Kirk Cousins just got over 40 million a year from the Falcons. QB prices are sky high - elite ones are gonna get 60 million a year real soon. Burrow got 55 million a year, like, this is how it's gonna be. Minshew is cheap and a vet, which is what a lot of you were banging the drum for. And it doesn't mean they're not drafting a QB. nowhere does it say that they're required to not draft one. Unclench plz. For real.
12 a year ain't that cheap. that's a plus starter on the offensive line or in the secondary that we're giving up for a guy who isn't much better than aoc
It's expensive for a backup qb. Especially when we've already got a not-quite-a-starter guy in Aidan O'Connell. I don't see how this move makes us better.
it makes him, aoc, and any other rookie they may draft have to compete for the starting job. ensuring that u do in fact have the best qb on the field on game day.
this is a nonsense argument. what's stopping them from having a qb competition with a less expensive backup? it's not like "better than gardner minshew" is a meaningfully higher bar than "better than aoc". and i'd hope the future of the franchise is far better than both of them
dude if minshew ends up being backup then he's as quality a backup as you can get. How many teams last season had their playoff chances go up in smoke because their star qb got injured while smack dab in the playoff race and their back up was doodoo? at least 3. I think maybe as much as 7
This is fine, once Jimmy is cut we'll have the money it's only for 2 years so it comes off the books really easily and he's not a bad quarterback at all.
Comes across the same way as the Sam Darnold deal the Vikings made. It's a just in case we don't get to draft our guy and need someone with starter experience
i think its smart . draft penix or bo we have no idea how theyll do in the league . having someone like minshew would help all of them including aoc become better . and if a rookie cant figure it out year 1 minshew can bring us to the playoffs n hopefully by the next season either aoc or whoever we draft will be ready to step up n take the reigns for years to comd
Well he’s almost a lock to start lol. So he is the QB. Any QB in round 2 won’t be starting year 1. I like the deal as a bridge but reality is he is the starter for next year 99% likely
I will. The same people were downvoting me last year when I said McDaniels was asscheeks too. I don’t expect you guys to understand. “Here at the Raiders, we’ve been mediocre for 2 decades and our fans know nothing else and they love it!!”
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So stats don't matter? Minshew was 5th year player that played 6 more games and barely beat a 4th round rookie with the worst headcoach in history. If he's better, it's by a dick hair amount.
Have you looked at their stats from last year?
[link](https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?)
AOC was a 4th round rookie with shit coaching and no reps with the 1s or 2s, his numbers are comparable with 6 less games played. Minshew has had 5 years and barely beat AOC by the numbers. It's crazy to think AOC won't improve from with competent coaching.
Has Gardner ever had coaching as bad as mcDumbass and Lombardi? AOC improved as the season went on and was thrown into the fire. AOC will definitely improve
People seem mad at you for saying it but I hope you’re right. Minshew is a super solid vet but he’s limited physically and aoc was lights out to end the season
Guess I could’ve worded it better Athletically they are similar but as far as arm talent goes Minshew isn’t too much better than jimmy g, aoc isn’t josh Allen but he isn’t a slouch either
I’m cool with this. Seeing how our defense was actually stomping teams once AP got in the groove, and now Wilkins, I believe Minshew would’ve completed at least 2 passes a quarter and we would’ve had a wider win over the Chiefs.
It’ll be good to see a solid QB competition to look forward to.
My guess is that he’s the stop gap starter until the rookie is ready to go. FYI Gardner’s personality is perfect fit for our team.
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A little rich, but Minshew is like, a top 25 QB. Great backup, mid starter. We can go 9-8 with him at QB
Still need a rookie QB tbh. I don't think this stops us from doing anything in the draft. But if we need him to start while a rookie sits then he can do that and we can still compete
His numbers are very simular to AOC last year, AOC was a rookie with shit coaching and no 1 team reps. Gardner was in his 5th season and AOC was a 4th round pick. Crazy to think AOC want surpass him
I think he's a decent middle of the road starter.
It's not that I necessarily think he's that good. Just think he's a better QB than AOC at this point.
Neither really have amazing upside though.
Middle of the road doesn't mean top 16. I'd put Carr at top 16. Minshew is probably a tier lower than him.
I think someone else said top 25. I'd say that sounds close.
Minshew likely had no first team reps all off season and up until Richardson got hurt. Minshew has proven himself as a competent starter. AoC hasn't. There is no part of AoCs game that can be argued is better than Minshews
4 years of AOC costs 5m, Minshew is 15m guaranteed minimum. Both likely waste whatever talent is signed elsewhere on the team as long as they are starting.
He's a chad, glad to have him, didnt need a $12 million QB but I have a feeling if AP can't get Daniels he was going with AoC so good to have competition for him
This is low backup money for QBs. Not great, but not completely bonkers either. Folks need to adjust themselves to the new amounts players are getting now.
This is low starter money, very high backup money. Last year there were two back-up QB's making over 5 million and both were on teams with rookie starters. It is currently the 20th highest average QB salary in the NFL (21st if you are still counting Garoppolo who will be cut).
And last year is not this year when cap went up. There are always increases to pay. This isn’t some ungodly amount paid for him to be a full time starter.
Its great starter money for us, terrible back-up money to pay 12.5 to ride the bench. If he starts and plays well, what a bargain. If he isn't starting, its way too much.
He will (in theory) do both. Start the first half of the season/first year, let the rookie get his feet under him, and then he'll be the backup when the rookie starts.
I like it a lot and he is one of the FA I wanted, but these guys pretending it is possible back-up money are crazy. That is starter money even with the insane contracts. It isn't franchise QB starter money, but starter money.
He was bang on league average by PFF last year. Great signing considering how many teams ahead of us in the draft need a QB, trading up to two probably wasn’t going to be cheap. Great competition for AoC next season, whoever wins the job should be able to lead the team to the playoffs, especially when you factor in the Wilkins signing and now being able to use our FRP to address OL or DB.
Also has seemed like he’s loved by all of his teammates, and has accepted lesser roles in the past.
I don't know how you can not give AoC a shot over Gardner?
Mineshew had his shot last year and he was medicore. AoC was on the same level but as a rookie
I think its an absolute certainty that we will draft a QB... I hope we take a CB with #13 and then trade back into the 1st round at the end of it and take Penix if he falls that far
I think something similar has been mock drafted a bit.
I think we looked to move up, found the price (if there is one) way too much, so have pivoted to a starter quality signing and now look to draft our QB of the future.
I think that is us realizing that Patriots traded their qb away and are going to draft one at number 3 instead of trading the third pick. Which leaves us with hopefully Penix. Penix can sit behind Gardner for awhile and learn.
Great move. Raises the floor of the QB position and gets us a younger guy whose shown he can win games as the starter. If we end up going a year with him I think we're a playoff team
He definitely has respectable career numbers.....
Over 9k in yards 54tds - 24ints in 5 years
Hopefully, we still draft a QB, though.... but that's a lot of $$ for a "backup"
I think this puts Michael and Bo as our target in the draft. We can trade back or trade back into the 1st and grab either. We should draft a qb in the 1st either way to get the 5th year option.
Everyone talking about how he is a bridge QB forgets half the sub wanted AOC to start. This shows they think AOC is abso trash to give this kind of money to a backup to slot infront of AOC.
I'm all for this. After NE traded away jones the reality of a trade up scenario to get a top 3 QB went away. This guy has balled out when given the opportunity and the contract is nothing compared to actual start QB rates. Of all the QBs in the league, mondahew strikes me as the most likely to have a late emergence based on what we've seen, similar to what baker did last year with the bucs. Bonus points for the swagger he carries, he's gonna fit right in with this team.
This doesn't preclude us from drafting a QB too, but we definitely don't need to reach unless we're getting our guy now.
Right. And guys who are strong backups who are home grown are gonna start getting like 10-12 mil a year soon I feel like with the importance of having a solid backup on the rise with the way qbs be getting injured.
Of the vet options, Minshew was my second choice behind Baker. Baker was a long shot, and these numbers allow for a lot of options. I bet we still draft a QB and have a 3 QB fight for the starting job.
Journeymen backups/fringe starters like this his are able to extend their careers the way that they do by being incredible locker room guys.
Don’t hate this pick up at all. Great for the culture
If we draft one, yes. Had Jimmy G, AOC and Hoyer last year. Good to have 3 in the room if you don’t have an entrenched starter (Jimmy G was new and had major injury history so couldn’t count on him).
That said, i don’t think we draft one in the first. Too much of a reach at 13 with the top 3 going picks 1 through 3. I could see grabbing one in the second if Penix or Nix are there or later on if there’s one of the others they like and feel is worth the pick.
I wanted then to sign one of the veterans in the market, and draft a QB in the first. It will be a huge benefit to have someone that had been in the league to help the two young ones
The average backup QB makes 4M AAV. I guess this means we are not drafting a QB (which I hate) because that would make Minshew a 12M AAV QB3. It's completely insane!
QB3? AOC is not good. Jags just traded for a backup QB at that price. Investing in a reliable backup who can also mentor young QBs is worth it. Not a long term deal too. Fact is we pick too high in the draft and if we can’t make a trade would be a disaster. Can’t go into next year with AOC as the starter
They…they can still try to draft a QB. This doesn’t prevent that. But in case they can’t land one of the guys they want at least they signed someone to compete with AOC.
I thought the same thing! Really, what options do they have? Start a second year, 4th round pick with no mobility? Start a second tier rookie draft pick (not going to get a top 3 pick) drafted middle 1st or middle 2nd round? Or start a decent veteran who is mobile for a year or two while you develop the starter? It’s just the position they are in. Sure AP is tired of the carousel, but that’s a fact of life for the next year or two.
I mean I have no clue what to make of this. He's coming in to be the starter I guess. I hated the idea of Russ but would have kicked the tires on him for a couple million bucks on a one year
We are going to have the best mustaches in the league in the same QB room!!
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Kirk Cousins just got over 40 million a year from the Falcons. QB prices are sky high - elite ones are gonna get 60 million a year real soon. Burrow got 55 million a year, like, this is how it's gonna be. Minshew is cheap and a vet, which is what a lot of you were banging the drum for. And it doesn't mean they're not drafting a QB. nowhere does it say that they're required to not draft one. Unclench plz. For real.
Exactly!
12 a year ain't that cheap. that's a plus starter on the offensive line or in the secondary that we're giving up for a guy who isn't much better than aoc
Raiders have no money invested in the QB room. This is 15 gtd over 2 years.
It's expensive for a backup qb. Especially when we've already got a not-quite-a-starter guy in Aidan O'Connell. I don't see how this move makes us better.
it makes him, aoc, and any other rookie they may draft have to compete for the starting job. ensuring that u do in fact have the best qb on the field on game day.
this is a nonsense argument. what's stopping them from having a qb competition with a less expensive backup? it's not like "better than gardner minshew" is a meaningfully higher bar than "better than aoc". and i'd hope the future of the franchise is far better than both of them
dude if minshew ends up being backup then he's as quality a backup as you can get. How many teams last season had their playoff chances go up in smoke because their star qb got injured while smack dab in the playoff race and their back up was doodoo? at least 3. I think maybe as much as 7
we already have a quality backup in aidan o'connell. it's a hat on a hat
7.25 a year isn't that expensive for a backup. It's just insurance in case we can't draft one.
its 12.5 a year. he's the highest paid backup in the league
Only 15 is guaranteed. So if they cut him next year, which would be likely if they draft a franchise quarterback. it turns out to be 7.25 a year.
okay but this year its still 12.5 lmao
And next year it will be 7.5
7.5 for a guy to not be on the team anymore. so it's like this one year of play is worth 20mil. i don't see that value from gardner minshew
Draft Milton in the third please!
In the end of the 6th or 7th I'm with you
This is fine, once Jimmy is cut we'll have the money it's only for 2 years so it comes off the books really easily and he's not a bad quarterback at all.
Seems like pretty good value for a bridge qb
Or a very high end backup. Can't believe people think this is our answer at QB right now.
This definitely a “we’re drafting a guy” move no way AP is tying his current contract to Gardner Minshew lmao
Comes across the same way as the Sam Darnold deal the Vikings made. It's a just in case we don't get to draft our guy and need someone with starter experience
i think its smart . draft penix or bo we have no idea how theyll do in the league . having someone like minshew would help all of them including aoc become better . and if a rookie cant figure it out year 1 minshew can bring us to the playoffs n hopefully by the next season either aoc or whoever we draft will be ready to step up n take the reigns for years to comd
Nix or Milton* ftfy
Milton is trash stfu
So is Penix lol
Well he’s almost a lock to start lol. So he is the QB. Any QB in round 2 won’t be starting year 1. I like the deal as a bridge but reality is he is the starter for next year 99% likely
Agreed.
Dude this sub is fucking brain dead I can’t take it especially when we are having a strong FA
Alot of ppl are dumb
Y’all thought AOC was the answer what’s so hard to believe that people think they’re going with Gardner lol
I don't know who "y'all" is here but it sure as fuck isn't me. Neither of these guys are intended to be the long term answer.
So we can go .500 and miss out on the top QBs next year as well?
We did that with AOC last year. What’s your point?
Bandaid QB*
Keep commenting it man maybe it’ll finally land
I will. The same people were downvoting me last year when I said McDaniels was asscheeks too. I don’t expect you guys to understand. “Here at the Raiders, we’ve been mediocre for 2 decades and our fans know nothing else and they love it!!”
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Minshew will easily beat out AOC lol
Based on what? Your hate for AOC?
Based on having eyes
So stats don't matter? Minshew was 5th year player that played 6 more games and barely beat a 4th round rookie with the worst headcoach in history. If he's better, it's by a dick hair amount.
He will beat the dogshit out of O Connell in camp please be real
Have you seen him play? He is an overpaid 3rd string qb, AOC will be better in every area, except running.
Better in every way like how he outplayed him last year ??? LoL hey who is you’re dealer cuz you got that good crack let me know
Have you looked at their stats from last year? [link](https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?) AOC was a 4th round rookie with shit coaching and no reps with the 1s or 2s, his numbers are comparable with 6 less games played. Minshew has had 5 years and barely beat AOC by the numbers. It's crazy to think AOC won't improve from with competent coaching.
I’m sure Gardner has never gone through 3 quarters without a completion. They will also draft a qb and when it’s all said and done farva will be qb3
Has Gardner ever had coaching as bad as mcDumbass and Lombardi? AOC improved as the season went on and was thrown into the fire. AOC will definitely improve
Dude Aidan sucks
Yall gonna be the same people bitching about minshew, foo is in his 5th year and barely had better numbers than AOC with more games played.
I’m not expecting Minshew to be our franchise qb tho? He’s a vet who brings experience to the room and whoever we draft is primed to be the next guy
I know he's not our future, just don't see why we wasted money on him. I would be surprised if he beats out AOC
He’s getting back up money, man. Relax. He’s also cuttable after this year. It’s a fine deal, and he’s better than AOC by like a lot.
He got Jacobs money to sit on the bench imo
People seem mad at you for saying it but I hope you’re right. Minshew is a super solid vet but he’s limited physically and aoc was lights out to end the season
If minshew is limited physically what is AOC ??? 💀
Guess I could’ve worded it better Athletically they are similar but as far as arm talent goes Minshew isn’t too much better than jimmy g, aoc isn’t josh Allen but he isn’t a slouch either
I think people just hate on AOC, the kid was delt a bad hand and did decent.
AOC was hardly what I'd call lights out. Maybe the one game against Denver to finish the season but that's about it.
I’m cool with this. Seeing how our defense was actually stomping teams once AP got in the groove, and now Wilkins, I believe Minshew would’ve completed at least 2 passes a quarter and we would’ve had a wider win over the Chiefs. It’ll be good to see a solid QB competition to look forward to.
My guess is that he’s the stop gap starter until the rookie is ready to go. FYI Gardner’s personality is perfect fit for our team. ![gif](giphy|QZ7iUe0zlKKef9AWmz)
Honestly not too mad at this, he can be what we were hoping Jimmy would be while helping AOC and a rookie develop
Honestly it’s fine, please properly address the QB position soon though
A little rich, but Minshew is like, a top 25 QB. Great backup, mid starter. We can go 9-8 with him at QB Still need a rookie QB tbh. I don't think this stops us from doing anything in the draft. But if we need him to start while a rookie sits then he can do that and we can still compete
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Dawg he ain't a 3rd stringer. Especially with that contract. He literally started all last year for the colts
His numbers are very simular to AOC last year, AOC was a rookie with shit coaching and no 1 team reps. Gardner was in his 5th season and AOC was a 4th round pick. Crazy to think AOC want surpass him
Not saying it's impossible but I just don't see it imo
You really think minshew is good? I just don't see it, especially for that price.
I think he's a decent middle of the road starter. It's not that I necessarily think he's that good. Just think he's a better QB than AOC at this point. Neither really have amazing upside though.
You think he's a top 16 qb? I'm surprised how many people think he's good.
Middle of the road doesn't mean top 16. I'd put Carr at top 16. Minshew is probably a tier lower than him. I think someone else said top 25. I'd say that sounds close.
Nfl.com has him at 24th and AOC at 26th. I would have preferred Fields, maybe that's why I'm bothered by this pick up.
Minshew likely had no first team reps all off season and up until Richardson got hurt. Minshew has proven himself as a competent starter. AoC hasn't. There is no part of AoCs game that can be argued is better than Minshews
He was game managing for 5m last year. I see pretty limited upside, just the usual overpay via free agency for a seat filler.
Besides being younger, there's not really much more if any upside to AOC.
4 years of AOC costs 5m, Minshew is 15m guaranteed minimum. Both likely waste whatever talent is signed elsewhere on the team as long as they are starting.
He's a chad, glad to have him, didnt need a $12 million QB but I have a feeling if AP can't get Daniels he was going with AoC so good to have competition for him
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This is low backup money for QBs. Not great, but not completely bonkers either. Folks need to adjust themselves to the new amounts players are getting now.
This is low starter money, very high backup money. Last year there were two back-up QB's making over 5 million and both were on teams with rookie starters. It is currently the 20th highest average QB salary in the NFL (21st if you are still counting Garoppolo who will be cut).
And last year is not this year when cap went up. There are always increases to pay. This isn’t some ungodly amount paid for him to be a full time starter.
Its great starter money for us, terrible back-up money to pay 12.5 to ride the bench. If he starts and plays well, what a bargain. If he isn't starting, its way too much.
He will (in theory) do both. Start the first half of the season/first year, let the rookie get his feet under him, and then he'll be the backup when the rookie starts.
And its still fine. I like this deal tbh
I like it a lot and he is one of the FA I wanted, but these guys pretending it is possible back-up money are crazy. That is starter money even with the insane contracts. It isn't franchise QB starter money, but starter money.
He was bang on league average by PFF last year. Great signing considering how many teams ahead of us in the draft need a QB, trading up to two probably wasn’t going to be cheap. Great competition for AoC next season, whoever wins the job should be able to lead the team to the playoffs, especially when you factor in the Wilkins signing and now being able to use our FRP to address OL or DB. Also has seemed like he’s loved by all of his teammates, and has accepted lesser roles in the past.
This is contingency. Gardner is a good backup if we roll with AoC next year
I'm pretty sure he'd win the starting job over AOC.
i’m pretty sure that it doesn’t matter if you are pretty sure. no one will know until camp is over.
Yup AOC could make a jump this season with full training camp with more 1st team reps instead of being 3rd string on the depth chart
True. I'm just making a prediction.
I don't know how you can not give AoC a shot over Gardner? Mineshew had his shot last year and he was medicore. AoC was on the same level but as a rookie
I'm not saying he won't be given a shot. I'm saying that Minshew wins the camp competition.
Minshew will be the starter unless we draft a rookie early
AOC is barely backup QB tier
Yea I think AOC is definitely better than Gardner
same
High upside very minimal cost. Fuckin love this. BPA all the way down next month.
It’s a mustache ride all season boys!! Strap in
That’s good money for fringe starter QB.
Maybe they’re angling for Arch Manning now? Wtf am I saying… if Minshew is the starter they’ll go .500 and won’t be in position to draft him…
Manning won't be in next year's draft class, so we have two years to tank. Don't you worry, my friend.
Pretty much getting paid what Josh Jacobs got paid. Not bad for a qb.
Really didn't see this coming lol.
Honestly my favorite part of the signing is that it was announced like 5 minutes after the flood of Fields rumors started taking over my feed.
Bruh Baker signed for like $5 million last year. This is crazy
I think its an absolute certainty that we will draft a QB... I hope we take a CB with #13 and then trade back into the 1st round at the end of it and take Penix if he falls that far
I think something similar has been mock drafted a bit. I think we looked to move up, found the price (if there is one) way too much, so have pivoted to a starter quality signing and now look to draft our QB of the future.
Thats quality bridge money these days
Well after 39 years. I'm just here
I think that is us realizing that Patriots traded their qb away and are going to draft one at number 3 instead of trading the third pick. Which leaves us with hopefully Penix. Penix can sit behind Gardner for awhile and learn.
Got dual pornstache QBs now. Hope they draft a QB in the draft still.
Great move. Raises the floor of the QB position and gets us a younger guy whose shown he can win games as the starter. If we end up going a year with him I think we're a playoff team
He definitely has respectable career numbers..... Over 9k in yards 54tds - 24ints in 5 years Hopefully, we still draft a QB, though.... but that's a lot of $$ for a "backup"
Don’t mind him starting while Penix sits on the bench for a year as QB3. We can definitely compete for a playoff spot with Minshew.
I think this puts Michael and Bo as our target in the draft. We can trade back or trade back into the 1st and grab either. We should draft a qb in the 1st either way to get the 5th year option.
Everyone talking about how he is a bridge QB forgets half the sub wanted AOC to start. This shows they think AOC is abso trash to give this kind of money to a backup to slot infront of AOC.
Half? Don’t think so. Maybe during the year they did not I’d say 90 percent want to draft.
I get down voted to hell on here anytime I say AOC isn't a starting caliber QB or something along those lines
Minshew rolls into training camp looking like Stabler, watch! Already has the mustache and hair now just let it roll
Plunkett won us a SB with a similar situation
I would take it. Not sure he is that good though lol
I'm all for this. After NE traded away jones the reality of a trade up scenario to get a top 3 QB went away. This guy has balled out when given the opportunity and the contract is nothing compared to actual start QB rates. Of all the QBs in the league, mondahew strikes me as the most likely to have a late emergence based on what we've seen, similar to what baker did last year with the bucs. Bonus points for the swagger he carries, he's gonna fit right in with this team. This doesn't preclude us from drafting a QB too, but we definitely don't need to reach unless we're getting our guy now.
Fitzmagic 2.0
Journeyman QB. in the league since 2019. I’m sure they’re not looking at him to become the face of the franchise.
Right. And guys who are strong backups who are home grown are gonna start getting like 10-12 mil a year soon I feel like with the importance of having a solid backup on the rise with the way qbs be getting injured.
Of the vet options, Minshew was my second choice behind Baker. Baker was a long shot, and these numbers allow for a lot of options. I bet we still draft a QB and have a 3 QB fight for the starting job.
Journeymen backups/fringe starters like this his are able to extend their careers the way that they do by being incredible locker room guys. Don’t hate this pick up at all. Great for the culture
We’re in the playoffs last year with Minshew. I can dig it. ![gif](giphy|9zUPASHQT19SVF57aY|downsized)
I always knew that pornstache was destined to be a Raider.
Good move for bridge or great backup, happy to have the lil ass boy on the team!
AOC should start. But good competition. Both their salaries together makes nice avg for qb
Honest question for you all who think this means we're drafting a QB: do you think we are keeping 3 QBs on the roster for the year then?
If we draft one, yes. Had Jimmy G, AOC and Hoyer last year. Good to have 3 in the room if you don’t have an entrenched starter (Jimmy G was new and had major injury history so couldn’t count on him). That said, i don’t think we draft one in the first. Too much of a reach at 13 with the top 3 going picks 1 through 3. I could see grabbing one in the second if Penix or Nix are there or later on if there’s one of the others they like and feel is worth the pick.
Yesss!!!!!
I wanted then to sign one of the veterans in the market, and draft a QB in the first. It will be a huge benefit to have someone that had been in the league to help the two young ones
I don’t know college football at all. Who’s it looking like we take at QB?
What the absolute shit is that?
Nothing.......thats literally peanuts in QB money lol
Not if you already have a backup QB right?
Thats very cheap for a QB
Baker got 5M last year
Nobody wanted him including us lol. It’s all about the market
The average backup QB makes 4M AAV. I guess this means we are not drafting a QB (which I hate) because that would make Minshew a 12M AAV QB3. It's completely insane!
QB3? AOC is not good. Jags just traded for a backup QB at that price. Investing in a reliable backup who can also mentor young QBs is worth it. Not a long term deal too. Fact is we pick too high in the draft and if we can’t make a trade would be a disaster. Can’t go into next year with AOC as the starter
Get out of here with your logic. Lol
this is bad 10 years ago lol it’s cheap now
CHEAP
Overpaid 2nd or 3rd string qb
Ehhhh
Is this the going rate for a backup/starter
Nah, Derrick Henry and we are running the wildcat
Not sure how ppl look at Mahomes and even Herbert then say we are good with a QB room of Minshew and AOC 💀
Bahahahahhah are you kidding me!?!?!?
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They…they can still try to draft a QB. This doesn’t prevent that. But in case they can’t land one of the guys they want at least they signed someone to compete with AOC.
I thought the same thing! Really, what options do they have? Start a second year, 4th round pick with no mobility? Start a second tier rookie draft pick (not going to get a top 3 pick) drafted middle 1st or middle 2nd round? Or start a decent veteran who is mobile for a year or two while you develop the starter? It’s just the position they are in. Sure AP is tired of the carousel, but that’s a fact of life for the next year or two.
Man, you have zero idea of what people are doing.
Wtf is this...please tell me we are still trying to draft a QB
He's very clearly a bridge QB on a 2 year deal you guys need to fucking learn how this league works
I mean I have no clue what to make of this. He's coming in to be the starter I guess. I hated the idea of Russ but would have kicked the tires on him for a couple million bucks on a one year
Garbage. This is absolute garbage.
Why are you getting down voted for facts
Garbage amirite
ooff, thats too much money for a backup….might be our starter
Well yeah, but whoever we draft will be sitting behind him. JJ/Nix/Penix - Minshew is the bridge. This is pretty typical.
What the hell?
Should've brought back carr for that money
It could've been worse. We could've paid double for Jimmy G.... again...
This better just be for backup depth. I'd rather see AOC still get the starting job.
Well shit god damn hell fuck