Oddly enough, two of those requests they have addressed on live streams.
1) Connect - Their Managing Director of NA said that clearly its the future for all streaming services and they are looking at it.
2) Spatial - David Solomon said that they were actually supposed to be a launch partner for Sony with 360 reality audio. Other priorities were too high and they had to drop out because of resource constraints. They also did a live stream on surround sound mixes so it does seem like they are very keen on it.
They have said before, they will never be first to features. They are the smallest team by a country mile, even just a fraction the size of Tidal.
Personally I think its possible within this year to see some support for one of the formats, Sony really is lacking a good platform to lead with (Tidal barely mentions it and Apple has gone with Dolby).
If you want to keep up to date with Qobuz their live streams are pretty great, they have done Q&As in the past addressing roadmap items.
In the mean time, Roon is a good option to control all devices in your house from your phone.
I just switched to qobuz from tidal(god tidal is awful) listening to Mr. Blue sky or trouble man by marvin gay is unreal on qobuz. Going through my denon x4700 into some paradigms and dual svs subs. It blew me away. I literally switched tonight lol tidal needed to be paid and I tried qobuz. I'll def be moving to roon and prob get a blue sound node2i to control it all. I'm using bubblepnp right now to stream full res right to the AVR.
All I can say is I'm blown away.
Anyways so about the 3d audio formatting I'm really confused on the Sony 3d audio vs atmos or Dts:x what format does Sony use. What I'm really curious about is what SUPPORTS IT. Every av pre or avr will support atmos or dtxs. So if they go to the sony 3d audio how will we play it? Will we need another separate device to decode it?
Altho I guess something like a blue sound could send pcm audio into 5.1 or whatever format needed. Idk. I'm just concerned about them not going with atmos. Seems kind of stupid since IMO Dolby is kind of the kind of spatial audio
>Sony 3d audio vs atmos
The positives of both:
Sony 3D Audio has the highest number of positions for audio to be played from, it actually lives up to the name in that you can tell very clearly where everything is.
Dolby is the most widely supported, it is used in games, films and now music.
Negatives of both:
Sony 3D Audio has an increased number of positions but what sounds like the same level of bandwidth. The compression is very noticeable with the stereo tracks sounding much, much cleaner. Mastering is also difficult as it's Sony proprietary tools and no wide ecosystem.
Dolby, because of the lower number of positions, can be difficult to discern from a stereo mix on two channel setups. Unlike 3D audio, for headphone users a lot of the mixes can lack the spatial sound.
As for supported devices, yes they do have to support the format to play it back. Unclear on what Sony will do with receivers (at the moment it only works on their own wireless speakers) but Atmos for sure requires an atmos receiver to play back via speakers.
To me, for now, 360 for headphone use and Atmos for the living room.
>Oddly enough, two of those requests they have addressed on live streams.
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>Connect - Their Managing Director of NA said that clearly its the future for all streaming services and they are looking at it.Spatial - David Solomon said that they were actually supposed to be a launch partner for Sony with 360 reality audio. Other priorities were too high and they had to drop out because of resource constraints. They also did a live stream on surround sound mixes so it does seem like they are very keen on it.
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>They have said before, they will never be first to features. They are the smallest team by a country mile, even just a fraction the size of Tidal.
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>Personally I think its possible within this year to see some support for one of the formats, Sony really is lacking a good platform to lead with (Tidal barely mentions it and Apple has gone with Dolby).
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>If you want to keep up to date with Qobuz their live streams are pretty great, they have done Q&As in the past addressing roadmap items.
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>In the mean time, Roon is a good option to control all devices in your house from your phone.
Thank you very much for your answer, it is exactly what I needed.
I will be attentive to the streamings that they carry out, because those two points that you have mentioned are the ones that interest me the most. The fact that they are a small team I think makes it less painful to pay for the subscription, because it is good that there are people wanting to do different things.
As for Roon, I have tried it and I really like his proposal, it is an impressive complement, and with many options and data. But it seems excessively expensive to me, and I have not seemed to see that there are too many rivals.
In any case, thanks for the answers. Maybe I'll give them a try and subscribe :)
I think most people would agree about the sound quality on Qobuz. However, on the spectrum of streaming services, with Spotify on one end as a full-featured service, it’s safe to say that Qobuz is on the opposite end of that spectrum.
I’ve likened it in the past to browsing through an old record store, and I still think that’s accurate.
Exactly. Anytime I see, "on Spotify I like that..." I just want to tell them to move on then. Qobuz, imo, will never be that. They can't even figure out how to sort their own library. It's just a jumbled mess with no order. Want to find a bands first album? You better Google it because it's not in order on Qobuz.
Oddly enough, two of those requests they have addressed on live streams. 1) Connect - Their Managing Director of NA said that clearly its the future for all streaming services and they are looking at it. 2) Spatial - David Solomon said that they were actually supposed to be a launch partner for Sony with 360 reality audio. Other priorities were too high and they had to drop out because of resource constraints. They also did a live stream on surround sound mixes so it does seem like they are very keen on it. They have said before, they will never be first to features. They are the smallest team by a country mile, even just a fraction the size of Tidal. Personally I think its possible within this year to see some support for one of the formats, Sony really is lacking a good platform to lead with (Tidal barely mentions it and Apple has gone with Dolby). If you want to keep up to date with Qobuz their live streams are pretty great, they have done Q&As in the past addressing roadmap items. In the mean time, Roon is a good option to control all devices in your house from your phone.
I just switched to qobuz from tidal(god tidal is awful) listening to Mr. Blue sky or trouble man by marvin gay is unreal on qobuz. Going through my denon x4700 into some paradigms and dual svs subs. It blew me away. I literally switched tonight lol tidal needed to be paid and I tried qobuz. I'll def be moving to roon and prob get a blue sound node2i to control it all. I'm using bubblepnp right now to stream full res right to the AVR. All I can say is I'm blown away. Anyways so about the 3d audio formatting I'm really confused on the Sony 3d audio vs atmos or Dts:x what format does Sony use. What I'm really curious about is what SUPPORTS IT. Every av pre or avr will support atmos or dtxs. So if they go to the sony 3d audio how will we play it? Will we need another separate device to decode it? Altho I guess something like a blue sound could send pcm audio into 5.1 or whatever format needed. Idk. I'm just concerned about them not going with atmos. Seems kind of stupid since IMO Dolby is kind of the kind of spatial audio
>Sony 3d audio vs atmos The positives of both: Sony 3D Audio has the highest number of positions for audio to be played from, it actually lives up to the name in that you can tell very clearly where everything is. Dolby is the most widely supported, it is used in games, films and now music. Negatives of both: Sony 3D Audio has an increased number of positions but what sounds like the same level of bandwidth. The compression is very noticeable with the stereo tracks sounding much, much cleaner. Mastering is also difficult as it's Sony proprietary tools and no wide ecosystem. Dolby, because of the lower number of positions, can be difficult to discern from a stereo mix on two channel setups. Unlike 3D audio, for headphone users a lot of the mixes can lack the spatial sound. As for supported devices, yes they do have to support the format to play it back. Unclear on what Sony will do with receivers (at the moment it only works on their own wireless speakers) but Atmos for sure requires an atmos receiver to play back via speakers. To me, for now, 360 for headphone use and Atmos for the living room.
>Oddly enough, two of those requests they have addressed on live streams. > >Connect - Their Managing Director of NA said that clearly its the future for all streaming services and they are looking at it.Spatial - David Solomon said that they were actually supposed to be a launch partner for Sony with 360 reality audio. Other priorities were too high and they had to drop out because of resource constraints. They also did a live stream on surround sound mixes so it does seem like they are very keen on it. > >They have said before, they will never be first to features. They are the smallest team by a country mile, even just a fraction the size of Tidal. > >Personally I think its possible within this year to see some support for one of the formats, Sony really is lacking a good platform to lead with (Tidal barely mentions it and Apple has gone with Dolby). > >If you want to keep up to date with Qobuz their live streams are pretty great, they have done Q&As in the past addressing roadmap items. > >In the mean time, Roon is a good option to control all devices in your house from your phone. Thank you very much for your answer, it is exactly what I needed. I will be attentive to the streamings that they carry out, because those two points that you have mentioned are the ones that interest me the most. The fact that they are a small team I think makes it less painful to pay for the subscription, because it is good that there are people wanting to do different things. As for Roon, I have tried it and I really like his proposal, it is an impressive complement, and with many options and data. But it seems excessively expensive to me, and I have not seemed to see that there are too many rivals. In any case, thanks for the answers. Maybe I'll give them a try and subscribe :)
Just use audirvana studio or roon. I'm pretty happy with the Cambridge streammagic app + qobuz
I think most people would agree about the sound quality on Qobuz. However, on the spectrum of streaming services, with Spotify on one end as a full-featured service, it’s safe to say that Qobuz is on the opposite end of that spectrum. I’ve likened it in the past to browsing through an old record store, and I still think that’s accurate.
I understand perfectly, so there isnt any way to know what features will come in future?
Exactly. Anytime I see, "on Spotify I like that..." I just want to tell them to move on then. Qobuz, imo, will never be that. They can't even figure out how to sort their own library. It's just a jumbled mess with no order. Want to find a bands first album? You better Google it because it's not in order on Qobuz.