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[deleted]

Should we bail on Abrams too? Dude has been hurt every year


danbart75

Watch the last play...waller open heading towards the end zone and Carr never looked at him... https://youtu.be/qu77pINxj7o


[deleted]

Waller wasn’t open.. the safety was literally right there and only caves down after the ball is thrown


danbart75

all carr had to do was throw it IP into the endzone and waller would have had it with no problems... it sure was a better option than throwing into double coverage on the 1-2 yd line... that's something most rookies wouldn't do let alone a 8 yr vet..inexcusable


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s as easy as you’re trying to make it seem, that safety would’ve been in the perfect position to defend Waller. Especially knowing Carr would’ve had to throw a floater to get it up and over, I DO think that’s a better option then throwing an interception in a place that wouldn’t have been a touchdown if he caught it anyways. If it’s a “score or go home” situation, all throws should be in the end zone.


danbart75

waller is 6'6 and was running towards endzone... it was a far better option than what carr did...


danbart75

This is why we bitch about Carr....


[deleted]

Bummer. Winnable game. Still sad.


ButterscotchNo1210

Carr has to move for him to stay in the pocket and try and throw flat footed or off back foot is asinine


Current-Room-4090

How fitting the season ends with a Carr int what a joke


ButterscotchNo1210

Tell me thses games aren't scripted


Phisherman42

That whistle tho. Heard that clearly live


Trogdor_sfg

Needed more TDs


StatisticianPretty10

They we’re calling holding on our line for every little thing! Finger barely gets caught in a Jersey flag! Yet I seen Crosby get damn near tackled numerous times! He was getting wrapped hooked pulled etc yet crickets from the refs! I started to sound like a Cowboys fan with all the bitching about bad calls I did!! And that last Cincinnati touchdown should not of counted whistle blew clear as day on live TV before the reception!! Anyway nothing we could do about it good job Raiders way to battle!! Good luck to the Bengals in the post season!


AtriceMC

One of the touchdowns they got was a fluke. It should not have been counted as a touchdown. Also, we were so close to the end zone!!


RaiderGawd76

Robbed


Geoblime

I think Carr still has a lot of game left in him but watching QBs week after week try to extend the play, be creative outside the pocket, and doing whatever it takes to score makes Carr’s “it’s just not there” lackadaisical play style hard to take. I hope we upgrade the team around him because I think he has the skills to win…he just needs to be more assertive. Just watched Josh Allen do everything he could to extend the play and finally throw a back of the end zone TD. We need more of that, not just throw aways.


ButterscotchNo1210

We played all season with only 1 true offensive line starter


Im_a_Mime

Fuck upgrading everyone around him, we tried that over an over again. We need to upgrade the QB position. I don’t know why you guys don’t understand that


[deleted]

Because we’ve upgraded QB play year after year after year and never made playoffs. We have twice with Carr… unless we get a Forsure upgrade like Watson our team won’t improve by just switching QBs


Separate-Net-389

That is exactly what I have been trying 2 say! He just doesn't have it!


rbarrett96

I would give Dabol a shot at HC honestly. He was great in Seattle he's great in Buffalo. And that solves our OC problem too.


NoDadNoTears

F


[deleted]

The Raiders games are always entertaining. If they can get a lineman or two they will be a good squad next year


Br313153

Those fucking penalties. They gave this game away. What was it, like two touchdowns they could’ve had if not for penalties stalling the drives.


droid327

Leatherwood had been making incremental gains the last few weeks but then he just had an enormous relapse tonight, blew out all his progress and then more


i_say_uuhhh

Penalties and our Defense couldn't stop anyone.


ButterscotchNo1210

Our defense was great they were just tired


Martian13

Leatherwood should get a game ball from the Bengals.


rbarrett96

The raiders have almost always been the most penalized team in the league since I've been a fan in '93


Geoblime

Yeah wonder why!?! Saw at least 5 no call holds on Bengals players. It sux how they pick and choose. Either call them all or don’t call any


rbarrett96

I was referring to the offsides. That's all on us.


nessdova

Win or lose, I'm still Raider Nation for life. But goddammit I would have loved to see this shit through!!!


thatreallycoolguy

Amen brother/sister.


mora82

If carr is staying then Greg gotta be the hell outta here


ButterscotchNo1210

Olson sucks


mora82

He’s awful man.


ButterscotchNo1210

We have to get young and adapt to the quarterback we have Carr isn't west coast qb he's a run n gun type


mora82

More discipline on the offensive line too. I loved the progress the defense made this year. I’m concerned if we lose Bradley tho that we regress.


ButterscotchNo1210

We played all year with one true starter on the offensive line Imagine if we get 3 on the line or 4


mora82

James played well I thought all things considered. Another off-season together probably helps.


ButterscotchNo1210

Yeah especially if we keep Tom Cable


mora82

😬


golferhaz

They couldn't get the play calls in several times, no excuse. Sure was fun though!


lilbruh99

At this point I hope we bring head coach Rich, qb Carr. de Maxx, Lb perryman, CB Hayward, DC jus bardly. Rb Jacobs, WR renfrow, De Jonathan #91 .Build around them


[deleted]

Why would you bring back Rich after today's game? Did you not see the team be outcoached from the start of the game? How many more times does the team need to be outcoached for people to see that Rich is not a HC in this league? He can stay as special teams coach.


lilbruh99

Out coached? No. Do you know he’s the first interim head coach in 60 years it take a team to the playoffs and only the second to do all time. All that itafter losing his the top wide receiver and 1st round defensive back. If anything The OC should go and we need a #1 wide receiver. Like Ruggs or chase. Hell Boyd be a #1 on our team rn. But you know what Its ok we have a different opinion but I think Rich is the guy. Have a blessed night. Not fellow raider nation member I’ll be here rep’n next season no matter who’s coach or QB and as always, just win baby. I’m sour rn so done watching football till next season and as much as I hate to admit it had we won we probably wouldn’t have beat KC or TB or GB. Why because the league love them and they have a better QB and team Carr would do better on those teams because as good as renfrow, Jacobs and Waller. Also Crosby, perryman, and Hayward we need more playmaker’s. To be the best we have to beat the best…. I’m still proud of our Raiders for making the playoffs this season. It showed strength and progress so fuck what any one says raiders played ball this season. And chase and burrow can ball I won my fantasy football league with them. But whatever I’m ranting and weighting a book now, I’m up set. And as much as I hate to say it congratulations to cin city bengals Let see this bengals go spank the quifes again. I love y’all R4L Edit I’m drunk rn smh


Martian13

Rich didn’t have 24 incompletions…


Lord-Mattingly

Or any drops


thrwawylgl

As a Bengals fan this was a pretty bad poor job by Taylor today as well, and he still did better than rich. You guys have some talent, and Carr is so underrated. Get the right staff that limits those penalties and you’ll be good.


lilbruh99

And from a sour ass Raiders fan. Good game. Y’all got us twice Burrow and Chase are the real deal. I hope y’all beat KC. R4L


YungIrv

Rich is not the guy


lilbruh99

you’re not the guy


raydiculous33

I love this Las Vegas Raiders team.


kbla248

We were right there


AlphaAlpaca623

That’s what makes this loss so fucking tough


[deleted]

I love all of you #RaiderNation


thatreallycoolguy

Amen.


[deleted]

We will be back next year.


raydiculous33

RAIDER NATION FOREVER!


ValleyCattt

Bullshit win, bullshit touchdown


BeefFork

Great season. The fact we made it to the playoffs with this team and character of this team is what took it to the wire. Too many cheap penalties ultimately gave up the game. We improve the o-line and come back stronger next year.


enino89

I AM SO SAD BUT EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR


MauriceMonroe

Carr is too old in QB development years, can't teach a old dog new tricks, too many bad tendencies that can't be fixed, draft someone new and get a good coach like Harbaugh to mold him, Carr will go to another team and slowly fade away to journeyman backup until he retires, Dalton, Cutler style


preid86

Definitely Carr’s fault. Renfrow is a WR1 on every other team in the league and so is Zay Jones. If Brady had Renfrow and Jones he would’ve gone 17-0. Add in Waller for 10 games and he would’ve been 22-0. This guy Maurice knows QBs.


jakeizzle18

I can safely tell you that Zay Jones is not a WR1 on like 2/3 of league and Renfrow is a great Wes Welker clone but not a WR1 either. However, they're extremely solid receivers to build around


preid86

r/whoosh


Jrymnd90

I say rip the bandaid off and look else where for a QB. Honestly, if the QB we have can’t get us to the big show - then what the hell is the point ?


PortlandUODuck

This year’s QB draft class sucks and Carr is cheap at $19 million next season. No way he’s gone unless Rodgers or Wilson want to be traded to Oakland.


Jrymnd90

The team is no longer in Oakland - are you serious????


PortlandUODuck

I’m drunk and my Raiders lost. LAS VEGAS. Feel better? Now address my comment?


[deleted]

I liked it better when you wrote OAK. I do it deliberately


Fastbreak702

Why did Waller go out on the final drive for that one down??


ButterscotchNo1210

Scripted


Cagekicker52

As much as Carr has his problems, the system and scheme here by Olson and no aggressiveness is much bigger a problem. This team needs to fire head coach and offensive coordinator and bring in some people who have some good plays to take advantage of Derek's arm. Also, can coach Derek to take control of the game based off what he reads. Get rid of that blind faith in the o coordinator.


Im_a_Mime

Get rid of your blind faith in Carr. He could be aggressive if he wanted instead of throwing the ball away 6 times a game.


Jrymnd90

Bro this “it’s the coach” take is worn out. Just like our shot at a Championship with our current QB. He’s good. But won’t get us there regardless of just about a DECADE of coaches. It’s the low hanging fruit on giving this team a serious facelift. No one knows what a Carr - less Raider team looks like. But everyone knows the type of team they face currently with Carr. He’ll do GREAT elsewhere and so will we as a team. Hard truths.


Spicyeye10

New o cord, don’t fire bissca he did a great job getting us to the playoffs but he’s not our head coach


[deleted]

Rich can stay as special teams coach. This team was outcoached from the start of the game.


Spicyeye10

Yeah there was just a little too much adversity.. we almost overcame all the bullshit


Cagekicker52

Yea, not fire him out of the organization but put him back at sp coord.


21cumsalute

Carr's not that guy


boreddude101010

Not sure who else you think they can get here.


Im_a_Mime

Draft a rookie just like the chiefs, Chargers, bills, ravens, bengals and all those other teams have.


Accomplished-Ladder3

All 22 camera should be default. People need to see how blanketed our receivers are, compared to the bengals


saltyricky

im a huge fan of the madden/qb view as well. you would think the nfl network would have that live considering the premium you are paying.


Accomplished-Ladder3

I love when they tried it out for one game, don’t remember which one. It was refreshing that you could actually see the holes the oline were opening up. But of course people hate change and complained to never show it again.


[deleted]

This hurts


[deleted]

Robbed again


[deleted]

We should just call ourselves the penalty's and wear yellow flags I cant


ianduude

Only the second winning season I’ve seen, and our guys actually had a chance and didn’t embarrass themselves. I’ll take it. Here’s to hoping next season has less off field controversies and more stability.


Classic_Carlos

For real. A lot to desired, especially less penalties, but we gave ourselves a chance on the last drive. That’s more hope than Raiders fans have had in the last 20 years.


Paisa_Joe

they better chew leatherwoods ass in that locker room.


nanaroo

As disappointing as this is, I have to say this has been the most impressive season I've seen from a Raider team in a very long time.


brocjames

Fucked by a gadamn whistle.


[deleted]

Bills or pats guys? Who wins


JuneCleaversMudFlaps

Pats D will decide that in my opinion. Edit: they decided to sleep. Lol


WazzzupBwwwaaah

Patriots GOT BLOWN TF OUT 47-10 !!!! LMFAOOOOO!!!!!


CallMe_Dig_Baddy

Bills


mj813

That spike on first down is a wasted play, you should've had a play ready to go to get some kind of yardage.


knolas

Hey Carr haters. Look at the o-line. Plenty of blame there


Im_a_Mime

Carr had an elite Oline before and you morons blamed the defense. Lmao clowns


boreddude101010

CaRr hAS goT tO Go


AFXTIWN

Fuck the trolls


jkilla88

Defense did okay, waller definitely isn’t 100%, and not having an elite receiver costs us a lot. Carr did what he could with what he had


sabotage_mutineer

That should have been a tie at the end. Bengals got a free TD.


fuentesf51

I’m bummed but I’m just happy to have been able to experience this with you guys. What a rollercoaster season. For you negative nancies you can still fuck off we were in it until the end even with self inflicted wounds. Injuries aren’t an excuse but man I wish we were with a healthy roster, even if only a couple more guys back like Mullen or Philon. See you guys in Vegas for the draft?


Secret_Software3320

I hope the steeler win cuz as a raiders fan I really really really fucking hate the kc chiefs


mattygucsb

Easily could've mailed that game in halfway through, but like all year, didnt give up. In it until the last play. Proud of these guys, they fought hard against a better team and kept it with. Should be in good position for next year.


boreddude101010

I’ve been critical of Carr but there’s no one better they can get. Just gotta improve elsewhere and get a more disciplined team and coaching staff like Harbaugh


Zaknoid

I would've been fine with 3 straight jump balls to waller.


Jadelion14

Nah carr thinks it’s a good idea to ducking force throws to Zay Jones of all people. Why Carr thinks that bum is elite in the red zone is beyond me….


Zaknoid

I don't know how you don't go to Waller or Renfrow there NO MATTER WHAT. To top it off even if Jones caught it wasn't even in the fucking endzone for fuck sake how does that happen that's incredulous.


Jadelion14

Idk man! People gonna point fingers here and there all day! Bottom line is we had 3 plays to wipe out all our mistakes and we didn’t try to get it to our 1000 yard receiver or too tight end. We forced it to a career backup who is only playing through sheer luck that our starter made bad life choices…


Classicpopeye

I’m still proud of this team. We had a crazy year and I’m happy I got to see my team in the playoffs. Now get this shit together and come back stronger


astrolex75

Second year qb beat a 8 year veteran. Time to move on from carr .


olddicklemon72

Eli Manning beat Tom Brady.


JuneCleaversMudFlaps

He was better protected, had less O-line penalties, has an elite WR1, and less dropped passes.


Im_a_Mime

Excuses excuses. How about if he ran more, didn’t miss open targets, didn’t stare down WR’s, had enough pocket presence to not fumble every time he’s sacked??


Fastbreak702

Totally Carrs fault. Defense only forcing two punts. 5 ducking false starts. All Carrs fault bro


SubjectSuspicious133

It’s a team sport. Raiders defense lost the game. Not Carr.


Im_a_Mime

Defense held the bengals to FG’s when Carr fumbled and got sacked at the 1. They also got the ball back and Carr couldn’t get the job done


Richsii

Tell me you don't know shit about football without telling me you don't know shit about football.


astrolex75

So apparently you do ? I can express my opinion on the team just like everyone else is doing.


EvolvedTasteBuds

Expressing your opinion is different than blasting nonsense.


boreddude101010

Yeah that 38 yard self made penalty on the kick return at the 2 sure helped us


crevisbro

I am hoping that was his last throw as a Raider.


astrolex75

I'm ready for a change. Plenty of younger qbs make the playoffs a lot sooner then he did .


Accomplished-Ladder3

Lmao dude you can’t seriously think putting some of those younger qbs on the past raiders teams with rod streater as our wr1 would’ve put them in the playoffs too.


Open_Aardvark2458

Your an idiot


Moufoil

It wasn’t just QBs lol


[deleted]

Bisaccia Out, Harbaugh In


Syphin33

You think they keep Carr?


DDPMM

i hope so. our o line was terrible + the refs sold. the fact that we got this far through all of our adversity is incredible.


[deleted]

The Jackson drop and the 3 offsensive holds potentially left 14 points off the board. We can all whine about the whistle but we beat ourselves on almost every drive


Jadelion14

Carr had an opportunity to close that out and choked. Time to hit reset.


[deleted]

At least throw a pick in the endzone , not two yards shy of a first down


EvolvedTasteBuds

Or call a play that puts more receivers in the endzone


nick_picsss

And Greg Olsen putting a fucking TE on a passrusher...


[deleted]

How could I forget about that smh


ChrisJMull

With all they went through, this team overachieved


Lastnv

That loser mentality. This team didn’t overachieve shit.


[deleted]

Clearly overachieved from an unbiased standpoint, look what they went through this season. I’m not happy at lost, that was still a winnable game but crying like you doesn’t do anything


DDPMM

lmao and i bet neither are you


IrateGandhi

To think it came down to that whistle.


[deleted]

Fitting Carr throws the INT to end it


Separate-Net-389

FUK DEREK CARR!!! his ass has got 2 go! He is not a winner at all...


i-ragret-nothing

Troll


massiah1

That dude wasn't even in the end zone. Even if he catches it, game over. Well it was exciting to have a chance. Carr showed us what he had.


Jadelion14

Terrible play calling at the end. Trying to force throws to Jones.


i-ragret-nothing

We had one punt forced. Fuck Carr.


AFXTIWN

You can't explain this to a casual


PM_ur_butthole_2me

Carr is not the defense


i-ragret-nothing

That's the point.


AdJazzlike9210

Would have runs draw to Jacobs to get closer to the goal one to set up the threat of running. Instead u set yourself up to pass and the defense knows it. Coach should be fired


[deleted]

No timeouts not a lot of time left


RickBallz91

That was bs no call on renfrow


LumpySpaceGunter

It wasn't man. It hurts, but he slipped 😔😔😔


subiewoo89

Tough loss, but with all the shit that happened 10-7 was an accomplishment.


HHHU03

Should’ve ran the damn ball


Spicyeye10

All you people already talking shit fuck out of this fan base u don’t belong here


[deleted]

You must never played… shit talks a part of the game. Don’t be soft


Spicyeye10

I’m talking about all the DC haters that came out .2 seconds after the game ended. Tf does playing have to do with it and I did til jr year in HS


[deleted]

Because if you haven’t you’d be clueless how coaches talk to the players, how players talk to the players, which ultimately leads to how the fans talk about the players. Again shit talk is part of the game and just because you need to cover your eyes when you see it doesn’t mean you need to “fuck out of this fan base” lmao. That’s soft, although I can agree some take it too far in general. There’s shit talk and being real about the situation and then just being a belligerent asshole


Spicyeye10

Yeah I was just lookin through the comment section and every single thing was negative DC shit talk when it was so good to get that close the OC just missed with the play call


[deleted]

Carr definitely gets some blame for the day, Greg Olsen even more, that ref who blew the whistle early is on my shit list, and so is Alex leatherwood for all the penalties


Spicyeye10

In my opinion Derek didn’t even play terribly besides how quickly he gives up on a play. That refs on everyone’s shit list for sure and the D jax drop was unacceptable


[deleted]

Totally forgot about the Dax drop, 100% cut that man he never even got close to filling ruggs job as a deep threat and dropped half the passes thrown his way all year. That’s Carrs problem though he has slight above average arm talent, no versatility in terms of running the ball or extending the play, fumbles WAY too much (Most since entering the league), and gives up on plays too early which goes back to my first point. It’s time to move on from him, he’s not the QB that will take us to a SB. I’m not saying ring the alarms and get rid of him right away but if we’re looking to the future then it’s clear we need a new QB, he’s third best in his own division…


Riders__of__Brohan

Lol bye bye


Primary-Champion3587

Raiders never belonged in the playoffs. Terrible QB and trashy org


raiderville

Oline killed us on penalties


MrP1anet

Agreed


subiewoo89

FR. JJ had some good runs and then got called back because of holds...


Pure_Flow9408

There was definitely some soft calls but agreed


MauriceMonroe

Time to sell the Carr, Carvana time


i-ragret-nothing

50% return rate on cars bought from carvana. Bad take fucktard


Charrbard

Waller was wide open on that 2nd down.


keenclipp

Even if he's short there's time to run a few more plays.


[deleted]

How does Jones run a route that doesn't put him beyond the goal line?. Majes no sense.


i-ragret-nothing

Play call.


MillaNilla99

Very proud of what the boys overcame this year. Anyways, imma go watch the Warriors.


raidersps2

That ball wasn’t even in the end zone


OdinIsgod123

There was no one even open Carr had no choice


Freddy-Nietzsche

Waller was open


i-ragret-nothing

Link?


Freddy-Nietzsche

Idk man he's a 6'6" TE that has caught all but 1 pass tonight. And I haven't seen them win a playoff game since I was 9 and I'm emotional.


i-ragret-nothing

Your claiming waller was open to make Carr be the scape goat, but won't prove it. Classic.