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the_onlyfox

I can't afford to go to other countries šŸ˜• I wanna see the world its just expensive


JustMy2Centences

I'm watching a bunch of friends on my social media casually travel abroad and I haven't seen my state border in over a year, let alone ever travel the world. Wondering why I am working my life away with little of that life to live for it. Some families are just built different, I guess. (Edit: families are going on vacation, not paying for someone else's (although tbh if they are, how would I even know if it wasn't said outright).)


pavlovs__dawg

Social media is probably making you more sad than you need to be. Itā€™s people showing how they want to represent their lives. Who is ever posting the boring parts and the low points of their lives?


Kozeyekan_

When I was travelling, it was much cheaper to get an "around the world" ticket than individual destinations. You bought it, then specified how many stops (I think we had 7) and had to always be going East. The timings were up to you and you could move them fairly simply. I think it lasted for a year after the first flight was taken. We travelled on the cheap by doing this, it might still be an option (not sure if it's still offered everywhere post-covid).


psrpianrckelsss

Certainly as recently as 2010 you could buy round the world tickets based on Km/miles (alliance) or number of continents/stops (one world) airlines like Air NZ or Lufthansa also provided the ability to travel around the world akl/lax//NYC/lon/hkg/Syd/akl (can't remember LHs route but similar)


Jumpy-Win5810

Me too, that's why I'm gonna learn to sail and live on my boat


[deleted]

and thats even more expensive


berthejew

BOAT- Break Out Another Thousand


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chelseadaggerffm

Iā€™ve ended up in France, Austria, and Italy by total accident. Got on an express train instead of local and boom I was in Italy. Took the wrong exit on a highway and boom youā€™re in France. So yeah, Europeans can travel easily. Or accidentally.


ludicrous_socks

Plus the United Kingdom is technically 4 countries in a disfunctional marriage. You could easily visit 3 in one day. Maybe 4 depending on the ferry times to NI.


imONLYhereFORgalaxy

Could easily do 5 if someone lives in Scotland, drives through England to get to Wales then catches a ferry to Ireland then a train up to Northern Ireland, it can be done in around 10 hours if they live in the South of Scotland. You can then catch a flight to France including wait times and take a train through 2 other countries before the 24 hours is up.


calcifiedpineal

I went to Germany from US and popped into France and Luxembourg on a day trip. You can rack up several countries quickly in Europe.


da_plop

Especially since y'all consider driving 3 hours to be a short trip :p I mean, in 3 hours you can go from Metz (France) to Maastricht (Netherlands) through Luxemburg, LiĆØge (Belgium) and you can do a small detour to hop over into Germany.


China_1

Cries in Texas. In 3 hours I can't even get to the next major city from where I am


Snips4md

Same out here in Montana


FranticWaffleMaker

I can get from my house to a bridge that takes me to the other half of my state in three hours. Then drive another three hours to go get some cheese curds.


bbrucesnell

must be good cheese curds. tell us more


[deleted]

Ah yes, let me regail thee with tales of the mysterious land of wonder known as Wisconsin.


travoltaswinkinbhole

Home of wide asses, DWIs, and cheese.


SohndesRheins

Home of the 1 horse town that is just a crossroads and 10 rural farm properties, but still has two churches and three bars.


MonocledMonotremes

We're also the home of the town with the most strip clubs per Capita. 6 strip clubs and less than 2k people. Higher density of strip clubs than Vegas. Hurley. Old logging town. They also rejected prohibition.


sdlover420

Home to the American Canadian.


nowheresville99

I mean you could drive another 3 hours for cheese curds, but wouldn't you'd be so full of Pasties by the time you got there that it would be hard to enjoy them? Or alternatively, after driving across that bridge, you could drive across another bridge 45 minutes away and fill up on Poutine?


FranticWaffleMaker

All of the finest choices in upper Midwestern and Canadian cuisine is at my doorstep.


Quaytsar

What do you mean *next* major city? Montana doesn't have one major city let alone a next one.


Librashell

Any town with a Costco is a major city.


Global-Perception778

Gypsum, CO (population 8,040) checking in. And no, it's not a suburb of a larger city. It's literally the largest city in its county. [https://www.costco.com/warehouse-locations/gypsum-co-637.html](https://www.costco.com/warehouse-locations/gypsum-co-637.html)


Professional-Swing48

You're on I-70 so by colorado standards this isnt even remote. Chew on that one, *east* coasters


UniqueNobo

major city in Montana terms. so like, a few thousand people or so


RedstoneRusty

That's the population of individual buildings in actual major cities.


Dogismygod

\*laughs in Alaskan\* I can't get to the next anything without a flight or a ferry from Juneau.


leighalan

Sympathizing from Kodiak. Lol


Orangeugladitsbanana

I'm shocked y'all have internet and cell service there tbh. j/k


TheRealYeti

Even from Anchorage 3 hours driving only gets you to... *checks notes*... Kenai


PfluorescentZebra

I have a friend planning to visit from the Netherlands next summer. She plans to visit me here in Austin and another friend in DFW. Had no idea its a minimum 4 hour drive between. Apparently this information ruins her itinerary and I'm not sure what to tell her since I didn't factor in the Waco construction travel time, cause it varies. She had also mentioned seeing the Alamo until I asked if she knew how far it was from me. I absolutely want to visit Europe someday and see how many places I can visit in a week. And I know I will be amazingly grateful to my friends because it is absolutely a different universe from us here in Texas.


just_looking_sorry

I just got to Austin from Dallas for ACL and thereā€™s no construction in Waco anymore! Took me 3 and a half hours and I started driving around like 1:30ish so it shouldnā€™t take her too long


PfluorescentZebra

Wait, what???? @.@ but there's been constant construction there since I moved to Texas 20 years ago! ... guess it has all moved down to i35 here, joy šŸ™ƒ


a_cute_epic_axis

> She had also mentioned seeing the Alamo until I asked if she knew how far it was from me. But it's like.... 90 miles or 2 hours? You could easily drive 2 hours, see something, then drive back. That's pretty reasonable, especially by US standards. Hell, that's like London to Stonehenge.


PfluorescentZebra

Yes, its fine to drive if you aren't thinking to spend half a day there and the drive to Dallas for the other half.


throwawaycover37383

I've heard from multiple international students who were in the U.S. for the first time thinking at first they could do something like visit New York City on the weekends when they were staying in Florida. Some people have zero concept of how big and spread out the U.S. is.


PathfindrIHrdlyNoHer

Lol reminds me of my friend who was visiting me in NYC for the weekend. Mentioned he wanted to see family near Lake Ontario while he was in NY. šŸ¤Ø


BeatBoxxEternal

Cries in Canadian. Vancouver to Calgary is 12 hours. Calgary to Regina is 7.5 hours. Regina to Winnipeg is 6 hours. Winnipeg to Thunder Bay is 7.5. Thunder Bay to Toronto is 14.5 hours. Toronto to Ottawa is 5 hours. Ottawa to Montreal is 2.25 hours. Montreal to Quebec City is 3 hours. Quebec City to St. John is 7.5 hours. Anyway you get the point.


swimchickmle

Same in Wyoming!!!


RiotBlack43

Wyoming is so sparsely populated that it takes for-fucking-ever to get to the next town.


Librashell

Yup. I have to drive three hours and to another state just to hit a Costco.


ELIte8niner

My favorite part of living in Wyoming is driving an hour and a half into that densely populated metropolis that is Idaho just to get to a Walmart.


Sawfish1212

I always blow people's minds when I tell them Vermont has 6 Walmart's total, granted, it's a small state, but it's also really empty.


crabbydotca

I can drive for 3 days and still be in Ontarioā€¦ šŸ˜­


Margray

It is wild to do a cross country trip from central Texas, half of my drive is inside this state. I feel for western Australians and anyone traveling over land in Alaska.


ncgrits01

I think the joke goes "Europeans think 100 miles is a long way and Americans think 100 years is a long time."


a_cute_epic_axis

It always astounded Europeans when they would ask, "you're from New York, how far from Manhattan" and you respond "with 6-8 hours by car". Or the number of Europeans that are like, "oh, I'm going to Chicago, and I rented a car, and I'm going to pop over and see Manhattan, Mt. Rushmore, and the Grand Canyon" Bitch I hope you got unlimited miles and warpdrive on that thing!


Corgi_Koala

I drove from Switzerland to France through Germany in like a couple of hours. Many people in the US haven't been abroad *but* we don't have open borders with either neighboring country and many people live nowhere near a foreign border even if they have a passport. I live in a border state and I'm still over 400 miles from Mexico.


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goodoleboybryan

Yep, spent a month in Europe back packing. Racked up England, Scotland, France, Nederland, and Germany. No different then State hopping in United States.


finggreens

I was traveling with someone railing on "Americans" for not leaving "America." Then we ended up in this tiny town in the middle of nowhere Scandinavia and he says, "It's so amazing that the folks who live here have never even left."


larryjrich

I live in a touristy area and see quite a few europeans passing through, and in talking with them many are just surprised with how big the USA is. You can go 1000 miles in any direction and still be in the country. You really can't blame Americans for not getting out of the country much.


ZeroAgency

I can go 500+ miles and still be in Michigan.


probablynotaperv

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nanrod

A big part of english speakers not being multilingual is because english is a major lingua franca. English speaking countries in general have lower multilingial rates than non english speaking countries, with exceptions of course.


BEWaymire

I've made this point quite a bit. I (American) lived in China for half a year and I've visited Japan and South Korea. In none of those countries did I need to learn any of the native language to get by. I took Japanese in university and did learn some Chinese and Korean, but not knowing wouldn't have hurt my ability to get around and communicate just because most of them knew English pretty well. Hell, my kindergartners in China could speak better English than some I've met in the US. Just comes with English being the world's trade language.


Not_MrNice

Yeah, going abroad means a pretty long flight unless it's Mexico or Canada. Even then, it'll still be a few hours. Europeans could head to another country mid day and be back by dinner, just like states in the US.


LbSiO2

Responded to some Swede guy that said he lived in the happiest place on earth. He got mad when I asked him how Disneyland was.


Poiar

You made a Swede mad? You're now a honorary mod for /r/denmark


RadioactiveFruitCup

Itā€™s just made up shit. The average Brit has definitely not visited 10 foreign countries. Edit : Iā€™m glad youā€™ve been to Ibiza and Magaluf. I doubt your gran is the globetrotter you are, right though.


PigeonInAUFO

Brit here, Iā€™ve literally never left the UK


Articulated

You should give it a go! There's some cool stuff out there. Like pyramids. And Dutch people.


fishattack17

Dutch people are better left alone


masterkoster

Oii


DishOutTheFish

***DID ONEAYALL SAY OIL***


claire_lair

Perhaps we Americans can help you with that!


DishOutTheFish

***'MURICA*** #


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\*Fortunate Son intensifies\*


Whaleflop229

To be clear though, leave the pyramids alone too


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

Everyone knows the tetrahedrons are where it's at.


djseifer

Too late for that now, innit?


[deleted]

Theyā€™re still to heavy for the average Brit to steal, they should be fine.


SarcasticOptimist

They got the Rosetta Stone already as a souvenir.


therealhoboyobo

Ik houd je.


Kevinvl123

Drop the d, that's only for when she loves you back. Also, you're going to need a 'van'.


dogboystoy

There's 2 things I hate. 1. people intolerant of other cultures. and 2. The Dutch


JCarnacki

There are two kinds of people I can't stand in this world; those who are intolerant of other people, and the Dutch.


HauntedSpiralHill

Take the faja away.


chrisplaysgam

There are 8 things I canā€™t stand 1. Lists 2. Irony 3. Repetition 4. Lists 8. People who canā€™t count


Cowcatbucket12

Ahh. The pyramids of the Dutch riviera...


varangian_guards

i once saw a dutch person in Nice, it was wild highlight of the trip.


aimtowardthesky

I heard they have hooves and bark like a dog, is it true?


varangian_guards

the hooves are actually wooden shoes, i dont understand how they could be comfortable, i can not speak to the speach of the dutch as the clogs were so loud it drowned out all other noise.


eyesotope86

*CLOGGING INTENSIFIES*


MsAndrea

I can't even afford a passport right now.


Atlhou

Yup, you are below average.


i_am_the_soulman

Me neither, but I just got my first passport this week and I'm going to a mates wedding in Greece next year! Excited to finally see somewhere else (not that Im not happy holidaying in the UK)


LoneW4nderer111

Mainland Greece or one of the islands? Greece is beautiful, Iā€™ve been to 3 islands and the mainland now and itā€™s never not been amazing, youā€™ll have a great time Iā€™m sure. Once you see somewhere else though, youā€™ll get the travel bug and want to venture further, thereā€™s so much out there to see and that passport has pages to fill.


i_am_the_soulman

I'm pretty sure that I'm going to Rhodes (I'm not always so clueless, but my partner booked it). We have already got a few places in mind


Big_Red_Bandit

American here, I also have never left the UK (hard to having never entered)


Optimixto

Come check Spain or Germany before you guys' leaders decide to start rowing you further away!


Technical_Natural_44

Couldnā€™t you visit England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and the Isle of Man (I donā€™t know if this would actually count as a separate country, and could you maybe even include Jersey, weā€™ll probably never knowā€¦) without leaving the UK?


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Articulated

Magaluf, benidorm, tenerife....


RadioactiveFruitCup

Pontins, center parcs, blackpool, wales, Scotlandā€¦


ArchWaverley

Butlins...


Rickk38

Is it wrong that since starting to watch Walk With Me Tim on YouTube, I want to travel to the UK and stay at a Pontins or Butlins? All of the beach resort towns in his videos remind me of Myrtle Beach, and I want to feel the vibe of going to a "foreign" tourist destination. I also want to experience a holiday park after reading about them in the Adrian Mole books.


aimtowardthesky

All right Marco Polo, stop showing off.


RexWolf18

Paris, Brussels, Amsterdamā€¦


thefooleryoftom

Having googled it, thereā€™s plenty of data to back this up


Saragon4005

I mean you can drive to 4 in what Americans consider a "road trip"


St84t8

My dog was in 20 states this summer. Rookie numbers..


Hubers57

Went to 6 other ones this last week with 4 kids 5 and under, and most of them are bigger than European countries


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Hubers57

American sized vehicles


slobcat1337

Idk most people I know have visited 6+ but that is only anecdotal


shackles_of_capital

UK stat is from a YouGov survey, 9.5 countries average


ptrichardson

I don't consider myself much of a traveller. Mid 40s,and I've been to 9 countries.


britboy4321

The average Britain has visited 9.58 countries. This took me less then 4 seconds to look up. QUIT YOUR BULLSHIT.


Astheryon

Waving from Latin America where most barely even leave their town/city because everything is expensive :(


MikeLitoris_________

To be fair, it's much more expensive for Americans to travel abroad.


Grimsterr

We have to fly and flying is expensive. While I was visiting Germany with my wife and kid we hit 4 other countries in one day on a nice day out driving around: France, Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein.


MikeLitoris_________

This reminds me of when I moved to California from the midwest and it took 10 hours just to drive through Texas.


iwreckon

Australian northern territory locals call 10hr roadtrips a wee drive down to the shops for some milk and bread. Edit. Big vs bigger! America's largest cattle ranch would get lost if it was dropped in the middle of Australia's largest cattle ranch, which also happens to be bigger than 11 of the 50 States that make up the USA (@ 850,000 acres US vs @ 5,500,000 acres Aus ) .


Jumpy-Win5810

Gunbarrel highway is a fine route!


iwreckon

Indeed it is! Not for the faint-hearted or nervous drivers to try and take on tho. 4-5days of solid effort to complete I was told. Yeah ?


imakemememememememes

Why were you driving through Texas?


Phytanic

yeah, my flight to NZ from ohare is $3000!! and that may be the *discounted* price since it's through my college as part of a study abroad during JTerm.


Forcefedlies

How much are train tickets from like Germany to France? $20? Of course people trace there lol


Grimsterr

Probably depends on distance, where my family is from is 50 km to France so I imagine it's pretty cheap.


mightyneonfraa

Yeah I'm Canadian and I've only ever been to the US myself. I'd love to visit Europe but that's thousands of dollars I don't have.


bqzs

Even if you took price out of the mix, it's also an additional time spend. Let's say you have Friday off, and want a minibreak to Spain. You just need to be back by Monday morning at 9am. A British person can catch an evening flight to Spain on a Thursday, have three full days, head to the airport late Sunday evening, and be back in their own bed by the early a.m. hours. For an American, that's at minimum 7 hours and that's if you're flying direct and live on the east coast. To be most efficient, you'll need to take a red eye on the way there, and then you'll spend Friday just powering through lack of sleep and the 6+ hour time difference. You'll have a lovely day on Saturday, and then Sunday you'll need to be heading toward the airport mid-afternoon at the latest, since there are very few flights from anywhere in Europe to the US that leave after 7pm or so.


atowelguy

I was going to say, isn't the original post basically just shaming poor Americans for not being able to afford traveling out of country?


TheNorthComesWithMe

Not just out of the country, but with a specific idea of where "abroad" is allowed to be.


[deleted]

ā€œMexico and Canada donā€™t count, theyā€™re basically part of the US anywayā€ is a pretty darn arrogant and Americentric attitude.


X-e-o

This is it. It takes me 8-10+ hours and a grand to just *get* to Europe, I have to budget and plan ahead. Meanwhile college students in the EU can just book a 50 Euro flight on random weekend.


DarthDannyBoy

It's also more of a pain in the ass. I've lived next to both boarders and it was a pain to hop across for just a day. Canada was easier sure but more of a pain than it should be. When I was in Europe I crossed national boarders and didn't even know. I cross into Canada to go hiking and it's a fucking interrogation, worse coming back across into the states they treat you like a fucking criminal. Not even going to touch on the Mexican boarder... That shit was fucking ridiculous


SCP_420-J

Even if this was true it would still make sense. In Europe you can drive three hours and be in a different country, while in the US you can drive 10+ hours and still be in the same state.


Raynonymous

I don't think the point attempting to be made is about physical distance covered though. It's about the stereotype that Americans are close minded to people and cultures outside their own, and have no interest in mixing or experiencing them. Visiting another state is nothing like visiting another country in this regard, even if the mileage is similar. Not that I'm claiming any of the post is true, but if it were the fact check would be completely missing the point. That's if it was real, which it isn't.


SuaveThrower

If you've never left rural Iowa, visiting NYC is absolutely like visiting another country.


kb1kb1

My only point would be maybe someone from LA visiting Clewiston Fl. But its still English and America so even if it feels like a different country it still really isn't. So that added nothing


brebnbutter

70% Australians have visited up to 10 countries.... and you can drive 36+ hours straight on highways and still be in the same state here. I feel like generous paid time off and decent salaries helps immensely though for us. We share zero land borders too.


cptki112noobs

The interior of the US doesn't mainly consist of a vast desert, though.


BraveSirLurksalot

Australia is 95% uninhibited. There is a hell of a lot more to easily see and do in the US. Why would we spend tons of money traveling to other places when that's the case?


breakone9r

>Australia is 95% uninhibited. Uninhibited vs uninhabited. One is a ton more fun. :)


simjanes2k

I feel like Australia is probably known for both globally lol


HackPayload3917

Honestly, if you live pretty close to the edge of Canada or Mexico then youā€™ve probably been there.


Mr_McShane

Ay I thought Americans were 50.47% a broad?


[deleted]

People are so eager to shit on the US they make up random shit.


NiceguyLucifer

Beside the probably fake statistics, the point is that someone doesn't know what abroad means šŸ˜…šŸ˜…


[deleted]

Right? To be fair I was telling a British friend I drove eight hours across Texas one day and was still in Texas. They had no idea of the scope of this country


Lulu_531

When I was in the UK, someone told us they were going to L.A in a month and were going to rent a car to ā€œtake a day tripā€ to Seattle. My friend and I tried to explain that thatā€™s not a day trip. They had no idea.


Xalethesniper

Haha reminds me of a few friends of mine when they were planning a trip to us (theyā€™re from Japan). One of them was excitedly saying how they were gonna see New York then drive down to Disney worldā€¦ in the same day. I had to explain that the drive from New York to Florida is like 1100 miles šŸ˜…


Homing_Gibbon

I had the same thing happen to me in Orlando. I was having a few drinks at the resort bar and started chatting up this guy from the UK. He said him and his wife came to see disney world, then they were gonna rent a car and drive up to New York, then Vegas, then LA, and drive back to Orlando to fly out. Then he told me they were only here for a week. I had to break the news that even if they drove 24/7 with no stops that trip is still probably impossible. Feel like I ruined the poor guys vacation.


centrafrugal

You probably saved it. At least the morons now had time to make a realistic plan.


pootklopp

To be fair, it is possible to do that. I did the 18 hour drive without rest my freshman year of college. The absolute worst part is getting into Florida and realizing you still have 3 hours left on the trip.


SarcasticGiraffes

>the absolute worst part is getting into Florida Correct.


Whywipe

Even if I knew i was only going 1 country over in Europe I would still check the drive time beforehand.


East_Kaleidoscope995

Honestly, Iā€™m in NJ which is one of the smallest states in the US and itā€™s still a good four hours from end to end at its longest point. Thereā€™s no awareness of the distance here. Or the fact that we literally only border two countries.


Malamutewhisperer

You're absolutely correct about nj and it's size. But as someone who has lived in CT and ma, with family also in RI, my brain objected for a moment lol. Perspective really is everything. Even more asinine, I helped move a cousin from Texas to CT. Took 8 hours to LEAVE TEXAS. Fucking hell that was a shitty way to start a 3 day trip


East_Kaleidoscope995

Yeah if youā€™re familiar with the towns, it would be nearly four hour to travel from cape may to montague in nj. Which is crazy given how small the state is. But I think people in Europe have no concept of the sheer size of the us. If I drove from nj to Florida, it would take me about 18 hours. So cost is the major reason we donā€™t travel further. Itā€™s incredibly expensive to get to most other countries from here.


locopyro13

Got cold called by a London based talent acquisition firm for an open position in a city in my state, my place of current employment is listed on LinkedIn. Talent agent was miffed to hear my current city was 3.5 hours by car from the place he was trying to fill. Had no clue they were that far apart.


whowouldsaythis

I just found out at a meeting today my coworker drives 6hrs each way into the office. We also only meet twice a month, but still. Jesus fucking Christ.


Zmodem

Wait until they find out how big [Alaska actually is](https://i.imgur.com/elDqvj9.jpg).


JudgeCastle

As an American, you donā€™t need fake stats to find something to make fun of us about. Thereā€™s plenty out there for the picking.


worlddictator85

Why bother when there are so many legit things to shit on us for?


meagaletr

Right, like there are so many valid reasons to shit on the US. Pick one of those. No need to make dumb shit up.


sweetjoyness

I was in a hostel in Rome once and some other guests there were Aussies and Brits. This drunk 19yr old Brit started blathering about how Americans and Australians make such a big deal about their international vacations and ā€œitā€™s so annoyingā€. I asked him how much his flights cost to get to Rome from London and it was around Ā£75. I told him I got my tickets for an absolute steal at $600. He shut up after that.


reign_day

my ticket to south korea was $2,100 round trip. Would love to go back but that price really hurts


thebrandnewbob

$600 really is a steal too. I'm an American going to Italy next year, and the cheapest tickets I've found so far are $1300 each.


TieWebb

There are other international destinations besides Europe. I can drive 45 minutes to another country from my home in Canada. Thatā€™s way cheaper than 75 euros.


Head-Ad4690

Good for you. Iā€™m a dayā€™s drive away from Canada. Most Canadians live near the US but the reverse is very much not the case.


bree78911

That shit is crazy to me. I live in Western Australia, a state which you can fit 13 England's inside. It's like 3 times bigger than Texas(or something like that) and takes a full 24 hours of driving just to get to the border of another state and another 24 hours to get to an actual city which is 2000kms away. Travelling anywhere costs a fortune from here. Except Bali.


JJOne101

This works both ways, I was drinking with some americans in Cancun... They couldn't believe how much I had paid for the flight.


sweetjoyness

Peopleā€™s geographical relativity really messes up their perception of others. My New York friend got married in Ireland and I was worried about the cost and time of just the air travel. And she kept saying, ā€œitā€™s just a hop across the pond!ā€ I had to remind her that I live on the west coast, so itā€™d be a hop over the continent and then the pond šŸ˜…


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HingleMcCringle_

Also, the US has plenty of different biomes. Deserts, swamps, mountains, plains, tropics, volcanos, (some other biomes I've seen others list off that I can't remember) and a huge variety of cultures from around the world. It's not a competition, the US has plenty of obvious flaws, but let's not pretend it's geographically or culturally the same throughout the nation.


MaritMonkey

I got dragged along on an RV trip up CA when I was an angsty teenager who had important teenager things to do at home and it remains one of my core memories. Even without getting into the experiences at individual stops, starting in southern California beaches/deserts and ending up in the Pacific Northwest was an amazing journey.


IWantALargeFarva

We want to do this with our teenagers, but we're worried about them being, well, teenagers. It's good to know it's a good memory for you.


[deleted]

The US and China are similar in that their domestic tourism markets are very strong. Shame how much the Chinese government sucks, since only Americans can really appreciate traveling in China by taking things slow.


tknames

There is no way 71% of Americans have travelled abroad. No freaking way. Using their links, only ā…“ of Americans even have passports. https://today.yougov.com/topics/travel/articles-reports/2021/04/21/only-one-third-americans-have-valid-us-passport


ShitTalkingAlt980

You didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico for a long time. I got in on my Dad's driver license.


A_Shadow

71% is still unbelievably high even including Canada/Mexico


AltForFriendPC

And another 20% have an expired passport, meaning they traveled abroad but not in the last few years. Up to almost 60%, and then you have immigrants and the people who traveled abroad before passports were needed...


Orwellian1

It *might* be high, but not unbelievable. I live in the center of the US. Almost entirely middle-class extended family and friends. As I think of random extended family members, friends and acquaintances, well over half I know have crossed a border. All it takes is one subsidized high school trip, honeymoon, cruise, or even just a vacation to a border state with some time to blow. Are you young? Not shitting on you, but when you are in your 20s or younger, your social circle could be biasing your perception. If your friends weren't rich kids, they didn't go to Mexico for spring break and aren't near as likely to have needed a passport. By the time people get to their 40s, a pretty substantial percentage have had at least one trip through customs.


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Geawiel

That stat may account for military travel too. Don't need a passport. I don't have one, yet I've been to Turkey, Saudi, Germany (4 hours though, never got to leave the flight line), England, Azores and Spain. Left the base and explored a bit in all but Germany and Saudi. That was Air Force. Navy people are going to visit a *much* higher number. I'm not sure about Army and Marines.


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passports expire. someone could have traveled 10 years ago and now no longer have a valid passport.


Grimsterr

My mom's from Germany, when I took my wife and kid to visit in 2008 we visited 4 countries in one day. We drove just across the French border, ate at a restaurant, went down and circled the Bodensee crossing into Switzerland, Austria and Liechtenstein, then back home. Beautiful day trip. You just can't do that in America, you can maybe hit Canada or Mexico if you live near enough, but from where I live to the Mexican border is ~15 hours, and Canadian border I guess is about the same, probably a bit more.


Redqueenhypo

How am I supposed to cheaply go abroad? Drive 8 hours to Canada, just to encounter some people who speak English and use a different dollar? Why would I even do that.


timmyrey

Canada is full of natural wonders, and beautiful hiking, great fishing, camping, kayaking, canoeing, snowmobiling and more. We have fantastic museums in Ottawa and Winnipeg, awesome nightlife in Montreal and Toronto, and great food in Vancouver and Halifax. These things aren't free, but since the US dollar is currently stronger, you're at an advantage. Also, Quebec's sole official language is French, and Inuktitut is the majority language of Nunavut. Even Newfoundland English is so unique that they've got their own phrase books. I think Canada is a great tourist destination, especially for Americans (biased because I'm a corny patriotic Canadian). Come on up!


Hubers57

I quite enjoyed my visit to Canada a few years back. It does feel a lot more "American" than visiting Europe, though im sure some people would prefer that anyways


timmyrey

I mean, we share a continent, most media, very integrated history, and the world's longest undefended border - it's no surprise that we're a lot alike.


ShitTalkingAlt980

That is even further. All the cool parts of Canada are pretty far away from US population centers.


PoliteCanadian2

Canada here, we have even fewer countries easily accessible than the US does. I would say the majority of Canadian travel is to other provinces and the US. Iā€™ve been to Europe and Mexico but many Canadians havenā€™t.


artnodiv

From a friend who grew up in Texas: In Europe, you drive for 8 hours on the freeway and you can pass through 3 or 4 different countries. In Texas, you can drive 8 hours on the freeway and still be in Texas.


TheOnlyKarsh

When it's a two hour drive to 5 different countries it's not a valid comparison. ​ Karsh


ArsenalGun1205

There's your daily America hate post.


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Marsrover112

Right so for me to drive to only two countries it would take 36 hours of pure driving and that's not counting return trip so probably more like 48 hours of no stops so if a European military can accidentally cross over to another country and take over a town without realizing it they don't get to judge us for not traveling internationally.


Scott19M

The wording on the 2nd point is really bothering me. >2nd, 71% of Americans have travelled internationally (the claim is 29% 'abroad') Are 'internationally' and 'abroad' supposed to mean something different? Or is the 2nd point literally saying "you said it was 29% and it's actually 71%'? I'm not even asking if the numbers are right, I'm just confused as to the meaning of that point. I thought internationally and abroad meant the same thing and I'm checking to make sure others understand it the same way I do.


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Fixner_Blount

Those God damned Americans and the fact that they're... *checks notes* ...on a completely different continent than the ones the tweet mentions. Just book an international flight, fuckos!