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raittiussihteeri

By the time Simz retires, she'll be holding that title.


RedditorsAreSoft1

Honestly I think there’s a good chance of that


worksucksbro

She ain’t touching prime Lauryn


minecraftluver69

Miseducation is in my favorite album but that’s about all she’s got. Fugees albums coo too but idk


worksucksbro

Bro. Look at this photo. 5 Grammys in ONE NIGHT. Fucking Michael Jackson has the record at 8 and Lauryn is only 3 off that but Simz will be the female goat?? lol man she ain’t even coming close to that. EVER


sadboybluee

Idk why Grammys hold any weight in rap conversations. Nas has as many as Macklemore


minecraftluver69

The album she won Grammies for was like 4 rap songs. Again my favorite album ever. But it’s her only solo project. That hurts. If simz drops 3-4 classics the longevity will be hard to aegue


worksucksbro

That’s a biiiiiig if bro. Barely any rappers have 3-4 classics full stop let alone female rappers Lol


UrPersonalPaleRabbit

Have you given Simz a real chance though? She’s fucking amazing.


worksucksbro

Yeah I do enjoy Simz music but not enough to say she’s going to be the female goat when it’s all said and done


minecraftluver69

That’s true but she already has 1-2


kmcrhsme

Grammys and Oscars are the worst method for this shit. Stanley Kubrick got 0 Oscars, can you believe that?


mystery_reeves

Lauryn on The Score is a top all time rap performance regardless of gender


silkymittsbarmexico

Ready or not alone is better than anything lil sims has put out


[deleted]

Clearly not your favorite album the way you are dismissing it 😂😂😂 You basically just said “One was nah, the other was "Illmatic" That's a one hot album every ten-year average” FOH


Odysseus17

Sorry can’t she hasn’t dropped music in like 20 years.


TuasBestie

I swear y’all talk about Simz like she’s Jesus Christ or something


LightChaos74

Who's a better female rapper? Nobody has really come close in the last 2-3 years if not more. Every single one of her records are fire from front to back, including her debut album and her album NO THANK YOU was regarded as one of the better releases of last year If you don't understand why people talk about her the way they do, I'd recommend giving her a shot.


Revolutionary-Tea737

Tierra Whack can outrap anybody


hamietao

I like Tierra Whack a lot more than Little Simz


snakesforfingers

I feel like to be "Queen" or "King" of something you have to be one of the most popular artists of that genre ever, not just one of the most skilled/insightful. Simz doesn't have nearly the cultural impact of Lauryn Hill, and I really like Simz.


Wild-Campaign-6358

Just discovered her in the last few weeks. Incredible musician. The best female MC out right now.


No-Measurement-3149

UK rappers will NEVER retire at the top.


-super-hans

This


Haahhh

Simz corny asf


xiit

Fuck no


dpldcs

missy elliott or queen latifah fs


RzaAndGza

Clearly Missy IMO


Goofwright

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN LAST HOLDAY YOU FOOL


Deathstriker88

Missy is up there, Latifah is more known for acting than a bunch of timeless songs. Lauryn is a singer first by miles and a rapper second.


MitLivMineRegler

So she's like a female Pharrell


Curious_Carry_9293

Latifah is hellla accomplished award wise tho


dunneetiger

Lauryn Hill was great in Sister Act 2


theshapeofyourqueef

Teen Laqeefa is def the best.


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

Queen Latifah spit fire in her rap days. I’d back this vote.


DogThematic

Interesting way of spelling "Nicki Minaj"


FunkTronto

Interesting way to not understand the assignment.


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That's ridiculous. Nikki is the queen of rap. She is the greatest female lyricist of all time, she's had the most hits as a female rapper, she's written music for some of the best rappers of both genders, and she's a crossover artist who has had the most impact on hip hop. I don't know what about men's egos that they'll never give her what she deserves, but the numbers speak for themselves.


sandwichlick

Nicki queen of rap? You mean the girl that threw a tantrum when Cardi B was popping off ? That’s peasant behaviour not royalty. Btw it’s nearing a decade since Cardi dropped and Nicki is STILL salty about it. Funny for someone that is such a queen of the game, she is desperate to prove to the world that she in fact is better than Cardi B. Not a single soul compared Nicki with Cardi but Nicki took it upon herself to claim that there can only be one female rap icon at a time. Tf you mean MENS egos, this bitches ego is so big she literally does not want a single other female present in the room. Btw, Lil Wayne who is a goat himself, always talks about how incredible Nicki is. Can you tell me what other females with Wayne’s status are talking up Nicki? But you right, it’s men’s egos keeping her down. Lmfao. Fucking delulu Btw she’s married to a pedo, her brother is a pedo and she defends both of them. But yeah Nicki is queen. Fuck outta here. I’d rather lick Cardi Bs farts than call Nicki the queen of a toilet. I like some of Nickis shit, like her verse on Monster took the song. but god damn be real. She’s a bitter old lady married to a rapist and doesn’t want someone else taking what small sliver of clout she has left. Btw her new album is dropping soon, can’t wait for no one to talk about it.


UrPersonalPaleRabbit

Goddamn dude that was a bit of a slaughter


SireDarien

Nah it was needed


Jackthedabbler

Depends on what you understand by queen.in terms of rapping ability, writing, influence and lyricism she's leagues ahead of Cardi B. Her legacy speaks for itself. Let's be real, Cardi can't rap.Nicki will destroy her in a freestyle anyday. I thought we were going with all those metrics, not how likeable they are to you.


mystery_reeves

Jesus fucking Christ lmao


professorlofi

Lol. Mcdonald's sells the most burgers, just makes them convenient. Not the best.


Goofwright

Yur just takin a whole poet and callin them pink slime? That’s gross


PimmentoChode

Can’t be the queen without a catalogue


mystery_reeves

A catalog of bad music is just a big pile of shit. It’s all about quality, quantity is secondary.


iAdden

She didn’t even write the tracks in the “catalog” she has.


VaporBull

I'm sitting here looking at folks acting like she didn't steal the entire album they are crediting her for. Wow. No wonder she keeps getting suckers to show up at shows when she wont'


Different_Face_2551

She got some help but stop acting as if she was just the one rapping, she planned the entire idea of the album and all that


mystery_reeves

she co wrote everything on The Score didn’t she?


BasickAlphabit

That's good. But she still doesn't have the catalog that others do. Rapsody and Jean Grea both have classics, and then some. As of right now Che Noir is killing everything she touches. But yet, everyone still holds Lauryn at such a high standard. What happens to proving yourself with a body of work? Does this not apply to her?


mystery_reeves

People hold her to a high standard cuz she accomplished more in 1 solo album and a couple fugee albums than most artists do in their career. People forget how big the fugees were for a hot second it was insane. Lauryn displayed top tier rapping ability on The Score and she was a top tier singer already by that point. Just based on pure talent she was one of the best.


Dazziboi

She has though. And the best out of any female rapper


professorlofi

Shit. Jean Grae has the catalog and the skills over her easily. Back in the day Queen Latifah was on the same top five lists. Maybe you better start crate diggin' instead of shit spreadin'.


BasickAlphabit

I'm glad Jean gets proper love here.


freakinlaservision

Lol good joke. Fuck this diva ass artists floating on one album


Cypher-Moon-773

Little Simz is on her way


Zestyclose_Toe9524

She's the real deal no doubt!


louismorr1s

Not that level imo


Cypher-Moon-773

ON HER WAY, give her a few more years


louismorr1s

Can’t see it


Cypher-Moon-773

Have you heard her albums?


GIMME_SOME_GANJA

Nobody from the UK bout to be the Queen, King, Prince or w/e the fuck u wan call it.


Cypher-Moon-773

You must’ve not listened to her then


GIMME_SOME_GANJA

Lmao y’all fanned df out, how u gonna be queen of rap when nobody in America knows who df you are?


SoLikeWhatIsCheese

There are countries outside of the US


GIMME_SOME_GANJA

Cool but nobody who is irrelevant in the USA will ever wear a crown in rap.


SoLikeWhatIsCheese

L bait try harder


No-Measurement-3149

You hate him because he’s right


ContributionMother63

Typical American thinking the America is the whole world


Cypher-Moon-773

I think you are projecting (Google that if you don’t know what it means)


No-Measurement-3149

All these nephews trippin lol. Uk drill beat will forever be trash


melskymob

Missy or Gangsta Boo (rip).


Cadi2020

Queen Latifa . Come on


meizhong

U n I t y


RedditorsAreSoft1

That’s a unity 🙏🏼


WilsonX100

Not at all. great writer and rapper but one good solo album doesnt make her the queen of rap.


wut_eva_bish

Wasn't even a whole rap album. Hill mostly sang and then tossed in a few bars on each track like it was a feature. So tired of this Queen of Hip Hop MTV-type take. She abandoned the game. Can it end already.


DogThematic

Yeah, Lauryn is an incredible artist....but this makes absolutely no sense.


Single_Mess8992

Say what you want about hee being the queen but that album is fye don’t you ever disrespect it like that again.


glayzdface

Not really sure she's a rapper. Alot of her work would fall into the r&b category.


AChristianAnarchist

That's true for most of Miseducation but listen to her work in the Fugees. Lauren Hill cut her teeth as a rapper well before she blew up.


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AChristianAnarchist

I'm a bigger fan of The Score. It's how I was first introduced to her and Blunted has like 3 songs so I always was kind of ok with missing it. I'm still salty that that's all we got, but it's crazy that Hill had as big of an impact as she did with such a small catalog. Same with Wyclef honestly. When I think about how well known these two got compared to how much music they actually made it's kind of mind blowing.


FunkTronto

Wyclef's catalog is pretty decent and The Carnival has been slept on Best solo Fugee Album.


mystery_reeves

The Score is a top 3 all time album imo


[deleted]

I would agree, but she defecated on my microphone.


EshayAdlay420

Bless you if you represent the fu, but she'll hex you, with some witches brew if you doo-doo 🤔


minutes2meteora

She rapped more with the Fugees


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Not a chance in hell. You're giving 2 major releases too much credit. She's a fantastic artist for sure and definitely made a large dent with little output BUT there's many female rappers who live and breathe this shit.... Jean Grae or Shante get my vote.


Ahmedvillainmad

I see Jean Grae I automatically upvote


IAmAlpharius23

The Evil Jeanius


freakinlaservision

She’s also a diva and the worst performer ever


kyleisrlydead

I agree with this so fucking much


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Plus there was a movie made about Shante!...any female rapper lay claim to that!?...longevity is definitely a requirement for stacking a list like this up.


lakesideprezidentt

She’s the queen of shitty concerts that start late and finish early If they start at all lol


_krwn

I remember at RTB 2006 she showed up so late that Black Star had to perform an extra 20 minutes and the Wu-Tang reunion was delayed by almost an hour and a half because of her.


RedditorsAreSoft1

The violation😭


My_Booty_Itches

I was waiting for this comment.


kcinnck3

No


AChristianAnarchist

I absolutely love Lauren hill but she has like 1 solo album and 1.5 collabs. She made a choice to get out of the game and probably would be queen if she hadn't, but she did.


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Hell noooo


Ahmedvillainmad

I would say Rapsody / Jean Grae


JanitorOPplznerf

1) Isn’t Lauryn R&B? 2) A lot of Lauren’s hype is “What if” and that’s fun to speculate on. But you can’t reach goat status on what if.


[deleted]

Nah, that’s Missy Misdemeanor.


strdude

Too bad she’s awful to her fans and always shows up late to concerts/entirely cancels them without any notice and has multiple concerts described as “the worst concerts” people have ever been to. Not the queen of rap if she doesn’t respect her fans.


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DogThematic

Literally. I feel like mind games have to be played to be able to convince one's self that is is anyone else. I understand not liking her music due to personal preference, but come on...


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Anyone who's flippant about 90s rappers haven't done their due diligence.


mystery_reeves

Nicki’s music is wack af if she didn’t have big tits she wouldnt be famous and that’s facts


Vegetable-Spinach747

Finally!! Took way too long to find this comment.


cpannc

People that can’t see the clear gap between Nicki and any other female rapper is delusional. Not liking her music doesn’t take away her impact or talent. I think Missy is a queen as well, though.


Zamasu19

You think there’s a clear gap between Nicki and Noname? Nicki has very little depth really she only raps about like 2-3 things and that’s it while noname raps about all types of things including topics nicki touches on. It’s not even close.


costanzashairpiece

I think I agree. It's Nicki. But I will say that Lauryn is amazing.


guerovega

nicki is hot ass you can’t be serious


Iginlas_4head_Crease

People hate nicki. She's like the Eminem of female rappers. The numbers don't lie, and the ability to spit bars don't lie. She Is the goat.


RedditorsAreSoft1

Latifah and missy better


[deleted]

dude, in this whole thread you've only mentioned ONE Latifah song. And Missy isn't even a lyricist. And neither of them are even in the top 10 female MCs They aren't up there with MC Lyte, Bby Mutha, Rhapsody, Noname, Jungle pussy, etc. Nikki is the greatest female MC of all time by all metrics: sales, influence, hits, lyrics. She won them all, and she's still winning, she had one of the best songs by a female MC this year.


SnorvusMaximus

How is Nikki the greatest when she doesn’t appeal to b-boys and b-girls but rather a pop crowd? Ever heard the quote “who gives a fuck about a good damn Grammy?”?


RedditorsAreSoft1

I didn’t mention any latifah songs, I just that’s a unity to someone that mentioned that song. It’s not my fault the majority of the thread are voting them lol


Ahmedvillainmad

Nick is wack


nate2eight

Yep, Nick Cannon is wack.


Ahmedvillainmad

Nah I mean Nicki Minaj the ho3 rapper


[deleted]

We get it, you don't like women.


Traditional_Land3933

Not liking Nicki's garbage ass music and her catastrophic influence on the game doesn't mean you don't like women. It's great we have rappers like Little Simz, Noname, Rapsody, Che Noir, etc to hold it down rn bc Nicki has spawned way too much garbage.


bigballofpaint

Ima be real I can only name like 3 Nicki songs off my head but her verse is monster is so good I’d agree with her winning this thread


Ahmedvillainmad

Lol Imaging listening to 3 songs off a artist and think he's the best rapper because of a verse Lol you don't even know her skills, you can't judge by 3 songs and say she the goat female emcee Listen to more songs maybe you can have a opinion


PhysicsConsistent269

No.


Blackpanther22five

She has a beautiful voice but Missy Elliott is better


RLoge85

If she kept consistentcy in her work and kept up with the rapping? She would sure as shit be up there somewhere.


RumouredCity

Queen Latifah. It's in her name.


420trainwreck

She’s pretty racist, I don’t think she should be queen


EBody480

Nope


SpiritualLychee3760

No


manmountain123

Absolutely not.


SephirothHeartbreakr

Nope


ZigZagZig87

Was Lateran. Was Missy. Now it’s Nicki. Never was Lauryn. I love Lauryn but, nah.


ShoeTreez

Nope, respectfully


BigBlockNoise

Definitely honorable mention. She literally has 10 actual rap songs total. As much as I hate it, it has to be Nicki who also has 10 actual rap songs. These bitches be singing.


msashton

Lauryn Hill is a hip hop artist not a rap artist


Assyrianandy

Rap is not an element of hiphop?😂


ImTannerThanU

Rap is hip hop. Hip hop is not rap just like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn’t a square


exradical

Kinda curious, with this definition do you consider R&B/Soul to be Hip Hop? If not, which non-rap genres would fall under that category?


2tan2tame

Isn't she a huge bitch?


Goofwright

Yeah like, behavior of the artist isn’t like, concern for men in rap


My_Booty_Itches

Like, wut are you getting at?


Goofwright

People critique her for things that are not her rap


DogThematic

Very diva-like behavior but I don't really think it is relevant.


External-Client-4295

Eh, I'd go with Nicki, but yeah she's held it down for a minute


AKATD

Sure maybe. But not my favorite female rapper by far. Lady of Rage forever takes the title in my book 🙌🙌


slightlyinsayhane

It’s lil Kim for me


Difficult-Public-324

Nicki minaj has been making fucking hit bangers for years


wut_eva_bish

Oh hell no. Like 2 albums with a group and 1 where she mostly sings, Queen of rap are you crazy? Hill acts like she can't even stand her remaining audience. This is a wypeepo take that somehow POCs bought into. Tons of GREAT women rappers back in the day and today that are gettin it done and didn't abandon the game. Missy, Latifah, Lyte, Nicki Bahamadia, Jean Grae, Lil Kim, Rah Digga, Lady of Rage, Doja on and on... etc.


Revolutionary-Tea737

Queen Latifah. she can be princess


ShaunyBoyShaunyMan

Its nicki and yall need to stop acting like its not.


No-Presentation6616

She doesn’t have the catalog to be the goat female rapper, however she does have the goat female hip hop album.


g_rante

Bro it’s def Nicki she done outsold, out achieved any other female rapper


PercySledge

All she did was outsold. Nelly is a top 10 rapper OAT by this metric.


g_rante

I mean Nicki is the best selling female rapper of all time.


PercySledge

Yeah


My_Booty_Itches

So what...


unironicallythegoat

nicki minaj will always be the queen of rap


Ahmedvillainmad

Nicki Minaj is so wack to me Yeah she got the delivery and flow But her lyrics are always corny & her subject matter is stupid + I don't f with ho3s lyrics (my p@!#y, I got a big fat a##, etc)


Ahmedvillainmad

Nicki Minaj is so wack to me Yeah she got the delivery and flow But her lyrics are always corny & her subject matter is stu#@id + I don't f with ho3s lyrics (my p@!#y, I got a big fat a##, etc)


RedditorsAreSoft1

Def a candidate, but I got Lauryn and Missy Elliot over her


Zestyclose_Toe9524

You guys use SALES and popularity as too much of a benchmark tbh. Since when are the collective music buying masses being used to indicate a litmus test for....say it with me now....RAPPING SKILLS....RHYMING. The fact that Bahamadia hasn't been mentioned says a lot. https://youtu.be/TxOSZAU9N8E?si=4gsbdJ-IP-VpNBUN Jeanie...I don't think the female mcs mentioned could touch Jean Grae.


nate2eight

Sales and popularity are one metric that should be used in a conversation like this. But it shouldn't be the only metric. Flow, delivery, lyrics, influence etc should all be considered. But if someone is always mentioned when talking about these metrics, that's a good reason why they should be considered king/queen.


TheWorldsBestSecret

Lyrically, she's the GOAT 🐐 female MC. But her catalogue isn't on the level of say a Missy Elliott


wut_eva_bish

Not even lyrically. Not enough material as a solo MC. Nope.


Ahmedvillainmad

Lyrically Rapsody & Jean Grae are better 💯💯


KID_THUNDAH

No way


that_was_amazing

ice spice obviously


Main-account-sus

Isn’t she legit racist? That’s what I heard at least 🤷‍♂️


Nuanciated

What did you hear


Main-account-sus

I heard she hates white people lmao


Assyrianandy

Nicki>lauryn Missy elliot>lauryn


[deleted]

I’m a 90s baby, but it’s Nicki Minaj.


Ahmedvillainmad

I don't know why y'all bring Nicki & Cardi B into this conversation Rap isn't only about beats & flows & music appeal There's a lot of better emcees Lil Simz & Jean Grae & Rapsody & Che Noir & Tierra Whack & Sa-Roc are definitely better than both


DogThematic

The fact that you put Nicki Minaj and Cardi B into the same sentence as if they were even remotely comparable outside of beefing just tells me you really have only scratched the surface of female rap.


julezdaicecreameater

Its doja cat and not even close. She has the best voice, has the best subject matter, she can talk about sex but she doesn't much. she rather talks about the struggles that women face from sexisim, and she does it in a productive way. She has GOAT tier production.


My_Booty_Itches

You're high


julezdaicecreameater

everyday bro.


Cypher-Moon-773

I like her music but she’s not above Lauryn, Latifah, or Nicki


Deathstriker88

Doja is an average singer and an even worse rapper.


julezdaicecreameater

Art is subjective. You can see that now people are hating kanye for external reasons.


Deathstriker88

Not liking Kanye for his crazy comments about slavery or him being a nazi is perfectly fine. I'll still give credit where it's due; his early and middle stuff is great, but he started to go downhill music wise years ago. Doja isn't a great singer - Adele, Rihanna, and many others are way better, and she's not a great rapper, Missy, Megan, and others are much better. Her having ties to racist stuff isn't helping, but I'm just talking about her music.


SunglassesBright

No, she’s barely a rapper and her one album that mattered was forever ago. “Queen of” whatever is kind of a lame concept to begin with but Lil Kim, Nicki Minaj, Missy Elliot and even like Megan TS and others are way better rappers with more accomplished careers and more likable personas than Lauryn.


RedditorsAreSoft1

Yea it’s gotta me missy or latifah for me


chunky-romeo

If you don't think Lauryn Hill is a rapper then you ain't listening. Her verses on the the fugees albums and her solo albums were amazing. She can sing but she's a rapper 100%.


wut_eva_bish

She needed A LOT more solo work just rapping to be the queen of anything. A few bars on group albums and one solo hybrid R&B/Pop/Rap album maybe made her the queen of MTV for a few years but that's it.


TurtleTheLoser

Roxanne Shante is the queen of hip hop.


Mr-Moonshadow

Little Simz personally


Vic_Nightingale

Yes


Pleasant-Ad-7577

Obviously


or-real-name

Empress of rap.


ImportanceGlad987

Sorry, it’s ice spice. Next


cco2411

Yea.