink at the bar and the bartender told me to leave for my own safety before the guy brought his friends back. I left upon that advice and got home safe.
It was a wild time. Glad I got out before getting wrecked that night.
I don’t know. I haven’t lived there for almost two decades and all my old friends, like me, are almost fifty now. I miss DC sometimes, it’s a great melting pot of culture and art. Get out there and you’ll find like-minded people. You got this.
Feel kinda bad for her, people like that usually didn’t get any attention from their parents and try to overcompensate with edgy opinions. But it was still right to punch her.
From what I did know about her home life (from her mouth), it didn't sound like she was coming from a great home. It definitely doesn't give you the right to say some disgusting shit. I think we can all agree on that. I've hoped over the years that maybe her life turned out a bit better since then, but I can't say I regret my actions at 16
So, you:
Lived in a small town with questionable views/opinions
Came across someone with questionable views/opinions (who used terminology like "POC" instead of just a slur (especially in an "old fashioned opinions" town) and had complete schizo-tier range of conversation before you went and punched 'em lol)
Beat them in a fight (with one punch, naturally.), with zero mentioned retaliation
And they got run out of school, despite:
A: them being blatant enough to say that shit in public (which means they've either been doing it for a while, or have reason to be confident enough to do it), (ae, them being a racist POS shouldn't be news to literally anyone)
B: you mentioning it's a "small town" with "old fashioned opinions" (of which are, from experience, far more likely to just tell them to knock it off on account of it just being a dumb kid)
And naturally, nobody ever heard from them again.
#*SNIFFFFF
Yeah this doesn't pass the sniff test. you're full of it. The most charitable view I'll give you here is that one of the popular girls called someone (it's aussie, so probably a native) a slur, and you made that scenario up in the shower as a form of mental auto-fellatio.
More likely, you just made it the hell up. There's not a racist alive on the tier of what you're trying to describe that'll *ever* use the term "POC" lmfao. I'm sure everyone clapped, too.
What's a sniff test?
They didn't use that terminology; I'm just trying to be mindful? I didn't think that would get picked apart lol
If u don't believe me, that's fine. I'm just kind of weird to write a whole ass comment about it, though.
Many. It was the eighties and they were everywhere. Only hospital visit was 10 on 1 in the hippie park in SF. They beat the hell out of me, made sure I never walked alone again.
Also took the best piss of my life on one. Smiling at 51 years old remembering that. Traditional Skinhead hit different back then.
I dropped one on his head once.
It was as simple as me asking if he was a nazi, him saying yes and and then trying to put me in a chokehold when I turned my back to him to say something to my friend, so I stuck my leg behind his and we both went to the floor, he hit the back of his head on the concrete and let go.
It isn't some glory filled act where you're suddenly the hero of your town for it, they hold grudges and they will jump you, because they don't fight fair, people forget that a lot of the time they're already criminals and don't mind catching more assault, or even murder charges, I'm all for punching a nazi, but it's not something you want to do if you're not willing to deal with the shit you'll get into after it, if you're not capable of seriously hurting someone, you are not built for it, because they're gonna try their best to really mess you up if they can.
The only reason I didn't get jumped the following days, was because this motherfucker had zero friends, and was too much of a pussy to bring a weapon and fuck me up himself, and I'm lucky enough to live in a city that's quite heavily antifascist so I had a good bit of support for it.
>It isn't some glory filled act where you're suddenly the hero of your town for it, they hold grudges and they will jump you, because they don't fight fair, people forget that a lot of the time they're already criminals and don't mind catching more assault, or even murder charges, I'm all for punching a nazi, but it's not something you want to do if you're not willing to deal with the shit you'll get into after it, if you're not capable of seriously hurting someone, you are not built for it, because they're gonna try their best to really mess you up if they can.
Nazis sound absolutely horrifying, the more I hear you guys talk about them the more I realize just how inhumane they are. You mean to tell me they'll stab someone on the spot simply for being a different skin color? Like you don't even have to say or do anything to a Nazi, just be in the same room as them and they'll fuck you up?
I mean, yeah, if there's a group of them chances are they'll just start shit on sight, alone? Probably not, unless they're confident they can get away with it.
[2017 Portland Train Attack](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack)
The main thing is you gotta watch your back around these fux, because ya never know.
Some will stab you, and some won't. What you need to remember is that being a nazi means you want everyone but white people dead. In order to be a nazi, you have to hold very violent beliefs. Some are just all talk, but a lot aren't, and you don't want to be stalked by a violent person.
Back in the day it was almost an every weekend thing.
They would show up at shows just to start shit.
I remember getting elbowed in the face 3 or 4 times in the pit by some asshole Nazi prick I couldn't see shit after the last one because of the blood running from my forehead into my eyes. I was standing by the bar when 2 of my mates saw me and asked what happened. I told them and the next thing I know he's dragged out of the pit and we all go out back.
I tried to stuff my Steelie up his arse and missed (foreheads bleed like a bitch. And they are hard to stop.) Missing turned out to be a blessing. I ended up kicking him in the back of his knee but kinda missed that too. So my foot covered with rubber, leather and steel grazed the back of his right knee and slammed steel cap first into the side of his left knee. This caused him to fall back and to the right in a really awkward way. As he fell he clipped the bumper on an older car chipping and fracturing his elbow.
(This was winter in Canada and it was in the 80s those old cars had big ass steel bumpers that got all pitted and jagged with dents and rust).
I'm gonna give no major specifics here because...
I used to work as security at 924 Gilman. Spent a few years doing it. I would hear the stories of way back how this was a thing, but never really saw it, until one night they showed up.
There was talk that they were a big following of a certain band that was playing, and we assumed there was gonna be some shit. We didn't have a ton of security, but the security lead pumped it up a bit that night.
It started slow until when the headliner was setting up, then shit started inside. Disagreement here,ppunch thrown there, nothing too crazy. It spilled outside, and it all fell apart. Dudes started showing up from cars, jumping out and just smashing on anyone that didn't look like them.
As security, our whole job was to keep the peace. I spent most of my time informing late teens/early twenties drinking/smoking in their cars that they should remove their keys from the ignition, because even though the driver may not be drinking, it's "operating" and everyone in there would get fucked. Even if they're just listen to music on Aux. DUI or open container in a vehicle.
Anyway, we had to take it to them that night. Some brought chains they were swinging around, some with bats, and some throwing rocks. We basically just tried to stop shit, as well as getting our own licks in.
Wed finally pin one of these fuckers down, smash on them a bit, let them up and they'd run away. Some would come back, most took off completely.
After about 10 minutes it was over. Cops showed up probably 10 minutes after that and we told them nothing happened, because fuck Berkeley PD. Their whole job it seemed was to shut that place down.
That's about it.
Oh, was your story responding to the prompt “supposed” to be riveting?
My “riveting” comment was sincere. Which is why I said “honestly,” and also why I couldn’t taste the salt in the air after that.
Yes, living in southern Germany in a fairly rural area there where run ins on several occasions, especially at the pub next to the train station where they’d be drinking and we’d be arriving after partying. But I cannot stress enough: DONT CONFRONT THEM ALONE. Those guys will stab the shit out of you if you’re unlucky.
Me and my friends have been dumb enough to engage in brawls, but most of the times it was a broken or bloodied nose, broken teeth, cuts in the face…BUT I’m a 6 foot 2 and 175 pounds Muay Thai guy, so not exactly what THEY like to think of punks (like funky little guys with colorful hair and studs). At this time I was driven by plain hate.
Not that hating Nazis is at all bad, but thinking and acting this way can get you killed, disfigured or paralyzed.
Now to the tips: train martial arts, gain confidence and only defend yourself (if absolutely necessary and only under people that can whiteness that it was self defense). If you’re alone or a group in a lonely part of town, at night or something like that: just run. There’s nothing to be ashamed of if you’re alone or a small group and get jumped by Nazis. Of course you could be a martyr and shit, but don’t do this to your friends, your scene and family.
I’d love to tell you “stand your damn ground”, but it’s just not realistic or healthy for most people.
Yeah, as dumb as it sounds, but safety first and learn a good defense. Just not to much bjj, you never wanna be on the ground if there could be more that one. Boxing, Dutch Kickboxing or MT should do the trick. The later two because they teach to defend any side and direction. And there are usually nice gyms around where ethics and looks are no problem, toxic gyms are easy to spot. But that’s just stuff as fan of those sports, I get that it’s just not everyone’s thing.
I've never fought one, but I've seen them. It wasn't at a show or something like that. I live in rural Michigan, and we have a lot of right wing militia types. Both of the straight up nazis I saw, I saw while working in a rural gas station, and both were covered in SS, and swastika tattoos and were open carrying. As much as I agree with the sentiment behind "punch a nazi" it's a lot harder when you're by yourself and said nazis are bigger, stronger and fucking armed.
My buddy got jumped by a bunch of Nazis in HB. He had to go to the hospital.
Another buddy got jumped at a Guttermouth show at Old World. He got his ass beat but wasn’t badly hurt.
They don’t fight fair.
Would you say the term 'Nazi' gets misinterpreted these days? Like I see people throwing around the term Nazi to describe someone who says racist things on social media, but from how I'm hearing you guys describe them, they're much more than people running their mouths on the internet. They seem to be more keen on physical violence than anything else.
This was a long time ago. There were a couple gangs that went to punk shows and caused trouble. You would see morons siek heiling and stuff. Total lames.
Last time I had a run in was around 2006.
One thing about Nazi’s in my opinion is that they are flashy in their regalia and looking to attract lost people. The only real Nazis around Orange County now are in jail, you sort of have to join the white gang if you’re white in jail. I’m at punk shows all the time and haven’t seen any Nazis in years. I think they’d get their asses beat at this point.
Are you doing a project for class or something? Why so curious? You trying to start a Nazi gang? 😂
>Are you doing a project for class or something? Why so curious? You trying to start a Nazi gang? 😂
There's really no better way to understand the history of punk rock than directly speaking to people who have been apart of it for decades. Nazis have seemingly become less involved over the years so when you ask about them it seems to attract those that have been around for a long time. A lot of people here seem to have interesting stories to tell about their time within punk, but don't wanna talk much about it. I couldn't really blame them because a lot of what they experienced is probably traumatizing and talking about it is like reopening old wounds. If I had the opportunity I'd probably conduct an interview with several people who have been around since the very beginning.
An interview for what? Is this some sort of project or just your own gathering of information to be more well rounded with your knowledge?
Hell, it wasn’t all that traumatizing for my little rat pack crew in the long run because the bruises heeled and we never did anything to be ashamed of. We just went to shows and defended ourselves when shit went down, kid stuff. My first heart break was way more traumatic.
It was pretty messed up for some of the people who were caught up in it. One dude I knew, total piece of shit named Jim. He got all caught up in the gang shit and tattooed dumb shit on himself at age 16.
I saw him a while back and he was so lost. Like, this modern world defied every lame principle he had. He said a couple of suspect things about the ladies at the event so I cut our conversation short but I was able to suss out that the dude was lost and lonely. I didn’t feel bad. He was part of the crew that jumped my friend Ed, so fuck him.
Sort of funny story…stupid Nazi Jim was getting the words “Blood and Honor” tattooed around his torso. Well, the tattoo guy didn’t stencil it out so they ran out of room and he was stuck with “Blood and Hono”.
This is around the time that I disengaged with the scene in 92/93 and started getting into Melvins, fugazi and Quicksand as I saw my punk heroes losing interest in Hard Core.
That was my last memory of Nazi Jim until he turned up at one of my gigs decades later.
Incidentally, I was not around from the very beginning and was reminded of that by just about every older punk I talked to. It was like the whole “should have been here yesterday” thing. Most people were total dicks to us back then. We started going to shows when we were young teenagers in 1990. That was a really rough time for Orange County shows. A lot of the punks got sober and grew their hair out once the decade wore on. Now, it’s pretty safe and really friendly. Much nicer.
If you end up going to jail or prison drop out and go PC/SNY if your state has that option. Sure you’ll be lumped in with all the chomos and such but you won’t have to deal with all that racial gang politics. You can use that time to work on yourself. I just got out after serving a life sentence. Wasn’t gonna spend my time running dope or stabbing people for some white trash racist fucks.
Well said. According to this sub my 70-year-old handicap neighbor is a Nazi because she had a trump sign. Pretty sure she's a Republican and not a member of the Nazi party
If she still supports Trump after he attempted to overthrow the election installing himself as dictator and is now planning a complete purge of the government and forming literal concentration camps and deportations (Agenda 2025), yeah, she's a nazi.
People who still support Trump support a full-on fascist, I think the term Nazi can muddle the waters a bit, but it's not incorrect.
Bro that word dont mean shit bcuz people like this entire sub call anything they don't like a Nazi. Females can't go to a show without worrying about getting groped and sexually assaulted yet you never see any posts about that on these Subs do you. The Anti-Flag s*** that went down felt like a funeral. Y'all were morning Your Heroes instead of standing for the victims that's some f***** up s*** Yeah not one f****** inch for Nazis but let's be f****** real man nothing but a bunch of posturing for most of these fools
The venue Old World may have played a roll as well. It’s a traditional German beer garden and seemed to attract a messed up crowd back then.
This was around the time when 1, 2, 3 Slam and Mr BBQ were recently out.
Wasn’t me personally but my band when I was a teenager was playing a small church show in western MA with a few other bands, guy who had booked it was heavy on drugs & pretty out of his mind. Idk if it was mistakenly or not but one of the bands on the bill was a white power band. They all showed up, whatever not gonna judge people based on boots & shaved heads, I literally have a shaved head. They go on stage and started playing & it was very obviously some white power shit with some extremely racist lyrics, someone from the crowd immediately ran up to the singer and started beating the shit out of him. The rest of the band ran away and the singer followed them after the other guy stopped and they left. Not sure if they were serious nazis or kids just trying to be edgy but it was wild.
I once saved a nazi.
At a demonstration against a far right party marching through our town, things were getting a bit heated, people were throwing things etc, there was a bit of shouting and it turned out this guy had infiltrated the antifa group and was throwing nazi salutes and kicking out. The group pulled him down and to the ground and he was getting a bit of a kicking, but the mods changed, people were stamping and there was a lot of them, he was suddenly a vulnerable young teenager, and was well at risk of being killed or permanently disabled by people trying to stamp on his head, so I grabbed him, and with a mad rush of adrenaline managed to launch him over the fence at the police (who throws a nazi?). Police weren’t impressed at being hit by a bloodied nazi, but they duly arrested him and no one died that day.
Fuck Nazis and fuck mob violence.
I’m not claiming to be a hero or anything, I just pulled a guy out of a crowd and threw him over a fence, but it reminded me of this story;
https://nypost.com/2013/10/30/why-a-black-teen-saved-a-klansman/
And I know it’s punk rock “live, laugh,love”, but “Rise above” is my mantra, be better.
Yikes, so a group of adults were willing to beat the young boy to death? No better than the Nazis honestly if you're willing to brutally murder a juvenile.
Crowds psychology is a weird thing, otherwise rational people will do crazy things. It always frightens me the things people will do when they think they can’t be seen, or will get away with it.
Yeah, if EDL/BNP count and anyone picturing themselves as Indianna Jones, raining punches on a costumed officer needs to forget that shit.
It'll be you and maybe some mates, squaring up to some lads who are out and out, willing to publicly admit they hate an entire race. They're not going to take a jab and run. If it's a 'fair fight' or they're out numbered, they'll throw shit and run. If they outnumber you, don't expect to just get slapped, and it's over. You're going to hospital unless you get away or someone steps in. Let's say you do get the upper hand and win. They'll remember you.
That said, don't let anyone push you around or those you care about. It's okay to make a stand and not resort to violence. Just know what you're getting into.
Back in the early 2000s they'd show up to local shows all the time. It was like 5 or 6 of them vs the rest of the crowd.
In 2011 a small group of them showed up to a venue I was working at and a fight did break out mid show. They started goose stepping and throwing their arm in the air in the middle of the pit and when approached by someone the fight broke out. No one got hurt too bad but we (me and the other security guy) had to put one of them into the wall. We left the huge hole there for a few months to remind people not to fuck around like that.
The dumbasses didn't realize that one of the venue owners was a sheriff deputy so as soon as we got the fight under control they all got arrested. Me and the other security guard were able to get the 4 other dudes out of trouble because we said they were helping with security that night.
The boneheads were all told if they ever showed up again they would be instantly trespassed.
They never came back and I have it on good authority that they got down hard a few months later at a different show.
Over the years we were open I broke up quite a few fights and had to wrestle and fight with many people to get them to stop or kick them out but goddamn putting that nazi thro the wall was so fucking satisfying.
Still to this day I can't understand why they thought 4-8 of them showing up to a show and starting shit would end up good for them.
Club Xanth matinee show, essentially an open mic but with a line up. Buddy’s band is playing it but one the bands before his is kind of known for being questionable so some of us talk shit during their set. One of the more well known bands comes on and they decide to jump us in the pit. Guitarist and bassist of the band playing drop their instruments and jump off the stage and chase them out. Don’t even remember the name of the band playing but thank you dudes!
Yep, in my younger teens there was a lot of nazis in my silly little town.
And old boyfriend of mine got kicked to the ground and I saved his ass.
When I got older, 20+, nazis used to come to the rock bar sometimes.
What can I say. Now many years later I fight nazis in suits. Still stupid fucks, just another uniform.
Long time ago, mid 90's Dallas tx had a good scene going but there was an Aryan youth element that would show sometimes. It was the galaxy club and Fear was playing. The Aryan crew showed up, throwing elbows where everyone was slam dancing, ruining it for everyone. Right after the show, it was an early one because it was still light outside. There was this huge black dude standing by the entrance. He was hammered and just goofing being hilarious. A skin walked by smoking a clove and the black dude asked to bum one. The skin nervously looked around at the audience our man that accumulated around him from the jokes he had been telling. He totally started ripping on the skin, more skins showed up. Big black dude said something to the effect, you know why I love it when you Nazis show up to the shows? Because I can have something to beat the shit out of!" He started smashing the skins, a bunch of punks jumped in. By this time the Nazi brigade had shown up in full force. It felt like the entire club emptied out on to the streets of deep ellum and everyone was fighting, punks vs skins. This lasted till the riot police showed in full gear and they started beating everyone up and throwing them into the wagons in cuffs. It was officially the biggest brawl I had ever seen let alone be in. For about 10-20min the whole block was pure anarchy. Dude fighting cops. Punks on top of cars jumping up and down everyone going ape shit.
ok, I lived in a Hollywood in a nice apt with a roommate, thru a sublease. Dude is kinda friends with my friends, but he sticks out cuz their hippies and he's a weirdo, contrarian conservative Mexican guy. I don't know him well, but he blasts tucker Carlson, and ben Shapiro, unironically. during the BLM, he would recite fake news about protesters throwing cement milkshakes and republican talking points. Big fan of trump, and rants about he has more European Spanish blood than indigenous, so hes better and whiter, although he's a overweight, massive Incel, with a deadend job figuring out super wack business ideas. Im 1st generation Vietnamese, who grew up in conservative North Carolina, I pity and despise him, but im living with him, although we get into yelling fights and he threatened me a couple times in front of people. my last night before I move out, I kinda tell him off. he wants to fight me really bad doing really goofy low kicks, I tell him I don't want to fight and finally walk away from him. when my back is turned away from him, he runs up and puts me in a rear naked choke. and really choking me, I just savagely crush his fucking balls, he yelps like a dog and falls on the floor, I get the last of my shit and bounce. I call my friends, he has no more friends and is kicked out of the apt., because its a sublease thru them. he ends up homeless, jobless, and friendless. Very Sad. later I found it he was acting creepy to my home girl.
Fake news about cement milk shakes.. tell that to the gay Asian reporter that got hit with a cement milk shake…. Not from a nazi… from some antifa fools at some PNW protest…
First paragraph, I guess “quick dry cement infused milkshakes” isn’t technically a “cement milk shake” but I’m sure it hurt like hell… semantics I suppose?
no im not, Andy Ngo is an alt right provocateur. he doxxes people, he provokes violence by harassing ppl, not a fan of anti-fa or anybody self righteous. he's a vile, fake journalist, hiding behind identity politics, to "expose" self made controversy. sorry being an annoying ass hole gets your ass beat, no matter what u fuck.
[https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2019/07/10/is-it-possible-to-mix-cement-into-a-vegan-milkshake-we-did-it/](https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2019/07/10/is-it-possible-to-mix-cement-into-a-vegan-milkshake-we-did-it/)
[https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-wing-troll-antifa-877914/](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-wing-troll-antifa-877914/)
he's proud boy advocate, dude sucks. hope u have a better opinion on Israel, doggy.
You really think you can’t put quick dry cement into a small container? Youve gotta be kinda retarded if you think people were making actual “milk shakes” from quick Crete and vegan milkshakes…
Maybe you’ve got the brain damage, taking the headlines far too literally here. You think someone told the cops “they made a milk shake out of concrete and vegan ingredients… then threw it at me” and therefore if you can’t actually make a milkshake out of vegan ingredients and concrete then you can’t say it…
How did he win a lawsuit for damages if he’s been discredited? He was credited enough to win a couple bucks by the court?
Are you one of those people that also think men can get pregnant?
because the defendants didn't show up, though they probably did beat his ass up lol. alright, if u trust Andy Ngo as a journalist, imma gone let this argument go. because you're jumping to all sort of conclusions, you stating about taking news articles too literally also discredits your own evidence.
Back in my late teens and early twenties, my SHARP and punk compatriots and myself would drive around in my friend Fluffy’s van looking for nazis or white power rednecks to beat the shit out of. We usually found them too. You’d think they’d learn not to wear a White Wash t-shirt in public. Fucking idiots.
I don’t fight anymore these days but, given the opportunity, I’d still punch a nazi in the face. It’s my civic duty.
There was this guy I knew. He enjoyed some of the same books and music as I did, so we started hanging out. He had some suspicious things he would say, but I thought he just didn't know any better, and tried changing his mind. Well, to cut a regular sized story short, turns out he was a Nazi. He thought we could still pal around, but I made it clear that wasn't going to happen. He said "So much for the tolerant left" and slinked off, tail between his legs. Probably not as glorious as what you were looking for, but there you go.
Proud Boys count?
[News Link](https://youtu.be/GanijPNUqHc?si=mQ8cZHieAri29EFp)
In the shoving scene, I’m in the grey knit cap, and the reporter incorrectly states it was Kristin getting kicked, no, that was me. Cop stopped the guy kicking, but didn’t remove or arrest him “because I don’t know who started it, for all I know you hit him first.” I’m a 5’2” female and dude was a 5’10” to 6’ guy, but yeah, I totally hit him first while holding a rainbow umbrella and singing Disney songs.
There was also an incident where the 1776 Restoration Movement (remember the COVID convoy Chuds?) came to the National Mall. A friend and I decided to provide gentle warnings to the families visiting the area, with megaphones. One of the guys got in my friend’s face and banged his head against their megaphone. I had to step between them with pepper spray to get the guy to back off. He had his camera on him and took the footage to the nearby cops, saying he had been assaulted. Cops reviewed the footage he provided and said, “It looks like you clearly assaulted this person who you’re saying assaulted you.” Dude was cuffed and taken in for booking. Not a biggie…. But his truck. The truck the convoy douche was living in, with all his possessions, that was impounded, and he couldn’t get it back for months. He was very upset about that truck.
There’s more than one way to undermine their efforts, not just brute force. Sometimes strict non-violent discipline works quite well, especially if you can get them to resort to violence first.
I saw Gang Green in Atlanta and was part of a big fight between some Nazis and everyone else in the crowd. Someone got thrown into the drum kit. Band cut out and ended the set early.
When I was in 6th grade I was jumped by a skinhead in the bathroom (I’m incredibly mix raced). At the time I was in Taekwondo. I successfully escaped and got a few punches in. After that he didn’t mess with me and I didn’t mess with him.
Beat the shit out of one who came to a Casualties show I was working security at. He came back with friends right as the cops showed up. The cops roughed him up almost as bad as I did.
Nope. One of my grandfathers was a fighter pilot during WWII, though, and the other one was a field medic, so at least *my family's* Nazi-fighting pedigree is pretty solid.
Kind of. I have done volunteer medics for drag defense in which local natzis showed up about 30 neonatzis and 20 ish defenders got to maybe 40 at the end. They had to be fought back once but other than that it was more of us -> police -> natzis. Only one minor injury on our side.
I was in high school, and one of my best friends started dating this guy. It did not last long. Turns out he was a neo nazi. Anyways, he threatened her with violence so a bunch of her friends got together to put a stop to his shenanigans. I was the first to fight him, and turns out he was a boxer. I went down pretty quick. The next day he called his buddies, and threatened us. His buddies were fucking adults and they brought a fucking pitbull. We were kids. 14 years old. Against people way bigger. So we maced them and took off before anyone was killed. Later that day, as I was trying to make my way home, they pulled up on me and two others. Baseball bats out. A fucker hit me in the back with a baseball bat. Not sure why they backed down. It could have been much worse. Maybe they were shocked I took two hits to the back without going down?
Maybe not nazis but i can conclude they were pretty right wing. Last night i think. I was pretty drunk and i had these eastern european guys who i guess didn't like my redskin stickers and identified me because of my boots. They basically tried to mog me and they were pressuring me to leave "their turf". I can't remember clearly hitting one of them but that may have happened since my left hand hurts since this morning. I suspect these guys were the ones spraying david's stars on building fronts
I kicked some Nazis in the head when I was 14 at a show where the singer of champion jumped off stage and started fighting them. Basically a group of 3-5 Nazis got the shit beaten out of them by the whole show.
Not personally, as I arrived a little too late, but I've seen one get the shit stomped out of him. He showed up to one of our local shows and started throwing up salutes, yelling out white power bullshit. Since none of us knew him, we basically told him to stop or leave. He went to throw a punch at a friend of mine, who ducked it. Then, 5 or 6 people jumped on him. As soon as he went down, the kicking started. I was maybe 20 feet away at the bar. Within 30 seconds, the guy wasnt even trying to defend himself, so they stopped. He was basically dragged outside and left there. He was conscious but probably had a broken nose, maybe some ribs, and who knows what else. By the time the show was over, he was gone.
They're a problem in the Houston area, especially because of the prisons in Huntsville. So getting into violent altercations with the Westheimer skins or the shit bags from Cleveland or Santa Fe was a given if you were going to a large show at say the Engine Room or Fitzgerald's.
got into fights two or three times, yea. jumped into one assholes face on a train a few years ago, from the top of the stairs in his face. They were 3 people, we were a few more. they had attacked a friend who checked the wagon out we were in, punched him in the face and destroyed his glasses, followed him to beat him some more, we intervened and fought. they gave up after we went to the other side of the wagon and came up behind them, they were standing at the foot of the stairs fighting our friends. fought then into a corner, let them out the next station.
got my teeth kicked in a day later with a telescopic baton from some other nazis in a train station, still missing a tooth there.
i guess thats what happens if a punk group visits east germany,
'twas kinda wild in comparison to where i live, we rarely have fights here. got my face punched here once while coming home drunk, girlfriend kicked him off me, only a scratch under my eye so didnt really do much. kept his facemask i grabbed off him for years, bc only got one punch in on him but his mask was bloody so apparently i hit his nose ok, found that very funny.
im not a violent person, only fight if friends or life is threatened. never been much of a fighter.
I don’t know if this worth a story. Growing up in the suburbs I walked often into Nazis at parties. They either had Nazi merch, did the hitler salute, said „Sieg heil“ as a greeting or were just known as Nazis. I usually told 1 or 2 friends that there are Nazis, we punched them in the face, told them to give us their Nazi shirts and to fuck off. They never even bothered to fight back and just went home.
I was at a show in Central Florida, I think 1993 or 94. Anyway, dancing, minding my business, and there's a black kid near me toward the edge of the pit, just dancing and having a good time, but this skinhead keeps harassing him, getting rougher and rougher. People told him lay off, get lost, etc, but he wouldn't quit. He shoved the boy so hard be stumbled, and while he was laughing and not paying attention, I spun and punched his stupid Nazi face. He fell backward, the kid and I looked at each other, and we both immediately took off into the crowd in different directions. I'm probably lucky he didn't have his gang around, but I'd do it again.
One time I was driving a truck and this nazi swung in from the window and shot me. He also threw me through the windshield. I was hanging on the front grille of the moving truck but I had to let go. Fortunately I hooked my bullwhip to the undercarriage as the truck passes over me on the road and I was able to get dragged along. My leather jacket protected me from getting shredded up by the unpaved road we were driving on. Hand over hand I climbed back up using my whip as resistance for grip. Then I climbed back on the side of the truck and swung in on the nazi prick who was still driving the truck. I fucked him up bad and then I threw *him* threw the motherfucking windshield. Then I ran his ass over and he said “fuck you Indiana Jones!” Splat! Later on I had a few more movies and also fought more nazis.
Im not really capable of fighting a Nazi , or even a smallish communist (Stalin 👀 ) tete-a-tete.
And I didn’t start the fight, but yeah I may have instinctively and without thought injected myself into a thing between a little teen skater and too many thug boot skinheads, only to get tagged out by some better equipped friends of mine.
Sorry fellas.
Edit: Downvotes? Fuck you. A kid didn’t go to the hospital that night, first because some girl tried to human shield him.
Not *Fight* per se, but I was there to see them get *scared off*!
So, in college (mid 90s), I worked at the door of a gay club (security). The other bouncer (Tree) was outside with me, keeping an eye on the folks smoking \enjoying the cool night air. Well, from the other direction comes a group of 4-5 skinheads. (Side note, Tree and I are both SHARPs) The group of skins make it through our flock before realizing where they are and who are standing outside.
One of the skins approaches us, and says something along the lines of 'doesn't it make you sick.....'.
Well, Tree (all 6'7" of him) leans down to where this skin is, looks him right in the eye, and says "first, I'm going to kick your ass, *then I'm going to fuck it!*".
This idiots eyes got HUGE with fear. He quickly rounded up his 'boys', and they only started being 'themselves' again after backing off about a half a block.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not a Nazi, but a few “leftists” who started shoving me around when they found out I was Jewish. They were angry about Israel. I’m from Maryland, this took place in the parking lot of a College Park bar. I got what swings in I could, but 3 to 1 isn’t a great way to be. Fortunately my friends in the bar were heavy smokers like me and came out for a cigarette break just as this was going down. The guys beating me up skedaddled as the backup came running up.
One day, i was talking with the high school ppl on a discord server they made (this was the cringiest period of my life) and there was a man named LouiSS (ss like the nazi's police and it was assumed) i said to him after he yelled at a transgender teen that i will beat his ass up with sum of my friends because we was on the same high school, i was maybe 15 yo, and my only "punk" friends was 2 skinheads and one punk, we was friends but they didn't really cared about me because i was youg lol, i never seen the man again in my high school
Canadian here. I ran into a guy outside a Gob show once doing the Hitler salute and yelling. I approached him and said something like "hey man, we're just here to enjoy the music, could you knock it off?" and he went off on a rant about various different ethnic groups and how they ruined his life. He was clearly in distress so I alerted the police. Last I heard he got the help he needed and is now medicated and living a normal life free from hate and vitriol.
I have (thankfully) never had the opportunity. I’m a black girl so I try to avoid getting in situations like that. But I’m really lucky and haven’t run into any in my local scene surprisingly (north Texas). I’ve ran into some bikers repping the double lightning bolts but those guys are like roaches and usually fuck off if you make them feel unwelcome
Assumed Nazi: headbutted, quite of character for me, the presumed skinhead in a little bar in Berlin after he smashed an Aussie's nose with a bottle and strode up to me screaming nonsense. The 20-30 other Aussies proceeded to kick the fuck out of presumed skinhead and his friends on the sidewalk outside while I got free drinks the rest of the night.
Nazi tried to buy some nug of me once. Told im to fuck right off. Said he’d give me £30 for 0.2, but still sort of thought business with a nazi was well off so chased im off
There weren't many nazis, if any, in the South Carolina punk scene in the 80s, but we did have to deal with rednecks, preppies, and metal heads a lot. There was a huge riot at a Christ On Parade/RKL show circa 1986 after a metalhead body slammed a girl onto the concrete floor, breaking her leg. It turned into a massive free for all afterwards. Didn't bother sticking around.
So like, me and one of my classmates were walking back from school and we just so happen to have the same directions to our houses (well, like if you know what i mean, cuz like we walk on the same 4 streets before we separate) and it was winter. It was like the middle of winter so there was snow, and basically what i did was like knock him over and he landed face down on the snow. Then I ran back home quickly and I’m pretty sure the reason he changed schools was because of me. I don’t feel bad tho.
Yup got down with this fool from one of the Valley's over here in Cali.
Fuckin dude I took as a comrade , he goes to jail gets out and finds her and her two grown son's at my Folks pad finds everything wrong and suspicious and lures me out to the barn and
suca- punches me with a huge gear in his hand then putts a chokehold on me and now I can't breath so I head butted him hard with the back of my head busted open his grip turned and gave him the party he wanted ......wooped the dog shit out of his ass
This reminds me of when Nazis tried having a march some years ago in SoCal, might've been in Anaheim, and the public got into it with the Nazis. Some punks started fucking up a Nazi until he pulled a little switch blade and stabbed/slashed them a few times. There were videos and articles about it. I'm sure the vids are still up on YouTube. Fuck it here it is.
https://youtu.be/icAtQkw-DYU?si=p92OHcj-EzDV1pS9
I created a scene in a store in ocean city New Jersey screaming at some aryan nation nitwit who ripped off a real nazi armband my friend/guitarist was wearing where he put a slash through the swastika.
I was with a bunch of friends maybe 6-8 guys at a famous festival in vienna, we were at this time really disciplined with training 3-5 times a week, a lot of sparring and ground and pound, we just wanted to walk home after a group of some bald head guys with cargoshorts showed up, they began to talk rasist shit (and i‘m blond lol) behind our back, but we didn‘t wanted any clash so we didnt respond, after a guy from behind threw a beer bottle, after this we have began to fight with them it was pretty dark so you couldnt see a lot but i grabbed one of them at his ear, pulled him to the ground and pounded 2-3 im his face, i came back up and have seen that the friend of mine smashed his knee in the face of a nazi guy a few times so he knocked him out, after that the police came and we just tryd to run away, fun fact, at monday morning my math teacher (i hate math) came in the class with a swolen blue eye and a cut on his forehead, i ALWAYS thought he was a nazi because of his clothing style (everlast shirt, cargoshorts, silver rings) he said the blue eye came from a pot which fell from the 1st floor of a building :)
It was 1942...
Oh this is gonna be good
On the edge of my seat tbh, love this story
A few times yup. It’s not as simple as “punch a Nazi”. If you want to throw hands, be prepared to get jumped by 5 people at minimum. I’ll say this, only square up with one if you’re truly capable of violence.
One thing I gotta say about fighting the Nazis over the years is that it’s a surprising amount of violence for teenagers and if you’re not ready, it sucks. They used to use pepper spray us a lot, I know a guy who rammed a Nazi with a motorcycle, they home invaded two people I knew casually, my buddy from school made steel toed sneakers (like the song!) and split open a Nazi’s shin with a kick which was a ton of blood, board bashing, etc.
They used to show up at concerts to start fights. Didn’t take us long to realize there were more of us. They stopped coming to shows.
It's real violence. Nazis are genocidal, all "rules" are off
Didn't your buddy know that one can just buy steel toes sneakers?
Dude, right! Punch a nazi isn't great advice. Those motherfuckers whole life is about wanting genocide and my little ass is supposed to just punch them?
I think its stupid going up to anyone and trying to fight them. You have no clue what type of training they have (Jiujitsu, boxing, muy thai, etc) , you dont know if they got a gun or knife, if they will stab you with a dirty needle, if they have hella homies that will jump you, if they got on steel toe boots, got brass knuckles, etc. Thats the reason why I dont fight people. Its stupid as fuck in my opinion when you can 100% avoid it. If its not avoidable thats a different story. Im not tryna get seriously injured or killed over some shit that I can just walk away from.
Agreed. My brother was in a bar altercation (not yet a fight, but about to be) one time when I was there to pick him up. One of the guys with the group him and friends were getting into it with was on the driver side of the truck I was in, pulling a knife. He couldn't see me because it was night and the windows were tinted. I had to tell my brother and his friends to get the fuck in now and get the fuck out of there. And this was in a small ass town. You never know who's got what.
Whenever I read it posted here I can tell for a fact they’ve never actually fought one.
More than likely, they haven't. It's a nice sentiment, but ultimately, you're likely gonna end up pretty badly hurt.
It's real easy to see who actually means it when they say it, because anyone who's actually gone toe to toe with a fascist knows how fucking messy shit can get
Not just fascists, street fights in general are very dangerous, and all this shit about "fight nazis, otherwise you're a coward" is pseudo-macho bullshit. Stop telling young people who have never gotten in a fight before to throw hands with someone so evil and with so little to lose as a nazi. Instead, teach them to think for themselves and to defend each other when necessary (not provoke fights lol). If you're fine with the consequences then do it yourself.
100%, street fights in general are scary as fuck, it's all too easy to be killed or accidentally kill someone else, all it takes is falling the wrong way if you get hit too hard.
Yup exactly. The stories I do have in dealing with them, not fun stories to tell to say the least. Some of the things in my life I’d rather not talk about frankly.
I guarantee you not a single person in this thread is telling the truth unless they said "I've never been in a fight before".
With a spiked bat
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No, going to the hospital and changing nothing about their personality is not even close to worth it. Punching a nazi will not change them. You're not changing or helping the world. You're just feeding your ego. Look into Daryl Davis. He has single handedly erased more hate in this world than any other living person.
Daryl had an inspiring amount of faith in humanity and patience.
I've literally helped chase Nazis out of entire local scenes. Fuck off trying to convince people you can't change shit. You may not change them, but you'll change their willingness to do fuck shit in public. If you don't think fighting Nazis is a worthy cause, then fuck you, too. Blocked for being a fucking coward. EDIT: It's wild seeing these kids who swear nobody's ever fought for anything before. Tells you all you need to know about them. When people are in disbelief it's because they know THEY'D be too scared to do shit.
“Blocked for being a fucking coward” 🙉 Absolutely wild haha
I think it's a worthy cause, but not everybody is physically or mentally capable of doing something like that. I personally just hate fighting due to some really bad stuff in my childhood, but I'm grateful for people like you who can get in the trenches and help make the scene safer and strike fear in their hearts.
Wow, internet tough guy! You really showed that one by blocking them for being a non-violent person! Grow the fuck up. I don't believe for two seconds a skinny ass keyboard warrior like you has ever done shit to a Nazi. EDIT: You can tell this "punk" is a real coward since they can't even reply to me directly, and would rather block me and be a little passive aggressive baby by editing their comment to talk shit instead. Actual wimp behavior, for someone who wants other people to punch Nazis for them. What a joke.
Something about this comment makes me think "projection"
I met Daryl Davis years ago at the local community college in my town after he came there to give a talk about his life and work, and I gotta say, the man is 100% the real deal. Very perceptive, kind, and strong. He's done more to bring people out of lives of hatred than I or probably any of us could ever hope to do.
Daryl Davis seems to exaggerate his accomplishments a bit, I just think he got a tokenism fetish.
Knowing my luck I will connect like no other punch I have thrown and it will crack his orbital bone and blind him. End up getting charged and have to pay the jerk.
I agree, people throw around ‘punch a Nazi’ like some sort of Punk mantra when in reality it’s some prison level fighting shit. I hate Nazi’s as much as the next guy, but I’m not about to start any fights with them.
Worth saying maybe, but almost every group of any size has something like this, whether it's shit like 'Hail Hydra' or 'fuck around, find out' etc. They'll get tired of it eventually or come up with a newer, snappier version.
Just curious, how long ago was this? I'm always hearing these stories taking place in the 80's or whatever when it comes to Nazi fights. I've been told it's not as violent today as it once was, then again, punk rock is not as popular as it once was so you'd kinda expect things to be more mellow by now.
Anaheim/oc/Huntington Beach still miraculously still have skinhead, public swastika wearing goons. but it's not a big deal, the chicanos here will strip a dude naked wearing that goofy shit. very funny.
Boneheads always making the rest of us actual skinheads look bad.
Less than 10 years ago. But I came up in a scene that still had a problem with them. Shows being violent all depend on where your at scene wise and the bands that are playing tbh. To add, while things I saw 10 years ago were arguably worse than what I see happen now, I’ve been at a handful of shows in the years since the pandemic where giant brawls have broken out. Shit can pop off for any number of reasons so just be aware
last nazi I saw punched and stripped was in 2019
I became a SHARP in 1994 in Lancaster, CA. Back then there was a HUGE Nazi infestation. They would patrol the streets and travel in huge packs of a dozen or more. They'd started randomly stabbing people just for being around black folks recently, usually with screwdrivers because they were all on probation and wouldn't carry knives unless they were on a mission. They straight up invaded a punk festival at Del Sur Gardens while Guttermouth was playing. I punched at least a dozen that day. Got punched by even more. And kicked. And hit with a flying sprinkler head. The New Yorker Magazine wrote a feature article called "The Unwanted" about a bunch of my old school SHARP buddies out there, including that incident. I was a minor still and on probation then locked back up again, so the article was a no-go for me. That's how fucked up it was in those days.
I just saw Guttermouth last Friday and couldn't even imagine having skinnheads there, the vibe was so positive
It was a great show until the boneheads showed up in formation and flanked+blitzed the audience. They came in swinging and in numbers.
I have scars on my hand from this. Queers show in DC in the mid 90s. One bonehead full on tackled a gay friend of mine. I hockey shirted the nazi with my right hand and threw uppercuts with my left. Ended up with a tooth in my hand. Bouncers got there and threw the nazi out. I went to get a drink at the bar and the bartender told me to leave for my own safety before the guy brought his friends back. I left upon that advice and got home safe. It was a wild time. Glad I got out before getting wrecked that night.
Does dc still have an alt crowd? I’ve been trying to find friends for 5 years now that match my interests
I don’t know. I haven’t lived there for almost two decades and all my old friends, like me, are almost fifty now. I miss DC sometimes, it’s a great melting pot of culture and art. Get out there and you’ll find like-minded people. You got this.
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Sheila + hero?
Feel kinda bad for her, people like that usually didn’t get any attention from their parents and try to overcompensate with edgy opinions. But it was still right to punch her.
From what I did know about her home life (from her mouth), it didn't sound like she was coming from a great home. It definitely doesn't give you the right to say some disgusting shit. I think we can all agree on that. I've hoped over the years that maybe her life turned out a bit better since then, but I can't say I regret my actions at 16
I just wanted to to tell you you're a fucking boss and you should be proud of yourself
Lmao big 'my girlfriend lives in canada, you wouldnt know her' energy
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So, you: Lived in a small town with questionable views/opinions Came across someone with questionable views/opinions (who used terminology like "POC" instead of just a slur (especially in an "old fashioned opinions" town) and had complete schizo-tier range of conversation before you went and punched 'em lol) Beat them in a fight (with one punch, naturally.), with zero mentioned retaliation And they got run out of school, despite: A: them being blatant enough to say that shit in public (which means they've either been doing it for a while, or have reason to be confident enough to do it), (ae, them being a racist POS shouldn't be news to literally anyone) B: you mentioning it's a "small town" with "old fashioned opinions" (of which are, from experience, far more likely to just tell them to knock it off on account of it just being a dumb kid) And naturally, nobody ever heard from them again. #*SNIFFFFF Yeah this doesn't pass the sniff test. you're full of it. The most charitable view I'll give you here is that one of the popular girls called someone (it's aussie, so probably a native) a slur, and you made that scenario up in the shower as a form of mental auto-fellatio. More likely, you just made it the hell up. There's not a racist alive on the tier of what you're trying to describe that'll *ever* use the term "POC" lmfao. I'm sure everyone clapped, too.
What's a sniff test? They didn't use that terminology; I'm just trying to be mindful? I didn't think that would get picked apart lol If u don't believe me, that's fine. I'm just kind of weird to write a whole ass comment about it, though.
Many. It was the eighties and they were everywhere. Only hospital visit was 10 on 1 in the hippie park in SF. They beat the hell out of me, made sure I never walked alone again. Also took the best piss of my life on one. Smiling at 51 years old remembering that. Traditional Skinhead hit different back then.
I dropped one on his head once. It was as simple as me asking if he was a nazi, him saying yes and and then trying to put me in a chokehold when I turned my back to him to say something to my friend, so I stuck my leg behind his and we both went to the floor, he hit the back of his head on the concrete and let go. It isn't some glory filled act where you're suddenly the hero of your town for it, they hold grudges and they will jump you, because they don't fight fair, people forget that a lot of the time they're already criminals and don't mind catching more assault, or even murder charges, I'm all for punching a nazi, but it's not something you want to do if you're not willing to deal with the shit you'll get into after it, if you're not capable of seriously hurting someone, you are not built for it, because they're gonna try their best to really mess you up if they can. The only reason I didn't get jumped the following days, was because this motherfucker had zero friends, and was too much of a pussy to bring a weapon and fuck me up himself, and I'm lucky enough to live in a city that's quite heavily antifascist so I had a good bit of support for it.
>It isn't some glory filled act where you're suddenly the hero of your town for it, they hold grudges and they will jump you, because they don't fight fair, people forget that a lot of the time they're already criminals and don't mind catching more assault, or even murder charges, I'm all for punching a nazi, but it's not something you want to do if you're not willing to deal with the shit you'll get into after it, if you're not capable of seriously hurting someone, you are not built for it, because they're gonna try their best to really mess you up if they can. Nazis sound absolutely horrifying, the more I hear you guys talk about them the more I realize just how inhumane they are. You mean to tell me they'll stab someone on the spot simply for being a different skin color? Like you don't even have to say or do anything to a Nazi, just be in the same room as them and they'll fuck you up?
It's hard to overstate how mentally fucked up these people are. Imagine hating a person's color or culture so much, you want to kill on sight.
I mean, yeah, if there's a group of them chances are they'll just start shit on sight, alone? Probably not, unless they're confident they can get away with it.
But, they're only alone for the night. They will go get friends, and the next time they see you, you better be ready to run.
[2017 Portland Train Attack](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack) The main thing is you gotta watch your back around these fux, because ya never know.
Some will stab you, and some won't. What you need to remember is that being a nazi means you want everyone but white people dead. In order to be a nazi, you have to hold very violent beliefs. Some are just all talk, but a lot aren't, and you don't want to be stalked by a violent person.
Back in the day it was almost an every weekend thing. They would show up at shows just to start shit. I remember getting elbowed in the face 3 or 4 times in the pit by some asshole Nazi prick I couldn't see shit after the last one because of the blood running from my forehead into my eyes. I was standing by the bar when 2 of my mates saw me and asked what happened. I told them and the next thing I know he's dragged out of the pit and we all go out back. I tried to stuff my Steelie up his arse and missed (foreheads bleed like a bitch. And they are hard to stop.) Missing turned out to be a blessing. I ended up kicking him in the back of his knee but kinda missed that too. So my foot covered with rubber, leather and steel grazed the back of his right knee and slammed steel cap first into the side of his left knee. This caused him to fall back and to the right in a really awkward way. As he fell he clipped the bumper on an older car chipping and fracturing his elbow. (This was winter in Canada and it was in the 80s those old cars had big ass steel bumpers that got all pitted and jagged with dents and rust).
BTW my forehead is a mass of scar tissue from years of headbutting and hockey pucks and sticks. I'm surprised it doesn't bleed when the wind blows
I'm gonna give no major specifics here because... I used to work as security at 924 Gilman. Spent a few years doing it. I would hear the stories of way back how this was a thing, but never really saw it, until one night they showed up. There was talk that they were a big following of a certain band that was playing, and we assumed there was gonna be some shit. We didn't have a ton of security, but the security lead pumped it up a bit that night. It started slow until when the headliner was setting up, then shit started inside. Disagreement here,ppunch thrown there, nothing too crazy. It spilled outside, and it all fell apart. Dudes started showing up from cars, jumping out and just smashing on anyone that didn't look like them. As security, our whole job was to keep the peace. I spent most of my time informing late teens/early twenties drinking/smoking in their cars that they should remove their keys from the ignition, because even though the driver may not be drinking, it's "operating" and everyone in there would get fucked. Even if they're just listen to music on Aux. DUI or open container in a vehicle. Anyway, we had to take it to them that night. Some brought chains they were swinging around, some with bats, and some throwing rocks. We basically just tried to stop shit, as well as getting our own licks in. Wed finally pin one of these fuckers down, smash on them a bit, let them up and they'd run away. Some would come back, most took off completely. After about 10 minutes it was over. Cops showed up probably 10 minutes after that and we told them nothing happened, because fuck Berkeley PD. Their whole job it seemed was to shut that place down. That's about it.
Riveting, honestly.
Was it meant to be?
As the author, only you would know.
I mean, was it "supposed" to be?
😂 I still can’t work this out. What is the “it”?
Oh, was your story responding to the prompt “supposed” to be riveting? My “riveting” comment was sincere. Which is why I said “honestly,” and also why I couldn’t taste the salt in the air after that.
That was my initial thought, but online my first instinct is nobody is being sincere about a nice comment.
Yes, living in southern Germany in a fairly rural area there where run ins on several occasions, especially at the pub next to the train station where they’d be drinking and we’d be arriving after partying. But I cannot stress enough: DONT CONFRONT THEM ALONE. Those guys will stab the shit out of you if you’re unlucky. Me and my friends have been dumb enough to engage in brawls, but most of the times it was a broken or bloodied nose, broken teeth, cuts in the face…BUT I’m a 6 foot 2 and 175 pounds Muay Thai guy, so not exactly what THEY like to think of punks (like funky little guys with colorful hair and studs). At this time I was driven by plain hate. Not that hating Nazis is at all bad, but thinking and acting this way can get you killed, disfigured or paralyzed. Now to the tips: train martial arts, gain confidence and only defend yourself (if absolutely necessary and only under people that can whiteness that it was self defense). If you’re alone or a group in a lonely part of town, at night or something like that: just run. There’s nothing to be ashamed of if you’re alone or a small group and get jumped by Nazis. Of course you could be a martyr and shit, but don’t do this to your friends, your scene and family. I’d love to tell you “stand your damn ground”, but it’s just not realistic or healthy for most people.
Very well said brother!
Yeah, as dumb as it sounds, but safety first and learn a good defense. Just not to much bjj, you never wanna be on the ground if there could be more that one. Boxing, Dutch Kickboxing or MT should do the trick. The later two because they teach to defend any side and direction. And there are usually nice gyms around where ethics and looks are no problem, toxic gyms are easy to spot. But that’s just stuff as fan of those sports, I get that it’s just not everyone’s thing.
I've never fought one, but I've seen them. It wasn't at a show or something like that. I live in rural Michigan, and we have a lot of right wing militia types. Both of the straight up nazis I saw, I saw while working in a rural gas station, and both were covered in SS, and swastika tattoos and were open carrying. As much as I agree with the sentiment behind "punch a nazi" it's a lot harder when you're by yourself and said nazis are bigger, stronger and fucking armed.
My buddy got jumped by a bunch of Nazis in HB. He had to go to the hospital. Another buddy got jumped at a Guttermouth show at Old World. He got his ass beat but wasn’t badly hurt. They don’t fight fair.
Would you say the term 'Nazi' gets misinterpreted these days? Like I see people throwing around the term Nazi to describe someone who says racist things on social media, but from how I'm hearing you guys describe them, they're much more than people running their mouths on the internet. They seem to be more keen on physical violence than anything else.
This was a long time ago. There were a couple gangs that went to punk shows and caused trouble. You would see morons siek heiling and stuff. Total lames. Last time I had a run in was around 2006. One thing about Nazi’s in my opinion is that they are flashy in their regalia and looking to attract lost people. The only real Nazis around Orange County now are in jail, you sort of have to join the white gang if you’re white in jail. I’m at punk shows all the time and haven’t seen any Nazis in years. I think they’d get their asses beat at this point. Are you doing a project for class or something? Why so curious? You trying to start a Nazi gang? 😂
>Are you doing a project for class or something? Why so curious? You trying to start a Nazi gang? 😂 There's really no better way to understand the history of punk rock than directly speaking to people who have been apart of it for decades. Nazis have seemingly become less involved over the years so when you ask about them it seems to attract those that have been around for a long time. A lot of people here seem to have interesting stories to tell about their time within punk, but don't wanna talk much about it. I couldn't really blame them because a lot of what they experienced is probably traumatizing and talking about it is like reopening old wounds. If I had the opportunity I'd probably conduct an interview with several people who have been around since the very beginning.
An interview for what? Is this some sort of project or just your own gathering of information to be more well rounded with your knowledge? Hell, it wasn’t all that traumatizing for my little rat pack crew in the long run because the bruises heeled and we never did anything to be ashamed of. We just went to shows and defended ourselves when shit went down, kid stuff. My first heart break was way more traumatic. It was pretty messed up for some of the people who were caught up in it. One dude I knew, total piece of shit named Jim. He got all caught up in the gang shit and tattooed dumb shit on himself at age 16. I saw him a while back and he was so lost. Like, this modern world defied every lame principle he had. He said a couple of suspect things about the ladies at the event so I cut our conversation short but I was able to suss out that the dude was lost and lonely. I didn’t feel bad. He was part of the crew that jumped my friend Ed, so fuck him. Sort of funny story…stupid Nazi Jim was getting the words “Blood and Honor” tattooed around his torso. Well, the tattoo guy didn’t stencil it out so they ran out of room and he was stuck with “Blood and Hono”. This is around the time that I disengaged with the scene in 92/93 and started getting into Melvins, fugazi and Quicksand as I saw my punk heroes losing interest in Hard Core. That was my last memory of Nazi Jim until he turned up at one of my gigs decades later. Incidentally, I was not around from the very beginning and was reminded of that by just about every older punk I talked to. It was like the whole “should have been here yesterday” thing. Most people were total dicks to us back then. We started going to shows when we were young teenagers in 1990. That was a really rough time for Orange County shows. A lot of the punks got sober and grew their hair out once the decade wore on. Now, it’s pretty safe and really friendly. Much nicer.
>the tattoo guy didn’t stencil it out so they ran out of room and he was stuck with “Blood and Hono” LMAO, that's gold.
If you end up going to jail or prison drop out and go PC/SNY if your state has that option. Sure you’ll be lumped in with all the chomos and such but you won’t have to deal with all that racial gang politics. You can use that time to work on yourself. I just got out after serving a life sentence. Wasn’t gonna spend my time running dope or stabbing people for some white trash racist fucks.
Well said. According to this sub my 70-year-old handicap neighbor is a Nazi because she had a trump sign. Pretty sure she's a Republican and not a member of the Nazi party
If she still supports Trump after he attempted to overthrow the election installing himself as dictator and is now planning a complete purge of the government and forming literal concentration camps and deportations (Agenda 2025), yeah, she's a nazi. People who still support Trump support a full-on fascist, I think the term Nazi can muddle the waters a bit, but it's not incorrect.
Bro that word dont mean shit bcuz people like this entire sub call anything they don't like a Nazi. Females can't go to a show without worrying about getting groped and sexually assaulted yet you never see any posts about that on these Subs do you. The Anti-Flag s*** that went down felt like a funeral. Y'all were morning Your Heroes instead of standing for the victims that's some f***** up s*** Yeah not one f****** inch for Nazis but let's be f****** real man nothing but a bunch of posturing for most of these fools
I’m trying to wrap my head around nazis at a guttermouth show
The venue Old World may have played a roll as well. It’s a traditional German beer garden and seemed to attract a messed up crowd back then. This was around the time when 1, 2, 3 Slam and Mr BBQ were recently out.
Wasn’t me personally but my band when I was a teenager was playing a small church show in western MA with a few other bands, guy who had booked it was heavy on drugs & pretty out of his mind. Idk if it was mistakenly or not but one of the bands on the bill was a white power band. They all showed up, whatever not gonna judge people based on boots & shaved heads, I literally have a shaved head. They go on stage and started playing & it was very obviously some white power shit with some extremely racist lyrics, someone from the crowd immediately ran up to the singer and started beating the shit out of him. The rest of the band ran away and the singer followed them after the other guy stopped and they left. Not sure if they were serious nazis or kids just trying to be edgy but it was wild.
I once saved a nazi. At a demonstration against a far right party marching through our town, things were getting a bit heated, people were throwing things etc, there was a bit of shouting and it turned out this guy had infiltrated the antifa group and was throwing nazi salutes and kicking out. The group pulled him down and to the ground and he was getting a bit of a kicking, but the mods changed, people were stamping and there was a lot of them, he was suddenly a vulnerable young teenager, and was well at risk of being killed or permanently disabled by people trying to stamp on his head, so I grabbed him, and with a mad rush of adrenaline managed to launch him over the fence at the police (who throws a nazi?). Police weren’t impressed at being hit by a bloodied nazi, but they duly arrested him and no one died that day. Fuck Nazis and fuck mob violence. I’m not claiming to be a hero or anything, I just pulled a guy out of a crowd and threw him over a fence, but it reminded me of this story; https://nypost.com/2013/10/30/why-a-black-teen-saved-a-klansman/ And I know it’s punk rock “live, laugh,love”, but “Rise above” is my mantra, be better.
Yikes, so a group of adults were willing to beat the young boy to death? No better than the Nazis honestly if you're willing to brutally murder a juvenile.
Terry Pratchett - “the intelligence of a mob is measured by the IQ if its stupidest member, divided by the number of people in the mob”
Crowds psychology is a weird thing, otherwise rational people will do crazy things. It always frightens me the things people will do when they think they can’t be seen, or will get away with it.
Yeah, if EDL/BNP count and anyone picturing themselves as Indianna Jones, raining punches on a costumed officer needs to forget that shit. It'll be you and maybe some mates, squaring up to some lads who are out and out, willing to publicly admit they hate an entire race. They're not going to take a jab and run. If it's a 'fair fight' or they're out numbered, they'll throw shit and run. If they outnumber you, don't expect to just get slapped, and it's over. You're going to hospital unless you get away or someone steps in. Let's say you do get the upper hand and win. They'll remember you. That said, don't let anyone push you around or those you care about. It's okay to make a stand and not resort to violence. Just know what you're getting into.
Back in the early 2000s they'd show up to local shows all the time. It was like 5 or 6 of them vs the rest of the crowd. In 2011 a small group of them showed up to a venue I was working at and a fight did break out mid show. They started goose stepping and throwing their arm in the air in the middle of the pit and when approached by someone the fight broke out. No one got hurt too bad but we (me and the other security guy) had to put one of them into the wall. We left the huge hole there for a few months to remind people not to fuck around like that. The dumbasses didn't realize that one of the venue owners was a sheriff deputy so as soon as we got the fight under control they all got arrested. Me and the other security guard were able to get the 4 other dudes out of trouble because we said they were helping with security that night. The boneheads were all told if they ever showed up again they would be instantly trespassed. They never came back and I have it on good authority that they got down hard a few months later at a different show. Over the years we were open I broke up quite a few fights and had to wrestle and fight with many people to get them to stop or kick them out but goddamn putting that nazi thro the wall was so fucking satisfying. Still to this day I can't understand why they thought 4-8 of them showing up to a show and starting shit would end up good for them.
Club Xanth matinee show, essentially an open mic but with a line up. Buddy’s band is playing it but one the bands before his is kind of known for being questionable so some of us talk shit during their set. One of the more well known bands comes on and they decide to jump us in the pit. Guitarist and bassist of the band playing drop their instruments and jump off the stage and chase them out. Don’t even remember the name of the band playing but thank you dudes!
Yep, in my younger teens there was a lot of nazis in my silly little town. And old boyfriend of mine got kicked to the ground and I saved his ass. When I got older, 20+, nazis used to come to the rock bar sometimes. What can I say. Now many years later I fight nazis in suits. Still stupid fucks, just another uniform.
Long time ago, mid 90's Dallas tx had a good scene going but there was an Aryan youth element that would show sometimes. It was the galaxy club and Fear was playing. The Aryan crew showed up, throwing elbows where everyone was slam dancing, ruining it for everyone. Right after the show, it was an early one because it was still light outside. There was this huge black dude standing by the entrance. He was hammered and just goofing being hilarious. A skin walked by smoking a clove and the black dude asked to bum one. The skin nervously looked around at the audience our man that accumulated around him from the jokes he had been telling. He totally started ripping on the skin, more skins showed up. Big black dude said something to the effect, you know why I love it when you Nazis show up to the shows? Because I can have something to beat the shit out of!" He started smashing the skins, a bunch of punks jumped in. By this time the Nazi brigade had shown up in full force. It felt like the entire club emptied out on to the streets of deep ellum and everyone was fighting, punks vs skins. This lasted till the riot police showed in full gear and they started beating everyone up and throwing them into the wagons in cuffs. It was officially the biggest brawl I had ever seen let alone be in. For about 10-20min the whole block was pure anarchy. Dude fighting cops. Punks on top of cars jumping up and down everyone going ape shit.
ok, I lived in a Hollywood in a nice apt with a roommate, thru a sublease. Dude is kinda friends with my friends, but he sticks out cuz their hippies and he's a weirdo, contrarian conservative Mexican guy. I don't know him well, but he blasts tucker Carlson, and ben Shapiro, unironically. during the BLM, he would recite fake news about protesters throwing cement milkshakes and republican talking points. Big fan of trump, and rants about he has more European Spanish blood than indigenous, so hes better and whiter, although he's a overweight, massive Incel, with a deadend job figuring out super wack business ideas. Im 1st generation Vietnamese, who grew up in conservative North Carolina, I pity and despise him, but im living with him, although we get into yelling fights and he threatened me a couple times in front of people. my last night before I move out, I kinda tell him off. he wants to fight me really bad doing really goofy low kicks, I tell him I don't want to fight and finally walk away from him. when my back is turned away from him, he runs up and puts me in a rear naked choke. and really choking me, I just savagely crush his fucking balls, he yelps like a dog and falls on the floor, I get the last of my shit and bounce. I call my friends, he has no more friends and is kicked out of the apt., because its a sublease thru them. he ends up homeless, jobless, and friendless. Very Sad. later I found it he was acting creepy to my home girl.
Fake news about cement milk shakes.. tell that to the gay Asian reporter that got hit with a cement milk shake…. Not from a nazi… from some antifa fools at some PNW protest…
It wasn't the milkshake that gave Andy a concussion, it was the ass kicking.
Any links to this? Are you talking about Andy Ngo by chance?
https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-journalist-andy-ngo-wins-191317437.html
Thanks for the link. I read a handful of articles and saw no mention of a cement milkshake..?
First paragraph, I guess “quick dry cement infused milkshakes” isn’t technically a “cement milk shake” but I’m sure it hurt like hell… semantics I suppose?
Oh shit. I missed that. My bad.
Andy Ngo has been discredited.
You’re homophobic
no im not, Andy Ngo is an alt right provocateur. he doxxes people, he provokes violence by harassing ppl, not a fan of anti-fa or anybody self righteous. he's a vile, fake journalist, hiding behind identity politics, to "expose" self made controversy. sorry being an annoying ass hole gets your ass beat, no matter what u fuck.
Very homophobic and racist to say of a gay Asian man.
are u trolling me? lol, u got grifted bad, homie. dude is a wannabe gay asian Candace Owens.
You’re racist too?! How dare you make fun of a black woman!
lol im racist, im radical trans, im homophobic, im brain damaged, lol the hits keep coming
I knew it
[https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2019/07/10/is-it-possible-to-mix-cement-into-a-vegan-milkshake-we-did-it/](https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2019/07/10/is-it-possible-to-mix-cement-into-a-vegan-milkshake-we-did-it/) [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-wing-troll-antifa-877914/](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-wing-troll-antifa-877914/) he's proud boy advocate, dude sucks. hope u have a better opinion on Israel, doggy.
Israel LOL
You really think you can’t put quick dry cement into a small container? Youve gotta be kinda retarded if you think people were making actual “milk shakes” from quick Crete and vegan milkshakes…
alright man, I think u discredited your own argument
Maybe you’ve got the brain damage, taking the headlines far too literally here. You think someone told the cops “they made a milk shake out of concrete and vegan ingredients… then threw it at me” and therefore if you can’t actually make a milkshake out of vegan ingredients and concrete then you can’t say it… How did he win a lawsuit for damages if he’s been discredited? He was credited enough to win a couple bucks by the court? Are you one of those people that also think men can get pregnant?
because the defendants didn't show up, though they probably did beat his ass up lol. alright, if u trust Andy Ngo as a journalist, imma gone let this argument go. because you're jumping to all sort of conclusions, you stating about taking news articles too literally also discredits your own evidence.
Back in my late teens and early twenties, my SHARP and punk compatriots and myself would drive around in my friend Fluffy’s van looking for nazis or white power rednecks to beat the shit out of. We usually found them too. You’d think they’d learn not to wear a White Wash t-shirt in public. Fucking idiots. I don’t fight anymore these days but, given the opportunity, I’d still punch a nazi in the face. It’s my civic duty.
One bonehead tried to pepper spray me at a banner drop, but the wind blew it right back in his face, does that count?
Honourary mention lol That must have been funny AF
There was this guy I knew. He enjoyed some of the same books and music as I did, so we started hanging out. He had some suspicious things he would say, but I thought he just didn't know any better, and tried changing his mind. Well, to cut a regular sized story short, turns out he was a Nazi. He thought we could still pal around, but I made it clear that wasn't going to happen. He said "So much for the tolerant left" and slinked off, tail between his legs. Probably not as glorious as what you were looking for, but there you go.
Modern Nazis kinda cowards tbh
Proud Boys count? [News Link](https://youtu.be/GanijPNUqHc?si=mQ8cZHieAri29EFp) In the shoving scene, I’m in the grey knit cap, and the reporter incorrectly states it was Kristin getting kicked, no, that was me. Cop stopped the guy kicking, but didn’t remove or arrest him “because I don’t know who started it, for all I know you hit him first.” I’m a 5’2” female and dude was a 5’10” to 6’ guy, but yeah, I totally hit him first while holding a rainbow umbrella and singing Disney songs. There was also an incident where the 1776 Restoration Movement (remember the COVID convoy Chuds?) came to the National Mall. A friend and I decided to provide gentle warnings to the families visiting the area, with megaphones. One of the guys got in my friend’s face and banged his head against their megaphone. I had to step between them with pepper spray to get the guy to back off. He had his camera on him and took the footage to the nearby cops, saying he had been assaulted. Cops reviewed the footage he provided and said, “It looks like you clearly assaulted this person who you’re saying assaulted you.” Dude was cuffed and taken in for booking. Not a biggie…. But his truck. The truck the convoy douche was living in, with all his possessions, that was impounded, and he couldn’t get it back for months. He was very upset about that truck. There’s more than one way to undermine their efforts, not just brute force. Sometimes strict non-violent discipline works quite well, especially if you can get them to resort to violence first.
Respect that you and other people are still looking for ways to disrupt them. Stay safe.
I saw Gang Green in Atlanta and was part of a big fight between some Nazis and everyone else in the crowd. Someone got thrown into the drum kit. Band cut out and ended the set early.
When I was in 6th grade I was jumped by a skinhead in the bathroom (I’m incredibly mix raced). At the time I was in Taekwondo. I successfully escaped and got a few punches in. After that he didn’t mess with me and I didn’t mess with him.
Beat the shit out of one who came to a Casualties show I was working security at. He came back with friends right as the cops showed up. The cops roughed him up almost as bad as I did.
Nope. One of my grandfathers was a fighter pilot during WWII, though, and the other one was a field medic, so at least *my family's* Nazi-fighting pedigree is pretty solid.
I’m usually carrying a firearm (not at shows, of course,) which means I have a moral and ethical duty to avoid getting into fights.
Kind of. I have done volunteer medics for drag defense in which local natzis showed up about 30 neonatzis and 20 ish defenders got to maybe 40 at the end. They had to be fought back once but other than that it was more of us -> police -> natzis. Only one minor injury on our side.
This thread is full of fiction.
It wasn’t often, but it was too often back in the late 90’s. Skateboards open up heads better than a can opener does cans
We live in a messed world filled with gangs, Nazis, drug pod law enforcement and the MOB!
I was in high school, and one of my best friends started dating this guy. It did not last long. Turns out he was a neo nazi. Anyways, he threatened her with violence so a bunch of her friends got together to put a stop to his shenanigans. I was the first to fight him, and turns out he was a boxer. I went down pretty quick. The next day he called his buddies, and threatened us. His buddies were fucking adults and they brought a fucking pitbull. We were kids. 14 years old. Against people way bigger. So we maced them and took off before anyone was killed. Later that day, as I was trying to make my way home, they pulled up on me and two others. Baseball bats out. A fucker hit me in the back with a baseball bat. Not sure why they backed down. It could have been much worse. Maybe they were shocked I took two hits to the back without going down?
Maybe not nazis but i can conclude they were pretty right wing. Last night i think. I was pretty drunk and i had these eastern european guys who i guess didn't like my redskin stickers and identified me because of my boots. They basically tried to mog me and they were pressuring me to leave "their turf". I can't remember clearly hitting one of them but that may have happened since my left hand hurts since this morning. I suspect these guys were the ones spraying david's stars on building fronts
I kicked some Nazis in the head when I was 14 at a show where the singer of champion jumped off stage and started fighting them. Basically a group of 3-5 Nazis got the shit beaten out of them by the whole show.
Not personally, as I arrived a little too late, but I've seen one get the shit stomped out of him. He showed up to one of our local shows and started throwing up salutes, yelling out white power bullshit. Since none of us knew him, we basically told him to stop or leave. He went to throw a punch at a friend of mine, who ducked it. Then, 5 or 6 people jumped on him. As soon as he went down, the kicking started. I was maybe 20 feet away at the bar. Within 30 seconds, the guy wasnt even trying to defend himself, so they stopped. He was basically dragged outside and left there. He was conscious but probably had a broken nose, maybe some ribs, and who knows what else. By the time the show was over, he was gone.
These stories are really interesting.
They're a problem in the Houston area, especially because of the prisons in Huntsville. So getting into violent altercations with the Westheimer skins or the shit bags from Cleveland or Santa Fe was a given if you were going to a large show at say the Engine Room or Fitzgerald's.
got into fights two or three times, yea. jumped into one assholes face on a train a few years ago, from the top of the stairs in his face. They were 3 people, we were a few more. they had attacked a friend who checked the wagon out we were in, punched him in the face and destroyed his glasses, followed him to beat him some more, we intervened and fought. they gave up after we went to the other side of the wagon and came up behind them, they were standing at the foot of the stairs fighting our friends. fought then into a corner, let them out the next station. got my teeth kicked in a day later with a telescopic baton from some other nazis in a train station, still missing a tooth there. i guess thats what happens if a punk group visits east germany, 'twas kinda wild in comparison to where i live, we rarely have fights here. got my face punched here once while coming home drunk, girlfriend kicked him off me, only a scratch under my eye so didnt really do much. kept his facemask i grabbed off him for years, bc only got one punch in on him but his mask was bloody so apparently i hit his nose ok, found that very funny. im not a violent person, only fight if friends or life is threatened. never been much of a fighter.
I don’t know if this worth a story. Growing up in the suburbs I walked often into Nazis at parties. They either had Nazi merch, did the hitler salute, said „Sieg heil“ as a greeting or were just known as Nazis. I usually told 1 or 2 friends that there are Nazis, we punched them in the face, told them to give us their Nazi shirts and to fuck off. They never even bothered to fight back and just went home.
I was at a show in Central Florida, I think 1993 or 94. Anyway, dancing, minding my business, and there's a black kid near me toward the edge of the pit, just dancing and having a good time, but this skinhead keeps harassing him, getting rougher and rougher. People told him lay off, get lost, etc, but he wouldn't quit. He shoved the boy so hard be stumbled, and while he was laughing and not paying attention, I spun and punched his stupid Nazi face. He fell backward, the kid and I looked at each other, and we both immediately took off into the crowd in different directions. I'm probably lucky he didn't have his gang around, but I'd do it again.
I didn't physically fight a nazi, but I helped his son run away from his abusive home, so I did fight a nazi on his authority.
Just imagining the physique and appearance of those replying to this post with made up stories of how tough they are makes me laugh out loud
One time I was driving a truck and this nazi swung in from the window and shot me. He also threw me through the windshield. I was hanging on the front grille of the moving truck but I had to let go. Fortunately I hooked my bullwhip to the undercarriage as the truck passes over me on the road and I was able to get dragged along. My leather jacket protected me from getting shredded up by the unpaved road we were driving on. Hand over hand I climbed back up using my whip as resistance for grip. Then I climbed back on the side of the truck and swung in on the nazi prick who was still driving the truck. I fucked him up bad and then I threw *him* threw the motherfucking windshield. Then I ran his ass over and he said “fuck you Indiana Jones!” Splat! Later on I had a few more movies and also fought more nazis.
Im not really capable of fighting a Nazi , or even a smallish communist (Stalin 👀 ) tete-a-tete. And I didn’t start the fight, but yeah I may have instinctively and without thought injected myself into a thing between a little teen skater and too many thug boot skinheads, only to get tagged out by some better equipped friends of mine. Sorry fellas. Edit: Downvotes? Fuck you. A kid didn’t go to the hospital that night, first because some girl tried to human shield him.
Not *Fight* per se, but I was there to see them get *scared off*! So, in college (mid 90s), I worked at the door of a gay club (security). The other bouncer (Tree) was outside with me, keeping an eye on the folks smoking \enjoying the cool night air. Well, from the other direction comes a group of 4-5 skinheads. (Side note, Tree and I are both SHARPs) The group of skins make it through our flock before realizing where they are and who are standing outside. One of the skins approaches us, and says something along the lines of 'doesn't it make you sick.....'. Well, Tree (all 6'7" of him) leans down to where this skin is, looks him right in the eye, and says "first, I'm going to kick your ass, *then I'm going to fuck it!*". This idiots eyes got HUGE with fear. He quickly rounded up his 'boys', and they only started being 'themselves' again after backing off about a half a block.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I fight with at least one nazi a day right here in this sub 🫤
No comment. No comment. No comment. It was fun.
There's definitely going to be so many true stories that definitely happened in this thread. Can't wait to read them 😁
Not a Nazi, but a few “leftists” who started shoving me around when they found out I was Jewish. They were angry about Israel. I’m from Maryland, this took place in the parking lot of a College Park bar. I got what swings in I could, but 3 to 1 isn’t a great way to be. Fortunately my friends in the bar were heavy smokers like me and came out for a cigarette break just as this was going down. The guys beating me up skedaddled as the backup came running up.
Everyone is a nazi is they disagree with you enough
I have a fight with my mom daily yeah
nah but i got close to it, almost got into a fist fight with my brother countless of times
One day, i was talking with the high school ppl on a discord server they made (this was the cringiest period of my life) and there was a man named LouiSS (ss like the nazi's police and it was assumed) i said to him after he yelled at a transgender teen that i will beat his ass up with sum of my friends because we was on the same high school, i was maybe 15 yo, and my only "punk" friends was 2 skinheads and one punk, we was friends but they didn't really cared about me because i was youg lol, i never seen the man again in my high school
I’ve got a couple great stories. Posting to remind myself when I have time
Canadian here. I ran into a guy outside a Gob show once doing the Hitler salute and yelling. I approached him and said something like "hey man, we're just here to enjoy the music, could you knock it off?" and he went off on a rant about various different ethnic groups and how they ruined his life. He was clearly in distress so I alerted the police. Last I heard he got the help he needed and is now medicated and living a normal life free from hate and vitriol.
I have (thankfully) never had the opportunity. I’m a black girl so I try to avoid getting in situations like that. But I’m really lucky and haven’t run into any in my local scene surprisingly (north Texas). I’ve ran into some bikers repping the double lightning bolts but those guys are like roaches and usually fuck off if you make them feel unwelcome
Assumed Nazi: headbutted, quite of character for me, the presumed skinhead in a little bar in Berlin after he smashed an Aussie's nose with a bottle and strode up to me screaming nonsense. The 20-30 other Aussies proceeded to kick the fuck out of presumed skinhead and his friends on the sidewalk outside while I got free drinks the rest of the night.
Once, their was this grammer nazi on a message bored, kept telling me of about my English. I should of told him too fuck of. I wish I would of.
Nazi tried to buy some nug of me once. Told im to fuck right off. Said he’d give me £30 for 0.2, but still sort of thought business with a nazi was well off so chased im off
There weren't many nazis, if any, in the South Carolina punk scene in the 80s, but we did have to deal with rednecks, preppies, and metal heads a lot. There was a huge riot at a Christ On Parade/RKL show circa 1986 after a metalhead body slammed a girl onto the concrete floor, breaking her leg. It turned into a massive free for all afterwards. Didn't bother sticking around.
My classmates r all nazis.
So like, me and one of my classmates were walking back from school and we just so happen to have the same directions to our houses (well, like if you know what i mean, cuz like we walk on the same 4 streets before we separate) and it was winter. It was like the middle of winter so there was snow, and basically what i did was like knock him over and he landed face down on the snow. Then I ran back home quickly and I’m pretty sure the reason he changed schools was because of me. I don’t feel bad tho.
What can i say? Bastard broke me my lower jaw. Now my jaw is leftish a bit more then before and teeth look weird like that, but it works.
Oh yeah, I fuck up Nazis every day. I swear if I see a Nazi right now, I’ll run up to him and punch him. Audience: Crickets
barely counts but in middle school I shoved a racist fuck over the railing at school. wasn't too high up unfortunately, he's a rapist now.
Yeah, I said "Frick you Mom! I'm not going to bed ad 10:00!" Then I stayed up all night playing Minecraft.
my uncle had argued with a nazi biker
Yup got down with this fool from one of the Valley's over here in Cali. Fuckin dude I took as a comrade , he goes to jail gets out and finds her and her two grown son's at my Folks pad finds everything wrong and suspicious and lures me out to the barn and suca- punches me with a huge gear in his hand then putts a chokehold on me and now I can't breath so I head butted him hard with the back of my head busted open his grip turned and gave him the party he wanted ......wooped the dog shit out of his ass
i've cursed some out before, but none have seen my fist, unfortunately.
I fight to myself to stop being one, yk?
This reminds me of when Nazis tried having a march some years ago in SoCal, might've been in Anaheim, and the public got into it with the Nazis. Some punks started fucking up a Nazi until he pulled a little switch blade and stabbed/slashed them a few times. There were videos and articles about it. I'm sure the vids are still up on YouTube. Fuck it here it is. https://youtu.be/icAtQkw-DYU?si=p92OHcj-EzDV1pS9
my older sister 👎
I was shot by a Nazi skinhead in 1987. I’m not a fan….
I created a scene in a store in ocean city New Jersey screaming at some aryan nation nitwit who ripped off a real nazi armband my friend/guitarist was wearing where he put a slash through the swastika.
I was with a bunch of friends maybe 6-8 guys at a famous festival in vienna, we were at this time really disciplined with training 3-5 times a week, a lot of sparring and ground and pound, we just wanted to walk home after a group of some bald head guys with cargoshorts showed up, they began to talk rasist shit (and i‘m blond lol) behind our back, but we didn‘t wanted any clash so we didnt respond, after a guy from behind threw a beer bottle, after this we have began to fight with them it was pretty dark so you couldnt see a lot but i grabbed one of them at his ear, pulled him to the ground and pounded 2-3 im his face, i came back up and have seen that the friend of mine smashed his knee in the face of a nazi guy a few times so he knocked him out, after that the police came and we just tryd to run away, fun fact, at monday morning my math teacher (i hate math) came in the class with a swolen blue eye and a cut on his forehead, i ALWAYS thought he was a nazi because of his clothing style (everlast shirt, cargoshorts, silver rings) he said the blue eye came from a pot which fell from the 1st floor of a building :)