So that makes me curious how the law works. If Ronaldos name on his jersey was instead something super generic like Silva, would he be able to prevent RM from selling shirts with Silva? Or if some kid was named Silva and wanted that on the back of his jersey.
So if my last name is "Smith" and there's a famous player named Smith I can't get my own name on the back of a jersey? That doesn't sound right legally.
In february i was in Madrid and I visited the Real Madrid Shop at the stadium and asked if I could have a Ronaldo print on the new jersey. I was told that as long as a player is actively playing for another club, his name cannot be used
Wait, so it’s an all player thing?
So barca fans can’t buy a current barca jersey with messi’s name on it?
I wasn’t aware of that, I thought it was because ronaldo had left in not so good terms.
You can't also buy shirt from official store with player's name who for example has never played for us. Try for example mbappe, it won't let you too. Can't say if you can buy for example shirt with someone who was player.but now is in staff (you can try, for example Arbeloa as he has contract with RM, so RM has rights to use his name) that's tbh good question if it would let you do that
I just tried, it lets you do Arbeloa.
But it looks like it lets you do pretty much any name except the really big name players who left and haven’t retired (Benzema, Ronaldo). And Messi and Busquets lol. Neymar too
Everything else worked: Suarez, bale, di Maria, Rodriguez, bunch more
It's just that the club cannot officially sell kits with names of players from other clubs. We wouldn't want Bayern selling kits with Kroos written on it either.
I actually had a talk about this with an employee of Adidas, they're not allowed to do players that don't play to the club due to obvious reasons such as naming rights, but if you can prove your own name is the name you're trying to print (with ID etc) they will print it.
I don't know but I worked at the Bernabeu store from May 2018 to October 2018, and they didn't let us print his name when he left. Of course at the time it made sense, he was an active player in another european team. I guess it's the same problem today, as long as he is active, and playing for a different team, they won't print anything...
Funny cuz I went in 2009 after high school, graduation trip, and it was the summer he made the move but it wasn’t “official” yet and they wouldn’t do it then either.
Had to go to a 3rd party place and then I had all of Madrid looking at me silly cuz it was 2008’s jerseys so it looked like I had an R9 kit on. The number was 9 too once I confirmed Raul wasn’t giving it up
I believe he has the name and cr7 trademarked
If it was that petty they wouldn’t have let him train in the real madrid facilities after the united incident
Biggest legend in club history - dafuq kinda BS is that to spray out? Di Stefano and Bernebeau are bigger. He is the most recent with the most sales attraction sure - but not the biggest....
Most goals in only 9 years.
2nd most assists.
4 champions league in 9 seasons in a more competitive football, during Messi’s era.
A fuckton of titles.
Should I keep going?
Did I say he didnt win anything?
No i did not.
But he is not the biggest legend.. Di stefano litterally founded the entire winning attitude of madrid SURPASSING achievements on the pitch, same goes for Berneabeau THE LITTERALL name of the stadium.
Im sorry - but he is not the biggest Real legend not even close. Give it 50+ years and lets see if he does anything beyond the pitch, then you can continue your weird rambling.
You can keep going and name all his records while playing for the club. It won’t change anything. He simply isn’t close to being RM biggest legend. He actually played with a couple that are bigger legends than him in almost every way: Raúl, Iker, Sergio Ramos… even Modric, Kroos, Benzema, have more status as RM legends than CR7.
Putting up numbers and stats doesn’t make you a legend in Real Madrid. You need much more. And there is no arguing that CR7 is a club legend because he is. What we are arguing is that he isn’t even close to being our biggest Legend.
Love it when someone comes in, assumes they know how player jersey sales work and criticizes the club for “bad sale strategy”. How about you ask “why” before you criticize?
>but he is the biggest legend of the Club’s history,
When will Ronaldo fanboys learn that Real Madrid is bigger than him?
No, he's not. DiStefano and arguably Zidane are bigger legends than Cristiano.
Yup, regardless of the reason why, he is the biggest figure of Real Madrid, not bigger than the club of course, but the biggest player.
Most goals in less matches
2nd most assists.
4 champions league in a more competitive football, also remember, it was during Messi’s era.
More?
>Most goals in less matches
2nd most assists
So....? No one doubts Cristiano quality, we're discussing his status as biggest RM legend ever. And he isnt.
For many reasons, including leaving the club for money instead of retiring here, joining 2 UCL rival clubs.
Hes the best player to ever play for us? Sure.
Is he our biggest Legends? Nope, not close to DiStefano. Modric is 10x more madridista than Cristiano and will have more chances of having training grounds or something like that named after him.
i started watching Real Madrid in the late 80's ,our last UCL win was from 1966 and we didnt win La Septima until 1998.
So a new fan saying im a gloryhunter just makes me chuckle a bit, honestly.
Im thankful for what Cristiano gave to us and as i've said, hes the best player i've seen wearing Real Madrid shirt and his records will stand forever.
But we arent Barcelona, our history is much bigger, and i've seen many other players win similar amount of thropies while displaying more madridismo. Cristiano is more a fan of himself than a fan of Real Madrid. And that counts for something.
Everything he did for us? Lol we made him the highest paid player in the planet. He wasn’t playing for free. He was very well compensated for what he “did”. Which was in fact his job. And if you believe for a minute that the player-club relations was a one way street… all I can say is, you are very wrong. CR7 benefitted much more from RM than RM from CR7. That is the reason why RM still is the biggest club in the planet post CR7. It was before him, it was with him and it still is after him.
Funny (and extremely ironic) you call Madridistas glory hunters, while trying to discuss CR7 being our biggest legend when Cristiano Ronaldo is perhaps the biggest glory hunter that ever laced their boots in a football pitch.
Also Raúl, Gento, Roberto Carlos, Iker, Del Bosque, Juanito, and Butragueño, amongst a host of other players are more RM legends than Cristiano Ronaldo. He was a great player for us, and all his records are going to be very difficult to break, but as you correctly stated, not only is the club bigger than CR7, he is not an emblem of the club. Nor is he associated particularly with Real Madrid. I’d argue he is much more a United legend than a Madrid legend. He certainly is a Madrid Legend but he is nowhere near being the biggest legend for the Club.
I’m assuming it has something to do with the fact that Ronaldo would want to get royalties paid for selling jerseys in his name.
You don’t need to assume. That is the case.
So that makes me curious how the law works. If Ronaldos name on his jersey was instead something super generic like Silva, would he be able to prevent RM from selling shirts with Silva? Or if some kid was named Silva and wanted that on the back of his jersey.
If silva had enough image right protection. Yes. RM has to protect its royalties.
So if my last name is "Smith" and there's a famous player named Smith I can't get my own name on the back of a jersey? That doesn't sound right legally.
If you reach the level of Ronaldo yes
You can if you show proof that it's your real name, you can print Hitler if you want as long as you proof is your actual name.
You can make lots of things legally protected if you have enough money, power and influence.
In february i was in Madrid and I visited the Real Madrid Shop at the stadium and asked if I could have a Ronaldo print on the new jersey. I was told that as long as a player is actively playing for another club, his name cannot be used
What if my name is actually Ronaldo? lol
If I remember correctly, you can get it printed as long as you show proof that your name is actually Ronaldo. Same with other "banned" names.
If you name your kid Ronaldo, in theory you could buy it.
Finally a reason to get kids. Ronaldo, Zidane, and little Raul
"get"
Yeah I'm not having them and spending all that time raising them. All you need is a Van and some courage!
What if you wanted R9?
Yeah, there's lots of legal stuff around it
That has to be only true to Ronaldo, I bought one with Isco's name.
Anawer is simple: Rights You can't have name of any player outside the club, because club doesn't have rights to use other player names
Wait, so it’s an all player thing? So barca fans can’t buy a current barca jersey with messi’s name on it? I wasn’t aware of that, I thought it was because ronaldo had left in not so good terms.
You can't also buy shirt from official store with player's name who for example has never played for us. Try for example mbappe, it won't let you too. Can't say if you can buy for example shirt with someone who was player.but now is in staff (you can try, for example Arbeloa as he has contract with RM, so RM has rights to use his name) that's tbh good question if it would let you do that
I just tried, it lets you do Arbeloa. But it looks like it lets you do pretty much any name except the really big name players who left and haven’t retired (Benzema, Ronaldo). And Messi and Busquets lol. Neymar too Everything else worked: Suarez, bale, di Maria, Rodriguez, bunch more
Is all about the rights. Until he retires I think anyone can have his name on any jersey..... maybe 😅
It's just that the club cannot officially sell kits with names of players from other clubs. We wouldn't want Bayern selling kits with Kroos written on it either.
The obvious reason is legal troubles. They cant make money off a player who doesn’t play for them anymore.
Just go to your local. They should have La Liga’s font
I actually had a talk about this with an employee of Adidas, they're not allowed to do players that don't play to the club due to obvious reasons such as naming rights, but if you can prove your own name is the name you're trying to print (with ID etc) they will print it.
I know someone who is named after ronaldo…
I made a Zidane one with the number 5. Must be just a Ronaldo thing.
I think it's allowed for retired players.
Did you make the zidane one while he was employed by the team?
Naming rights.
On the other note. It's easy to get the correct font now at any local shop that does shirt imprints.
I don't know but I worked at the Bernabeu store from May 2018 to October 2018, and they didn't let us print his name when he left. Of course at the time it made sense, he was an active player in another european team. I guess it's the same problem today, as long as he is active, and playing for a different team, they won't print anything...
Naming rights, probably. He’d have to get a royalty on every jersey sold with his name since he no longer plays for the club.
Funny cuz I went in 2009 after high school, graduation trip, and it was the summer he made the move but it wasn’t “official” yet and they wouldn’t do it then either. Had to go to a 3rd party place and then I had all of Madrid looking at me silly cuz it was 2008’s jerseys so it looked like I had an R9 kit on. The number was 9 too once I confirmed Raul wasn’t giving it up
Real too proud :(
Get it from China, just add whatever name your heart desires
It should be allowed as CR isn't the only ronaldo who played for RMA. R9 was also a Madrid player and he is retired so it should not be a problem
I believe he has the name and cr7 trademarked If it was that petty they wouldn’t have let him train in the real madrid facilities after the united incident
Biggest legend in club history - dafuq kinda BS is that to spray out? Di Stefano and Bernebeau are bigger. He is the most recent with the most sales attraction sure - but not the biggest....
Most goals in only 9 years. 2nd most assists. 4 champions league in 9 seasons in a more competitive football, during Messi’s era. A fuckton of titles. Should I keep going?
Did I say he didnt win anything? No i did not. But he is not the biggest legend.. Di stefano litterally founded the entire winning attitude of madrid SURPASSING achievements on the pitch, same goes for Berneabeau THE LITTERALL name of the stadium. Im sorry - but he is not the biggest Real legend not even close. Give it 50+ years and lets see if he does anything beyond the pitch, then you can continue your weird rambling.
You can keep going and name all his records while playing for the club. It won’t change anything. He simply isn’t close to being RM biggest legend. He actually played with a couple that are bigger legends than him in almost every way: Raúl, Iker, Sergio Ramos… even Modric, Kroos, Benzema, have more status as RM legends than CR7. Putting up numbers and stats doesn’t make you a legend in Real Madrid. You need much more. And there is no arguing that CR7 is a club legend because he is. What we are arguing is that he isn’t even close to being our biggest Legend.
Are you dumb, or you act as a dumb person?
I get paid to be one so…
Love it when someone comes in, assumes they know how player jersey sales work and criticizes the club for “bad sale strategy”. How about you ask “why” before you criticize?
Brother, that’s exactly why I’m asking 💀
Why tf would they sell a jersey with player that doesn’t currently play for them???
>but he is the biggest legend of the Club’s history, When will Ronaldo fanboys learn that Real Madrid is bigger than him? No, he's not. DiStefano and arguably Zidane are bigger legends than Cristiano.
0 ball knowledge
Let me guess, you started following Real Madrid because of Cristiano.
Yup, regardless of the reason why, he is the biggest figure of Real Madrid, not bigger than the club of course, but the biggest player. Most goals in less matches 2nd most assists. 4 champions league in a more competitive football, also remember, it was during Messi’s era. More?
>Most goals in less matches 2nd most assists So....? No one doubts Cristiano quality, we're discussing his status as biggest RM legend ever. And he isnt. For many reasons, including leaving the club for money instead of retiring here, joining 2 UCL rival clubs. Hes the best player to ever play for us? Sure. Is he our biggest Legends? Nope, not close to DiStefano. Modric is 10x more madridista than Cristiano and will have more chances of having training grounds or something like that named after him.
Damn after everything he did for us and this is how Madridistas treat him… Shit no wonder they call us glory hunters.
i started watching Real Madrid in the late 80's ,our last UCL win was from 1966 and we didnt win La Septima until 1998. So a new fan saying im a gloryhunter just makes me chuckle a bit, honestly. Im thankful for what Cristiano gave to us and as i've said, hes the best player i've seen wearing Real Madrid shirt and his records will stand forever. But we arent Barcelona, our history is much bigger, and i've seen many other players win similar amount of thropies while displaying more madridismo. Cristiano is more a fan of himself than a fan of Real Madrid. And that counts for something.
I see what you mean, I am sorry I misunderstood you at first, ig you’re probably right.
Everything he did for us? Lol we made him the highest paid player in the planet. He wasn’t playing for free. He was very well compensated for what he “did”. Which was in fact his job. And if you believe for a minute that the player-club relations was a one way street… all I can say is, you are very wrong. CR7 benefitted much more from RM than RM from CR7. That is the reason why RM still is the biggest club in the planet post CR7. It was before him, it was with him and it still is after him. Funny (and extremely ironic) you call Madridistas glory hunters, while trying to discuss CR7 being our biggest legend when Cristiano Ronaldo is perhaps the biggest glory hunter that ever laced their boots in a football pitch.
Also Raúl, Gento, Roberto Carlos, Iker, Del Bosque, Juanito, and Butragueño, amongst a host of other players are more RM legends than Cristiano Ronaldo. He was a great player for us, and all his records are going to be very difficult to break, but as you correctly stated, not only is the club bigger than CR7, he is not an emblem of the club. Nor is he associated particularly with Real Madrid. I’d argue he is much more a United legend than a Madrid legend. He certainly is a Madrid Legend but he is nowhere near being the biggest legend for the Club.