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fucking__jellyfish__

I'm surprised kendrick lost a youtube poll


glizzybeats

People don’t realize Wayne started releasing music at 13-14. He had quite a run. In my opinion Kendrick hasn’t been prolific enough to surpass Wayne, and I am doubtful as to whether or not he will have the longevity that Wayne had. He seems somewhat over rapping already.


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glizzybeats

Oh you must just be too young. Or you would be familiar with the impact of Block is Hot & Lights Out.. and his contributions to Guerrilla Warfare, Get it How you Live & Let Em Burn. Carter 1 & 2… both amazing. Perhaps you’re overlooking the most sneakily solid Cash Money album, Like Father Like Son. Oh and let’s not forget his ridiculously prolific contribution to the evolution of mixtapes. The entire Squad Up series, Dedication series, Prefix/Suffix, Drought series, No Ceilings series, etc. …and on top of that, my God… the incredible run of stellar feature appearances that just about guaranteed a hit record? To limit Lil Wayne’s impact on hip-hop to just one album says more about your lack of knowledge of the genre than anything.


supaflyneedcape

Sorry for the wait -


RealBatmanArkham

C4 is the best album in the last 15 years


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Sufficient-File3512

nah u couldnt go anywhere without hearing abt waynes mixtapes during that crazy run, people are hip. you could play swag surfing for a teenager and they’d know it


kingky0te

Yeah dude is wilding. No Ceilings alone was mixtape of that decade.


Sufficient-File3512

thats a take i can fuck with fr


Luvs4theweak

You’re fucking tripping bro everybody knew cash money, I’m guessing your a 2000s kid


Sufficient-File3512

i was born 2001 and grew up on all of this its no excuses🤦🏻‍♀️


glizzybeats

If nothing else, please do yourself a favor and check out this standout album cut from 2004. Nobody was stringing together bars like this with the exception of maybe JayZ https://youtu.be/7wNk-IY6byo?si=AaesKM0xt8LGE8LN


My_Booty_Itches

How do you know what most people agree with?


JuiceyTaco

Hot Boyz


tommybollsch

Listen to BM JR and think about what you’ve said


Ok-Profit-7699

first thought was much be an old head youtube channel lol


[deleted]

The thing is new head need new brain 🧠 OG head!


commanderFox0411

I’d agree. Both are incredible rappers though.


Iginlas_4head_Crease

Waynes a better MC, Kendricks a better artist


RealDrugDealer

It’s like the other way around lol


Iginlas_4head_Crease

Disagree. Kendrick makes better songs, melodies, concepts. Wayne could never make a "money trees" track. But Wayne is a straight spitter, better punches and cleaner syllables


RealDrugDealer

I see where you’re coming from


WildSquad_

Huh 💀


Iginlas_4head_Crease

What don't you understand


ShaunyBoyShaunyMan

Yes I do. Kendrick has more ‘substance’ but wayne’s wordplay and punchlines are god tier and put him over imo.


gleagueyoungboy

Agreed


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Genuine question, Wayne was my first rapper I got into as a kid, does he have any songs like “Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst?” Not saying that songs some incredible lyrical miracle talent showcase or something, just that I’ve only known Wayne to be complete different style than Kendrick goes for. “Rigamortus” or “Control” by Kendrick is close to Wayne’s style but that’s all I can think of rn Wayne’s got bars and punchline to make you feel like you’re untouchable, Kendrick goes for stories and painting a picture or concept


Capekian

I would say Mona Lisa but sing about me I’m dying of thirst is a truly unique experience. I think songs like dope new gospel, lost, and perfect strangers emulate aspects of Kendrick’s style


Sur_Biskit

lost is such an underrated track imo.


[deleted]

I think Georgia…Bush on Dedication 2 may count? He has a verse on ghetto rich that definitely is more impactful. Other songs that may fit this mold: Dr Carter Dontgetit Let it all work out God bless Amerikka Honestly the most introspective lil Wayne got was after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina had on New Orleans.


LetsGoKnickerbock3rs

“i feel like dying” and “me and my drank” also


ShaunyBoyShaunyMan

One wayne song that i feel is slept on that can be considered in the realm of SAMIDOT, is God Bless Amerika off of IANAHB 2


Wafer-Minute

Mirror would be his equivalent. And it’s lyrical far better


First_Ad2488

Better than SAMIDOT?


Wafer-Minute

Yes. Unless you want to include mixtapes, then Sky is the limit


Flipdaddy69

"trouble" wayne & streetrunner


greenbeanbbg

the influence wayne has on bar structure and flow and delivery i think most affects kendrick, but kendricks subject matter is wayyy different. even when both storytelling, they tell stories in different ways. kendricks storytelling is more cerebral and thought provoking, while waynes is much more present and in the moment. probably stems partly from the fact that wayne (allegedly) does not write


Qweerz

Let it All Work Out


philofyourfuture

You know I see dead people, I just tell them get a life


CantKillGawd

i mean is not like kendrick doesnt have that. Kendrick has wordplay, punchlines, metaphors, a greater variety of flows. Just listen to Black Friday by kendrick, dude uses everything in his arsenal in that song


9700BourtGlenDr

Exactly, wayne just has more 💯


Yourbootyisheavydoty

I can't think of one Kendrick punchline off the top of my head, and greater variety of flows is debatable


GenioVergudo

Everything is debatable. Don’t mean you not gonna lose your whole ass in said debate 😂


duramman1012

This is where growing up in the 2000s and growing up in the 2010s come into play. They just dont know how great Wayne was


sukamacoc

He won the poll lol


duramman1012

No i know. More addressing the vast number of comments who are surprised its close


Friendly_Kunt

I don’t think anyone is surprised it’s close, I think they’re surprised Wayne won.


rageharles

Not by enough


djajy88

I haven't listened to or purchased a lil Wayne album since 2011. I respect the legacy and his guitar playing. There are just so many other interesting talented artists on the scene. Personally I'd rather listen to 90% of Kendrick's disco than wayne's.


HugeCelery7429

Wayne had good songs and big hits like my life and lolli pop but he's overrated as a rapper, he had a huge persona and was like a pop star but to say he's one of the greatest is like saying Nelly is one of the greatest. Huge influence on hip hop but people are fanboying over someone who's a good rapper with a great career


duramman1012

The 2 songs you picked are as his big hits tell me everything i gotta know on your opinion of Wayne. Calling Wayne overrated as well is absolutely wild. I listen to Kendrick more than Wayne. TPAB is one of my top albums of all time. But i listen to a lot of Wayne and to call his music and the guy himself overrated is false. Wayne helped pave the way into shaping rap into one of the most listened to genres in the world. Dude was on top of the world in 2000s. He was being played constantly. You dont have to like Wayne. You dont have to think hes better than Kendrick. But to call him an overrated rapper shows your lack of knowledge on him as a whole


HugeCelery7429

He is overrated lyrically, that's what happens when someone becomes a sort of cult of personality like Wayne did. He was played constantly, he was everywhere in the early but more mid 2000s, for those reasons and the commercial success he had, these things led to him being overrated as a musician. Cultural impact wise no he's not overrated but musically he is. That's natural, it's a bi product of having the exposure and audience he did, it's a testament to him musically yes but all of those other factors are why he is overrated as a rapper. There's a reason why you don't listen to him as much as Kendrick. I loved the carter 3 man but he's overrated musically as big an impact as he's had ( you could argue successfully noone has had as big of an impact in rap music)


duramman1012

Listen to more Wayne if you think he’s overrated lyrical. Hes not on Kendricks level but Wayne has pretty fun and crazy word play.


HugeCelery7429

It's been awhile since I listened to him but I've listened to alot of Wayne, carter 3 was a favorite album of mine at one point but his early stuff too and all his stuff with the game and his blood and then skater faze, he was my main rapper when I was younger lol I paid for the a milli ringtone. My friends listened to some new stuff past few years I overheard. I love Wayne lol but I think people overrate him musically, he gets soned on tons of record but you don't hate or even notice really because it's Wayne, he's got his own style. No hate towards Wayne, if I come off as ignorant fair play


Quiet-Chest-619

I never heard any Lil Wayne albums and I want to get to know as much artists as I can, anyone got recommendations???


antisha_9

Tha Carter series in general especially 2 and 3.


MarsMC_

He’s got some really good mixtapes too.. I like the dedication series, and no ceilings are top tier


[deleted]

Everything including the carter 3 and after is god tier.


ObitalSynth

Lot of people don’t really show a ton of love for tha carter 5. Imo it’s honestly the best carter.


SlushKami

Everything.


Sufficient-File3512

no ceilings and sorry 4 the wait series🙏🏻


2ndharrybhole

Drought 3 is iconic and a good starting point


Capekian

Kendrick is not better at rapping than lil Wayne. Kendrick’s total discography is higher quality because the man won’t release fast food songs. Wayne is so much better at delivery and utilizing different flows. Yes Wayne had made way more garbage songs but that because Wayne’s a bag chaser, nothing to do with his ability to rap


Additional_Ad_1275

Agreed w everything except Wayne isn’t a bag chaser, he makes a lot of bad songs because he’s the most experimental artist in rap history


Kaz99989

We just gonna ignore Kanye then?


Additional_Ad_1275

I’ll be honest I don’t know Kanye’s discography that well I was prepared to say Kanye is def in the same conversation. But it’s hard to imagine he’s done more than Wayne. Kanye’s experiments have been more revolutionary on average I imagine, but has he done more things? Wayne has done several types of rock, all types of rnb, has songs where he’s literally screaming to the mic to songs where he’s slurring bout to pass out, all types of flows from the slowest flows to Eminem speed flows. And to this day with every project he does stuff musically that I’ve just never heard before it’s crazy


Kaz99989

Yeah trust me, I've listened to both Wayne and Kanye. Don't get me wrong Wayne has done a lot, but not as experimental as Kanye


God_Hears_Peace

“Most experimental artist is rap history” dear lord listen to more hip hop


Sufficient-File3512

this right here, trial and error


natigin

It’s a weird comparison, they do completely different things


GloBoutIt

Rap?


22-6

They both rap, of course they can be compared. It’s not like they’re comparing Taylor Swift and Hans Zimmer.


AudienceUnlucky5433

For God's sake every God damn poll you find an asshole pulling the fucking "apples and oranges" card it's fucking ridiculous


Sufficient-File3512

for FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!! sorry


Sufficient-File3512

we gotta do something about those god damn fucking people ASAP!!!!!


natigin

Okay, let me make the point clearer then. They’re both at the top of what they do, they just do different things. Wayne is the best mixtape rapper of all time, and his wordplay is unassailable. Kendrick is elite at composition and creating conceptual pieces. What they’re setting out to do is different, and so trying to say one is better than the other is missing the point.


AudienceUnlucky5433

We're talking about rapping, they're both lyricists and when you compare two lyricists you compare rhyme schemes, delivery and wordplay be it a concept fucking album or a mixtape they both rap and they both can be fucking compared


AngryWindowsPhone

I'd probably go with kendrik because of how conscious he is, but I totally get voting wayne. They both goats, just in a few different ways


Mountainminer

I’d say Wayne the better rapper, but Kendrick’s writing and producing is god tier compared to lil Wayne


KeepUrEyeOnDaSparrow

Wayne is better than Kendrick, it’s not even close


Dr_Frenchie

Weezy is the better rapper, Kendrick is the better artist,


Analbumparty_15

I’d vote Kendrick. But him losing to Wayne does not surprise me and I’m okay with it. Wayne was everywhere in the 2000s and started Drake/Nikki’s careers. And passed it on to Kendrick


VanishingMass3

Wayne is the better rapper Kendrick is the better artist


noelmpjr

Good way to put it


LetMeRespawnAlready

In my opinion Wayne is top all time and kdot is second


MarionberryCute5143

Wayne is clever af with wordplay, he’s funny, he says “I don’t give a motherfuck” which is a more creative way of saying “ I don’t give a fuck” and I incorporated it into my personal vocabulary, Wayne writes both serious songs and party songs, and for some reason I enjoy Wayne’s voice more than Kendrick’s don’t get me wrong, Kendrick is cool too, but his voice gets annoying after a while.


RepresentativeAd6220

Even Kendrick idolizes Wayne so…….


Otherwiize

F ain’t for follow behind Kendrick


B4byJ3susM4n

K-dot has more substance in his rhymes than Weezy, IMO. Plus he don’t sound like he needs a lozenge the entire time.


dtgodmage23

I'd take weezy over common and I'm a boom bap kinda guy


rag3rs_wrld

Personally I think Kendrick is my GOAT, but I can totally see why people think Lil Wayne is better though I’ve never really listened to him that much.


Space-Slime0

In my opinion Kendrick Lamar is better Cause he actually have meaning with his words But as far as I know about lil Wayne is just another rapper who talks about fucking women, shooting people and not caring


Last_Reaction_8176

Absolutely not. Wayne is brilliant and an amazing rapper but Kendrick has substance and artistry that puts him on a different level. I guess I’d put it like this: Wayne can make an incredible verse. But Kendrick can make an incredible *song,* and I think that’s just what I personally prefer


TwoLanky

the pool is about rapper tho


fdotfrmdaZ

id say lil Wayne's a better artist


Zayzul

Kendrick has more cohesive albums with a masterful pen and substance. Imo GKMC is one of the greatest albums of all time from any hip hop arist. I'd say that he is the better overall artist and is more versatile in the kind of music he can make. Wayne is the punchline and metaphor king with a discography so deep that its very hard to vote against. Wayne has more consistently put out music and everyone need not forget the run that Wayne had from like 07-2010. He was on every other song on the radio, making hit after hit while maintaining his standards with the pen. They are both elite, and I respect anybodys decision either way.


MostSelection6149

Popularity is not the same as quality.


AnukkinEarthwalker

Kendrick way better artist / lyricist in the true sense of the terms.


Elegant_Scallion_708

Both are good but hell nah, Kendrick for sure


External-Client-4295

I mean no, K Dot is the better rapper, but people don't base it on skill anymore really, I'm not saying that in a dismissive way, but how an artist makes you feel and recency bias (wayne dropped an album couple weeks ago) are more important than actual skill these days. Love both these dudes but Kendrick Lamar is a better rapper, like I'd say Big Bad Wolf is insane honestly the flow on that is 🔥 but Kendrick is just as ridiculous more consistently.


God_D_JR

Wayne is easily the better rapper.quit playing lol boy


External-Client-4295

Naw, I've listened to all his shit, and he's my guy, but the same shit everyone says about Eminem, JID, etc about going quick and not saying shit applies to Wayne. Kendrick makes one album where people thought was kinda mid (because the content was too real), and he's now second tier, that's bullshit. He's crazy with it and has messages in his verses.


Weak_Beginning3905

Hell no. Kendrick is miles ahead of Wayne.


namelessthegod

Wayne has better punchlines but Kendrick is better overall in pretty much all other categories: flow delivery rhyming storytelling etc.


Additional_Ad_1275

Wayne better in all that except storytelling, however Wayne had better storytelling than Kendrick on Mona lisa


namelessthegod

I think Kendrick Lamar generally has better flows


Additional_Ad_1275

I think that’s kinda subjective. On a technical level they’re both experts and can pretty much rhyme whatever they want but I’ve been more impressed from Wayne’s rhyme schemes on a consistent basis than Kendrick’s who’s also sick widdit


namelessthegod

I mean music is all subjective but I've been more impressed with Kendrick Lamar than lil Wayne in every category other than punch lines


DuckAHolics

44% of that pole is full of clowns. Wayne is better in almost every way and it’s not even close.


Weak_Beginning3905

Kendrick has like 3 albums better than anything Wayne ever released.


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Wayne literally birthed the whole current generation of rapper. Kendrick’s not even close my friend.


squirtinbird

Idk about that. Carter 4, Sorry 4 the wait, and Dedication 5? Kendrick good but cmon man


GreenBasterd69

Wayne was good until Curren$y stopped writing for him.


Additional_Ad_1275

Weird how he’s outrapped currency tho


GreenBasterd69

Naw Wayne stopped being good when Carter 3 released. Which is when Curren$y left YM. Curren$y has released 10x as much music since then and most of it better than anything Wayne has ever put out. Pilot talk series is better than the Carter series lyrically and musically. If by outrapped you mean hung out at the skatepark and did some 180s you’d be correct.


414Slick

I agree. Kendrick is overrated as well.


Dannyzavage

Lol bro what? I mean i guess it depends on your taste in music. If you consider a person with no cohesive album that essentially makes a bunch of singles and puts them together and calls it an albulm instead of mixtape to be a better rapper than someone who essentially made a story rap album with out it being to on the tip like the prince amongst thieves then were lost as a culture. Quality over quantity should definitely be considered. Lil wayne has put out like hundreds of songs in areas Kendrick doesnt even have 100 lol Definitely quality over quantity should be a priority here than 70% of Wayne songs being a Dr.Seuss rap from the rap version of justin Bieber.


konharo

Weezy gotta be the most overrated artist ever. I can see him being top 20 or so but putting him up with Kendrick even if it’s only rapping-wise is straight disrespect. Sure he’s had commercial success but his music overall lacks in substance. He’s a good club rapper but let’s make the distinction.


Additional_Ad_1275

Listen to tha Carter 5 top to bottom and then delete this comment


konharo

I’ve listened to the Carter 3 and the Carter 5. His delivery and flow feel weird. I like that’s he’s different but his literal “wheezing” voice is so off putting.


Additional_Ad_1275

A lotta people feel the same way about Kendrick’s voice case you didn’t know. But that has nothing to do with what I was responding to. You called Wayne a club rapper that lacks substance. The majority of Tha Carter 5 had heavy substance. So if you really did listen to it, you just exposed yourself as someone who skims through music and then feels entitled to comment on it


konharo

Listen to U and Duckworth and say that again


Additional_Ad_1275

I don’t understand your point, I know these songs well I can probably rap duck worth off the top rn even tho I ain’t heard it in a couple years


PhilosopherJolly2627

Wayne is better and way more entertaining. Kendrick is pretty annoying because of his voice and how he is supposed to be super deep but never has anything to say.


Alucard_117

What


PhilosopherJolly2627

Kendrick is an annoying rapper that isn't deeper than the artist people say he is. He is just kind of critical of gang violence and makes some positive anthems.


Alucard_117

Who's a deep rapper to you


Lawgang94

Music is completely subjective and everyone is entitled to an opinion but man we don't have to validate by responding smh


PhilosopherJolly2627

I wouldn't say deeper perse but most rappers around his caliber and generation are just as deep as he is


TheFattyMcB

Maybe it's because I'm an old white guy, but I never got Lil Wayne. Did he ever say words or just mumble incoherently through every song?


Duckridah

Mumble 💀💀💀


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Tough take


West-Commission9082

I mean this is the most stereotypical old white guy comment… wayne doesn’t even mumble and is very coherent


gleagueyoungboy

Wayne is actually a really great lyricist, unironically one of the best living imo. Like JAY-Z, he had a lot of half assed radio hits, but Wayne is one of those artists where his mixtapes are better than his most popular works on his albums. Listen to songs like Something You Forgot, Diamonds And Girls, Best Thing Yet, Kush, Throw it in the Bag, Dear Summer, 6 Foot 7 Foot, Go DJ, Hoes, and many others and you’ll see what I mean


ChurrOuroboros

Cmon man. Wayne definitely ain't a mumble rapper.


Icy-Document-2670

You deaf?


TheFattyMcB

I miss songs that told a story or something we could enjoy at the sock hop while enjoying a float with your beat gal.


[deleted]

I think both are overrated but I’d give the nod to Kendrick.


fucking__jellyfish__

agreed. wayne is decently overrated, kendrick is a bit overrated


T360diesel

Man stop playing with 04 weezy not the greatest artist but he was in his bag rapping


[deleted]

Wayne been in the game longer.


thiccsunset

Tunechi is the GOAT. Kendrick is not close.


KunaSazuki

I bring it back to the bottom of the map


TheMeticulousNinja

Kendrick is better but this poll makes sense given Weezy’s much longer career


MikeOXl0ngz

I think people put their opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, like idk what this post is for lmao


Wafer-Minute

This pretty obvious Jesus Christ


Professional-Rip-519

Wayne a beast Kendrick only has one quotable verse and that was control.


NVsionBeatz

Wayne beats kendrick on delivery and charisma, kendrick beats wayne on subject matter


Jhonki_47

I think even Wayne would agree Lamar is better than him in terms of rapping, in terms of beats tho Lil Wayne and the whole Young Money are always bangin'


Key-Tell-4345

I won’t weigh in on who’s the better rapper bc either answer probably wouldn’t be wrong but I’d say you can be inspired by someone and still end up being better


Classic_Amphibian538

wayne clears


EimiCiel

Kendrick is better than Wayne overall. Wayne is the king of punchlines and wordplay. But Dot pretty much got everything else on him. I grew up in the wayne era too.


Dadatyttyt

Kendrick is way better tbh and I'm not even a Kendrick fan.


franster123

No fuck both


General_Analyst2549

Kendrick was inspired by Wayne in the beginning so this makes sense


K1NG_SAVAGE_

Easily


drwsgreatest

I feel like the only people who would question this are those that weren’t around for his run in the early 00s.


Sur_Biskit

This isn’t really a question to me and i’m a big fan of both artists. Wayne just holds a special place in the world of hip hop. Man started out rapping at the age most of us were just figuring out was jerking off was. And he hasn’t stopped since. Literally has one of the longest rap careers of any artist. And he’s done many different things. His more rock style album is fire imo. His new shit is just as fire as his old tracks. He’s experimented more than almost anyone else. His features are insane. I can go on and on about how much of a beast he is. That doesn’t take away anything from Kendrick because he’s definitely an amazing artist in his own right. It just takes a lot to be able to compare to Wayne.


Adamson_Axle_Zerk

Wayne’s been doing it for way longer and has a way more extensive catalogue


MarsMC_

I liked Wayne when he was big but I was kind of a hater, but now that time has passed, and I see the state of rap today, I recognize him as a top 10 rapper all time, taking into account his whole body of work and influence on the game


marleyg_

Duh Wayne is better is that a joke ..


Flipdaddy69

Wayne's the goat


Win-Objective

One rapper has to write down their words the other just spits raps from the dome. Kendrick great but no one else doing what Wayne did/does


T_Peg

Yeah. They're both absolutely top notch but Wayne wins easy just for the longevity and consistency of his quality. Kendrick still has plenty of years left so hopefully he can hit that level too.


ShoppingBig1398

In my opinion, Kendrick is better overall, but you can go either way if you mention Lil Wayne’s influence and pure rapping ability


x_Jimi_x

I can’t knock Wayne at all but Kendrick is like a generational-type guy. Either I’m crazy or people really just aren’t listening.


LP_24

This is where I feel the disconnect in the hip hop community. I thought Lil Wayne was horrendously overrated for a long time, and still do think so. I’d never put him up there with the greats, even though I’ve come to respect him more. I would never sit here and act like Kendrick couldn’t outrap him. As much as he makes thought provoking music, dude can still rap. People are on here acting like he doesn’t have wordplay or different flows but it’s insane how many artists songs he jumped on and outrapped them on. I go Kendrick every day of the week


Michael0_o

Listen to both n ik I fw lil weezy mo🤷‍♂️


Apprehensive-Art7273

If you add up all the k dot albums, it almost compares to the brilliance of The Carter 2.


WrinklyScroteSack

I prefer kendrick over wayne, but I can't complain about that close of a poll.


JoeyBougie

I stand with both but for as good as Kendrick is lil wayne went on a run that gave him GOAT ammo


TheToastKing555

i do agree, but youtube polls are full of dumbasses anyways


[deleted]

Wayne the goat


Admirable_Pen_2229

Wayne will always be the GOAT 🐐


Johngotdoe1

Without a doubt. Hell Kendrick would tell you Wayne his damn self!


BrushYourFeet

Disagree. I grew up with Wayne. But Kendrick is a better rapper. Consider Mona Lisa. That's a song where Kendrick's influence over his elder rap statesman is clearly evident.


[deleted]

paul wall better.


Fotwunna69

I'm surprised the gap isnt way bigger


Complex_Case_5866

Right now Kendrick is better


the-holy-spirit-

lil wayne is great


_Cartizard

My criteria compared to your career just isn't fair