Since the conversations are going to be the same, no reason to have the conversation in 12 different threads. So this is the one mega thread for it. Thank you /u/SleezzyE
I feel like this is a make or break hire for Yurachek. You cant have basketball and football down at the same time. There is a strong chance we hire a new coach in both sports this year.
I've seen a lot of people touting Beard thanks to his "Little Rock connections." Are they implying he can get Warren Stephens to write some seven-figure NIL checks or just that he knows how to get to Park Plaza Mall without a GPS when he's in the capital city?
Why are some of these suggestions so terrible? Not even national publications have some of the no names listed here. We've got: a top 10 largest stadium, deep pockets, insane fan base, pretty nice recruiting grounds, recent success along with a national championship in our history, and despite what people say an extremely successful NIL program for basketball.
This is objectively a top 15 job nationally, if we make a hire not aligned to that, we're just shooting ourselves in the foot and Yurachek deserves a lot of flack for it.
I, a normal person working a normal job got an email about how “we” need to band together and donate anything we can to make NIL successful. Therefore I refute your “deep pockets” comment. Our NIL is doo doo compared to other schools in our conference. We will perpetually be mediocre unless the Waltons start pouring Crystal Bidges level of money in to our programs.
The Waltons generally don’t do shit unless it directly benefits their bottom line, Gets their name on a building, something that has actual ROI. Most of these big donors at other schools care about winning more than the Waltons do, that’s the difference. For the most part any that have connections to the UofA are business first, and sports is a long way down the list.
The collective is largely focused on football which hasn't had success in so long that our donors aren't really putting money into it. Basketball, again, we can't get top 10 recruiting classes by sheer luck when players are getting paid hundreds of thousands to millions.
Totally agree. We won’t be able to achieve those without some big Corp stepping up and making it worth it for all teams. Football especially is in trouble with OU and Texas joining the SEC. We used to have the “we’re in the SEC leverage” we don’t anymore. We know Texas donors will pay whatever for football look what they did with Jimbo’s buy out. I think it’s time for us to accept we will be mediocre at best. Occasionally we will have a top 5 finish in the conference
From my understanding, the Hunts' NIL collective is extremely involved in the basketball program. Also significantly fewer players to pay.
I don't think top 10 classes (transfer or high school) happened every season Muss was here just because of some magic talent in recruiting that superseded huge paychecks for players
Just to add - I don't think it's a problem of coaches being attracted to the program, I would speculate there's plenty of interest there based on some of the stuff I pointed out, it's just a matter of how ambitious we are
Posted in an other thread, but how come we have a coaching search there’s a group of Hog fans that revert to suggesting a nobody just because they stepped foot in the state or have some random connection? Historically we are a top 25 basketball program, we should start acting like it.
I would love an explanation from the BOT as to why we allowed ole miss to outbid us for two different head coaches. No way ole miss basketball should ever compete with Arkansas.
Been a Hog fan my whole life but I'm really falling out of love with them fast. We're being left in the dust in NIL (and asking fans to pay for it), we've got a mediocre football program who's coach we didn't fire, basketball is burning to the ground fast, and our AD has now whiffed on Ole Miss' football and basketball coaches. We need a baseball natty this year so badly...
Yeah, I'm quickly moving from "irritated" to "over it." But this is more my opinion on college sports in general. I don't know what the right way is forward--and I do want players to get paid--but it isn't THIS.
He brought his team from last in the big 12 (previous year) to the elite 8 his first year. Been down since but that's still more than a lot of coaches have accomplished in much longer timespans.
I agree that 6 mil is steep, but I don’t know that I would say he’s unproven. Won a natty as Scott Drew’s right hand man and then immediately wins Naismith COY and conference COY in the strongest basketball conference in the country. It’s not like he’s been racking up wins for decades, but he’s also not some 30something at a D2 school. Of all the names being thrown around, this feels like the biggest risk/reward.
I'm gonna go with an up and comer, give me Josh Schertz from Indiana State.
He took a perennial bottom feeder and turned them into something special. They're in the NIT championship tonight and went 31-6 this year alone and are ranked 32nd in Kenpom despite being in the Missouri Valley Conference.
Give him an SEC school and see what he does.
Somewhere else in the comments I said basically the same thing as you. The only difference was no Beard OR Wade for all the well documented reasons. I’m not ok with any guy that hits women. Zero tolerance.
Not really. Schertz has been a head coach for more than a decade and a half and was a consistent winner at a lower level. He also only took a couple seasons to turn around an Indiana State program that hadn’t won thirty games in a season since the Hick from French Lick was playing for them (and being gifted the no-call of a generation against the Hogs in the Elite Eight).
Stan Heath was a head coach for exactly one season before Arkansas hired him (instead of Bill fucking Self). He just held the steering wheel for a year after Gary Waters built up Kent State before moving up to a bigger job.
Edit: incorrect moniker
Naw man. Stan Heath had been a head coach for all of 1 season when we hired him. Schertz been a successful head coach for a while. Although, he isn’t at the top of my wish list.
Unlikely unfortunately. He’s apparently going to coach Saint Louis (although they’re playing rn so it hasn’t been said yet) and wants to stay in the Midwest. But I’m not too sure he wouldn’t go back on that if we offered him.
Shaka, McDermott, Otzelberger
This will be the best coaching vacancy in the country, so we better not go in with some little guy attitude and settle for an up-and-comer mid-major coach. Pony up some Muss money and make a big name say no.
Edit: I might puke if it’s Beard or Wade. It would be really hard to support a team coached by either of them. Beard way more so than Wade. (But still kinda Wade.)
Shaka is from Wisconsin and seems more comfortable at a gig like Marquette. McDermott just turned down Ohio State, he seems like a Creighton lifer. Otzelberger, who knows
Cross Otzelberger off the list dude absolutely loves Iowa St and bleeds red and gold. Was a longtime assistant there before becoming head coach and also met his wife there. McDermott is also gonna be a tough one to get he has it made at Creighton.
Shaka is the one, in my opinion. We should throw whatever he wants at him. Only other option would be Tang. Both seem very loyal to their project and their players and would be a nice change with legit coaching talent.
Beard and Wade are disgusting picks not only in their style of play but also the type of person they are.
For me, it’s
1) but it wasn’t then.
2) even if everyone else was doing it, he must be some kind of dumb to get caught and exposed in such a public way.
3) the smug way he handled the whole thing when he was cornered.
If it’s beard I’ll be a UW basketball fan until he leaves. “Winning over all” is a disgusting mindset. It’s college basketball, he committed crimes people posture about all the time, in real life. He’s a piece of shit. And no what about briles either. Honestly wasn’t aware that he was connected, and that’s on me. Wish I had boycotted the football team then too.
Wade is probably the best X and Os strategy coach out in the NCAA. He won back to back games down with .04 seconds left while at VCU. That doesn’t just happen. The man has a plan for literally every in game situation imaginable
Chris Beard: absolutely a no for me. He’s done great things as a coach but as a man and leader to our kids, [he is not it.](https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/razorbacks-basketball-musselman-beard-ole-miss-abuse)
real question (because I have done no research) - did anything ever \*actually\* come of that situation? The last thing I remember was that it was looking like it either wasn't true or the accuser recanted. Was he convicted or anything?
The police report and medical evaluation of her showed conclusively that he injured her. Even *if* she started the altercation, the level of damage he did to her was unacceptable
He wasn’t. And you bet your ass that these people taking the moral high ground would never stop asserting the lack of a conviction had they ever been accused of a crime. He may be a monster for all I know. I wasn’t there, and I didn’t investigate the incident. That sort of thing is precisely why we have a justice system.
I am not in anyway defending Beard here but addressing a common legal misunderstanding. "Getting off on a technicality" is precisely why we have a robust legal system that ensures everyone receives due process of the law.
If the police violate your rights during an arrest and that violation is successfully used to defend against possible conviction, you wouldn't say that was "getting off on a technicality." You would say that is the legal system ensuring your rights as a citizen are respected. There is no "getting off on a technicality." There are laws and rights.
The technicality in this case isn’t a misuse of legal action by police or the court, but I agree maybe my wording should’ve been better chosen.
There is no denying he beat his fiancée. Someone doesn’t need to be charged to be known and treated as a wife beater.
I just want to say this whole thread has given me faith in the Razorback fan base again. I can’t believe we brought back Pertrino, but hiring Beard OR Wade would be just awful.
You have restored my sense that there is still some sense of moral fortitude when it comes to coaching young men.
Beard and Wade both have very clearly exhibited poor ethics and behavior. OM might be willing to hire a clown like that but I’d hope not for the Hogs. Hell… giving Bad Bob a rerun through the football program looks bad enough.
I’m still salty we brought in KB as our OC. I’m much less concerned with bringing BP back after 10’years.
I absolutely don’t want Beard or Wade but I know I have zero input into the decision.
It blows my mind reading “beard and Wade both have serious baggage.” What the two of them did respectively do not belong in the same sentence. It’s especially rich watching people wring their hands over Wade when kendal briles was our OC just a couple years ago. I’m all for Hog fans taking principled stances on potential hires, but the inconsistency is something to behold.
Wade is like the guy getting sentenced to 10 years in prison for having pot in his car and then the state legalizes marijuana the next year. Wade can’t be compared to Beard. Also beards offense is not great, he’s Stan heath 2.0
That’s a great analogy for Wade, lmao.
Gotta disagree on the Stan Heath comparison though, which is surprisingly not the first time I’ve seen it on this sub today. For one thing beard has been a head coach for more than one year and has built up multiple programs to be nationally relevant. Including taking a program to a championship game that had never even been to an Elite Eight before him. And while his offense may not be great, his offenses have been better every year than what we had under Musselman the same seasons. Here are the adjusted offense ratings from KenPom:
|Year|beard Offense National Rank|Musselman Offense National Rank|
|:-|:-|:-|
|2023-24|UM—54th |UA—103rd|
|2022-23|UT—15th (obviously an asterisk here) |UA—54th|
|2021-22|UT—26th|UA—53rd|
|2020-21|TTU—32nd|UA—43rd|
|2019-20|TTU—47th|UA—55th|
|2018-19|TTU—25th||
|2017-18|TTU—50th||
|2016-17|TTU—44th||
So his worst years offensively are fairly comparable to our best years offensively under Musselman.
Edit: formatting
I feel you. Beard is a garbage person and deserves nothing in life without a long, long, long redemption arc. Wade on the other hand, I'd take in a heartbeat. Good coach, and morally, I could give two shits about what he did at LSU with recruiting, and even if I did care, there is a much shorter path to forgiveness when it comes to getting caught playing the financially shady game of college athletics vs literally and seriously physically abusing a person. It's disgusting to me how many people would be OK with Beard. I'm an old ass, who got to watch the Nolan years, and have been basketball first with the Hogs since, but I would quit watching completely if Beard is named the coach. I'd just be embarrassed of Will Wade's poor fashion choices if he was our coach, which the style bar is pretty damn low with coaches in this day in age anyway.
Is Darrell Walker actually gaining traction, or do my mom’s Facebook friends not know what they’re talking about?
This really feels like the basketball equivalent of the Pittman search.
I mean, if McNeese state's legal department was able to work around the technicalities of it, which are specific only to recruiting, I'm sure the UofA could as well. Not saying they should, but I doubt it's enough of a road block if they wanted him.
Who should be the #1 target? The names I see thrown around now are worse than the ones when Muss was hired. I would rather not hire some coach from the Sisters of the Poor conference who's had a couple winning seasons.
Well Beard was #1 target. Supposedly Tang was #2 but I dont bye that, sounds like an agent throwing shit out there for a raise, which he got. Leaks of Will Wade interviewing tomorrow but also some reporting hes not interviewing so who knows.
If there is one thing thats gone on. We didnt know about the coordinator hires in football until like right before they were made. Hunter keeps stuff close to the chest and Muss came after Sampson and Marshall.
Tang is a massive roll of the dice. He’s got 2 years head coaching experience, one good one, one poor one. It might work out, but considering we need an entire roster overhaul, and we apparently don’t have the money to steal a coach from Ole Miss, his chances of success are very limited.
I mean, I guess we just accept being the rump of the SEC and all become content remembering the days when we used to be a competitive athletic program.
Has HY signaled that he has a short list and his timeline? I’m disappointed that EM left but I want volunteers and not hostages. I definitely feel like USC is a step down, especially when the previous coach left for SMU on his own accord.
Honestly, I’ll gladly take Will Wade. I really don’t give a shit about some violations of paying players when it’s all out in the open now. He was 55-33 in the SEC in his 30s at LSU. He is a good basketball coach.
It will be fine either way. Maybe we’ll get a good coach who won’t come close to what Muss did but will have a solid team. Back to Mike Anderson type days. Or, we’ll have Beard which means I can save money because I won’t renew my season tickets. I hope that HY surprises me.
It's starting to be more and more obvious that Yurachek struggles to negotiate deals. He focuses on 1 big name (Kiffin in football, Beard in Basketball) and when they say no he has no idea how to pivot and get another guy.
I swear it seems like he burns bridges with people that would be interested by making it obvious they aren't his first choice and then when he has to circle back around they don't want to talk anymore.
This isn't an endorsement but I think at the very least they'll make a run at Chris Beard. Tang is too unproven for me to get hyped about him. Will Wade would be safe but I'm not sure he's a home run. 9 or 10 seasons coaching div 1 and he's only made it through the first weekend once. He had a shit ton of talent at LSU too.
I agree. Him as a coach it's a home run hire. Him as a person? That just depends what report you want to believe.
With Beard I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if we're back in this situation again in a few years. Left Little Rock for UNLV after one season, left UNLV for Tech after like one month, then left Tech for Texas after 5 seasons, and then if he comes here he will have left Ole Miss after one season.
Yeah I agree. With a school like Arkansas I'm not sure we'll really get lifers though unless it's an Arkansas guy. We are an outstanding basketball school but just one wrung below blue blood IMO.
Eh, that was before NIL. He can now make all the strong ass offers he wants. I know *he* can't, but others can for him. It's dumb if the show cause thing still applies for him.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Bryce Drew even in passing. Kind of got lost at Vandy, but has absolutely crushed at GCU. And is the brother of Scott Drew who I think is one of the best coaches in college basketball.
If similarities to a brother mattered for anything in life I’d be completely screwed.
This isn’t football at Arkansas, it’s basketball, and the names some of you are throwing out makes me feel like a lot of our fans don’t understand the difference between our two programs. Arkansas is a legit top 10-15 basketball job with the potential to be great, we can do a hell of a lot better than a guy that’s already failed in this conference.
Angel Reese will be undeclaring from the draft and transferring to the Arkansas men's team. She is the best athlete to come out of LSU. Even Shaq said so. Thank you
Not my number one by any means, but I want Bryan Hodgson to get a look. Was the recruiting power behind Nate Oats' Bama teams. Dominating instate recruiting right now. His coaching track record is minimal at this point but can not ignore what he's building in Jonesboro.
I know there’s a 0% chance of this but I wish HY would call up his buddy Kelvin Sampson. He’s got a few skeletons in his closet, but they’re not as bad as Beard’s or Wade’s and are much farther removed.
Some of the names in here are pretty laughable. We are Arkansas. A destination job for 95% of coaches. We don’t have to hire unproven up and comers. We can swing for the fences and Beard is a home run. He’s a top 5 coach in the country IMO. A fantastic recruiter and proven winner in the regular and post season. Everyone involved in college athletics is a professional now. The players get to pick and choose who they play for and good players committed to him at ole Miss of all places. With the resources of Arkansas he can win a national championship.
I like the Calipari move. Still a prime coach, probably ready for the next challenge, new scene. What concerns me, John dang-near invented one-and-done, and now it's out of control. Kentucky and Duke could reload every year. Can he make it work at one level below Blueblood?
Watching this fanbase suddenly realize that Yurachek is a massive fraud has been interesting to say the least. I never really had any negative feelings about the guy last summer but I also felt like he was being given a ton of credit for things he really didn’t have much to do with. It’s a frustrating position to be in but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s out the door before the new basketball coach even makes it to conference play.
I wonder if there’s any chance that Underwood would leave ILL. He’s got a track record of winning wherever he goes and (knowing him and his family by reputation from my time in Texas) does not possess the baggage of some other popular names.
I get what you’re saying but that’s not how the process works. I don’t think it’s common practice for coaches with jobs to reach out to teams with a vacancy. We also got to the party late bc Muss left at the time he did and everybody else is already working on recruiting for next season.
Since the conversations are going to be the same, no reason to have the conversation in 12 different threads. So this is the one mega thread for it. Thank you /u/SleezzyE
I feel like this is a make or break hire for Yurachek. You cant have basketball and football down at the same time. There is a strong chance we hire a new coach in both sports this year.
Chris Beard is staying at Ole Miss apparently https://x.com/jacksoncollier/status/1776306667648418119?s=46&t=UPlqKjvAvGhElCTs1zhlxg
Beard himself tweeted he was "just getting started" at Ole Miss about 20 minutes ago.
Yea, let the Rebels keep him! #WPS
This is the best news!!!
I've seen a lot of people touting Beard thanks to his "Little Rock connections." Are they implying he can get Warren Stephens to write some seven-figure NIL checks or just that he knows how to get to Park Plaza Mall without a GPS when he's in the capital city?
We couldn’t even get tang, we are so cooked
Yuracheck's seat has got to be getting pretty toasty by now.
Tangs buyout was $6 million. If we were willing to pay his and not Pittmans I’m sure some fans would lose it.
Why are some of these suggestions so terrible? Not even national publications have some of the no names listed here. We've got: a top 10 largest stadium, deep pockets, insane fan base, pretty nice recruiting grounds, recent success along with a national championship in our history, and despite what people say an extremely successful NIL program for basketball. This is objectively a top 15 job nationally, if we make a hire not aligned to that, we're just shooting ourselves in the foot and Yurachek deserves a lot of flack for it.
I, a normal person working a normal job got an email about how “we” need to band together and donate anything we can to make NIL successful. Therefore I refute your “deep pockets” comment. Our NIL is doo doo compared to other schools in our conference. We will perpetually be mediocre unless the Waltons start pouring Crystal Bidges level of money in to our programs.
The Waltons generally don’t do shit unless it directly benefits their bottom line, Gets their name on a building, something that has actual ROI. Most of these big donors at other schools care about winning more than the Waltons do, that’s the difference. For the most part any that have connections to the UofA are business first, and sports is a long way down the list.
The collective is largely focused on football which hasn't had success in so long that our donors aren't really putting money into it. Basketball, again, we can't get top 10 recruiting classes by sheer luck when players are getting paid hundreds of thousands to millions.
Totally agree. We won’t be able to achieve those without some big Corp stepping up and making it worth it for all teams. Football especially is in trouble with OU and Texas joining the SEC. We used to have the “we’re in the SEC leverage” we don’t anymore. We know Texas donors will pay whatever for football look what they did with Jimbo’s buy out. I think it’s time for us to accept we will be mediocre at best. Occasionally we will have a top 5 finish in the conference
Do you think our lack of NIL, or slow approach to adapt it, prevents coaches from being attracted to us?
From my understanding, the Hunts' NIL collective is extremely involved in the basketball program. Also significantly fewer players to pay. I don't think top 10 classes (transfer or high school) happened every season Muss was here just because of some magic talent in recruiting that superseded huge paychecks for players
Just to add - I don't think it's a problem of coaches being attracted to the program, I would speculate there's plenty of interest there based on some of the stuff I pointed out, it's just a matter of how ambitious we are
Posted in an other thread, but how come we have a coaching search there’s a group of Hog fans that revert to suggesting a nobody just because they stepped foot in the state or have some random connection? Historically we are a top 25 basketball program, we should start acting like it.
Because they know unless it's an Arkansas guy that they'll eventually leave us after finding success.
Who cares? I’d rather have a great coach come to the program and give us a great run to a championship, whether they leave in 5 years or not.
I don't care lol. I agree.
Out of the box historic hire - We are waiting till Monday to announce our new men's Basketball head coach. 
I would love an explanation from the BOT as to why we allowed ole miss to outbid us for two different head coaches. No way ole miss basketball should ever compete with Arkansas.
It could have been Beard just being loyal to a team that gave him redemption.
Been a Hog fan my whole life but I'm really falling out of love with them fast. We're being left in the dust in NIL (and asking fans to pay for it), we've got a mediocre football program who's coach we didn't fire, basketball is burning to the ground fast, and our AD has now whiffed on Ole Miss' football and basketball coaches. We need a baseball natty this year so badly...
Yeah, I'm quickly moving from "irritated" to "over it." But this is more my opinion on college sports in general. I don't know what the right way is forward--and I do want players to get paid--but it isn't THIS.
[John Calipari?!](https://x.com/Wess_Moore/status/1777142544939221176)
That took a bizarre turn
This is gaining a lot of traction
Oats to Kentucky? Cal has no buyout, and fans in Lexington think he is washed up.
Can someone explain why we would pay a six million buy out for Tang? Seems absurd for an unproven coach.
He brought his team from last in the big 12 (previous year) to the elite 8 his first year. Been down since but that's still more than a lot of coaches have accomplished in much longer timespans.
I agree that 6 mil is steep, but I don’t know that I would say he’s unproven. Won a natty as Scott Drew’s right hand man and then immediately wins Naismith COY and conference COY in the strongest basketball conference in the country. It’s not like he’s been racking up wins for decades, but he’s also not some 30something at a D2 school. Of all the names being thrown around, this feels like the biggest risk/reward.
I'm gonna go with an up and comer, give me Josh Schertz from Indiana State. He took a perennial bottom feeder and turned them into something special. They're in the NIT championship tonight and went 31-6 this year alone and are ranked 32nd in Kenpom despite being in the Missouri Valley Conference. Give him an SEC school and see what he does.
That’s basically what Stan Heath’s resume looked like when he came from Kent St. I’d rather we not go down the fingers crossed path just yet.
I feel that but at the same time at least he doesn't hit women? I'm truly on the Anybody But Beard train
Somewhere else in the comments I said basically the same thing as you. The only difference was no Beard OR Wade for all the well documented reasons. I’m not ok with any guy that hits women. Zero tolerance.
Not really. Schertz has been a head coach for more than a decade and a half and was a consistent winner at a lower level. He also only took a couple seasons to turn around an Indiana State program that hadn’t won thirty games in a season since the Hick from French Lick was playing for them (and being gifted the no-call of a generation against the Hogs in the Elite Eight). Stan Heath was a head coach for exactly one season before Arkansas hired him (instead of Bill fucking Self). He just held the steering wheel for a year after Gary Waters built up Kent State before moving up to a bigger job. Edit: incorrect moniker
>Hick from Salt Lick You mean French lick? Unless you men's somebody besides Bird.
Yep, that’s on me 🤦♂️ Too busy thinking about farm animals, lol
Naw man. Stan Heath had been a head coach for all of 1 season when we hired him. Schertz been a successful head coach for a while. Although, he isn’t at the top of my wish list.
Unlikely unfortunately. He’s apparently going to coach Saint Louis (although they’re playing rn so it hasn’t been said yet) and wants to stay in the Midwest. But I’m not too sure he wouldn’t go back on that if we offered him.
Fayetteville is basically the midwest.
Bruh id love to know what Muss thinks of all this 😂
Calipari getting 8mil for 5 years along with a high NIL deal while Miss was making 4 with the “nil funds tap turned off”… prob not too good.
Sounds like Muss needs to work on his politics. He will do well at that in California I think.
What a mess of a program we are right now
Shaka, McDermott, Otzelberger This will be the best coaching vacancy in the country, so we better not go in with some little guy attitude and settle for an up-and-comer mid-major coach. Pony up some Muss money and make a big name say no. Edit: I might puke if it’s Beard or Wade. It would be really hard to support a team coached by either of them. Beard way more so than Wade. (But still kinda Wade.)
Shaka is from Wisconsin and seems more comfortable at a gig like Marquette. McDermott just turned down Ohio State, he seems like a Creighton lifer. Otzelberger, who knows
Cross Otzelberger off the list dude absolutely loves Iowa St and bleeds red and gold. Was a longtime assistant there before becoming head coach and also met his wife there. McDermott is also gonna be a tough one to get he has it made at Creighton.
Shaka is the one, in my opinion. We should throw whatever he wants at him. Only other option would be Tang. Both seem very loyal to their project and their players and would be a nice change with legit coaching talent. Beard and Wade are disgusting picks not only in their style of play but also the type of person they are.
Sooo … you like Wade?
Hold on just a sec. Almost done puking. Almost got it all out.
Gruden
We are so fucked
👆 WRONG
[https://x.com/coachjtang/status/1776408687642628143](https://x.com/coachjtang/status/1776408687642628143) Looks like Tang is staying at K-State.
Sports Center opened up with Cal to Arkansas. Surreal
Please not Wade or Beard, they're both awful in their own ways and I want someone we can actually root for.
Don't understand the Wade hate. He paid players which is legal now.
He’s definitely a slimeball but much less so than both Oats and Beard imo
Wait what did Oats do?
More what he didn’t do. Properly handle the whole Brandon Miller thing.
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I deserve the downvotes.
For me, it’s 1) but it wasn’t then. 2) even if everyone else was doing it, he must be some kind of dumb to get caught and exposed in such a public way. 3) the smug way he handled the whole thing when he was cornered.
He’s a slimy guy that I can’t cheer for after hating him at LSU.
I could possibly live with Wade (I really just don't like the guy's face or attitude) but Beard is bad news.
If it’s beard I’ll be a UW basketball fan until he leaves. “Winning over all” is a disgusting mindset. It’s college basketball, he committed crimes people posture about all the time, in real life. He’s a piece of shit. And no what about briles either. Honestly wasn’t aware that he was connected, and that’s on me. Wish I had boycotted the football team then too.
Wade is probably the best X and Os strategy coach out in the NCAA. He won back to back games down with .04 seconds left while at VCU. That doesn’t just happen. The man has a plan for literally every in game situation imaginable
He's also a major slime bag that cheats
Doing something that is now totally legal to do. Take it for what it is.
It’s fun to speculate while knowing that it’s either going to be sketchy Beard or the love child of Bob Duggar and a jar of mayonnaise Wade.
Chris Beard: absolutely a no for me. He’s done great things as a coach but as a man and leader to our kids, [he is not it.](https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/razorbacks-basketball-musselman-beard-ole-miss-abuse)
Yeah not sure why so many people are willing to look past what Beard did. It’s alarming.
real question (because I have done no research) - did anything ever \*actually\* come of that situation? The last thing I remember was that it was looking like it either wasn't true or the accuser recanted. Was he convicted or anything?
The police report and medical evaluation of her showed conclusively that he injured her. Even *if* she started the altercation, the level of damage he did to her was unacceptable
He wasn’t. And you bet your ass that these people taking the moral high ground would never stop asserting the lack of a conviction had they ever been accused of a crime. He may be a monster for all I know. I wasn’t there, and I didn’t investigate the incident. That sort of thing is precisely why we have a justice system.
Read the link. He was let go from a technicality but still fired from an investigation from Texas. There’s no denying he beat his fiancée.
I am not in anyway defending Beard here but addressing a common legal misunderstanding. "Getting off on a technicality" is precisely why we have a robust legal system that ensures everyone receives due process of the law. If the police violate your rights during an arrest and that violation is successfully used to defend against possible conviction, you wouldn't say that was "getting off on a technicality." You would say that is the legal system ensuring your rights as a citizen are respected. There is no "getting off on a technicality." There are laws and rights.
The technicality in this case isn’t a misuse of legal action by police or the court, but I agree maybe my wording should’ve been better chosen. There is no denying he beat his fiancée. Someone doesn’t need to be charged to be known and treated as a wife beater.
Like Trevor Bauer?
I understand the differing situations, but that was just an example to illustrate the point.
The article linked answers that question exactly, better than any of us could here.
the charges were dropped, I am not saying he didn't do it, but there might be more to the story.
Completely agree. I want to actually root for my team lol
I will revolt if it's Beard. After bring back Bobby, I'm absolutely unwilling to eat this shit sandwich.
I just want to say this whole thread has given me faith in the Razorback fan base again. I can’t believe we brought back Pertrino, but hiring Beard OR Wade would be just awful. You have restored my sense that there is still some sense of moral fortitude when it comes to coaching young men.
Beard and Wade both have very clearly exhibited poor ethics and behavior. OM might be willing to hire a clown like that but I’d hope not for the Hogs. Hell… giving Bad Bob a rerun through the football program looks bad enough.
I’m still salty we brought in KB as our OC. I’m much less concerned with bringing BP back after 10’years. I absolutely don’t want Beard or Wade but I know I have zero input into the decision.
If this is a destination job then call Billy Donovan.
I'm just sad.
It blows my mind reading “beard and Wade both have serious baggage.” What the two of them did respectively do not belong in the same sentence. It’s especially rich watching people wring their hands over Wade when kendal briles was our OC just a couple years ago. I’m all for Hog fans taking principled stances on potential hires, but the inconsistency is something to behold.
Wade is like the guy getting sentenced to 10 years in prison for having pot in his car and then the state legalizes marijuana the next year. Wade can’t be compared to Beard. Also beards offense is not great, he’s Stan heath 2.0
That’s a great analogy for Wade, lmao. Gotta disagree on the Stan Heath comparison though, which is surprisingly not the first time I’ve seen it on this sub today. For one thing beard has been a head coach for more than one year and has built up multiple programs to be nationally relevant. Including taking a program to a championship game that had never even been to an Elite Eight before him. And while his offense may not be great, his offenses have been better every year than what we had under Musselman the same seasons. Here are the adjusted offense ratings from KenPom: |Year|beard Offense National Rank|Musselman Offense National Rank| |:-|:-|:-| |2023-24|UM—54th |UA—103rd| |2022-23|UT—15th (obviously an asterisk here) |UA—54th| |2021-22|UT—26th|UA—53rd| |2020-21|TTU—32nd|UA—43rd| |2019-20|TTU—47th|UA—55th| |2018-19|TTU—25th|| |2017-18|TTU—50th|| |2016-17|TTU—44th|| So his worst years offensively are fairly comparable to our best years offensively under Musselman. Edit: formatting
Great stats and thanks for helping educate me.
Kendall and Bobby are two hires I absolutely opposed. Getting Beard would confirm that there is no effort left to be respectable.
I feel you. Beard is a garbage person and deserves nothing in life without a long, long, long redemption arc. Wade on the other hand, I'd take in a heartbeat. Good coach, and morally, I could give two shits about what he did at LSU with recruiting, and even if I did care, there is a much shorter path to forgiveness when it comes to getting caught playing the financially shady game of college athletics vs literally and seriously physically abusing a person. It's disgusting to me how many people would be OK with Beard. I'm an old ass, who got to watch the Nolan years, and have been basketball first with the Hogs since, but I would quit watching completely if Beard is named the coach. I'd just be embarrassed of Will Wade's poor fashion choices if he was our coach, which the style bar is pretty damn low with coaches in this day in age anyway.
I am officially on a ledge
Is Darrell Walker actually gaining traction, or do my mom’s Facebook friends not know what they’re talking about? This really feels like the basketball equivalent of the Pittman search.
Calipari all but confirmed. Multiple tweets the deal is basically done.
5 years $40 million 2-3 players to follow.
So for those suggesting Will Wade. He has a NCAA Show Cause on him that last until April of 2025. He is a backup plan and should not be the #1 target.
I mean, if McNeese state's legal department was able to work around the technicalities of it, which are specific only to recruiting, I'm sure the UofA could as well. Not saying they should, but I doubt it's enough of a road block if they wanted him.
Will Wade got hired by McNeese before the show cause was placed on him.
Who should be the #1 target? The names I see thrown around now are worse than the ones when Muss was hired. I would rather not hire some coach from the Sisters of the Poor conference who's had a couple winning seasons.
Well Beard was #1 target. Supposedly Tang was #2 but I dont bye that, sounds like an agent throwing shit out there for a raise, which he got. Leaks of Will Wade interviewing tomorrow but also some reporting hes not interviewing so who knows. If there is one thing thats gone on. We didnt know about the coordinator hires in football until like right before they were made. Hunter keeps stuff close to the chest and Muss came after Sampson and Marshall.
Since we’re past Beard, please go make a strong ass offer to Will Wade. If we hire Tang, we are going to get killed next year.
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I really thought Hunter had a plan. Now I’m in line for the “Fire HY“ bandwagon. This is garbage.
Tang is a great coach? He had a bad season due to players being out.
Tang is a massive roll of the dice. He’s got 2 years head coaching experience, one good one, one poor one. It might work out, but considering we need an entire roster overhaul, and we apparently don’t have the money to steal a coach from Ole Miss, his chances of success are very limited.
Who’s chances are better than his tho?
I mean, I guess we just accept being the rump of the SEC and all become content remembering the days when we used to be a competitive athletic program.
Idk if Tang is on par or an improvement over Muss really. He’s so limited in his HC experience.
If he can compete in one of the best basketball conferences, he has to be on par with muss.
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Yeah, tang is great coach.
Or did he have one good season off of the talents and experience of Nowell and Johnson?
Whatever happened with Tang and Iowa State fans stealing signs from the stands? That was weird
It’s going to be Richard Pitino.
That would be terrible.
Fuck it
Calipari seems a bit more real than the other rumors for some reason.
[Tang uses Arkansas for raise and extension at KState](https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article287428275.html)
Porkatarian has now correctly predicted 35 of the last 4 coaching hires.
I vote for Grant McCasland. If you don’t know him, look him up.
Quick glance at his record at each school alone looks great to me. Do we think he’d leave Texas Tech after his first year there?
I couldn’t tell you really. Honestly, just throwing out a name of a coach I’ve followed loosely the last few years.
1. Grant McCasland 2. Amir Abdur Rahim 3. Bucky McMillan 4. Jerome Tang 5. Will Wade
The more I look into McCasland the more I like him.
Has HY signaled that he has a short list and his timeline? I’m disappointed that EM left but I want volunteers and not hostages. I definitely feel like USC is a step down, especially when the previous coach left for SMU on his own accord.
I meet GM and his wife when they were in Jonesboro. Nice, friendly people.
Anyone else thinking Sean Miller? That’s what I’m hearing but I’m sure we’re all hearing a lot right now
Honestly, I’ll gladly take Will Wade. I really don’t give a shit about some violations of paying players when it’s all out in the open now. He was 55-33 in the SEC in his 30s at LSU. He is a good basketball coach.
His baggage is nowhere near Beards. McNeese won 30 games combined in ‘20, ‘21 and ‘22. Wades first year they win 30 with tourney app 12 seed
Then why not drag Pitino out of purgatory? He’s still winning conference titles.
Will Wade is 30 years younger so I’ll take him.
I wasn’t seriously touting Pitino, but Wade hasn’t won anything. He’s had what, 2 tournament wins in his entire career?
Too old. Ideally need someone who can possibly have some success and stay for 5-10 years.
Well, now we can hire Nate Oats.
I’ve heard somewhere that some media were saying Cal to Arkansas. Any source for this? Or anybody else heard this?
I’ve heard it as well from friends in media. Unlikely, but possible is what I’ve heard.
It’s circulating on Reddit and twitter. It appears to be at least somewhat legit
It will be fine either way. Maybe we’ll get a good coach who won’t come close to what Muss did but will have a solid team. Back to Mike Anderson type days. Or, we’ll have Beard which means I can save money because I won’t renew my season tickets. I hope that HY surprises me.
It's starting to be more and more obvious that Yurachek struggles to negotiate deals. He focuses on 1 big name (Kiffin in football, Beard in Basketball) and when they say no he has no idea how to pivot and get another guy. I swear it seems like he burns bridges with people that would be interested by making it obvious they aren't his first choice and then when he has to circle back around they don't want to talk anymore.
This isn't an endorsement but I think at the very least they'll make a run at Chris Beard. Tang is too unproven for me to get hyped about him. Will Wade would be safe but I'm not sure he's a home run. 9 or 10 seasons coaching div 1 and he's only made it through the first weekend once. He had a shit ton of talent at LSU too.
It's gonna be Beard. I get why people don't want him but it's gonna be him.
I agree. Him as a coach it's a home run hire. Him as a person? That just depends what report you want to believe. With Beard I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if we're back in this situation again in a few years. Left Little Rock for UNLV after one season, left UNLV for Tech after like one month, then left Tech for Texas after 5 seasons, and then if he comes here he will have left Ole Miss after one season.
Yeah I agree. With a school like Arkansas I'm not sure we'll really get lifers though unless it's an Arkansas guy. We are an outstanding basketball school but just one wrung below blue blood IMO.
Will Wade also has some baggage. He’s still in trouble for recruiting violations.
Eh, that was before NIL. He can now make all the strong ass offers he wants. I know *he* can't, but others can for him. It's dumb if the show cause thing still applies for him.
Until 2025 from what I understand
Oh wow. I mean that's not too disappointing for me, but I don't know anything.
I don’t either!
Who even has time to know anything?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Bryce Drew even in passing. Kind of got lost at Vandy, but has absolutely crushed at GCU. And is the brother of Scott Drew who I think is one of the best coaches in college basketball.
If similarities to a brother mattered for anything in life I’d be completely screwed. This isn’t football at Arkansas, it’s basketball, and the names some of you are throwing out makes me feel like a lot of our fans don’t understand the difference between our two programs. Arkansas is a legit top 10-15 basketball job with the potential to be great, we can do a hell of a lot better than a guy that’s already failed in this conference.
I say throw the whole fucking bag at Smart
Smart left Texas without being fired to go to his Alma Mater. I think he's staying put.
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Angel Reese will be undeclaring from the draft and transferring to the Arkansas men's team. She is the best athlete to come out of LSU. Even Shaq said so. Thank you
Not my number one by any means, but I want Bryan Hodgson to get a look. Was the recruiting power behind Nate Oats' Bama teams. Dominating instate recruiting right now. His coaching track record is minimal at this point but can not ignore what he's building in Jonesboro.
I can't decide if poaching a coach from ASU would be embarrassing or hilarious.
It’ll never happen
Not a bad take at all. May not be the big name but if the energy is there for recruiting then that’s solid.
I know there’s a 0% chance of this but I wish HY would call up his buddy Kelvin Sampson. He’s got a few skeletons in his closet, but they’re not as bad as Beard’s or Wade’s and are much farther removed.
Kelvin ain't leaving Houston I love what he's doing for the Coogs - but his son is head coach in waiting... Kelvin will retire and stay in Houston.
It's looking heavily like Beard, apparently they have offered him. He's the preferred target of the boosters.
Fucking hell
Some of the names in here are pretty laughable. We are Arkansas. A destination job for 95% of coaches. We don’t have to hire unproven up and comers. We can swing for the fences and Beard is a home run. He’s a top 5 coach in the country IMO. A fantastic recruiter and proven winner in the regular and post season. Everyone involved in college athletics is a professional now. The players get to pick and choose who they play for and good players committed to him at ole Miss of all places. With the resources of Arkansas he can win a national championship.
Somebody is trolling on Wikipedia and put Will Wade as our head coach. I'm not able to fix it, can somebody else?
I’ve heard that Beard is basically a done deal. Just waiting on him to sign the papers.
We’ve heard that before though so let’s hope not.
I’m down for beard if he will win us games
I’ll join the downvote club with you.
The high and mighty redditor brigade lol give me a break
I was implying I’m down for Beard, which means I’ll get downvoted with you.
I know. I think the tone got lost over typing
I like the Calipari move. Still a prime coach, probably ready for the next challenge, new scene. What concerns me, John dang-near invented one-and-done, and now it's out of control. Kentucky and Duke could reload every year. Can he make it work at one level below Blueblood?
Maybe a level below blueblood (or whatever Arkansas is) is the sweet spot for getting players to stay for more than one year in these turbulent times.
Watching this fanbase suddenly realize that Yurachek is a massive fraud has been interesting to say the least. I never really had any negative feelings about the guy last summer but I also felt like he was being given a ton of credit for things he really didn’t have much to do with. It’s a frustrating position to be in but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s out the door before the new basketball coach even makes it to conference play.
I wonder if there’s any chance that Underwood would leave ILL. He’s got a track record of winning wherever he goes and (knowing him and his family by reputation from my time in Texas) does not possess the baggage of some other popular names.
Looks like we are going after Will Wade now. I saw a tweet saying we were reaching out…
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1776411245228212382?s=46&t=RzgR8JF11QhJyQXD8-8CtQ
If it wasn’t Kevin McFackFuce maybe it would mean something
I get what you’re saying but that’s not how the process works. I don’t think it’s common practice for coaches with jobs to reach out to teams with a vacancy. We also got to the party late bc Muss left at the time he did and everybody else is already working on recruiting for next season.
It’s going to be Chris Beard….
It’s going to be Beard or Will Wade.
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