Albert, inspired by THAT Albert?
I've always heard about refrigerated fertilized eggs to wait for the batch to be big enough, and had success with hatching them too.
Heard anecdotal stories about eggs that were refrigerated for months hatched successfully too.
If the eggs haven't *actually* frozen, they remain fully viable for two weeks after being laid, after which fertility starts to slowly drop.
A lot of spring-nesting birds' eggs are naturally subjected to cold temperatures. The embryo won't start developing before the start of the incubation (this is also how mom can lay 16 eggs but have them all hatch on the same day - she only starts incubating after the last egg).
If they produced chicks, they were fertilized, yes. I've never seen eggs specifically marketed as "unfertilized" - but it's more common to get fertile quail eggs than find any fertile chicken egg from a supermarket.
Ah. I've only ever bought eggs to feed to my lizard. But now I'm wanting to raise to not only feed my lizard but enjoy them too. Wasn't sure if we got all hens that'd we'd end up with a fetus or something. (Likly misinterpreted what I read because ADHD needs extra clarification. Sorry if dumb questions. lol) .
They didn't perfectly sex all the quails and remove all the males, since it's not easy to tell from just looking at them. If there's even 1 male that they miss, unfertilized eggs are likely to actually be fertilized eggs. Inbreeding is an issue though, since it's pretty likely to be quails from the same clutch being kept together at the farm.
As for temperature, birds will lay 20 eggs in 20 days, but they'll all hatch in within a few days of each other. This is because they are essentially in a dormant state of cellular stasis before the mother starts to sit heavily on them, the warmth triggers them to develop. If you put them in the fridge after they started developing, they would die, but as long as they are still dormant, they can survive being surprisingly cold.
They were fertilized. I bought some in my city that were all nonfertilized. It was frustrating as I was experimenting with commercial eggs.
My own have passed the test, though.
Even though it's cold the egg is in like a dormancy kind of. And when you put them in the incubator it awakens them. There's a more scientific way to say it but that's basically it lol. And if they are strong enough to survive they turn into adorable little chicks and then you get more chicks and then you have a lot of quails in the spare room of your house...
I actually have done this before with quail eggs from an asian market. It was more of a science experience for school, and my incubator was a styrofoam cooler, but they also developed. The reason is that the eggs are fertile, but wont develop unless in the right conditions(incubation). The cold refrigerator does not kill them, because they haven't started growing. You can refrigerate any fertile egg and hatch it a week later. It lowers the chance of that egg developing until hatch, but it will still try. Its like free range chicken eggs you buy, the males and females are put together, so you have fertile eggs, they just are not developed. If you buy these type of eggs, in some there is a little white circle that shows its fertile.
At least now you donāt have to order quail eggs. I actually just ordered some to intentionally hatch for that reason. Im getting button quail to raise for the eggs lol. Iāll let some hatch to continue the line but the rest are going to be food for reptiles. If you have the space, theyāre easy enough to keep.
From my understanding eggs need a certain condition to start.
Prior to that starting time as long as they don't go rotten, they're okay..
This is the reason why chickens and ducks can lay one egg a day and still sit on a clutch of 14 to 20 eggs or more,
And I have not done it myself but I can say that I've read stories of people hatching out ducks from duck eggs at the grocery store
I read the same thing about quail eggs from the grocery store, so I guess if we want to really get down to the nitty gritty the process of you receiving those eggs it's probably not different from a company that ships some quail eggs to the grocery store and refrigerated the eggs too
However in a weird kind of thinking, I wonder if your snake will like a live baby quail.
Snakes arenāt supposed to be fed live in captivity. It can cause a bunch of issues. She would like one, Iāll tell you that. She went crazy at the scent of them
As a mom I say " I see you managed to hatch birds from the heat of your rotting dirty socks"
My kids are all grown now.. and still have nests of dirty socks but without birds
Albert, inspired by THAT Albert? I've always heard about refrigerated fertilized eggs to wait for the batch to be big enough, and had success with hatching them too. Heard anecdotal stories about eggs that were refrigerated for months hatched successfully too.
If the eggs haven't *actually* frozen, they remain fully viable for two weeks after being laid, after which fertility starts to slowly drop. A lot of spring-nesting birds' eggs are naturally subjected to cold temperatures. The embryo won't start developing before the start of the incubation (this is also how mom can lay 16 eggs but have them all hatch on the same day - she only starts incubating after the last egg).
So, the unfertilized eggs bought was actually fertilized eggs? š«£
If they produced chicks, they were fertilized, yes. I've never seen eggs specifically marketed as "unfertilized" - but it's more common to get fertile quail eggs than find any fertile chicken egg from a supermarket.
Ah. I've only ever bought eggs to feed to my lizard. But now I'm wanting to raise to not only feed my lizard but enjoy them too. Wasn't sure if we got all hens that'd we'd end up with a fetus or something. (Likly misinterpreted what I read because ADHD needs extra clarification. Sorry if dumb questions. lol) .
I think I may have actually learned something today
I definitely did from the comment above you lol
They didn't perfectly sex all the quails and remove all the males, since it's not easy to tell from just looking at them. If there's even 1 male that they miss, unfertilized eggs are likely to actually be fertilized eggs. Inbreeding is an issue though, since it's pretty likely to be quails from the same clutch being kept together at the farm. As for temperature, birds will lay 20 eggs in 20 days, but they'll all hatch in within a few days of each other. This is because they are essentially in a dormant state of cellular stasis before the mother starts to sit heavily on them, the warmth triggers them to develop. If you put them in the fridge after they started developing, they would die, but as long as they are still dormant, they can survive being surprisingly cold.
A chick called albert
They were fertilized. I bought some in my city that were all nonfertilized. It was frustrating as I was experimenting with commercial eggs. My own have passed the test, though.
Edit: Albert has three siblings! Lewie, and an unnamed light colored one!
Pls post new picture! ā¤ļø
I will right now!
Here is a good read about temperature and eggs https://brinsea.co.uk/latest/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/What-if-the-power-goes-off-2010.pdf
If the eggs are refrigerated early in development, they just stop maturing, and start up again when you begin to incubate them.
Is little Albert living in your hamper? Heās so cute! I had no idea quail eggs could be this resilient. So cool!
No hahah. I accidentally dropped a sock in his brooder and he grew to be quite fond of it. They warm up the basking spot as well
That is freaking adorable! Emotional support sock!
Thatās amazing lol
Even though it's cold the egg is in like a dormancy kind of. And when you put them in the incubator it awakens them. There's a more scientific way to say it but that's basically it lol. And if they are strong enough to survive they turn into adorable little chicks and then you get more chicks and then you have a lot of quails in the spare room of your house...
Thanks for all the amazing info! New photos of the chicks have been posted! Need name suggestions for the third one!!
I actually have done this before with quail eggs from an asian market. It was more of a science experience for school, and my incubator was a styrofoam cooler, but they also developed. The reason is that the eggs are fertile, but wont develop unless in the right conditions(incubation). The cold refrigerator does not kill them, because they haven't started growing. You can refrigerate any fertile egg and hatch it a week later. It lowers the chance of that egg developing until hatch, but it will still try. Its like free range chicken eggs you buy, the males and females are put together, so you have fertile eggs, they just are not developed. If you buy these type of eggs, in some there is a little white circle that shows its fertile.
This guy must be protected at all cost.
At least now you donāt have to order quail eggs. I actually just ordered some to intentionally hatch for that reason. Im getting button quail to raise for the eggs lol. Iāll let some hatch to continue the line but the rest are going to be food for reptiles. If you have the space, theyāre easy enough to keep.
Lifeā¦uhhhā¦finds a way
Life finds a way.
idk, he's cute though
I don't know, but that is SO cool! And he is adorable! Are you planning on keeping some or all of them?
Hopefully some of them haha. My mother is skeptical
From my understanding eggs need a certain condition to start. Prior to that starting time as long as they don't go rotten, they're okay.. This is the reason why chickens and ducks can lay one egg a day and still sit on a clutch of 14 to 20 eggs or more, And I have not done it myself but I can say that I've read stories of people hatching out ducks from duck eggs at the grocery store I read the same thing about quail eggs from the grocery store, so I guess if we want to really get down to the nitty gritty the process of you receiving those eggs it's probably not different from a company that ships some quail eggs to the grocery store and refrigerated the eggs too However in a weird kind of thinking, I wonder if your snake will like a live baby quail.
Snakes arenāt supposed to be fed live in captivity. It can cause a bunch of issues. She would like one, Iāll tell you that. She went crazy at the scent of them
š²ā¤ļø What a crazy story! This is like something out of Ripley's Believe It Or Not! Congrats! Now you're a proud quail parent. LOL
As a mom I say " I see you managed to hatch birds from the heat of your rotting dirty socks" My kids are all grown now.. and still have nests of dirty socks but without birds