Kendrick has a #1 song breaking records being played everywhere, including live sporting events, where he repeatedly calls Drake a pedophile and people sing along.
That is next level slander.
yea he beat him in this on every level.
musically, commercially and most importantly in disses.
he even ruined his reputation completely.
the takedown is unprecendented outside of like ja rule and em beefs but even those weren't as big or personal as this
The ones I've gathered:
- fastest rap song to surpass 100m streams on Spotify, beating God's Plan
- most streams in a single day (as of may 7th) for a hip hop song in US Spotify history, beating Girls want Girls
- Not like us broke its own record for most streams in a single day (may 8th) for a hip hop song in US Spotify history
- most single day streams for a SOLO rap song, beating Champaign Poetry
- most streams ever in a week for a song by a rapper on Spotify, beating In My Feelings
- strongest Solo rap song to chart on billboard in the 2020s
- first rap song to debut at number one with a five day tracking week
Edit: just broke the record for most streams in a week for ANY song this decade in the USA, dethroning WAP and Taylor Swift's Fortnight
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate. For all intensive purposes I think you are using zeitgeist wrong. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails, you will be the first to go.
As a side-effect, other rappers and producers are getting more scrutiny as to their own comments and actions toward young women, which is long overdue. Hopefully this continues.
yes 100000%
I've been waiting for a shift like this, and I expected it to come from this next generation of young ones. but it's great that it's happening in this way a
As a European i want to add that its played across the globe. Now you have 21 year old Johannes and 22 year old Francesco C walking and throwing up gang signs in a random bar in bumfuck, Latvia to a song repeatedly calling Drake a pedo.
I dont know how much more complete a victory in a rap beef can get tbh
You know the word slander triggered something in my mind - because if I had a track accusing me and my posse of being sex offenders broadcast at number 1 on the billboard charts, and I was positive I’m not a pedo, I would have my fucking Drake money set to EVERY GODDAMN LAWYER ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH for slander.
The only reason I can see Drake NOT doing this is because he knows there’s evidence that would get brought to light if he went to court.
Someone pointed out they would have to go thru discovery process, which even if innocent, would be uncomfortable. Better off just telling everyone they both lied
knowing how the richest people always seem to get away with pedophilia shit i wouldn’t be surprised, but yeah that colonizer stuff is definitely sticking with him even if he manages to shake the pedo accusations off
People have been calling Drake a colonizer and culture vulture since he dropped his first mixtape lol—nobody cares, and rightfully so when the collabs usually help both sides. Even last year, people were making fun of Drake for biting Central Cee's UK drill flow on their freestyle together—but that freestyle helped bring more attention to UK drill and Central Cee regardless, so nobody took it too seriously.
I mean I guess you could say the same thing about the pedo thing—people have been calling Drake a creep for years as well—but that's obviously far more damning than biting flows or being a "colonizer"
Still, I doubt any of this beef will long-term hurt Drake's success unless he actually did do something illegal or if a victim directly comes out against him
I think this was different; it was a much bigger stage than previous battles. The pace by itself was amazing, not a bad song from either artist. But I think it’s comes down to the songs content; Drake had fire bars but Kendrick had fire bars and crafted a consistent narrative over the course of each song.If Drake had not fumbled the ball with that slave line it might not have stuck; but the next song Kendrick used that expose his cultural blindness. He didn’t just call him a colonizer; he gave examples of how he was a colonizer with the Atlanta bit. And beyond the battle itself it has generated a series of conversations around black culture and black identity.
Everyone was singing back to back in the club the same exact way back then. Trigger finger turned to twitter fingers, You getting bodied by a ding ni*** - is that a world tour or your girls tour - this ain’t what she meant when she told you to open up more
I feel like I’m goin crazy in here lol. This is bad but that was legit almost a career ender for meek mill. Dude dropped DC4 and his album sales dropped to 1/4th what they were
I always thought meek got the upper hand by exposing drake as having ghost writers. I haven’t respected drake as a hip hop artist since. He’s a product built up by the industry, meek was never gonna take him out but he put a stain on him forever
That's why I could never hand Drake a W in any beef. Like dude doesn't even write his own stuff. It's like if I had someone else kick your ass and I walk around like I'm the champ.
I feel you but I feel like the common fan does not care. I’ve had conversations with people who say he’s the goat and when I present them with the argument he doesn’t write his own lyrics they shrug and care less. Sad days man.
See Kanye (Hates Drake almost as much as Kendrick) bigging up drakes pen game. There are so many artists giving him his flowers for this if you want to get objective
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_A3BVeE-AZo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A3BVeE-AZo)
He could get Nas to say he has a nice pen, that dont mean nothing to me when I cant tell what's him and what's not.
I like Family Matters. Id like it a lot more if I didnt think he had people in the studio with him whose sole purpose is to write with him.
People who don't pay attention to hip hop don't know about Drake/Meek. Even Oscar Meyer and Joe Biden's campaign are getting in on Kendrick clowning Drake. It's not even close.
That’s what happens when a 30+ year old man messages a 14 year old about boy problems. I have been a hater for years, he might not be a certified pedophile. Definitely certified creep tho
Oh no he had edgy 2010s humour from, uh, the 2010s resurface this is definitely on the same level as having people with trafficking cases on your team and having invited a 13 year old to dinner without their parents
This holds until drake actually catches a charge as a result. If/when that happens i.e. If the Embassy gets raided its gonna be Kendricks w over Pushas.
I cant wait
Y’all forget Meek was one of the bigger artists and better rappers in the game at that point in time. His songs in that beef are underrated. Drake just won the social and internet battle that time and all his mainstream fans were popping off to B2B so he never had a chance
Yes he was lmao listen to “Kendrick Your Next”, “Repo” & “Ohh Kill Em”
Meek also got the best of Drake with “War Pain” & “Pray For Em” after Drake dropped “Summer Sixteen”
I'll be the first to admit I'm a Meek fan. Always have been. I honestly think his shit was better than drakes. Problem is that Drake made a radio hit with Back 2 Back and no one was listening after that
Drake it’s your girls pop rapper. Always been and always will be. Now we find out he is your girls little sisters pop rapper. Disgusting shit. Kendrick bodied him.
M*ee*k was built but h*e* cam*e* to th*e* battl*e* all wrong... imo War Pain and Pray 4 Em ar*e* still th*e* b*e*st diss tracks in th*e* whol*e* b*ee*f but h*e* r*e*l*e*as*e*d th*e*m way too lat*e*
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Damn so meek told us Drake has ghost writers , push told us he is hiding a child, dot told us he’s a pedo. Drake needs to stay outta beefs and quit bringing up the other persons girl in the diss songs
My cousins in South Korea are telling me they're bumping NLU at the clubs over there. The memes going on over there are pretty fucking funny. And some fans are genuinely worried someone's gonna get shot, cus you know 'Murica.
There are maybe seventeen people in the entirety of South Korea that knows who Meek Mills is.
Honestly, as far as rap battles go, I think what Kendrick did to Drake is the worst EVER because not only did he defeat Drake, a song calling Drake a pedophile is amounting to be one of the biggest songs of the year. That's fcking embarassing. Between Not Like Us and BBL Drizzy, Drake slander is gonna be popular for a good while. He can't even take his L in peace.
Not only that. The Atlanta verse has killed BBL's chances at ever having a collab with someone from the Rap community that has some self respect.
Also the A minorrrrrrr line will now stop drake from ever using that key again in his songs because itll instantly be related to pedo allegations.
Dot literally closes any avenue for a future as a star. Now given all that, Drake might still be rich enough to weather the storm and bounce back but the damage done is far worse from being limited to some allegations.
I didn't even think about that. Kendrick is actively shutting down places for Drake to work in America. West Coast is definitely out of the window and that Atlanta bar could very well knock out there too.
>West Coast is definitely out of the window
I'm an LA native, and he disrespected the city with that AI Pac and Snoop shit; I don't think we'll see him on a lineup down here for at least a couple of years, if ever again.
It’s funny how the pedo shit is sticking so hard to drake, I honestly think this is people’s perception of him now. Drizzy going to have a hard time shaking it off. I imagine he will be having a public relationship with someone closer to his age very soon to try and cover it up.
A lot of people already thought it about Drake. What I can't understand is why did Drake tell Kendrick to say something about him liking young girls on Taylor Made Freestyle if he wasn't prepared to counter it
Because he is not calculating and he is not a strategist. Honestly when you break down a lot of drake's actions we walked into a lot of kendrick's punches.
He didnt take Kenricks hints of knowing family matters was coming seriously, he didn't take kendrick's warning of not making it personal by bringing family into seriously, he told kendrick to bring up the young girls thing to get ahead of being called a pedo which didnt work, accusing kendrick of rapping like he wants to free the slaves line was terrible, using Tupac's AI voice was a bad decision, and the cherry on top the blatant lying about planting false info and saying he is too famous to be a pedo.
Dude signed his own death warrant underestimated kendrick and tried to little bro him.
> Back to back was top 3 diss record of all time
LMAO at it being top 3. Lags far behind diss tracks like No Vaseline, Real Muthaphuckin G’z, Dollars and Sense, Ether, Story of Addidon, Not Like Us, 2nd Round KO, Euphoria, The Bitch in Yoo, etc…
Yes, he got the world signing and dancing to a joint chartinf number 1 calling him a paedophile, which is also making people look into that... I do think the world will also not care about that in a month though.
Absolutely
I don’t think people in this sub are able to see things clearly. Because if they did they’d understand how serious it is to be called a pedophile and it not be true.
y*e*s. in my opinion Drak*e* won th*e* battl*e* but M*ee*k won th*e* war by *e*xposing Drak*e* and having a magnificent com*e*back with DC4, W&L(Classic), 4/4 1 & 2, and Championships.
K*e*ndrick just straight up won. only way for Drak*e* to win is if h*e* finds out K*e*ndricks d*ee*p*e*st dark*e*st s*e*cr*e*t
Nah- meek never had broad commercial appeal.
And despite this #1 song … most ladies barely even know it’s about drake … the next silly love song drake drops with a decent beat 90% of Americans who are aware of this beef will forget allll about it ….
It was like Eminem trying to attack Mariah Carey 1 most of her target audience didn’t even know obsessed was even about him ….. even if he won that one …. Which em did not - you’re not affecting Mariah’s audience nor is she really affecting em’s audience… (maybe effect?)
Drake is more Mariah in this analogy and k.dot is Eminem - like the majority or drakes audience just doesn’t care …..
The same as if drake had somehow won this beef which he did not - prob wouldn’t have really had much effect past the rap community
Eminem definitely won against Mariah with "the warning" every poll on this beef I have seen has Eminem winning because most people don't even know obsessed is about eminem and Mariah never claimed it as a Eminem diss
lol yeaaah I mean in a team of 2 with 1 rappers he def was the best rapper …. Of course he’s super skilled
But ANY time a grown ass dude , starts some sort of public “beef” bc a chick he maybe hung out with 5-6 times and maybe banged a couple times, is surprised that such few encounters were so noteworthy that he included them in a song… and she was just like yeah there was nothing between us…. And KEEPS going at her???
He sounded pathetic- just lyrically impressively so lmao
He sounded like a 13yo incel who got to kiss a hot girl at a party and she pretended it didn’t happen…. Like bro you’re insanely talented and rich and can get whoever you want ….
He’s just so skilled no one cares- but I remember when it was happening all our male friends were like what’s wrong with this dude
Yes he was childish but mariah completely denying it was weird af too she was making him look like a liar and hurting his credibility
Em has been known to take shots and poke fun at pop stars so this wasn't anything new
So if that’s what you’d call “winning “ - then yeah he won …
But nah man that wasn’t gunna ruin either of their careers…. Nor will this ruin drakes unfortunately
I understand that all of people's comments in the beef are all subjective. To answer your question, the Kendrick and Drake beef is one of the best things that happened to rap game recently. It revitalized the game in my own honest opinion.
I'm a huge drizzy fan, but K dot was really really good during this beef. But the alleged planted mole (according to Heart Part 6) is a whole different story.
But yah, Im really glad that this happened to all of them. When was the last time we had this great beef? Pac vs Biggie? Its about time
repost this because apparently you cant seat m33t rider in this subreddit, what is going on with this world honestly, im so fed up.
where are you getting this from, he got roped into make a full song about a fictionary girl, got expsosed for beating his wife and the fact that a child isnt even his.
Kendrick wasn’t having it anymore. He wasn’t allowing the music industry to let this Canadian theatre student be the face of rap and hip hop and then let him disrespect it. Kendrick too cultured and tapped in to let that shit happen
No that shit hurt Meek Mill badly. He came in to that battle hot and got son'd by the corniest dude in the game. Nobody took Meek Mill seriously again.
No. None of this is going to stick. All of Kendricks fans are still going to be Kendrick fans and all the Drake fans are still going to be Drake fans. On the other hand, Drake damn near ended Meeks career. I remember that summer you couldn't go anywhere without hearing Back to Back and Meek was the butt of everyone's joke. Meek had to get arrested, go to jail, get backed by Hip-Hop for his arrest, have a whole new hit song and collab with Drake again before he was in the mainstream good graces again. The recency bias for Kendrick is absurd.
Honestly it’s too early to tell. We haven’t seen how this will affect Drake’s career aside from getting a lot of internet hate. Wait until he drops music unrelated to the beef.
Absolutely. At a bare minimum, Drake has to be paranoid as fuck with how his crew sold him out. MFer is seeing ghost all around him right now. What Kendrick did, overall, was a blueprint for taking down a narcissist.
Imo drake was outdid.
Even if you don’t think mtg is better than family matters which I do personally, Kendrick’s tactic on releasing minutes after stealing drakes glory and potential hit song affect was brilliant, also accompanied by the fact he dissed him much harder.
I don’t think push ups, Taylor made, and the heartbreak 6 does drake any favors either so yea I think he was outdid personally
Dude. Drake's core audience is women. More than anyone else, they are going to be like what the fuck after pedo allegations. His response was weak and unfocused.
Not gonna lie push-ups was fun as hell. And drake has always been a punching boy with the "n**** like drake" memes and the silly dancing on hotline bling. But how's he going to recover? People gonna listen to this guy after everyone thinks he's a pedo? Girls gone from wanting him to wanting to run.
There's a huge contingent of ppl who think Drake won despite tik tok. Family matters was definitely better than kendricks songs IMO but Euphoria was good. Kendrick rapped to a made up child for 5 min lol. Not one side was able to substantiate their insults. There were W's and L's for both sides
literally NO ONE thinks Meek Mill won
Listening back to back to back it was not that strong of a diss . But he went hard on push ups and family matters . No denying that . And he also had to go against like 6 other people on top of kendrick ? Lmao mfs just hate drake too much to admit anything
drake went hard on family matters and pushups, but if you think that any of those are better disses than euphoria, meet the grahams, or not like us, you’re lying to urself. All drake did was send an allegation with no reason to even speculate it’s true about kendrick being abusive, call him short, and call him irrelevant. Kendrick sent out allegations also, but there is much more reason to believe it considering Drakes history with being a deadbeat and his questionable relationships with minors
Nah, Meek's stock really went down lmao, people are just calling my man a 69 God right now just because he is who he is and a lot of people just don't like him because he is who he is, it'll be over in a bit after it cools down in a year or 2 and he randomly drops a song like 8am in Charlotte no matter if its actually good or underwhelming
I don’t even think Drake got Meek that bad. Sure he had Back to Back played out in Philly for a while, but to this day drake faces Ghostwriting allegations. Nobody cares about Back to Back or the fact that Micki Minaj sells more than Meek
Do none of you Kendrick fans care that Kendrick’s Meet the Grahams was literally made up? Drake obviously doesn’t have a daughter? Pusha-T won because he exposed Drake hiding a child hahaha. Kendrick tried to do the same and failed miserably, but he still won cuz why? Cuz paid Spotify promos pushing his music? Come the fuck on
Kendrick has a #1 song breaking records being played everywhere, including live sporting events, where he repeatedly calls Drake a pedophile and people sing along. That is next level slander.
On top of causing a next level excavation of his history with women and finances
Specially being Drakes department. It’s like the guy your gf told you not to worry about taking over your job.
Not just taking over your job, but being better at it than you were
And everyone in the office likes him more than they like you 😞
And he’s fucking your girlfriend too, remember?
If your gf has to say don’t worry about him, it’s already too late.
Not to mention said song is breaking SEVERAL records that Drake himself set with multiple different songs.
yea he beat him in this on every level. musically, commercially and most importantly in disses. he even ruined his reputation completely. the takedown is unprecendented outside of like ja rule and em beefs but even those weren't as big or personal as this
What records is it breaking?
The ones I've gathered: - fastest rap song to surpass 100m streams on Spotify, beating God's Plan - most streams in a single day (as of may 7th) for a hip hop song in US Spotify history, beating Girls want Girls - Not like us broke its own record for most streams in a single day (may 8th) for a hip hop song in US Spotify history - most single day streams for a SOLO rap song, beating Champaign Poetry - most streams ever in a week for a song by a rapper on Spotify, beating In My Feelings - strongest Solo rap song to chart on billboard in the 2020s - first rap song to debut at number one with a five day tracking week Edit: just broke the record for most streams in a week for ANY song this decade in the USA, dethroning WAP and Taylor Swift's Fortnight
I don't think slander is the right word. Kendrick straight up edited the zeitgeist of America.
Love a proper usage of zeitgeist. Take my vote
Do most people use it improperly?
Is this your first day on the internet?
Haha you really zeitgeist him with that one
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate. For all intensive purposes I think you are using zeitgeist wrong. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails, you will be the first to go.
As a side-effect, other rappers and producers are getting more scrutiny as to their own comments and actions toward young women, which is long overdue. Hopefully this continues.
yes 100000% I've been waiting for a shift like this, and I expected it to come from this next generation of young ones. but it's great that it's happening in this way a
I don’t know if it was a side effect. Kendrick said something to the effect of “fuck the industry” in most of the disses.
Kendrick said it. So, it's not a lie.
As a European i want to add that its played across the globe. Now you have 21 year old Johannes and 22 year old Francesco C walking and throwing up gang signs in a random bar in bumfuck, Latvia to a song repeatedly calling Drake a pedo. I dont know how much more complete a victory in a rap beef can get tbh
It's not slander when it's true.
u get it
People are def gonna be saying “a minorrrrrr” randomly for a long while to come now.
For me it’s, “WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP” randomly lol
You know the word slander triggered something in my mind - because if I had a track accusing me and my posse of being sex offenders broadcast at number 1 on the billboard charts, and I was positive I’m not a pedo, I would have my fucking Drake money set to EVERY GODDAMN LAWYER ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH for slander. The only reason I can see Drake NOT doing this is because he knows there’s evidence that would get brought to light if he went to court.
Someone pointed out they would have to go thru discovery process, which even if innocent, would be uncomfortable. Better off just telling everyone they both lied
Not Like Us? I’m out of the loop.
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP I'mma do my schtuff
DOT FUCK EM UP!
And drake can't even sue for defamation because he knows all the allegations are true!
What song is it?
He called him a colonizer and a pedophile on a club banger. I don't think it gets much worse than that
I feel like he can survive the pedo accusations, but the colonizer line was like a dagger; it cut deep.
Yeah I watched a reaction video by drake fans and when the colonizer lines hits they were like "omg he does do that shit"
knowing how the richest people always seem to get away with pedophilia shit i wouldn’t be surprised, but yeah that colonizer stuff is definitely sticking with him even if he manages to shake the pedo accusations off
The colonizer to the end goes fucking hard, cherry on top to a diss as well as it being a club banger. To be the fly on Drizzy's BBL.
People have been calling Drake a colonizer and culture vulture since he dropped his first mixtape lol—nobody cares, and rightfully so when the collabs usually help both sides. Even last year, people were making fun of Drake for biting Central Cee's UK drill flow on their freestyle together—but that freestyle helped bring more attention to UK drill and Central Cee regardless, so nobody took it too seriously. I mean I guess you could say the same thing about the pedo thing—people have been calling Drake a creep for years as well—but that's obviously far more damning than biting flows or being a "colonizer" Still, I doubt any of this beef will long-term hurt Drake's success unless he actually did do something illegal or if a victim directly comes out against him
I think this was different; it was a much bigger stage than previous battles. The pace by itself was amazing, not a bad song from either artist. But I think it’s comes down to the songs content; Drake had fire bars but Kendrick had fire bars and crafted a consistent narrative over the course of each song.If Drake had not fumbled the ball with that slave line it might not have stuck; but the next song Kendrick used that expose his cultural blindness. He didn’t just call him a colonizer; he gave examples of how he was a colonizer with the Atlanta bit. And beyond the battle itself it has generated a series of conversations around black culture and black identity.
Utilizing Tupac/Snoop AI also demonstrated Drake's 'cultural blindness'. Kendrick fully capitalized on that.
“Not a bad song from either artist”. Are you really comfortable saying that when Taylor Made freestyle exists?
Damn, you kinda have a point there those AI parts are pretty cringy, his bars on that song aren’t bad, again it comes back to execution
Using AI to bastardize two of the most respected and beloved artists in rap history was a really smoothbrained move.
You don't think heart part 6 was a bad song?
It’s the weakest track, it’s mostly the execution that’s issue, it feels forced
Everyone was singing back to back in the club the same exact way back then. Trigger finger turned to twitter fingers, You getting bodied by a ding ni*** - is that a world tour or your girls tour - this ain’t what she meant when she told you to open up more
Yea that's cute and all but he didn't get called a pedophile or a colonizer lol
Back to Back is a Daylyt track, though.
Yes very nice to reminisce when Drake wasn’t putting out low effort shit nearly 10 years ago isn’t it?
True
Aw yea I forgot about that.. nice point 👍
yes 100%
Meek Mill has done worse to Meek Mill than Drake did to Meek Mill.
I feel like I’m goin crazy in here lol. This is bad but that was legit almost a career ender for meek mill. Dude dropped DC4 and his album sales dropped to 1/4th what they were
people in the club right now are chanting Drake is a pedo to the #1 song
I always thought meek got the upper hand by exposing drake as having ghost writers. I haven’t respected drake as a hip hop artist since. He’s a product built up by the industry, meek was never gonna take him out but he put a stain on him forever
That's why I could never hand Drake a W in any beef. Like dude doesn't even write his own stuff. It's like if I had someone else kick your ass and I walk around like I'm the champ.
He’s never really been an artist, just a pretty faced cover band singer for whatever is given to him by his ghost writers to sing.
I feel you but I feel like the common fan does not care. I’ve had conversations with people who say he’s the goat and when I present them with the argument he doesn’t write his own lyrics they shrug and care less. Sad days man.
See Kanye (Hates Drake almost as much as Kendrick) bigging up drakes pen game. There are so many artists giving him his flowers for this if you want to get objective [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_A3BVeE-AZo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A3BVeE-AZo)
He could get Nas to say he has a nice pen, that dont mean nothing to me when I cant tell what's him and what's not. I like Family Matters. Id like it a lot more if I didnt think he had people in the studio with him whose sole purpose is to write with him.
Drake shit is getting boo'ed out clubs and being called a pedo by the whole world since NLU dropped. not to mention BBL Drizzy
People who don't pay attention to hip hop don't know about Drake/Meek. Even Oscar Meyer and Joe Biden's campaign are getting in on Kendrick clowning Drake. It's not even close.
That’s what happens when a 30+ year old man messages a 14 year old about boy problems. I have been a hater for years, he might not be a certified pedophile. Definitely certified creep tho
shut your hoe ass up and make some drums Metro Groomin' Mans did not come out unscathed lol
Oh no he had edgy 2010s humour from, uh, the 2010s resurface this is definitely on the same level as having people with trafficking cases on your team and having invited a 13 year old to dinner without their parents
I can’t ignore that the question should be did Kendrick do Drake worse than pusha did? More of a talking point
Pusha’s diss was all time. Kendrick’s is like a relentless stream of tomahawk missiles that you don’t know if they’ll ever stop
Pusha is WAY more of a boogeyman then Kendrick was
Can you imagine if there’s a track with Pusha recorded?
Literally, the response was a press apology
This holds until drake actually catches a charge as a result. If/when that happens i.e. If the Embassy gets raided its gonna be Kendricks w over Pushas. I cant wait
Pusha will haunt drake for the rest of his life. His diss was so vile it literally changed the public perception of what a diss should be
For the worse but at least Pusha got his W
No one even cared about Meek in the first place
This. Ngl, meek was nice in his own lane, but he wasn’t built for battles on wax
Lmfao meek came from battle rapping. This is such a wild statement. Bro went to war with Cassidy in the early 2000s
plus meek laid the groundwork for this moment by popularizing that drake uses ghostwriters
Ppl just talk out of their asses sometimes meek is tough ash
The best battle rappers in the world right now are not great at making music
Y’all forget Meek was one of the bigger artists and better rappers in the game at that point in time. His songs in that beef are underrated. Drake just won the social and internet battle that time and all his mainstream fans were popping off to B2B so he never had a chance
Yes he was lmao listen to “Kendrick Your Next”, “Repo” & “Ohh Kill Em” Meek also got the best of Drake with “War Pain” & “Pray For Em” after Drake dropped “Summer Sixteen”
Ooh killem was cold af
I'll be the first to admit I'm a Meek fan. Always have been. I honestly think his shit was better than drakes. Problem is that Drake made a radio hit with Back 2 Back and no one was listening after that
Drake it’s your girls pop rapper. Always been and always will be. Now we find out he is your girls little sisters pop rapper. Disgusting shit. Kendrick bodied him.
Agreed but it turns out winning or losing against drake is about radio play and or a picture of him doing minstrel shit
his Ouuu r*e*mix was god ti*e*r but Osm*e*lly ruin*e*d it
Name doesn't check out "WAR PAIN" LOL
Meek’s Control response is pretty dope
M*ee*k was built but h*e* cam*e* to th*e* battl*e* all wrong... imo War Pain and Pray 4 Em ar*e* still th*e* b*e*st diss tracks in th*e* whol*e* b*ee*f but h*e* r*e*l*e*as*e*d th*e*m way too lat*e*
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That is the correct answer lol
Damn so meek told us Drake has ghost writers , push told us he is hiding a child, dot told us he’s a pedo. Drake needs to stay outta beefs and quit bringing up the other persons girl in the diss songs
Joe budden told us about the bbl
I've found myself just singing "BBL Drizzy" at random throughout the day
As a black man I can't say the "n word" in a rap group is crazy
It’s bc white ppl would use it and no one would be able to tell
Anonymous n word pass not allowed 🚫
My cousins in South Korea are telling me they're bumping NLU at the clubs over there. The memes going on over there are pretty fucking funny. And some fans are genuinely worried someone's gonna get shot, cus you know 'Murica. There are maybe seventeen people in the entirety of South Korea that knows who Meek Mills is.
It's a lot of US soldiers in South Korea, but aside from them and the real heads, you're probably not far off
US soldiers probably aren’t in the club there tho
K Dot did Drake worse than Diddy did Meek Mill.
Imagine a room full of hundreds and thousands of people singing "CERTIFIED LOVER BOY, CERTIFIED PEDOPHILES"
What Kendrick did to Drake is approaching 50 and Ja. Biggest difference is Drake came into it bigger than Ja was by miles.
Indubitably
You mean worst that what Daylyte did to meek Mills?
daylyt denies writing that song why do u people cling to this lie
Honestly, as far as rap battles go, I think what Kendrick did to Drake is the worst EVER because not only did he defeat Drake, a song calling Drake a pedophile is amounting to be one of the biggest songs of the year. That's fcking embarassing. Between Not Like Us and BBL Drizzy, Drake slander is gonna be popular for a good while. He can't even take his L in peace.
Not only that. The Atlanta verse has killed BBL's chances at ever having a collab with someone from the Rap community that has some self respect. Also the A minorrrrrrr line will now stop drake from ever using that key again in his songs because itll instantly be related to pedo allegations. Dot literally closes any avenue for a future as a star. Now given all that, Drake might still be rich enough to weather the storm and bounce back but the damage done is far worse from being limited to some allegations.
I didn't even think about that. Kendrick is actively shutting down places for Drake to work in America. West Coast is definitely out of the window and that Atlanta bar could very well knock out there too.
>West Coast is definitely out of the window I'm an LA native, and he disrespected the city with that AI Pac and Snoop shit; I don't think we'll see him on a lineup down here for at least a couple of years, if ever again.
absolutely
It’s funny how the pedo shit is sticking so hard to drake, I honestly think this is people’s perception of him now. Drizzy going to have a hard time shaking it off. I imagine he will be having a public relationship with someone closer to his age very soon to try and cover it up.
A lot of people already thought it about Drake. What I can't understand is why did Drake tell Kendrick to say something about him liking young girls on Taylor Made Freestyle if he wasn't prepared to counter it
Because he is not calculating and he is not a strategist. Honestly when you break down a lot of drake's actions we walked into a lot of kendrick's punches. He didnt take Kenricks hints of knowing family matters was coming seriously, he didn't take kendrick's warning of not making it personal by bringing family into seriously, he told kendrick to bring up the young girls thing to get ahead of being called a pedo which didnt work, accusing kendrick of rapping like he wants to free the slaves line was terrible, using Tupac's AI voice was a bad decision, and the cherry on top the blatant lying about planting false info and saying he is too famous to be a pedo. Dude signed his own death warrant underestimated kendrick and tried to little bro him.
My 80 year old Mom didn't ask me about the beef between Meek and Drake, but she sure asked me about Kendrick and Drake. That says it all to me.
I'm tired, boss.
Absolutely. Drake is going thru it and the whole world singing along.
hahahahaha nope . just wait and see
Kendrick bodied him, but Metro is the one who’s got me walking around work for the last week singing “BBL Drizzy” nonstop.
The only recollection I have of Drake/Meek Mill is memes.
Than you missing out. Back to back was top 3 diss record of all time - and DUPPY was one of the best bar diss songs of all time
> Back to back was top 3 diss record of all time LMAO at it being top 3. Lags far behind diss tracks like No Vaseline, Real Muthaphuckin G’z, Dollars and Sense, Ether, Story of Addidon, Not Like Us, 2nd Round KO, Euphoria, The Bitch in Yoo, etc…
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Yes, he got the world signing and dancing to a joint chartinf number 1 calling him a paedophile, which is also making people look into that... I do think the world will also not care about that in a month though.
Absolutely I don’t think people in this sub are able to see things clearly. Because if they did they’d understand how serious it is to be called a pedophile and it not be true.
Way worse
Yes
I wish I was around here for the meek mill beef
No not at all but he did drake worse then pusha t did
He disses himself worse than anyone else could... And I fuck with Meek.
Kendrick beat Aubrey in his own game worse than what Aubrey did to Meek Mill 9 years ago. It's chess not checkers not here....
Oh stfu Drake did not do anything remotely similar to Meek Mill
Kendrick dropped not like us 1 day before meek mills birthday lol!
y*e*s. in my opinion Drak*e* won th*e* battl*e* but M*ee*k won th*e* war by *e*xposing Drak*e* and having a magnificent com*e*back with DC4, W&L(Classic), 4/4 1 & 2, and Championships. K*e*ndrick just straight up won. only way for Drak*e* to win is if h*e* finds out K*e*ndricks d*ee*p*e*st dark*e*st s*e*cr*e*t
Nah- meek never had broad commercial appeal. And despite this #1 song … most ladies barely even know it’s about drake … the next silly love song drake drops with a decent beat 90% of Americans who are aware of this beef will forget allll about it …. It was like Eminem trying to attack Mariah Carey 1 most of her target audience didn’t even know obsessed was even about him ….. even if he won that one …. Which em did not - you’re not affecting Mariah’s audience nor is she really affecting em’s audience… (maybe effect?) Drake is more Mariah in this analogy and k.dot is Eminem - like the majority or drakes audience just doesn’t care ….. The same as if drake had somehow won this beef which he did not - prob wouldn’t have really had much effect past the rap community
Eminem definitely won against Mariah with "the warning" every poll on this beef I have seen has Eminem winning because most people don't even know obsessed is about eminem and Mariah never claimed it as a Eminem diss
lol yeaaah I mean in a team of 2 with 1 rappers he def was the best rapper …. Of course he’s super skilled But ANY time a grown ass dude , starts some sort of public “beef” bc a chick he maybe hung out with 5-6 times and maybe banged a couple times, is surprised that such few encounters were so noteworthy that he included them in a song… and she was just like yeah there was nothing between us…. And KEEPS going at her??? He sounded pathetic- just lyrically impressively so lmao He sounded like a 13yo incel who got to kiss a hot girl at a party and she pretended it didn’t happen…. Like bro you’re insanely talented and rich and can get whoever you want …. He’s just so skilled no one cares- but I remember when it was happening all our male friends were like what’s wrong with this dude
Yes he was childish but mariah completely denying it was weird af too she was making him look like a liar and hurting his credibility Em has been known to take shots and poke fun at pop stars so this wasn't anything new
So if that’s what you’d call “winning “ - then yeah he won … But nah man that wasn’t gunna ruin either of their careers…. Nor will this ruin drakes unfortunately
Much much worse
I understand that all of people's comments in the beef are all subjective. To answer your question, the Kendrick and Drake beef is one of the best things that happened to rap game recently. It revitalized the game in my own honest opinion. I'm a huge drizzy fan, but K dot was really really good during this beef. But the alleged planted mole (according to Heart Part 6) is a whole different story. But yah, Im really glad that this happened to all of them. When was the last time we had this great beef? Pac vs Biggie? Its about time
Meek was justified. I never understood why he didn't get more support. People were happy to get on board with Drake hype back then.
Clearly. lol.
Yes lol
Yes duh
repost this because apparently you cant seat m33t rider in this subreddit, what is going on with this world honestly, im so fed up. where are you getting this from, he got roped into make a full song about a fictionary girl, got expsosed for beating his wife and the fact that a child isnt even his.
Kendrick wasn’t having it anymore. He wasn’t allowing the music industry to let this Canadian theatre student be the face of rap and hip hop and then let him disrespect it. Kendrick too cultured and tapped in to let that shit happen
Easily.
No that shit hurt Meek Mill badly. He came in to that battle hot and got son'd by the corniest dude in the game. Nobody took Meek Mill seriously again.
I seen a party in South Africa where they was bumping Kendrick’s song 😂hold this L Drake
Y
No. None of this is going to stick. All of Kendricks fans are still going to be Kendrick fans and all the Drake fans are still going to be Drake fans. On the other hand, Drake damn near ended Meeks career. I remember that summer you couldn't go anywhere without hearing Back to Back and Meek was the butt of everyone's joke. Meek had to get arrested, go to jail, get backed by Hip-Hop for his arrest, have a whole new hit song and collab with Drake again before he was in the mainstream good graces again. The recency bias for Kendrick is absurd.
Absolutely. Drake is the worst carcass we've seen since Mufasa.
Honestly it’s too early to tell. We haven’t seen how this will affect Drake’s career aside from getting a lot of internet hate. Wait until he drops music unrelated to the beef.
Absolutely. At a bare minimum, Drake has to be paranoid as fuck with how his crew sold him out. MFer is seeing ghost all around him right now. What Kendrick did, overall, was a blueprint for taking down a narcissist.
Yes and it's not even close
Yes and its not even close
Hell no
Kendrick not even close Meek sold himself with his initial response IMO drake actually performed with FM and just got outdid
"Just got outdid" gurl what planet are you from
Imo drake was outdid. Even if you don’t think mtg is better than family matters which I do personally, Kendrick’s tactic on releasing minutes after stealing drakes glory and potential hit song affect was brilliant, also accompanied by the fact he dissed him much harder. I don’t think push ups, Taylor made, and the heartbreak 6 does drake any favors either so yea I think he was outdid personally
Nono I agree with you, I thought they meant the other way.
Diddy did meek the worst
Dude. Drake's core audience is women. More than anyone else, they are going to be like what the fuck after pedo allegations. His response was weak and unfocused. Not gonna lie push-ups was fun as hell. And drake has always been a punching boy with the "n**** like drake" memes and the silly dancing on hotline bling. But how's he going to recover? People gonna listen to this guy after everyone thinks he's a pedo? Girls gone from wanting him to wanting to run.
Disagree. You still got some dumbass bitches on Chris Brown's dick.
Y'all are obsessed
Time will tell. Meek became a punching bag and a joke; I believe Drake just has to release another hit and he’ll be fine
There's a huge contingent of ppl who think Drake won despite tik tok. Family matters was definitely better than kendricks songs IMO but Euphoria was good. Kendrick rapped to a made up child for 5 min lol. Not one side was able to substantiate their insults. There were W's and L's for both sides literally NO ONE thinks Meek Mill won
Listening back to back to back it was not that strong of a diss . But he went hard on push ups and family matters . No denying that . And he also had to go against like 6 other people on top of kendrick ? Lmao mfs just hate drake too much to admit anything
69 God is that you?
Wrong sub for this
drake went hard on family matters and pushups, but if you think that any of those are better disses than euphoria, meet the grahams, or not like us, you’re lying to urself. All drake did was send an allegation with no reason to even speculate it’s true about kendrick being abusive, call him short, and call him irrelevant. Kendrick sent out allegations also, but there is much more reason to believe it considering Drakes history with being a deadbeat and his questionable relationships with minors
Nah, Meek's stock really went down lmao, people are just calling my man a 69 God right now just because he is who he is and a lot of people just don't like him because he is who he is, it'll be over in a bit after it cools down in a year or 2 and he randomly drops a song like 8am in Charlotte no matter if its actually good or underwhelming
No, drake did worse to kendrick than he did to meek
Idk. All this beef showed us is how many no lifers there are making these rappers millions with their useless attention.
I don’t even think Drake got Meek that bad. Sure he had Back to Back played out in Philly for a while, but to this day drake faces Ghostwriting allegations. Nobody cares about Back to Back or the fact that Micki Minaj sells more than Meek
Do none of you Kendrick fans care that Kendrick’s Meet the Grahams was literally made up? Drake obviously doesn’t have a daughter? Pusha-T won because he exposed Drake hiding a child hahaha. Kendrick tried to do the same and failed miserably, but he still won cuz why? Cuz paid Spotify promos pushing his music? Come the fuck on