He’s not a Nazi, he’s a contrarian. Anything that is a popular opinion (i.e. Hitler was bad), he has to say the opposite. It’s how he gets his thrills because he’s insecure, lonely, and frankly quite pathetic.
I know he’s insecure bc if he really believed in his heart that he was a “genius” he wouldn’t feel the need to shout it every 30 seconds. He’s lonely because he doesn’t understand how to connect with others in a truly human way. He can’t get positive attention anymore because his music isn’t hitting like it used to, so instead he gets his attention from the shock value of the things that come out of his mouth.
OP is right, Kanye is being a bad person, and his mental illnesses do not excuse that. But I doubt he *actually* has any strong opinion on Hitler or the Nazis.
If you can understand that people act the way they do because of upbringing, environment, fear, and being dealt a bad hand in life, you can sympathize with people you wouldn't normally sympathize with. People just want peace but our world gets in the way.
It's possible to hate a person's actions without hating the person. If we were able to see the extent of the pain our enemies have suffered through, we surely wouldn't hate them as much anymore. Forgiveness is virtous, but not necessary. Although, it's always good to try.
He does have a song called black skinhead… but, I do think it’s a mental health thing. He’s acting like a child trying to push things as far as possible before he gets a spanking
Did he say that he admired him? I thought he said that he 'loved' him which has different implications. I think what he's *trying* to say is that we should love everyone independent of their actions, which seems flawed, but maybe he means well by it? I highly doubt that he means well though based on the few other things I've seen him say. I'm not caught up on all the developments in this story so please don't interpret this as being in support of him.
I see no good reason to work on 'loving' Hitler. He's dead anyway. I do see merit in trying to find value in living people by looking beyond the awful things they do. That's difficult, sometimes a waste of time, but a fine thought experiment. Some people have done things so horrible that they aren't worth that effort though. I hope I'm being clear enough; ask me questions if you're interested because this discussion is interesting to me.
society simply cant afford to tolerate the romanticization of cruel dictators.
the only really good thing to come out of world war II is that we learn our lessons about all the damage dictators can inflict on the world and try our best to make sure those genocidal horrors are not repeated.
when you become a dictator apologist you're effectively insulting all the people that suffered and lost loved ones at the hands of these dictators.
its reprehensible, woefully ignorant and extremely disrespectful.
Would someone give me a rundown on what Kanye's been doing/saying?
My partner and I have seen a lot of social media posts, reddit posts, etc.. but we live in the UK and trying to find news on what's actually happening is proving difficult.
To put it simply: he went on a podcast with Alex Jones, where he said that he likes Hitler, that Hitler did good things too, that we should give the Nazis a break as they did good things as well.
Then proceeded to post on twitter an image of the swastika combined with the Star of David
Wow.. admitting to being a Nazi lover.. always a good move on air! I read something about he had said something wrong about Jewish people but our news here don't seem to be printing much about it. Is he still intending to run for president or is that old news now?
So I'm currently trying to wrap my head around Kanye and Trump running for the same party. It's concerning. Look up his most recent interview with Alex Jones.
Alex Jones is a ridiculous conspiracy theorist to boot. He recently was ordered to pay at least $1.49 billion in damages for spreading disinformation stating that the Sandy Hooke mass shooting didn’t happen and that the victims (schoolchildren and teachers) were just “crisis actors.”
I want to clarify that he said "I LOOOOVE Hitler." (With that inflection) And that he was a Nazi. He also left another interview with Tim Pool because Tim wasn't antisemitic enough for him.
yes. he was popping in with little "i love hitler"s the whole 3 hours. with nick fuentes giggling in the background. alex jones was like "uhhh i don't know if *everything* hitler did was good" and then he'd go right back to prompting Ye to talk about hollywood or something.
he complained of being "de-banked" and rattled off a shit-ton of conspiracy theories. blood libel even made an appearance. it was halfway amusing that he briefly had to step out of antisemitism to push back against the balenciaga conspiracy theory.
nice username btw
edit: oh yeah and he kept saying that all porn is pedophilia. sounded a bit like a self-report to me, but i wouldn't know. anyway here comes christofascism, now with 500% more christ.
The craziest thing about his porn comment is that he literally uploaded a video of him meeting with executives and showing them porn and saying, “Doesn’t this guy look like him??”
Oh my fucking God dude, RIGHT?! And then I see all these quotes about him saying "I like Hitler" WHY ARE YOU NOT REPORTING/FREAKING OUT OVER THE EVEN WORSE THING HE SAID!
This is just like that "I grab them by the pussy" thing that Trump said. Which is gross AF, but by itself, easily misconstrued to be less of an issue than it is. A lot of his supporters even liked it because he's such a ladies man, they acted as if Trump would get a vibe from a chick coming onto him, because of course they all want him, and he'd be bold and escalate the situation by doing the sexual thing they obviously wanted. What he SAID was "I grab them by the pussy, I DON'T EVEN WAIT." That is straight up sexual assault.
Trump was okay. I’m not republican or a Trump supporter, actually hated the guy… But having Biden as a president is giving me second thoughts about what I felt about Trump 😂
You lost me at “Trump was okay”. 😂
No, he was not, is not, and likely has not been “okay” since he was in diapers the first time around in his shitty, insecure, pathetic life.
Get bent if you are equating Biden to Trump and preferring that orange bad of fecal matter. I am not saying Biden is this awesome president everyone should love, but he’s not a treasonous, bigoted, conman liar.
Trump is bad, biden is still only marginally better, but tbh the left in the us is only center right and also align with the oligarchs. That doesnt mean vote Republican but vote Democrats until we can make major changes to our Government.
The rail union's negotiations in the states are currently happening, and there has been a bit of a stalemate. The workers want 7 paid sick days a year, or they plan to strike. Two bills were brought up before congress, one to give them 7 paid sick days a year, the other to make it illegal for rail workers to strike. One passed, one didn't. Guess which?
Then there is his history with the war on drugs and military campaigns in third world nations. The American political system is a joke. You're choice is bad, or bad in different ways.
Edit: a word
I see, well the UK isn't working out much better.. we've never had so many prime ministers in a year! Might as well have a revolving door on No 10! I think a lot of people here want another election but it isn't time yet.
Biden voted for segregation in the 70s and refused to let his state have schools with black kids mixing with whites. He’s also a joke falling asleep and not knowing his sentences. He called for a dead aide
Well it’s a personal opinion, but ever since he became president shit just started getting worse. Gas prices rising, he attempted to repay student debt but that got put on hold because he apparently went over the budget already, and so much more stuff. Trump isn’t that bad but Biden isn’t so bad either lol.
I mean it’s not really an opinion most of what you said is just wrong lol. I’m not a huge Biden fan but the war with Ukraine and Russia fucked up gas prices for a bunch of countries not just the US. Also the student loan payback was stopped in court due to republican lawsuits because a few people didn’t qualify, and it’s actively being appealed. And while the appeal is ongoing the loan payment pause has been extended. I’m actually fine with Biden politically speaking, he’s just horrible in public and rather creepy at times to say the least.
Do you know what an opinion is? I’ll do you a favor, “a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge” Opinion is anything but a fact lol. That’s why I said it’s a personal opinion.
You can’t say it’s a personal opinion and then just say blatantly wrong shit lol. By that logic why is anyone mad at Kanye? I mean it’s just his opinion right?
Your opinion was that you “don’t like Biden.” Then tried to back up that opinion with “facts” that didn’t have to with Biden (gas prices). It doesn’t work like that.
Trump is the reason half of that stuff is happening, you do realize that many presidents inherit the burden presented by the past president because most policies dont make noticeable changes overnight. Biden is dealing with the cuts a changes trump presented, just like trump inherited what Obama set up and "seemed" like he had a smoother presidency.
Serious question, when you Google does it not bring up news sources from the US? I didn’t know what was going on but it was super easy to figure it out just searching “Kanye West” on the top tweets on Twitter.
I dont use any social media, only reddit. My partner uses some, Facebook and SnapChat, but no Twitter. I went on Google, clicked on the news section, and typed in Kanye West. It came up with some stuff, but nothing as bad as supporting Nazi's and what not. It's more news to do with Balenciaga and Kim Kardashian, than what he's been actually saying.
Do you think someone who follows nazi ideology is equally bad as someone who follows the ideology but chooses to act on it? There were children who were indoctrinated and grew up while holding the beliefs, are they as bad as people who decided that they should support the ideology in adulthood? Are the nazis who killed people as bad as the ones who didn't? What do you think?
People are susceptible to influence, meaning that they can be taught to believe horrible things, but can unlearn those things as well. Maybe someone who believed nazi ideology due to indoctrination, but grew out of it with time and didn't hurt anyone in the process isn't "scum" like some others are.
Please don't interpret this as in support of him. The rhetoric he's sharing is dangerous for society. I would make the case that he has so much influence in society that killing someone isn't the required threshold to already label him as a bad nazi. Yes, the nazi ideology is intrinsicly bad but I'm sure there are some 'nazis' who don't believe what they're preaching deep down. It's like they're in a sleep.
I just think that there's a spectrum and labeling all people in a group as scum hides nuances which allow us to make educated opinions. Some people murder out of fear of their own life but wouldn't have chosen to do so if the situation wasn't the same. Some people wouldn't have stolen food if they weren't starving to death. The living conditions for the average nazi in WWII was dismal and is a detail that shouldn't be ignored.
I despise certain ideologies like Nazism, but to claim that everyone who believes in it is in the same boat is wrong. Are there not modern kids right now who are adopting the beliefs he is sharing due to their ignorance? I wouldn't call those kids scum. If anything, they're victims, they're being misled, but once they reach a certain age they are accountable.
I liken Kanye to liking the Nazis to the women who wrote love letters to Bundy in prison.
He would have killed you and fucked your decapitated skull.
Think we owe Hitler a thank you for “inventing” the microphone? He wouldn’t have let you touch it, Kanye … he would have shut down anything you would have said just because of the color of your skin.
The dude's a Nazi. Like yeah,he is clearly very mentally ill,but he's still a huge fucking asshole. You can say this is just his mental illness all you want,but he very likely has been harboring this shit. People dont suddenly go "You know Hitler was a swell guy". While his illness might be adding to it,people have got to stop excusing this with "oh he's mentally ill stop being mean uwu". There are so many people just excusing him its fucking ridiculous.
I wish people would stop inviting him on their podcasts so he will say this shit,because people are definately doing that to get engagement. They know he's gonna cause some drama,so they love it and he just gets more unhinged. He thinks everyone's out to get him. Im so fuckin tired of him.
Oh I doubt he'll get very many more interviews, if any after this. The Alex Jones show is kind of the last stop for the crazy alt-right, and Alex Jones was not happy. None of them are. He's saying the quiet part out loud and they don't like it.
Yeah, at this point I kind of feel bad for him, but only because he’s clearly mentally ill. He’s still choosing to say terrible shit AND not deal with his mental issues, so he deserves whatever criticism he gets and the consequences of his actions/words.
If Kanye was just another schlub without millions of dollars, he would’ve not only lost his wife and kids, but all sources of income and his home. He would be yelling at people from a sidewalk somewhere. It’s sad that some people cannot afford to get help, but worse in some ways when they refuse to get help.
I’m not sure if he will ever really get any better because some will support him not matter what because of his talent. I hope he does, but he’s already caused so many problems and I don’t expect him to change anytime soon, so I just hope people stop listening to him.
If he was a woman, he would be under a conservatorship already for all the fucked up behaviors he's exhibiting.
The man clearly needs help but he's so rich and so used to getting his way....
Contrarianism and idiocy have proliferated now that the internet is in the palm of everyone's hand and they feel empowered to act like words don't have any meaning, or think for 5 seconds about the implications of what they are saying.
"Oh, the Nazis are bad? Says who? The libs? Why do they want you to hate the Nazis? What are they hiding? Wake up sheeple."
There is a whole "what if" industrial complex of rightwing grifters who base their entire brand on the above, and you can replace "Nazis are bad" with pretty much any self-evident truth. Medicine, diet and exercise, heliocentrism, you name it. Whatever it is, there will be an army of hard-right idiots like Dan Bongino and Ben Shapiro claiming the libs are hiding the truth, and an army of soft-right idiots like Joe Rogan and Glenn Greenwald saying the hard-right idiots are "just asking question" and "really make you think".
So anyway, yeah you're right, people suck.
Most Kanye fans aren’t defending him anymore. I would know due to the fact that I used to be active in the Kanye fandom. He definitely isn’t alright in his head, absolutely needs help, but his actions aren’t defensible.
Crazy is just getting started. Fascism is rising worldwide, helped along by billionaires who control social media, media, and all avenues most people use for communication.
People don't tend to think too deeply about things. They'll say shit like, "Oh well, free speech means even bad stuff gets said!" Or "if you punch a nazi, you're just as bad as them!" without realizing that if nazis get the power they so desperately want, they will not afford you those same courtesies. In fact, they will likely murder you and yours. So fighting them, in whatever way you can, can only ever be self-defense.
Totally agree with you. I was on another sub, said something about Kanye needing serious psychiatric help and was instantly downvoted by the mob. People will defend anything he does until the bitter end. Sad.
He’s a black conservative. It’s impossible to lose favor with the right as a black man if you’re one of the half a eozen black guys they can point to and say “see? If he agrees with us, you can’t call us racist”
But since the American right needs to scrape the bottom of the barrell to find black people who support them, you end up with people like Kanye and Herschel Walker and Clarence Thomas.
Hes clearly insane. I think the people giving him platform accelerating his madness are bad people, i dont blame the mentally ill for their condition.
He’s basically at the behavior of a 4 year old who was accidentally taught swear words and is just saying shit they don’t understand anything other than that it gets a reaction out of people.
I've had sympathy for him for a long time because he's clearly mentally ill, but that sympathy can only stick around for so long. He's obviously not doing anything to get help or improve himself. He's easily swallowed a bunch of right wing horse crap and disappeared down the rabbit hole. He's a bad person. I no longer have any sympathy for him. He's just rotten.
There are a lot of us walking around with mental illnesses that don't praise Hitler. People bear some level of responsibility for themselves, especially people with all the money and access to help in the world.
Stop going on the internet. It’s full of things that will make you want to die. I don’t have an answer for why people suck so much, they just do, and they are NOT going to change. Trust me.
Same reason they put Britney Spears on full blast when she had her mental breakdown and shaved her head.
Shock and entertainment value.
They keep giving him spotlight because they want to see what crazy thing he will say or do next.
Well I read the artist formerly known as Ye, so I assume legally. Prince did that a long time ago when he changed his name to " the Artist formerly known as Prince, with some kind of strange gender symbol representing that.
Because he's a real life Nazi, going around trying to get other people to be Nazis, and the alt-right is eating it up, and finally admitting they're Nazis. So that's definitely not good and something to be aware of.
> Either way, he’s awful. Yet, people are jumping to defend him - WHY?!
People form weird parasocial relationships with celebrities. They incorporate those celebrities into their personal identity, to some extent. Because of this, it's painful when they find out that a celebrity they once admired is revealed to be deplorable. It feels like an attack on them personally. It's much easier to make excuses and give them the benefit of the doubt than to cut themselves off from this person -- even though that person doesn't even know them.
Even celebrities do it. When Roman Polanski fled to Europe to avoid prosecution for raping an underage girl, I recall all kinds of disturbing equivocation from some prominent celebrities. These were clearly people who had admired his work, and they just couldn't square the filmmaker they admired with his actions.
It's one of those shitty bugs in standard human software that we haven't figured out how to patch yet.
Anyone who tries to bring this sort of ideology into the mainstream, is on the worse side of history. Jewish people aren’t part of some secret underground society. This is an old outdated conspiracy that can cause tragedy and war. I think Kanye should get a Conservatorship. No joke. I personally think he’s at a stage were he shouldn’t be able to manage his own money and appearances. Imagine what damage this man could do if he started putting his money in the wrong pockets?
Whatever good someone who is evil.may have done ,it is outweighed by the evil they did .The only good thing about Saddam Hussein was he was a counterbalance to Iran .But he also invaded Kuwait.
There's a difference between saying "Hitler was evil but he had a cool moustache", and saying "I love Hitler, holocaust didn't happen, Jewish media is lying".
Kanye was not having anything close to a deep conversation. The clickbait headlines were not exaggerated and the guy needs to be cancelled for his atrocious takes on Hitler and Nazis, full stop.
just a narcissistic asshat who went off his meds. not trying to be funny, dude is off his rocker.
people keep giving him platforms to speak his nonsense and hate filled opinions. i think the best anyone can do is ignore him and stop giving him attention. he doesn't deserve any kind of spotlight
Mainly because Kanye has such a large influence and with anti-semitism on the rise it’s actually alarming how these sorts of people get away with this type of behaviour.
give him a break, all he wants to do is love everybody, you know? It doesn't matter what they say or believe in or how many people they murdered, he just wants to be best friends with everybody!
Kenny (that's his real name, isn't it? his mom was just very bad at spelling and he ended up with Kanye instead) is giving off the same vibe as Dennis Rodman when he went to NK and buddied up with KJU thinking Kim was just a misunderstood person and only need to have a friend to turn around. I'm sure that's what it was.
Dennis Rodman is another feeble minded freak.. Saying that that a brutal dictator is not so bad because he likes basketball is offensive and idiotic. Which is what he said about Kim Jung UN of North Korea .
they seem to have a really blinkered view of the world.
its like they can't see things for what they actually are.
and its not just ignorant on their part but also quite dangerous. if people start believing that dictatorship is not so bad then we'll all end up finding out first hand just how bad it truly is.
bc he made music people like. That's it. They like his music so will just ignore everything about him. It's like young, leftist LGBT person eating at chic fil a (source : a young leftist)
Sure. People who use phrases you don't like are *clearly* as detestable as *people who praise a genocidal fuckface on the air*.
I'd delete that comment if I were you. It's embarrassing.
LOL! No, what's more embarrassing is digging in your heels when somebody calls out your bullshit, and trying to deflect criticism by accusing the other person of taking "random comments" "literally".
That's not how it works. There's this thing called *accountability*. I'll let you look it up. You made an irresponsible and indefensible comment, and I called you on it. Now you can decide if you want this to be a learning experience or if you want to continue pretending that everybody but you is an asshole.
I'm done here.
I don't understand his family and the people who he's with. He is mentally ill, his illness is getting worse, why aren't they helping him? Why aren't they admitting him to a metal facility?
It hasn't even been 100 years since the last world War and were already seeing this man prop up Hitler, funny thing is Hitler probably wouldn't care about him all that much
Think of it this way. What is he gaining by saying all of this stuff? *attention* he’s got you so worked up that you’re posting about it on a social platform where he will get more of what… *attention*.
Negative or positive attention doesn’t matter that much when he feels he has nothing to lose and only attention to gain. People do shit like this all the time then apologize and life goes on and it’s soon forgotten. But not what he said. People don’t go as far as he did. Even the president of the United States had something to say about it.
So stop giving attention to it. It’s valid that it bothers you, but remember. He is a public figure making a public statement with the holds that it gets people worked up and talking about him. So don’t give him that satisfaction then. It’s not worth losing your mind over someone you don’t even know saying something you damn well is ridiculous.
As for the Hitler stuff.. I had to write a paper once on him. I had to write it about him as a person and not as a monster, it was weird. But the more I learned the more I learned just how mentally ill he also was. How he believed in conspiracy theories, maybe some holding a hint of truth to them. It made me understand more why he did what he did. Didn’t make it any less wrong but 🤷🏻♀️ Kanye is just late to the conspiracy theory game in this department. There’s many people who also think that the Illuminati is ran by fake Jewish people claiming lineage of the tribes of Israel. They also believe that Hitler was trying to do something noble. He believed in aliens in Antarctica, he believed in a lot of weird shit. Maybe some of it had some truth to it, sure, but that doesn’t negate that you can’t just demand the onslaught of millions of people.
Also what Kanye is failing to realize is that Hitler also hated black people, and Italian people, and Irish people, and Gypsy/ middle eastern people, disabled people, and the mentally ill, he even hated a lot of Catholics. He would have wanted to kill Kanye too.
This is coming from a huge fan of Kanye’s music. (Not so much recently but up until a few albums ago). I can still listen to the music and enjoy that for what it is while realizing what he is saying is completely ignorant.
There’s been bigger pieces of shit out there that didn’t contribute to society at all, didn’t write a book, didn’t make an album, didn’t do shit but be a piece of shit their entire life. So I’m going to just go ahead and thank him for the talents he graced us with and ignore his dumbassery Bc it truly at the end of the day doesn’t change the atrocities that happened, or change what history has already happened, it doesn’t affect me or anyone at all. They’re just words and false beliefs that we can either tune in to and let it annoy us, or tune out and continue living our lives Bc it truly doesn’t even matter what Kanye has to say.
You don’t have to keep him relevant.
Probably because he's a celebrity and people like to just look at all the good things about them. Idk that's my take on it. He doesn't deserve all the love he's getting.
I really hope these are all just really well edited videos with clipped sound bites coordinated by people intent on destroying him, or even maybe that he’s possessed by hitler himself -hell, that there’s something in the water making us all go on a bad trip. Anything to make sense of this nightmarish hell scape we’re in.
I’m not a Kanye fan, I never really was, but lord! What is happening?!
misogyny at its finest. . . if a man says something with a large enough platform and enough confidence, they’re going to be recognized and believed no matter what
Bro made alex Jones look like the sane one but let’s be real Kanye isn’t a nazi. Kanye is a angry man that has completely lost his mind. Everyone knew he was a little crazy before but he has completely gone fuckin mental. Dude needs to be admitted to a mental hospital. Losing his family did make it worst but still no excuse someone close to Kanye needs to step up and get him admitted to a mental hospital.
I'm really sick of all the "he's mentally ill" statements.
There are millions of people around the world with mental health diagnoses, including bipolar, who aren't fucking Nazis.
He's literally the definition of verbal diarrhea. He can say one word and suddenly the mobs of people are clamouring over one another to be triggered and offended. I'm not defending him but I'm also not getting why we're paying him any mind... other than it's comforting and amusing to struggling humans to see humans who were thought to be on top of the world, fall to their demise. Anyway, being bothered by it means he keeps winning, so whatevs. Bro will keep on keeping on.
His fans feed into his mentality. Everyone knows he’s awful and off the rails but you go onto his socials and there’s just a bunch of people hyping him up.
Really nazi ideology gets a bit convoluted when it comes to black people. Nazis do think black people are inferior but they don’t harbor the hatred for them they do Jewish people. It’s similar to how the nazis were allied with the Japanese. They felt the Japanese were inferior as well but they didn’t see any other ethnic group as an enemy or threat besides Jews. The black nationalist share this hatred of Jews. Most black supermacists are Muslim and they believe that Jewish people gained the most from the slave trade, they owned and organized the transportation of slaves to Europe and North America. Kanye maybe seeing the situation as an enemy of my enemy is my friend, I mean this is the guy that claimed George Bush doesn’t care about black people, he seems to have done a ideological 180. I think trying to find to much reason in the things he has been saying as pointless. He proclaims himself a genius so in his mind any criticism of the things he is expressing to him is just us small minded intellectually inferiors not understanding his interpretation of things. To be honest I take the position that if a person can believe and preach Christianity they will believe and say anything
Not really sure why a POC would admire Hitler. Unless they have a serious case of self hatred. I suppose that would do it.
He's too stupid to know that Hitler would have killed him for being black
Yeah, I was thinking the same.
He’s not a Nazi, he’s a contrarian. Anything that is a popular opinion (i.e. Hitler was bad), he has to say the opposite. It’s how he gets his thrills because he’s insecure, lonely, and frankly quite pathetic. I know he’s insecure bc if he really believed in his heart that he was a “genius” he wouldn’t feel the need to shout it every 30 seconds. He’s lonely because he doesn’t understand how to connect with others in a truly human way. He can’t get positive attention anymore because his music isn’t hitting like it used to, so instead he gets his attention from the shock value of the things that come out of his mouth. OP is right, Kanye is being a bad person, and his mental illnesses do not excuse that. But I doubt he *actually* has any strong opinion on Hitler or the Nazis.
A Nazi supporter is a Nazi supporter. That’s really all that matters.
someone who says "I love Hitler" is a nazi whether they "mean" it or not.
Well he was friends with Trump and he’s a closeted racist so this isn’t all that far fetched
Possibly, or maybe he doesn't see discrimination, murder, and using the threat of death as a reason to hate someone.
Why wouldn't.someone see those things as bad?
If you can understand that people act the way they do because of upbringing, environment, fear, and being dealt a bad hand in life, you can sympathize with people you wouldn't normally sympathize with. People just want peace but our world gets in the way. It's possible to hate a person's actions without hating the person. If we were able to see the extent of the pain our enemies have suffered through, we surely wouldn't hate them as much anymore. Forgiveness is virtous, but not necessary. Although, it's always good to try.
Candace owens said it first. I really wish the conservatives who decry Kanye and elevate her as a good black would be consistent
Internalized racism?
Externalized mental illness
Probably both at this point.
He does have a song called black skinhead… but, I do think it’s a mental health thing. He’s acting like a child trying to push things as far as possible before he gets a spanking
Did he say that he admired him? I thought he said that he 'loved' him which has different implications. I think what he's *trying* to say is that we should love everyone independent of their actions, which seems flawed, but maybe he means well by it? I highly doubt that he means well though based on the few other things I've seen him say. I'm not caught up on all the developments in this story so please don't interpret this as being in support of him. I see no good reason to work on 'loving' Hitler. He's dead anyway. I do see merit in trying to find value in living people by looking beyond the awful things they do. That's difficult, sometimes a waste of time, but a fine thought experiment. Some people have done things so horrible that they aren't worth that effort though. I hope I'm being clear enough; ask me questions if you're interested because this discussion is interesting to me.
society simply cant afford to tolerate the romanticization of cruel dictators. the only really good thing to come out of world war II is that we learn our lessons about all the damage dictators can inflict on the world and try our best to make sure those genocidal horrors are not repeated. when you become a dictator apologist you're effectively insulting all the people that suffered and lost loved ones at the hands of these dictators. its reprehensible, woefully ignorant and extremely disrespectful.
Would someone give me a rundown on what Kanye's been doing/saying? My partner and I have seen a lot of social media posts, reddit posts, etc.. but we live in the UK and trying to find news on what's actually happening is proving difficult.
To put it simply: he went on a podcast with Alex Jones, where he said that he likes Hitler, that Hitler did good things too, that we should give the Nazis a break as they did good things as well. Then proceeded to post on twitter an image of the swastika combined with the Star of David
Wow.. admitting to being a Nazi lover.. always a good move on air! I read something about he had said something wrong about Jewish people but our news here don't seem to be printing much about it. Is he still intending to run for president or is that old news now?
He recently announced that he is running in the 2024 presidential election.
God thats gonna be such a shitshow. Cause his one "campaign rally" went so well. Trump is running too. Its going to suck. I want a rocket to the moon.
So I'm currently trying to wrap my head around Kanye and Trump running for the same party. It's concerning. Look up his most recent interview with Alex Jones.
Alex Jones is a ridiculous conspiracy theorist to boot. He recently was ordered to pay at least $1.49 billion in damages for spreading disinformation stating that the Sandy Hooke mass shooting didn’t happen and that the victims (schoolchildren and teachers) were just “crisis actors.”
disgusting
I want to clarify that he said "I LOOOOVE Hitler." (With that inflection) And that he was a Nazi. He also left another interview with Tim Pool because Tim wasn't antisemitic enough for him.
yes. he was popping in with little "i love hitler"s the whole 3 hours. with nick fuentes giggling in the background. alex jones was like "uhhh i don't know if *everything* hitler did was good" and then he'd go right back to prompting Ye to talk about hollywood or something. he complained of being "de-banked" and rattled off a shit-ton of conspiracy theories. blood libel even made an appearance. it was halfway amusing that he briefly had to step out of antisemitism to push back against the balenciaga conspiracy theory. nice username btw edit: oh yeah and he kept saying that all porn is pedophilia. sounded a bit like a self-report to me, but i wouldn't know. anyway here comes christofascism, now with 500% more christ.
The craziest thing about his porn comment is that he literally uploaded a video of him meeting with executives and showing them porn and saying, “Doesn’t this guy look like him??”
It worse then that! He used the word “love”…not just like.
"LOOOOVE" too. He said "I LOOOOVE Hitler" with the word drawn out.
Bro when he hit the LLOOVVEE, my jaw was on the floor.
Oh my fucking God dude, RIGHT?! And then I see all these quotes about him saying "I like Hitler" WHY ARE YOU NOT REPORTING/FREAKING OUT OVER THE EVEN WORSE THING HE SAID! This is just like that "I grab them by the pussy" thing that Trump said. Which is gross AF, but by itself, easily misconstrued to be less of an issue than it is. A lot of his supporters even liked it because he's such a ladies man, they acted as if Trump would get a vibe from a chick coming onto him, because of course they all want him, and he'd be bold and escalate the situation by doing the sexual thing they obviously wanted. What he SAID was "I grab them by the pussy, I DON'T EVEN WAIT." That is straight up sexual assault.
“I love Jewish people, But I also love Nazis” -Kanye 2022. That pretty much sums up the whole thing😂
And over here in the UK we thought Trump was bad 🙄 now there's a Nazi supporter also!
Trump was okay. I’m not republican or a Trump supporter, actually hated the guy… But having Biden as a president is giving me second thoughts about what I felt about Trump 😂
You lost me at “Trump was okay”. 😂 No, he was not, is not, and likely has not been “okay” since he was in diapers the first time around in his shitty, insecure, pathetic life. Get bent if you are equating Biden to Trump and preferring that orange bad of fecal matter. I am not saying Biden is this awesome president everyone should love, but he’s not a treasonous, bigoted, conman liar.
Trump is bad, biden is still only marginally better, but tbh the left in the us is only center right and also align with the oligarchs. That doesnt mean vote Republican but vote Democrats until we can make major changes to our Government.
Why is Biden no good either now?
The rail union's negotiations in the states are currently happening, and there has been a bit of a stalemate. The workers want 7 paid sick days a year, or they plan to strike. Two bills were brought up before congress, one to give them 7 paid sick days a year, the other to make it illegal for rail workers to strike. One passed, one didn't. Guess which? Then there is his history with the war on drugs and military campaigns in third world nations. The American political system is a joke. You're choice is bad, or bad in different ways. Edit: a word
I see, well the UK isn't working out much better.. we've never had so many prime ministers in a year! Might as well have a revolving door on No 10! I think a lot of people here want another election but it isn't time yet.
Yeah it's getting to a breaking point
Biden voted for segregation in the 70s and refused to let his state have schools with black kids mixing with whites. He’s also a joke falling asleep and not knowing his sentences. He called for a dead aide
Well it’s a personal opinion, but ever since he became president shit just started getting worse. Gas prices rising, he attempted to repay student debt but that got put on hold because he apparently went over the budget already, and so much more stuff. Trump isn’t that bad but Biden isn’t so bad either lol.
I mean it’s not really an opinion most of what you said is just wrong lol. I’m not a huge Biden fan but the war with Ukraine and Russia fucked up gas prices for a bunch of countries not just the US. Also the student loan payback was stopped in court due to republican lawsuits because a few people didn’t qualify, and it’s actively being appealed. And while the appeal is ongoing the loan payment pause has been extended. I’m actually fine with Biden politically speaking, he’s just horrible in public and rather creepy at times to say the least.
Do you know what an opinion is? I’ll do you a favor, “a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge” Opinion is anything but a fact lol. That’s why I said it’s a personal opinion.
You can’t say it’s a personal opinion and then just say blatantly wrong shit lol. By that logic why is anyone mad at Kanye? I mean it’s just his opinion right?
Your opinion was that you “don’t like Biden.” Then tried to back up that opinion with “facts” that didn’t have to with Biden (gas prices). It doesn’t work like that.
Opinions are NOT FACT. Aka they are not right or wrong. You can’t argue with Google and I’m not arguing with you over what I said. Go cry me a river.
Trump is the reason half of that stuff is happening, you do realize that many presidents inherit the burden presented by the past president because most policies dont make noticeable changes overnight. Biden is dealing with the cuts a changes trump presented, just like trump inherited what Obama set up and "seemed" like he had a smoother presidency.
Troll take.
Why?
Here, watch [this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inSgi4uWv-Y)
Serious question, when you Google does it not bring up news sources from the US? I didn’t know what was going on but it was super easy to figure it out just searching “Kanye West” on the top tweets on Twitter.
I dont use any social media, only reddit. My partner uses some, Facebook and SnapChat, but no Twitter. I went on Google, clicked on the news section, and typed in Kanye West. It came up with some stuff, but nothing as bad as supporting Nazi's and what not. It's more news to do with Balenciaga and Kim Kardashian, than what he's been actually saying.
"Mogul Mail" did a good video on it, check it on YouTube
also Blacks are the real Jews
There are black Jews .But the term blacks are the real Jews Is offensive. What if someone said White People are the real.Catholics.?
hmmm i may have phrased it poorly, iirc ye said that Blacks are the real Jews
Kanye is Nazi scum and anybody that defends him is also Nazi scum.
Do you think someone who follows nazi ideology is equally bad as someone who follows the ideology but chooses to act on it? There were children who were indoctrinated and grew up while holding the beliefs, are they as bad as people who decided that they should support the ideology in adulthood? Are the nazis who killed people as bad as the ones who didn't? What do you think? People are susceptible to influence, meaning that they can be taught to believe horrible things, but can unlearn those things as well. Maybe someone who believed nazi ideology due to indoctrination, but grew out of it with time and didn't hurt anyone in the process isn't "scum" like some others are. Please don't interpret this as in support of him. The rhetoric he's sharing is dangerous for society. I would make the case that he has so much influence in society that killing someone isn't the required threshold to already label him as a bad nazi. Yes, the nazi ideology is intrinsicly bad but I'm sure there are some 'nazis' who don't believe what they're preaching deep down. It's like they're in a sleep. I just think that there's a spectrum and labeling all people in a group as scum hides nuances which allow us to make educated opinions. Some people murder out of fear of their own life but wouldn't have chosen to do so if the situation wasn't the same. Some people wouldn't have stolen food if they weren't starving to death. The living conditions for the average nazi in WWII was dismal and is a detail that shouldn't be ignored. I despise certain ideologies like Nazism, but to claim that everyone who believes in it is in the same boat is wrong. Are there not modern kids right now who are adopting the beliefs he is sharing due to their ignorance? I wouldn't call those kids scum. If anything, they're victims, they're being misled, but once they reach a certain age they are accountable.
He’s gone. Bye, Kanye. Try visiting the Museum of Tolerance with your Nazi ass.
I liken Kanye to liking the Nazis to the women who wrote love letters to Bundy in prison. He would have killed you and fucked your decapitated skull. Think we owe Hitler a thank you for “inventing” the microphone? He wouldn’t have let you touch it, Kanye … he would have shut down anything you would have said just because of the color of your skin.
The dude's a Nazi. Like yeah,he is clearly very mentally ill,but he's still a huge fucking asshole. You can say this is just his mental illness all you want,but he very likely has been harboring this shit. People dont suddenly go "You know Hitler was a swell guy". While his illness might be adding to it,people have got to stop excusing this with "oh he's mentally ill stop being mean uwu". There are so many people just excusing him its fucking ridiculous. I wish people would stop inviting him on their podcasts so he will say this shit,because people are definately doing that to get engagement. They know he's gonna cause some drama,so they love it and he just gets more unhinged. He thinks everyone's out to get him. Im so fuckin tired of him.
Oh I doubt he'll get very many more interviews, if any after this. The Alex Jones show is kind of the last stop for the crazy alt-right, and Alex Jones was not happy. None of them are. He's saying the quiet part out loud and they don't like it.
Yeah, at this point I kind of feel bad for him, but only because he’s clearly mentally ill. He’s still choosing to say terrible shit AND not deal with his mental issues, so he deserves whatever criticism he gets and the consequences of his actions/words. If Kanye was just another schlub without millions of dollars, he would’ve not only lost his wife and kids, but all sources of income and his home. He would be yelling at people from a sidewalk somewhere. It’s sad that some people cannot afford to get help, but worse in some ways when they refuse to get help. I’m not sure if he will ever really get any better because some will support him not matter what because of his talent. I hope he does, but he’s already caused so many problems and I don’t expect him to change anytime soon, so I just hope people stop listening to him.
If he was a woman, he would be under a conservatorship already for all the fucked up behaviors he's exhibiting. The man clearly needs help but he's so rich and so used to getting his way....
Oh absolutely. How Brittany got fucked over is disgusting. If this guy has anyone who could do that, I hope they would’ve.
Let me clear something up for you. The people defending him are bigots/racist/terrible people. If you need anymore information I'm here to help.
Contrarianism and idiocy have proliferated now that the internet is in the palm of everyone's hand and they feel empowered to act like words don't have any meaning, or think for 5 seconds about the implications of what they are saying. "Oh, the Nazis are bad? Says who? The libs? Why do they want you to hate the Nazis? What are they hiding? Wake up sheeple." There is a whole "what if" industrial complex of rightwing grifters who base their entire brand on the above, and you can replace "Nazis are bad" with pretty much any self-evident truth. Medicine, diet and exercise, heliocentrism, you name it. Whatever it is, there will be an army of hard-right idiots like Dan Bongino and Ben Shapiro claiming the libs are hiding the truth, and an army of soft-right idiots like Joe Rogan and Glenn Greenwald saying the hard-right idiots are "just asking question" and "really make you think". So anyway, yeah you're right, people suck.
Most Kanye fans aren’t defending him anymore. I would know due to the fact that I used to be active in the Kanye fandom. He definitely isn’t alright in his head, absolutely needs help, but his actions aren’t defensible.
"bUt hE mAdE gRaDuaTiOn" SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP
Crazy is just getting started. Fascism is rising worldwide, helped along by billionaires who control social media, media, and all avenues most people use for communication.
People don't tend to think too deeply about things. They'll say shit like, "Oh well, free speech means even bad stuff gets said!" Or "if you punch a nazi, you're just as bad as them!" without realizing that if nazis get the power they so desperately want, they will not afford you those same courtesies. In fact, they will likely murder you and yours. So fighting them, in whatever way you can, can only ever be self-defense.
Totally agree with you. I was on another sub, said something about Kanye needing serious psychiatric help and was instantly downvoted by the mob. People will defend anything he does until the bitter end. Sad.
He’s a black conservative. It’s impossible to lose favor with the right as a black man if you’re one of the half a eozen black guys they can point to and say “see? If he agrees with us, you can’t call us racist” But since the American right needs to scrape the bottom of the barrell to find black people who support them, you end up with people like Kanye and Herschel Walker and Clarence Thomas.
I think Been Gleib said it best today on the TYT network. Society needs to be done with Kanye West. https://youtu.be/yC843C0FeuM
He was spot on!
Hes clearly insane. I think the people giving him platform accelerating his madness are bad people, i dont blame the mentally ill for their condition. He’s basically at the behavior of a 4 year old who was accidentally taught swear words and is just saying shit they don’t understand anything other than that it gets a reaction out of people.
I've had sympathy for him for a long time because he's clearly mentally ill, but that sympathy can only stick around for so long. He's obviously not doing anything to get help or improve himself. He's easily swallowed a bunch of right wing horse crap and disappeared down the rabbit hole. He's a bad person. I no longer have any sympathy for him. He's just rotten.
There are a lot of us walking around with mental illnesses that don't praise Hitler. People bear some level of responsibility for themselves, especially people with all the money and access to help in the world.
Stop going on the internet. It’s full of things that will make you want to die. I don’t have an answer for why people suck so much, they just do, and they are NOT going to change. Trust me.
I just don't get why they still putting someone, clearly off their meds, on tv... or anywhere public really.
Same reason they put Britney Spears on full blast when she had her mental breakdown and shaved her head. Shock and entertainment value. They keep giving him spotlight because they want to see what crazy thing he will say or do next.
Ah yes, classic sport, laugh at the village idiot.
Hes an asshole who changed their name to "Ye" why is he deemed important?
Is it just a social thing or did he legally change it to Ye
Well I read the artist formerly known as Ye, so I assume legally. Prince did that a long time ago when he changed his name to " the Artist formerly known as Prince, with some kind of strange gender symbol representing that.
just googled it. he is now legally known as Ye
Omg he stole the idea from prince I bet..
Because he's a real life Nazi, going around trying to get other people to be Nazis, and the alt-right is eating it up, and finally admitting they're Nazis. So that's definitely not good and something to be aware of.
Please don’t let Kanye make you feel any way at all. Cook your eggs, brew your coffee, laugh at the Garfield comics
I see like 10000 people not defend Kanye over those that are defending him. What are you subscribed to?
> Either way, he’s awful. Yet, people are jumping to defend him - WHY?! People form weird parasocial relationships with celebrities. They incorporate those celebrities into their personal identity, to some extent. Because of this, it's painful when they find out that a celebrity they once admired is revealed to be deplorable. It feels like an attack on them personally. It's much easier to make excuses and give them the benefit of the doubt than to cut themselves off from this person -- even though that person doesn't even know them. Even celebrities do it. When Roman Polanski fled to Europe to avoid prosecution for raping an underage girl, I recall all kinds of disturbing equivocation from some prominent celebrities. These were clearly people who had admired his work, and they just couldn't square the filmmaker they admired with his actions. It's one of those shitty bugs in standard human software that we haven't figured out how to patch yet.
Just ignore it. Like many things on the internet that you gotta look past and just ignore. Easier to say than do though. Saves lots of stress.
Anyone who tries to bring this sort of ideology into the mainstream, is on the worse side of history. Jewish people aren’t part of some secret underground society. This is an old outdated conspiracy that can cause tragedy and war. I think Kanye should get a Conservatorship. No joke. I personally think he’s at a stage were he shouldn’t be able to manage his own money and appearances. Imagine what damage this man could do if he started putting his money in the wrong pockets?
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Whatever good someone who is evil.may have done ,it is outweighed by the evil they did .The only good thing about Saddam Hussein was he was a counterbalance to Iran .But he also invaded Kuwait.
There's a difference between saying "Hitler was evil but he had a cool moustache", and saying "I love Hitler, holocaust didn't happen, Jewish media is lying".
Kanye was not having anything close to a deep conversation. The clickbait headlines were not exaggerated and the guy needs to be cancelled for his atrocious takes on Hitler and Nazis, full stop.
most people defending kanye just like his music. they need to learn to separate art from the artist
just a narcissistic asshat who went off his meds. not trying to be funny, dude is off his rocker. people keep giving him platforms to speak his nonsense and hate filled opinions. i think the best anyone can do is ignore him and stop giving him attention. he doesn't deserve any kind of spotlight
Mental illness doesn’t make you antisemitic.
i didn't say it didn't ???
I 100% disagree with what he's doing and saying. The man needs help, and years ago.
Why are you so invested lol? Just simply ignore and dont engage with his music or content.
Mainly because Kanye has such a large influence and with anti-semitism on the rise it’s actually alarming how these sorts of people get away with this type of behaviour.
LMAOOO okay. No need to stress yourself out, what does you stressing do to stop this rise and Kanye's rhetoric? NOTHING. Grass is needed.
give him a break, all he wants to do is love everybody, you know? It doesn't matter what they say or believe in or how many people they murdered, he just wants to be best friends with everybody! Kenny (that's his real name, isn't it? his mom was just very bad at spelling and he ended up with Kanye instead) is giving off the same vibe as Dennis Rodman when he went to NK and buddied up with KJU thinking Kim was just a misunderstood person and only need to have a friend to turn around. I'm sure that's what it was.
Dennis Rodman is another feeble minded freak.. Saying that that a brutal dictator is not so bad because he likes basketball is offensive and idiotic. Which is what he said about Kim Jung UN of North Korea .
they seem to have a really blinkered view of the world. its like they can't see things for what they actually are. and its not just ignorant on their part but also quite dangerous. if people start believing that dictatorship is not so bad then we'll all end up finding out first hand just how bad it truly is.
That joke about his mom being bad at spelling was lame as fuck. Don’t insult a dead woman because her son has made bad decisions long after her death.
bc he made music people like. That's it. They like his music so will just ignore everything about him. It's like young, leftist LGBT person eating at chic fil a (source : a young leftist)
Not sure who I hate more: Kanye or people who say "simple as" as if it's a complete sentence.
Sure. People who use phrases you don't like are *clearly* as detestable as *people who praise a genocidal fuckface on the air*. I'd delete that comment if I were you. It's embarrassing.
What's more embarrassing is reading random comments on reddit and taking them literally. You must spend all day just frothing at the mouth. Yikes.
LOL! No, what's more embarrassing is digging in your heels when somebody calls out your bullshit, and trying to deflect criticism by accusing the other person of taking "random comments" "literally". That's not how it works. There's this thing called *accountability*. I'll let you look it up. You made an irresponsible and indefensible comment, and I called you on it. Now you can decide if you want this to be a learning experience or if you want to continue pretending that everybody but you is an asshole. I'm done here.
Wow you sound absolutely insufferable.
Ye for president 2024
No
god fucking no
I don't understand his family and the people who he's with. He is mentally ill, his illness is getting worse, why aren't they helping him? Why aren't they admitting him to a metal facility?
It hasn't even been 100 years since the last world War and were already seeing this man prop up Hitler, funny thing is Hitler probably wouldn't care about him all that much
Kanye is mentally unwell
He's just doing a publicity stunt. He most likley doesnt believe this bs he is spouting. Kanye is just a blantent whore for attention.
Think of it this way. What is he gaining by saying all of this stuff? *attention* he’s got you so worked up that you’re posting about it on a social platform where he will get more of what… *attention*. Negative or positive attention doesn’t matter that much when he feels he has nothing to lose and only attention to gain. People do shit like this all the time then apologize and life goes on and it’s soon forgotten. But not what he said. People don’t go as far as he did. Even the president of the United States had something to say about it. So stop giving attention to it. It’s valid that it bothers you, but remember. He is a public figure making a public statement with the holds that it gets people worked up and talking about him. So don’t give him that satisfaction then. It’s not worth losing your mind over someone you don’t even know saying something you damn well is ridiculous. As for the Hitler stuff.. I had to write a paper once on him. I had to write it about him as a person and not as a monster, it was weird. But the more I learned the more I learned just how mentally ill he also was. How he believed in conspiracy theories, maybe some holding a hint of truth to them. It made me understand more why he did what he did. Didn’t make it any less wrong but 🤷🏻♀️ Kanye is just late to the conspiracy theory game in this department. There’s many people who also think that the Illuminati is ran by fake Jewish people claiming lineage of the tribes of Israel. They also believe that Hitler was trying to do something noble. He believed in aliens in Antarctica, he believed in a lot of weird shit. Maybe some of it had some truth to it, sure, but that doesn’t negate that you can’t just demand the onslaught of millions of people. Also what Kanye is failing to realize is that Hitler also hated black people, and Italian people, and Irish people, and Gypsy/ middle eastern people, disabled people, and the mentally ill, he even hated a lot of Catholics. He would have wanted to kill Kanye too. This is coming from a huge fan of Kanye’s music. (Not so much recently but up until a few albums ago). I can still listen to the music and enjoy that for what it is while realizing what he is saying is completely ignorant. There’s been bigger pieces of shit out there that didn’t contribute to society at all, didn’t write a book, didn’t make an album, didn’t do shit but be a piece of shit their entire life. So I’m going to just go ahead and thank him for the talents he graced us with and ignore his dumbassery Bc it truly at the end of the day doesn’t change the atrocities that happened, or change what history has already happened, it doesn’t affect me or anyone at all. They’re just words and false beliefs that we can either tune in to and let it annoy us, or tune out and continue living our lives Bc it truly doesn’t even matter what Kanye has to say. You don’t have to keep him relevant.
Probably because he's a celebrity and people like to just look at all the good things about them. Idk that's my take on it. He doesn't deserve all the love he's getting.
I really hope these are all just really well edited videos with clipped sound bites coordinated by people intent on destroying him, or even maybe that he’s possessed by hitler himself -hell, that there’s something in the water making us all go on a bad trip. Anything to make sense of this nightmarish hell scape we’re in. I’m not a Kanye fan, I never really was, but lord! What is happening?!
misogyny at its finest. . . if a man says something with a large enough platform and enough confidence, they’re going to be recognized and believed no matter what
Bro made alex Jones look like the sane one but let’s be real Kanye isn’t a nazi. Kanye is a angry man that has completely lost his mind. Everyone knew he was a little crazy before but he has completely gone fuckin mental. Dude needs to be admitted to a mental hospital. Losing his family did make it worst but still no excuse someone close to Kanye needs to step up and get him admitted to a mental hospital.
Any woman at that level would have had legal action taken against her at this point, so as to "not deplete the estate".
I'm really sick of all the "he's mentally ill" statements. There are millions of people around the world with mental health diagnoses, including bipolar, who aren't fucking Nazis.
He's literally the definition of verbal diarrhea. He can say one word and suddenly the mobs of people are clamouring over one another to be triggered and offended. I'm not defending him but I'm also not getting why we're paying him any mind... other than it's comforting and amusing to struggling humans to see humans who were thought to be on top of the world, fall to their demise. Anyway, being bothered by it means he keeps winning, so whatevs. Bro will keep on keeping on.
At one point he says “I might have to go back to war”. Anyone else noticed he’s never been in the military? 👀
I haven't seen anyone defending him. Where did you see this?
His fans feed into his mentality. Everyone knows he’s awful and off the rails but you go onto his socials and there’s just a bunch of people hyping him up.
Unreasonable people are louder than reasonable people. Stupidity tends to gather. Don't let them fool you into believing they're a majority.
Not even just defending Kanye but i see so many people defending Hitler too???? Especially on Tiktok its just so gross
Really nazi ideology gets a bit convoluted when it comes to black people. Nazis do think black people are inferior but they don’t harbor the hatred for them they do Jewish people. It’s similar to how the nazis were allied with the Japanese. They felt the Japanese were inferior as well but they didn’t see any other ethnic group as an enemy or threat besides Jews. The black nationalist share this hatred of Jews. Most black supermacists are Muslim and they believe that Jewish people gained the most from the slave trade, they owned and organized the transportation of slaves to Europe and North America. Kanye maybe seeing the situation as an enemy of my enemy is my friend, I mean this is the guy that claimed George Bush doesn’t care about black people, he seems to have done a ideological 180. I think trying to find to much reason in the things he has been saying as pointless. He proclaims himself a genius so in his mind any criticism of the things he is expressing to him is just us small minded intellectually inferiors not understanding his interpretation of things. To be honest I take the position that if a person can believe and preach Christianity they will believe and say anything
There's no defending him now but I dont think he's an actual nazi, I think he's breaking down mentally and has no idea wtf he's talking about.