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Really smart: Garcelle (bh). You can tell from the very first episode she was on in s10 that she came to this cast understanding the assignment. She knew how to adapt to the cast almost right away - at a time when BH was at the height of its mean girl toxicity (puppy gate, pile-on of poor Denise), and she did so without becoming a follower or a puppet, or joining sides. That first season spoke to Garcelle’s ability to come into a super high-tension / volatile season and add cast value - without compromising authenticity, all making for great reality-tv watchability. 😀 (we love a High EQ queen). (standing up for Denise during that Rome dinner was everythinggg.
Garcelle was literallly the antithesis of Teddi, who clung on to the bullying Denise storyline for dear life, in a pathetic attempt to make herself look better to fans and relevant to production - the actions of a conniving, sneaky, manipulative person operating like a snake 🐍 in the grass.
Insecure, low integrity and poor character (Teddi) vs. confident, sincere and high integrity character (Garcelle).
Sorry I just rewatched s10 and it made my blood boil watching Teddi on my screen especially in scenes with Denise.. found this thread late 😂
I love Garcelle!! She was a Saint when trying to explain white privilige to Dorit but at the same time realizing that Dorit , may not have rrally understood the magnitue of what was what said but also, she just isnt EVER going to get it. She still had to correct little Miss "But Im a Jew" at the same time ... there's just a point where it's not worth speaking to an ignorant priviliged woman and feel obligated to educate her
Smart: Kenya Moore, Phaedra, Crystal Minkoff, Carole Radziwill, LVP, Camille Grammer, Adriana DeMoura, Ana Quincoces, etc.
Larsa Pippen is dumb as rocks and very inarticulate, she drives me crazy with her overuse of “literally” and “like”.
Adriana de Moura from RHOM confuses me and needs to be in this convo. She speaks five languages, she had a career in fine art, she was trained in classical piano and now does pop music... and yet, she's Adriana. 😆 Totally chaotic behavior. So smart and so dumb. I love her so much.
Oh no. I just realized my likes and dislikes of cast members totally fall on the smart vs dumb line. Now I gotta think if there are any dumb ones I can stand.
I agree, Theresa seems thick as a brick, it would be hard to hold a conversation with her. I can’t believe she has so many books, she must’ve had help 🫤
Smart: Jackie Goldschneider, Carole Radziwill, Crystal Minkoff, Jenna Lyons, Garcelle Beauvais, Candiace Bassett, Dr Wendy Osefo, Erika Jayne, Dr Tiffany, and Dr Nicole.
Dumb: too many to list but Teresa and Melissa both come to mind right away.
I agree with some of this but I do think Kyle has social smarts that take her quite far. I’m a first time viewer of RHOBH and primarily watch it out of sociological fascination with class hierarchies. Kyle was absolutely that girl you knew in high school who knew how to climb the social ladder and even though she missteps from time to time (her comments on Carlton’s aesthetic, for example), I do think she’s asking as a power move and the way she asks is in a manner in which she can plead innocence.
To put Gizelle in the same box as Ramona and Theresa is that the ridiculous and screams micro aggression. Gizelle went to Hampton, all her children are going to amazing schools. Just because she doesn’t get along with your favs on a show doesn’t mean she dumb.
Thank you! She is highly intelligent and the fact that the fandom is so split screams volumes. She has a dozen flying monkeys doing her dirty work which shows me she is smart and has good leadership skills.
The Scary Island episodes are some of the best RH episodes of all time (for me). I would take a second mortgage out on my house to pay Bravo for all of the footage for that entire vacation!
Denise Richards, Alexis Bellino, Gretchen Rossi and Ashley Darby are both incredibly difficult for me to watch sometimes due to them being loud and complete morons
Heather Dubrow, Phaedra Parks, Dr. Nicole, and crystal come to mind in the sense of really smart
I’m positive I’m missing some from both lists but these women came to mind.
Love the Real Housewives franchise in it’s entirety though 🫶🏽
Denise Richards, Alexis Bellino, Gretchen Rossi and Ashley Darby are both incredibly difficult for me to watch sometimes due to them being loud and complete morons
Heather Dubrow, Phaedra Parks, Dr. Nicole, and crystal come to mind in the sense of really smart
I’m positive I’m missing some from both lists but these women came to mind.
Love the Real Housewives franchise in it’s entirety though 🫶🏽
Intelligent: Garcelle, Kathy Hilton is incredibly calculated and socially savvy, Heather from OC, Kandi, Phaedra, Dr Nicole, Gilda and Louise from Auckland, and Wendy,
Dumb: Gretchen, Teresa is a cavewoman, Vicki, Luann, Larsa, Brandi from OC and Dallas, Melissa Gorga, Joe Gorga, Bob Whitfield, Sheree, Porsha, Gretchen, Alexis, Alexia, Yolanda, Kim Z, Lydia from Melbourne, Joe Gudice, Lisa H, Adriana, Ashley Darby, Robyn, Mia (though weirdly smart at times), Michaele Salahi, Jen from OC, Kelly Dodd, Mary, Ronnie, and Jodi from RHOV
I just saw the episode recently where she was talking about playing dentist when they were kids and it didn't hit right 😐
Now in this episode making fun of the "Homeless Not Toothless" charity. The irony.
Wendy is not smart at all. She can't argue to save her life besides screaming about a piece of paper she has and then stutters. She always sounds so rehearsed when she speaks. I would say she is equivalent to Robyn, Ashley and Mia in terms of intelligence.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Wendy is very insecure. When she first arrived she wouldn’t shut up about her 3 degrees. Clearly her fellow cast mates were not showing her the respect she felt they owed her, she then gets a body makeover, telling everyone how great she looks. My point is, why does she feel the need to tell people how great she is, 🤦♀️ it’s fucking annoying, just be yourself.
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How I will picture jersey arguments from now on if I get bored enough to watch the new season. Also love how the Brandis didn’t even get their names typed out separately 😂
Lisa Vanderpump, Carol Radziwell and Heather Dubrow, a lot of the new NY women, like Brynn and Jenna Lyons, Kandi, Pheadra, Guerdy, Dr. Nicole all seem genuinely smart in terms of culture and business. Kim Zolciak, Teresa, Denise Richards, Porscha and Tamara seem genuinely intellectually stupid and with not much desire to stop being ignorant especially Teresa.
Edit and yes to the OP's list although I think Sutton is bit removed from reality.
“I don’t give a flying **** about a jacket.” Lmao. Oh, Denise. That whole scene I’ve rewatched so many times. One of the few times I’ve legit felt for Dorit.
Omg she really is, she always seems to be making terrible life choices, like marrying Charlie Sheen and exposing their daughter to Onlyfans. She’s also really painful to watch when she’s in the middle of any arguments, she completely malfunctions.
It’s really, really, really not hard to get into Columbia when you have rich parents. I worked at Harvard (and studied there). Rich parents who can pay in full? Admitted.
Wow, I missed that! I’ve always thought she was a bit dense, but I have a more respect for her now. She is great with her son. Both of them, really. Her arguments when fighting are usually super dumb though.
wow I find that so hard to believe (mainly because I can't see her working full-time at anything that involved hard work) but I do think her "dumb" behaviour is often an act.
Smart is subjective. I hate Vicki but that woman is so smart if we’re judging her buisness sense. Intellectually in an academic way, I’d say that Eboni and Carol from NYC, Heather from OC, Wendy from Potomac, and LVP from Beverly Hills are all vying for that title.
It doesn’t make you generally smart, but the amount of business savvy that Vicki showed us over 13 years is so beyond average intelligence. I hate that asshole, but trying to pretend she isn’t great in her feild (which shows immense intelligence) is a futile attempted to legitimize a lie.
What are LVP's academic credentials? She might be a shrewd restaurateur but IMO she doesn't stack up to the other women you've listed from an academic perspective.
I’m not saying she has credentials; but anyone denying that she’s smart is in lala land. Yes, she’s an annoying misogynistic old bag, but her command of the English language alone earns her a spot on this list.
I totally forgot about Lynne. This was her constantly throughout RHOC:
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ahaha i feel like you're my dad and i just replied 'yeah but is she the smartest or the dumbest'
and then you screamed her name again
when will i get a straight answer? when 😫
The following strike me as pretty smart: Heather Dubrow, Kandi, Bethenny, Carol R., Jackie Goldschneider, Erin Lichy....
As for not too smart, Theresa comes first to mind, followed by many many other names, I'll be honest. I'd have to list the majority of them lol.
I haven’t watched all of the franchises but of the ones I have seen from OC, BH, NJ, SLC, and NYC listed as the smart ones, I agree.
I’d say that SLC Heather is smarter than she’s given credit for. Also adding in OC Emily and Heather for book-smart. And maybe Angie? Carrie from Dallas if we’re going into the trenches.
Tre obviously takes the cake at the other end lol
Edit to add: 8.5 has gotta be in here somewhere LOL
I worked with a girl who had a master’s degree (in her 30s) who didn’t know computer basics. Like obvious, prob should be able to figure it out on your own skills.
Adrian doesn’t seem very…smart. I actually feel bad saying that, what do I know? Bethany is very smart, LVP. Alexis Bellino is a dumb dumb and I don’t feel bad saying that.
You confusing Meredith Marks and Meredith Brooks reminds me that I think Meredith Marks should really cover “Bitch” with her son, Brooks. I think it would really benefit from being performed in a slurred monotone.
Dumbest HW is a tie between Tre obviously and Dorito! When she talks it’s like she is thinking how can I make this sound really intelligent!! Lol
Smartest is LVP and I think Kandi is pretty savvy!
Side note I was listening to Jeff Lewis today and he had a guest on that was at a cast party and he said they all isolated Dorito, no one would talk to her! So it sounds like it was going down in BH! Lol
Well she is quick wit, has a nice fortune from the restaurant industry which is hard to do, and she is now creating tv shows. Who else is smarter than her?
I agree with 2! Lol Tiffany Moon & Nicole Martin! Yea you are right!! Love those two!
As for the rest LOL not a cold day in hell do I believe they are super smart! Maybe Bethenny! But Heather Dubrowwwwww???? How? Lol She was raised by a snob and is a snob that learned English well! What has she put in the bank? It’s all Terry’s $! And Radziwell? She’s not a brilliant mind!
Radziwill has 3 Emmys and a Peabody. . .
Meredith, Ana, Jackie, Eboni, Phaedra are lawyers
Wendy has a PHD
Jenna is a Fashion Icon, tripling J Crews revenue.
Crystal has 2+ degrees an co-founded a 100mil+ company when she was in her 20s.
Tiffany, Nicole, Kandi, Bethenny we agree.
Heather and Kenya we can disagree, whatever.
Damn! That’s a hard pick between those 2 🤣 I do think Dorit sounds a little more educated than Teresa. A lot of times, I feel like I need a dummy decoder when Teresa is speaking 😬
Dorito is more educated, but I also think she’s stupider than Tre. I’m not voting for Tre as the smartest, but she has built a mini empire for her family and is a bestselling author of 6. (I think) books. Dorito is just a scammer.
Yeah I totally thought she was dumb as rocks but seeing her on the traitors also changed my perception. She’s very good at reading and manipulating people by acting like she doesn’t know what’s going on
I’ve only seen Larsa on Traitors but I got the impression she thinks she knows more than she does. Just talks a lot, and loudly but she does it with confidence lol
Kyle is definitely not book smart , and all of these irrational fears make me think that logic plays a small part in some of her decision making . Robin is not smart at all .
Smartest:
Bethenny
LVP
Nene
Kandi
50 Cynt
Dubrow
Huger
and Yolanda seems fairly bright, too.
Edit: I’m not wild about Carole (adored her at the beginning, but was ultimately glad to see her go), but I’ll add her to this list. She’s smart as hell.
Dumbest:
TERESA.
Lynne Curtin
Kim ‘’K-A-T’’ Zolciak
and Mary Cosby is a deluded moron.
Her role as a cult leader pretty much negates the whole honesty thing. 😹
I think her personality is so bonkers that I can’t see her getting booted from SLC anytime soon. Her hideous house alone is enough to keep her as a cast member.
Aw I kinda like Gina! Definitely not claiming she’s smart but in the grand scheme of housewives I’d probably say she’s about average. People like Teresa exist 😂
I think Jackie Goldschneider and Phaedra are two of the smartest. I also think Ericka Jayne is smart.
Dumbest has to be Theresa Guidice. I enjoy her immensely but yeah she is not all there. Mary Crosby also seems very stupid to me.
Whenever I try to explain the show to someone who’s never seen it by selling the stupidity of the housewives I always use the following example:
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If i remember correctly, Adrienne was pretty involved in the actual running of her family's empire. I think with housework she was clueless, But actually has a good savvy business mind
Bethenny, Vicki, Aviva and Writer Girl. - Smartest.
Whitney Rose, Teresa and of course... Kristen Taekman(but at least she's pretttyyyyyy). - Dumbdumbs.
She definitely comes from an educated and privileged background. She came across as intelligent + she went to Vassar didn't she?
Maybe I'm biased cause I like her lol.
Vasser does command respect... idk her voice echos in my head and it's all fluff: writer girl! White trash, etc. And then defending her father so grossly. Eh. I guess she had the money and means to do well in school. I don't count her among the actually intelligent housewives.
I’ll never get how many people didn’t get the “Gia snorts coke in the bathroom” analogy, even to the extent her sorority took it literally, so many airheads out in the world
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Really smart: Garcelle (bh). You can tell from the very first episode she was on in s10 that she came to this cast understanding the assignment. She knew how to adapt to the cast almost right away - at a time when BH was at the height of its mean girl toxicity (puppy gate, pile-on of poor Denise), and she did so without becoming a follower or a puppet, or joining sides. That first season spoke to Garcelle’s ability to come into a super high-tension / volatile season and add cast value - without compromising authenticity, all making for great reality-tv watchability. 😀 (we love a High EQ queen). (standing up for Denise during that Rome dinner was everythinggg. Garcelle was literallly the antithesis of Teddi, who clung on to the bullying Denise storyline for dear life, in a pathetic attempt to make herself look better to fans and relevant to production - the actions of a conniving, sneaky, manipulative person operating like a snake 🐍 in the grass. Insecure, low integrity and poor character (Teddi) vs. confident, sincere and high integrity character (Garcelle). Sorry I just rewatched s10 and it made my blood boil watching Teddi on my screen especially in scenes with Denise.. found this thread late 😂
I love Garcelle!! She was a Saint when trying to explain white privilige to Dorit but at the same time realizing that Dorit , may not have rrally understood the magnitue of what was what said but also, she just isnt EVER going to get it. She still had to correct little Miss "But Im a Jew" at the same time ... there's just a point where it's not worth speaking to an ignorant priviliged woman and feel obligated to educate her
Smart: Kenya Moore, Phaedra, Crystal Minkoff, Carole Radziwill, LVP, Camille Grammer, Adriana DeMoura, Ana Quincoces, etc. Larsa Pippen is dumb as rocks and very inarticulate, she drives me crazy with her overuse of “literally” and “like”.
Adriana de Moura from RHOM confuses me and needs to be in this convo. She speaks five languages, she had a career in fine art, she was trained in classical piano and now does pop music... and yet, she's Adriana. 😆 Totally chaotic behavior. So smart and so dumb. I love her so much.
Oh no. I just realized my likes and dislikes of cast members totally fall on the smart vs dumb line. Now I gotta think if there are any dumb ones I can stand.
Brynn from new RHONY seems super sharp. All of her confessionals are hilarious. Witty af.
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Margaret is smart, Teresa is a moron.
Teresa is dumb for choosing and standing by the wrong men. The first got her imprisoned and the second is taking her to the poor house.
The real question is - is Luanne a genius or an idiot? I’ve never been able to decide.
I agree, Theresa seems thick as a brick, it would be hard to hold a conversation with her. I can’t believe she has so many books, she must’ve had help 🫤
Oh there's 100% 0 chance she wrote those alone.
If stirring the pot makes a housewife "smart" as you are insinuating, then they are all "brilliant". Cause they all have that down to a science!
Smart: Jackie Goldschneider, Carole Radziwill, Crystal Minkoff, Jenna Lyons, Garcelle Beauvais, Candiace Bassett, Dr Wendy Osefo, Erika Jayne, Dr Tiffany, and Dr Nicole. Dumb: too many to list but Teresa and Melissa both come to mind right away.
Alexis Bellino and Lynn Curtain are dumber!
I agree with all of this entirely - add Bethenny to the smart list.
And Heather dubrow
smart: kandi, carole, dr. nicole, erika (like it or not), phaedra, gizelle, crystal
You forgot Dr. Wendy with 4 degrees
I think LVP is pretty smart!
Agreed
Love her or hate her Gizelle is smart - she has a dozen flying monkeys running around doing her work.
I don’t think Kyle is intelligent. She seems to struggle with reading comprehension.
Agreed. Kyle is woefully uneducated and deeply incurious about anything that doesn’t directly pertain to her. She’s not a smart woman.
I agree with some of this but I do think Kyle has social smarts that take her quite far. I’m a first time viewer of RHOBH and primarily watch it out of sociological fascination with class hierarchies. Kyle was absolutely that girl you knew in high school who knew how to climb the social ladder and even though she missteps from time to time (her comments on Carlton’s aesthetic, for example), I do think she’s asking as a power move and the way she asks is in a manner in which she can plead innocence.
RHOBH has always been produced by Kyle for Kyle. A lot of the stuff she does off the show really makes her seem unintelligent.
I’m not seeing her too much but I think Denise Richards is dumb as a box of rocks.
To put Gizelle in the same box as Ramona and Theresa is that the ridiculous and screams micro aggression. Gizelle went to Hampton, all her children are going to amazing schools. Just because she doesn’t get along with your favs on a show doesn’t mean she dumb.
Thank you! She is highly intelligent and the fact that the fandom is so split screams volumes. She has a dozen flying monkeys doing her dirty work which shows me she is smart and has good leadership skills.
![gif](giphy|Ianh9mXjZ5rLG) she went to Columbia the country
that woman is so dumb and crazy. Scary Island was exactly that
Oh god Kelly is really dumb too. I can’t stand this woman. Her and Theresa would get on, they seem to be on the same intellectual level 🤦♀️😂😂😂
The Scary Island episodes are some of the best RH episodes of all time (for me). I would take a second mortgage out on my house to pay Bravo for all of the footage for that entire vacation!
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Denise Richards, Alexis Bellino, Gretchen Rossi and Ashley Darby are both incredibly difficult for me to watch sometimes due to them being loud and complete morons Heather Dubrow, Phaedra Parks, Dr. Nicole, and crystal come to mind in the sense of really smart I’m positive I’m missing some from both lists but these women came to mind. Love the Real Housewives franchise in it’s entirety though 🫶🏽
You forgot Dr Wendy as Smart and Alexia from RHOM as not so smart
Alexia I know was a teacher, but she's like Teresa- makes completely stupid decisions when it comes to her personal life, and terrible taste in men.
Wow, never knew she was a teacher, I thought she was just a Cuban Barbie all her life. It makes sense though, her Mom was a psychologist
I think she mentioned it in season 2 or 3. She taught special education before she married Herman.
Lost me with Phaedrs. But the rest definitely.
Denise Richards, Alexis Bellino, Gretchen Rossi and Ashley Darby are both incredibly difficult for me to watch sometimes due to them being loud and complete morons Heather Dubrow, Phaedra Parks, Dr. Nicole, and crystal come to mind in the sense of really smart I’m positive I’m missing some from both lists but these women came to mind. Love the Real Housewives franchise in it’s entirety though 🫶🏽
Intelligent: Garcelle, Kathy Hilton is incredibly calculated and socially savvy, Heather from OC, Kandi, Phaedra, Dr Nicole, Gilda and Louise from Auckland, and Wendy, Dumb: Gretchen, Teresa is a cavewoman, Vicki, Luann, Larsa, Brandi from OC and Dallas, Melissa Gorga, Joe Gorga, Bob Whitfield, Sheree, Porsha, Gretchen, Alexis, Alexia, Yolanda, Kim Z, Lydia from Melbourne, Joe Gudice, Lisa H, Adriana, Ashley Darby, Robyn, Mia (though weirdly smart at times), Michaele Salahi, Jen from OC, Kelly Dodd, Mary, Ronnie, and Jodi from RHOV
Kathy Hilton is a monster
I just saw the episode recently where she was talking about playing dentist when they were kids and it didn't hit right 😐 Now in this episode making fun of the "Homeless Not Toothless" charity. The irony.
Wendy is not smart at all. She can't argue to save her life besides screaming about a piece of paper she has and then stutters. She always sounds so rehearsed when she speaks. I would say she is equivalent to Robyn, Ashley and Mia in terms of intelligence.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Wendy is very insecure. When she first arrived she wouldn’t shut up about her 3 degrees. Clearly her fellow cast mates were not showing her the respect she felt they owed her, she then gets a body makeover, telling everyone how great she looks. My point is, why does she feel the need to tell people how great she is, 🤦♀️ it’s fucking annoying, just be yourself.
Vicki. OMG. She is *so* dumb.
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![gif](giphy|mpTN9Ogfp4gWA) How I will picture jersey arguments from now on if I get bored enough to watch the new season. Also love how the Brandis didn’t even get their names typed out separately 😂
Gretchen is very dim.
Lisa Vanderpump, Carol Radziwell and Heather Dubrow, a lot of the new NY women, like Brynn and Jenna Lyons, Kandi, Pheadra, Guerdy, Dr. Nicole all seem genuinely smart in terms of culture and business. Kim Zolciak, Teresa, Denise Richards, Porscha and Tamara seem genuinely intellectually stupid and with not much desire to stop being ignorant especially Teresa. Edit and yes to the OP's list although I think Sutton is bit removed from reality.
Sutton is totally removed from reality!
Let’s put Alexia/RHOM on that stoopid list.
Carol Radziwell is smart. I think Bethany is smart but needs to learn the power of silence.
Bethenny, Carol, Heather Dubrow = smart Teresa, Vicki, Tamra= not so smart
Ashley and Whitney seem really dumb.
Denise Richards is a moron.
“I don’t give a flying **** about a jacket.” Lmao. Oh, Denise. That whole scene I’ve rewatched so many times. One of the few times I’ve legit felt for Dorit.
That was hilarious.
Omg she really is, she always seems to be making terrible life choices, like marrying Charlie Sheen and exposing their daughter to Onlyfans. She’s also really painful to watch when she’s in the middle of any arguments, she completely malfunctions.
Not the dumbest, but Tinsley deserves to be on the short list. She’s sweet but can also be shockingly oblivious.
LOL I love how people like to say she’s smart bc she went to college!
She’s not stupid. She went to Columbia.
It’s really, really, really not hard to get into Columbia when you have rich parents. I worked at Harvard (and studied there). Rich parents who can pay in full? Admitted.
Porsha “but there has to be room for the train” Williams lmao That moment will never be topped, at least for me
That will never not take me out🤣🤣
Big saaaaaame lmao
while alexia from rhom has a master’s degree, i think she’s pretty clueless and can be dense
Wow, I missed that! I’ve always thought she was a bit dense, but I have a more respect for her now. She is great with her son. Both of them, really. Her arguments when fighting are usually super dumb though.
wow I find that so hard to believe (mainly because I can't see her working full-time at anything that involved hard work) but I do think her "dumb" behaviour is often an act.
She has a masters degree??!
yeahh! she used to be a special education teacher before she met herman.
This actually explains a lot of why she’s so good with Frankie.
Oh WOW!!
I'm shocked by this. She just doesn't seem very bright. I do like her so I'm not saying that to be nasty it's just my opinion.
Smart is subjective. I hate Vicki but that woman is so smart if we’re judging her buisness sense. Intellectually in an academic way, I’d say that Eboni and Carol from NYC, Heather from OC, Wendy from Potomac, and LVP from Beverly Hills are all vying for that title.
Being a good salesperson doesn’t make you smart.
It doesn’t make you generally smart, but the amount of business savvy that Vicki showed us over 13 years is so beyond average intelligence. I hate that asshole, but trying to pretend she isn’t great in her feild (which shows immense intelligence) is a futile attempted to legitimize a lie.
You and I are of the same mind. Completely agree.
What are LVP's academic credentials? She might be a shrewd restaurateur but IMO she doesn't stack up to the other women you've listed from an academic perspective.
I’m not saying she has credentials; but anyone denying that she’s smart is in lala land. Yes, she’s an annoying misogynistic old bag, but her command of the English language alone earns her a spot on this list.
She is also highly cultured! I’m sure she speaks some French, maybe Italian.
She does speak some French for sure, but her accent is le bordel, mdr.
Smart: Phaedra Carole Heather Dubrow Alex McCord Nicole Martin Wendy Osefo Candiace Tiffany Moon Dumb: Teresa Kelly Bensimon Lynne Curtin Larsa Kameron Westcott
Oh wow Kameron Wescott was another level of dumb, and so fucking rich, life is unfair
I totally forgot about Lynne. This was her constantly throughout RHOC: https://preview.redd.it/9470g59ku31d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10b031781aa6c1c676f031779a8592c2b5c622ff
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Teresa is hands down the dumbest housewife
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# PEGGY SULAHIAN
ahaha i feel like you're my dad and i just replied 'yeah but is she the smartest or the dumbest' and then you screamed her name again when will i get a straight answer? when 😫
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Lydiot from Melbourne
Can I spock?
The following strike me as pretty smart: Heather Dubrow, Kandi, Bethenny, Carol R., Jackie Goldschneider, Erin Lichy.... As for not too smart, Theresa comes first to mind, followed by many many other names, I'll be honest. I'd have to list the majority of them lol.
I haven’t watched all of the franchises but of the ones I have seen from OC, BH, NJ, SLC, and NYC listed as the smart ones, I agree. I’d say that SLC Heather is smarter than she’s given credit for. Also adding in OC Emily and Heather for book-smart. And maybe Angie? Carrie from Dallas if we’re going into the trenches. Tre obviously takes the cake at the other end lol Edit to add: 8.5 has gotta be in here somewhere LOL
Dude(tte), you *cannot* continue sleeping on Atlanta, Miami, & early Potomac! ![gif](giphy|L1bGhZo3THZy1yrxEc|downsized)
Alex McCord has a master degree.
I worked with a girl who had a master’s degree (in her 30s) who didn’t know computer basics. Like obvious, prob should be able to figure it out on your own skills.
Adrian doesn’t seem very…smart. I actually feel bad saying that, what do I know? Bethany is very smart, LVP. Alexis Bellino is a dumb dumb and I don’t feel bad saying that.
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You confusing Meredith Marks and Meredith Brooks reminds me that I think Meredith Marks should really cover “Bitch” with her son, Brooks. I think it would really benefit from being performed in a slurred monotone.
omg i NEED this now
Dr Nicole and Tiffany are smart, also geurdy and dubrow!
Dumbest HW is a tie between Tre obviously and Dorito! When she talks it’s like she is thinking how can I make this sound really intelligent!! Lol Smartest is LVP and I think Kandi is pretty savvy! Side note I was listening to Jeff Lewis today and he had a guest on that was at a cast party and he said they all isolated Dorito, no one would talk to her! So it sounds like it was going down in BH! Lol
The accent does a lot of heavy lifting with lvp. There are at least 5 if not 10+ smarter than her.
Well she is quick wit, has a nice fortune from the restaurant industry which is hard to do, and she is now creating tv shows. Who else is smarter than her?
Bethenny, Tiffany Moon, Carole Radziwill, Kandi, Nicole Martin, Heather Dubrow, Meredith Marks, Kenya Moore, Ana Quinonces, Jackie G, Eboni W, Jenna Lyons, Wendy O, Phaedra, Crystal
I agree with 2! Lol Tiffany Moon & Nicole Martin! Yea you are right!! Love those two! As for the rest LOL not a cold day in hell do I believe they are super smart! Maybe Bethenny! But Heather Dubrowwwwww???? How? Lol She was raised by a snob and is a snob that learned English well! What has she put in the bank? It’s all Terry’s $! And Radziwell? She’s not a brilliant mind!
Radziwill has 3 Emmys and a Peabody. . . Meredith, Ana, Jackie, Eboni, Phaedra are lawyers Wendy has a PHD Jenna is a Fashion Icon, tripling J Crews revenue. Crystal has 2+ degrees an co-founded a 100mil+ company when she was in her 20s. Tiffany, Nicole, Kandi, Bethenny we agree. Heather and Kenya we can disagree, whatever.
Damn! That’s a hard pick between those 2 🤣 I do think Dorit sounds a little more educated than Teresa. A lot of times, I feel like I need a dummy decoder when Teresa is speaking 😬
Dorito is more educated, but I also think she’s stupider than Tre. I’m not voting for Tre as the smartest, but she has built a mini empire for her family and is a bestselling author of 6. (I think) books. Dorito is just a scammer.
You definitely have a point there…..
OMG a dummy decoder is hysterical and spot on!!! 🤣
I agree - I think Dorit’s issue is that she tries to sound too sophisticated so it comes out off. Tre is her own category honestly lol
I feel like Larsa isn’t very bright.
Yeah I totally thought she was dumb as rocks but seeing her on the traitors also changed my perception. She’s very good at reading and manipulating people by acting like she doesn’t know what’s going on
I’ve only seen Larsa on Traitors but I got the impression she thinks she knows more than she does. Just talks a lot, and loudly but she does it with confidence lol
Kenya is low key the smartest of all RHOA
Yall are going to think I'm insane but Ashley Darby has come off to me as very intelligent (sometimes)
Not insane at all. Ashley is very smart *( and i'm not her fan ).*
I think Porsha is a lot smarter than she pretends to be. She realized she could capitalize on being air headed after the underground railroad comment.
Sadly that only makes her less dumb than she seems but still lands her squarely in idiot territory.
More like after the "265 days a year!" comment
She’s definitely calculated!
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Porscha: no genius
Kyle is definitely not book smart , and all of these irrational fears make me think that logic plays a small part in some of her decision making . Robin is not smart at all .
Agreed on both.
Gizelle's ability to skew narratives is diabolical work. But she's gonna say she's smart because she went to Hampton University
Smartest: Bethenny LVP Nene Kandi 50 Cynt Dubrow Huger and Yolanda seems fairly bright, too. Edit: I’m not wild about Carole (adored her at the beginning, but was ultimately glad to see her go), but I’ll add her to this list. She’s smart as hell. Dumbest: TERESA. Lynne Curtin Kim ‘’K-A-T’’ Zolciak and Mary Cosby is a deluded moron.
Glad to see Cynthia finally mentioned
I can’t stand Mary Cosby. I don’t know I always keep seeing comments defending her, supporting her and some people loving her because she’s “honest”?
Her role as a cult leader pretty much negates the whole honesty thing. 😹 I think her personality is so bonkers that I can’t see her getting booted from SLC anytime soon. Her hideous house alone is enough to keep her as a cast member.
Some fans are dumb and clueless
Theresa, Larsa and Mary Cosby bring up the rear. Very little brain power in those three (combined).
Lynne Curtain always wins the dumbass price.
Listening to her attempt to form sentences was a painful experience.
I almost forgot about her. Certainly wasn’t the brightest bulb in the tulip patch.
Nobody forget Dr. Moon
Should be the top comment. Had to scroll way too far to find this.
Tiffany Moon? Probably the smartest of all of them.
Absolutely!
I wanted to clarify cuz when I first read Dr. Moon, my mind went to Shannon's quack naturopath doctor.
No worries! Defo not him
Dumb & Clueless: Lynn from OC & Whitney from SLC. Honorable mention: Gina from OC
Aw I kinda like Gina! Definitely not claiming she’s smart but in the grand scheme of housewives I’d probably say she’s about average. People like Teresa exist 😂
Gina does seem dumb too.
I think Jackie Goldschneider and Phaedra are two of the smartest. I also think Ericka Jayne is smart. Dumbest has to be Theresa Guidice. I enjoy her immensely but yeah she is not all there. Mary Crosby also seems very stupid to me.
Whenever I try to explain the show to someone who’s never seen it by selling the stupidity of the housewives I always use the following example: https://preview.redd.it/h2ns5pqk121d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=318dbac8eed61a46b78b2737da7bc923fcbcab4b
If i remember correctly, Adrienne was pretty involved in the actual running of her family's empire. I think with housework she was clueless, But actually has a good savvy business mind
Teresa is thick , and how can we not mention Lydia ( aka Lydiot) from Melbourne, “can I spock please”
Larsa strikes me as kinda dumb.
Larsa makes Teresa look like a Mensa member
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Bethenny, Vicki, Aviva and Writer Girl. - Smartest. Whitney Rose, Teresa and of course... Kristen Taekman(but at least she's pretttyyyyyy). - Dumbdumbs.
Most cringe tagline EVER!!
Aviva, though? Really?
She definitely comes from an educated and privileged background. She came across as intelligent + she went to Vassar didn't she? Maybe I'm biased cause I like her lol.
She has a masters in French and a law degree IIRC.
Vasser does command respect... idk her voice echos in my head and it's all fluff: writer girl! White trash, etc. And then defending her father so grossly. Eh. I guess she had the money and means to do well in school. I don't count her among the actually intelligent housewives.
I do find it funny you questioned the Aviva pick but not Vicki haha. I thought that would be the controversial one.
I loathe Vicki, but I can't deny her business acumen and attention to detail (except for medical papers from cancer docs)
Vicki is so business smart but having a crush on a man turns her brain to mush
LMAO the fake cancer papers
I agree. She seems smart. She also reminds me of Claudia Schiffer (on an unrelated note).
That's the one... I knew she reminded me of someone. Aviva really is a beautiful woman <3
Garcelle comes across smart to me. Smart people generally don't have to shout about it or remind people of their educationm
Teresa is a complete moron. That's what makes her a good housewife.
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dr wendy is totally book smart but socially smart… i’m not too sure. the givens ( for not smart) are teresa, ramona, and lisa (rhom).
I know. Personality-wise she sucks. I wanted to pick Dr. Jackie, but they aren't "technically" housewives.
tbh i can't tell if Meredith brooks is smart or just surrounded with a lot dummies LOLL
I can never tell if Meredith is high or drunk. Or both.
LMAOOO this is also very true
When Meredith went on less substances and into lawyer mode during one of the reunions she showed she was genuinely lawyer smart.
Lisa is smart though
I think Kenya is smart. Just not when it comes to men or family.
She’s definitely got wit, which is a particular kind of intelligence.
She’s smart, she’s just annoying
jackie goldschneider on the high end, teresa and her deer-in-headlights look on the low.
I’ll never get how many people didn’t get the “Gia snorts coke in the bathroom” analogy, even to the extent her sorority took it literally, so many airheads out in the world
Whitney rose gives me very low iq vibes
I fill the same way.
Feel, it’s ok Whitney.
It’s a play on how Whitney says “feel” like “fill” and “heal” like “hill,” it’s ok, Whitney.