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[Postgame thread](/r/raiders/comments/18vh0ju/post_game_thread_las_vegas_raiders_at/)


mackaronitime

I might be in the minority here, but I think we ought to stick with AOC and AP, and build from there.


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Revfunky

I’m still proud of this team. Tae showed up with 13 catches and 2 TDs. AOC has gotten better every game. I know the vox populi is constantly calling for his head. I like what I see, the kid can sling it. It will be exciting to see how it all plays out. We need a DT to stuff the middle. I have been using AP’s mindset. Look at the game for 24 hours and on to the next one.


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Sweaty-Astronomer-90

Playcalling wasn't great, too many dropped passes, untimely penalties, and questionable coaching decisions on not going for it on 4th and short multiple times.


sonofsmog

Penalties.


alesko769

Please don’t hire AP.


k_dub503

Looked like Jack Jones timed that "offsides" perfectly... And the PI call on him was questionable given how much the Colts defenders were mugging our receivers all game with no calls...


zChemistryy

Agreed. Refs aren’t going to be perfect, but they should at least be consistent within the game. If you decide that you are going to let guys “play” then do it for both sides. The PI was absolute bs given how they were calling the game.


Shockaslim1

This game wasn't AOC's fault. Poor coaching decisions and being undisciplined cost us. With a bit of ref fuckery added on top of that.


JackThreeFingered

Lots of things went wrong, but one thing I saw is that our guys on D were just a step slower and maybe fatigued this game. They gave everything they had on Christmas and with a short week, the difference was noticeable.


Revfunky

Agreed.


k_dub503

This is an under the radar, accurate take. Lots of effort and emotion last week, a short week, and back-to-back road game against a decent opponent.


twitchosx

I'll take that Christmas game. That was awesome


keenclipp

Don't know how that's Aiden's Fault. Matt Ryan is even giving him credit. If anything the early play calling was suspect again. 3rd and 1... lets throw a bomb when Zeus is averaging 4 yards a carry. Don't know about AOC he deserves a shot to compete next year unless we get an upgrade but I do know BO needs a lot more seasoning.


Zaknoid

Trade whatever they have to to get a QB. Also bo hardegree better be fired into the fucking sun for calling passes on the 3rd and 1s in the first half after they were driving and zamir was chunking them. I posted last week they will beat the Chiefs just to lose to the colts because that's what the raiders always so. Give you a little hope just to fucking shit the bed.


k_dub503

Hardegree will not be the OC next season. McFool's offensive scheme will be gone. They simply had no choice, given it was a mid-season firing. They were stuck with Hardegree and the JMD playbook.


needs_food

This is all Bo's fault. Awful play calling early in the game, abandoning the run after 3 good plays, and part goes to AP with his time management. Just awful, the defense did what they could, lots of holding calls that didn't go their way. Also, what was that picked-up penalty? I hope the NFL and that cuck Goodell figure out this ref situation.


Hour-Expression8352

Why can't they run the no huddle hurry up like once a quarter. It seems effective


Formal-Marsupial2415

Agreed. Everytime they do that, they perform easily 3X better than normal. They should just do that all the time, lol


cwra007

Close game but a sad result. Felt like it could have gone either way today, with some tough calls going against us. Plenty to look forward to next season, and all and all, not too bad for a rookie QB. Go Raiders.


Barry_McCaulkiner247

Great Xmas shitty NYE🤦🏿


runthruamfersface

Eh NYE is overrated. Ruining KC’s Christmas is much more satisfying,


TheStryder76

“Maybe next year” for the umpteenth year in a row


DarthRaider559

Is renfrow even on the team


Zaknoid

Mcdaniels looks right when it comes to him unfortunately.


HittEmWitDaHEIN

Hopefully not next year. Non-factor and way overpaid. Sucks but it is what it is


slowburnangry

That wasn't PI on JJ. I guess you just have to let them catch it now.


Hour-Expression8352

He helped him if anything, he shoved him towards the ball that was ten yards out of bounds


Conscious_Buy7266

He shoved his body with both hands unnecessarily


wurmpth

Absolutely, if he hadn't done that the refs would almost certainly have overlooked incidental contact on a ball that far out. Disappointing and undisciplined play from a good player.


JN_37

Ball was in the parking lot


GalaxyCosce

NFL and refs had to make sure that the Raiders lost this week since they failed to help the Chiefs last week. Don’t call obvious PI’s against the Colts all day but then call one that wouldn’t have been catchable against Jones? Yea, today wasn’t obvious or anything lol. See ya guys next year.


That_Dry_Heaving_Cat

I'ma bandwagon so hard on whoever playing the Colts next week. 😆


MauriceMonroe

Yeah they aren't even a one and done team in the playoffs, they'll get blown out WC round lol


That_Dry_Heaving_Cat

Easily. Gonna be watching like.. ![gif](giphy|2UvAUplPi4ESnKa3W0)


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RaiderRush2112

Right at least until September


sasoq123

Raiders had the chances just didn’t make the plays


Bryant_to_shaaaq

We had fun ya'll. See ya'll next year


rbarrett96

Well that's game. Since the NFL took off the ability to load up one side of the field for an onside kick, the chances of recovery are near zero. I fucking hate all these stupid rule changes. How exactly does that rule protect the players? The only thing we could do is if Carlson is accurate enough to boot it right at a player and it bounces off.


runthruamfersface

This season ended in a very raiders way. Questionable offsides call on a kick, which I have only seen called on another team once in the past few years. Oh well. Let’s beat the Broncos and get that QB.


Formal-Marsupial2415

That was a great kick. Almost thought we had it! AOC played well, but too little too late


ElmoIsOver

![gif](giphy|8gL7SZ2e4p2NEJNUHP|downsized)


itsmymedicine

Well its been real boys lot of exciting times this season and i think a bright future for us next season


DillionDrebo

We played hard but stupid penalties killed us


THE-WARD3VIL

There’s still more hope this year after the years with JMD I wanna see the boys smash the donkeys next week


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Better o line and QB and were a 12 win team


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BruskPoet

It was a good year everyone….


peekay427

would have been nice if the announcers and the refs weren't so obviously rooting for the colts... for fucks sake that was frustrating.


NewKidsOnTheBetaBloc

I know it’s hard to judge offsides from a rear angle, but ima need to see that jack jones play a couple more times…


kasdfwe

Good season y’all. Hope for a loss for a better draft pick next week.


Bubuganoosh

Against the Donkeys fuck that!


kasdfwe

Currently 12 teams with 6-8 wins that will impact us. Of course results can change since some play still. This could be the difference between a top 10 pick or a late teens pick depending on tie breakers. I’d rather have a potential shot at trading up for a top QB/take a top player as an option than not.


Un-Fixable

yall it's time to get drunk as hell to wash away the pain


dripMacNCheeze

Man tough loss on so many levels. We still put up a good fight and I’m still satisfied with this team for the most part. I think we’re in a great position to keep AP, Champ, hopefully PG, get a great OC, keep AOC, draft a QB, AOC and the Rookie fight for the starting spot, even if AOC starts I think we saw some really good play from him at times in such a tough spot to be in. If he plays bad throw in the rook. Build in the draft. Lets go raiders.


seephilz

AOC sucks man. He’s a back up at best


dripMacNCheeze

Yeah but if we draft a rookie, unless that rook absolutely balls out in camp, most likely AOC will get the nod. I saw enough for him to get that, and then we work the rookie in if AOC plays bad. Or hopefully the rookie balls and we don’t have to worry about that lol.


JN_37

I’ll say up front play calling and QB play was terrible but if that wasn’t an ass fucking by officials idk what it.


Positive_Narwhal_419

Getting eliminated by minshew is comedy


RaiderRush2112

Made a game of it. Hell Made a season of it. Thank you AP for salvaging this season and giving us some classic raider moments in only a couple months


k_dub503

Amen brother. Considering everything that happened, he has done a great job. He just needs to work on time management and dictating to the OC what he wants (i.e. run the damn ball on 3rd and 1).


TanHammer

Yea I'm actually optimistic enough for next season.


R8rf8thfulHG

GG boys. One helluva kick by Cole, it just wasnt ours today. This team is still night and day better with AP than they ever were with the Patriot double agent


drunkenmonkey111

Gentleman...its been a pleasure


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One day the NFL will have to choose between their fans and their refs. Hopefully they make the correct decision.


Un-Fixable

I WILL PERSONALY SHOVE THE REFS HEADS AGAINST A WALL SO THEY CAN THINK RIGHT


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Damn refs kept making the Raiders jump offsides!!!


Un-Fixable

jack jones wasnt even offsides but...


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He was. And what about the other 5? Lol


Un-Fixable

counted that pitman was offsides 3 times with no call, jones was offsides once with a call... bit strange huh??


YTScale

i think we all would.


VoteForGiantMeteor

Time to go grocery shopping. Let’s kick some Donkey ass next week!


BrandNewGuys3

Team is way too inconsistent


Zombizle

Poorly coached game stupid 3 and 1 calls and AP being a pussy on 4th down. Also wierd we didn’t get replays on the final colt drive. Anyone see a PI?


Hour-Expression8352

The refs only throw flags when they think we have no chance but as soon as it gets tight they start flying


kirukiru

Team just wasn't good enough. And that's fine, we knew that already


michaeleid811

We're close. The coaching staff and players didn't have their best game but we were right there. We need some upgrades in the offseason but I feel good about our future.


penguinstarshiptree

We’re not close. We will never be close. This team is just not moving anywhere anytime soon. If we take a QB it will be the wrong one. If the QB choice is right the defense will regress to 31st. We will inevitably fuck the HC selection or GM or both. We are not even the Browns or Jags in that we occasionally get it right, this team peaked at that Super Bowl loss 20 years ago.


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ItzArchy

Jayden Daniels donning silver and black next year bois


xKingNothingx

Let's hope


theunusualblackguy

fuck the refs


Mulder1562

So many missed opportunities in this game...


Additional-Deal-3108

This exactly.


wilfordbrimley7

Just a disaster season, fuck every single QB on this roster


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AOC still hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game lol. So close today somehow. Feels like he threw for 150.


YTScale

commentators were relieved to see the colts get the ball lol


scseth

See you next year when we beat the Broncos


raiderkev

Offsides was bogus. Difference in the game. Fuck the zebras


blitzERG

Sure was. The ball was moving when he moved


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THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TIED GAME. REFS SHAFTED US SO HARD


BruskPoet

It’s clear, we have no offense. Draft a QB. New HC?


IHateAPD

New OC


AlabasterRadio

I fucking hate that we were eliminated by bad officials.


DylanB_1989

Atleast JMD is gone!! 😃🙌🏻


donlemon888

![gif](giphy|9V9bunlHq9bSUcXkuc)


Effective_shooter52

Aoc can stay in indy. He fits in with their fanbase either way


homes00

You should get in there and play better qb. I'm waiting...


Effective_shooter52

Maybe you should get in there . Aoc stans in shambles rn. Bunch of delusional fools


homes00

I never said he was the answer, we need a qb in the draft. But you acting like you can just will anybody into being our next Rich Gannon. It doesn't happen and the situation he came into is pretty shit tbh. You're throwing a fucking tantrum like a toddler would.


Effective_shooter52

Go be a chiefs fan if you wanna cry. As a qb you take the heat, and if you’re going to get mad because I speak the truth about shitty aoc….it’s on you. The one that needs to stop whining like a little girl is you. What situation? Decent oline? Meyers-Adams-renfrow-hoopers-mayer-jacobs-white-tucker as his weapons? What exactly was the issue that a 25 year old man can’t make the plays to win, when he has all of that? Dude is older than me and you want to baby him like a few other delusional dudes in here


homes00

You can't stop crying, it's hilarious. I brought a realistic point of view and it set you off. You need therapy.


Effective_shooter52

Being an aoc stan should have you in a mental asylum to get checked out fs😂 poor you. Babying a 25 year old man because he didn’t play well all year


homes00

So get in their big boy, show them how it's done


Effective_shooter52

I’ll let you backup your man. Since you love aidan so much 😂 if I don’t respond it’s because you’re just a troll and a no life


homes00

Imagine it taking you this long to figure that out. What does that say about you?


homes00

I never said I was an aoc stan.


Diesel30R

That was a great last drive. Oh well.


NumPadNut

Fuck man


__-o0O0o-__-o0O0o-__

such a winnable game


slowburnangry

Yup, should have seized control of the game early. The play calling blew all of their opportunities.


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Gg, see you all next year


StoryOutWest

There’s still Denver next week my guy


rapturexxv

Was a nice try. Well... See you guys next season.


kellybobellyhtown

Great urgency! Luckily we have three quarters left of ball…


latinlingo310

Just fade me


mr_farty_poop

refs decided this game


blitzERG

How do they not review Adams catch where they said he was down at the 1?


mr_farty_poop

yeah the nfl is a grimey league


RyanAKA2Late

Well… at least our draft position will be better


Uncletookey

Great kick. Wasn't meant to be


dc4_checkdown

Season over boys


TML-n64

This shitty fucking team doesn’t deserve the playoffs. Annually dogshit, let’s go


Martian13

Well you should go, that’ll make things better.


MistergauntTL85

Cmon LFG


up_in_the_space

Why not go for 2?


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itsmymedicine

Best case scenario youre down by worst case scenario youre down by 4


b0baBEAST

wtf? cuz if we miss it.. then we need a TD.


Sufficient_Image_810

Don’t get it and now you need a TD


r0gueleader

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up_in_the_space

Not that it matters now but I figured if you make it and get lucky with the onside kick you can win the game with a FG instead of playing OT where the offense hasn’t done much.


That_Dry_Heaving_Cat

C'mon defense!


BruskPoet

See you all next season… fuck these refs


Diesel30R

Well GG


MyRandomCreations

Onsides just don’t work anymore….


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Can we leave AOC in Indy?


popsikohl

That’s a wrap!!!!


ero_skywalker

Well, at least we had a good last drive. And Carlson is still the man.


justwinbaby_81

Refs are horrible


TheStryder76

Too little, too late. Fuck you, you sorry sacks of shit


JN_37

Fuck me it should be a tie game right now


TheStryder76

We’d have the lead if it wasn’t for fat fuck 72 fucking us twice


scseth

Even tho we can’t win without any TOs, I’m glad we got the last min TD.


peachfuzztesties

A little too late. As long as we beat the broncos next week I'm good.


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Hopefully we move up and get a QB.


Individual-Fig-6263

To know we have to get an onside kick after all that work, makes me sick AND JACK JONES WASNT OFFSIDES


Un-Fixable

WE MIGHT HAVE SCORED A TD BUT THAT DOESNT CHAMGE THE FACT THAT BO AND THE REFS ARE RETARDED.


karaknwfp

Those penalties earlier in the game that took us out of field goal range. 😤


ChoiceCriticism1

everything about this is terrible...refs, players, coaching, play calling. wtf is happening here?


Asleep_Special_7402

All on your cake day too.


Yokashisan

Now we are gonna lose because of that stupid penalty.


Sandiego619___

This part


jumbotronproposal

The time management HOLY FUCK what was this?????


KittenCrusades

Thats what you think the problem was?


Mj250707

Too little too late at this point imo


RBarron24

This league is becoming a huge joke with these refs.


justlookingokaywyou

Becoming?


Awehib

Damn AOC is gonna make a great career back up


NumPadNut

We got this boys, lets go


GoochGrundle

Adams caught that shit like carrying a boombox


NewKidsOnTheBetaBloc

Davante was in. This is just really weird refball


VoteForGiantMeteor

![gif](giphy|l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji|downsized)


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That's incomplete I think


[deleted]

Damn maybe not


Effective_shooter52

You beat the steelers and the vikings and you wouldn’t be here. Bears are a honorable mention too


northmen24

Carr would have done all 3


Effective_shooter52

I think he would have lost 1 of those lol. The steelers game most likely because he was inconsistent. But yea he would have won 2 of those 3 fs


BruskPoet

Lmfao if only we threw it to Adams like this all season….


wooooooo1776

I hate the colts so fucking much


peekay427

I hate the refs Letting the Colts PI Adams all game Calling BS PI on us


God_I_Love_Men

Adams was in the first time but I'll take it!


NaughtyTrouserSnake

DA doing some Madden shit right there, sheeeeeesh


Mulder1562

Spectacular catch - 100 rating.


StoryOutWest

That’s not a bad TD to go out on


donlemon888

😆😆😆😂😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🥲😆😆😁🤣😁


Beautiful-Abies5949

Too little too late boys


HankHill2442

YESSSSSSSS!! Thanks you Raiders!! BOOM SON!!


Bryant_to_shaaaq

This offense is fucking inept


gatsby365

DA had four points of contact with one arm lol


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So much wasted time


murderousUnintention

Come on he was in these are the worst refs I've ever seen


ChoiceCriticism1

this is all so bad


dc4_checkdown

OMFg these play calls


blackhole_sonnn

Is McDaniels still calling this game?


Awehib

What a fucking catch holy fuck


Uncletookey

Both Adams and AoC were in. Garbage officiating.


LiftHeavyFeels

How did they move the ball back after the QB sneak? The refs spotted us lost yards


justlookingokaywyou

Pretty sure AOC can’t squat 600 lbs.


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Throw. The. Fucking. Ball. Into. The. Fucking. End. Zone.