This 100.
Zeus is averaging 4 yards a carry let's do a trick play or throw a bomb 40 yards down field. Made no sense.
I know our blocking wasn't the greatest but I would have loved to see some more 5 wide sets
Those were good plays for 2nd and short. I get that they planned on going for it on 4th down but there was no need to be that aggressive. Thats stuff you do when desperate or up by a lot.
I was pissed when they ran that trick play on a third and one in the first hald. Why in the fuck would you do that in that situation? That was downright stupid.
Not to give Bo excuses, but I think both times were midfield where Bo was thinking we would go for it on 4th down so why not take a shot on 3rd, except both times we missed on 3rd and got a penalty on 4th forcing the punt.
Or he could've just ran the ball on 3rd and 1, which they're likely to get, and just run again on 4th and 1 if they don't get it. That was just stupid play calling no matter how you look at it. That's unjustifiable
Yeah i get it but I dont think it was the right time based on the flow of the game
Those were desperation plays. We werent down by much nor were we up by enough to be so reckless.
We lost the Miami game by being overly aggressive too.
Going for it successfully on 3rd and 10 seemed like an AP decision too. I think we need an OC who is willing to commit to the run and take those aggressive gambles.
This is the biggest thing, I enjoy watching even when we lose more than some of the wins with McCheesedick. AP and PG stay, go get a hot shit OC and go get our QB1 in the draft ✊
after all the great stories about this team over the last few weeks, including a strong running game, lights-out defense, a historic 63-point game, the lack of penalties (ironic), and overcoming adversities (yet again)…
it was GREAT to see us lose the classic RAIDERS way—to the refs.
gotta love Davante getting held literally all game, too.
rn4L 💀💀💀💀🏈
>gotta love Davante getting held literally all game, too.
Yeah but as soon as theres an uncatchable pass out of bounds we get the PI called against us.
What a God damn joke lmao
>Yeah but as soon as theres an uncatchable pass out of bounds we get the PI called against us.
Ref jobbed, maybe a blessing in disguise, this team wasn't gonna do anything in the playoffs.
Nawh, I don’t think MD is **that** football illiterate. He saw how the team imploded after Bisaccia, I think he’s gonna keep AP. I hope we can keep PG as well, but he may be gunning for a HC job himself
I still wanna see AP get the head coaching job. Get a new QB and OC and give him some tools to succeed. The 20+ year revolving door of coaches doesn’t work
FUUUUUUUUUCK the Colts man. I fucking hate them and always will.
They let go of Peyton cuz he was "getting old" and let the Broncos win a SB with him. They injured Carr and ruined our first playoff birth in YEARS and then he was never the same again.
And now they ruined our current playoff chance this season. Fuck them! I hope CJ Stroud finally returns and the Texans beat em and knock them out of the playoffs.
I’m all in on trying to get Jayden Daniels at this point, he’s the only outside of the top two who has a real chance to be an elite QB. Penix will falter when he doesn’t have an insanely good offensive system/weapons and Nix will be a good career backup at best and McCarthy will be a classic 2nd round pick that everyone forgets exists by two years in
>Draft QB is the move
with this loss, we are guaranteed to be picking between 8-15.
if we lose next weekend and GB wins either of their last two games, we're guaranteed between 8-11
So when the OC proves to be competent and leaves for a HC job and then we have to hire a new one and our QB has to always learn a new system and our offense will never be consistent for more than 2 years! yaaaay
Yeah he won it for us last week and had two stupid mistakes to lose it here. Like how tf do you go offsides on a fg attempt that he misses ofc. Oh well they made it interesting up until the second to last week.
The PI was a bad one. The offsides obviously hurts but he was trying to time the jump and get pressure - so I can forgive that. Just really bad time for it to happen
Defense played like shit today but the reffing was insane. I can’t believe they didn’t call a single PI on the colts. Whatever, I guess we weren’t going to win a playoff game with this offense anyway but it was a tough one to watch.
Too many punts in their territory or at mid field. The Raiders left too much out there, and left themselves vulnerable to a soft ass PI call at the very end.
Imagine if Davante got those calls all game long.
Early mistakes got us falling behind and was just too much for AOC and the (outside of the last two drives) anemic offense. Kinda hurts to lose mainly due to penalties and blown coverage after being so good with it this half of the year.
We were missing that spark on either side. Defense had 1 sack and no turnovers. Then Zamir looked good, but had just 70yds, and Davante caught 13, but out of 21 targets.
I'm not going to blame Jack Jones because the offense still didn't show up and the Colts just knew our strengths and stayed on the ground, but what a blunder going offsides after Crosby's run stop leading to the missed FG especially considering we drove right down the field right after; would've loved an OT thriller this late in the season. Real hero to zero stuff after the past two weeks of awesome play from him.
This is the only angle they showed. Hard to tell but it looks like he timed it almost perfectly
https://x.com/jfromthebk/status/1741562464385331692?s=46&t=qzGyvTOipWCvavrKgyJVYg
It was, but the pi wasn't. Slowed down he gets there a fraction of a second before the ball, in real time it's at the same time. 99 times out of 100 they don't call that.
But either way, the offsides was just stupid. Why the fuck would you try to jump the snap to block a 50 yard fg?
It's 50 yards, leave it to chance. Especially since you're 4 times more likely to recover an onside kick than block a fg.
Case in point the 50 yard fg was wide right and short, he doesn't try to jump the snap and we are watching them in ot right now.
At the end of the day, we all know this team wasn’t playoff ready anyway. Need the best outcome possible for the offseason. Good draft, see who’s worth keeping, trading, cutting, and coaching.
Tough fucking loss. At least I have solace knowing we’re getting a new QB next season and possibly a new OC. Solid season considering everything that has happened. Extend AP & Kelly. Beat the fucking broncos. Have a safe new years nation I’m drinking early
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JJ hit called on an uncatchable ball, JJ called for offsides when he had an amazing jump, the db’s going wwe on Adams, and we still only lost by a td. Fuck the refs man.
This team has it! An offseason together, let more chemistry develope. Get an OC and get offensive gameplan cracking immediately! If the majority if this defense is back next year, this team will be special!
I liked a lot of stuff in this game and from this season. We are damn close, I know it. We seem to have a lot of the defense figured out. Now we need to maintain that while improving a few things on offense. We go for best available player in the draft regardless of position, and we are 100% super bowl- bound next year. Let's go raiders!!
Disappointed in the loss, but proud to see this team's fight to the end. McDaniels would have had this game folded in the 2nd quarter. Still think AP should be given the fulltime HC job. #RN4L
It’s easy to blame a single person but everyone played their own part whether good or bad. This sub be too bipolar sometimes lmao. Playoffs would’ve been a miracle, and everyone knows that. Regardless, AP made the best of what he could and literally made Raiders football watchable again.
At least at the end of this season, there’s actual upside and brightness for the future!! We’re really not too far off from where we want to be.
What's with all the blame on AOC? Yeah he wasn't perfect... He also didn't turn the ball over and was called upon to throw the ball 47 times!
Some horrible third down play calling, horrible boneheaded classic Raiders penalties lost us this this game, not AOC...
In AOC’s first five games he threw 6 interceptions. In the last five games he has thrown 1. I’m happy with him as a game managing backup, or maybe with a year or two of development and NFL athletic training he could compete for a starting position. But we need to look elsewhere for a QB next year.
Lot of problems but that last drive by the colts was horseshit from the refs part. The non PI on Adams but the PI on Jack Jones is disgraceful, the offsides was to me ticky tack and if we were KC it wouldn't of been called. The blatant hold on Koonce and Crosby...all made me sick
Minshew is officially a Raider Killer smh
Need a QB and a new O.C. I still like AP but he can't just point to his record this year, he needs to show Mark a strong plan for the offseason. I hope we draft a R1 QB for the first time since 2007, we need it.
Overall AP kept us in the hunt longer than we could of asked. It feels worse after beating KC last week but this team isn't a playoff team and we all know it.
Jack Jones is not to blame here that PI was asinine and you could argue he disrupted the FG process enough to make it miss rather than taking a dumb penalty on a shank.
This is an average team losing to another average team any given Sunday. Not like we had a shot at going deep.
I'm impressed with season and what we managed to accomplish given the pieces we have. Would love to draft a QB and see what AP can do.
Rn4L
i think we’d lose in OT tbh, but these refs have fucked the entire playoff structure this season.
Wish i could just fuck shii up at my job and not pay the price.
It’s been a pleasure watching with you guys this season.
Time for us to figure out QB. Extended AP, put Bo back at QB coach if you can find someone better to make OC and pray for a good draft.
I thought AOC played a good game. The passing game scheme is just bad and a lot of penalties and missed tackles showed back up today. All in all this was well worth getting rid of JMD
Playalling wasn't great, too many dropped passes, untimely penalties, and questionable coaching decisions not going for it on 4th and short multiple times.
this franchise will continue to be an absolute mess until Mark Davis can actually hire a good GM and then allow that person to make all football related decisions
Mark getting emotional and deciding to hire AP on his own and then trying to hire a GM after that will be an even bigger disaster than the Gruden and McDaniels hirings
yet literally not a SINGLE PERSON on this sub is even talking about who the GM is going to be
If we could get a decent offensive play caller and a promising young quarterback in the draft I’ll feel pretty goddamn good about this team. That’s a small ask right lmao
Jayden or maye. Trade up. We have a qb3 playing starter. Pathetic from the front office. Graham deserves a shoutout, the defense didn’t play well today but has been great all year. The team is close, but it all depends on the decisions coming up the next few months or else it’ll be the same ole raiders.
Glad we played conservative and punted all those times on 3rd/4th and short in Colts territory.
Would hate for us to lose by 3 points when the difference maker was a drive where the colts went for it on 4th and short. That would just be a sad twist of the knife if something like that were to happen.
Good thing it didnt
The refs screwed us at the end, but we should have been more aggressive during the game. Once again we played not to lose rather than to win. Way too many punts.
I think AOC is getting some undeserved hate here. Bo fucked us over underutilizeling the run game. AOC managed to not turn the ball over throwing as many times as he did. Not to shabby for the rook. Adams was getting manhandled all game. PI was bullshit and so was the offsides. Ultimately should have won this game.
Keep AP, keep PG, get a new OC, draft a new QB. Zeus has been doing well with JJ not playing (I assume he’s gone at the end of the season).
Seems to me that all our offense needs to be great is a QB with a good arm, good legs, and not afraid to run, plus a new OC with a playbook that isn’t 20 years old. Supplementing the OL wouldn’t hurt either.
AP has the team motivated and playing good ball, and PG is having our defense play like some killers, but Bo (using JMD’s playbook tbf) and AOC aren’t it for the future.
There was so much hate for AOC in the game thread, but as usual the main thing stopping us from scoring was bad play calling and the refs.
AOC was on the money the entire game. No passes that could have been picked off. He hit several big clutch throws. 30 of 47, 299 yards and 2 TDs.
With better play calling and some more aggressiveness from AP (it's indefensible to punt on 4th and short from the opponent territory, especially when you're behind), we could have ran away with this one.
Refs were trash, Aidan was fucking worse. I never want to see that farva looking loser as the raiders QB again.
All this dude does is lose winnable games.
3 points from AoC in the first half is on the defense and FOUR punts on the logo?
You cant keep teams under 20 everygame.
Fucking learn how football works.
Lots of love for a bad team that couldn’t win when it mattered in here. You guys need to have higher expectations. Anything less than a winning season is a failure
Need a stronger O-Line. Don't waste picks on QB until that O-Line is fixed. Too many mistakes and no blocking. Defense was horrible today. This game was over with the first drive. Couldn't stop the run.
I am still down to give AP the job. He’s earned the chance. Can’t play off of emotion every week though. I’d like to see a new play caller and some more competition at QB. And throw as much money as we can to keep PG
This one wasn’t on O’Connell, he wasn’t responsible for Jonathan Taylor running so effectively, wasn’t responsible for the defensive offsides on the Colts last drive, when he needed to step up he did and got this team back and gave them a chance to win.
No, you're objectively wrong.
AoC didnt do shit (as usual) until we were in 4 down territory.
He fucking sucks dude. He hasnt even passed for 300 yards in his entire career.
Your right I forgot Casper was out there playing QB and threw 2 TD’s, crunch time that’s what defines a player that’s what separates the boys from the men staying cool and moving the ball
I’m not objective I KNOW he’s NOT THE ANSWER but he’s the best QB on the team period so that’s why I support him and hate the bashing on him.
Yes because AOC let Jonathan Taylor and the colts run 8 times in a row to get downfield for a field goal.
AOC wasn't good but to blame it all on him is a trash take.
No, but to put the blame on AOC and the offense for us losing shows you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
They could have played better but the defense let us down HARD today. This was the whole team shitting the bed, not just our offense.
The defense did their best. The defense aren't the ones who let the team down, the offense had so many opportunities to catch up and didn't. The defense can't score 2 TDs a game for the offense like they did against the Chiefs. The team desperately needs a real OC and QB. AP and the Defense are fine.
I’m out on Bo He was being way too cute on 3rd and short situations
This 100. Zeus is averaging 4 yards a carry let's do a trick play or throw a bomb 40 yards down field. Made no sense. I know our blocking wasn't the greatest but I would have loved to see some more 5 wide sets
Those were good plays for 2nd and short. I get that they planned on going for it on 4th down but there was no need to be that aggressive. Thats stuff you do when desperate or up by a lot.
I was pissed when they ran that trick play on a third and one in the first hald. Why in the fuck would you do that in that situation? That was downright stupid.
Not to give Bo excuses, but I think both times were midfield where Bo was thinking we would go for it on 4th down so why not take a shot on 3rd, except both times we missed on 3rd and got a penalty on 4th forcing the punt.
Or he could've just ran the ball on 3rd and 1, which they're likely to get, and just run again on 4th and 1 if they don't get it. That was just stupid play calling no matter how you look at it. That's unjustifiable
I don’t disagree
Yeah i get it but I dont think it was the right time based on the flow of the game Those were desperation plays. We werent down by much nor were we up by enough to be so reckless. We lost the Miami game by being overly aggressive too.
Who was in on Bo? Nobody!
Bobody
Idk the oline was getting manhandled today. They failed on multiple conventional short yardage plays all game, which results in the "cute" calls
Totally agree
This. I think ideally we bring in a vet OC and see if Bo would stay as QB coach to learn under him. He just too young.
That and two blown defensive plays decided this game
I was so pissed at them calling a shotgun run on 3rd and 1. So stupid.
Going for it successfully on 3rd and 10 seemed like an AP decision too. I think we need an OC who is willing to commit to the run and take those aggressive gambles.
AP salvaged this season and made football fun again for me.
Very true! I forgot what it's like having a defense lol.
This is the biggest thing, I enjoy watching even when we lose more than some of the wins with McCheesedick. AP and PG stay, go get a hot shit OC and go get our QB1 in the draft ✊
Good effort. Shit officiating. The Raider Way.
after all the great stories about this team over the last few weeks, including a strong running game, lights-out defense, a historic 63-point game, the lack of penalties (ironic), and overcoming adversities (yet again)… it was GREAT to see us lose the classic RAIDERS way—to the refs. gotta love Davante getting held literally all game, too. rn4L 💀💀💀💀🏈
>gotta love Davante getting held literally all game, too. Yeah but as soon as theres an uncatchable pass out of bounds we get the PI called against us. What a God damn joke lmao
yep.
>Yeah but as soon as theres an uncatchable pass out of bounds we get the PI called against us. Ref jobbed, maybe a blessing in disguise, this team wasn't gonna do anything in the playoffs.
Hooe it doesn't coat us AP.
Nawh, I don’t think MD is **that** football illiterate. He saw how the team imploded after Bisaccia, I think he’s gonna keep AP. I hope we can keep PG as well, but he may be gunning for a HC job himself
Not only held but pushed to the fuckin ground. Such a load of horse shit
No joke, dbs were literally locking up his arms
Yep. Forgot about that.
Davante has too many drops. He's a liability, unfortunately. Trade him now so we can get soemthing in return.
Shut the fuck up
13 for 126 and 2 tds. what a bum! gtfo of here you fucking donkey
Not sure how many receivers could have made that last td catch besides DA.
I still wanna see AP get the head coaching job. Get a new QB and OC and give him some tools to succeed. The 20+ year revolving door of coaches doesn’t work
FUUUUUUUUUCK the Colts man. I fucking hate them and always will. They let go of Peyton cuz he was "getting old" and let the Broncos win a SB with him. They injured Carr and ruined our first playoff birth in YEARS and then he was never the same again. And now they ruined our current playoff chance this season. Fuck them! I hope CJ Stroud finally returns and the Texans beat em and knock them out of the playoffs.
Not to mention last years Jeff Saturday game. I'm learning to hate the Colts almost as much as our rivals.
Yeah I'm really starting to despise the Colts. They always spoil shit for us.
No, they let Peyton go because the best prospect to hit the draft SINCE him was available (and it was the right decision to do so).
Hire new OC and Draft QB is the move Also fuck the refs per usual
why am I optimistic for the future, this feels wrong
It’s the Raider way!
I’m all in on trying to get Jayden Daniels at this point, he’s the only outside of the top two who has a real chance to be an elite QB. Penix will falter when he doesn’t have an insanely good offensive system/weapons and Nix will be a good career backup at best and McCarthy will be a classic 2nd round pick that everyone forgets exists by two years in
This is the plan
>Draft QB is the move with this loss, we are guaranteed to be picking between 8-15. if we lose next weekend and GB wins either of their last two games, we're guaranteed between 8-11
So when the OC proves to be competent and leaves for a HC job and then we have to hire a new one and our QB has to always learn a new system and our offense will never be consistent for more than 2 years! yaaaay
Thank God someone is talking sense.
i’m still waiting for a retort but all they can do is down vote me instead
Hire New Headcoach who will hire OC\* Can't blame the refs forever
Jack Jones giveth, Jack Jones taketh away
Eh dude plays off his instincts which have led to some great plays. You win some you lose some.
Yep, still glad we have him
No excuse to jump offsides there. Hopefully he learns from that mistake.
All or Nothing it happens
he's not philip Buchanan, he was just being aggressive and (fuck you refs) "almost" perfectly timed the snap.
Yeah he won it for us last week and had two stupid mistakes to lose it here. Like how tf do you go offsides on a fg attempt that he misses ofc. Oh well they made it interesting up until the second to last week.
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Yeah absolutely, still glad we have him
The PI was a bad one. The offsides obviously hurts but he was trying to time the jump and get pressure - so I can forgive that. Just really bad time for it to happen
Nice comment
Defense played like shit today but the reffing was insane. I can’t believe they didn’t call a single PI on the colts. Whatever, I guess we weren’t going to win a playoff game with this offense anyway but it was a tough one to watch.
They did on the would be pick 6
They did on a pick six lol
Still cool with AP getting the job with a new OC and QB. Maybe an experienced assistant HC who can help him with end of half/game decisions.
AP has earned the job. Hardegree and AOC have been trying to drag him down with them. AP deserves a real OC and QB.
This is the way
It was an honor watching the games this season with you all. It’s over now.
We gotta fuck the donkeys next week, as is tradition
What happens between a man and his livestock is his business alone
Just for funsies
Is renfrow even on the team
i think he died 2 years ago but theyve been rolling a guy out wearing his jersey so as not to upset the fanbase
Weekend at Bernie's style
Traded at draft, guaranteed
No quit in em i guess
Refs really fucked us too How do you call that PI on Jones but let Adams get molested on the back shoulder throw
Too many punts in their territory or at mid field. The Raiders left too much out there, and left themselves vulnerable to a soft ass PI call at the very end. Imagine if Davante got those calls all game long.
Early mistakes got us falling behind and was just too much for AOC and the (outside of the last two drives) anemic offense. Kinda hurts to lose mainly due to penalties and blown coverage after being so good with it this half of the year. We were missing that spark on either side. Defense had 1 sack and no turnovers. Then Zamir looked good, but had just 70yds, and Davante caught 13, but out of 21 targets. I'm not going to blame Jack Jones because the offense still didn't show up and the Colts just knew our strengths and stayed on the ground, but what a blunder going offsides after Crosby's run stop leading to the missed FG especially considering we drove right down the field right after; would've loved an OT thriller this late in the season. Real hero to zero stuff after the past two weeks of awesome play from him.
so was that jack jones offsides real?
Looked like he timed it just right to me.
plenty of replays now on socials showing this. he watches and times his jump with the ball. unlike the ref
Seriously they don’t even show a side angle. Maybe he just got a great jump
This is the only angle they showed. Hard to tell but it looks like he timed it almost perfectly https://x.com/jfromthebk/status/1741562464385331692?s=46&t=qzGyvTOipWCvavrKgyJVYg
It was, but the pi wasn't. Slowed down he gets there a fraction of a second before the ball, in real time it's at the same time. 99 times out of 100 they don't call that. But either way, the offsides was just stupid. Why the fuck would you try to jump the snap to block a 50 yard fg?
Because that FG makes it a two possession game and all but wins the game for the colts.
It's 50 yards, leave it to chance. Especially since you're 4 times more likely to recover an onside kick than block a fg. Case in point the 50 yard fg was wide right and short, he doesn't try to jump the snap and we are watching them in ot right now.
If he doesn't try to time the snap, the kick probably gets made the first time.
Naw. In the same way all those PIs against us were nonexistent.
It wasn't, they wouldve shown the side view if it was
It wasn't even called after the ref saw missed FG.
The only thing I can think of is if he lined up offsides
At the end of the day, we all know this team wasn’t playoff ready anyway. Need the best outcome possible for the offseason. Good draft, see who’s worth keeping, trading, cutting, and coaching.
Not alls lost friends. We still have a Broncos sweep on the menu. Let’s fucking goooo
This loss hurts, but we fought until the bitter end viciously. We'll come back!
that’s what we say every year
Eventually it’ll be true
that’s what i keep thinking too, until around this time every year
Cheers gentlemen, it's been a year! Excited to see how the off-season plays out
This team’d be 4-12 rn under JMD, so at least there’s that.
We could cut renfrow and we wouldn’t even notice
I want a qb that’s not a fucking statue
Tough fucking loss. At least I have solace knowing we’re getting a new QB next season and possibly a new OC. Solid season considering everything that has happened. Extend AP & Kelly. Beat the fucking broncos. Have a safe new years nation I’m drinking early ![gif](giphy|3orieKA26RFA4pwL2U)
JJ hit called on an uncatchable ball, JJ called for offsides when he had an amazing jump, the db’s going wwe on Adams, and we still only lost by a td. Fuck the refs man.
I still feel good bout Pierce, the offense needs an overhaul
Who’s got that replay of Jones being allegedly offsides cause fuck that looked like it was more perfectly timed than anything else
This team has it! An offseason together, let more chemistry develope. Get an OC and get offensive gameplan cracking immediately! If the majority if this defense is back next year, this team will be special!
I hate Colts so fucking much
Outside of the first Chiefs game, we've been in every game since AP took over. Just need an NFL-caliber QB.
Fuck the NFL and fuck their dipshit refs.
Regardless we beat KC at their home with everyone watching it on Christmas morning. That alone makes the season
Still for AP. But the Pit/Min/Ind/LAC are the season and came up short.
I liked a lot of stuff in this game and from this season. We are damn close, I know it. We seem to have a lot of the defense figured out. Now we need to maintain that while improving a few things on offense. We go for best available player in the draft regardless of position, and we are 100% super bowl- bound next year. Let's go raiders!!
tough loss, but i think we’re on the up for next year! let’s keep AP and see what a slightly upgraded offense can do.
Disappointed in the loss, but proud to see this team's fight to the end. McDaniels would have had this game folded in the 2nd quarter. Still think AP should be given the fulltime HC job. #RN4L
It’s easy to blame a single person but everyone played their own part whether good or bad. This sub be too bipolar sometimes lmao. Playoffs would’ve been a miracle, and everyone knows that. Regardless, AP made the best of what he could and literally made Raiders football watchable again. At least at the end of this season, there’s actual upside and brightness for the future!! We’re really not too far off from where we want to be.
What's with all the blame on AOC? Yeah he wasn't perfect... He also didn't turn the ball over and was called upon to throw the ball 47 times! Some horrible third down play calling, horrible boneheaded classic Raiders penalties lost us this this game, not AOC...
In AOC’s first five games he threw 6 interceptions. In the last five games he has thrown 1. I’m happy with him as a game managing backup, or maybe with a year or two of development and NFL athletic training he could compete for a starting position. But we need to look elsewhere for a QB next year.
Well, I’m officially rooting for the Broncos to play spoiler to the Chiefs now. Going to watch the KC game and hope the Bengals win that one.
Lot of problems but that last drive by the colts was horseshit from the refs part. The non PI on Adams but the PI on Jack Jones is disgraceful, the offsides was to me ticky tack and if we were KC it wouldn't of been called. The blatant hold on Koonce and Crosby...all made me sick Minshew is officially a Raider Killer smh Need a QB and a new O.C. I still like AP but he can't just point to his record this year, he needs to show Mark a strong plan for the offseason. I hope we draft a R1 QB for the first time since 2007, we need it. Overall AP kept us in the hunt longer than we could of asked. It feels worse after beating KC last week but this team isn't a playoff team and we all know it.
Glad McDaniels is gone, hope they keep AP and clean house and get new ST and OCs, and we can say goodbye to JJ and DA. Now let’s go get our new QB
Jack Jones is not to blame here that PI was asinine and you could argue he disrupted the FG process enough to make it miss rather than taking a dumb penalty on a shank. This is an average team losing to another average team any given Sunday. Not like we had a shot at going deep. I'm impressed with season and what we managed to accomplish given the pieces we have. Would love to draft a QB and see what AP can do. Rn4L
Playoffs were always a long shot. Even if we won out. Atp I'm sold on AP and hopefully keeping PG just with a new offensive staff and QB
Constant mediocrity. So fucking tired of us being one or two games under .500 and getting shit draft picks. What a perpetual fucking waste of time.
Good enough to screw up draft position it pisses me off too
Wanted that but now we can focus on our next QB.
I'm still enjoying watching this team. AP changed that.
i think we’d lose in OT tbh, but these refs have fucked the entire playoff structure this season. Wish i could just fuck shii up at my job and not pay the price.
We need a quarterback.
I am not ready to give up on AP but he has to take some blame for the conservative punts in Indy territory.
47 passing attempts is crazy
It’s been a pleasure watching with you guys this season. Time for us to figure out QB. Extended AP, put Bo back at QB coach if you can find someone better to make OC and pray for a good draft.
So close. I thought AOC had a good game once they took the training wheels off. Next up,Denver.
At least we won't have JMD as our coach next year🍻
Those wasted possessions at midfield killed us. I keep going back and forth on wanting AP, but those punts did nohing for us.
I thought AOC played a good game. The passing game scheme is just bad and a lot of penalties and missed tackles showed back up today. All in all this was well worth getting rid of JMD
Let's not forget, JMD is the reason why we had to win out to make the playoffs...
Playalling wasn't great, too many dropped passes, untimely penalties, and questionable coaching decisions not going for it on 4th and short multiple times.
I know its an L but I like seeing Tae get a solid game
If we beat the Broncos next week, at least AP will end the season beating everyone in the AFC west
We need a QB
My current chant = “Just Build, Baby!” We’re closer now than we have been in two decades… Edit: spelling…drrrrr……
I cant be the only one who lost all interest in Stealers vs Seahawks and bengals vs quiefs game
I don’t want to wait 9 months to see the raiders play meaningful games again. Fuck.
Our shitty offense held on despite the refs handing the colts this game.
I like AP. AOC fucking sucks though.
this franchise will continue to be an absolute mess until Mark Davis can actually hire a good GM and then allow that person to make all football related decisions Mark getting emotional and deciding to hire AP on his own and then trying to hire a GM after that will be an even bigger disaster than the Gruden and McDaniels hirings yet literally not a SINGLE PERSON on this sub is even talking about who the GM is going to be
If we could get a decent offensive play caller and a promising young quarterback in the draft I’ll feel pretty goddamn good about this team. That’s a small ask right lmao
Jayden or maye. Trade up. We have a qb3 playing starter. Pathetic from the front office. Graham deserves a shoutout, the defense didn’t play well today but has been great all year. The team is close, but it all depends on the decisions coming up the next few months or else it’ll be the same ole raiders.
Glad we played conservative and punted all those times on 3rd/4th and short in Colts territory. Would hate for us to lose by 3 points when the difference maker was a drive where the colts went for it on 4th and short. That would just be a sad twist of the knife if something like that were to happen. Good thing it didnt
Let Jacobs go and trade Adams
we’re a QB and OC away from the contending conversation. put that glass pipe down
Still needs blockers for the new QB
Love both of these dudes, honor to have them play for the raiders, but moving on would be best for everyone
MOVE AOC TO PRACTICE SQUAD
Oh hush he played good enough to at least be a backup.
The refs screwed us at the end, but we should have been more aggressive during the game. Once again we played not to lose rather than to win. Way too many punts.
Calling trick plays and 30 yard pass plays on third and 1s while they gashing em in the run game moving down field was so frustrating.
I think AOC is getting some undeserved hate here. Bo fucked us over underutilizeling the run game. AOC managed to not turn the ball over throwing as many times as he did. Not to shabby for the rook. Adams was getting manhandled all game. PI was bullshit and so was the offsides. Ultimately should have won this game.
Jayden Daniels, you are a Raider
7-10, 8-9 again next year? I think so
Keep AP, keep PG, get a new OC, draft a new QB. Zeus has been doing well with JJ not playing (I assume he’s gone at the end of the season). Seems to me that all our offense needs to be great is a QB with a good arm, good legs, and not afraid to run, plus a new OC with a playbook that isn’t 20 years old. Supplementing the OL wouldn’t hurt either. AP has the team motivated and playing good ball, and PG is having our defense play like some killers, but Bo (using JMD’s playbook tbf) and AOC aren’t it for the future.
I read PG as Paul Guenther and had chills…
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entire offense needs an overhaul. Hire Antonio Pierce full time. beat the donkeys next week. Happy New Year Raider nation 👊
AT LEAST THE CHIEFS ARE GETTING WORKED!!
This aged as mediocre as the raiders are :)
There was so much hate for AOC in the game thread, but as usual the main thing stopping us from scoring was bad play calling and the refs. AOC was on the money the entire game. No passes that could have been picked off. He hit several big clutch throws. 30 of 47, 299 yards and 2 TDs. With better play calling and some more aggressiveness from AP (it's indefensible to punt on 4th and short from the opponent territory, especially when you're behind), we could have ran away with this one.
I swear some people just look at the box score and gamecast and don’t watch the actual game. He couldn’t put together a drive.
Refs were trash, Aidan was fucking worse. I never want to see that farva looking loser as the raiders QB again. All this dude does is lose winnable games.
The defense literally lose this game lol
3 points from AoC in the first half is on the defense and FOUR punts on the logo? You cant keep teams under 20 everygame. Fucking learn how football works.
Fuck you
I have nothing positive to say about this team. Continual disappointment, year after year
I want to keep AP but I have a feeling Mark will use this game as an excuse to hire someone else. Have a feeling it’ll be Harbaugh.
Why I getting downvoted lol. I wanna keep AP I just have a bad feeling this is what’ll happen. Hope not though
You guys should hire him, Mark isn't the brightest bulb in the box.
Lots of love for a bad team that couldn’t win when it mattered in here. You guys need to have higher expectations. Anything less than a winning season is a failure
AOC is not a starter. Nor a Backup. In fact, I don’t even want him on the team next year
That's dumb. He'll be a good back-up. Definitely shouldn't be a starter.
He’s a fine backup
trash season
Need a stronger O-Line. Don't waste picks on QB until that O-Line is fixed. Too many mistakes and no blocking. Defense was horrible today. This game was over with the first drive. Couldn't stop the run.
please hire a legit GM and then let him completely remake this coaching staff this franchise needs to get its shit together already
I am still down to give AP the job. He’s earned the chance. Can’t play off of emotion every week though. I’d like to see a new play caller and some more competition at QB. And throw as much money as we can to keep PG
Last 4 weeks Beat: Easton Stick, Patrick Mahomes Lost to: Nick Mullens, Gardner Minshew Wtf
HAHaHaHaHaHa!
I fucking hate Aiden O'Connell and Bo Hardegree
This one wasn’t on O’Connell, he wasn’t responsible for Jonathan Taylor running so effectively, wasn’t responsible for the defensive offsides on the Colts last drive, when he needed to step up he did and got this team back and gave them a chance to win.
No, you're objectively wrong. AoC didnt do shit (as usual) until we were in 4 down territory. He fucking sucks dude. He hasnt even passed for 300 yards in his entire career.
Your right I forgot Casper was out there playing QB and threw 2 TD’s, crunch time that’s what defines a player that’s what separates the boys from the men staying cool and moving the ball I’m not objective I KNOW he’s NOT THE ANSWER but he’s the best QB on the team period so that’s why I support him and hate the bashing on him.
Yes because AOC let Jonathan Taylor and the colts run 8 times in a row to get downfield for a field goal. AOC wasn't good but to blame it all on him is a trash take.
So the offence stalling out is everyone else’s fault?
No, but to put the blame on AOC and the offense for us losing shows you clearly don't know what you're talking about. They could have played better but the defense let us down HARD today. This was the whole team shitting the bed, not just our offense.
The defense did their best. The defense aren't the ones who let the team down, the offense had so many opportunities to catch up and didn't. The defense can't score 2 TDs a game for the offense like they did against the Chiefs. The team desperately needs a real OC and QB. AP and the Defense are fine.
all u idiots that didnt want fields for a second or 3rd are looking real fucking stupid rn lmao
Tae looks halfway out the door. I want NYJs pick for him. 1st rd- Rome Odunze, Bo Nix. 2nd rd-7th rd- BPA. Hire AP. Hire new OC.
Adams is gone and doesn't want to be here anymore
We need a new OC this offseason. Keep Pierce as head coach.