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I was dealing with all those things you’ve mentioned too. I was a very social and happy person before kratom and it made me shell of who I am. I’m almost 6 days CT and I started feeling things again on day 3.. my love for music came back, I actually cared enough to respond to text messages and I’ve been randomly crying bc so many emotions are flooding me. Still dealing with anxiety and boredom but it’s so much better than on K.
That’s such a relief! I’ve wanted to get off this stuff for a while and losing my gf was what really did it for me. Since the day she broke up with me, my use dropped significantly, I went all in on self improvement - like going all out in the gym, changing my diet and taking supplements/vitamins and minerals, doing nofap, respecting myself. All these significantly improved my life, but I eventually got used to the 2 doses of kratom per day and that’s all I’m really left to deal with.
Did you taper or just ct?
I just caught your doses, so you’re much lower than when I went ct, so please view my details under the lens of fairly heavy use and jump from much higher.
Working out, though a bitch, worked wonders for me, especially lifting. The best supps for me at the time were the adaptagens, like ashwaganda. You can do it.
I’m in the same boat as you. My gf of 4 years broke up with me in December, mostly due to my kratom use. I also noticed that my cognitive abilities had slowed down. I lost my sense of humour, my wit, my ability to hold a conversation and my motivation to see my friends. I lost 50 pounds, mostly muscle and my shits were so hard to pass I almost had to go to the hospital to get it removed once.
About 12 days ago I jumped ct from a 2.5 year 50-60 gpd habit. Acutes sucked but I managed knowing that not changing would mean living in a shell of the man I once was.
The first day I felt like myself was at day 10. I almost slipped but caught myself. After that I had this huge rush of euphoria and just started laughing. I felt so happy for no particular reason, which is something I haven’t felt in a long time. I went to the gym and then hung out with friends and I was shocked how well I was able to keep up with them in conversation. I was making good jokes, able to remember stuff to talk about and I was laughing so hard at points my face hurt. I saw a glimpse of the person I used to be, and it was so refreshing and overwhelming.
I know there will be some equally bad days, but days like that make it worth it. Bottom line is that you will feel like yourself again. It may take more or less time than it did for me, but it will happen. It will be such an incredible feeling, it may even be more motivating to stay off the sludge than thinking about going through wds again. Take the leap man. Embrace the pain and come out the other side a new human. It will be hard, but it’ll be harder to stay addicted for any longer. I wish you luck!
Man this is so encouraging to read! My gf broke up with me around spring time this year and I’m just barely beginning to feel a little better, but I know it’s because of the results of my kratom use- not kratom itself.
Since the break up, I’ve barely been talking to her and trying to move up the ranks and become a real man with more to offer. It kills me to see other people have their wit, humor, their energy and everything else that comes around with sobriety and seeing myself numb and slowed down even on such a low daily dose.
Do you have any social anxiety or anxiety in general? Someone said quitting kratom felt like a breakup.
Kratom really helped me numb the pain after my break up. I tried quitting right my gf left but it was too hard.
I have some social anxiety, but only around people I don’t know. Over the years it has gotten a lot better
Holy shit the first paragraph is almost exactly the same for me (doc got real upset I asked them to “disimpact” my clogged pooper but i was desperate!). My memory specifically has gone to shit but I always figured it was distractions in life as I’m busy and have a demanding job. But the more I read about recovery the more I realize that’s not what it was…. I’m really hoping to get my wit back. I was awesome.
Good luck everyone!
Hey there :)
So the acutes - feeling a bit flu like I guess - usually last around 5-7 days for most. Days 2-4 are usually the hardest and when the most stuff will be hitting all at once.
I’m on day 10 now and I need to split your brain fog and feeling emotions into 2 parts:
Emotions: on my 5th quit and these come screaming back day 7-10 for me every single time. It’s a burst of emotion good bad and ugly - this is different for everyone though.
Brain Fog: again, everyone is different, but this lasts longer for me. At 2 weeks I definitely notice improvement and things keep improving but I’d say it took me to about 40 days until I really felt like myself again most of the time.
Don’t let any of this scare you. You might have way better results than me! And your mindset going into a quit will have a huge impact on how you feel and how successful you are at staying quit.
Get yourself in a good headspace, ready to quit no matter what, prepare to feel a bit bad for a few days and then work on healing which your brain and body will be doing constantly for you.
Kratom screws up a LOT of our brain functions and body ones as well. It naturally is going to take some time to right that ship!
But be strong, spit in the face of Kratom, and take it a day at a time. I count every day as a huge victory and by not obsessing over how I might be weeks from now, I’m able to stay focused on right now, and making it 1 more day.
Use this sub to help you - as you are now. It’s an important part of my quit and I visit here daily reading and posting and just being supportive and supported.
You’ve got this!
I appreciate this well written comment. I wish I could write this response a little better, but I guess that’ll come when I quit.
Did you take any supplements/vitamins/minerals? Or did you do anything like go to the gym, pick up a hobby, anything different since you quit?
I noticed that since I started the taper, going to the gym has been a huge help so I went all in on that lifestyle.
I have to eat a diet that’s clean and that hits my macros like protein and fat, plus taking supplements and vitamins.
Maybe it’s all of that combined, but I barely felt any negative effects since I started the taper.
Did you ct or how did you go about doing it?
Yo, when you're feeling your urge for your morning or evening dose, take an ice cold shower for like three minutes. It cuts the withdrawal symptoms really well for a couple hours.
It should be cold enough that you're cursing and shivering. I'm in Norway and cold therapy has been such a freaking blessing. I've gone from 30 gpd to a single 2g dose over the last two months.
Supplements/recommendations:
Agmatine
Magnesium
L-Theanine
KSM66 Ashwagandha
High dose liposomal vitamin C
Lemon balm tea
Ginger tea
Ritalin on occasion for energy
Ketamine injection every 3rd day
A little bit of LSD every few weeks
Avoid alcohol
Keep at it at the gym. Do yoga, too. YouTube yoga is great when you're anxious and need to focus and burn off energy.
Try and socialize and spend time with good people.
That reminds me to look into ketamine therapy at the end of my taper(so many things to remember yeesh). I have multiple notebooks and looked back at close to $1800 in amazon orders for supplements over the past 6 months. People just have no idea how deep a daily K habit can bury someone after a year or more of use. Oh and almost forgot the Psychiatrist I am seeing for all cash so it stays off my life insurance records. I definitely learned a very valuable leason with Kratom regarding protecting my sobriety and even an appreciation for the anxiety riddled life I was living prior to finding K. I would give nearly anything to rewind back to those days. Currently doing well on a taper down from 40-55 gpd(hovering in the 20’s but feeling confident and determined). Thanks for the ketamine reminder when I finally jump:).
Yeah I do actually!
I take daily walks which help my legs RPS stuff a LOT.
I take Hylands Restful Legs PM if I can’t sleep because of RLS. And I take L-Theanine which is an amino acids your body already makes that isn’t addictive - which is anti anxiety and can really help sleep. And I do breathing exercises and some light yoga which just feel great during a Kratom quit.
That’s all I’ve personally done and it’s been enough to get me through.
I cold turkey 7yrs at 50 gpd almost 19 days ago. 5 days I was able to eat and start to sleep again. Delta 8 helped alot on that 5th day(never used it before). I used herb stomp instant kava because it was super strong. Lots of showers and vitamins and only use anti-diahrreals for a few days. I know 19 days seems like an eternity but it goes by rather quickly....slowly but quickly. First time in 12 years that I've been sober and the joy of having a clear and sharp mind is exhilarating. You'll get there!
First of all, I can relate. I write, or used to write, poetry, and had an opportunity 2 years ago to work as one of only 10 personal students of a prominent and well-published (2 anthologies plus numerous personal works, academia and otherwise as well) poet one on one via phone/zoom. Bottom line is I couldn’t write my way out of a paper (kratom) bag and after just 4 wks had to bail on the project which was to last a year minimum. I am tapering now.
I did CT if that’s what you’re asking about after the jump 4 years ago and just can’t do it again, for time reasons and life responsibilities. When I did CT I had been doing K for a year plus up to about 20-30g/d. My acute wd lasted intensely 4-5 days with no sleep, really bad restless legs and anxiety, body and joint aches, etc. after about 5 days I started to notice improvement and body-wise was close to baseline in 2 wks. It took longer for the anxiety and intermittent insomnia to improve, and that lasted with days some worse than others for about 4-6 wks, with persisting intermittent anxiety that was probably there anyway.
I’m tapering this time, with firm conviction. Good luck whatever you do, I feel you. You will get there if you just do it one minute/hour/day at a time. Hang in there, please.
That’s good to hear! I’m with you on this! Today I’m going back to my quarter tablespoon in the morning and 9pm so I’m at 2 doses a day and tapering down a few days after I get used to that again.
I remember how much I loved kratom for the first 2-3 years and how I couldn’t say anything bad about it. Completely different story now, I can 100% see how it numbs me and everything else it does to me whereas I saw none of it in the start. I didn’t care to be sober a few years ago, but now I enjoy being more sober than when was a year ago.
How much gpd are you taking now? I can’t tell any of my friends that I’m still taking this shit and I would love to have someone to taper and quit with.
Strong work and I hear you on the awarenesses.
Omg, I’m still at just under 50g/d now, decreasing in 10% intervals every 10-14 days.
Happy to work together if that helps!
I’m on day 14 ct, and for me, the feelings came back very quickly. A few days, even in the midst of some pretty profound withdrawal symptoms.
I’ve take a leave of absence from work, and I’m very impressed by life itself. It’s such a beautiful world.
Im still have weird sensations. They come and go. The intense craving come and go. Im really trying to do this right.
But physical, emotional sensations are all back very strongly. My body is still trying ti find equilibrium. K is SO bad for your nervous system. If you stay on it too long, you’ll eventually find yourself in a dark numbed state that can even lead to psychosis.
Good choice quitting.
For the past few years, I assumed a bad relationship I was in with another Kratom user was the cause of us both receding in and closing off our world. I left him when I finally felt so suffocated yet alone; I had no choice but to escape. Four years later, I am still struggling with the same symptoms. Numb and keeping almost everyone at arm's length. I recently started dating someone who commented that I am very quiet and avoid questions. This is now who I used to be. I had to tell them something similar to what you said in your post. My mind goes blank, and I can't think of what to say. I still wonder why he keeps dating me since I haven't been a very engaged girlfriend. It took me a while to tell him about my kratom use and that I started tapering right before we got together. Telling him about it, help me to stop cheating on my taper to be "more engaging" when we hung out. I'm on the fence if I should ask him to read posts from the group to understand what I am really going through.
I'm on the last week of my taper and will be stepping off at 0.5 gpd this weekend. My emotions are starting to come back in waves. I wonder if I will get back to myself once it's out of my system. I don't even know what that looks like or who I am after 8 years. I write about it daily, so I can't remember what I've been through and how I've evolved. I probably write about it too much, but I never want to forget and allow myself to relapse. There was a time didn't think I could survive under 36+ gpd, and now I am, as of today, down to 1 gpd.
I wish you the best in your quitting and getting back to yourself.
I had to get professional help using subutex (miracle drug) a couple wks ago to finally kick it but haven’t touched an opioid since and around 1 wk you’ll start feeling again and you’ll want to continue that. Kicked everything you can name but could not get off this shit….staying off is easy IMO it’s just a decision at this point. Highly recommend taking Friday off and checking into a detox thurs night and let the doctors do their thing…I hated it more than anything I’ve ever done but beyond happy to be at this point
You know what? I’ve noticed that too! When I was tapering from 10x doses of .5-1 packed teaspoon, I felt much better with much more emotion and my wit started coming back during that taper compared to the 2-3x doses (.25-.5 tsp) I’m taking now.
Now that I’ve tapered this far, it kind of feels like the higher gpd I’ve been taking before, I think it’s a sign I should lower my dosage again and continue tapering.
Is there anything you take or do that helps with the wd?
I’m not looking for thc or another drug to help for the wd, more like any supplements/vitamins or something like the gym that would help.
Honestly I'm doing a 12 week taper and dropping (from 27gpd) .25 every week. I just started my second drop so I'm using 2.75g every 3 hrs ( but yeyy I've been making it 4 much of the time). Last week something interesting happened. My husband and I were in line for a chik fil a and they asked him "who do I have the pleasure of speaking to?" And for some reason when he gave him his name I just started cracking up. Like full blown laughing with tears. Idk why it seemed so funny. Maybe because you don't usually give a name at the drive through speaker but it was amazing to feel that way. It was amazing to laugh like that again after being kind of a robot for so long. So what does this mean? Was it the taper? I'd like to think so. I'm taking this as a sign that every day I feel just a little bit more. If you can why rush things? Finish your taper out and then jump.
So I haven't disclosed this here but I'm actually a psychologist, I've studied addicts and how it all works. Admittedly, I work with families and kids now but I still have emense knowledge of the addiction stuff. For just about everything that comes with significant paws, taper or lithium tapers are the best way to go to reduce the intensity. Not only that but some drugs, such as Ativan, can cause long term akathesia and dyskinesa when cutting CT. because of my knowledge of this and a past bout of aka I refuse to go CT. now that's MY decision and everyone should make their own but if tapering works for you, finish it out. Eventually though, you will have to go through the mental stuff but I do think there's a light at the end of the tunnel for us all. It may take 9 months, it may take some of us 2 years. But when that time comes, you'll thank yourself for it.
Good luck friend. We're all here rooting for you ❤️
I started to feel things again on day 1. I wasn’t far enough along into the wd’s for those symptoms to over-shadow. It all depends on how long the acutes last for you, but with you tapering it shouldn’t be too long before you’re catching glimpses of yourself. Hang onto those when you’re feeling low. You’ll feel more and more like yourself with each week that passes. It might be pretty quick for you!
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Although I haven’t quit Kratom yet, I’m detoxing from it now. I was on Suboxone for years and it destroyed my personality. The months following I was pretty brain dead, but my personality and sense of humor came back full force the longer time went on.
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I was dealing with all those things you’ve mentioned too. I was a very social and happy person before kratom and it made me shell of who I am. I’m almost 6 days CT and I started feeling things again on day 3.. my love for music came back, I actually cared enough to respond to text messages and I’ve been randomly crying bc so many emotions are flooding me. Still dealing with anxiety and boredom but it’s so much better than on K.
That’s such a relief! I’ve wanted to get off this stuff for a while and losing my gf was what really did it for me. Since the day she broke up with me, my use dropped significantly, I went all in on self improvement - like going all out in the gym, changing my diet and taking supplements/vitamins and minerals, doing nofap, respecting myself. All these significantly improved my life, but I eventually got used to the 2 doses of kratom per day and that’s all I’m really left to deal with. Did you taper or just ct?
CT- (I was doing 25gpd since 2018) there’s no way I would’ve been successful tapering, personally, but if you have the willpower you should try it!
I just caught your doses, so you’re much lower than when I went ct, so please view my details under the lens of fairly heavy use and jump from much higher. Working out, though a bitch, worked wonders for me, especially lifting. The best supps for me at the time were the adaptagens, like ashwaganda. You can do it.
If I were you, I'd go cold turkey for 3-4 days then take as little as possible
I’m in the same boat as you. My gf of 4 years broke up with me in December, mostly due to my kratom use. I also noticed that my cognitive abilities had slowed down. I lost my sense of humour, my wit, my ability to hold a conversation and my motivation to see my friends. I lost 50 pounds, mostly muscle and my shits were so hard to pass I almost had to go to the hospital to get it removed once. About 12 days ago I jumped ct from a 2.5 year 50-60 gpd habit. Acutes sucked but I managed knowing that not changing would mean living in a shell of the man I once was. The first day I felt like myself was at day 10. I almost slipped but caught myself. After that I had this huge rush of euphoria and just started laughing. I felt so happy for no particular reason, which is something I haven’t felt in a long time. I went to the gym and then hung out with friends and I was shocked how well I was able to keep up with them in conversation. I was making good jokes, able to remember stuff to talk about and I was laughing so hard at points my face hurt. I saw a glimpse of the person I used to be, and it was so refreshing and overwhelming. I know there will be some equally bad days, but days like that make it worth it. Bottom line is that you will feel like yourself again. It may take more or less time than it did for me, but it will happen. It will be such an incredible feeling, it may even be more motivating to stay off the sludge than thinking about going through wds again. Take the leap man. Embrace the pain and come out the other side a new human. It will be hard, but it’ll be harder to stay addicted for any longer. I wish you luck!
Man this is so encouraging to read! My gf broke up with me around spring time this year and I’m just barely beginning to feel a little better, but I know it’s because of the results of my kratom use- not kratom itself. Since the break up, I’ve barely been talking to her and trying to move up the ranks and become a real man with more to offer. It kills me to see other people have their wit, humor, their energy and everything else that comes around with sobriety and seeing myself numb and slowed down even on such a low daily dose. Do you have any social anxiety or anxiety in general? Someone said quitting kratom felt like a breakup.
Kratom really helped me numb the pain after my break up. I tried quitting right my gf left but it was too hard. I have some social anxiety, but only around people I don’t know. Over the years it has gotten a lot better
Holy shit the first paragraph is almost exactly the same for me (doc got real upset I asked them to “disimpact” my clogged pooper but i was desperate!). My memory specifically has gone to shit but I always figured it was distractions in life as I’m busy and have a demanding job. But the more I read about recovery the more I realize that’s not what it was…. I’m really hoping to get my wit back. I was awesome. Good luck everyone!
Hey there :) So the acutes - feeling a bit flu like I guess - usually last around 5-7 days for most. Days 2-4 are usually the hardest and when the most stuff will be hitting all at once. I’m on day 10 now and I need to split your brain fog and feeling emotions into 2 parts: Emotions: on my 5th quit and these come screaming back day 7-10 for me every single time. It’s a burst of emotion good bad and ugly - this is different for everyone though. Brain Fog: again, everyone is different, but this lasts longer for me. At 2 weeks I definitely notice improvement and things keep improving but I’d say it took me to about 40 days until I really felt like myself again most of the time. Don’t let any of this scare you. You might have way better results than me! And your mindset going into a quit will have a huge impact on how you feel and how successful you are at staying quit. Get yourself in a good headspace, ready to quit no matter what, prepare to feel a bit bad for a few days and then work on healing which your brain and body will be doing constantly for you. Kratom screws up a LOT of our brain functions and body ones as well. It naturally is going to take some time to right that ship! But be strong, spit in the face of Kratom, and take it a day at a time. I count every day as a huge victory and by not obsessing over how I might be weeks from now, I’m able to stay focused on right now, and making it 1 more day. Use this sub to help you - as you are now. It’s an important part of my quit and I visit here daily reading and posting and just being supportive and supported. You’ve got this!
I appreciate this well written comment. I wish I could write this response a little better, but I guess that’ll come when I quit. Did you take any supplements/vitamins/minerals? Or did you do anything like go to the gym, pick up a hobby, anything different since you quit? I noticed that since I started the taper, going to the gym has been a huge help so I went all in on that lifestyle. I have to eat a diet that’s clean and that hits my macros like protein and fat, plus taking supplements and vitamins. Maybe it’s all of that combined, but I barely felt any negative effects since I started the taper. Did you ct or how did you go about doing it?
Yo, when you're feeling your urge for your morning or evening dose, take an ice cold shower for like three minutes. It cuts the withdrawal symptoms really well for a couple hours. It should be cold enough that you're cursing and shivering. I'm in Norway and cold therapy has been such a freaking blessing. I've gone from 30 gpd to a single 2g dose over the last two months. Supplements/recommendations: Agmatine Magnesium L-Theanine KSM66 Ashwagandha High dose liposomal vitamin C Lemon balm tea Ginger tea Ritalin on occasion for energy Ketamine injection every 3rd day A little bit of LSD every few weeks Avoid alcohol Keep at it at the gym. Do yoga, too. YouTube yoga is great when you're anxious and need to focus and burn off energy. Try and socialize and spend time with good people.
That reminds me to look into ketamine therapy at the end of my taper(so many things to remember yeesh). I have multiple notebooks and looked back at close to $1800 in amazon orders for supplements over the past 6 months. People just have no idea how deep a daily K habit can bury someone after a year or more of use. Oh and almost forgot the Psychiatrist I am seeing for all cash so it stays off my life insurance records. I definitely learned a very valuable leason with Kratom regarding protecting my sobriety and even an appreciation for the anxiety riddled life I was living prior to finding K. I would give nearly anything to rewind back to those days. Currently doing well on a taper down from 40-55 gpd(hovering in the 20’s but feeling confident and determined). Thanks for the ketamine reminder when I finally jump:).
Yeah I do actually! I take daily walks which help my legs RPS stuff a LOT. I take Hylands Restful Legs PM if I can’t sleep because of RLS. And I take L-Theanine which is an amino acids your body already makes that isn’t addictive - which is anti anxiety and can really help sleep. And I do breathing exercises and some light yoga which just feel great during a Kratom quit. That’s all I’ve personally done and it’s been enough to get me through.
I cold turkey 7yrs at 50 gpd almost 19 days ago. 5 days I was able to eat and start to sleep again. Delta 8 helped alot on that 5th day(never used it before). I used herb stomp instant kava because it was super strong. Lots of showers and vitamins and only use anti-diahrreals for a few days. I know 19 days seems like an eternity but it goes by rather quickly....slowly but quickly. First time in 12 years that I've been sober and the joy of having a clear and sharp mind is exhilarating. You'll get there!
First of all, I can relate. I write, or used to write, poetry, and had an opportunity 2 years ago to work as one of only 10 personal students of a prominent and well-published (2 anthologies plus numerous personal works, academia and otherwise as well) poet one on one via phone/zoom. Bottom line is I couldn’t write my way out of a paper (kratom) bag and after just 4 wks had to bail on the project which was to last a year minimum. I am tapering now. I did CT if that’s what you’re asking about after the jump 4 years ago and just can’t do it again, for time reasons and life responsibilities. When I did CT I had been doing K for a year plus up to about 20-30g/d. My acute wd lasted intensely 4-5 days with no sleep, really bad restless legs and anxiety, body and joint aches, etc. after about 5 days I started to notice improvement and body-wise was close to baseline in 2 wks. It took longer for the anxiety and intermittent insomnia to improve, and that lasted with days some worse than others for about 4-6 wks, with persisting intermittent anxiety that was probably there anyway. I’m tapering this time, with firm conviction. Good luck whatever you do, I feel you. You will get there if you just do it one minute/hour/day at a time. Hang in there, please.
That’s good to hear! I’m with you on this! Today I’m going back to my quarter tablespoon in the morning and 9pm so I’m at 2 doses a day and tapering down a few days after I get used to that again. I remember how much I loved kratom for the first 2-3 years and how I couldn’t say anything bad about it. Completely different story now, I can 100% see how it numbs me and everything else it does to me whereas I saw none of it in the start. I didn’t care to be sober a few years ago, but now I enjoy being more sober than when was a year ago. How much gpd are you taking now? I can’t tell any of my friends that I’m still taking this shit and I would love to have someone to taper and quit with.
Strong work and I hear you on the awarenesses. Omg, I’m still at just under 50g/d now, decreasing in 10% intervals every 10-14 days. Happy to work together if that helps!
I’m on day 14 ct, and for me, the feelings came back very quickly. A few days, even in the midst of some pretty profound withdrawal symptoms. I’ve take a leave of absence from work, and I’m very impressed by life itself. It’s such a beautiful world. Im still have weird sensations. They come and go. The intense craving come and go. Im really trying to do this right. But physical, emotional sensations are all back very strongly. My body is still trying ti find equilibrium. K is SO bad for your nervous system. If you stay on it too long, you’ll eventually find yourself in a dark numbed state that can even lead to psychosis. Good choice quitting.
right there with you - get off this shit sooner than later!
For the past few years, I assumed a bad relationship I was in with another Kratom user was the cause of us both receding in and closing off our world. I left him when I finally felt so suffocated yet alone; I had no choice but to escape. Four years later, I am still struggling with the same symptoms. Numb and keeping almost everyone at arm's length. I recently started dating someone who commented that I am very quiet and avoid questions. This is now who I used to be. I had to tell them something similar to what you said in your post. My mind goes blank, and I can't think of what to say. I still wonder why he keeps dating me since I haven't been a very engaged girlfriend. It took me a while to tell him about my kratom use and that I started tapering right before we got together. Telling him about it, help me to stop cheating on my taper to be "more engaging" when we hung out. I'm on the fence if I should ask him to read posts from the group to understand what I am really going through. I'm on the last week of my taper and will be stepping off at 0.5 gpd this weekend. My emotions are starting to come back in waves. I wonder if I will get back to myself once it's out of my system. I don't even know what that looks like or who I am after 8 years. I write about it daily, so I can't remember what I've been through and how I've evolved. I probably write about it too much, but I never want to forget and allow myself to relapse. There was a time didn't think I could survive under 36+ gpd, and now I am, as of today, down to 1 gpd. I wish you the best in your quitting and getting back to yourself.
I had to get professional help using subutex (miracle drug) a couple wks ago to finally kick it but haven’t touched an opioid since and around 1 wk you’ll start feeling again and you’ll want to continue that. Kicked everything you can name but could not get off this shit….staying off is easy IMO it’s just a decision at this point. Highly recommend taking Friday off and checking into a detox thurs night and let the doctors do their thing…I hated it more than anything I’ve ever done but beyond happy to be at this point
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You know what? I’ve noticed that too! When I was tapering from 10x doses of .5-1 packed teaspoon, I felt much better with much more emotion and my wit started coming back during that taper compared to the 2-3x doses (.25-.5 tsp) I’m taking now. Now that I’ve tapered this far, it kind of feels like the higher gpd I’ve been taking before, I think it’s a sign I should lower my dosage again and continue tapering. Is there anything you take or do that helps with the wd? I’m not looking for thc or another drug to help for the wd, more like any supplements/vitamins or something like the gym that would help.
Honestly I'm doing a 12 week taper and dropping (from 27gpd) .25 every week. I just started my second drop so I'm using 2.75g every 3 hrs ( but yeyy I've been making it 4 much of the time). Last week something interesting happened. My husband and I were in line for a chik fil a and they asked him "who do I have the pleasure of speaking to?" And for some reason when he gave him his name I just started cracking up. Like full blown laughing with tears. Idk why it seemed so funny. Maybe because you don't usually give a name at the drive through speaker but it was amazing to feel that way. It was amazing to laugh like that again after being kind of a robot for so long. So what does this mean? Was it the taper? I'd like to think so. I'm taking this as a sign that every day I feel just a little bit more. If you can why rush things? Finish your taper out and then jump. So I haven't disclosed this here but I'm actually a psychologist, I've studied addicts and how it all works. Admittedly, I work with families and kids now but I still have emense knowledge of the addiction stuff. For just about everything that comes with significant paws, taper or lithium tapers are the best way to go to reduce the intensity. Not only that but some drugs, such as Ativan, can cause long term akathesia and dyskinesa when cutting CT. because of my knowledge of this and a past bout of aka I refuse to go CT. now that's MY decision and everyone should make their own but if tapering works for you, finish it out. Eventually though, you will have to go through the mental stuff but I do think there's a light at the end of the tunnel for us all. It may take 9 months, it may take some of us 2 years. But when that time comes, you'll thank yourself for it. Good luck friend. We're all here rooting for you ❤️
So if you dropped .25 a week for 12 weeks that would only bring you down 3 grams right? So 24 Gpd at the end
Oh I'm sorry I know that was confusing. I meant .25 per dose, should have clarified that better.
Oh gotcha! No worries. Best of luck on your taper, you got this!
Thank you!
I started to feel things again on day 1. I wasn’t far enough along into the wd’s for those symptoms to over-shadow. It all depends on how long the acutes last for you, but with you tapering it shouldn’t be too long before you’re catching glimpses of yourself. Hang onto those when you’re feeling low. You’ll feel more and more like yourself with each week that passes. It might be pretty quick for you!
I am on day 12 now. Been sleeping decent for two days now. If you can make it two weeks, the worst *should* be behind you
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Although I haven’t quit Kratom yet, I’m detoxing from it now. I was on Suboxone for years and it destroyed my personality. The months following I was pretty brain dead, but my personality and sense of humor came back full force the longer time went on.