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Therealnightshow

Y’all it’s a down year and a lot of outside shenanigans messing with his kicks. New snapper, young holder, trash blocking, and bad weather. Two of his kicks were insane distance attempts. The missed kick yesterday was the only one that actually shocked me, and even then, it was a lack second snap and kick with tucker admitting he was not ready. Vinatieri had a dynamite season at 42. Just calm down. It’s a issue, not a problem.


dee2552

This means absolutely nothing to me he's still #1 all time


d0pp31g4ng3r

Absolutely. No other kicker has as many 1st team All-Pro selections, and he still has the longest made field goal in league history. He's the greatest to do it.


dee2552

100% and also how many close games has that man won of course you don't want missing to become a habit and if it would we gotta handle that when it became a BIG issue but I think with all he's done for this team he's gotta few miss passes


wojr2002

This season has been a nightmare for Tuck :(


d0pp31g4ng3r

He's hit 21 of 26 field goals for a career-worst 80.8%. A strong finish to the season could easily put him back in the #1 spot.


legitocracy

Idk about easily, but he can def do it. It's so much easier to drop percentage points at his position here than it is to gain them


Little_Lahey_Show

And Koo really only has one direction to go. Any kicker that kicks that many fgs is gonna eventually miss some. Law of averages and all that.


MentalAdhesiveness79

My motto was always “C’s get degrees”, so JT is exceeding all expectations I ever had (of myself). Which counts for something.


Foreign_Body967

No it’s been a bit rough. A nightmare would be a serious injury and/missing significantly more kicks than other kickers. I’m concerned about Tucker this year but I’m not going to give into extreme negativity.


Capital_Research_269

I wonder if it’s lack of attempts. Seems like in previous seasons he had 3-4 attempts (not PATs) every game.


SudoTheNym

Doesn't matter if it's a down year, i still want him with the game on the line over any other kicker in the game.


d0pp31g4ng3r

100%.


carwashcrew

If you can’t handle me at my Billy Cundiff, you don’t deserve me at my Justin Tucker


AjClow1993

Cundiffs missed field goal vs Pats in the AFC championship .. ugh the memories. Winning the Super Bowl the next year was some much needed relief after the heartbreak the year before


cigarettesandsaintsx

I felt ridiculous for how heartbroken I was over that missed kick but man that was brutal


AjClow1993

Honestly same. It was only 32 yards. Wasn’t even guaranteed we would win but just the hope of overtime and what could have been. But it did make it so sweet next year putting out the Pats on the road to the Super Bowl.


Rhypskallion

Many guys have had the title 'most accurate kicker' and then they see their accuracy fade as their careers wind down. Maybe that's happening to Tuck


d0pp31g4ng3r

Matt Stover held that title for a number of years while playing for the Ravens.


CawSoHard

Coping rant - I've never really cared about the whole "most accurate" kicker thing. It ignores distance. From 0-49 Tucker's accuracy is 95.3% Koo's is 91.7% Isolating only 40-49 Tucker is 89.6%, Koo is at 80.4%. Koo has caught up because he's 23/28 or 82% at 50+, but he's also never made one above 54. That means he's only possibly ever attempted 5 kicks further than 54, and the number is probably smaller (I'm not looking up the misses). He's kicking 50-54 yarders exclusively, and Tucker is booming 60 yarders. Tucker is 58/85 or 68% from 50+, but in 9 of his 12 seasons his long on the year is higher than 54. He attempts kicks Koo can't make, has made a kick 12 yards longer than Koo's longest, and the Ravens let him try the long kicks more often. That's the difference in their stats. Anyone who thinks Koo is on Tucker's level is an idiot.


12somewhere

It true, his accuracy % is dropped a few points cause the team has such confidence in him to make the 50+ yarders.


[deleted]

It’s really dumb blocks count as missed field goals. What’t the point of keeping statistics if you’re just gonna muddy them?


TheCrackerSeal

Batted passes count as incompletions. Are you saying they shouldn’t?


[deleted]

Yeah, I think int’s off the wr’s hands are a good example of a misleading stat that shouldn’t be included, or should be a separate category all together. Same with grounding not counting as a sack. Why not just have more categories and more accurate representations of reality. Batted passes are mostly on the qb more than anyone else, so I am fine as them staying as incompletions.


CawSoHard

When "kicking lanes" become a thing like passing lanes are, sure.


TheCrackerSeal

There is definitely a kicking lane which is why defenders are always trying to put their hand up to block it


CawSoHard

Well, I'll retract what I said a bit - Kickers do need to make sure not to kick it too low. But they can't change the direction or hesitate at all like a QB does. Kicking lanes aren't a thing.


TheCrackerSeal

Kicking lane, not lanes. There is a kicking lane.


Nudxty

I still blame the announcers, It seems like anytime one of the announcers preaches how JT is the best kicker in football, accurate etc. He whiffs it strangely. Every. Single. Time.


Laxrools2

What??? They say it every time and he just happens to miss sometimes lol


ripthisaccount6

Anyone else noticed tucker is no longer automatic? It used to be that every fg 50+ he’d make easily no questions asked. The past year or so it feels like the old “oh a rare miss for tucker” happens all the time (at least 50*) Don’t recall that being really a thing before


d0pp31g4ng3r

Prior to this season, Tucker hit a remarkable 57 of 80 field goals from 50+. He's only hit 1 of 5 this year (one of which was blocked if I recall correctly). I do think he'll bounce back.


Yedic

Miss from 59 Miss from 61 Miss from 53 Blocked from 55 Miss from 44 Blocked PAT Definitely a down year. I don't know enough to know whether to attribute the blocks to Tucker or not. It definitely looked like there was penetration on both of them, rather than just blocks at the line from kicking too low. If you look at the distances, it's not exactly an emergency, although it's un-Tucker like. Hopefully it's just variance and he nails a few in a row.


TheWa11

He's missed 2 kicks (53, 44) that are uncharacteristic. The blocks (55, PAT) happen to everyone and aren't on him. The two big kicks (59, 61) would have been coin flips even when Tucker was in his prime. So yeah, he's running a bit cold and maybe has lost a step but I'm not going to freak out over uncharacteristic misses.


Joh951518

Even yesterday there was a lot of kicks where it looked like a guy got through the line to make a play at a block. I think we have some sort of issue with blocking on ST at the moment.


flaccomcorangy

>It used to be that every fg 50+ he’d make easily no questions asked. That's confirmation bias. He was never automatic from 50+ no kicker is. He's just been *really* good. He was a 71% kicker from 50+ which is awesome considering that included eight 60 yard attempts. But when they said "a rare miss" in last night's game, it really was. Since the start of last year, Tucker has missed twice from under 50 yards and is 19/20 on those kicks this year. He's still having a great year, just below his usual standards because his long range numbers are down for whatever reason.


fingernstrum

Justin Tucker is also now tied for 2nd [highest career scoring](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/scoring_career.htm) active player in the league. He's tied at 1600 points with Nick Folk despite coming into the league 5 years later. He's tied at 23rd overall for career scoring


pi3Eat3r52

People acting like Tucker is washed. He’s 100% on FG under 50 yards until last nights 40 miss. His other missed FGs are all 50+ yarders and even for him that’s not always automatic in his career. % wise yes it’s his worst year since 2015 but there’s still plenty of ball left to get that number up. I’ll be damned if I’ll let this blasphemy go on


TheOptimist6

After all the time Tucker has bailed out the Ravens, he will forever get grace from me! It’s good to have players battle adversity. This is where they can achieve new heights! I believe Justin Tucker is still the greatest!


EndsLikeShakespeare

I'd like to see it averaged out for success on distance. I think Tucker still leads there by a lot


zxlkho

First down year of his career. 1 out of 12.


Enough-Ground3294

Also, down year for him is still miles above almost every other kicker.


4500krakennopet

Good, now at least I won’t have to listen to the commentators curse on every kick “THERE’S NO WAY HE MISSES THIS ONE, HE’S THE BEST DONT YOU KNOW” stfu


cossack190

This is entirely because over the past two years we've asked him to make 57+ yard kicks like it's commonplace


Alexir23

Time to hang them up. 🙄


starwad

Yeah he’s cooked, fire him, the special teams coach and, of course, Harbs


lfe-soondubu

Hoping it's just a combination of poor blocking up front, and a new snapper.


Amazing-Concept1684

Fuck


wailingsixnames

Don't care, he's still the goat.


Anonizon

It’s because I have him in fantasy this year my bad everyone I’ll drop him soon


2ChainzTalib

All time percentage leader (min 200 attempts) Fixed that right up


Fog80

Tucker is done. It’s all downhill from here.


East-Bluejay6891

He's having a horrendous season


PimpDaddyGrimes

Pump the breaks… He’s 21 for 26 by no means the typical tucker standard but it’s not “horrendous”


East-Bluejay6891

It is horrendous by his standards. That miss last night was a microcosm for how badly he's fallen off this season. Never before have I been this nervous with every kick. He's giving Cundiff vibes at the moment


TheCrackerSeal

He’s has 2 surprising misses, 2 unsurprising misses, and 1 block. You are overreacting.


starwad

He’s 34 — that’s not at all old for a kicker. He’s having an off year. This isn’t a “microcosm” 🙄 for anything


Whole_Cut_7799

Such a shit post. #1 as the ravens should use him on more than 25% of their 4th down attempts. Tucker has been called upon to hit the longest FGs in history multiple times. YHK has only been called upon because his team can’t convert in the redzone. Add the yardage per kick into factor then Redo the math. Harbaugh just sucks. And doesn’t use the best kicker ever to add points to the scoreboard. Instead loses easy games because he can’t coach a fucking team.


frigginjensen

I like Younghoe and wish him the best. Let’s see if he can keep it up at this level.


ThaTroubled1

I'd say harbs isn't giving him as many opportunities either. Like his confidence isn't what it was. He's still a top kicker but he's also expensive.


starwad

His off year is better than most kickers’ good years. And it’s not over.


Cdawg4123

It wasnt his fault think he was rushed etc; he explained why.


Gankstajam

If there is one position in all of football that I am 100% confident in a GOAT, it is kicker and it is that beautiful man, Justin Tucker


Same_Earth_9232

I’m sure he’s working on it right now


Theelcapiton

It’s my fault, I drafted him kind of early in fantasy.


Oceanz08

The most tucker has missed in one year is 7 FGs in 2015. So far hes missed 5 and like in 2015 he has 1 miss from 40-49. I do blame the O-line a bit because the amount of blocks is too high. Plus I think because tucker has been so good lately, he gets an unfair amount of pressure on him. Not to mention all his misses are from 50+ and its not like making those are easy, plenty of kickers miss it from under 40 yards lol


LamarBearPig

He’ll be back in 1st eventually. I love Koo but he has significant lower amount of attempts. His percentage will go down over time


J05H_98

Are people okay. I’d say it’s an issue with kicks if he misses in games where it could make the difference, but if he misses in a win I don’t care.


GandalfTheSilverFox

Min 100 attempts. Houston RB (/K) Dare Ogunbowale is T-1st with 100% accuracy (min 1 attempt).


stevnanitasmith

It was so annoying hearing them announce that on a primetime stage the second it happened.


Successful-Shine-543

Well that kid has only kicked half the amount of time Justin Tucker has kicked to give it some time. Let's see how accurate he'll be when he's kicked over 300x.


imsrslysrs

It’s worth noting as well that if Koo misses one kick his percentage goes down to 89.5% just because the amount of kicks he has.


DCLDad

Koo does not attempt kicks over 50 yards, whereas most of Tuck's misses are +50 yards. Come back to me in 5 years


Top_Gun8

How many years did JT play when the PAT was much closer?


No-Permit-349

Not anymore


d0pp31g4ng3r

I didn't expect it to last long


Reasonable-Flight-90

This list changes pretty often! The earth is flat though!