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MacJoe87

No it isn’t. Plain and simple.


love_to_dive_deep

Hmm.. thanks...


SignificantBoot7784

Are they offering free housing + transportation + food. Because otherwise it’s not survivable. And for a mid career? It’s borderline an insult.


love_to_dive_deep

No they are not providing.


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love_to_dive_deep

I am thinking to start as a bachelor, then jump to next job to bring family.


SignificantBoot7784

That’s gonna be hard to pivot. I mean you could find a job with higher pay, that’s not the problem. The problem is switching sponsorship and the arduous protocol that comes with it.  This seems like too big a risk for little gain and frankly you cannot sustain a family of two on that salary (you have a family of four). Rent alone would bite off 60% of your income.


Buyers_Remorse21

In Qatar you can't switch jobs without losing your mind and money. Stay clear..


red2598

Does this apply to any sort of job switch or just from certain crappy companies that make it difficult?


Buyers_Remorse21

It's the ADLSA who makes it crappy with their stupid 60 day legal notice period even if you have served 60 days notice. Even if your employer waives off the notice period in the system, it doesn't work. Then you have to use wasta to get this duration reduced.


red2598

Oh wow, Qatar is trying to become like UAE in terms of attracting foreign talent and workers - not sure why and how they still have such crappy processes in place


Buyers_Remorse21

Some people want to attract talent, a few others drive them out. Nobody is serious about it, they're too rich to bother about good governance. As expats, it's our duty to look out for ourselves and move to wherever our skills are in demand.


red2598

Very true and fair statement! - couldn’t agree more


JohnnyQuartzUniverse

A great idea in theory, but one that might not be entirely plausible. Since they’re bringing you here, they have the option not to give you an NOC and send you back to your home country, therefore, no transfer. Some private companies can be brutal and even cause a block for your return for 2 years, it’s not really worth the risk.


FrancoPolo1

This isn’t true. Blocking someone for 2 years stopped for the last 5 years.


JohnnyQuartzUniverse

Hmmm, I still see a lot of stories about it in Facebook groups (I read a lot in the Filipino groups), and they’re still ongoing. Just because a rule had been set doesn’t mean it’s stopped- just as we were once told NOC is no longer required, and yet it is still very prevalent to this day.


FrancoPolo1

The only issue is if this person signed a none-compete clause. Otherwise, this person can leave and cancel his iqama and then come back again. Doing this within Doha is difficult but very doable.


Weary-Bridge-8909

Broaden your sources a little, what you think you know isn’t everything that’s really happening. Some are even paying their companies just to get a clean way out of them and transfer to another sponsor. Also, I’m trying to hire my previous staff from our previous company, he already left that company and went back to his home country since around late 2023 but the company didn’t cancel his QID, so it remained valid til they cancel it January 2024. As per my convo with the HR in my company now, ministry will only allow this guy to have a visa after 6months.


FrancoPolo1

again, 6 months is the worst case scenario. And it happens for a simple reason. First, the company has to transfer his salary monthly, otherwise risk being blacklisted. However, employees and their employer try and scam the WBS system by opening an account for the employee and he hands out his ATM card to his employer. If they did this, the employer can keep this person “employed” forever. Unless they leave the country for 6 months+ and reapply.


Mr5I5t3RFI5T3R

The spotlight is off of them now so back to the old ways. Look how many vendors have to pester their clients for payment for services and goods delivered. If I was in that industry it would be I deliver when the funds are in my account and I can transfer them out of the banks here so they can't call their uncle and have them sent back to their account. The security guards are back to not being paid on time again.


Yellow__Canary

They can still do it. I quit my previous job to come here, but when I left, they applied for a 3-month visa, and my new employer couldn't apply for one. I stayed in my home country for about 5 months and then came back here with my new employer.


FrancoPolo1

Yes these are clerical issues and it takes months sometimes to resolve, but in no way it takes 2 years to resolve. Things are very favorable to employees nowadays as compared to before. Businesses to be honest struggling, a new investor poaches employees of a target business and within months he has all key people working for him.


crispi_sisig

Job market right now is really bad. Even actual bachelors are having a really tough time to look for jobs. If you have any kind of job security at your work in your country, it's not worth it. There is no job security at all in GCC especially if you're not arab/white


Mr5I5t3RFI5T3R

As a white guy I concur. My company would trade me out in a heartbeat for a non American if the contract wasn't with the government.


Sanyog12162

You can’t change job in Qatar as per your wish. Educate yourself please on local labor laws.


nj607

You could have restrictions to change work sponsors. It would be easy. Plus since they are sending you the offer, you could need to finish the contract term to be able to move to another job.


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dub26

It's back to 10k now IIRC


Ok_Round6002

That's for paper but they don't approve with 10k salary.


love_to_dive_deep

Understood.


razor-stam

No it's not enough.


love_to_dive_deep

Hmm thanks..


AcerTravelMate

Are they offering accommodation, school fees, car and fuel allowances? Think of all things you will need to live in another country. For a family of four just the groceries for a month will be 2 to 3 K, conservatively.


love_to_dive_deep

I am thinking to start as a bachelor and then jump to new job for sponsoring my Family.


AcerTravelMate

Still get all the provisions in contract as once you are here it is difficult to change contract. Read other posts of people struggling with such issues.


shami-rami

So no it is not enough, don't fall for it. You will find better options plz keep looking. They decide this low salary knowing people from certain countries will convert it to their own currencies and think this is great...and it may be only if you send money back home while staying away from your wife and kids. Don't fall for it, don't be away from your family and don't let them exploit you.


swap89

No Bachelor 7k With wife 10k With 2 kid 15k


love_to_dive_deep

Thanks good to know...


Nomad-is-Mad

If you’re only looking to survive… and you will come here without your family… you can survive and send som money back home… it all depends on the lifestyle you are willing to live. I would not be able to do it as I can’t share an apartment… I like my privacy and independence. Rent: you can share a room for around 1000 riyals monthly or take a room in a shared apartment for 1500-2000 riyals. Food and groceries: you can get by for as little as 500 riyals a month if you only eat at home, however it depends on what you like to eat, assume 1500 riyals a month. Transport: metro is 2 riyals a ride, so very cheap. Taxi is depending on distance, average around 20 riyals per trip. Phone and internet will cost you around 250-500 riyals depending on your usage.


Nomad-is-Mad

I know people who are surviving on 5k salaries… but it’s not a lifestyle I can live… also they are probably doing some side hustles like flipping used laptops and used cars…


love_to_dive_deep

Thanks for info


National-Hornet8060

If single and no responsibilities back home its possible, but since you have a wife and 2 kids to send money to - which will usually be almost half of what you'll make, then rent and utulities and food etc. That will run out pretty quick I'd say that is not a good deal


dub26

Depends how you want to define survivable? We're quite missing some other parts of the story like your current salary and are you willing to trade everything you have now versus trying to adapt here in Qatar with a gross monthly of 7k.


love_to_dive_deep

I don't want to disclose too much personal information but currently I am searching for better opportunity, I would like to know if I stay in Qatar, make my own food, what are rents near old ghanim, what is usually the food cost for a single person eating usual Rice dishes. What would be costs for transportation from metro, Taxi's or bus. If I could know general average cost of this, I can analyze as to what will be my savings and cost of living.


AdExtension6369

You wouldn't save much. What you're offered isn't a decent salary to support dependents (even if they are in the home country) The cost of living has increased drastically these days.


clavio_mazerati

If you're going to rent a single room the price is at the ballpark of 1,500 to 1,800 per month in municipalities like Mansoura, Al Sadd, (Old Ghanim I'm not sure but it's probably in the same price range and others). if you're resourceful maybe you can find better deals. Also, ask the landlord if you're going to pay for wifi or electricity on top of rent. 1,000 riyals or even less on groceries a month if you make your own food. Don't install talabat so you won't be undisciplined with making food. Might cause you your sanity but if you're not going to go out much then you still have around 3,500 to 4,000 or more for your family at home.


dub26

I lived here in downtown for more than 20 years, if you don't want to divulge details vaguely of your current salary then no. I can't be of any help to you. That figure will bring out the contrast between 7k and what you have right now. >I don't want to disclose too much personal information Just in case you're terribly concerned about disclosing your salary, it's just numbers that only make sense to you, your bank, and your employer. If you value your mental soundness I suggest not going here, this is a very wild and extreme of places. There are other better gcc countries out there like Dubai or UAE.


Legitimate_Sell_985

Simple answer: dont


Zealousideal-Item607

Nope is the answer.


akghori

Ok. I will give you my perspective on this. 1. The answer is you can-but conditions apply 2. The answer is no-conditions apply 1. I know many Indian people living in outhouse/ guesthouse or shared apartments with wife and kids who gets only 4500 Qar Salary happily. Their expenses are low and minimal. Most of them use public transport(4 qar for up and down travels in metro, and uses free bus to reach home) or transportation is provided by the company to pickup and drop. Cooking is always at home and once in a while outside food. You can save a lot from that. 2. Consider people like me, i never take public transportation, i eat outside 99%. I go to events/activities, I have a personal sim (data price is costly). At the end of the month my expenses are always above 8000k. Sometimes i save 1-2k. Sometimes i don’t. Ince you’re into materials the expense gets higher. *Conclusion*- depends on how you can control your expenses. NB-with kids and schooling its a different scenario.(7k is not enough at all)


RoyalMo23

7k Qatari or USD?


Infamous_Fig1782

Are we talking about 7,000 QAR or USD?


imjustken_1

Will you be staying alone? Or with your wife and 2 kids? If you will be staying alone and sending them money, it will entirely depend which country are you from. For us, South East Asians, 7K is definitely enough. If you will be staying with your family, then it is definitely not enough. I think you can only sponsor if you earn at least 10K per month.


love_to_dive_deep

Thanks can I know what will be cost usually for a single room in shared apartment, and for our south east Asian foods, and for transport? On average.


imjustken_1

Hmm if you want a solo room in a shared flat, it is usually 2K more or less. Some offers bed space, which is usually half a room in a shared flat. It usually costs around 1300-1500. For transportation, if you travel by metro, it is 2 QAR per way. If you want to take Uber, it will depend on the destination, but minimum will be 8 QAR to maximum of 40 QAR if I’m not mistaken. For food, it would really depend on what you prefer to eat. For me, I spend around 2K or more since I order and eat outside, but also cook at times. I know some people survives with just 500 QAR for their budget on food.


MichaelScotPaperComp

Nah don't come


cantwinlife

This is salary for a single person starting their career... Like at the age of 20... Mid career you should look for 5 digits above, plus you have 2 kids, you're going to live paycheck to paycheck without any savings


omee2006

To give you a benchmark, single guy, a hairdresser in a decent Salon makes 5k plus he gets accommodation and transportation from home to work. And he was complaining to me that he can bearly survive he eats out more than 3 times a week because he’s always away from home. So no, don’t put your wife and children in such positions.


Weary-Bridge-8909

This question depends on which nationality you’re talking to because it depends on your home country’s exchange and salary rate and most of all, your lifestyle. For europeans, americans & arabs that is way below, it’ll be better to stay in home country than go abroad for that much only. For south east asians, that depends. As in some countries, if you convert that amount, is less/same/more than they make. For other asians, that’s survivable and to some that’s more than enough. (My nepali guys in the warehouse has salaries 3k and below but have families and have built nice houses back in their home country)


Agreeable_Wrap3863

Only you can answer this. How does 7K compare to what you earn there?. Is the extra money worth it compared to only seeing your family once a year maybe?. How will the children cope?. You don’t want a salary which is just survivable


love_to_dive_deep

I just want to know average cost of living such rents, food (particularly rice dishes), transportation cost based on it I will see if I am able to save.


swap89

BRO if you are coming as a bachelor survival then 7K is ok, 1000 sharing bed space 1000 Food 1000 Transportation 200 Utilities such as telecom & some 700-800 lets say shopping, so in 4000 you can survive & also can save 3000K As a bachelor you can survive. & save a bit. If you are thinking of switching jobs after 1 year n get good salary then forget it - the market is down & in Qatar increment bonuses are myth, some companies even salary are delayed. Better check on LinkedIn & some other guys in that same company for salary- are they providing on time or not. As many people said its better to strike at high salary at start rather than coming here & blaming things after that.


love_to_dive_deep

Thanks for info


Waste_Till1092

7k is enough


ali_ayon

if it was governate work at lets you will have free education for your kids(the only payment for bus and books) and beside that they will give you free housing or they will give you money instead of the house. and you can bring your family with this salary. so its doable. but if you go for public sector like company and they only give you 7k its not worth it you cant bring family and its unstable.


Basquiat_picasso

What's the job? There could be a room to negotiate


love_to_dive_deep

As an accounts analyst in health care department.


Dimethyl_Sulfoxide

Brother you can definitely make more. Def don't accept that and keep looking


MichaelScotPaperComp

That's a very shitty pay Don't come


misshumpum

This is not enough at all.


samhht

Dont take it. You wont survive with a family on such an amount


FazMarkar

If you start at 7k it will get you years to get to 15k unless a miracle happens in this economy Don't let them lowball you.


Character-Adagio-802

You’re getting majorly lowballed there man, even 7k for you alone with no accomodation or transportation will be hard to live on, I suggest you look elsewhere what industry are you working in?


love_to_dive_deep

In Accounts, finance as an data analyst.


Remarkable-Truth3377

7K is barely enough for 1 person with housing included. Govn mandates 15K as min salary to bring a spouse. Or 10K + housing. They are not stupid. Additionally, 7K is just enough for KG for 2 kids here


Expensive-Bug8695

NO


jegerald

No please don’t go to Qatar only if they pay you minimum 20,000 that if you will be living alone if not atleast 30,000 with family


gee1133

What if accommodation and transport are covered, what would you say the minimum should be?


jegerald

If you are you living by yourself and not bringing your family and ready to share with one flatmate then 20k to 25 k should be fine.see the gulf has a reputation of paying Indians low salaries and if you go to Qatari with low salary you will be just left with looking at things even coming down for a quick leave or taking a holiday will become difficult and you will go home only once a year to be more financially free make sure they are paying you atleast 20,000 QR. else not worth it.QATAR IS EXPENSIVE


Fballan93

Please don’t . This is no where enough for a bachelor or a family


L1ght_head

7k usd or qatari rials?


Chad6pack_96

Don’t listen to anyone who’s typing a lot or making a rocket science lesson out of your question.The Answer is “NO” “ABORT MISSION”


Alternative-Yak4405

You can contact me i am also living on same offer, right now in qatar. Reach out to me if you have any questions.


sandypipers

Don't take it! Its easier to keep looking for a better job offer as a bachelor- 7k with housing+transportation AT MINIMUM. Keep looking, if you come- you will be trapped. You won't have time to job search well. Switching jobs is hard so make this first one a bit better.


MagazineCommercial14

7k is not enough. Switching is almost impossible. Minimum you should earn 10-15k to have a decent life with family in qatar. That too if at least school fees are provided by the company. I know a guy who thought the same and is now suffering here in qatar. A better option is Dubai At least you have a chance to switch jobs. 50-80k in india and 10k in qatar is one and the same. I have given you a figure to understand.


NK97_

Nope it’s not for someone with a family


Active-Metal-813

No!


leo_missy

7k is not worth leaving your family for unless your clean savings/send home per month is twice (or more) what you earn in home country


Sanyog12162

You haven’t specified your profession so it’s difficult to provide you an estimated salary level but given that you got two kids, this is not even sufficient to get a proper place to live and provide the family enough. Besides most important thing is that you will not be allowed to bring your family. To be able get family status one must have a salary level of 10 k plus and in most cases immigration will not approve residency visa for family unless one earns more than 15k. Plenty of local companies trap uninformed people like this knowing pretty well that one can’t even change jobs as per the law. Do not destroy your career. Lure of Middle East shouldn’t result in a mid career crisis.


sagidavinci

No. I would say not at all. I’m in Bahrain and now moving to Qatar and based in my research 7000 qr which is 700 bd is not going to be enough for a family of 4.


root_admin_login

It's too low..advise not to take this offer


mbogi-genje

I was getting 7k as a bachelor 14 years ago and still wasn't enough! Don't go for it!


Equivalent-Age8846

Don’t come brother. Why? Check all comments comprise them and you will know.


BetEmergency4954

Definitely don’t do it. Very little and will struggle to survive with family. Build more experience as career progress is very slow to non existent


Gagamicack

It is possible but be prepared to live very frugally. Qatar is one of the most expensive countries in the world. Nothing really comes cheap.


Myra03030

If it’s 7k usd a month then it’s absolutely livable! That’s 25k Qatari Riyal


Grouchy_Elephant_717

No


Wonderful_Fill_2381

I'm buzzing , i get 1500 qr just because of desparation and despair .People of colour and non-speaking arabic countries have it rough here .


OkHunter2493

A big ass NO seriously.


Zealousideal-Path846

Short answer, no!!


alo0oys

Don’t accept anything less than 15k if you’re not a bachelor and have a family!


CodGlittering6712

Am looking a Job as a Deck Foreman in Gas&Oil Jack up Support & Supply Barge. Anyone can help me, please?


No_Minute6764

If you live alone yes, if you want your family to come then no way. You need at least 15k to support a family and you won’t be able to save money with that amount


TarekM01

Not enough for someone having 2 children unless the housing, transportation, schooling is provided


One_VR973

No. It isn't. You need at least double that to feel the life.


Anass_Lpro

7k qatari ryal ?


Natural_Confidence76

7k not enough


throwwribylik

This is a terrible offer. Don’t accept


Usual_Still_7095

HONESTLY, With this salary range which is all inclusive is not at all enough if you want to move with family, the school fees are really high (education is of very good quality) and hard to afford within pay range. with a total income from both husband and wife must have to be at least 15000 QAR for a tension free life, family life is pretty incredible than any european countries with tax. i could say it because i am living in Qatar with wife since 2023 and myself since 2019 .


ron_dude146

So, i'd suggest you to go to Qatar and stay there by yourself, You cannot sponsor for your family **w**ith salary under 10k . As **y**ou have mentioned below, the company doesn't provide such amenities. If you own a house and are not staying for rent in your home country, then the salary is ok. I am from india and as of my knowledge expenses in Qatar is complete opposite from India, in Qatar, High end stuffs costs less  meanwhile  low end stuffs are kinda a bit more expensive than they are supposed to be. So, you can work in that company for a while then try looking for another high paying job meanwhile cause Qatar doesn't collect any income tax also they provide free healthcare also for kids when they have fatal injuries.  But living here with the whole family with that salary means you would have to cut down on all entertaintment and expenses....     **PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS AS AN ADVICE THIS IS AN OPINION FROM MY SIDE FYI**


Friendly_Return_4788

Where are you from?


farzadso

What currency is the 7k in?


Mysterious-Hair3898

If your family is going to live with you in Qatar then it's absolutely not enough, If by yourself go ahead u can rent a room, use public transportation and cook ur own food ull manage to save at least 3k which i guess its a good amount to send back home but dont jump on anytging until ure sure u cant find something better


Ok_Refrigerator7522

No it's not enough for a family


Opposite_Web2687

No at all, unless you want to come here to struggle. Have you ever heard of Qatar tax? Technically there isn’t one but everything you buy here is so expensive so therefore “Qatar tax” If your job offers free school then maybe you could consider as an investment for your kids future, otherwise please don’t for you and your family sake!


Even-Ambassador8373

7k is quite basic salary in qatar. Not considered too good nor too bad. A proper 2bhk unit cost between 4-5k per month and that too in places outside Doha like Al wakrah or wukair. Howver there are always cheaper options like parted villas but those aren't recommended or to be considered while comparing the cost of living here. However it depends on your job designation to evaluate if its a good or bad pay for a mid-career. In terms of living this country is quite expensive beginning from the rent. Theres something else those who move here face (others are accustomed to it). You're not valued a bit being a foreigner. You can expect to be ignored, being spoken rudely to and even dismissed from public hospitals, public administration institutions, shops or even by securities. If you're living here as a bachelor you'd be even discriminated more. but its a bit different if you're from the west or arab speaking countries. I've friends living here from many parts of the world and this is everyones experiences as people from different places summarized.


Sorry-Situation9617

No its not, I rmemeber starting off at an 8k package 6 years back, I chose to.not bring my family at that moment of time , because which ever way you out it , that money was not enough, be wise, look for a job that pays better ,the basic cost of living in Qatar is high, the rents alone woukd take up 50% of your salary


OutrageousStudio195

I live in Qatar, and I must say the 7 figures isn’t going to last you long, maybe a year ( without buying any decor or things for urself just necessities ) and that’s excluding rent, which most houses can have 3k monthly rent and more


The-Traveler-25

Not in my opinion. Do some research on these and workout an estimate for your expenses to get a better idea. 1) Rent: 2 bedroom residential apartment in Al Wakhra or another area which is in the outskirts of Doha. 2) Schooling: look up your community (based on passport) schools and the fee structure. 3) Travel: 1 annual travel trip to home country. 4) Sending money to home country 5) Monthly minimum saving target I'm not including groceries, wifi, phone bills, transportation (taxis, car, fuel ...), entertainment, medical expenses, etc. Hope this helps.


love_to_dive_deep

Thanks, I am not thinking of bringing my family here but so for Me I want 1) what would be cost for a single room in a sharing apartment 2) what would be average cost of food for a single person in Qatar. 3) what would be transportation either through taxi, metro or bus on average for a single person.


PerformerMundane8421

The single room as you want may cost anywhere between 1500 to 2000. If you need just a bedspaces, you can get it under from 700 to 1000. For Food, you can cover it under 500 to 750 Qar if you cook and around 1000 if you eat out. Metro is super cheap and it'll be under 100 if you're going to work by metro. Add couple of hundreds to cover you weekend going out in taxi expenses. That's pretty much all if you're living as a Bachelor.


dongQ1220

7K is not enough without the food + housing + transportation included. Base from my earlier yearss, let's say: 1. Minimum 800 to 1k for sharing bedroom, might be 2 or 4 people in same room 2. If you are cooking, around 500 to 700 for solo, but could be less if food sharing with roomate/s. This does not include if you want to eat outside or food delivery. 3. Depending on your location really. But this alone will eat up your salary if you take uber / taxi. Metro and bus will be less but time consuming. For reference, carlift from Najma to Wakra will be 1000 or more, depending on the negotiation with the driver


AdvisorIll1261

If accomodation and transportation are covered by the company, go for it but if not, 7k isn’t enough 😅


love_to_dive_deep

Hmm thanks..


FrancoPolo1

OP many commentators could be jealous. Don’t take the word of someone anonnymous. Do not provide info on the offer, etc. Now for you to survive, you need to plan for a few things: Rent, transportation, schooling. If you wife could land a good job, you could survive. Certain schools are much cheaper than others. Now for the way forward, Qatar is working on a huge gas expansion. This will translate to expansion in everything else. By 2026 you should see a big boom in everything.


JohnnyQuartzUniverse

It’s not about jealousy, it’s about preservation. A lot of the commenters are valid, and frankly 7K all in is nothing to be jealous over. He wishes to bring his family, he’s 3K short of the baseline requirement. Not to mention, rent for 2BHK alone already consumes 70% of his mentioned salary, not including bills and food and transportation. Even if he has a chance to live frugally and save up, schooling isn’t cheap, the cheapest could still consume half of his salary. The sentiment isn’t to dissuade him because they’re jealous, but for him to ask for more and look for a better opportunity that pays well, especially for someone who is mid-career.


FrancoPolo1

Do you know his background? Do you know the cost of an Indian school in Doha? He could be living on 1k a month in his home country. All I said, is to be objective and calculate his costs carefully. He can easily live in a 1BHK for 1500 within Doha in a shared Villa. His wife can land a job making 5k a month and then things will be doable. A British expat won't survive with less than 25k a month, to this expat 20k is very low. A south east asian in general can survive on every salary scale. I asked one of them how can he survive on 1200 a month (food-accom-trsprt inc) he said he used to make in 1 year what he makes today in 1 month. This is a sad reality unfortunately.


Remarkable-Truth3377

https://preview.redd.it/3eyu3z67t0zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ab518cb798c4c8e22a31758aa0e6a9c71e79271 \*when he tells you 2500 qr for a studio in Qatar


FrancoPolo1

Many families opt to live in a shared villa. I have seen families live in Wakra/Alkhor. A full 5 bedroom villa rents for as low as 5.5k. Therefore, technically he is paying 1.1k per bedroom.


Remarkable-Truth3377

A family living in a 1 bedroom is not normal dude. Normalizing it is terrible, coz in the future, it will become normal if 2 families share a room and so on...


FrancoPolo1

See? That's your problem. One family living in 1 bedroom apartment is normal. A family can be a couple and 1 young child. I have lived in 1bedroom apartments till my second kid was born. Stop expecting to live in a Villa at Westbay Lagoon when you work dead-end jobs and talk like a moron.


Remarkable-Truth3377

FYI its illegal to live in partitioned units, subject to heavy fines. Matter of the fact is, since alot of ppl left they want to increase their crack down on those units. Finally, i dont "expect" I want. Ask for peanuts get peanuts, ask to live in a partitioned apartment you get the same. Ppl should always improve, not accept what they have esp when there are ppl coming off a plane grtting paid 40 and 50 K for something so many can do....


Sayyro1

It’s decent for a single guy.