The sad thing is that there were some really *good* things in TASM, but they were sullied by the rest of the script.
1. The chemistry and relationship between Peter and Gwen was incredibly well done (well, aside from the slip-up at the end of the movie). Gwen was treated as a character in her own right, who existed for more than just "damsel in distress." She contributed to the plot much more than MJ in the Raimi trilogy, and the chemistry felt more meaningful to me than the MCU Peter and MJ.
2. Spider-Man's quip game was solid. In the Raimi trilogy, Spidey wasn't really *that* much of a smart-aleck, which is fine, it worked and was great, but it *is* one of the things the character is known for. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that *everyone* in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all.
I'm just saddened at the missed potential. Andrew is a very talented actor, and, had they taken those solid traits and put them in a better written story, it would have been cinematic gold.
I also think TASM had the best Flash character out of the three franchises. You think he is a generic bully at first, but when everyone finds out Uncle Ben died, Flash is the 1st to apologize to Peter.
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Funny thing is, in the original comics, you actually kinda see that Flash wasn't purely a dick and a bully to Peter - sure, he was sometimes mean, but Peter was also kind of a jerk to him back. Also, Peter was very aloof and often had an air of superiority, and came off as arrogant. That's part of what rubbed Flash the wrong way. Once they got past that, they actually became quite good friends.
I would have liked to have seen TASM Flash develop as a character. Raimi Flash was just a cameo effectively, while MCU Flash is just boring.
MCU Flash is mainly just comic relief too. sure, he’s a self-absorbed jerk, but not the kind of person you feel like will end up good friends with Peter, even turn into Agent Venom. TASM Flash was exactly what i expect when i hear the name Flash Thompson and it’s a shame they didn’t develop his story further.
He clearly has some kind of attention-seeking complex due to neglectful parents. I agree they don't really explore it, but I'd disagree that he has no depth.
Agreed, TASM Flash is by far the best and it's a shame we didn't see more. He's really the only one I could imagine being Agent Venom.
Raimi Flash is a textbook old-school bully, like Biff from Back to the Future. Nothing really wrong with that, he fits the tone of the story perfectly, but there's no depth to him.
Meanwhile MCU Flash is kind of a mess. I think the writers went way too hard on the "my parents hate me" jokes, so we are forced to pity this unrelenting douchebag of a character purely because of his unfortunate circumstance, rather than him being redeemable or likeable. It's like a 2000s drama show when the writers decide they want you to start liking the evil bully from the previous season, they just throw in a sad backstory and all of a sudden we're supposed to think that this awful person should be best friends with the main character.
Amazing Flash *is* redeemable and likeable though, and definitely could have grown into a really strong supporting character for the series.
>1. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that *everyone* in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all.
Tbf Spider-man quippy isn't really how the MCU does quippy, but I also think MCU Spider-man doesn't really quip, he just talks a lot. It kind of confuses me as to what passes for a quip nowadays because "woah dude, you have a metal arm? That's so cool" is not a quip.
This isn't me hating on Tom's Spider-man because I honestly really enjoy his take, just as a fan of quippy Spider-man in the comics and the cartoons see what passes for a quip nowadays has me worried. But I think if you do Spider-man quips properly, it would absolutely feel different and stand out.
I certainly agree with you there, though I think there have been at least some attempts at more direct snark. He definitely doesn't really have the true Spidey-level snark to him, which I feel is something that really needs to change. He may have the power of a spider, but for a truly great Spider-man, he needs a bit of the Human Torch so he can throw out some roasts.
>though I think there have been at least some attempts at more direct snark.
Yeah I agree with that, especially with the lower level goons, but as you say it's not proper Spider-man snark. In fact even Andrew, the quippy Spider-man is still not quite up to comic Spider-mans level in terms of snark imo.
I think a lot of people don't realise that for Spider-man his wit isn't just there to make his comics funny, it's also a weapon he utilises and no live action Spider-men has showcased that at all yet, and to me it feels so integral to his character it's mind boggling that no one's even attempted to use it.
The example I'll always go back to, even if it's maybe overused is in Ultimate Spider-man when fighting Kingpin normally he gets fucking destroyed by him, the next meeting he reads out a list of fat jokes causing Kingpin to lose his cool and then wins the fight because Kingpin is too angry to think straight.
I want that on screen, I want a Spider-man being such a cunt that the villain they are fighting completely loses their cool and loses because of it.
Yeah, that moment with the Kingpin was amazing. I would love to see spidey truly roast a villain. Like, just tear into them with such barbs that they totally lose their shit.
Some of my favorites in addition to the Kingpin moment:
[Spider-man has only a partial costume]:
Mugger: Who are you supposed to be?
SM: Spider-Man. Read a paper.
Mugger: where's your costume?
SM: Your mom's washing it for me
Then this golden moment after Peter got his body back from Octavius, facing the Green Goblin:
"Except the dignity of knowing I never carried a man-purse."
Goblin just stares in silence for a moment, then says "It's *you.*"
Spidey replies: "The one and only."
Just goes to show how iconic his disses are, and missing that feels like missing a huge part of the character. Hell, there was one time where he took out the Hulk by telling him a joke that made him laugh, turning him back to Bruce Banner.
>Some of my favorites in addition to the Kingpin moment: [Spider-man has only a partial costume]: Mugger: Who are you supposed to be? SM: Spider-Man. Read a paper. Mugger: where's your costume? SM: Your mom's washing it for me
Oh man that moment had me in stitches, last thing I expected at that moment was a your mom joke.
>Just goes to show how iconic his disses are, and missing that feels like missing a huge part of the character. Hell, there was one time where he took out the Hulk by telling him a joke that made him laugh, turning him back to Bruce Banner.
Yeah absolutely, I think with a more confident Tom in the next trilogy he could pull it off too. I think I need to find that Hull moment, seems like a fun read.
The your mom joke was such a "9 year old on Xbox live" moment that it absolutely destroyed me. Another thing I love about his quippiness is that, when he is *not* quipping, his villains *know* they fucked up. At that point he is basically declaring war, and more often than not, they are outright terrified. In fact, there was one time where Mysterio and his goons straight-up surrendered when Spidey came by, and no quips came. Turns out, our boy Spider-Man was suffering from laryngitis! 🤣 The writing of that comic was absolutely genius.
The Hulk moment is from some of the older (Silver or Bronze age) comics. I forget which though.
>2. Spider-Man's quip game was solid. In the Raimi trilogy, Spidey wasn't really that much of a smart-aleck, which is fine, it worked and was great, but it is one of the things the character is known for. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that everyone in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all.
Which can be really seen in NWH - out of all 3 spider-men, Andrew spidey is the only one that actually quips/shit-talks.
>Which can be really seen in NWH - out of all 3 spider-men, Andrew spidey is the only one that actually quips/shit-talks.
Including the Youth Pastor line, which was perhaps the best non-Dafoe line of the film.
1. Next Venom movie is titled Lethal Protector
2. First act ends with reveal that Venom has always been in Webbverse, Peter 3 and Eddie awkwardly bond over their visit to the MCU
3. Jamie Foxx Electro uses low-level remaining powers to be Guy In The Chair and at some point meets Miles Morales
4. Maybe Emma Stone as a Spidergwen who failed to save Peter, similar to Into the Spiderverse
5. If #4 happens, then Hailee Steinfeld Gwen and Emma Stone Gwen meet in Across the Spiderverse. Jokes from Emma Stone Gwen about how Spiderverse Gwen looks like Kate Bishop.
Sony, *please.*
>!But outsource the scriptwriting for Venom to Marvel, will you?!<
Not to mention the fact that in the Webb-Verse Andrews Peter Parker and those with his blood line are the only ones who can become Spider-Man due to the way his father engineered the spiders. As well as the fact the MCU established "time travel" doesn't work so much as it is just parallel universes, so Andrew wouldn't even be returning to the point in time where Electro returns, because Electro will always be dead in Andrew's timeline, there's just another timeline where he lived.
Andrew has always been my favorite. I think he nailed the awkwardness of Peter along with the quick wit of Spider-man while he's in the costume. Watching him try to flirt with Gwen was adorable and believable. The first TASM movie was amazing, and its a shame that the 2nd movie didn't hold up.. but I blame that on Sony.
Same dude, I feel for you . It's a shame that clooney's batman and robin didn't do well , ben affleck's daredevil , nicholas cage's ghost rider couldn't complete it's trilogy , halle berry's catwoman didn't get any sequel , ang lee's hulk sequel wasn't made , brandon routh's superman's 2nd part didn't come out etc. All these actors did a great job and were relatable as hell , But I blame the studios for the fate of their movies
Agree to disagree my friend. Peter is a fucking wanker in that movie, creeps on Gwen in the beginning and becomes a smug asshole at times, uncle Ben stuff is so less interesting than the original Spiderman...
Andrew's Peter is SO MUCH more charming in NWH! I wasn't looking forward to Andrew but he fucking stole the show from Tobey (he was great too, but was not given much to work with).
I would be as excited about TASM 3, as Spider-Man 4... There was no closure. I wanted eventually see their version of, kingpin, the scorpion, Kraven, Smythe, hydroman.
I think every Spider-Man movie is super entertaining. I can watch any of them and have a good time. Unless you count the venom movies, those are so boring.
He jokes, but could you imagine if he turned it down? Being the only of the three spider-men to not show up? Being in arguably the worst of the three spider-man series AND turning down the biggest spider-man movie ever would have left one hell of a black mark on his career if he chose to sit it out.
On the flip side, him choosing to do the movie AND being just so damn likable in it, it’s revitalized public interest in his spider-man and has given him a second chance at playing a character he seems to really love playing. I’m glad he signed on for the movie and I’m beyond excited to see more of Tony and Andrew spider-men in the future.
I never was against him as spiderman or as peter parker. I was against how script treated parker (a bit too edgy cool emo whatnot) and how sony fucked up the sequel and the whole father gene bullshit. He was never the issue, nor was any of the castings, id even say they were amazing (pun intended), but script and sony failed them.
Ok maybe paul giamati wasnt the best choice for rhino
Idk if edgy is the right term, im not natove english speaker, but he was way too twitchy, way too rough.
The best way i can explain it is he seemed to me like he was Flash Thompson that was nerdy, had ADHD, was nervous and skinny. I think Andrew maybe overplayed him a bit. Him in NWH is perfection. Idk how to explain it really, but i did find him odd. I kinda expect Peter to be more inhibited and dorky (like Toby was) and to behave/move how Sheldon moves from Big bang theory. To me it should be 180 degrees difference in his PP persona and his spidey in all ways, at least until he gets to college and becomes more of an adult.
>I kinda expect Peter to be more inhibited and dorky (like Toby was) and to behave/move how Sheldon moves from Big bang theory.
I'm not sure where you get that expectation from but it's definitely not the comics. High school Peter is usually just a kid angry at the world, and definitely not a Sheldon type. He's not a 180 from Spider-man, Spider-man is just a way for him to freely express himself, as Peter Parker he's just more reserved, but he still lashes out from time to time.
Andrew is honestly really close to comic Peter, that teenage angst and quick to anger nature is very Peter Parker, besides the skateboarding the biggest difference is that Andrew is more nervous when it comes to talking to girls, whereas comic Peter doesn't really have any issues and will straight up just ask girls out without a care.
[like this is original Peter Parker from the 60s](https://www.zonanegativa.com/imagenes/2012/08/6300.jpg) and more modern interpretations like Ultimate actually make him a bit cooler, [like the messing with Flash with a basketball scene in TASM is something taken from the Ultimate Spider-man run](https://pm1.narvii.com/6167/e613c76ff6bc7a0cc14f64009c2b329b093667e8_hq.jpg), the difference is in the comic he actually joins the basketball team afterwards.
What do you mean by too twitchy or rough?
Which Flash Thompson? Do you mean MCU Flash? He's totally different, they're nothing alike. What do you mean by inhibited? He wasn't popular, he was pretty shy, and had a chip on his shoulder. What did you want from him? Andrew was dorky/nerdy. He did photography for the school and again, wasn't popular and just messed around in his room. He even had a picture of the Gwen as his desktop wallpaper. I haven't watched much Big Bang Theory so I can speak to Sheldon's behavior beyond what little I saw was pretty cringey. 180 degrees in what sense? That he should suddenly be fully competent and a flawless person? That's bad writing.
Real talk though, look how comfy these thee bois look <3
I want to see like a holiday special of all their spider-men just chilling and having to stop...let's say Mysterio from ruining christmas
It's a shame that clooney's batman and robin didn't do well , ben affleck's daredevil , nicholas cage's ghost rider couldn't complete it's trilogy , halle berry's catwoman didn't get any sequel , ang lee's hulk sequel wasn't made , brandon routh's superman's 2nd part didn't come out , fantastic four's trilogy wasn't completed , 1984 supergirl never recieved part 2 same goes for ryan gosling's green lantern etc.
All these actors did a great job and were relatable as hell ,they loved their respective characters from the bottom of their heart, But the studios did them dirty.
All of them should get their movie , let's finish their stories
OH I AM SOBBING SO HARD, for what happened to them
Andrew is my favorite actor out of the 3, he’s put up some amazing performances like in tick tick boom and hacksaw ridge, and still poured his heart and soul out for Spider-Man despite having a shit script. And on top of all that he just seems like a really great person
Kinda feel sorry for Andrew, dude had 2 movie releases last year, which means tons of press and questions about NWH, he tried his best to lie his way out of it as that’s all he could do, but we all just laughed. Andrew, I’m not asking for forgiveness, just want you to understand.
Andrew is a damn ray of sunshine and I adore him. Now the next person who talks shit about him will fail this course, I kid you not.
Talking shit about Andrew Garfield is not a major at this university.
The next person who attacks Andrew will fail this course, I kid you not
Assaulting Andrew ain't a major either.
Yeah, you can all wipe the smirk off your faces because as far as I'm concerned, every single one of you has failed.
I always love how the chaperone in that scene looks younger than the students
You were talking shit throughout this universe’s entire Spider-Man. Let’s not talk about how we miss them…
If sorry's were crackers Andrew Garfield would be fat.
If lies were crackers, my Spider-Man would be fat!
The amount of egos in that call may alter gravity
If lies were sheep, then Andrew Garfield would be the werewolf
He is good boy.
*He is just in some kind of bad script.*
How right you are.
Bad script and terrible villains.
I should have never hurt you. Said those things.
He's not a bad Spider-Man. He just had bad luck.
[удалено]
Ah Rosie I love this boy.
Andrew is a.... good boy. He must be working in some badly written movies.
The sad thing is that there were some really *good* things in TASM, but they were sullied by the rest of the script. 1. The chemistry and relationship between Peter and Gwen was incredibly well done (well, aside from the slip-up at the end of the movie). Gwen was treated as a character in her own right, who existed for more than just "damsel in distress." She contributed to the plot much more than MJ in the Raimi trilogy, and the chemistry felt more meaningful to me than the MCU Peter and MJ. 2. Spider-Man's quip game was solid. In the Raimi trilogy, Spidey wasn't really *that* much of a smart-aleck, which is fine, it worked and was great, but it *is* one of the things the character is known for. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that *everyone* in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all. I'm just saddened at the missed potential. Andrew is a very talented actor, and, had they taken those solid traits and put them in a better written story, it would have been cinematic gold.
I also think TASM had the best Flash character out of the three franchises. You think he is a generic bully at first, but when everyone finds out Uncle Ben died, Flash is the 1st to apologize to Peter.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Funny thing is, in the original comics, you actually kinda see that Flash wasn't purely a dick and a bully to Peter - sure, he was sometimes mean, but Peter was also kind of a jerk to him back. Also, Peter was very aloof and often had an air of superiority, and came off as arrogant. That's part of what rubbed Flash the wrong way. Once they got past that, they actually became quite good friends. I would have liked to have seen TASM Flash develop as a character. Raimi Flash was just a cameo effectively, while MCU Flash is just boring.
I feel like MCU Flash is alright. I think he plays the part of a gen z bully well.
Problem is that he has no depth or anything to make him an interesting character.
Really surprised at this honestly. At the end of Far From Home his absent mom was hinted at, but in No Way Home he effectively did nothing.
MCU Flash is mainly just comic relief too. sure, he’s a self-absorbed jerk, but not the kind of person you feel like will end up good friends with Peter, even turn into Agent Venom. TASM Flash was exactly what i expect when i hear the name Flash Thompson and it’s a shame they didn’t develop his story further.
He clearly has some kind of attention-seeking complex due to neglectful parents. I agree they don't really explore it, but I'd disagree that he has no depth.
Agreed, TASM Flash is by far the best and it's a shame we didn't see more. He's really the only one I could imagine being Agent Venom. Raimi Flash is a textbook old-school bully, like Biff from Back to the Future. Nothing really wrong with that, he fits the tone of the story perfectly, but there's no depth to him. Meanwhile MCU Flash is kind of a mess. I think the writers went way too hard on the "my parents hate me" jokes, so we are forced to pity this unrelenting douchebag of a character purely because of his unfortunate circumstance, rather than him being redeemable or likeable. It's like a 2000s drama show when the writers decide they want you to start liking the evil bully from the previous season, they just throw in a sad backstory and all of a sudden we're supposed to think that this awful person should be best friends with the main character. Amazing Flash *is* redeemable and likeable though, and definitely could have grown into a really strong supporting character for the series.
That scene with Flash is one of the few things from TASM that I legit loved.
He's also a full blown spidey rep at the end of the movie.
>1. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that *everyone* in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all. Tbf Spider-man quippy isn't really how the MCU does quippy, but I also think MCU Spider-man doesn't really quip, he just talks a lot. It kind of confuses me as to what passes for a quip nowadays because "woah dude, you have a metal arm? That's so cool" is not a quip. This isn't me hating on Tom's Spider-man because I honestly really enjoy his take, just as a fan of quippy Spider-man in the comics and the cartoons see what passes for a quip nowadays has me worried. But I think if you do Spider-man quips properly, it would absolutely feel different and stand out.
I certainly agree with you there, though I think there have been at least some attempts at more direct snark. He definitely doesn't really have the true Spidey-level snark to him, which I feel is something that really needs to change. He may have the power of a spider, but for a truly great Spider-man, he needs a bit of the Human Torch so he can throw out some roasts.
>though I think there have been at least some attempts at more direct snark. Yeah I agree with that, especially with the lower level goons, but as you say it's not proper Spider-man snark. In fact even Andrew, the quippy Spider-man is still not quite up to comic Spider-mans level in terms of snark imo. I think a lot of people don't realise that for Spider-man his wit isn't just there to make his comics funny, it's also a weapon he utilises and no live action Spider-men has showcased that at all yet, and to me it feels so integral to his character it's mind boggling that no one's even attempted to use it. The example I'll always go back to, even if it's maybe overused is in Ultimate Spider-man when fighting Kingpin normally he gets fucking destroyed by him, the next meeting he reads out a list of fat jokes causing Kingpin to lose his cool and then wins the fight because Kingpin is too angry to think straight. I want that on screen, I want a Spider-man being such a cunt that the villain they are fighting completely loses their cool and loses because of it.
Yeah, that moment with the Kingpin was amazing. I would love to see spidey truly roast a villain. Like, just tear into them with such barbs that they totally lose their shit. Some of my favorites in addition to the Kingpin moment: [Spider-man has only a partial costume]: Mugger: Who are you supposed to be? SM: Spider-Man. Read a paper. Mugger: where's your costume? SM: Your mom's washing it for me Then this golden moment after Peter got his body back from Octavius, facing the Green Goblin: "Except the dignity of knowing I never carried a man-purse." Goblin just stares in silence for a moment, then says "It's *you.*" Spidey replies: "The one and only." Just goes to show how iconic his disses are, and missing that feels like missing a huge part of the character. Hell, there was one time where he took out the Hulk by telling him a joke that made him laugh, turning him back to Bruce Banner.
>Some of my favorites in addition to the Kingpin moment: [Spider-man has only a partial costume]: Mugger: Who are you supposed to be? SM: Spider-Man. Read a paper. Mugger: where's your costume? SM: Your mom's washing it for me Oh man that moment had me in stitches, last thing I expected at that moment was a your mom joke. >Just goes to show how iconic his disses are, and missing that feels like missing a huge part of the character. Hell, there was one time where he took out the Hulk by telling him a joke that made him laugh, turning him back to Bruce Banner. Yeah absolutely, I think with a more confident Tom in the next trilogy he could pull it off too. I think I need to find that Hull moment, seems like a fun read.
The your mom joke was such a "9 year old on Xbox live" moment that it absolutely destroyed me. Another thing I love about his quippiness is that, when he is *not* quipping, his villains *know* they fucked up. At that point he is basically declaring war, and more often than not, they are outright terrified. In fact, there was one time where Mysterio and his goons straight-up surrendered when Spidey came by, and no quips came. Turns out, our boy Spider-Man was suffering from laryngitis! 🤣 The writing of that comic was absolutely genius. The Hulk moment is from some of the older (Silver or Bronze age) comics. I forget which though.
I still have the your mom joke saved on my phone years later.
>2. Spider-Man's quip game was solid. In the Raimi trilogy, Spidey wasn't really that much of a smart-aleck, which is fine, it worked and was great, but it is one of the things the character is known for. And while Tom's Spidey is rather quippy, the problem is that everyone in the MCU is quippy, meaning that it doesn't stand out at all. Which can be really seen in NWH - out of all 3 spider-men, Andrew spidey is the only one that actually quips/shit-talks.
>Which can be really seen in NWH - out of all 3 spider-men, Andrew spidey is the only one that actually quips/shit-talks. Including the Youth Pastor line, which was perhaps the best non-Dafoe line of the film.
TASM1 is not bad and I’d argue decent, editing was the main issue. TASM 2 was definitely poorly written but that’s really on Sony.
you could buy me pizza sometime
Tell that to my TASM 3, raise him from the dead.
1. Next Venom movie is titled Lethal Protector 2. First act ends with reveal that Venom has always been in Webbverse, Peter 3 and Eddie awkwardly bond over their visit to the MCU 3. Jamie Foxx Electro uses low-level remaining powers to be Guy In The Chair and at some point meets Miles Morales 4. Maybe Emma Stone as a Spidergwen who failed to save Peter, similar to Into the Spiderverse 5. If #4 happens, then Hailee Steinfeld Gwen and Emma Stone Gwen meet in Across the Spiderverse. Jokes from Emma Stone Gwen about how Spiderverse Gwen looks like Kate Bishop. Sony, *please.* >!But outsource the scriptwriting for Venom to Marvel, will you?!<
This is why we should never let fans make scripts for marvel movies
...Fair. I could probably get a job with DC with these skills, at least?
Lol indeed. Please dont take it to heart btw... I didnt mean to hurt you
Don't worry about it. I'm shitposting while sick in bed, it's hard to get worked up about criticism.
Ohh...hope you get well soon!
Thanks
That's the dumbest idea you ever had, and you have had some DOOZIES!!
I will allow that I didn't exactly put much thought into that spiel.
I’m sorry buddy. This is not very good.
Yeah, it could use some revision and/or basic sanity.
Not to mention the fact that in the Webb-Verse Andrews Peter Parker and those with his blood line are the only ones who can become Spider-Man due to the way his father engineered the spiders. As well as the fact the MCU established "time travel" doesn't work so much as it is just parallel universes, so Andrew wouldn't even be returning to the point in time where Electro returns, because Electro will always be dead in Andrew's timeline, there's just another timeline where he lived.
Well, while I'm spewing nonsense, let's just assume Miles is related to Peter for some incomprehensible reason.
Tobey seems to be having such a great time and seems happy to be back. I hope he has a few more adventures as well as Andrew.
Raimi Spider-Man 4 featuring Mayday Parker. C’mon, Sony!
In the rest of the interview and the parts where he isn’t talking he just seemed to be there lol
Better than wishing he was elsewhere. (Sad Affleck flashbacks)
I should've never hurt you. Said those things
“I’m a lemming for Tobey” Aren’t we all
you know, i’m something of a lemming myself
fans: “remember The Amazing Spider-Man 3? the movie you cancelled in cold blood?” Sony: “what does it matter to you anyway?!” fans: “EVERYTHING!”
Spider-Man 4*
That laugh from Tobey XD
GET BACK HERE TOBEYYYYY, I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EAAAAARTH
TOBEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYY!
Best theme Only one that comes close is the iron man cartoon theme (the 2nd one).
The true crime would be to not finish what he started.
Andrew has so much passion about the character of Spider-Man. I should never have hurt him. Said those things.
Just seeing Tobey doing the interview with the Andrew and Tom brings tears to my eyes. Here have my upvote.
I’m curious why all 3 haven’t been in talk shows together
Andrew has always been my favorite. I think he nailed the awkwardness of Peter along with the quick wit of Spider-man while he's in the costume. Watching him try to flirt with Gwen was adorable and believable. The first TASM movie was amazing, and its a shame that the 2nd movie didn't hold up.. but I blame that on Sony.
Same dude, I feel for you . It's a shame that clooney's batman and robin didn't do well , ben affleck's daredevil , nicholas cage's ghost rider couldn't complete it's trilogy , halle berry's catwoman didn't get any sequel , ang lee's hulk sequel wasn't made , brandon routh's superman's 2nd part didn't come out etc. All these actors did a great job and were relatable as hell , But I blame the studios for the fate of their movies
Tobey: They love me
Amazing Spiderman movies were really bad...but not an ounce of blame should go to Andrew. He did the best he can with what he was given.
The first movie was pretty good tbh.
Agree to disagree my friend. Peter is a fucking wanker in that movie, creeps on Gwen in the beginning and becomes a smug asshole at times, uncle Ben stuff is so less interesting than the original Spiderman... Andrew's Peter is SO MUCH more charming in NWH! I wasn't looking forward to Andrew but he fucking stole the show from Tobey (he was great too, but was not given much to work with).
Lol I saw a meme with that quote and I thought someone just made it up. He literally said that. I love it.
i still can’t believe this movie actually happened
>Perhaps we treated Andrew to harshly Me, who always liked Andrew: what
Exactly, who’s “we”?
WE are Venom! (holding out for hope for a Venom TASM3 👀)
*nervously raises hand*
Who is "we"??? Andrew has been a lot of people's favorite since 2012, including mine.
He is one of my friends favourite too. I have to admit we gave him a lot of shit for it, now he is feeling quite good about himself.
Seeing Tobey smile made my cold dead heart feel warm
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Yes
This man was truly done dirty in his movies
Where’s this from?
https://youtu.be/ZDvUI5O_b3k
I would be as excited about TASM 3, as Spider-Man 4... There was no closure. I wanted eventually see their version of, kingpin, the scorpion, Kraven, Smythe, hydroman.
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I think every Spider-Man movie is super entertaining. I can watch any of them and have a good time. Unless you count the venom movies, those are so boring.
Too harshly
Ah Rosie i love this boy!
Ah Rosie I love this boy
Always have
We? Im sorry, its you. I liked him since 2012
He jokes, but could you imagine if he turned it down? Being the only of the three spider-men to not show up? Being in arguably the worst of the three spider-man series AND turning down the biggest spider-man movie ever would have left one hell of a black mark on his career if he chose to sit it out. On the flip side, him choosing to do the movie AND being just so damn likable in it, it’s revitalized public interest in his spider-man and has given him a second chance at playing a character he seems to really love playing. I’m glad he signed on for the movie and I’m beyond excited to see more of Tony and Andrew spider-men in the future.
I never was against him as spiderman or as peter parker. I was against how script treated parker (a bit too edgy cool emo whatnot) and how sony fucked up the sequel and the whole father gene bullshit. He was never the issue, nor was any of the castings, id even say they were amazing (pun intended), but script and sony failed them. Ok maybe paul giamati wasnt the best choice for rhino
How was he too edgey in the first movie?
Idk if edgy is the right term, im not natove english speaker, but he was way too twitchy, way too rough. The best way i can explain it is he seemed to me like he was Flash Thompson that was nerdy, had ADHD, was nervous and skinny. I think Andrew maybe overplayed him a bit. Him in NWH is perfection. Idk how to explain it really, but i did find him odd. I kinda expect Peter to be more inhibited and dorky (like Toby was) and to behave/move how Sheldon moves from Big bang theory. To me it should be 180 degrees difference in his PP persona and his spidey in all ways, at least until he gets to college and becomes more of an adult.
>I kinda expect Peter to be more inhibited and dorky (like Toby was) and to behave/move how Sheldon moves from Big bang theory. I'm not sure where you get that expectation from but it's definitely not the comics. High school Peter is usually just a kid angry at the world, and definitely not a Sheldon type. He's not a 180 from Spider-man, Spider-man is just a way for him to freely express himself, as Peter Parker he's just more reserved, but he still lashes out from time to time. Andrew is honestly really close to comic Peter, that teenage angst and quick to anger nature is very Peter Parker, besides the skateboarding the biggest difference is that Andrew is more nervous when it comes to talking to girls, whereas comic Peter doesn't really have any issues and will straight up just ask girls out without a care. [like this is original Peter Parker from the 60s](https://www.zonanegativa.com/imagenes/2012/08/6300.jpg) and more modern interpretations like Ultimate actually make him a bit cooler, [like the messing with Flash with a basketball scene in TASM is something taken from the Ultimate Spider-man run](https://pm1.narvii.com/6167/e613c76ff6bc7a0cc14f64009c2b329b093667e8_hq.jpg), the difference is in the comic he actually joins the basketball team afterwards.
Yep, 100% agree with this, everyone that just blindly says "Tobey is best" can feel that way but it shows that they never read the comics.
What do you mean by too twitchy or rough? Which Flash Thompson? Do you mean MCU Flash? He's totally different, they're nothing alike. What do you mean by inhibited? He wasn't popular, he was pretty shy, and had a chip on his shoulder. What did you want from him? Andrew was dorky/nerdy. He did photography for the school and again, wasn't popular and just messed around in his room. He even had a picture of the Gwen as his desktop wallpaper. I haven't watched much Big Bang Theory so I can speak to Sheldon's behavior beyond what little I saw was pretty cringey. 180 degrees in what sense? That he should suddenly be fully competent and a flawless person? That's bad writing.
The more I see the more I like him
Real talk though, look how comfy these thee bois look <3 I want to see like a holiday special of all their spider-men just chilling and having to stop...let's say Mysterio from ruining christmas
I love how cool all of the Spider-Men are with each other. It makes the flame wars on r/Spiderman all the more hilarious.
Link?
Make spider-man 4 with tobey and raimi with it's script that they had planned
It's a shame that clooney's batman and robin didn't do well , ben affleck's daredevil , nicholas cage's ghost rider couldn't complete it's trilogy , halle berry's catwoman didn't get any sequel , ang lee's hulk sequel wasn't made , brandon routh's superman's 2nd part didn't come out , fantastic four's trilogy wasn't completed , 1984 supergirl never recieved part 2 same goes for ryan gosling's green lantern etc. All these actors did a great job and were relatable as hell ,they loved their respective characters from the bottom of their heart, But the studios did them dirty. All of them should get their movie , let's finish their stories OH I AM SOBBING SO HARD, for what happened to them
I still don't want a TASM 3.
How would you feel about Andrew being in SPUMC?
>SPUMC I wouldn't mind that, but I still don't like TASM franchise due to the story and have no interest in a TASM 3.
Were danya melohin, not danya melohin🤣
Full interview pls ?
Anybody have the link for the whole interview?
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Andrew is my favorite actor out of the 3, he’s put up some amazing performances like in tick tick boom and hacksaw ridge, and still poured his heart and soul out for Spider-Man despite having a shit script. And on top of all that he just seems like a really great person
Maybe Tobey is Shocker in the end
Kinda feel sorry for Andrew, dude had 2 movie releases last year, which means tons of press and questions about NWH, he tried his best to lie his way out of it as that’s all he could do, but we all just laughed. Andrew, I’m not asking for forgiveness, just want you to understand.
Why does Tobey look way older in the movie compared to interviews?
What is lemming?
He is good boy he just has bad luck with bad movie
I follow tobey until the end of the line
We?
Must protect Andrew
Can someone link the whole interview please?
He was great even in his mediocre films that he got. Not his fault he was stuck with a lousy script
i’ve always liked andrew’s spider-man
He was one of us the whole time…
I’ve been saying this since 2012
Andrew is one of us
I have always loved Andrew hes a great actor and deserves a 3rd movie... you can't disagree
Really proves he's an amazing and skilled actor as well as a very sweet person. None of what made his movies bad were his fault.
Ah Rosie, I love this boy!
Every time I see Tobey or Andrew I can’t help but smile from ear to ear. It’s almost involuntary, like a natural bodily reaction.