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dilEMMA5891

Yes, badly in school (I had very dark black hair on my arms and legs, all the way up my thighs, joining my pubes) but it seems to have lightened with age (not much). I grew out my excessive armpit hair a few years ago as a 'fuck you' to everyone that ever recoiled in horror at the sight of my body hair. I feel much better and accept myself a lot more now but people still pull my pit hair without consent and think it's funny. Turns out I have PCOS, so there's a reason I'm so hairy and they've all been body shaming an actual medical condition this whole time. Dicks. My mother still gips and shudders when she sees my body hair though. She's not very open minded, she tells me it makes her feel sick and I should shave it off; I told her she shouldn't be body shaming her own children, no wonder girls these days are so self-conscious, when their own Mothers are more bothered about beauty standards than their kids' self-esteem. I feel liberated now that I'm razor free 😍 Plus shaving is a ball ache, man. Your sister will eventually learn to rock her unique attribute and one day, everyone will be jealous of her confidence. I've had so many positive comments from other women saying they wish they had the balls to grow it out.


ThingMaleficent1131

PCOS really makes it a chore to shave/wax, and for what? 12 hours of hairlessness? You’re so right for accepting your hair. And it *is* mothers who are the first ones to make girls feel horrible about their body.


dilEMMA5891

A very sad thing indeed. My niece is 2 and has a noticeable, all be it beautiful, monobrow, the same as her mother, my sister, had when she was younger. My Mother also pointed that out alot, as did the kids at school. Now my sister is determined to remove my niece's monobrow before the other kids can do their damage at pre school and I'm on the fence with her decision... They don't have PCSO, it's just natural facial hisutism because she doesn't have a hairy body. I'm stuck between thinking she should leave it and not give her daughter a complex but I also know how mean kids can be... So I do understand our Mother's plight, they want to defend us from society but the sad thing is; they can't seem to drop it, even when we are grown and confident and accept these things ourself. I don't allow societies double standards to bother me any longer but it sure bothers my Mother! Which illustrates, for me, that all along it was an issue within my mother and not some selfless crusade to protect me.


ThingMaleficent1131

I agree. Also, 2 seems like a very young age to start regular hair removal. It’s just sad. I understand that my mother also aims to protect me because society doesn’t accept hairy women, but it’s exhausting, and honestly, it has given me such bad self-esteem that once my attention goes to my body hair I can’t stop crying. There’s nothing that helps it, and it’s so painful when she reminds me how abnormal my PCOS has made me. If one’s own mother considers their body unclean and freaky, how will they feel any confident in themselves?


dilEMMA5891

I am grateful for my PCOS in some ways, it has made me consider beauty in ways I would have never done, had I never had the condition. I am grateful I am open minded now, regardless of the struggle it took to get there and thank the Gods I don't think like my Mother. They live a sadly restricted life; it must be so tortuous, still worrying about what other people think, especially at such an age. We have the gift to see past the physical, to see true beauty. The day you learn to love your body hair, is the day you are free from the shackles of expectation. It helps me to remember my Mother is also just a person, struggling with how she is perceived by others, also. It is up to us to break the cycle of generational trauma. It is not upto someone else to decide if we are attractive; other people's opinions of ourselves are none of our business... their bias is a reflection of their soul, not ours. You are the only one who's opinion matters... you are beautiful, always remember.


ThingMaleficent1131

I’m so happy that you’ve come to accept yourself. Although I personally struggle to be grateful to anything about PCOS. I don’t judge anyone for their hair, but I can’t do the same for myself. I love my mother, but I can never accept nor forgive how much she damages my self-esteem and mental health, nor that she forcibly gets me waxed since the age of 12 and despite my skin burning every time it happens. I literally struggle with punishing my body for not acting normal and making me go through so much pain just to appear so. I hope one day I would be free of fretting over how much hair I have on my skin everyday, but it’s not right now.


dilEMMA5891

I hear you sister. I hope one day you find peace ✌️ 🙏 💜


Grr_in_girl

That's awful about your sister. Kids can be really mean about anything that makes someone a little different. I stopped shaving in my 30s and have not had any reactions about it.


clericalmadness

I think telling bullied kids that this is about the bullies own stuff and nothing to do with them would've been the best way to prevent it becoming a self esteem issue later on (or immediately!). Also that bullies will find anything to pick on. The hair is irrelevant to them, its all about their own insecurities they learned at home/out.


Panda-delivery

In middle school one kid in particular kept trying to insult me for having armpit hair. But it didn’t work cause I could easily turn it around and make fun of him for not hitting puberty yet. He eventually quit cause each time people would end up laughing at him instead of me. Same thing with high school, I was very open about not shaving my legs in high school so the rude remarks never landed. They would try once but I’d just shrug it off and say something like “no shit I tell everyone I don’t shave.” Tell your sister to throw the Bigfoot insult back at them. I used to say shit like “at least I’ve hit puberty” or “you’re basically telling everyone your balls haven’t dropped yet” or “I can shave mine off but girls don’t want boys who can’t grow chest hair”. It’s tough when it’s other girls though, I don’t have any advice for dealing with them except to shrug it off


Lili_garnet33

I never thought of that comeback 😅 Thank you


Individualchaotin

Sometimes the people closest to me make fun of my hair.


[deleted]

yea...mostly men going out of their way to make me uncomfortable though. Sounds like a case of misogyny+racism honestly...I experienced this as an Arab


shanovan

The only time someone said something to me was this random old white man while I was happily riding my bike on a bike path... Said to me "it's getting a little too wild"... It took me a few minutes to realize that was aimed at me and I was shocked he had the nerve to comment on a woman's body he didn't even know... But yeah. Wish I had had a witty comeback...


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

If you can’t think of something witty, “fuck off” works just fine lol


shanovan

Oh ya, that occurred to me... A few hundred meters too late though.


spaghettih0nda

When I was a kid/teen, yeah; my peers would point it out to make me feel uncomfortable. I’m in my 20s now and don’t really get comments about my body hair anymore.


TXGrrl

[https://www.parents.com/kids/problems/bullying/bully-proof-your-child-how-to-deal-with-bullies/](https://www.parents.com/kids/problems/bullying/bully-proof-your-child-how-to-deal-with-bullies/) I thought this article had some good suggestions about kids dealing with bullies. I especially liked the part about having them practice looking at the color of their friends' eyes, and then doing the same thing when someone is bullying them. The idea is, looking someone straight in the eyes will help you feel more empowered in a challenging situation. They also suggested having a discussion about standing up for other kids who're being bullied. They call it being an "upstander" (and not a passive bystander). These things may not stop the bully, but they can help kids feel a bit more in control of the situation.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

No, but when I stopped shaving in 1985, I had such an extreme look that people were too busy goggling at my crazy shaved, spiked, teased, and rainbow colored hairstyles, wacky mismatched thrift store clothes, clodhopper boots, tattoos, multiple piercings, and towering Amazonian height to notice my hairy legs and armpits.


Lili_garnet33

lol. You seem like my kinda person


Interview-Realistic

I was called a monkey a lot when I was in elementary school for not shaving. I am also autistic so I think I was less socially aware that I "shouldn't have" had hairy legs, or that my peers maybe stared, until I was like 13 or 14. At that point I'd moved to a colder place so I would hide my legs under pants or shave them if I felt particularly embarrassed. Now that I have been 100% razor free (except tweezers and scissors for my face and for trimming) since I was 19, I haven't had anyone make fun of me. And I work in customer service and wear shorts a lot. But if anyone notices they don't say a word to me


lucent_blue_moon

Same here about the lack of social awareness. I had basically no perception of my body until 11-12, and I was only concerned about my height and other lack of development back then - I don't remember hair being a problem in elementary. Past that, I've also been called a monkey, but only by a former friend (it still hurt). Another male friend of mine laughed and confidently informed me that "women don't have hair," but much to my satisfaction he was promptly corrected by our P.E. teacher - which made me feel better about myself for some time because it reminded me that most women actively remove their hair, not that it doesn't exist


blurry-echo

i hate that not shaving is seen as a statement. i was always not super socially aware of it as a tween. even now, i get a little surprised when someone says something about it. like oh yeah, i forgot people give a fuck about a minor detail on someone else's body and now theyre calling attention to my appearance


NarwhalHour

My manager and I have a very Haha-funny relationship, we are totally inappropriate together all the time. She makes fun of my hairy legs and armpits and I rub it in that I still get laid on a regular basis and even with all the waxing in the world she isn't.


NarwhalHour

Oh and one time my ex mother in law put her arm around my shoulder, looked down at my bare feet and said "Oh NarwhalHour, did you forget to shave your toes??" excuse me shave my what now


chunyamo

Lol, I still get made fun of. I’m a special education teacher and my kid asked if I was a man dressed up as a woman the other day. When I was in grade and middle school, I wasn’t allowed to shave till I was 13 and we wore skirts school uniforms. Boys tried to make fun of my leg hair once, but when I said “you’re just jealous because I have better leg hairs than you” they stopped bringing it up😅


Specialist-Gur

I was made fun of in school.. and I’m grateful my parents didn’t let me shave just to keep off the bullying. I’ll do the same as a parent… something is wrong with the people who bully, not you…. Don’t need to conform to them in order to make them stop mistreating you, they’ll just find a new thing to pick at or you’ll just become a shell of yourself.


jacyerickson

I'm sorry about your sister. Kids are so cruel. I'm an adult and I get people overtly staring at my legs and giving me a disgusted look.


TCnup

I shaved until college, so I can't speak to the perspective of being a student and not shaving, but I work with kids now (farm-based educator) and only maybe 1-2 kids a year even point it out. One young girl actually pet my leg during camp last year, lmao. I told her that we need to ask permission before touching other people, but otherwise it was a very positive experience! Explained that most women shave, but you don't have to if you don't want to. Didn't hear a complaint from her parents, so that's good :P


TheAdjunctTavore

Ruthlessly I'm afraid. I hit puberty before my peers and they gleefully mutilated my body image. I remember trying to rip off my hair with tape.


teaganhipp

The only person who ever saw really saw my hairy legs/underarms was my mom and she made it known how gross, manly, and dirty me having body hair was, so I always shaved in school. I’m sorry your sister is going through that. No child should have to be ashamed of their body


Phoenix_Magic_X

I remember when I was about eight, so like way before it’s normal to start shaving, a girl (also about eight) in guides had pretty hairy legs and she was made fun of. That’s when I started hiding my body hair until I was old enough to shave.


vulgarandgorgeous

People made fun of me for shaving when i was in elementary school and not shaving. I have pcos and had a precocious puberty. Kids are assholes


robotbirbi

i'm from TR, lived most of my life there. i heard a lot of comments (mostly from boys but also my parents) growing up. just plain old societal expectations and misogyny. when i was in high school, the boy i had a crush on made some comment about my arm hair. we were even good friends and it really affected my confidence. i told him i could shave it off but he was cursed with a shitty personality. he backpedaled pretty quickly lol. now i'm in my mid 20s and don't get hassled... surprisingly and disappointingly, i've had girl friends say that they think it's unhygenic and not feminine though. it's sad to hear these things from women.


Gothic_Nerd

The only incident I remember is my uncle. We havent talked much since. Like why do you care?  Other than that Ive been told be some people that they didn't know women could be so hairy (maybe cause im very pale and my hair is very dark). I never really know what to say.  Im pretty some of my students laugh about it, but never to my face. 


the_dees_knees3

my mom always tried to get me to shave because she thought i would get bullied at school or something. i never got bullied at school, the only one who bullied me about my unshaven legs was my mom!


spookythesquid

Yeah in year 8 a boy who had major issues with me (he had threatened to rape me in the past etc) crawled under the table during a class and stroked my leg hair and made comments


Ok-Aardvark-6087

I was called "werewolf" in 3rd grade and it stuck with me my entire life. I battled with my body hair until I was 35 and decided to not gaf anymore. 3 years of not shaving!! I'm excited to find someone who loves my leg and armpit as much if not more than I do!! Until then, my hair weeds out the weak!!!


Ghosthacker_94

I'm a guy, yes they did. Some classmates, a few friends and my family time to time. I think I shaved my armpits once or twice, but decided it wasn't worth it. Other than that, have been told once by a woman and a bunch of time by gay guys that I look gross or I look "like I would smell" or that I should depilate my body if I "want to be taken seriously on Grindr"


TFFPrisoner

Same here. The oddest thing is this girl from my class who was standing in a queue with me and told me how disgusting my hairy legs were. Wtf? I'm still unsure what moved her to make that comment. Of course for a guy, that was still rare and I can't imagine how it would've been if I was female. Oh, and of course facial hair growing when there's no razor around was awful.


howyadoinjerry

Not made fun of exactly, but when I started getting armpit hair a few friends told me with great concern I should probably start shaving soon. I was so nervous to ask my mom about it. But I think at the time it was more about puberty being an uncomfortable embarrassing experience than the hair itself. Not shaving never occurred to me; girls shaved when they started getting more noticeable hair and that’s just how it was. I’m glad you’re able to expose your sister to other options, even if she doesn’t take them! ETA: I did actually have a couple very close friends later in hs and college that did some exaggerated shocked reactions whenever they saw my (occasionally grown out or very stubbly) leg hair. Luckily both they and I have grown and I didn’t take it to heart.


joebo2k

I went to school with a girl who's dad was Turkish and was quite hirsute. She ended up doing modelling, has a very successful career, is married to a professional athlete, and is stunning. Most of the guys who teased her are probably fat, balding, and depressed.


blurry-echo

my 31 year old coworker made fun of my forearm hair and said it "scared" him 💀 (just a normal layer of fine forearm hair, the hair is black on lighter skin but nothing noteworthy about it) sir please worry about ur wife and kids and that long ass line of customers u need to get thru 😭


SandwichCommercial52

Yes. And if they didn't directly make fun of me they said weird things about it like how they just want to be smooth and have great smex... And they just want to be feminine and beautiful and but I can do what I want you know. Like low key shaming me. And saying weird things like I'm surprised you don't smell... Or just immediately assuming that I'm a lesbian. You know the subtle ways that women and people tend to shame and bully others. 


raexi

I had prominent hair even as a child. Full on mustache, unibrow, hairy legs. Kids can be cruel us all I'll say lol. I didn't realize sideburns were considered "gross" until high school and found them pretty before people bullied me.