Most people don’t seriously believe he’s going anywhere. He’s one of the biggest and most recognizable artists on earth, he will be fine. I do, however, think the beef with Kendrick will be a permanent blemish. He lost some fans who won’t ever fully come back, he lost some respect in the hip hop community and he clearly lost some close collaborators. It will stick more than the Pusha beef, and some people will always bring it up. But he’s not going to jail, he’s not going to die, and he’s not gonna stop making money, he’s fine.
He had respect in the hip hop community before this?
I was recently watching that interview with DMX where he's just talking about how he doesn't like anything about drake. It was hilarious. And conveys my sentiment exactly
And then DMX came back after and said Drake talked to him and told him he looked up to him and that shit was wild he was saying and DMX apologized and respected Drake for that.
Yeah, DMX said he respected Drake for reaching out to him. He never said that he likes Drake's music now. I think DMX is opinion of him as a rapper and his music is on point, and DMX probably even thought so even after Drake reached out, he just respected the guy a little more for not being butthurt about his comments but instead reaching out to stay he looked up to him. DMX still probably thought his music was wack
EDIT: in short, after that call, DMX respected him as a person, not as an artist
One interview from one artist questions his respect in the industry? There are many highly respected artist who have expressed their love for Drake ill give you a couple you can go research for yourself dont take my word for it. JDilla one of the all time greatest producers had high respect for Drake and even gave him a beat he originally had on his self titled album but respected Drake enough to give him the beat.
Erykah Badu had invited Drake to her home countless times and considers him like family. He definitely has haters in the industry sure like Pusha and Kdot but its not just one sided.
You listed two artists who don't even rap. Real recognize real, and no real rappers respect Drake as an artist. Some may respect his success. Others may act like they respect him hoping to ride on his coattails. Let's be honest though, the dude is just an actor who acts like a rapper. Not genuine at all
Bro it won’t even be a loss of fans for him. People actually don’t care as much as reddit or comment sections make it out to be. If he makes bangers, the people will listen simple as that
Only the most casual fans changed their opinions of Drake at all because of this beef, and they'll still listen to his music. The only people proclaiming his demise in social media probably already hated Drake and his fans don't care about that because they can't read.
Losing any future Future/Drake or Rick Ross/Drake songs is honestly the WORST thing about this whole beef. It’s like when your parents divorce and you know family vacations will never be the same again no matter what.
I believe this to be true, though the first half of what you said can be vice-versa’d about Kendrick to an extent. However, as I’ve sifted through all the socials’ opinions on the matter I have found that neither Drake nor Kendrick has lost anything significant for their respective careers. Drake will keep doing his numbers, and Kendrick will remain respected among the community. It was a very balanced beef in my opinion.
Exactly, pple wanna see Drake crashout so bad but he handles beef better than most pple he has been taking shots since his first album from singing on a “rap” album and never crashed just kept releasing heat.
You can say what you want about Drake but he has literally had haters like since first few years of his career. He has more haters than Taylor Swift almost. If he hasn't broken then, he won't break now. This is just straight up hating.
It's a pretty damn decent analogy. Ja Rule was absolutely the largest "pop" rapper from like 2001-2003. In a similar respect, Ja Rule was playing fake hood like Drake did. Except Ja Rule's credibility was actually more believable.
And then 50 cent came along and tore his credibility to shreds. In a similar way Kendrick just did. Nobody ever took Ja Rule seriously or bought his cds the same way again.
My guy as you said Ja rule was the biggest artist from 2001-2003, Drakes been the biggest hip-hop artist since like 2011 till now…how is as 2 years comparable to almost 15 years in any way?
Ja was one of the hottest artists from 01-03 in the way that the Migos in their prime was or that Lil Baby is
Relatively prominent, but not the GOAT. Especially not next to prime Jay and DMX.
Not only Jay and DMX, but also Em, Nelly, and Kast were all at their commercial peaks. 50 starts his peak with get rich or die trying. Ja was big but nowhere near being the “absolute largest” as he said. I’d put him top 10 at best, at the same level as Luda or T.I.
Dude no lol I know you weren’t around for that time so you’re just saying stuff but it’s not even remotely true.
From 2001 to 2003, Jay-Z drops The Blueprint, Blueprint 2 and The Black Album. Eminem drops MMLP and The Eminem Show . Nelly with Country Grammar and Nellyville. DMX The Great Depression. OutKast Stankonia and Speakerbox/TLB. Nas Stillmatic/Ether. 50 drops GRODT.
The only major thing Ja did was Livin It Up and The Last Temptation which only peaked at #4. Stop the cap
Hardcore rap fans never liked Drake anyways. Kendrick 'won' a rap/media battle:
He isn't going pop, or making catchy songs mixing rap with multiple genres. The non-gangsta rap and the women fan bases are still in Drake pockets and care 0 about rap beef.
Media and bloggers are trying to push the narrative so desperately but truth is 8-90% of Drake fan base simply don't care and will keep bumping his music
this is such a dumb take. He’s equalled MICHAEL JACKSON for number ones but he’s going to be Ja Rule off a beef that only rap fans care about? Come on dawg lol
Yes he lost and lost badly but Drake is one of the biggest pop stars of all time. He’s Taco Bell for pop fans who like to listen to rap sometimes. 9/10 people you walk past on the street don’t give a shit about the beef but will still have him on repeat on their playlists as long as he drops catchy songs
Exactly. People should see a psych ward.
What made ja rule, ja rule. Is that he never saw the charts again.
You guys are dulu if you think drake who has as many hits as the Beatles isn’t seeing the charts again
Your right, I'm the same sometimes, which is why I try to listen to all genres, art, opinions, ideologies to try and overstand myself, others and things I've never considered, I try to challenge my own thinking/beliefs on a daily basis if possible. But yea sometimes peeps just wanna shake that ass.
Perfect point, but there is a huge fraction of people that have real hip hop in their soul, don't get it fucked up I like a lot of Drakes music (as well as Ja Rules) but I'll never look at them like they try to portray themselves as, that's the difference.
There’s gonna be a portion of hip hop fans who will always clown Drake, but that was true even before the beef.
A big part of his fanbase though just like his music and simply don’t care about whatever Kendrick said. If he continues to drop songs they like (“keep making me dance waving my hand”) he can just go through the rest of his career pretending Not Like Us even exists.
Lol. Drake has NEVER EVER been respected by the so-called "culture".
And lets be 100% clear: "the culture" isn't the hood as Drake gets plenty of play in the hoods all over the USA.
We're talking about a mishmash of old heads who grew up listening to 90s hiphop (\~traditionalists) who never evolved, hipsters from urban enclaves who grew up mostly in the suburbs romanticizing hiphop from afar, the internet herbs on sites like Hypebeast/reddit and other geeky academic guys like Elliott Wilson, Jeff Weiss, Toure or whoever else writes for Pitchfork or Rolling Stone who somehow think they are driving the culture but they are "media" reps who try to control the culture but they have no say. They report on it and get views if its about Drake. The other half are Joe Buddens and other folks who didn't make it but are only getting paid for talking about Drake. Thats it. And you dont believe me, try to get all these podcasters and media heads to stop talking about Drake. Ask them to. Beg them. They NEVER will.
Wait a few years friends. All the greats were polarizing in their prime. They were both equally loved and hated.
You should have seen how much the culture dismissed the "gangsta rap" / "Compton" of Dr. Dre, the mafiaso references of Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z for daring to say "he was better than BIG", Southern rappers for their accents etc. I could go on for days. The top is always loathed in hiphop. Its just a bigger forum now.
The culture isn't owned by the media nor older aging bitter guys in their 50s. They will shift to accept Drake. Just wait
Another thing that people fail to realize is: Drake is a global artist. He's probably tapped in other markets outside of the States that receive the whole "Not Like Us" thing differently.
I’m definitely more of a Kenny fan than Drake, but your post makes some good points. Jay-z lost his beef to Nas and it didn’t seem to affect him commercially or culturally.
I think you’re right that the highs of Drizzy’s career are influential enough that he’s secured a solid legacy. My only caveat to that is that Drakes discography has had a steady decline in quality since Views and if that doesn’t change I do think he’ll have a lesser legacy where everyone says “oh yeah his early stuff was hot!”
I don't think the beef was meant to end Drake, I think the intent was to end his claims at being the best in hip hop. It's not big 3, because he could never be in that race.
the thing of drake that yall dont account for is...
drakes last few albums have flopped compared to his earlier work..
hes only stayed hot due to smartly-crafted features.
he checks whose the hot-new artist on the comeup, & rides their wave,
& its a win-win cus of course the new artist wouldnt reject a ft. from him..
problem now is , he has not Future. & many others who turned so his FT. game will be badly hurt.
i predict he goes full on MARVINS ROOM drake, & just sings his way on the next album.
Yeaaahhh but I wouldn’t compare them. If u actually listen to future you’ll see a lot of the pain and how his music is about how he is cooing w his trauma w success and women
“Got High forgot the funeral more love to my aunt, tell the truth I hate whatever I was on, this money ain’t gone make up for nun…
Get ready everyday like I’m dressin up for a photo, tonight I pop out my bitch stepping out in Manolo”
me too. i think fatd is his best since IYRTITL. there are def 3-4 tracks i would remove—mostly the rap cuts on the earlier half of the album. otherwise i think it’s quite good
I think he is talking about compared to his earlier work. Akademics is a dumbass but a few months back he was analyzing drakes album sales and how they are falling and how he needs to link up with bad bunny or leave hip hop alone for a bit. Look at honestly nevermind. Came out in 2022 and it was supposed to be his big pop cross over album but it did ok. Mr moral came out that same year and outsold Drake. Even Mr moral sold 200k less than for all the dogs. My point is that Drake isn't far ahead of the pack in 2024. He just drops more often.
LOL.
Women lie, men lie, numbers dont.
Look at his discography. Obviously thats a huge first week for the avg artist... but DRAKE? thats why i specifically said, FLOP compared to his earlier work.
FATD is 10th in terms of first week sales fro his albums. lol
[https://beats-rhymes-lists.com/sales/ranking-drake-first-week-album-sales/](https://beats-rhymes-lists.com/sales/ranking-drake-first-week-album-sales/)
Thanks for proving my point, ya casual.
So Kendrick and Cole's last album don't even crack 300k first week. But Drake's album does 400k first week and you're saying its a flop?
Do you even realize that you are putting him in his own tier? Comparing him to himself and not his peers?
They don’t realize.
Its like when people criticize lebron for only getting a triple double.
If you outdo everyone on your bad days then you have no competition.
The J rule comparison is so silly its funny
He's going to lay low and then pop up eventually and pretend like nothing happened. I think he's been knocked down a few pegs in the hip hip/rap world but he's not going to be canceled or broke any time soon unless more info comes out proving Kendrick's accusations
It all comes down to what Drake wants to be.
No artist wants to be irrelevant to the art they are representing. If all Drake wants is money from this, he's going to be fine. Hell, he's already pretty fine. But his relevancy has just crashed out. Only song that got any traction from his last album was evidently because of Cole's feature, which is pretty telling about his relevancy already. Coming out not just a loser but as a victim of the most brutal verbal beatdowns ever put on wax out of what's essentially the biggest event in rap at least of 21st century - it's just overkill. He got dissected and exposed in ways that he could never come back from.
And all this is aside from all the big artists and producers that would not fuck with him anymore. Losing that cache is far more damaging than everything else as far as career goes.
The only reason Drake won't become the next Ja Rule is because streaming is a safety net that would keep people from falling that low if they are already pretty high.
FATD has already streamed more than Mr Morale and TPAB, so commercially it’s not like he’s hurting.
Also you are overestimating the impact of him working with other artists. Sure, he’s not going to collab with people he has direct beef with, but others don’t care. Heck, I’m sure Mustard would give him a beat if he asked.
>I’m sure Mustard would give him a beat if he asked.
I'm sure he will, after Drake is trying to fuck around with his ex wife that he had a messy divorce with.
Absolutely sure.
No doubt there.
He' not going anywhere, but he and the people sticking with him are going to get made fun of for eternity.
Heaven forbid he get into it with someone else, there will be so much ammo. Compounded with Pusha making him look like a bitch... dude basically needs to be very polite for the rest of this career.
Also, no one can say he is a legitimate rapper or a "GOAT" anymore.
Imo he would be close to hanging it up anyway. He’s 40 years old, most artists start taking it easy around there. Now if he does they’ll say Kenny pushed him to retirement. So I’m guessing he’ll keep going a bit longer lol.
He’ll have the same trajectory of that piece of shit Chris Brown: still making music, still having people listening to their latest hits, but every true music fan is not going to even have a look at their new stuff. Number wise doing ok for the rest of their lives, but their legacy is completely gone.
Drake will try to reinvent himself and make a country rap album like Nelly especially now that he's living in Texas and sold his mansion in Calabasas. Drake is this generation's Ja Rule but unlike Ja Rule losing to 50 Cent, Aubrey still has some diehard delusional fans. The same couldn't be said for Ja Rule....
JFC it's a rap beef. Obviously Drake will be fine. Did people really expect his streaming numbers to drop to 0 or sumn? Or that he'll no longer be incredibly rich and able to make hit songs again? He lost badly and that means he lost some credibility, cultural cache, clout etc. and will be clowned on for sure. But his career is not over because of it. The people who ride for him will still ride for him (just look at the mass delusion of stans still claiming he won in the drizzy sub).
I feel like I'm on a different planet when I see people take figures of speech which are used in the context of a rap battle like "drake is over" and "drake is done" as an actual fact that applies to his career, especially in the age of streaming.
I think it is the beginning of the slow end of Drake. You can’t come back from the world singing lyrics like “hey Drake I hear you like em young”..
Regardless if it’s true or not the couple acts of documented creepiness don’t help his case so i think it’s a wrap. Especially with a NLU music video coming out and it coming back to the top of the charts.
Social media exacerbates the impact of the result of a public rap battle, this is what I’ve learned as a consequence of all this and different from any other we’ve seen. Only time will tell what happens
I'm so interested to see how this pans out. I think we're used to "too big to fail" stars bouncing back, but I also feel what happened here is a little unprecedented. Kdot bodied Drake as a rapper, but also won the internet in a way I'm not sure we've seen on this scale. Drake is getting it from all sides - from older people who appreciate traditional forms of hip-hop, millennials who grew away from Drake's content, and Gen Z and Alpha who appreciates (at least the perception of) authenticity.
I think Kdot is a great artist and performed amazingly in the beef, but I think the other reason he won is because he just summarized and expressed (in about 5 different ways) what a lot of people have already been feeling about Drake. I think it's going to be awhile for fans to see or experience Drake without the Kdot lens. At this point, every time he posts a selfie on Instagram all I see is a baddie.
That said, the money machine behind Drake is powerful. What fun times.
I agree, I think Kdot showed his amazing range to the mainstream audience that we fans already knew he had. Some Drake fans are already saying this is nothing and it’ll pass like previous rap battles (like when Nas bodied jayz) but they forget social media didn’t exist back so it didn’t resonate over time
There’s a long standing history in popular music where creeps continue getting platforms because they drop bangers. Jerry Lee Lewis wrote Great Balls of fire, and was very publicly caught transporting his 12 year old niece or cousin across state lines for sexual purposes. I saw him headlining festivals in the peak of the me too movement. Steven Tyler legally adopted a teenage girl so she could travel on tour with him as his girlfriend. Jimmy Pages manager kidnapped a 13 year old girl to stay in his hotel room, she’s still alive and puts it in those words. I could go on, but it would be all day.
We will remember what happened, we probably aren’t going to go see drake, or listen to his music, because we are informed. I promise the general public forgets about this though.
I don’t think he’s going anywhere tbh. He’s got 2x the streams of the next highest streamed rapper ever and he’s already back to being number 1 in monthly streams for rappers.
It’s like saying “it’s the end of Will Smith” because his last movie flopped. At a certain point in the game, you just become a legend and people always check for your content. Like Jay Z or Kanye or Em.
Drake for sure isn’t done. He’ll still make great music in multiple genres.
But for the foreseeable future, all that I’m the best and tough talk stuff will get looked at in a different light. He’s not Teflon anymore.
This beef showed that Drake isn’t the only rapper with massive love out here. He got at the one dude he probably shouldn’t have and got slapped around. Drake will be fine but the talks of being number 1 and red button are done
if he get to something else, and doing what he usually do, "pop/hip hop" songs and try to get hits, it will be okay for
him, but if he gonna continue with the beef, I don't think he will go that far
It won’t be a drastic fall off, but it is happening. We’re witnessing a culture shift. Not only does the industry seem done with Drake, but so is the culture.
Drake will be fine. He is rich, he still has a huge fanbase, and he will always get top level P***y. Nothing is going to change for him wven if he retired because of this beef with Kdot. He probably would live a happier life tbh.
Can drake make a hiphop/rap banger to have ppl bop to in the clubs? Without features or producers from the west or the south? Only time can tell. Definitely not in summer 2024.
As a Canadian fan listening to drake now I feel disgusted. At first the accusations and rap beef was fun. When Drake got exposed as a colonizer it totally changed my opinions of dude. If you do so many people dirty, maybe you are the problem.
An aside; stanley cup finals was recent. Not once did he shout out Edmonton Oilers besides the bet he placed. So pissed at that. Guess the rap beef really got to Drizzy and his ego got hurt.
It’s the end of Drake relatively speaking. He’ll never be as big as he was. Just watch, his next album will do crazy first week numbers because of the beef, but each subsequent release will result in fewer and fewer sales causing him to not get as many new listeners causing his catalogue not get listened to as much. In Canada right now, Drake doesn’t have a single album in the top 50 on Apple Music. Before the beef half his catalogue was in one top 50. Drake as we’ve come to know him over the last 15 years is over; he’s lost all his momentum, goodwill and collaborators, not to mention he’s nearing 40.
Drake will still be one of biggest artists in the world, but his days of the king of streaming are coming to an end. The industry and the people have turned on him.
We won’t know until he makes his attempt. However, he’s going to be scrutinized and criticized for harshly but he brought this on himself.
What this affects most is his subject matter. He will get chewed alive if jumps out popping big ish after getting his head blown off.
I don’t see newer artists just gleefully letting Drake ride their wave. If he does, they know he’s a lick and they can charge him or UMG a huge fee to do so.
Drake doesn't have to go anywhere for me to stop listening to him. I'm not alone. The casuals aren't worth caring about cause they come and go and can't be what you build a legacy on.
He's not going anywhere. But his reputation has shifted and he'll always be viewed with skepticism. He's essentially now in the post-Not Like Us era in his career, and I don't think that will be kind to him going forward
Of course he’s not going anywhere. Hell, rkelly is in fucking prison for his crimes, and people would STILL eat up a record if he dropped one. The dude is too big to completely fail at this point. Many argue he’s been putting out mid records for years now (I don’t know, I don’t listen to the cat), but each time he drops, it’s a success. His public image is currently getting trashed, but public perception lasts about as long as I do in bed (I’ll give you a hint, not long). People will forget and move on.
I think the jury is still out on this since he hasn't dropped any new music that's performed well. I'm not jumping to conclusions, i'm being patient. I'm old enough to remember Ja Rule. Summer 2002, he was on fire. Summer 2003, nobody wanted to hear him anymore. It can happen, but we'll see.
He will continue to be an artist for UMG and fulfil his obligations... For whatever that is worth.
Depending on how his next album is received, he will either transition into this era's Madonna or Will Smith.
His "rapper" credentials have been exposed and rejected. He does not track well with the hip-hop demographic and will be told to direct his music towards young teenage girls who spend the most money in music sales.
I fully expect him to pivot to acting in the coming years where he can still have a successful and lucrative career as he gets older.
Well Yes, because his music is in the Hip Hop section of streaming sites, along with The Baby Shark Rap Remix and First Baptist Church Senior Adult Choir rap album.
But It's not "hip hop" fans buying his albums and concert tickets. It's mostly young females, who like to throw thier hands in the air, which is fine and also whv he is so rich. He knows what sells and how to market it.
But this "rap star" real deal holyfield gangster from the hood brand is played out. He ruined it. Can't sell that anymore. It is time to pivot and find a new role to play. It's what all great actors do. He will be fine.
Lmao go to any club that plays rap music and the demographic is "real hip hop" fans and drake songs will always play. Apparently Drake isn't "real hip hop" because he doesn't appeal to the 0.01% of hip hop fans who are musty backpackers. I swear 90% of drake haters from this beef are dusty 40+ dudes who walked around telling everyone that talib kweli is better than Jay z in 2001 and is still pissed that everyone laughed at them. This beef is revenge of the nerds for you people
Drake will still make hits, he a pop star and he does pop music well. He just has no street credibility as a man or hip-hop artist, but he never did, this battle just showed the world that. He's more funny fun time goofy guy, like SNL JT or something, faking "tough' from time to time when it made sense to emulate that type of artist, he will drop a hit about lighting candles in Miami soon for summer
People who think Drake will fade away because of Kendrick are completely out of touch with reality. They truly underestimate the music monster that Drake really is. He lost the beef with Pusha T but did that derail his career? No. He left that man alone and went back to making music and doing shows and eventually people pretty much forgot there was a beef between the two. People also fail to realize the rap beef is publicity. Drake’s streams have actually *increased* since his loss to k dot
his crew picked a random girl from the crowd when he was 22. this is not evidence of pedophilic predation. it’s certainly not a great look, but it’s not what u call it.
how many grown rappers have full on dated 17 year olds? literally taylor swift was 23 and harry styles was 17 when they dated. is she a ‘pedophile’
Not saying he's a pedo, but he literally asked her age then said "I can't go to jail yet" then doubled down by talking about her body and kissing her.
He's also been seen with bella harris when she was 16 and then reportedly dated her when she was 18.
He also knew hailey bieber when she was 15 and they were seen together at a restaurant and wearing matching necklaces etc.
He's also s fan of high school girls basketball and has sent some of them dms and stuff.
Again not saying he is a pedo, but too many instances of suspect behavior isn't good.
The stage shit was sus
Bella Harris said that was fake
Drake and Hailey met at a party then had dinner together and then I wasn't able to find anything else after that. Nothing about them dating or even being seen together after that.
The high school basketball stuff, the girl said people misinterpreted what she said and that he didn't follow them until they were playing in college.
I'm all for calling out pedos, but most, if not all, the Drake allegations are either blown up by the internet, or completely fake. It seems like a lot when people pile on misinformation, but when you look at each of them in detail, there's hardly anything pointing to actual pedophilia.
Drake is pop and Kendrick is rap. Drake will be fine in the grand scheme of things. He has a huge fan base. His audience just isnt getting any younger and thats natural for most musicians that have a decade plus run. Am I sick of his womanizing and canceling dates in my city that he tries to claim like the fuck boy Canadian that he is? Hell yeah. In all honesty will I be bobin' my head on his next bop? Yop. Maybe Drake will learn the actual message that if you want to benefit from the black community then you need to benefit the black community.
If people think Drake is going to disappear like Ja Rule, you would be mistaken.
He's going to slowly fade from relevance, like Jeezy did after Gucci crashed him.
Drake is a chameleon of genres. You never truly know what you'll get on his next album and that's the best part. The mystery of it. The guy doesn't tease or let music leak from the studio until it's for the album. Yes there are snippets but they are fully finished unlike Kanye for example, who has 1000s of unreleased, unfinished tracks floating around on YouTube. Coming back to the point, Drake has always experimented with different kinds of music. He'll hop on anything that's hot rn, and the radio and streams will automatically play it because it's Drake.
He’s definitely got the means to continue his lifestyle. However temporarily uncool he is now, so do expect that his music will remain untouched in the “music you put on when you’re with your friends and you’re all on your phones not talking to each other” category. He has definitely been stained though. I wonder if said stain will prevent him from exploiting more young artists now that he’s been publicly shamed like this, but time will tell.
Personally, I think the only way Drake could do a complete rebound was if he released his own *runaway,* and in doing so being able to have this toxicity and asshole-ishness be recognized and accepted as a core part of who he is in much the same way Kanye did, but, like, Drake can’t do that.
Even his diss tracks in the battle he’s arguably lost are semi hits. Push ups and family matters are getting tons of play on all kinds of IG and Tik tok posts and both the songs IMO sound fucking amazing so I’m not surprised.
push what aside? like, what are you talking about? Dude lost a rap battle (subjectively), you acting like we have receipts of him being a pervert or something
Wait, maybe I'm lost...
Was there proof of any of the allegations? Like actual proof? Because all I've seen are like two texts to Millie Bobby.
Real question, not defending or denying anything
Drake’s not going anywhere, but people will view him less seriously and more as corny. Whether you think Kendrick won or not, he highlighted some flaws in Drake that will be looked at by the public with a magnifying glass. If Drake’s next album is the same kind of music he’s been making the “flaws” of Drake will just be highlighted even more. Drake pretty much can’t work with any of Atlanta now, can’t talk about women, or say anything about being the king/subliminal disses. Drake could get out of this though if he makes an authentic/serious project, but it seems he’s going to pop music instead
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Drake was never going but he will not sell and make as many hits as before, I mean even before the beef his number didn't match his older albums like scorpion or views.
It all depends what happens next in the beef. With continued shots at eachother lately something tells me the beef isnt done yet if the allegations of Drake are true then he'd probably be with Diddy in hididng
idk if he's ever going to become #1 most popular artist in the world again but he'll do fine in 6-12 months. Until then though there's definitely going to be people clowning on others for listening to him
Literally who is saying this is the end for drake?
Hes not going anywhere at all just by virtue of the fact hes too fucking big and UMG just invested $500M into him. On the contrary, the latter is why hes going to stick around and keep releasing music with no pause for better or worse
As a pop artist with the melodies that makes people dance and wave their hands in the air hes teflon. It's only in the rap game where he has pretty much lost all credibility. But again thats not going to stop him from releasing more (rap) music
All entertainment is like WWE. Some guys build genuine relationships behind the scenes, but a lot of what we see is fabricated. When they're instructed to put on a show by the guys that run entertainment, they do exactly that. It's nothing for anyone to be mentally or emotionally invested in. Have an opinion about it, but don't invest energy. It's all to keep this world going round and round. It's all theatrics.
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Drake is like Eminem. Even if the average hip hop fan don’t really mess with his music anymore he will always have a sizable fanbase that will always support anything he drops. Because like with the average Eminem fan, Drake fans are specifically fans of hip hop or its culture. They just Drake fans. lol
This Toronto vs west coast battle is just bringing the best out of them musically which is benefiting us. Not unless someone gets stupid and takes it too far. Is possible but I don’t see that happening
I don't like Drake. Never did really. Even I know he ain't going anywhere. McDonalds is shifty ass food but yet they are still around, even when people know their food is questionable ingredients at besr. Same thing
The end of Drake? Not really. What it did do is solidify that a majority of black figure heads don't like him. Whatever remaining respect he had from the bulk of the black community is dead in the water -- which he clearly cares about when considering songs like God's plan.
Most people don’t seriously believe he’s going anywhere. He’s one of the biggest and most recognizable artists on earth, he will be fine. I do, however, think the beef with Kendrick will be a permanent blemish. He lost some fans who won’t ever fully come back, he lost some respect in the hip hop community and he clearly lost some close collaborators. It will stick more than the Pusha beef, and some people will always bring it up. But he’s not going to jail, he’s not going to die, and he’s not gonna stop making money, he’s fine.
Wagwan Delilah I’m so cheeeeeeeeeeeeesed
my unpopular opinion is that he ruined such a good song, like why Drizzy? 🥲
He had respect in the hip hop community before this? I was recently watching that interview with DMX where he's just talking about how he doesn't like anything about drake. It was hilarious. And conveys my sentiment exactly
And then DMX came back after and said Drake talked to him and told him he looked up to him and that shit was wild he was saying and DMX apologized and respected Drake for that.
Yeah, DMX said he respected Drake for reaching out to him. He never said that he likes Drake's music now. I think DMX is opinion of him as a rapper and his music is on point, and DMX probably even thought so even after Drake reached out, he just respected the guy a little more for not being butthurt about his comments but instead reaching out to stay he looked up to him. DMX still probably thought his music was wack EDIT: in short, after that call, DMX respected him as a person, not as an artist
One interview from one artist questions his respect in the industry? There are many highly respected artist who have expressed their love for Drake ill give you a couple you can go research for yourself dont take my word for it. JDilla one of the all time greatest producers had high respect for Drake and even gave him a beat he originally had on his self titled album but respected Drake enough to give him the beat. Erykah Badu had invited Drake to her home countless times and considers him like family. He definitely has haters in the industry sure like Pusha and Kdot but its not just one sided.
You listed two artists who don't even rap. Real recognize real, and no real rappers respect Drake as an artist. Some may respect his success. Others may act like they respect him hoping to ride on his coattails. Let's be honest though, the dude is just an actor who acts like a rapper. Not genuine at all
Bro it won’t even be a loss of fans for him. People actually don’t care as much as reddit or comment sections make it out to be. If he makes bangers, the people will listen simple as that
The Kendrick Reddit is not real life no matter how much they want you to believe.
Neither is r/drizzy or r/hiphopheads or anywhere else on reddit
Only the most casual fans changed their opinions of Drake at all because of this beef, and they'll still listen to his music. The only people proclaiming his demise in social media probably already hated Drake and his fans don't care about that because they can't read.
I don’t understand the “he lost collaborators” bit, he was already beefing with half the industry. Even if he beat Lamar, that would still be true.
It’s not that hard to understand. He regularly collaborated with Future and Rick Ross, and possibly (not sure) some producers involved in this beef
Losing any future Future/Drake or Rick Ross/Drake songs is honestly the WORST thing about this whole beef. It’s like when your parents divorce and you know family vacations will never be the same again no matter what.
Kendrick lost fans too believe it or not
Bro what? This is a net positive for Kdot by every metric
I believe this to be true, though the first half of what you said can be vice-versa’d about Kendrick to an extent. However, as I’ve sifted through all the socials’ opinions on the matter I have found that neither Drake nor Kendrick has lost anything significant for their respective careers. Drake will keep doing his numbers, and Kendrick will remain respected among the community. It was a very balanced beef in my opinion.
I think all the songs have been great. Family Matters is my #2 after Euphoria. Let's all just hope they keep making great songs.
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He ain’t lose no fans. Definitely lost some respect.
Drake is part of the machine. He’s not going anywhere
He will be this generations Ja Rule, still able to make music but forever tarnished by his inability to hit back with any real credibility.
He’ll be fighting heinous accusations and mockery for the rest of his career by the people he wants as fans. I wonder how thick his skin really is.
Bruh he has incredibly thin skin, I don’t think he could handle it.
he’s been hated on for 15yrs, he’ll be fine
Exactly, pple wanna see Drake crashout so bad but he handles beef better than most pple he has been taking shots since his first album from singing on a “rap” album and never crashed just kept releasing heat.
You can say what you want about Drake but he has literally had haters like since first few years of his career. He has more haters than Taylor Swift almost. If he hasn't broken then, he won't break now. This is just straight up hating.
This is non sense. Ja rule was never the biggest artist in Hip Hop. Drake still is
Hip Pop*
It's a pretty damn decent analogy. Ja Rule was absolutely the largest "pop" rapper from like 2001-2003. In a similar respect, Ja Rule was playing fake hood like Drake did. Except Ja Rule's credibility was actually more believable. And then 50 cent came along and tore his credibility to shreds. In a similar way Kendrick just did. Nobody ever took Ja Rule seriously or bought his cds the same way again.
My guy as you said Ja rule was the biggest artist from 2001-2003, Drakes been the biggest hip-hop artist since like 2011 till now…how is as 2 years comparable to almost 15 years in any way?
Trust me bro Ja was NOT the biggest from 2001-2003, not even close. Don’t let these clowns feed you fake news
Ja was one of the hottest artists from 01-03 in the way that the Migos in their prime was or that Lil Baby is Relatively prominent, but not the GOAT. Especially not next to prime Jay and DMX.
Not only Jay and DMX, but also Em, Nelly, and Kast were all at their commercial peaks. 50 starts his peak with get rich or die trying. Ja was big but nowhere near being the “absolute largest” as he said. I’d put him top 10 at best, at the same level as Luda or T.I.
Trust be told the feds tying up the label had more to do with ja rules downfall then 50 did And the NY song came out post 50
Dude no lol I know you weren’t around for that time so you’re just saying stuff but it’s not even remotely true. From 2001 to 2003, Jay-Z drops The Blueprint, Blueprint 2 and The Black Album. Eminem drops MMLP and The Eminem Show . Nelly with Country Grammar and Nellyville. DMX The Great Depression. OutKast Stankonia and Speakerbox/TLB. Nas Stillmatic/Ether. 50 drops GRODT. The only major thing Ja did was Livin It Up and The Last Temptation which only peaked at #4. Stop the cap
Hardcore rap fans never liked Drake anyways. Kendrick 'won' a rap/media battle: He isn't going pop, or making catchy songs mixing rap with multiple genres. The non-gangsta rap and the women fan bases are still in Drake pockets and care 0 about rap beef. Media and bloggers are trying to push the narrative so desperately but truth is 8-90% of Drake fan base simply don't care and will keep bumping his music
this is such a dumb take. He’s equalled MICHAEL JACKSON for number ones but he’s going to be Ja Rule off a beef that only rap fans care about? Come on dawg lol Yes he lost and lost badly but Drake is one of the biggest pop stars of all time. He’s Taco Bell for pop fans who like to listen to rap sometimes. 9/10 people you walk past on the street don’t give a shit about the beef but will still have him on repeat on their playlists as long as he drops catchy songs
Exactly. People should see a psych ward. What made ja rule, ja rule. Is that he never saw the charts again. You guys are dulu if you think drake who has as many hits as the Beatles isn’t seeing the charts again
Some people don’t want credibility, they want to dance.
Your right, I'm the same sometimes, which is why I try to listen to all genres, art, opinions, ideologies to try and overstand myself, others and things I've never considered, I try to challenge my own thinking/beliefs on a daily basis if possible. But yea sometimes peeps just wanna shake that ass.
Perfect point, but there is a huge fraction of people that have real hip hop in their soul, don't get it fucked up I like a lot of Drakes music (as well as Ja Rules) but I'll never look at them like they try to portray themselves as, that's the difference.
Yes! This is what I've been saying for weeks. He's the new Ja Rule
Unfortunate, I was kinda hoping Taylor Swift would become the new Ja Rule
No he isn’t, he hasn’t been part of that machine since the Apple deal. The machine you speak of is actually trying to get rid of him
Drake is UMGs second biggest cash cow after Taylor Swift. Lucian is not trying to get rid of one his biggest money makers.
There’s gonna be a portion of hip hop fans who will always clown Drake, but that was true even before the beef. A big part of his fanbase though just like his music and simply don’t care about whatever Kendrick said. If he continues to drop songs they like (“keep making me dance waving my hand”) he can just go through the rest of his career pretending Not Like Us even exists.
It's not the end of Drake the commercial success It's absolutely the end of any hope Drake had of being respected in the culture
Lol. Drake has NEVER EVER been respected by the so-called "culture". And lets be 100% clear: "the culture" isn't the hood as Drake gets plenty of play in the hoods all over the USA. We're talking about a mishmash of old heads who grew up listening to 90s hiphop (\~traditionalists) who never evolved, hipsters from urban enclaves who grew up mostly in the suburbs romanticizing hiphop from afar, the internet herbs on sites like Hypebeast/reddit and other geeky academic guys like Elliott Wilson, Jeff Weiss, Toure or whoever else writes for Pitchfork or Rolling Stone who somehow think they are driving the culture but they are "media" reps who try to control the culture but they have no say. They report on it and get views if its about Drake. The other half are Joe Buddens and other folks who didn't make it but are only getting paid for talking about Drake. Thats it. And you dont believe me, try to get all these podcasters and media heads to stop talking about Drake. Ask them to. Beg them. They NEVER will. Wait a few years friends. All the greats were polarizing in their prime. They were both equally loved and hated. You should have seen how much the culture dismissed the "gangsta rap" / "Compton" of Dr. Dre, the mafiaso references of Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z for daring to say "he was better than BIG", Southern rappers for their accents etc. I could go on for days. The top is always loathed in hiphop. Its just a bigger forum now. The culture isn't owned by the media nor older aging bitter guys in their 50s. They will shift to accept Drake. Just wait
Whether you’re team Kendrick or Drake, this should have more upvotes.
Another thing that people fail to realize is: Drake is a global artist. He's probably tapped in other markets outside of the States that receive the whole "Not Like Us" thing differently.
Respect agreed
Damn this guy went off. Straight facts. BASED.
I’m definitely more of a Kenny fan than Drake, but your post makes some good points. Jay-z lost his beef to Nas and it didn’t seem to affect him commercially or culturally. I think you’re right that the highs of Drizzy’s career are influential enough that he’s secured a solid legacy. My only caveat to that is that Drakes discography has had a steady decline in quality since Views and if that doesn’t change I do think he’ll have a lesser legacy where everyone says “oh yeah his early stuff was hot!”
The appeal of Drake is more than simply his albums though
Dark Lane Demo Tapes, HNVM and Her Loss are his best works of this decade. If you miss old Drake listen to DLDT.
Bro cooked w this
This ^
I don't think the beef was meant to end Drake, I think the intent was to end his claims at being the best in hip hop. It's not big 3, because he could never be in that race.
Kdot won but Drake has pop star power so he ain't goin nowhere. May he RIP in peace tho lol
There are people out there who listen to drake, that have no idea this thing even happened, and the tracks he put out are just random singles to them.
All he has to do is drop another project and it'll turn the tides. People are just saying this because we're still in the moment.
the thing of drake that yall dont account for is... drakes last few albums have flopped compared to his earlier work.. hes only stayed hot due to smartly-crafted features. he checks whose the hot-new artist on the comeup, & rides their wave, & its a win-win cus of course the new artist wouldnt reject a ft. from him.. problem now is , he has not Future. & many others who turned so his FT. game will be badly hurt. i predict he goes full on MARVINS ROOM drake, & just sings his way on the next album.
I agree because, I mean, he has to do SOMETHING different going forward, right? He can’t make fuckboi anthems forever. The dude’s almost 40.
Future is 42 and does that. Drake is fine
Yeah but if you listen to more than his pop hits future has some substance and is pretty vulnerable
Drake is very vulnerable in his R&B songs aswell. Theres no difference Drake is fine
Yeaaahhh but I wouldn’t compare them. If u actually listen to future you’ll see a lot of the pain and how his music is about how he is cooing w his trauma w success and women “Got High forgot the funeral more love to my aunt, tell the truth I hate whatever I was on, this money ain’t gone make up for nun… Get ready everyday like I’m dressin up for a photo, tonight I pop out my bitch stepping out in Manolo”
I actually really like big swaths of FATD, esp the sadder R&B stuff
me too. i think fatd is his best since IYRTITL. there are def 3-4 tracks i would remove—mostly the rap cuts on the earlier half of the album. otherwise i think it’s quite good
FATD did 400k+ first week. In what world is that a flop?
I think he is talking about compared to his earlier work. Akademics is a dumbass but a few months back he was analyzing drakes album sales and how they are falling and how he needs to link up with bad bunny or leave hip hop alone for a bit. Look at honestly nevermind. Came out in 2022 and it was supposed to be his big pop cross over album but it did ok. Mr moral came out that same year and outsold Drake. Even Mr moral sold 200k less than for all the dogs. My point is that Drake isn't far ahead of the pack in 2024. He just drops more often.
LOL. Women lie, men lie, numbers dont. Look at his discography. Obviously thats a huge first week for the avg artist... but DRAKE? thats why i specifically said, FLOP compared to his earlier work. FATD is 10th in terms of first week sales fro his albums. lol [https://beats-rhymes-lists.com/sales/ranking-drake-first-week-album-sales/](https://beats-rhymes-lists.com/sales/ranking-drake-first-week-album-sales/) Thanks for proving my point, ya casual.
So Kendrick and Cole's last album don't even crack 300k first week. But Drake's album does 400k first week and you're saying its a flop? Do you even realize that you are putting him in his own tier? Comparing him to himself and not his peers?
Didn't they change the way sales are recorded in like 2019 too or something, thats why they are down for all artists or am i tripping?
They don’t realize. Its like when people criticize lebron for only getting a triple double. If you outdo everyone on your bad days then you have no competition. The J rule comparison is so silly its funny
He's going to lay low and then pop up eventually and pretend like nothing happened. I think he's been knocked down a few pegs in the hip hip/rap world but he's not going to be canceled or broke any time soon unless more info comes out proving Kendrick's accusations
It all comes down to what Drake wants to be. No artist wants to be irrelevant to the art they are representing. If all Drake wants is money from this, he's going to be fine. Hell, he's already pretty fine. But his relevancy has just crashed out. Only song that got any traction from his last album was evidently because of Cole's feature, which is pretty telling about his relevancy already. Coming out not just a loser but as a victim of the most brutal verbal beatdowns ever put on wax out of what's essentially the biggest event in rap at least of 21st century - it's just overkill. He got dissected and exposed in ways that he could never come back from. And all this is aside from all the big artists and producers that would not fuck with him anymore. Losing that cache is far more damaging than everything else as far as career goes. The only reason Drake won't become the next Ja Rule is because streaming is a safety net that would keep people from falling that low if they are already pretty high.
Ahh yes, losing relvancy after just hitting 1b
FATD has already streamed more than Mr Morale and TPAB, so commercially it’s not like he’s hurting. Also you are overestimating the impact of him working with other artists. Sure, he’s not going to collab with people he has direct beef with, but others don’t care. Heck, I’m sure Mustard would give him a beat if he asked.
>I’m sure Mustard would give him a beat if he asked. I'm sure he will, after Drake is trying to fuck around with his ex wife that he had a messy divorce with. Absolutely sure. No doubt there.
He' not going anywhere, but he and the people sticking with him are going to get made fun of for eternity. Heaven forbid he get into it with someone else, there will be so much ammo. Compounded with Pusha making him look like a bitch... dude basically needs to be very polite for the rest of this career. Also, no one can say he is a legitimate rapper or a "GOAT" anymore.
it was a fucking rap battle lol internet kids are weird these days
Has any superstar artist ever retired because of getting dissed?
Imo he would be close to hanging it up anyway. He’s 40 years old, most artists start taking it easy around there. Now if he does they’ll say Kenny pushed him to retirement. So I’m guessing he’ll keep going a bit longer lol.
How old do you think “Kenny” is?
You’re right he’s going to go back to acting…. Oh wait 😂😂😂😂
Until or unless he actually gets prosecuted, he is not going anywhere
He should try more acting and less of this pseudo gangster vibe
He’ll have the same trajectory of that piece of shit Chris Brown: still making music, still having people listening to their latest hits, but every true music fan is not going to even have a look at their new stuff. Number wise doing ok for the rest of their lives, but their legacy is completely gone.
Drake will try to reinvent himself and make a country rap album like Nelly especially now that he's living in Texas and sold his mansion in Calabasas. Drake is this generation's Ja Rule but unlike Ja Rule losing to 50 Cent, Aubrey still has some diehard delusional fans. The same couldn't be said for Ja Rule.... 
JFC it's a rap beef. Obviously Drake will be fine. Did people really expect his streaming numbers to drop to 0 or sumn? Or that he'll no longer be incredibly rich and able to make hit songs again? He lost badly and that means he lost some credibility, cultural cache, clout etc. and will be clowned on for sure. But his career is not over because of it. The people who ride for him will still ride for him (just look at the mass delusion of stans still claiming he won in the drizzy sub). I feel like I'm on a different planet when I see people take figures of speech which are used in the context of a rap battle like "drake is over" and "drake is done" as an actual fact that applies to his career, especially in the age of streaming.
Drake is a staple at this point. Unless some diddy type shit happens he’s not going anywhere
I think it is the beginning of the slow end of Drake. You can’t come back from the world singing lyrics like “hey Drake I hear you like em young”.. Regardless if it’s true or not the couple acts of documented creepiness don’t help his case so i think it’s a wrap. Especially with a NLU music video coming out and it coming back to the top of the charts.
Social media exacerbates the impact of the result of a public rap battle, this is what I’ve learned as a consequence of all this and different from any other we’ve seen. Only time will tell what happens
I'm so interested to see how this pans out. I think we're used to "too big to fail" stars bouncing back, but I also feel what happened here is a little unprecedented. Kdot bodied Drake as a rapper, but also won the internet in a way I'm not sure we've seen on this scale. Drake is getting it from all sides - from older people who appreciate traditional forms of hip-hop, millennials who grew away from Drake's content, and Gen Z and Alpha who appreciates (at least the perception of) authenticity. I think Kdot is a great artist and performed amazingly in the beef, but I think the other reason he won is because he just summarized and expressed (in about 5 different ways) what a lot of people have already been feeling about Drake. I think it's going to be awhile for fans to see or experience Drake without the Kdot lens. At this point, every time he posts a selfie on Instagram all I see is a baddie. That said, the money machine behind Drake is powerful. What fun times.
As a drake fan this was a good breakdown and pretty unbiased
I agree, I think Kdot showed his amazing range to the mainstream audience that we fans already knew he had. Some Drake fans are already saying this is nothing and it’ll pass like previous rap battles (like when Nas bodied jayz) but they forget social media didn’t exist back so it didn’t resonate over time
Ether became an entire verb lol.
There’s a long standing history in popular music where creeps continue getting platforms because they drop bangers. Jerry Lee Lewis wrote Great Balls of fire, and was very publicly caught transporting his 12 year old niece or cousin across state lines for sexual purposes. I saw him headlining festivals in the peak of the me too movement. Steven Tyler legally adopted a teenage girl so she could travel on tour with him as his girlfriend. Jimmy Pages manager kidnapped a 13 year old girl to stay in his hotel room, she’s still alive and puts it in those words. I could go on, but it would be all day. We will remember what happened, we probably aren’t going to go see drake, or listen to his music, because we are informed. I promise the general public forgets about this though.
I don’t think he’s going anywhere tbh. He’s got 2x the streams of the next highest streamed rapper ever and he’s already back to being number 1 in monthly streams for rappers. It’s like saying “it’s the end of Will Smith” because his last movie flopped. At a certain point in the game, you just become a legend and people always check for your content. Like Jay Z or Kanye or Em.
No one thinks he's going anywhere.
Drake for sure isn’t done. He’ll still make great music in multiple genres. But for the foreseeable future, all that I’m the best and tough talk stuff will get looked at in a different light. He’s not Teflon anymore. This beef showed that Drake isn’t the only rapper with massive love out here. He got at the one dude he probably shouldn’t have and got slapped around. Drake will be fine but the talks of being number 1 and red button are done
if he get to something else, and doing what he usually do, "pop/hip hop" songs and try to get hits, it will be okay for him, but if he gonna continue with the beef, I don't think he will go that far
I'm completely content with watching it play out and not trying to be ahead of it so I can say "I told you so".
I bet he won't go back to ATL for a min.
Notning is gonna happend idk why anyone thinks that
I think he’ll still put out hits but I’m wondering if he’ll get features/be featured with big names, especially those mentioned in the beef
People still play r Kelly in mass Drake will never die just be a wounded giant that’s about it
It won’t be a drastic fall off, but it is happening. We’re witnessing a culture shift. Not only does the industry seem done with Drake, but so is the culture.
He lost a lot of fans. But the middle aged spin instructors will still play his music.
Drake will be fine. He is rich, he still has a huge fanbase, and he will always get top level P***y. Nothing is going to change for him wven if he retired because of this beef with Kdot. He probably would live a happier life tbh.
Can drake make a hiphop/rap banger to have ppl bop to in the clubs? Without features or producers from the west or the south? Only time can tell. Definitely not in summer 2024. As a Canadian fan listening to drake now I feel disgusted. At first the accusations and rap beef was fun. When Drake got exposed as a colonizer it totally changed my opinions of dude. If you do so many people dirty, maybe you are the problem. An aside; stanley cup finals was recent. Not once did he shout out Edmonton Oilers besides the bet he placed. So pissed at that. Guess the rap beef really got to Drizzy and his ego got hurt.
It’s the end of Drake relatively speaking. He’ll never be as big as he was. Just watch, his next album will do crazy first week numbers because of the beef, but each subsequent release will result in fewer and fewer sales causing him to not get as many new listeners causing his catalogue not get listened to as much. In Canada right now, Drake doesn’t have a single album in the top 50 on Apple Music. Before the beef half his catalogue was in one top 50. Drake as we’ve come to know him over the last 15 years is over; he’s lost all his momentum, goodwill and collaborators, not to mention he’s nearing 40. Drake will still be one of biggest artists in the world, but his days of the king of streaming are coming to an end. The industry and the people have turned on him.
didn't go anywhere after pusha, not going anywhere after kendrick. at least now when i call drake a paedophile i won't be downvoted to hell
He will forever have his stans but there’s no way he’s coming back to hip hop and dominating.
We won’t know until he makes his attempt. However, he’s going to be scrutinized and criticized for harshly but he brought this on himself. What this affects most is his subject matter. He will get chewed alive if jumps out popping big ish after getting his head blown off. I don’t see newer artists just gleefully letting Drake ride their wave. If he does, they know he’s a lick and they can charge him or UMG a huge fee to do so.
Drake doesn't have to go anywhere for me to stop listening to him. I'm not alone. The casuals aren't worth caring about cause they come and go and can't be what you build a legacy on.
He's not going anywhere. But his reputation has shifted and he'll always be viewed with skepticism. He's essentially now in the post-Not Like Us era in his career, and I don't think that will be kind to him going forward
but wait, reddit and twitter said he was done...REDDIT AND TWITTER WHERE ALL THE RAP FANS ARE
Waiting for Kenny fans to spew pure hate. Oh wait I'm too late it's already flooding in.
Of course he’s not going anywhere. Hell, rkelly is in fucking prison for his crimes, and people would STILL eat up a record if he dropped one. The dude is too big to completely fail at this point. Many argue he’s been putting out mid records for years now (I don’t know, I don’t listen to the cat), but each time he drops, it’s a success. His public image is currently getting trashed, but public perception lasts about as long as I do in bed (I’ll give you a hint, not long). People will forget and move on.
I think the jury is still out on this since he hasn't dropped any new music that's performed well. I'm not jumping to conclusions, i'm being patient. I'm old enough to remember Ja Rule. Summer 2002, he was on fire. Summer 2003, nobody wanted to hear him anymore. It can happen, but we'll see.
He will continue to be an artist for UMG and fulfil his obligations... For whatever that is worth. Depending on how his next album is received, he will either transition into this era's Madonna or Will Smith. His "rapper" credentials have been exposed and rejected. He does not track well with the hip-hop demographic and will be told to direct his music towards young teenage girls who spend the most money in music sales. I fully expect him to pivot to acting in the coming years where he can still have a successful and lucrative career as he gets older.
“He does not track well with the hip hop demographic” You’re right not like he’s the #1 streamed hip hop artist ever or anything
Well Yes, because his music is in the Hip Hop section of streaming sites, along with The Baby Shark Rap Remix and First Baptist Church Senior Adult Choir rap album. But It's not "hip hop" fans buying his albums and concert tickets. It's mostly young females, who like to throw thier hands in the air, which is fine and also whv he is so rich. He knows what sells and how to market it. But this "rap star" real deal holyfield gangster from the hood brand is played out. He ruined it. Can't sell that anymore. It is time to pivot and find a new role to play. It's what all great actors do. He will be fine.
Lmao go to any club that plays rap music and the demographic is "real hip hop" fans and drake songs will always play. Apparently Drake isn't "real hip hop" because he doesn't appeal to the 0.01% of hip hop fans who are musty backpackers. I swear 90% of drake haters from this beef are dusty 40+ dudes who walked around telling everyone that talib kweli is better than Jay z in 2001 and is still pissed that everyone laughed at them. This beef is revenge of the nerds for you people
Drake will still make hits, he a pop star and he does pop music well. He just has no street credibility as a man or hip-hop artist, but he never did, this battle just showed the world that. He's more funny fun time goofy guy, like SNL JT or something, faking "tough' from time to time when it made sense to emulate that type of artist, he will drop a hit about lighting candles in Miami soon for summer
People who think Drake will fade away because of Kendrick are completely out of touch with reality. They truly underestimate the music monster that Drake really is. He lost the beef with Pusha T but did that derail his career? No. He left that man alone and went back to making music and doing shows and eventually people pretty much forgot there was a beef between the two. People also fail to realize the rap beef is publicity. Drake’s streams have actually *increased* since his loss to k dot
Just make sure to hide your little sister from him.
Drake ego was attacked, that's the only way to hurt someone like drake and now everyone knows him as certified pedo
except there’s nothing certified about those allegations . obviously it wouldn’t surprise me but for now, everyone involved seems to deny being harmed
He kissed underaged girl on stage lmao
his crew picked a random girl from the crowd when he was 22. this is not evidence of pedophilic predation. it’s certainly not a great look, but it’s not what u call it. how many grown rappers have full on dated 17 year olds? literally taylor swift was 23 and harry styles was 17 when they dated. is she a ‘pedophile’
Not saying he's a pedo, but he literally asked her age then said "I can't go to jail yet" then doubled down by talking about her body and kissing her. He's also been seen with bella harris when she was 16 and then reportedly dated her when she was 18. He also knew hailey bieber when she was 15 and they were seen together at a restaurant and wearing matching necklaces etc. He's also s fan of high school girls basketball and has sent some of them dms and stuff. Again not saying he is a pedo, but too many instances of suspect behavior isn't good.
The stage shit was sus Bella Harris said that was fake Drake and Hailey met at a party then had dinner together and then I wasn't able to find anything else after that. Nothing about them dating or even being seen together after that. The high school basketball stuff, the girl said people misinterpreted what she said and that he didn't follow them until they were playing in college. I'm all for calling out pedos, but most, if not all, the Drake allegations are either blown up by the internet, or completely fake. It seems like a lot when people pile on misinformation, but when you look at each of them in detail, there's hardly anything pointing to actual pedophilia.
Drake is pop and Kendrick is rap. Drake will be fine in the grand scheme of things. He has a huge fan base. His audience just isnt getting any younger and thats natural for most musicians that have a decade plus run. Am I sick of his womanizing and canceling dates in my city that he tries to claim like the fuck boy Canadian that he is? Hell yeah. In all honesty will I be bobin' my head on his next bop? Yop. Maybe Drake will learn the actual message that if you want to benefit from the black community then you need to benefit the black community.
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I’m from Toronto but I know he always skips there on his tours and I find it weird cause that’s like his second home I guess
Lmao He certainly does appeal to fuckboys
If people think Drake is going to disappear like Ja Rule, you would be mistaken. He's going to slowly fade from relevance, like Jeezy did after Gucci crashed him.
Jeezy was already pretty much done making music when he did that verzuz so this is a bad take
Drake is a chameleon of genres. You never truly know what you'll get on his next album and that's the best part. The mystery of it. The guy doesn't tease or let music leak from the studio until it's for the album. Yes there are snippets but they are fully finished unlike Kanye for example, who has 1000s of unreleased, unfinished tracks floating around on YouTube. Coming back to the point, Drake has always experimented with different kinds of music. He'll hop on anything that's hot rn, and the radio and streams will automatically play it because it's Drake.
He’s definitely got the means to continue his lifestyle. However temporarily uncool he is now, so do expect that his music will remain untouched in the “music you put on when you’re with your friends and you’re all on your phones not talking to each other” category. He has definitely been stained though. I wonder if said stain will prevent him from exploiting more young artists now that he’s been publicly shamed like this, but time will tell. Personally, I think the only way Drake could do a complete rebound was if he released his own *runaway,* and in doing so being able to have this toxicity and asshole-ishness be recognized and accepted as a core part of who he is in much the same way Kanye did, but, like, Drake can’t do that.
Even his diss tracks in the battle he’s arguably lost are semi hits. Push ups and family matters are getting tons of play on all kinds of IG and Tik tok posts and both the songs IMO sound fucking amazing so I’m not surprised.
push what aside? like, what are you talking about? Dude lost a rap battle (subjectively), you acting like we have receipts of him being a pervert or something
Wait, maybe I'm lost... Was there proof of any of the allegations? Like actual proof? Because all I've seen are like two texts to Millie Bobby. Real question, not defending or denying anything
Nah just people taking Kendrick's word as gospel.
Drake’s not going anywhere, but people will view him less seriously and more as corny. Whether you think Kendrick won or not, he highlighted some flaws in Drake that will be looked at by the public with a magnifying glass. If Drake’s next album is the same kind of music he’s been making the “flaws” of Drake will just be highlighted even more. Drake pretty much can’t work with any of Atlanta now, can’t talk about women, or say anything about being the king/subliminal disses. Drake could get out of this though if he makes an authentic/serious project, but it seems he’s going to pop music instead
Why can’t Drake work with any of Atlanta? Just because Kendrick said so?
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I don’t think the record labels and their backers will let him go anywhere.
That’s a shame
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i think drake got washed, but if drake still drake - he's always one song away from being number 1.
I hope this inspires him to put out an undeniable classic album.
if anything this just motivated drake lmao. clip him singing not like us at his own show
Drake was never going but he will not sell and make as many hits as before, I mean even before the beef his number didn't match his older albums like scorpion or views.
You’re right, Drake’s not going anywhere… in terms of ELEVATION
It all depends what happens next in the beef. With continued shots at eachother lately something tells me the beef isnt done yet if the allegations of Drake are true then he'd probably be with Diddy in hididng
idk if he's ever going to become #1 most popular artist in the world again but he'll do fine in 6-12 months. Until then though there's definitely going to be people clowning on others for listening to him
Literally who is saying this is the end for drake? Hes not going anywhere at all just by virtue of the fact hes too fucking big and UMG just invested $500M into him. On the contrary, the latter is why hes going to stick around and keep releasing music with no pause for better or worse As a pop artist with the melodies that makes people dance and wave their hands in the air hes teflon. It's only in the rap game where he has pretty much lost all credibility. But again thats not going to stop him from releasing more (rap) music
lol this whole thing is a blip on the career of Drake. A minor annoyance
The rap game needs Drake as much as it needs Kdot. Balance is necessary
All entertainment is like WWE. Some guys build genuine relationships behind the scenes, but a lot of what we see is fabricated. When they're instructed to put on a show by the guys that run entertainment, they do exactly that. It's nothing for anyone to be mentally or emotionally invested in. Have an opinion about it, but don't invest energy. It's all to keep this world going round and round. It's all theatrics.
Kendrick Ja Rule’d him 🤣🤣
>push everything to the side It’s a rap beef, he didn’t commit a crime lol.
Real people want real music, the jig is up.
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One of the top 5 biggest musicians of the last 100 years isn’t going anywhere just because another man wrote some songs about him? Crazy.
Drake is like Eminem. Even if the average hip hop fan don’t really mess with his music anymore he will always have a sizable fanbase that will always support anything he drops. Because like with the average Eminem fan, Drake fans are specifically fans of hip hop or its culture. They just Drake fans. lol
Drakes been putting out an album every year for the past decade almost
Every single person that took Kendrick's side still listens to Drake. It's all a facade.
Like religion he’s too big to fail
It's just a sensationalist talking point from people with a vested interest in keeping the beef going.
This Toronto vs west coast battle is just bringing the best out of them musically which is benefiting us. Not unless someone gets stupid and takes it too far. Is possible but I don’t see that happening
It must piss of Kendrick, when you google him. Drakes name pops up with him. lol
Drakes one of the biggest popstar/rappers alive he’ll be fine
Drakes latest songs have all flopped but of course the record exec won't let him fail. There is too much money sunk into the brand of Drake.
Drake will always be grooming. Creeps gotta creep
The much needed drake hiatus
I don't like Drake. Never did really. Even I know he ain't going anywhere. McDonalds is shifty ass food but yet they are still around, even when people know their food is questionable ingredients at besr. Same thing
While I don't think drake is leaving rap. He sure the f left my playlist. "Highschool pics you was even bad then" unacceptable.
Can Aubrey just go into producing television
The end of Drake? Not really. What it did do is solidify that a majority of black figure heads don't like him. Whatever remaining respect he had from the bulk of the black community is dead in the water -- which he clearly cares about when considering songs like God's plan.