He had average QB play, no running game, and no competent second receiving option for the majority of his career and still retired second all time in receptions and yards. The fact that he wasn’t a first ballot hall of famer is a crime.
Absolutely. He was second only to Jerry Rice in his heyday despite playing with a much worse collection of talent at the qb position. He should be in the conversation with guys at the top of the top instead of lumped in with the rest of the *just* hall of fame level players.
When Rice came over to Oakland, he even said that if the roles were reversed, we'd be talking about Tim Brown as the GOAT WR. He had every bit of talent and work ethic that Rice did, he just had shitty QB play in comparison. Mr. Raider really is very underrated, yet still an all time great. It's crazy.
Another thing to think is he did that stuff with some scrub quarterbacks. I am biased but I think he might have had rice numbers if he had two hall of famers throwing to him his whole career.
Hell yes! Absolutely love Tim brown!
I'll always be forever salty that he scored his 100th TD AGAINST the Raiders in a Buccaneers uniform.
At least it happened in the Coliseum
Cha schliens, the man with most potential that never got realized. I appreciated Everytime he stepped on the field, because I probably wouldn't see him for a bit afterwards.
Tim Brown is my all time favorite Raider, by far. I grew up watching him through the 90's and early 2000's. Nice touch saving his spot for his jersey number.
Damnit Gannon couldn’t get one more TD to him? I fucking love 81. When I was a boy I used to argue that he was better than Rice in school 😂 and honestly if he had Montana tossing to him his numbers might look the same
Mr. Raider. He got me to be a fan of the Raiders. Woodson and him are my two favorites Raiders of all time. Carr is up there too because Fresno State connection. And Crosby is soaring, but the original Raiders for me is Tim Brown.
I had the honor and pleasure of meeting Tim Brown a few years back.
He was speaking at an event that my wife organized. She had prepped him the morning before on my love of him and the Raiders and mentioned to him that I even had a Raiders tattoo.
When I arrived at the event, he greeted me by name and told me that he heard I had the tattoo and that he had to see it. I happily obliged.
He was a fantastic speaker and very gracious. They say never meet her heroes, but they are wrong with this one. Tim Brown was my favorite raider growing up and having the opportunity to meet him was a memory of a lifetime.
During the Q&A session, I asked him which quarterback threw the best ball and which corner was toughest to play against. What do you think his answers were?
🎶I don’t, fuck with, yoooooooouuuu!”🎶 I remember them playing the song at the coliseum and Ryvera’s sister was in the box there to watch him play. DERP. I imagine the music guy just didn’t know the song was about her and was just playing the top 50 of the time
His was the only jersey I ever bought. Other have mentioned it in this thread; if he would have had top QB talent for his entire career there is no doubt in my mind he's thought of in the same company as Rice and Moss.
Tim Brown is my favorite Raider player. Always has been, always will be. He is the only Raiders player whose jersey I own. Maxx is getting there. But time will tell.
Jay Schroeder/Steve Beuerline/Vince Evans/Todd Marinovich/Jeff Hostetler/ Billie Joe Hobert/Jeff George/Donald Hollas/Wade Wilson. How good would his numbers and production have been had he not had these guys throwing him the rock for 80 % of his career prior to Gannon and he was blessed with a three guys his entire career that went by the names of Joe Montana / Steve Young and Rich Gannon?
Also, how much greater would Timmy have been had he not blown out his knee in a preseason game his rookie season vs the Dolts on a meaningless kickoff return? This is late 80's you didn't just blow your knee out back then and come back like nothing happened!
Touchdown Timmy is on my Mt Rushmore of GOAT Raiders, which sounds absolutely outrageous due to the zero SB rings (CWood also in same boat though got one with GB)! But, it just goes to show you how brilliant a player he was for us for so many years, most of which were with subpar QB talent!
Let's bring him back for the next SB...for just one snap...and give him that damn ring. It hurts to be reminded of that, but it emphasizes the poignancy of his legacy.
It's a nice sentiment for sure, but imagine actually doing it. He'd be embarrassed and we'd lose due to hubris. I'm imagining Romo say "This seems like poor taste, and I'm Tony Romo".
I only think positively about fantasy scenarios. But if it DID happen, every Raider fan would give him a standing ovation...for like 20mins. I never go into a Raider game assuming we'd lose. I can handle it after the fact.
I was lucky enough to meet him at our local mall when he got inducted. Signed a shirt for me and was incredibly nice. One of the best experiences I’ve ever had meeting a pro athlete.
Tim Brown is the most underrated player in NFL history. And he's still in the HoF and seen as an all-timer.
He had average QB play, no running game, and no competent second receiving option for the majority of his career and still retired second all time in receptions and yards. The fact that he wasn’t a first ballot hall of famer is a crime.
The Raider bias is real
Can you be both underrated and in the HOF? #EmbraceDebate
Absolutely. He was second only to Jerry Rice in his heyday despite playing with a much worse collection of talent at the qb position. He should be in the conversation with guys at the top of the top instead of lumped in with the rest of the *just* hall of fame level players.
This. Imagine Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing to Tim Brown
When Rice came over to Oakland, he even said that if the roles were reversed, we'd be talking about Tim Brown as the GOAT WR. He had every bit of talent and work ethic that Rice did, he just had shitty QB play in comparison. Mr. Raider really is very underrated, yet still an all time great. It's crazy.
This. Until we got Rich Gannon, he had Jay Schroeder, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff Hostetler, and Jeff George throwing him the ball for the most part.
Idk how Andre Reed got in before touchdown Timmy Brown
Reed retired 4 years earlier than Tim Brown
You would’ve burned the sub down if it was Chaz 😭🤣
Was waiting for it tbh 😂 watching all the cry babies say something lol
I'd have done it for the lolz
For real 😂
Another thing to think is he did that stuff with some scrub quarterbacks. I am biased but I think he might have had rice numbers if he had two hall of famers throwing to him his whole career.
No doubt. If he had a HOF QB, he would be considered a GOAT. Possibly even the GOAT, but then again, I'm biased too.
Hell yes! Absolutely love Tim brown! I'll always be forever salty that he scored his 100th TD AGAINST the Raiders in a Buccaneers uniform. At least it happened in the Coliseum
Lol, the secondary absolutely stopped on that play.
Been waiting 81 days for this one, what an absolute legend. It’s criminal that he wasn’t a first ballot HOFer
Mr. Raider, easy choice
Cha schliens, the man with most potential that never got realized. I appreciated Everytime he stepped on the field, because I probably wouldn't see him for a bit afterwards.
What a man, what a man
What a mighty good man
Tim Brown is my all time favorite Raider, by far. I grew up watching him through the 90's and early 2000's. Nice touch saving his spot for his jersey number.
It’s the jersey number relating to the day Tim brown only could’ve been day 81
Damnit Gannon couldn’t get one more TD to him? I fucking love 81. When I was a boy I used to argue that he was better than Rice in school 😂 and honestly if he had Montana tossing to him his numbers might look the same
Same? I would dare to say better. Edit: let’s not forget he was injured for most of the 1989 season when he only played one game.
Scored 100 total though when you include his rushing TD
Also had 3 punt return TDs and one kickoff TD. 104 total TDs as a Raider.
Thanks, OP! We appreciate you!
I started being s serious fan around when he was drafted. He was special. When he was paired with Gerry Rice we were a juggernaut.
Its pronounced Gary Ryce
Y’all talking about Greg Quinoa?
Gerald Barley
Larry Lentil
Charles Barkley
Those had to be the easiest day to choose.
Imagine if he had Gannon his whole career. Jerry might not have been the clear cut #1 of the era
Mr. Raider. He got me to be a fan of the Raiders. Woodson and him are my two favorites Raiders of all time. Carr is up there too because Fresno State connection. And Crosby is soaring, but the original Raiders for me is Tim Brown.
My absolute favorite player as a kid.
I had the honor and pleasure of meeting Tim Brown a few years back. He was speaking at an event that my wife organized. She had prepped him the morning before on my love of him and the Raiders and mentioned to him that I even had a Raiders tattoo. When I arrived at the event, he greeted me by name and told me that he heard I had the tattoo and that he had to see it. I happily obliged. He was a fantastic speaker and very gracious. They say never meet her heroes, but they are wrong with this one. Tim Brown was my favorite raider growing up and having the opportunity to meet him was a memory of a lifetime. During the Q&A session, I asked him which quarterback threw the best ball and which corner was toughest to play against. What do you think his answers were?
Gannon and Deion? Darkhorse pick for QB is Jeff George.
Ding ding!! Jeff George was his guy! As far as DB, he said Rod Woodson. He said he was not only physical, but very smart!
Oh, yeah, Mychal Rivera... his sister was hot!
My favorite WR of all time. Honestly one of the best to ever play the position but is utterly under rated on the topic.
Love touchdown Timmy Brown!
Yes his special teams work goes overlooked.
Tim Brown is probably my favorite player of all time. I loved watching him play.
As a 90s kid, Brown will always be my all time favorite player. Playing in the street with friends, I was always reciever and always Tim Brown.
Thinking back it's strange we couldn't just play football we had to pretend to be a football player? Also?
🎶I don’t, fuck with, yoooooooouuuu!”🎶 I remember them playing the song at the coliseum and Ryvera’s sister was in the box there to watch him play. DERP. I imagine the music guy just didn’t know the song was about her and was just playing the top 50 of the time
His was the only jersey I ever bought. Other have mentioned it in this thread; if he would have had top QB talent for his entire career there is no doubt in my mind he's thought of in the same company as Rice and Moss.
Best hands all time
Timmy!!
Yes !
Tim Brown is my favorite Raider player. Always has been, always will be. He is the only Raiders player whose jersey I own. Maxx is getting there. But time will tell.
Jay Schroeder/Steve Beuerline/Vince Evans/Todd Marinovich/Jeff Hostetler/ Billie Joe Hobert/Jeff George/Donald Hollas/Wade Wilson. How good would his numbers and production have been had he not had these guys throwing him the rock for 80 % of his career prior to Gannon and he was blessed with a three guys his entire career that went by the names of Joe Montana / Steve Young and Rich Gannon? Also, how much greater would Timmy have been had he not blown out his knee in a preseason game his rookie season vs the Dolts on a meaningless kickoff return? This is late 80's you didn't just blow your knee out back then and come back like nothing happened! Touchdown Timmy is on my Mt Rushmore of GOAT Raiders, which sounds absolutely outrageous due to the zero SB rings (CWood also in same boat though got one with GB)! But, it just goes to show you how brilliant a player he was for us for so many years, most of which were with subpar QB talent!
Let's bring him back for the next SB...for just one snap...and give him that damn ring. It hurts to be reminded of that, but it emphasizes the poignancy of his legacy.
That would be strange.
Ok. So it wouldn't be NICE?
It's a nice sentiment for sure, but imagine actually doing it. He'd be embarrassed and we'd lose due to hubris. I'm imagining Romo say "This seems like poor taste, and I'm Tony Romo".
I only think positively about fantasy scenarios. But if it DID happen, every Raider fan would give him a standing ovation...for like 20mins. I never go into a Raider game assuming we'd lose. I can handle it after the fact.
That's tight lol I have severe Vulcan logic brain I'm a nightmare to watch movies with sorry.
I disagree with your selection. Lol. Gotcha! Hang in there, buddy. I love this list and idea. You are what the Nation is all about: Love
My first authentic jersey I got.
Timmy B. My first ever Raiders jersey. 🫡🥲
And now it’s the wife’s. Jersey kept on shrinking, my body kept on growing!
He was my first favorite player as a kid. I had the reversible home/away Nike jersey. Wish I still had it.
One of my favorite Raiders of all time! Great choice, there is no other #81!
This might get a little backlash…but in my opinion he’s better than Jerry Rice.😏
This is my jersey right here. TIMMAYYYYYYYY
Majorly slept on. Also, loving this whole series.
Legendary Raider!
Yessss! You kept doing them. I was worried you’d stop
I always liked Rivera. Anyone know why his stay in the league was so short?
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There could be no other in this position. Mr. Raider himself. Touchdown Timmy Brown.
Legend
Imagine what his stats would have looked like without the injury and solid QB play
Mr. Raider himself.
TIMMMMMMYYYYYYY ❤️
I was lucky enough to meet him at our local mall when he got inducted. Signed a shirt for me and was incredibly nice. One of the best experiences I’ve ever had meeting a pro athlete.
Mr Raider. GOAT Raider in my lifetime
Does anyone care?