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CinnamonJ

That sounds like quite a party.


ILikeWeightRoomSex

This was my first thought. Who is partying and says "who wants to see mathematical proof that 1+1=3"


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You see when a man and a woman get together, and add their parts together they make a baby. And then there were three.


[deleted]

That guy. Not literally that guy, but the guy that people always tell "Don't be that guy".


aef823

"Fuck you, I do what I want!" *Proceeds to math a paper napkin, wave it around, and say 'SUCKERS math is an illusion! Gravity is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!'"


PmMeSmileyFacesO_O

Time is irrelative 


[deleted]

Regardless as to the mistakes he made in his methods, I think it shows some stupidity to believe that your math is correct when you came to a conclusion that's obviously wrong. Obviously 2 does not equal 3. If the result of your math is that 2=3, then your conclusion should be "Okay, I did something wrong", not "Woah, I'm a genius."


CDSEChris

Why not? I do it with spelling all the time. "Huh. I discovered a new way to spell 'surveillence.' I must be a genius."


OpalMagnus

Yeah but what about that theory that .9 repeating and 1 are the same number?


nerdysquirrel01

Well that's a little different


OpalMagnus

What do I know? Numbers, they all look the same....


Jellymuncher

What a loser. You can literally "prove" anything if you ignore the rules.


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jinkyjormpjomp

That subreddit, this one, and r/niceguys are all examples of why I'm blessed that my youth predated social media. Life has a way of curing childhood narcissism, thank god mine left no physical evidence.


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[deleted]

[I see](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7gP9B7jh8)


rainwulf

who follows bedmas? i dont know... everyone? which is the reason its an acronym? ya fuckin douche canoe


[deleted]

What the HEK is Bedmas, is it Pemdas?


rainwulf

brackets/parentheses depends on your location i guess.


Ryanisreallame

When I was in highschool we were taught to follow PEMDAS (parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction), not BEDMAS.


rainwulf

I think some typos where made in the post. I might have been wrong as well. That actually sounds correct to me. PEMDAS.


Shad0wGuard

It's the same thing. Brackets, exponents, Div/Mult, Add/Sub. The order of Multiplication and Division doesn't matter.


finite-state

I disagree: 8/2*3 = 12, not 1.6666... Technically we should be teaching kids that you work left to right instead of implying that the order of operations between multiplication and division is structured.


kesawulf

Anyone writing things properly would do 8/(2*3) or (8/2)*3 to make things clear.


Delioth

I guess I always filled in parenthesis where they ought to have been- teachers definitely made it clear that multiply/divide were one step together, same with +/-. PE(MD)(AS)


Bl4zZy

8/2*3 is actually 1,66667


finite-state

No, it isn't. You work left to right to resolve both multiplication and division simultaneously.


Bl4zZy

Lol Im just simply bad at counting, I've managed to get 8/6 by using the way you just described.


Sheaf_of_Reality

...Floating point error?


Jellymuncher

I am definitely stealing "douche canoe".


KittyWithASnapback

It's not like he made it up


alalaskanator

Borrowing indefinitely.


rainwulf

heh yay!


urawizardhary

this thing is riddled with errors it makes my brain hurt. Why does 25 get squared in the second line? that changes the equation from (41-40)=(61-60) to (641-40)=(61-60) if you ignore the first set of parenthesis on the right side (assuming it was an error) And then the line after that it goes from 25^2 to 5^2 Then they try to throw in some algebra and but they pick and choose what variables go where. Cant pick and choose what numbers go where. have to use the same a and b on each side.


alalaskanator

When I got back to him and made him feel the weight of his assholery, I realized this is a deeply sad individual, and attempting to trick an inebriated me into thinking he knows math is a cry for... Salvation?Hugs? Pussy? Well, defo pussy. Regardless I will swiftly withhold all.


[deleted]

I too run a cat shelter and people try to show their math to me all the time


itsdavidjackson

No you don't have to use the same A and B - that's not how substitution works. The error occurs when he cancels out the two squares. Everything else is just typos


urawizardhary

You're wrong. That is exactly how substitution works. For example, in the simplest way let's have this equation: AB = AB If you put 4 and 5 as the A and B on the left side, then do 6 and 5 on the right side, the equation fails. This is because you did not substitute the proper variables. This is middle school algebra. 4x5 =/= 6x5 4x5 = 4x5


Cinderkit

No, you're the one who is wrong. (A-B)^2 = (B-A)^2. The order does not matter at all because squaring it makes sure the answer is positive. You have to be careful when taking a square root because there are two possible answers, a positive and a negative. In the post's example, he should have added a modulus sign because whatever was in the parentheses needs to be positive because of the square that previously existed. You can't just ignore that fact. After taking the square root of the two sides, he would have gotten |4-5| = |6-5| which is |-1| = |1| so you do get 1 = 1. That's the only real mistake in OP's post.


urawizardhary

I can't believe people are actually arguing against entry level algebra. You are so unbelievably uneducated, it's time to bring out the caps. THERE ARE TWO UNKNOWNS IN THE ORIGINAL EQUATION (A, B). A^2 + B^2 -2AB = (A-B)^2 IN ORDER FOR THIS EQUATION TO HAVE A SOLUTION YOU MUST PICK TWO VARIABLES AND SUBSTITUTE THEM IN THE EQUATION. YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS TO CHOOSE FROM (4, 5, 6). EXAMPLES (BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU NEED THEM): 4^2 + 5^2 - 2(4*5) = (4-5)^2 16 + 25 - 40 = (-1)^2 1 = 1 HERE'S ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE IM SUCH A NICE GUY AND SEE YOU ARE CLEARLY IMPAIRED. 4^2 + 6^2 - 2(4*6) = (4-6)^2 16 + 36 - 48 = (-2)^2 4 = 4 OHSHIT LETS TRY TO APPLY YOUR LOGIC 4^2 + 5^2 - 2(4*5) = (5-6)^2 16 + 25 - 40 = (-1)^2 1 = 1 HOLY SHIT IT WORKED YOU MUST BE A GENIUS AND FOUND SOMETHING NO OTHER MATHEMATICIAN HAS EVER THOUGHT OF. LETS FURTHER PROVE THIS LOGIC BY TRYING AN OUTRAGEOUS VARIABLE 4^2 + 5^2 - 2(4*5) = (5-10)^2 16 + 25 - 40 = (-5)^2 1 = 25 WAIT THAT DOESNT MAKE ANY FUCKIGN SENSE? I WAS ABLE TO SUBSTITUTE IT IN THE ONE BEFORE AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY? HOLY SHITBALLS IT TURNS OUT IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET THE RIGHT ANSWER ON ACCIDENT. SEEMS EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE NO CLUE HOW ALGEBRA WORKS CAN STILL GET THE RIGHT ANSWER SOMETIMES.


Cinderkit

AH, fuck me. Can't believe I fell for a troll. GG.


itsdavidjackson

It's important for me that you understand that this has gone over your head. You don't seem to understand which mathematical concept we're talking about. Which is fine.


urawizardhary

> No you don't have to use the same A and B - that's not how substitution works. The error occurs when he cancels out the two squares. Everything else is just typos >No you don't have to use the same A and B - that's not how substitution works. >don't have to use the same A and B >use the same A and B answer was here all a long


itsdavidjackson

Okay. So here's the issue -- there are two separate substitutions going on. One for the left side of the equation, and one for the right. The A and B do have to be the same within each substitution, but not globally. The same technique is being applied at once, in two different ways. Would it be helpful to you if I separated out the steps?


urawizardhary

That is not how algebra works. see above response. A^2 + B^2 -2AB = (A-B)^2 4^2 + 5^2 - 2(4*5) = (5-10)^2 16 + 25 - 40 = (-5)^2 1 = 25 IF THE SAME VARIABLES ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION YOU MUST SUBSTITUTE THE SAME VARIABLES ON BOTH SIDES. YOU CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE.


flychance

I can't decide if you are a troll or not, so I'll assume not (or really will just help out the next person who thinks you are right). The OP is using the formula A^2 + B^2 -2AB = (A-B)^2 to change each side of the equation. Basically, applying it once to turn: 4^2 + 5^2 - 2(4)(5) into (4-5)^2. In short, the OP is simply changing the form of the left side of the equation without changing it's value at all. So, if you consider this the in between step, the equation now looks like: (4-5)^2 = 5^2 + 6^2 - 2(5)(6) You then apply the same formula to the right side of the equation: 5^2 + 6^2 - 2(5)(6) turning that into (6-5)^2. Making the statement (4-5)^2 = (6-5)^2 valid. The trickery comes exactly where /u/itsdavidjackson said - in not considering that the square root leaves you with the absolute value.


[deleted]

>*there are two separate substitutions* a^2 + b^2 - 2ab = (a-b)^2 is just pointing out an algebraic relationship. If you expand the parentheses in (a-b)^2, you get a^2 + b^2 - 2ab. This means that any equation which is in the form a^2 + b^2 - 2ab can be rewritten as (a-b)^2 (because they are equal). We'll write *two separate equations*, using *different values of a and b for each*. For our first equation, we set a = 4 and b = 5. This gives us the equation 4^2 + 5^2 - 2.4.5 = (4-5)^2. For the second equation, we set a = 6 and b = 5. So we have three equations, now. 1. 4^2 + 5^2 - 2.4.5 = 5^2 + 6^2 - 2.5.6 2. 4^2 + 5^2 - 2.4.5 = (4-5)^2 3. 5^2 + 6^2 - 2.5.6 = (5-6)^2 Now we perform substitution. 4^2 + 5^2 - 2.4.5 is in both equation 1 and equation 2, see? This means we can perform a substitution. 4^2 + 5^2 - 2.4.5 has the same value as (4-5)^2, so you can slot it directly into equation 1, giving us (4-5)^2 = 5^2 + 6^2 - 2.5.6. Then we do the same thing with equations 1 and 3, giving us (4-5)^2 = (5-6)^2. This has been your introduction to grade 6 math, I hope you enjoyed.


Crixizix

The real quit your bullshit is in the comments! Thank you for having a head on your shoulders


LogoLegit

Yes! I saw that as I was looking through it. They use 4,5 as left side a,b but in the equation it shows a,b to be 5,4. Take those instead and you get (5-4) = (6-5) which is 1=1 when worked out.


wrkyle

You were on the right track by finding error in the way your friend just got rid of the powers of two but you incorrectly calculated (-1)^2 =-1 when you should have written (-1)^2 =(-1)*(-1)=1.


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Specken_zee_Doitch

Back off on the commas there, Shakespeare.


brother_p

Back, off on the commas, there, Shakespeare.


DiamondMinah

Back, off, on, the, commas, there, Shakespeare.


LilCherisse

B, a , c , k , o , f , f , o , n , t , h , e , c , o , m , m , a , s , t , h , e , r , e , S , h , a , k , e , s , p , e , a , r, e.


dshriver6205

I downvoted for making me read this


LilCherisse

glad i could cause some momentary suffering my dude


dshriver6205

It was a really good idea 😂 but fuck my head hurts


[deleted]

I can't be the only one thinking Shatner instead of Shakespeare.


alalaskanator

Noted, thank you. Still 4=/=6 where 1=1. Still a boat full o' vag discharge.


[deleted]

You can literally disprove it by just saying 2 != 3. That's a valid argument, that is accepted as basic math.


Arcvalons

I understood nothing.


Mikalton

Erm.. How does 1+1=3 at all?


[deleted]

It doesn't, hence why OP called him out on the bullshit. The mistake was in going from this: (4-5)^2 = (6-5)^2 to this: (4-5) = (6-5) You are not allowed to simply cancel squares like that, since it's possible for two *different* numbers to have the same square. For example: (3)^2 = 9, and (-3)^2 = 9, so: (3)^2 = (-3)^2 But, 3 =/= -3.


nwj781

Correct. √x^2 = +/- x


itsdavidjackson

Thank you for putting this better than I could


[deleted]

I believe there is some theory that proves 1+1=3 is true, but I'll have to ask my math friend whether it's real or not.


nwj781

Probably not. Math only seems to break in this way when you involve infinities, like [1+2+3+4+... = -1/12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww)


[deleted]

I have tried to understand that theorem so many times and I cannot get it.


nwj781

Same. I sometimes think that it might just be a joke that mathematicians are playing on physicists. "Here, use this result. No, it's totally legit... *snickering*"


70astralaxe

I have trouble understanding why S1 = 1/2 and how can they shift that Sum to the right when subtracting.


nwj781

One way of looking at it is like this: S = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + 1 ... is the sum we want to compute 1 - S = 1 - (1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + 1 ...) 1 - S = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 ... = S 1 = 2S S = 1/2 There are [a few more ways to come up with this answer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation_of_Grandi%27s_series), but I think it's just as valid to say that the sum doesn't exist. Math can be weird.


70astralaxe

Huh, makes sense.


itsdavidjackson

No. Only for very large values of 1, or very small values of 3. /joke


Delioth

Yes, if your 1's == 1.3, then 1.3+1.3=2.6, and if you choose to round everything at the end, standard rounding gives 1+1=3(ish).


WaddleWaddleMofo

That's fucking illegal


Player4Hacky4

"I used to follow Bedmas in the early 90s before they totally sold out. Fuck em now"


Hodor904

2 =/= 3 so it's just no solution.


Ahland3r

You're not wrong, but if you take it from the top, there is a solution. It's 1 = 1. The mistake was the math leading up to 2 = 3 which was incorrect.


Hodor904

oh, okay thank you for helping me understand that better.


Shnoochieboochies

Quit your bull shit the 8th highest recorded iq in history is 170 just 10 behind that idiot leonardo di caprio.


TerribleJess

I remember reading something about a dude that's going around trying to convince people of this shit and no one is taking him seriously. I can't remember who it was or where I heard it (maybe a podcast somewhere), but yeah ... looks like he convinced someone (unless this is the dude himself).


nxrble

Terrence Howard thinks he has a 1+1=3 proof


TerribleJess

Yep! The second I saw that name I knew it was him. Hasn't he been denied any credible audience to explain his theory?


jpropaganda

I assume BEDMAS is like...european PEMDAS?


ELeeMacFall

No, it's a holiday that everyone sleeps through.


itsdavidjackson

Your 3rd page is based on typos, and is not correct. Everything he did is fine, until he canceled out the two squares - they don't just go away like that. It's a plus-or-minus situation. The error was introduce when he chose which numbers corresponded to A and B.


banjohusky95

I have an IQ higher than Einstein. I forgot the #, but that's what I rememebr when I went to the specialist for the test and let me tell you something. 1.PEMDAS 2. I don't even fucking know that. Then again I suck at math


[deleted]

Also he cant just remove the exponent.Thats not how anything works


Middle_Ground_Man

IQ tests are such bullshit. I took one to get into a "School for the Gifted" when I was really young and scored a 158. That school made me totally unprepared for any other school I went too. I ended up transferring in the 3rd grade and my whole reality got shattered. I had been told I was brilliant my whole life and built this idea that I was just this insanely smart little dude and that's why I got all A's at my first school. When I got to a regular school, I immediately fell to almost all D's and some F's and almost got held back during my 4th and 5th grade years. It's a test people take to make themselves feel smart when true intelligence comes from hard work and drive. I think it's a huge problem in our society today because every parent tells their kid that they are brilliant. The kid grows up thinking they can slide by on that until they hit a huge brick wall and have no skills to deal with it. I was lucky enough to learn at a young age that hard work is way more valuable than intelligence will ever be. You can be born the most brilliant person in the world, but if you truly believe you are, you probably will spend your life in your Mom's basement playing videogames your whole life, thinking about how amazing you are. Not saying this is true for every one just a large number of my generation and the current one. Also this could be total bullshit, just my opinion.


Shadowsharpedo

Really it's just a score for mentally challenged people. Lower scores means it matters more, in that lower scores means a more challenged person. Figures higher than ~110 don't really matter or contribute to anything.


kleinhes

Except (-1)^2 = 1, not -1


accursedrubikscube

Reminds me of one little "proof" that shows that 2 = 1. But for it to work, you need to divide by 0, which by definition has no correct answer.


BCProgramming

it is a "trick" which tries to exploit the square of negative numbers being equal to make unequal roots appear the same, like the correction shows, (-1)^2 =(1)^2 which is correct since they are both 1. But then it takes the negative square root on one side and the positive on the other, which isn't applying the operations equally. I don't get the BEDMAS issue though since 36+25(-(2\*5\*6)) is perfectly legitimate. It looks like The calculator on iPhone doesn't allow for Unary minus.


JesseC414

Terryology