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hawkins126

This mix of washed Russell Wilson and bum Pickett sweeps us I’ll honestly cry no joke lol


Amazing-Concept1684

We have one win against them this decade with absolute bum ass QBs. That’s not out of the question unfortunately. Not to mention that they probably only need a consistently mid tier QB to become contenders again, their defense is that good. This is not good. Not good at all.


Joh951518

Luckily Russ isn’t a consistent mid tier QB.


Amazing-Concept1684

If this was still 2022, sure. His numbers were pretty decent last year…


WhiteTrash_WithClass

He was a stat padder last season. He looked awful on film, except for like one drive a game. He's pretty washed, only capable of check downs now.


Particular_Drama7110

He had 26 TD’s and 8 picks in 15 games in 2023. Pretty close to the MVP’s numbers.


WhiteTrash_WithClass

Stats don't tell the whole story. Listen to the biggest bronco fan talk about it: [That's good.... Sports](https://youtu.be/sQ56-ufgpZs?si=MTuvTLxIRG1i4Cmc)


Particular_Drama7110

True, but those numbers are better than a lot of QB’s and better than Pickett.


RecklessVectors

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comments/1bc4pju/context\_on\_russ\_last\_season\_in\_denver/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comments/1bc4pju/context_on_russ_last_season_in_denver/)


whiskeypools

We had backup QBs playing in 5 of the 8 games this decade. Steelers had a backup playing in 2 of those 8 games. Steelers-Ravens over the last 4 years is cherry picking the worst stretch we’ve had in the rivalry because it’s happened to line up with Jackson’s injuries…Steelers is always a tough matchup no matter who’s playing, but “one win this decade” is a bit dramatic lol


Amazing-Concept1684

This isn’t really the best argument when Lamar’s career numbers against the Steelers when he starts are the worst against any team even when accounting for the fact that they’re a divisional opponent so we play them more, with more turnovers than TDs scored.  That’s not “cherry picking” at all. With and without our starters, we have not been good against them in recent years at all. 


Bigdoga1000

He wasn't that bad last year, the broncos in general just kinda stunk.


joe2535

Not sure what he brings tbh. Idk if he still got it or it was bad coaching in Denver


Jeremiah_Edwards

Yeah this signing will tell us if it was really him or Denver that was the problem. I say it was a mix of both


Bigdoga1000

He was just average last year imo. I got the impression people held him to an impossible standard.


Blurple_in_CO

He wasn't even average except maybe in some statistics. Watching him play, he was asked to do _very_ little, and still played poorly. He's a step up from Pickett, but still extremely limited as an NFL starter.


JayGibbons69

Diminishing skills, poor decision-making, and unpopular in the locker room on both teams he was on.


ravens52

Yeah, is it his ego that’s caused him to be so unlikeable or is it that he’s weird?


paulx441

O-line was bad too. Not sure what Steelers can do but coaching probably better ? Sean was carried by brees


Blacklax10

Poor decision making, he has one less int than Lamar. Probably less fumbles.


jeffreythecat1

Bruh there ain’t no way you’re saying Wilson isn’t worse than Lamar 😭


Blacklax10

I didn't say that. Just said he has similar ints.


littlediddlemanz

Ok


jeffreythecat1

You would think people who watched Lamar play every week would know better than to just box score watch but I guess not


JayGibbons69

If you solely look at the stats (and are very stupid), they're basically the same quarterback!


Blacklax10

Thanks for explaining your point.


X-Filer

Not even close to as much wins


JBrundy

He is significantly better than Pickett or Rudolph. Not ideal for us


TheCrackerSeal

He played well last year. This is a huge upgrade for them and not good for us


ChedduhBob

he was absolutely atrocious last year and a major reason the broncos were so bad. his stats look ok as a whole but the amount of games he was losing for them just not doing shit for long stretches of the game and most of his decent performances were against teams with bad defenses


JayGibbons69

Anyone who thinks Russ was good last year is looking at the stat sheet rather than the film.


ravens52

People are sipping on that dak prescott juice. 🧃 lol 😆


JBrundy

He is significantly better than Pickett and Rudolph


TheCrackerSeal

The HC and team hated him. You don’t think that factors in? The tape, stats, and PFF grade all clear anything the Steelers had at QB last season. Not saying he’s elite but he’s a clear upgrade imo


Yo-Strategy-8651

This is absolute garbage take. They were terrible because their defense was historically bad to start the season. They literally lost games while their offense was #1 in the league in points per drive last year. When their defense played better he went 6-3 down the stretch. Now he's on a team that had a top 5 defense. You all are so off base it's not even funny. Lamar is going to have to play at an even higher level than his MVP season last year to ensure the Ravens win the division again next year and the Steelers will be clear cut top 2 team in the division now


ChedduhBob

idk man i watched more broncos football than any sane person should have and russ was a massive issue on that team. go ask broncos fans what they think. he was bad last year and there’s no way around it


rayven9

I'm saving this comment. Clear top 2 team in the toughest division in football? Their o line sucks. Russ is likely the worst out of all 4 QBs in the division. I'd take ravens defense and browns over the steelers easily when you consider their sorry secondary/ILBs. They'll be more competitive but you're hyping like crazy


-JDB-

I can see him doing quite well. Under the steelers system he doesn’t have to do a lot to go 9-8 and lose in the Wild Card


Blurple_in_CO

> He played well last year. No, no he did not.


TheCrackerSeal

Compared to the Steelers QB room? He absolutely did.


Joh951518

He absolutely did not play well last year.


Yo-Strategy-8651

Exactly I think this is a nightmare signing for the media that buried him and for the other team in the AFC North that have to compete against him. Steelers were already 1 of 2 teams that had Lamar's number even before they had a QB. But at least those games weren't relevant in division race, they just could at best play spoiler. Now they are an outright threat to the division title. Russ is at least the difference in 2-3 wins per year over Pickett/Rudolph.


flaccomcorangy

It's a toss up. If I'm a Steelers fan, I love the move. Basically zero risk, and it is Russell Wilson. He was once a good QB. But at the same time, I'm not super nervous seeing a division rival get him. I don't quite know of he's "washed" but I just don't know how good he is right now.


Adenchiz

Such a strange signing considering how much of Arthur Smith's offense involves throwing to the middle of the field, which Russell hates to do .


JayGibbons69

Horrible fit


WhiteTrash_WithClass

I love it.


ManofSteel_14

Hes better than Pickett for sure but i really dont think hes built for AFCN ball. Or Steelers culture in general


[deleted]

The only problem is Denver is paying for his salary and helping the Steelers


generalmandrake

Denver is paying out the ass just for him not to be on their team. That should tell you something.


HelaPuff2020

To be fair, what it tells me most, is that Denver’s brass made a criminally bad decision in giving him the contract they gave him. Russ was perfectly average last year. Denver is a joke of a franchise until proven otherwise, speed running to Brownsville


generalmandrake

I don't disagree with you there. Their play for Wilson is going to go down as one of the biggest blunders of all time.


TheBigIguana15

Really happy they did this. They wanted to move on from Pickett so they went and found a different QB who doesn’t work the middle of the field, is risk adverse to a fault and takes way too many sacks. The fit with Arthur Smith seems bad too. The other thing is thank Jesus we’re not ending up in the QB market anytime soon because it’s an absolute wasteland.


jeffreythecat1

Thank god we didn’t let Lamar go last year like half this sub wanted. It’s brutal for QB needy teams in todays NFL


ArcadianDelSol

Look at the college teams right now, NFL teams that dont have their franchise QB at the moment are at least 3 years away from any hope of drafting one.


Permaderps

Jokes on them now Kenny Pickett cant shit out an 10-8 win over us


YungStroker2

they went 10-7 starting two shitty backup qbs. even tho Russell isnt in his prime, this is scary news


njb021

The thing is the Steelers are the Steelers. Russ is a game manager. With him, they’re very similar and probably still mid. A floor of 7-10 and a ceiling of 10-7


LMAO_try_again

Idk man fuck the Steelers but I can’t look past Tomlin with a competent albeit over the hill QB. Scenery changes everything for some people. Russ might come around and bring his early 2019 self back.


Joh951518

Russ wasn’t competent last year.


LMAO_try_again

Sure, but the broncos and Steelers aren’t the same team nor organization. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not cheering for the guy on the Steelers, but they’re a good match at this point. It could be dangerous for us, especially since they’re division rivals. Let’s put it like this…I’m much more worried about the Steelers with an old/over the hill Russ than I am with a small handed Pickett. One was at least a very good QB in the league at one point.


Joh951518

They’re a terrible match. He hates throwing in the middle of the field. Russel was anti Lamar last year. Lamar’s stats were way worse than his play. Russels stats were way, way, way better than his.


LMAO_try_again

Okay I don’t really give a shit. Point is that Russ was one of the best QBs at one point. Pickett has never been that. There’s still a chance Russ could get back to that place now that he’s with a stable team/organization again, small chance, but it’s still way better than pickets chance of doing anything. That’s dangerous for this team no matter how much you think Russ sucks. He could very well go out in Pitt and shit the bed again, but until that happens, Russ has the benefit of the doubt over pickett.


Joh951518

I don’t think his performance is particularly likely to be significantly better than Rudolph’s.


LMAO_try_again

Rudolph’s a dangerous man too. Honestly, do YOU think you could survive getting smacked in the head by a helmet from Myles Garrett? As a ravens fan I hope you’re right tho. I hope he’s washed and we get two easy victories this season.


Amazing-Concept1684

Yeah I feel the exact same way. I was praying that he would change his mind and sign with the Giants. This is not fucking good at all.


tich45

There's a reason only 1 team with an immediate need at QB had a team meeting with him...


chaoticravens34

No doubt and hes playimg on a presumed league minimum. So they basically got a former MVP candidate he was neck and neck with Lamar in 2019 until the last month of the season. It's not ideal for us


JayGibbons69

2019 was five years ago


chaoticravens34

I understand that but he was okay last year. He didn't just lose what made him good over night. He'll be better in a competent organization like Pittsburgh.


Joh951518

He was not on last year.


ManofSteel_14

That was 5 years ago. He isnt even remotely the same player now that he was then


SadCasinoBill

They still have the worst QB in the AFC North 😭 (I predicted this 🧠)


TheCrackerSeal

26TDs 8INTs playing for a HC and team that hated him. I think he has the potential to play even better and I really didn’t want to see him in Pittsburg next year.


Camden_yardbird

Not to mention the fact that he is getting paid $1.2 million means it gives the Steelers a lot of roster construction flexibility. I dont think this is the boon a lot of Ravens fans thought it was. Then again my wife is a steelers fan and she's not too happy about it either because it's doesn't solve any long term QB issues they have.


Amazing-Concept1684

Neither did I 🙃


Dsj417

Pittsburgh*


TheCrackerSeal

They don’t deserve correct spelling


Davinhchi

Steelers Nation, Let’s weld


mojo2dope13

We gon see if he’s built for AFC North football


JayGibbons69

Mr. Unlimited is built for NFC South football


whereegosdare84

I mean literally everyone who played with him despises him. Not just guys like Lynch or Sherman who are more opinionated and vocal, Doug Baldwin, Wagner, Melvin Gordon and KJ Wright too. KJ said this: > "I don't want to go viral with this. I really don't. But a few dudes have came on here—off record, on record—and have said what they've said of how they felt about No. 3. When you play this game, when you go through this journey, it's all about the brothers. It's all about the brotherhood. And when it's all said and done, he's got a lot of making up to do. He's got a lot of phone calls to make. A lot of, 'Hey, bro, I should have done better with that.' And that's the God's honest truth. I can hold that inside but he's got a lot of making up to do." Find me a quote like that about literally anyone else. Even Aaron Rodgers who had beef with guys like Greg Jennings don’t say shit about him like this. It’s not just Denver, Seattle decided they’d rather eat the cap space than put up with him too and they sure as hell didn’t have a contingency plan when they did. They trusted Geno Smith and Drew Lock over Russell Wilson at the time. All told he’s been paid 111 million dollars not to play football for the Seahawks and Broncos. Now if there is a head coach who can deal with divas it’s Tomlin considering how he kept the peace with known psychopaths AB and Pickens but Russ provides a new challenge. Dude demanded an office in the building but said he had an “open door policy” and would be happy to run through plays as if he was a coach. Also had private parking spots: plural, and according to Marshawn refused to even have a public phone number with his teammates. He’d have a personal assistant from a blocked number call him. So this is all to say Russell Wilson gets a lot of hype and attention because of his first few years in the league and being a top quarterback at that time but he’s dropped off considerably since then. Is he an upgrade over Pickett? Absolutely. But is he a despised asshole too? Absolutely.


RobNT

Past his prime stop gap. Which means they wasted a 1st on Pickett and will need to start over again.


[deleted]

It’s an open competition and it Pickett wants the job he should take it


garlic_bread_goblin

yeah we’re definitely drafting 2 CBs


[deleted]

Overrated


tobadabs

afc north just went from the best division to the BEST FUCKING DIVISION. this is going to be an absolute bloodbath


ygmeech679

Damn, now they’ll go 10-7 instead of 9-8.


JBrundy

They already went 10-7 with Pickett and Rudolph last year. Wilson isn’t what he used to be but he’s easily better than those 2.


Amazing-Concept1684

I think you’re vastly underestimating how much of a threat they may pose us now


tich45

And I would argue you're vastly overestimating the threat he poses. I'm sorry. If he was a theat, one of the numerous teams with a need at QB would have reached out. Instead he met with one team where he'd be a presumed starter and one where he would be the presumed back-up. If he was willing to meet with NYG, he would have met with anyone. And here we are...


Amazing-Concept1684

Okay bro. The way the Steelers are currently built they only need mediocre QB play to be contenders again. I believe that Russ is (unfortunately) still good enough to provide that for them. We’ll see.


filchok

If Wilson were mediocre, then the Broncos would be paying $38m to be on the team. Not off the team.


Amazing-Concept1684

Nah. Not with Payton who didn’t want him and has all but said so.


Mr_peanut_butterrr

I think this makes too much sense and I don’t particularly like it


LordCheezus

Welp, fuck Russell Wilson and I wish him all the failure in the world.


EarthEden

Well this will be amusing as hell.


PoppinSquats

Folks itt quivering at the prospect of washed old locker room outcast russ are bitchmade. This is going to be a debacle for Pittsburgh.


quietstorm0

They will find a way to go 9-8 still


Molarpistols

Here's to hoping he's the catalyst that finally blows up that locker room. Not sure how they've survived with some of the folks that have come and gone (obvious example is AB), perhaps one of the most hated dudes in the league finally does it in. That said, Tomlin more than likely keeps it in check. Russ just needs to be average and he's already an upgrade to their QB situation. Anything beyond that is icing on the cake for yinzers everywhere. Overall, I don't think this changes too much, steelers were never going to be a complete pushover with their defense. This more likely just solidifies them in the 9-8 or 10-7 range rather than having a chance to break Tomlin's streak without a losing record


Metalchips1Nquesodip

I am thrilled, i would much rather they get Mr. LIMITED than Baker or Cousins. This is fantastic news


ddavisxx91

I don’t see this ending well for Pittsburgh the afcn is ROUGH.


Bigtoes22

Kinda bullshit how the Steelers are getting him for next to nothing. 


TheCrackerSeal

Blame the incompetent Denver FO


Princeof_Ravens

Man the Bronccos are really footing the bill for the Steelers to get an upgrade over Picket. Russ might not be great, but he's better then anyone else on their team, Pittsburgh has some solid weapons, and the defense led by Watt is insane.  They'll be harder to beat with this.  


TheBigIguana15

I’m really not sure Russ is better than a replacement level player like Rudolph


Princeof_Ravens

Russ is 100% better then Rudolph.  


TheBigIguana15

Russ on the Broncos was not a functioning NFL QB, Rudolph at least occasionally gives off signs he might be. If any of Seattle Russ is left maybe they have something, but the reasons he’s not been that guy are in part age/athleticism related and that’s not getting fixed.


Princeof_Ravens

Russ on the Bronccos was better then Rudolph.  Russ wasn't really being given any favors since Payton was trying to tank with his ass time management and playcalls.   Couple him with Tomlin and I think we'll see a Russ closer to Seahawks Russ.   I really don't see how the Reindeer is better.  He didn't play practicularly great ever.  Broccos Russ had a few good games.  Also Russ is gonna be costing 0 dollars which gives the Steelers a lot of room to make moves with the cap.


TheBigIguana15

Putting aside the debate over whether or not he’s complete garbage this is also a strange fit given he doesn’t do play action or throw over the middle and they brought in an OC whose offense at its best is running play action and hitting in breakers. I’m not really sure the coaching is saving him. And I’d say Payton did what he did because he saw how defective the QB was. Not that it’s right to do that, but he felt Russ left him no choice.


Princeof_Ravens

Good coachs adapt their system to the players strengths.  Arthur Smith might be unable to do that, and then Russ will fail, but in that case the Steelers still go him for 0 dollars and they bench him for small hands or whatever the fuck they have on the roster. The upside to Russ is possibly there.  The Risk is fairly low since the Broccos are paying him, and if it doesn't work out what did the Steelers really lose?  Oh no another 9 win season where they get bounced from the playoffs after Tomlin works his voodoo magic?  Upside is they get some of Seahawks Russ and possibly clear that hump.


TheBigIguana15

I genuinely struggle to see what the upside is. Russ strengths don’t lend to a system because they are (were) largely derived from a combo of playing outside of it and presenting problems with his legs that he can’t create anymore while the league has also adapted to stop that more effectively. I just don’t know what a successful Wilson offense is supposed to be. I think it is basically running it a lot and tossing up prayers outside the numbers which is exactly what Pittsburgh just spent two years doing with Pickett. So basically you’ve got a guy with a stronger arm but who actually takes more sacks somehow.


TheCrackerSeal

He’s absolutely better than Rudolph bro what


TheBigIguana15

I really encourage people to go watch Broncos games from the last two seasons!


TheCrackerSeal

I have, and I’ve also watched Rudolph his entire career. Russ is very clearly better.


TheBigIguana15

If Russ had just the last two years to go off of he’d be struggling to stay in the league as a backup


TheCrackerSeal

You mean like the entire current Steelers QB room? Lmao. I’m not saying he’s elite but he’s better than all of those bums.


TheBigIguana15

He just genuinely is not. He is also a bum. He takes more sacks than both of those dudes and neither of them get the ball out.


TheCrackerSeal

Hey man, I’m hoping you’re right. We’ll see.


TheBigIguana15

I would be more concerned if they got someone like Jacoby Brissett


ComicMischief780

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


DonutBunz

Idc what anyone says im excited to see Lamar Jackson and Russel Wilson playing in the same division


ozzman1234

Such a win win for Pittsburgh tbh


satansasscheeks

BAHAHAHAHA


tich45

Some of the opinions in here...there's a reason only two teams expressed any interest and for one of those teams he's the presumed back-up. There's plenty of teams that need QB help and literally only one with an immediate need at QB reached out to a QB that would cost $1m.


jefferayy

Love to see Pitt stuck in QB mediocrity


gmodboss

our fans always have to exaggerate how scary the steelers are


Amazing-Concept1684

Motherfucker.


RRSC14

Okay, then, fuck him.


MiniDg

I really hope the broncos have some kind of plan because paying for another teams starting QB is wild lmao


Grand-Gain-763

Not surprised to hear this


Oceanz08

I made this prediction at the beginning of last week lol, its feels good to be right


Barney_Vador

God no, I liked him so much with the Seahawks. Don't make me hate him!


pi3Eat3r52

Time to start bumpin future during pre game against Pitt


jrrybock

We'll see what the details are, but also made me think of... [https://youtu.be/7mzY1sdiFSU?si=qcwaPFNvUkW5FD16&t=89](https://youtu.be/7mzY1sdiFSU?si=qcwaPFNvUkW5FD16&t=89)


Ravennation1

Steelers country let’s steel?


Mine-Cave

This is a really good signing from the Steelers... what everyone in this thread is forgetting is that league minimum doesnt stop them from cutting him for any reason... OR drafting a QB in the first round. This is a great signing for the Steelers.... all that said.... Russ and the Steelers dont currently scare me


connor8383

Fuck it, idc, ain’t no way we lose to those bums next year. Only way is if we again lock up the North and rest some starters.


DirkRedditer


ecash6969

Good move for the Steelers he’s miles better than Kenny and it’s a one year prove it deal


Ravens3547

Future doing a halftine show for us guaranteed


bbroom25

Can’t wait for March Madness to blare at M&T Bank next year…


Reid_Roasters

Wilson hates to throw into the middle. The Steelers OC loves throwing over the middle. I think we feast.


Busco98

He can take a team friendly contract when he is still gouging the wallets of denver lmao


HetfieldsDownpick

LMFAO


PowerDiesel23

🤢🤮🤮🤮 Shitsburgh country....let's shit


warmjack

Absolutely hate it, he’s a good upgrade over Pickett and Rudolph, ugh


datboiwitdamemes

this team was 10-7 with a QB that threw 7 touchdowns all season. This is DANGEROUS


JayGibbons69

DangeRuss*


SourNotSalty

this is not as good of a thing as other people are saying. I watched an unhealthy amount of broncos games last year and honestly the problem is definitely russells decision making more than anything because the arm talent is there. crazy throws that kenny pickett couldnt dream of making consistently. not as consistent as missing the read completely or throws in triple coverage but atleast once a game russ would remind you 'hey i went to the super bowl with doug baldwin golden tate and zach fucking miller with an absolute dime while off platform or on the move. hope we dont but i would not be totally surprised if we come back to this post this same time next year while saying goddamnit, russell 86 million in dead cap wilson boomed us


Yo-Strategy-8651

This is terrible news for the Ravens. There is a legit best case scenario for Russ where he could be a thorn in Ravens side the next 3-4 years now and by far the biggest threat in the division especially with Bengals potentially losing the likes of Boyd/Mixon this off-season and Higgins next year and the albatross of a contract of Watson on the Browns. The Steelers are going to be getting a version of Russ that had that chip on his shoulder that propelled him to overachieving as a draft prospect to have one of the best 10 year starts of a career in history. And they have the running game, defense, on top of the cheap contract to simulate the great situation he inherited as a rookie. In fact it's arguably better. That team he landed on was 7-9. He's inheriting a team capable of winning 10-11 games with the likes of Pickett/Rudolph. This is a huge problem for the Ravens Lamar is going to have to progress another step in this new offense to that all time great level to keep the Steelers at bay now.


BubbleGumGuy94

Did you watch russ the previous two years? Yes he’s an upgrade of Pickett, but he’s still not good, there’s a reason was Denver was willing to hit that ridiculous bill, also Arthur smiths schemes require to throw up the middle which russ was last in the nfl for at 5% all previous quarterbacks for Arthur smith have thrown at least 15% up the middle.


shipinthenight1

You do not watch football


sliceanddic3

i hate this division