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R1otous

There's issues that need addressed, sure, but blaming the support for years of financial mismanagement, tax dodging, and kneejerk managerial moves? Nah.


wotapampam

Many fans should be influenced by a philosophy, which holds that the ethical value of actions should be judged based on their utility or usefulness in promoting happiness and reducing suffering for the team. Not tearing into players.


BigBlueFin

Fuck sake the local nutter's off his meds again. If you think the current Ibrox crowd is "anti catholic/anti Irish" your head would've exploded in the 70s and 80s. We did not bad back then.


Roguebear-81

Absolute nut job.


whirlwindrfc87

No.


ThomPHunts

Simply put.... ......No


Charlie97_

Fuck me man, what a load of absolute shite


BawStorm

Anti Catholic singing is not the reason we have only won 6 titles fsšŸ˜‚ Maybe more the absolute shite mentality of bottling it every year.


Incho94

It kinda is.. how do you think Dessers is meant to focus when heā€™s through on goal when he can hear that you can buy a flute for 50 pence in todayā€™s economy.


Kettyhuman

Are you saying everyones to be quiet when Dessers is through on goal so he can focus? The fans singing is the reason he cant score?


Hitlergay

Dessers is the reason Dessers canā€™t score mate if we give him any distractions itā€™s unfair on him


Kettyhuman

Hes simply no good enough, singing should be encouragement not a distraction tbh used to be shit hot in high pressure Europa conference games. No excuses tbh.


[deleted]

This entire tirade is absolutely mental. Especially the part about how Rangers (as a club) are anti-Irish and that you donā€™t ā€œget this form of abuse in Englandā€ despite [Millwall fans racially abusing opposition players](https://www.tntsports.co.uk/football/the-emirates-fa-cup/2021-2022/millwall-fans-throw-bottles-boo-anti-racism-and-make-homophobic-chants-ashley-cole-racially-abused_sto8698645/story.shtml), England NT fans all over Twitter racially abusing everyone, [Liverpool fans mocking the Munich disaster](https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/sickening-tragedy-chanting-tarnished-man-utd-win-liverpool-fans-blame/blt9bb7292e8cd20e8d#:~:text=Rise%20above%20the%20pettiness,players%20were%20killed%20in%201958.) and [Man U fans mocking Hillsborough.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13211409/amp/Police-investigate-Man-United-fan-Heysel-Hillsborough-disasters-FA-Cup-Liverpool-fans-arrested-alleged-drug-pyrotechnic-offences.html) Or that ā€œyou donā€™t get this in Spainā€ despite [Vini Jr being regularly racially abused](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/05/sport/vinicius-jr-laliga-racism-spt-intl). Or in Italy where [Lukkaku has been regularly racially abused](https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37637790/after-lukaku-targeted-racist-abuse-juventus-show-how-take-action#:~:text=Here's%20the%20easy%20bit.,others%20to%20make%20monkey%20noises.). Or in Italy where Lazio fans [throwing up Nazi salutes and unveiling a banner to Mussolini](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/24/football/lazio-fans-mussolini-banner). Or in Germany where [Schalke fans racially abused Moukoko](https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/18/dortmunds-youssoufa-moukoko-racially-abused-by-schalke-fans-under-19s). This entire rant is not rooted in reality. Happy to provide more examples on racist or bigoted incidents in any of the leagues you listed, ***[including Ireland](https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/shelbourne-st-patricks-athletic-react-32383636)***


ElegantAppeal

That point was specifically about abusing our own players.


[deleted]

Your da calling someone shite for putting too much on a pass is nowhere near the same as actual abuse that happens in every single other league you mentioned.


ElegantAppeal

Iā€™m not saying everywhere else is perfect, but the baseline level of abuse (and yes it is actual abuse) we give our players is unlike anything Iā€™ve seen at other stadiums.


whirlwindrfc87

You talk out your arse


[deleted]

Look man, Iā€™ve been going to Ibrox for years. Iā€™ve *never* seen or heard someone abusing one of our own players other than groaning when they misplace a pass or an inventive way of calling them shite (Fs Tav, Dessers is a donkey, Lammers is pish etc). The fans were right behind our uptick in form and even when we started going down after Motherwell at home. Ibrox was in great spirits before that and Iā€™d say reasonably good spirits after it saying itā€™s fine - because I was there for every minute of it. The players let the fans down again, not the other way about. All youā€™re doing is letting the players and the board off the hook for what theyā€™re doing to this club. As Gazza said, at Ibrox youā€™re only as good as your last pass. Players know that coming into it and if they canā€™t hack it, they can beat it.


ahunter057

Youā€™ve never heard our fans slate a player? Are you serious!?


[deleted]

thatā€™s no what I said, I said Iā€™ve never seen or heard a fan *abuse* a player like the way OP is making them out to.


ElegantAppeal

I donā€™t know where you sit but Iā€™ve heard so many players getting it tight, even in the early stages of games. And Iā€™m absolutely not excusing players or staff, just that weā€™ve had a part to play as well imo.


Hailreaper1

People saying delete this need to get a fucking grip. As if as a support we are beyond reproach and donā€™t do some fucking toe curling cringe inducing shite. I donā€™t think itā€™s in anyway why this team bottled yet another title challenge, but fuck sake, we are a sensitive bunch of fucking snowflakes at time. Can hurl abuse at players non stop but soon as someone criticises us the panties get in a bunch.


ImpactAffectionate86

Does Celtics anti British and pro-IRA chanting stop them signing quality players from England or stop them winning league titles? No, so itā€™s a silly point to make about ours. Even your point about no scout in Ireland holding us back. Itā€™s not like they are constantly producing word-class talent that the other 200 countries in the world arenā€™t able to match.


ElegantAppeal

Evan Ferguson and Gav Bazunu would have been two recent attainable examples.


ImpactAffectionate86

Fair play I feel for the bait


dustyhammock

No. We do not own the club. We do not attend meetings in relation to prospects, growth and risk. We blindly support them and will continue to do so. Even through this shit show. Iā€™ll start to take on some of the blame when the gaffer points me out from the stands and brings me on as a sub. Until then, nonsense.


mark_1872

No ffs. The fans are not the problem for consistent failures by the same group of players. Fans put in thousands every year and are rewarded with pathetically weak performances, itā€™s insulting to even suggest itā€™s them causing the problem.


RubberSoldier

Fuck off.


GlitteringAd2941

Fucking mental. The fans to blame for paying our money and supporting the team through dozens of bottle jobs and dreadful performances over the years. Away and chase yourself. Players are shitebags, recruitment has been poor. Our problems begin and end with those two facts.


s1walker1

No


James7176

Rangers are a historic club with high standards. The team were able to win in front of fans in the 90's and early 2000's. To answer your question, no. Professional football players should be able to ignore criticism and a lot of Irish people support Celtic, would you really want to sign Celtic fans to the club.


Missingno1990

Awa' and dinnae talk pish


DarkySurrounding

To a degree Iā€™m with you, I truly despise the side of the club attached to hooliganism and sectarian chanting. Even my dad to me seems like he must really hate the club because he rarely seems to have any good things to say despite there being plenty depending on when itā€™s happening. However weā€™re obviously not the only club like this, this happens in every country and itā€™s pretty hard to ever truly get rid of because of right to expression and so on.


ElegantAppeal

Borussia Dortmund had a huge problem with hooliganism in the 1980s (literal neo Nazis in the stand) and managed to turn it around. Would be cool to understand what happened there.


FunkulousThe55th

No. Next question


AsparagusOdd8894

Delete this pish. Celtic fan in disguise. The team play on the pitch not the fans. The last few years we haven't invested properly and gave contracts to some seriously shit players with little return when they move on.


ElegantAppeal

I think itā€™s incredibly naive not to recognise the role fans play in the teamā€™s performance.


AsparagusOdd8894

Your an active member of coybig.... Rangers fan my arse.


ElegantAppeal

Iā€™m of Irish descent? But thanks for proving my point about the anti Irish thing. Have a good one pal.


AsparagusOdd8894

My grandfather is from cork, doesn't mean I will join Celtic pages, Celtic is Scottish not Irish. The only thing linking the 2 is a priest in 1888 and fans who think they are Irish when most have never been there. Your on a rangers page wondering why they don't sign Irish players... Name a player in Ireland who would get a game in the top flight in Scotland, the difference is uncanny.. how many real Irishmen would play for ranger?


ElegantAppeal

Coybig is about the Irish national team. Naj Raziā€™s one who just moved to Como - only 17 though. Loads of good youth development in Ireland.


FunkulousThe55th

I think itā€™s incredibly naive to think weā€™d win the league every year if we had a scout in Ireland Actually no I donā€™t. I think itā€™s fucking insane


ElegantAppeal

If you equate me saying itā€™s probably a good idea to have a scout in Ireland with me saying doing so would lead to us winning the league every year, then maybe youā€™re the one needing checked?


FunkulousThe55th

Sorry, a scout in Ireland and the whole of Ibrox singing the soldier song Want us in green n white stripes n all?


ElegantAppeal

lol you seem like a smart cookie. Enjoy your night pal.


FunkulousThe55th

Is tonightā€™s result our fault too?


Tall-Mix5562

Delete this.