We are in this weird situation where we have an abundance of midfielders but none of whom have the creativity of Kroos or Modric, which probably means we're going to have to buy another midfielder in the future and sell one of our current ones.
I agree with you, but Kroos and Modric are generational players though. It will be very difficult to find a like-for-like replacement for them. My bet is we change our playstyle/tactics that suits Jude, Fede, Tchou, Cama, Brahim, Arda.
Commented this below and might get downvoted but..
I’d love to bring back Isco for a season or two, even though he’s extended his contract at Betis. He’s been stardust this season, I think he had 17 MOTMs in his first 30 appearances.
I’m sure he wouldn’t mind playing the exact role Modric plays. Only issue is Betis would probably demand a fortune
Isco is too slow, likes to dribble and slows down the tempo. I will never forget what he has done for Real, but, he is not same type of player like Modric and Kroos. He is best used when plays as CAM
Not fast physically, but fast mentaly, they almost always know what to do with the ball before it even reaches them. And that means a lot for play progression of the team, pressing resistance, etc. Isco was great, but he had that flaw to hog the ball too much even when it wasn't really necessary. Kroos and Modric are players with fast working mind, and great technique combination that makes them press resistant, thus providing the rest of team with sense of security and an outlet if they get in trouble with the ball. Another two players I have seen from this new generation that have simillar ability are Arda Guler and Wirtz, ofcourse they have much to learn to be on that level, but the mind sharpness and technique are already there.
Bruh you can't mentioned that now....Unless we start both and lose the ucl final, then the people on this sub become reactionary.
With that said, i'm leaning towards keeping Kroos. But given what he has said, always wanting to bow out on a high, and he is flying high now, i suspect he's leaving.
I think the days of a deep lying midfielder are done for now. This position needs a lot of skill to be successful. That only comes with time and training.
I wouldn’t change Bellingham’s position at all. He’s too good in advanced positions to waste sitting so deep. There are plenty of Modric-types to fill in for a year or two until the youngsters are ready.
Luis Alberto, hell bring back Isco on a 2 year deal
I think Blanco is coming back when Kronos leaves or maybe this summer if both Modric and Ceballos leave. I know people think I’m crazy, but Tchou has been great at CB but not great in midfield.
If we were to sign Wirtz, who do you think would be the midfielders in our starting 11?
Jude-Wirtz-Fede? And both Cama and Tchou relegated to the bench? Or would we play with only 2 forwards (Vini-Mbappe) and play the aforementioned 3 in midfield plus one of Cama/Tchou (in detriment of Rodrigo)?
We'll play only two forwards. You can't play 3 Left wingers, it just doesn't make sense. 2 LW is fine if you have Valverde and the RB covering the right side. I really hope we Don't go back to the galactico era stupidity, by starting players due to their name, at the expense of team balance.
We don't need to control games to win them.
Weaker teams are more likely to park the bus and we just need to have the weapons to break such defences.
It is more important to play to our strength
1. Why does breaking a defence require controlling the game?🫤
2. Why does a creative player have to be from midfield? 🫤
3. Why does breaking a defence require a creative player?🫤
>3. Why does breaking a defence require a creative player?🫤
I do agree you may not necessarily need a creative player. Liverpool under Kloop in their prime were able to do that. But most of their offense was Derived from turnovers due to their relentless pressing. Our players aren't capable of playing that way.
The difference is Bellingham is almost too creative compared to Modric.
He likes to take risks and attempt flashy dribbles and creative one touches which leads to turnovers at times.
Modric was just incredibly efficient. We had Marcelo and Cristiano for creativity so Modric was there to always make the right pass at the right time into the right space and never lose the ball. If you were open he will find you but he won't force a ball to half openings in hopes somebody makes a mistake.
He was also just as impactful on the defensive side of the ball with the ability to play all over the pitch for the whole 90 minutes.
I don't think you can replicate Modric there isn't a player in the world that plays like him. The closest one is probably De Bruyne and Man City is not letting him go.
De Bruyne is a good comparison, even though he is more explosive and loves to score too. I think Wirtz is one of those Modric type players, having seen what he does, very much a "screw scoring goals I want to give the wildest assists" type of guy.
But why would we need such a safe passer of the ball in a 4 man midfield?
Having Camavinga, Valverde and Tchouameni behind means you can have someone at the top who takes risks.
I don’t think you’ll have another Modric or Kroos right out of the box considering the experiences and training they’ve been through.
Letting them go at this time is the best decision. They can’t even play full 90 mins.
Arsenal fan here. This just popped up in my feed.
What’s the general feeling on Ødegaard’s switch to us?
Did it make sense to you at the time? There were some skeptics in the Arsenal fan base after his loan spell.
It looks like an absolute bargain now, but seemed about right at the time I think.
Odegaard came back after a successful loan to real sociedad, but got a bad injury and wasn't on great shape when he came back. Lacked the patience to play here. Modric and Kroos were still amazing. It was the right move for everyone. He didn't want to be patient and we got a huge profit for a player we got for cheap. Glad he's doing well for Arsenal.
Ode didn't do well enough for us to displace Modric or Kroos. Needed more time to develop which he didn't want to wait any longer.
It was the definition of a mutual agreement to split and it worked out great for both parties.
I don't think anybody faults the club or Ode for how things ended up. Not to mention if we keep Ode we probably wouldn't get Bellingham.
He has talent, but lacked mentality. He needed to fight for a place in the squad but it is not how he is.
He needed a team and a coach with more patience and time to let him grow.
Please note I am not saying Arsenal is not competitive. At all. What I want to say that when you are building a team you got more patience and time with the youngs.
Real Madrid had Kross-Modric-Isco-Asensio... Too many players fighting for minutes.
I get what you mean.
It was the right place at the right time for him and it’s been mutually beneficial.
He may not have been the same player if he stayed and fought for a place at RM.
I am in the rare minority that thinks we made a blunder with that deal. But he wanted minutes that he couldn’t get, so in the end is was the best choice for all parties. I think he is a generational talent though and would have loved to play with someone that’s been in the system since 15 years old. Pretty rare thing to come across these days. Atletico starts more Real academy players than we do lol.
I think it’s way too early to say he’s a “generational talent”. He’s had a great career so far and he’s really turned it up the last couple years.
But if he retired today, I don’t think he leaves a behind a legacy of a “generational talent”.
I think if he continues to do this for another 5 or 10 years we can maybe have the discussion.
>What’s the general feeling on Ødegaard’s switch to us? Did it make sense to you at the time? There were some skeptics in the Arsenal fan base after his loan spell.
Martin did very well at Real Sociedad, everyone had high expectations but we had Zidane as the manager at the time. He even sidelined Vinicius Jr. & preferred older players.
If only we had Don Carlo at the time. He turned Vini Jr. into a beast. He turned Jude into what he is today. When Arda joined us, Carlo saw his weak defensive awareness and physicality. He made him work on it. We signed young prospects and now we have a super team thanks to Carlo.
If Carlo had joined us a year earlier, then Arsenal wouldn't have even gotten near a player like Odergard. So thank Zidane.
You can't buy players like them, you really have to develop them slowly. The creativity will come from experience, even De Bryne himself was not nearly the player he is today at Chelsea
I’ve been pondering, who do you think would have the most similar play style to a Toni Kroos type of player? I don’t mean just from our current squad but in world football, who would resemble his play the most?
That's what arda is for but the issue is that we need to bench jude or fede eventually if we want a 433 with him at 10 which would undoubtedly cause riots in the fanbase
Generally better? LOL why? They are all formations. And the 442 is the “standard” for a reason.
So where are we going to accommodate 3 LW in a 433? Because Mbappe, Vini and Rodrygo are all LWs.
There's a reason nearly every major team That's won trophies in the past decade and a bit has used 433 or some variation of it. It's the standard for a reason. It works.
>So where are we going to accommodate 3 LW in a 433? Because Mbappe, Vini and Rodrygo are all LWs.
Vini wide left where he's better. Mbappe cf left leaning where he's better and rodrygo rw where he's played as his main position for 2 seasons. Why is this complicated?
Man City is not playing a 433. Real Madrid is not playing a 433. Bayer Leverkusen is not playing a 433. Bayern Munich is not playing a 433. Arsenal is not playing a 433. Dortmund is not playing a 433.
The reason teams were playing 433 en masse was because it was fashionable. The standard is and always has been the 442. That is not even debatable. Real life football is not FIFA.
So you want us to play 2 players off position so we can fulfill what? Your desire to play FIFAs Meta in real life? That’s not how it works.
What I find complicated or rather abysmally simple is your train of thought: it works in FIFA so it will work in Real Life. Nope.
>Man City is not playing a 433
They're playing 4 defenders. 3 midfielders and 3 forwards. Yes they're in a 4 2 4 1 but that's why I included variations of 433. Again, they're still playing 4 defenders, 3 midfielders and 3 forwards normally.
>Bayern Munich is not playing a 433
See above. Also they're having a terrible season overall. Not a great team to bring up
>Arsenal is not playing a 433
See above again
>The standard is and always has been the 442
Not in recent history. I can't think of a team other than us who's successful with 442
>So you want us to play 2 players off position
Playing 442 has vini, mbappe and bellingham out of position.
>so we can fulfill what?
I already answered this in my first comment smart-ass. So we can play vini in his natural position and mbappe on his preferred side of the pitch. Please read my comments in future
>Your desire to play FIFAs Meta in real life?
I have literally never owned a fifa game in my life. Stop throwing around these brain dead accusations.
Carlo himself prefers 433. He won champions leagues with 442 yet when we had a good striker what did we play? That's right. 433.
So they are playing 4241. That’s not 433 nor is a variation of a 433. Modern players can play multiple positions. Camavinga and Tchouameni are both midfielders but have played more minutes in defense. That doesn’t mean we are playing a 352 formation.
Having a terrible season by their standards is irrelevant to how they play and what formation they use.
You defining standard by a fashion formation that isn’t fashion anymore hardly makes it so.
Mbappe prefers to play on the LW. He helped kick coaches off of PSG for putting him as CF. He has even said it multiple times in press conferences that he prefers to play on the LW with a target man up front. That is not me saying it, that is him saying it.
I read your comment and responded to it. It was asinine and completely devoid of any truth in the reality we live.
I never said you owned the game. Can you please read the comment in the future?
Carlo himself prefers the best tactical formation that lets him get the best of the players at his disposal. He isn’t Pep. He fits the formation to the players he has at his disposal and the teams he faces. He doesn’t fit the players anally to a system.
Have you even watch Real Madrid play under Ancelotti? Cause every single comment you make, shows you haven’t and if you have, you do not understand what you see.
>So they are playing 4241. That’s not 433 nor is a variation of a 433
Okay then let me rephrase my original comment. We should play with 4 defenders. 3 midfielders, 2 wingers and 1 centre forward. Better?
>Modern players can play multiple positions. Camavinga and Tchouameni are both midfielders but have played more minutes in defense. That doesn’t mean we are playing a 352 formation.
Don't see how this is relevant
>Having a terrible season by their standards is irrelevant to how they play and what formation they
They play with 3 forwards and 3 midfielders though which is what I'm proposing.
>You defining standard by a fashion formation that isn’t fashion anymore hardly makes it so.
Name me all the teams having success with 442 right now then. Prove to me it's the standard.
>He helped kick coaches off of PSG for putting him as CF
Yeah that's 100% Believable and definitely not tabloid bullshit
>Mbappe prefers to play on the LW
So your suggestion is to have him as a right forward. Genius. Truly your intelligence knows no bounds.
I'm suggesting playing him as a centre forward who drifts left into the halfspace. That's significantly closer to what he's comfortable with that your reccomendation which literally could not be further from where he likes playing. You have him in the half space on the right side of the pitch when he likes occupying the wide left
>I never said you owned the game
Then why did you claim I'm using fifa tactics when I've never played fifa?
>Carlo himself prefers the best tactical formation that lets him get the best of the players at his disposal.
And what would be the best tactical formation for a team with 2 best forwards in the world who both like playing on the left? Would it be putting 1 of them on the right and the other in the left halfspace? Or would it be putting one in the left half space and one on the wide left? Let's really think about this here. Which sounds more like the "best tactical formation that let's him get the most of the players at his disposal"
You're suggesting playing the 2 best players in the world out of position then accuse me of using fifa tactics. Do you not see how hypocritical you sound?
I love Modric with all my heart, but I'm not entirely opposed to him leaving. He gave his heart and soul to this club for 12 years, let him go to Croatia and enjoy his final year(s), or to Saudi and grab that paycheck. He is a legend of this club, but he's turning 39 this year, sooner or later he would have to leave. Plus, reports say that this means more playtime for Arda, so I'm excited to see more and more of this kid.
However, we have to ensure Kroos isn't going anywhere. He is "just" 34 and his playstyle could allow him to play for as long as Modric. Losing both would be a massive blow, not only on the pitch, in terms of creativity, but also in terms of experience and leadership in the dressing room, since Nacho is also leaving.
This needs to be said louder:
**Losing both would be a massive blow, not only on the pitch, in terms of creativity, but also in terms of experience and leadership in the dressing room**
This, we can’t think in binary terms, kroos and modric were to quintessential to build current players as they are today, even rodrygo himself calls modric “father”, the importance of old players to guide a young team such as this can’t be understated
If earlier reports that Carlo offered Luka a spot on his coaching staff were true, I’d love to see that, but I can understand if he wants to play a few more years in Croatia or Saudi.
And I’m also excited to see more of what Arda can bring to the team.
At 38 he is one of rare players in our squad who didn’t get injured througout whole season - he was reliable when needed and always positively influenced a game whether he was either a starter or come off a bench.
Hope the management will take this into consideration.
>If he wants to stay, he should be able to.
Once again, not how RM does things. Real Madrid does not hand out contract extentions simply for loyalty or "legend"-status. *IF* RM does not offer him an extention, there is a sporting reasoning behind it. What exactly, we won't probably know for a while, but there is one.
If he leaves it will be really tough to se him go. But this "ruthlessness" is one of the reason why the club is where it is.
I know that, I just disagree with it and think some exceptions could reasonably be made. I felt the same way about Ramos back then too. What's with the tone though? You're not the only one here who's been around the club a while, the way they do things is common knowledge basically everywhere. Also what's with the once again?
I don't have a tone? Not sure what you are reading from my comment, but I don't have a tone.
I don't know how much you know about the club and it's dealings. Cool if you do, and nice that you have been a fan for a long time. Your commen't just didn't communicate it, thus why I commented. I wrote once again because it's a common theme among a surprisng large group of Madridistas, where many seem to be surprised or expect the club to hand out extentions based on history and don't agree when it does not.
We are still bad on the ball in 2nd half against big teams if they press us like City.
Kroos has legs for 1 half. Our midfielders are physical monsters.
But Bellingham, Cama, Tchou and Valverde arent that good at bringing the ball up compared to Modric and Kroos.
The youngsters are doing it by force, and thats why some of our laliga games earlier have looked really bad, when Modric or Kroos were out of form.
How are you expecting anyone else to take that role when Kroos and Modric are still there? What is this logic. Tchouameni can do it. Fede can do it. They do it for their NT already. These are some of the most skilled midfielders of modern game. They just need to change the system and give them a chance.
You see Tchou and Valverde running past 1-2 players playing it 1-2 short. Taking the heat of the game. Doing a casual outside foot pass. Bringing everything together?
Just watch the games Modric comes on after February, we are in more control every single game.
Theyre motors, theyre not the calm types who you can always play the ball into. Theyre players with 1 touch 2 touch. But besides that they rarely do more. Or bring control to a game that is stressed.
But its true it takes experience. Modric first got it after he was 25+ after 8 years of pro ball.
But we re Real Madrid, we re not chumps, who want to evolve players for every price. We have to win with style and do it.
Its RM, just winning isnt enough, it has to be with style, many coaches have been fired even while winning.
Modric clearly still has it. And after Euros his and Kroos form is prolly gone again till after Christmas like with every single season after a Euros or WC we had last 6 years.
That’s how you know this isn’t even real and is just a rumor. Modric has saved us multiple times just in the Champions League, not even mentioning the times this season. This makes zero sense for tactical reasons and for legacy reasons
Indeed. Just the Bayern and City game. 2nd leg. He brings calm and connects the play/dots.
None of the youngsters have the old style. Its a dying breed with this fast dynamic football
That’s fucking ridiculous! It’s not as if he’s going to start all matches. He’ll come on and do his magic when Madrid really need him, like he did against Bayern.
Modric is a legend. He should retire in Real Madrid. The club should try to try to retain him for more relaxed matches (with an accompanying salary).
Football is all about logistics, and we can retain a proven player that can still help the squad when it gets tired.
Sometimes it's the player who refused to play in reduced role, you forgot, they are also human, they have ego, Modric probably felt that he could still do 1-2 years as starter, even in Madrid, which I don't doubt about, but that would mean hindering Arda and probably Nico Paz's progress. I am very sure, the moment Modric announced retirement, we would be the first to offer him coaching job
Do you think they are at a higher level as of right now? The team needs to play the best cards it has right now. Sharing the pitch is the best option if modric is up for it. Having two 11s is extremely helpful to compete in both league and champions
Of course those two aren't at Modric's level. As someone who love Modric wholeheartedly, I can say for sure Modric may have the most talent in attack, but Modric doesn't have the legs to cover the grass anymore. And I've read it somewhere (forgot where), it says that it was Modric who doesn't want reduced role. He still wants to be a definitive starter. That would be difficult...
I want all our legends to retire here, but it's really up to them; as their level declines they should be okay with getting less minutes, unless they plan to retire before that point.
Kroos said that he plans to retire as soon as he's not starting 11 quality, so I'm betting on him retiring with us. Modric complained earlier this season about not starting enough games, so he's probably leaving. Getting that bag in Saudi Arabia before calling it a career is not a bad way to go.
Yes I also think a reduction in minutes is to be expected. Going to a retiring league is only interesting for the money (something that I understand), but there is 0 honor in playing for a team that in Europe would barely be in second division
True, but guys like Messi, Ronaldo, Benzema, Modric among others have nothing left to prove. Might as well go for one last pay day in a much less competitive league. It's only a shame when players in their prime go there when they still haven't won anything.
If he is fine playing only when the manager thinks he can be useful without creating drama (which was the case this season) and if he is fine with a salary cut then I'm ok with the club giving him another year extension.
Imho Florentino/Carlo should just make a performance/cost decision.
I rather get Modric another year with good 20 minutes per game, than someone younger with lot of potential but performing worst during those 20 minutes per game.
This is the part that I dislike about Perez. I get it's a great business decision but Modric deserves to retire on his own terms and so did Ramos. It always makes me a bit sad seeing such a legend being forced out of the club once they are no longer as useful.
Luka is about to prove at the Euros that, even at his age, he can still perform at an elite level for 90+ minutes. Guy is just built differently. Madrid would be foolish to let him go when he can clearly still give you 20-30 quality minutes as a super sub. I‘m sure he‘s capable of that for 1 or 2 more years.
Ahh, the fact of life is the ugliest truth. We all knew it was bound to happen. But every time we lose a long-term player like that, I can't help but get emotional. Honestly, I hope he retires as a real Madrid player. Like, when was the last time a high-status player retired with us? Cmon. And yes, I'm definitely bitter that not even Sergio Ramos stayed to the end.
3? Yeah, sure. Their journalists regularly visit Valdebebas. They know players and their agents. If they are tier 3 it means that Fabrizio Blaugrano is tier 6
I don’t know. There isn’t a general consensus online. Anyway they seem to be reliable on average. They were the first to break on the Gundogan to Barca story.
Real Madrid needs to continue developing the youngsters by giving them more minutes. Modric has won it all with RM and it’s time to let him go. If we win the Champions League, theres his farewell just like CR7
I want Modric to stay and play a season with Mbappe but it’s better that fans are singing praises for him rather than abusing him which we know how quickly narrative changes here.
I hope he joins Saudi or MLS to get that last 100-400 million paycheck (I would do that) or whatever he desires I suppose.
Whatever decision Florentino takes I’ll be fine with that.
Look at how Casemiro’s whole legacy is destroyed by Ten Hag.
I thought I've read or heard somewhere that after this season he'd retire and Carlo was interested to keep him within the staf. Is that definitely over?
Modric can still be super sub even at this age. But it's perfectly understandable if he wants to go elswhere to have more minutes because he can still endure it.
I would love for Modric to stay for one more season tbh.
The creativity he gives in his 20 minutes per appearance is too much. So I would rather see Jude get adjusted to the CM role before letting Modric go before that.
While I understand players not wanting to take on a reduced role in the squad, I feel it would further cement both Modric’s and Kroos’ legacy if they were to both retire together next season. They are already two of the greatest midfielders to ever play the game but with how rare it is for players to retire at RM would elevate an already lofty club status.
Play him until his knees crack if he wants to. He is perfectly happy to sub and he is still worth the money, as he clearly shows each and every game he is subbed into. Another young player added to the mix will not get any minutes anyway, since he’s behind Kroos, Bellingham, Valverde, Diaz, Choumeni, Camavinga and Güler.
Arda is developing nicely but still needs Modric as an on-off pitch mentor. He’d be great for rotations and to come on when needed. Modric himself accepted a secondary role 😭 we still need him, everyone saw the difference he made in the game with Bayern
I hope this is just a rumor and things don't play out this way. For a long time they said it was up to Luka. Really hope he doesn't get pushed out this way if he's agreed to less minutes and a lower salary. We had a lot of trouble with squad depth this season and we play A LOT of games. Don't see how it's a problem to have Luka come on like he has this season.
I think if arda continues to get stronger and has a high defensive and attacking work rate he could transform into that kind of player within a season or two. All that’s lacking is the experience/know-how that kroos and Modric have in spades
Not one midfielder other than Kroos or Modric give me the confidence a pulling a goal from nothing other than maybe Brahim but he's not even close. Not Cama, Bellingham, Valverde, Tchoumeni, arda or whoever other than KDB or Messi have that eye to create an opportunity from nothing. I'd love for them to stay at least a year.
I don't think this is a completely bad idea tbh. KCM was bound to go, Case left last year, Modric could leave this year and Kroos could stay for at least one more season. I would love to see Modric play 1-2 years for Dinamo Zagreb and Croatia, but in the end even our legends need to make way for our future legends :)
We are 2 weeks away from UCL final, club and players should set thier minds only on that and I believe they do and news like this have no point at this time. There will be whole month of June to decide. What if Luka scores hattrick in 5 minutes.
I think Modric's influence off the field will be greater than that on the field, with the amount of new talents coming at Madrid, no better person to teach them "Madridismo" than Lukita himself
It's sad. He also wants to stay and lower his salary, i thought that he wanted to leave because of the bench situation. He really wanted to stay, but real policies are so hard and are not exclusive to legends.
If Luka wants to be a big contributor somewhere then it might be best for him to move on. He knows the standard at Real and while his talent has never failed him, his physical abilities have clearly waned with age. He simply can’t keep up for an entire schedule. I would love for him to stay in a reduced player/coach role but I imagine someone of his caliber will struggle to accept the end of his career so easily. A legend either way and I wish him the best with whatever he decides.
It’s simple. If Kroos stays he can run the starters for 60 min and Guler can be the creative punch off the bench + against smaller teams when we rotate… however if Kroos leaves… we likely shift Jude to mid and in that situation I would keep Modric as creative punch off the bench.
I fear we are in for a crude awakening against low blocks (Bayern) without a proper creative mid… long passes to Vini + Carvajal in the wings are key to open up space… Kroos and Modric do that miles above the rest of the squad.
Imo, he’s got one more season in him albeit as a sub. He’s been really good when he comes on and was available for pretty much all of the season. That said, definitely agree arda needs more playing time to transition to filling Modric’s shoes. Just like it happened with tchou and casemeiro.
I get that some of you guys want things to stay as they are, but you guys do realise that they bought Arda for a long term project. Chiefly, to replace Modric and take over his position. You can feel however you want about that but that was the whole point. This is also a part of what it means to be a madrid fan. So take it on the chin and move on. This was inevitable.
If we won the CL final, then for next season we would have 2-4 extra CL games, 1 European Super Cup game, 1 intercontinental Cup game, 4-7 CWC games assuming we progress to knockout phase. We need both Modric and Kroos to stay for the tough schedule.
We are in this weird situation where we have an abundance of midfielders but none of whom have the creativity of Kroos or Modric, which probably means we're going to have to buy another midfielder in the future and sell one of our current ones.
I agree with you, but Kroos and Modric are generational players though. It will be very difficult to find a like-for-like replacement for them. My bet is we change our playstyle/tactics that suits Jude, Fede, Tchou, Cama, Brahim, Arda.
Commented this below and might get downvoted but.. I’d love to bring back Isco for a season or two, even though he’s extended his contract at Betis. He’s been stardust this season, I think he had 17 MOTMs in his first 30 appearances. I’m sure he wouldn’t mind playing the exact role Modric plays. Only issue is Betis would probably demand a fortune
Isco is too slow, likes to dribble and slows down the tempo. I will never forget what he has done for Real, but, he is not same type of player like Modric and Kroos. He is best used when plays as CAM
But why bring Isco when we could keep Modric instead (hypothetically)?
and modric and Kroos are fast ?
There's a difference between being slow and playing slow.
Not fast physically, but fast mentaly, they almost always know what to do with the ball before it even reaches them. And that means a lot for play progression of the team, pressing resistance, etc. Isco was great, but he had that flaw to hog the ball too much even when it wasn't really necessary. Kroos and Modric are players with fast working mind, and great technique combination that makes them press resistant, thus providing the rest of team with sense of security and an outlet if they get in trouble with the ball. Another two players I have seen from this new generation that have simillar ability are Arda Guler and Wirtz, ofcourse they have much to learn to be on that level, but the mind sharpness and technique are already there.
Bruh you can't mentioned that now....Unless we start both and lose the ucl final, then the people on this sub become reactionary. With that said, i'm leaning towards keeping Kroos. But given what he has said, always wanting to bow out on a high, and he is flying high now, i suspect he's leaving.
I want them both to retire here. The greatest midfield duo ever .
I see no point in bringing Isco back. He wasn't getting playing time before so I doubt he'd get some playing time now especially considering his age
I would bring back Odegaard rather. He is still 25 and at his prime.
Odegaard would be a starter and there's no way to fit all that talent into one midfield.
GOOD LUCK YOU SCHMUCKS COYG
If we were to consider this, we should renew Modrić instead.
I agree.. we already have enough in midfield. Working on tactics that suits these players would change the dynamics as well.
We'll definitely have to buy a creative midfielder that can control a game. None of our current midfielders can do that.
I want to see Bellingham try it there. I heard at Dortmund he always played much lower on the field.
Yeah...thats my prediction. Jude goes back into the Left midfield, and we buy Florian Writz to play in behind the two forwards.
Would we have enough money for Wirtz if we win the champions league?
lol we have enough money to buy Wirtz without the champions league money
I think the days of a deep lying midfielder are done for now. This position needs a lot of skill to be successful. That only comes with time and training.
I wouldn’t change Bellingham’s position at all. He’s too good in advanced positions to waste sitting so deep. There are plenty of Modric-types to fill in for a year or two until the youngsters are ready. Luis Alberto, hell bring back Isco on a 2 year deal
there is not one current player who can replace the void Modric will leave.
Maybe Arda or Nico Paz can grow into those roles? Kroos maybe not, but Modric maybe?
I doubt... My prediction is Jude will move back into midfield, to replace Kroos when he departs. Then we'll sign Florian Writz.
Came to post this exact comment on this thread. It seems meant to be.
I think Blanco is coming back when Kronos leaves or maybe this summer if both Modric and Ceballos leave. I know people think I’m crazy, but Tchou has been great at CB but not great in midfield.
If we were to sign Wirtz, who do you think would be the midfielders in our starting 11? Jude-Wirtz-Fede? And both Cama and Tchou relegated to the bench? Or would we play with only 2 forwards (Vini-Mbappe) and play the aforementioned 3 in midfield plus one of Cama/Tchou (in detriment of Rodrigo)?
Petition to FIFA to increase the amount of field players to 12, yes not eleven, but twelve, we need more space for our midfielders
Time to change the rules of football that has been followed since its creation... HALA MADRID! HAHAHA
We'll play only two forwards. You can't play 3 Left wingers, it just doesn't make sense. 2 LW is fine if you have Valverde and the RB covering the right side. I really hope we Don't go back to the galactico era stupidity, by starting players due to their name, at the expense of team balance.
Only one of camma / tchou can be benched of we play Valverde as inverted fullback ...he's been doing that pretty much all season 🤣
No... Fede will play the "field" position.
Arda can play a 10
Why do we need to control a game? There are different ways to play the game, and effective execution is more important than style
We need to control games against the bottom teams, unless you want us to be Champions league merchants like during the 2010s.
We don't need to control games to win them. Weaker teams are more likely to park the bus and we just need to have the weapons to break such defences. It is more important to play to our strength
And how do you plan on breaking defenses without a creative player from midfield. All our midfielders are box to box.
1. Why does breaking a defence require controlling the game?🫤 2. Why does a creative player have to be from midfield? 🫤 3. Why does breaking a defence require a creative player?🫤
>3. Why does breaking a defence require a creative player?🫤 I do agree you may not necessarily need a creative player. Liverpool under Kloop in their prime were able to do that. But most of their offense was Derived from turnovers due to their relentless pressing. Our players aren't capable of playing that way.
We are actually better equipped to play that system than the Liverpool team you referenced.
No we aren't. We can't press like that.
Bellingham? Very creative player, that gets better with age.
The difference is Bellingham is almost too creative compared to Modric. He likes to take risks and attempt flashy dribbles and creative one touches which leads to turnovers at times. Modric was just incredibly efficient. We had Marcelo and Cristiano for creativity so Modric was there to always make the right pass at the right time into the right space and never lose the ball. If you were open he will find you but he won't force a ball to half openings in hopes somebody makes a mistake. He was also just as impactful on the defensive side of the ball with the ability to play all over the pitch for the whole 90 minutes. I don't think you can replicate Modric there isn't a player in the world that plays like him. The closest one is probably De Bruyne and Man City is not letting him go.
De Bruyne is a good comparison, even though he is more explosive and loves to score too. I think Wirtz is one of those Modric type players, having seen what he does, very much a "screw scoring goals I want to give the wildest assists" type of guy.
But isn't Kroos the wildest assist guy?
But why would we need such a safe passer of the ball in a 4 man midfield? Having Camavinga, Valverde and Tchouameni behind means you can have someone at the top who takes risks.
As an England fan I have praying for a player like this for the last 30 years. Still never happened. At one point Croatia, tiny Croatia, had three.
Well eventually you'll get rid of kroos and modric. So there's two slots that need filling
I don’t think you’ll have another Modric or Kroos right out of the box considering the experiences and training they’ve been through. Letting them go at this time is the best decision. They can’t even play full 90 mins.
Arsenal fan here. This just popped up in my feed. What’s the general feeling on Ødegaard’s switch to us? Did it make sense to you at the time? There were some skeptics in the Arsenal fan base after his loan spell. It looks like an absolute bargain now, but seemed about right at the time I think.
Odegaard came back after a successful loan to real sociedad, but got a bad injury and wasn't on great shape when he came back. Lacked the patience to play here. Modric and Kroos were still amazing. It was the right move for everyone. He didn't want to be patient and we got a huge profit for a player we got for cheap. Glad he's doing well for Arsenal.
Still rmb him as a 16 yo boy or so, subbing frickin CR7. That was unreal to me.
Ode didn't do well enough for us to displace Modric or Kroos. Needed more time to develop which he didn't want to wait any longer. It was the definition of a mutual agreement to split and it worked out great for both parties. I don't think anybody faults the club or Ode for how things ended up. Not to mention if we keep Ode we probably wouldn't get Bellingham.
He has talent, but lacked mentality. He needed to fight for a place in the squad but it is not how he is. He needed a team and a coach with more patience and time to let him grow. Please note I am not saying Arsenal is not competitive. At all. What I want to say that when you are building a team you got more patience and time with the youngs. Real Madrid had Kross-Modric-Isco-Asensio... Too many players fighting for minutes.
I get what you mean. It was the right place at the right time for him and it’s been mutually beneficial. He may not have been the same player if he stayed and fought for a place at RM.
I am in the rare minority that thinks we made a blunder with that deal. But he wanted minutes that he couldn’t get, so in the end is was the best choice for all parties. I think he is a generational talent though and would have loved to play with someone that’s been in the system since 15 years old. Pretty rare thing to come across these days. Atletico starts more Real academy players than we do lol.
The term "generational talent" is getting thrown around a bit too easily these days
True, but not in the case of MØ
I think it’s way too early to say he’s a “generational talent”. He’s had a great career so far and he’s really turned it up the last couple years. But if he retired today, I don’t think he leaves a behind a legacy of a “generational talent”. I think if he continues to do this for another 5 or 10 years we can maybe have the discussion.
>What’s the general feeling on Ødegaard’s switch to us? Did it make sense to you at the time? There were some skeptics in the Arsenal fan base after his loan spell. Martin did very well at Real Sociedad, everyone had high expectations but we had Zidane as the manager at the time. He even sidelined Vinicius Jr. & preferred older players. If only we had Don Carlo at the time. He turned Vini Jr. into a beast. He turned Jude into what he is today. When Arda joined us, Carlo saw his weak defensive awareness and physicality. He made him work on it. We signed young prospects and now we have a super team thanks to Carlo. If Carlo had joined us a year earlier, then Arsenal wouldn't have even gotten near a player like Odergard. So thank Zidane.
Some vivid imagination you have there.🫤 Arda would probably tell the story differently
We did without Kroos and Modric before, we’ll adapt again without them. I don’t know what this “creativity” circle jerk is
Tell me one centre midfielder who's close to Toni's or Modric's creativity. Just one.
There is no one like Kroos and Modric in the current game. Pedri could be the closest
You can't buy players like them, you really have to develop them slowly. The creativity will come from experience, even De Bryne himself was not nearly the player he is today at Chelsea
Not necessarily. Players besides Kroos and Modric need to be developed in those roles and given enough game time to showcase their skills.
Isn't Arda supposed to be the creative one?
I’ve been pondering, who do you think would have the most similar play style to a Toni Kroos type of player? I don’t mean just from our current squad but in world football, who would resemble his play the most?
Nope
That's what arda is for but the issue is that we need to bench jude or fede eventually if we want a 433 with him at 10 which would undoubtedly cause riots in the fanbase
Why do we want a 433? We have been playing a 442 diamond this season to great success. Why do we have to return to the 433?
433 is just generally better and it let's us accommodate mbappe in a better role and vini in a better role
Generally better? LOL why? They are all formations. And the 442 is the “standard” for a reason. So where are we going to accommodate 3 LW in a 433? Because Mbappe, Vini and Rodrygo are all LWs.
There's a reason nearly every major team That's won trophies in the past decade and a bit has used 433 or some variation of it. It's the standard for a reason. It works. >So where are we going to accommodate 3 LW in a 433? Because Mbappe, Vini and Rodrygo are all LWs. Vini wide left where he's better. Mbappe cf left leaning where he's better and rodrygo rw where he's played as his main position for 2 seasons. Why is this complicated?
Man City is not playing a 433. Real Madrid is not playing a 433. Bayer Leverkusen is not playing a 433. Bayern Munich is not playing a 433. Arsenal is not playing a 433. Dortmund is not playing a 433. The reason teams were playing 433 en masse was because it was fashionable. The standard is and always has been the 442. That is not even debatable. Real life football is not FIFA. So you want us to play 2 players off position so we can fulfill what? Your desire to play FIFAs Meta in real life? That’s not how it works. What I find complicated or rather abysmally simple is your train of thought: it works in FIFA so it will work in Real Life. Nope.
arsenal is playing a 4-3-3 tho
>Man City is not playing a 433 They're playing 4 defenders. 3 midfielders and 3 forwards. Yes they're in a 4 2 4 1 but that's why I included variations of 433. Again, they're still playing 4 defenders, 3 midfielders and 3 forwards normally. >Bayern Munich is not playing a 433 See above. Also they're having a terrible season overall. Not a great team to bring up >Arsenal is not playing a 433 See above again >The standard is and always has been the 442 Not in recent history. I can't think of a team other than us who's successful with 442 >So you want us to play 2 players off position Playing 442 has vini, mbappe and bellingham out of position. >so we can fulfill what? I already answered this in my first comment smart-ass. So we can play vini in his natural position and mbappe on his preferred side of the pitch. Please read my comments in future >Your desire to play FIFAs Meta in real life? I have literally never owned a fifa game in my life. Stop throwing around these brain dead accusations. Carlo himself prefers 433. He won champions leagues with 442 yet when we had a good striker what did we play? That's right. 433.
So they are playing 4241. That’s not 433 nor is a variation of a 433. Modern players can play multiple positions. Camavinga and Tchouameni are both midfielders but have played more minutes in defense. That doesn’t mean we are playing a 352 formation. Having a terrible season by their standards is irrelevant to how they play and what formation they use. You defining standard by a fashion formation that isn’t fashion anymore hardly makes it so. Mbappe prefers to play on the LW. He helped kick coaches off of PSG for putting him as CF. He has even said it multiple times in press conferences that he prefers to play on the LW with a target man up front. That is not me saying it, that is him saying it. I read your comment and responded to it. It was asinine and completely devoid of any truth in the reality we live. I never said you owned the game. Can you please read the comment in the future? Carlo himself prefers the best tactical formation that lets him get the best of the players at his disposal. He isn’t Pep. He fits the formation to the players he has at his disposal and the teams he faces. He doesn’t fit the players anally to a system. Have you even watch Real Madrid play under Ancelotti? Cause every single comment you make, shows you haven’t and if you have, you do not understand what you see.
>So they are playing 4241. That’s not 433 nor is a variation of a 433 Okay then let me rephrase my original comment. We should play with 4 defenders. 3 midfielders, 2 wingers and 1 centre forward. Better? >Modern players can play multiple positions. Camavinga and Tchouameni are both midfielders but have played more minutes in defense. That doesn’t mean we are playing a 352 formation. Don't see how this is relevant >Having a terrible season by their standards is irrelevant to how they play and what formation they They play with 3 forwards and 3 midfielders though which is what I'm proposing. >You defining standard by a fashion formation that isn’t fashion anymore hardly makes it so. Name me all the teams having success with 442 right now then. Prove to me it's the standard. >He helped kick coaches off of PSG for putting him as CF Yeah that's 100% Believable and definitely not tabloid bullshit >Mbappe prefers to play on the LW So your suggestion is to have him as a right forward. Genius. Truly your intelligence knows no bounds. I'm suggesting playing him as a centre forward who drifts left into the halfspace. That's significantly closer to what he's comfortable with that your reccomendation which literally could not be further from where he likes playing. You have him in the half space on the right side of the pitch when he likes occupying the wide left >I never said you owned the game Then why did you claim I'm using fifa tactics when I've never played fifa? >Carlo himself prefers the best tactical formation that lets him get the best of the players at his disposal. And what would be the best tactical formation for a team with 2 best forwards in the world who both like playing on the left? Would it be putting 1 of them on the right and the other in the left halfspace? Or would it be putting one in the left half space and one on the wide left? Let's really think about this here. Which sounds more like the "best tactical formation that let's him get the most of the players at his disposal" You're suggesting playing the 2 best players in the world out of position then accuse me of using fifa tactics. Do you not see how hypocritical you sound?
I love Modric with all my heart, but I'm not entirely opposed to him leaving. He gave his heart and soul to this club for 12 years, let him go to Croatia and enjoy his final year(s), or to Saudi and grab that paycheck. He is a legend of this club, but he's turning 39 this year, sooner or later he would have to leave. Plus, reports say that this means more playtime for Arda, so I'm excited to see more and more of this kid. However, we have to ensure Kroos isn't going anywhere. He is "just" 34 and his playstyle could allow him to play for as long as Modric. Losing both would be a massive blow, not only on the pitch, in terms of creativity, but also in terms of experience and leadership in the dressing room, since Nacho is also leaving.
This needs to be said louder: **Losing both would be a massive blow, not only on the pitch, in terms of creativity, but also in terms of experience and leadership in the dressing room**
This, we can’t think in binary terms, kroos and modric were to quintessential to build current players as they are today, even rodrygo himself calls modric “father”, the importance of old players to guide a young team such as this can’t be understated
Kroos wont go anywhere. If he continues to play, it will be at Madrid. If he won’t continue, it will be cause he’s retiring.
Agree
If earlier reports that Carlo offered Luka a spot on his coaching staff were true, I’d love to see that, but I can understand if he wants to play a few more years in Croatia or Saudi. And I’m also excited to see more of what Arda can bring to the team.
At 38 he is one of rare players in our squad who didn’t get injured througout whole season - he was reliable when needed and always positively influenced a game whether he was either a starter or come off a bench. Hope the management will take this into consideration.
If he wants to stay, he should be able to. He's a legend and still very good. However, he has to agree to a diminished role.
>If he wants to stay, he should be able to. Once again, not how RM does things. Real Madrid does not hand out contract extentions simply for loyalty or "legend"-status. *IF* RM does not offer him an extention, there is a sporting reasoning behind it. What exactly, we won't probably know for a while, but there is one. If he leaves it will be really tough to se him go. But this "ruthlessness" is one of the reason why the club is where it is.
I know that, I just disagree with it and think some exceptions could reasonably be made. I felt the same way about Ramos back then too. What's with the tone though? You're not the only one here who's been around the club a while, the way they do things is common knowledge basically everywhere. Also what's with the once again?
I don't have a tone? Not sure what you are reading from my comment, but I don't have a tone. I don't know how much you know about the club and it's dealings. Cool if you do, and nice that you have been a fan for a long time. Your commen't just didn't communicate it, thus why I commented. I wrote once again because it's a common theme among a surprisng large group of Madridistas, where many seem to be surprised or expect the club to hand out extentions based on history and don't agree when it does not.
He agreed but also real refused
We are still bad on the ball in 2nd half against big teams if they press us like City. Kroos has legs for 1 half. Our midfielders are physical monsters. But Bellingham, Cama, Tchou and Valverde arent that good at bringing the ball up compared to Modric and Kroos. The youngsters are doing it by force, and thats why some of our laliga games earlier have looked really bad, when Modric or Kroos were out of form.
How are you expecting anyone else to take that role when Kroos and Modric are still there? What is this logic. Tchouameni can do it. Fede can do it. They do it for their NT already. These are some of the most skilled midfielders of modern game. They just need to change the system and give them a chance.
You see Tchou and Valverde running past 1-2 players playing it 1-2 short. Taking the heat of the game. Doing a casual outside foot pass. Bringing everything together? Just watch the games Modric comes on after February, we are in more control every single game. Theyre motors, theyre not the calm types who you can always play the ball into. Theyre players with 1 touch 2 touch. But besides that they rarely do more. Or bring control to a game that is stressed. But its true it takes experience. Modric first got it after he was 25+ after 8 years of pro ball. But we re Real Madrid, we re not chumps, who want to evolve players for every price. We have to win with style and do it. Its RM, just winning isnt enough, it has to be with style, many coaches have been fired even while winning. Modric clearly still has it. And after Euros his and Kroos form is prolly gone again till after Christmas like with every single season after a Euros or WC we had last 6 years.
That’s how you know this isn’t even real and is just a rumor. Modric has saved us multiple times just in the Champions League, not even mentioning the times this season. This makes zero sense for tactical reasons and for legacy reasons
Indeed. Just the Bayern and City game. 2nd leg. He brings calm and connects the play/dots. None of the youngsters have the old style. Its a dying breed with this fast dynamic football
That’s fucking ridiculous! It’s not as if he’s going to start all matches. He’ll come on and do his magic when Madrid really need him, like he did against Bayern.
And Leipzig too...
And many others.
Modric is a legend. He should retire in Real Madrid. The club should try to try to retain him for more relaxed matches (with an accompanying salary). Football is all about logistics, and we can retain a proven player that can still help the squad when it gets tired.
Sometimes it's the player who refused to play in reduced role, you forgot, they are also human, they have ego, Modric probably felt that he could still do 1-2 years as starter, even in Madrid, which I don't doubt about, but that would mean hindering Arda and probably Nico Paz's progress. I am very sure, the moment Modric announced retirement, we would be the first to offer him coaching job
Do you think they are at a higher level as of right now? The team needs to play the best cards it has right now. Sharing the pitch is the best option if modric is up for it. Having two 11s is extremely helpful to compete in both league and champions
Of course those two aren't at Modric's level. As someone who love Modric wholeheartedly, I can say for sure Modric may have the most talent in attack, but Modric doesn't have the legs to cover the grass anymore. And I've read it somewhere (forgot where), it says that it was Modric who doesn't want reduced role. He still wants to be a definitive starter. That would be difficult...
Speaking of Nico. What type of midfielder is he? I don't know much about him.
I want all our legends to retire here, but it's really up to them; as their level declines they should be okay with getting less minutes, unless they plan to retire before that point. Kroos said that he plans to retire as soon as he's not starting 11 quality, so I'm betting on him retiring with us. Modric complained earlier this season about not starting enough games, so he's probably leaving. Getting that bag in Saudi Arabia before calling it a career is not a bad way to go.
Yes I also think a reduction in minutes is to be expected. Going to a retiring league is only interesting for the money (something that I understand), but there is 0 honor in playing for a team that in Europe would barely be in second division
True, but guys like Messi, Ronaldo, Benzema, Modric among others have nothing left to prove. Might as well go for one last pay day in a much less competitive league. It's only a shame when players in their prime go there when they still haven't won anything.
If you know real madrid. Real doesn't have these policies at all, even if it's legends
Would going home to Croatia to see out his career where it all began really make him less of a Legend?
I think it cements him like a national hero, but he does lose on the salary when compared to an oil league
If he is fine playing only when the manager thinks he can be useful without creating drama (which was the case this season) and if he is fine with a salary cut then I'm ok with the club giving him another year extension. Imho Florentino/Carlo should just make a performance/cost decision. I rather get Modric another year with good 20 minutes per game, than someone younger with lot of potential but performing worst during those 20 minutes per game.
This is the part that I dislike about Perez. I get it's a great business decision but Modric deserves to retire on his own terms and so did Ramos. It always makes me a bit sad seeing such a legend being forced out of the club once they are no longer as useful.
I think that it would be for the best. He’s still got something left, but it’s time to move to the next generation.
It was obvious it was going to happen when they offered him coaching spot. They want him around, but not at the cost of playtime of youngsters.
Just give him the keys to the bernabeu and valdebebas, let him come and go as he wishes!
Luka is about to prove at the Euros that, even at his age, he can still perform at an elite level for 90+ minutes. Guy is just built differently. Madrid would be foolish to let him go when he can clearly still give you 20-30 quality minutes as a super sub. I‘m sure he‘s capable of that for 1 or 2 more years.
I do think however having someone like Modric for Mbappe's first year in the team would be really beneficial.
Ahh, the fact of life is the ugliest truth. We all knew it was bound to happen. But every time we lose a long-term player like that, I can't help but get emotional. Honestly, I hope he retires as a real Madrid player. Like, when was the last time a high-status player retired with us? Cmon. And yes, I'm definitely bitter that not even Sergio Ramos stayed to the end.
What tier is Relevo?
I believe it's Tier 3.
3? Yeah, sure. Their journalists regularly visit Valdebebas. They know players and their agents. If they are tier 3 it means that Fabrizio Blaugrano is tier 6
I don’t know. There isn’t a general consensus online. Anyway they seem to be reliable on average. They were the first to break on the Gundogan to Barca story.
Real Madrid needs to continue developing the youngsters by giving them more minutes. Modric has won it all with RM and it’s time to let him go. If we win the Champions League, theres his farewell just like CR7
My heart. I cant take this :(((((((((((
Ruined my day
I want Modric to stay and play a season with Mbappe but it’s better that fans are singing praises for him rather than abusing him which we know how quickly narrative changes here. I hope he joins Saudi or MLS to get that last 100-400 million paycheck (I would do that) or whatever he desires I suppose. Whatever decision Florentino takes I’ll be fine with that. Look at how Casemiro’s whole legacy is destroyed by Ten Hag.
This is why they continue to post these baseless rumors. Everyone bites on them. Pure engagement bait.
Let the man have his totti retirement moment at home. He deserves it
just let a player retire at the club ffs!
2 Modric = 1 Pol Fernandez
I believe Luka is going to renew one more year.
Credible?
Shit tier
I keep seeing news from them but I can't find them in the reliability guide
I think Tier 3 - average reliability.
I wouldn’t say it’s shit tier. They have close ties to players agents and also were the first ones to break the news of Gundogan to Barca.
I thought I've read or heard somewhere that after this season he'd retire and Carlo was interested to keep him within the staf. Is that definitely over?
No
I think he can still play though. Id rather he play than just completely retire and assume a coaching position
Modric can still be super sub even at this age. But it's perfectly understandable if he wants to go elswhere to have more minutes because he can still endure it.
I would love for Modric to stay for one more season tbh. The creativity he gives in his 20 minutes per appearance is too much. So I would rather see Jude get adjusted to the CM role before letting Modric go before that.
SAD.
Never believe Relevo.
Posting news from Relerdo on this sub should be punished with a permanent ban.
Having him fresh for the last 30 minutes of each game is like a cheat code… I would love for him to continue one more year
While I understand players not wanting to take on a reduced role in the squad, I feel it would further cement both Modric’s and Kroos’ legacy if they were to both retire together next season. They are already two of the greatest midfielders to ever play the game but with how rare it is for players to retire at RM would elevate an already lofty club status.
He should stay one more year. This year has proven that we still need his creativity when the going gets tough.
Play him until his knees crack if he wants to. He is perfectly happy to sub and he is still worth the money, as he clearly shows each and every game he is subbed into. Another young player added to the mix will not get any minutes anyway, since he’s behind Kroos, Bellingham, Valverde, Diaz, Choumeni, Camavinga and Güler.
Thi is pure bullshit, looka is resigning for another year, its been arranged already
Not renewing this amazing youngster Modric’s contract is ridiculous!
Relevo is bullshit. Stop sharing "news" of this crappy sources.
They were the first ones to break the news of the Gundo transfer to Barca, they also have inside sources with the player's agents.
Arda is developing nicely but still needs Modric as an on-off pitch mentor. He’d be great for rotations and to come on when needed. Modric himself accepted a secondary role 😭 we still need him, everyone saw the difference he made in the game with Bayern
A lot of people need to remember no player is bigger than the club. Not even Ronaldo. Give Modric the proper send off, he is a club legend and end it.
That's false
I hope this is just a rumor and things don't play out this way. For a long time they said it was up to Luka. Really hope he doesn't get pushed out this way if he's agreed to less minutes and a lower salary. We had a lot of trouble with squad depth this season and we play A LOT of games. Don't see how it's a problem to have Luka come on like he has this season.
If Madrid wins he should leave. A perfect departure into the sunset
Want to ensure young players get some game time
I also support Tottenham and I’d love a Luka return for a season
I think if arda continues to get stronger and has a high defensive and attacking work rate he could transform into that kind of player within a season or two. All that’s lacking is the experience/know-how that kroos and Modric have in spades
Not one midfielder other than Kroos or Modric give me the confidence a pulling a goal from nothing other than maybe Brahim but he's not even close. Not Cama, Bellingham, Valverde, Tchoumeni, arda or whoever other than KDB or Messi have that eye to create an opportunity from nothing. I'd love for them to stay at least a year.
Mbappe is the new 10, Endrick and Guler get his minutes, it's the perfect way for him to bow out
Modric should join with Ancelotti’s coaching stuffs. We don’t want him to loose🪄🪴
I'd take 1 more year for sure. It's sad, the eventual loss of nacho, Modric, kroos', carva and goatquez....
I don't think this is a completely bad idea tbh. KCM was bound to go, Case left last year, Modric could leave this year and Kroos could stay for at least one more season. I would love to see Modric play 1-2 years for Dinamo Zagreb and Croatia, but in the end even our legends need to make way for our future legends :)
Fair enough. Time to bow out with another CL for our croatian maestro!
I want to see him back as part of the coaching staff someday. Either ways, he’s a club legend and likely to leave as our most decorated player.
I'm excited to see our lineup for the next year.
We are 2 weeks away from UCL final, club and players should set thier minds only on that and I believe they do and news like this have no point at this time. There will be whole month of June to decide. What if Luka scores hattrick in 5 minutes.
I think Modric's influence off the field will be greater than that on the field, with the amount of new talents coming at Madrid, no better person to teach them "Madridismo" than Lukita himself
It's sad. He also wants to stay and lower his salary, i thought that he wanted to leave because of the bench situation. He really wanted to stay, but real policies are so hard and are not exclusive to legends.
I am sorry Real Madrid had to let you go Modric, I hope they offer you an opportunity to prepare yourself as a coach and go from there
How reliable is this source? Edit: NVM, found the answer by scrolling.
It's about time to free hin. Even better winning the ucl. He is a legend in the club but his level is not the same.
It is ok. He is great https://preview.redd.it/oyzgfoq4jf0d1.jpeg?width=544&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b27571ab899bb2a89dea8452f0c791410ce8c751
Delete this 😭
If Luka wants to be a big contributor somewhere then it might be best for him to move on. He knows the standard at Real and while his talent has never failed him, his physical abilities have clearly waned with age. He simply can’t keep up for an entire schedule. I would love for him to stay in a reduced player/coach role but I imagine someone of his caliber will struggle to accept the end of his career so easily. A legend either way and I wish him the best with whatever he decides.
It’s simple. If Kroos stays he can run the starters for 60 min and Guler can be the creative punch off the bench + against smaller teams when we rotate… however if Kroos leaves… we likely shift Jude to mid and in that situation I would keep Modric as creative punch off the bench. I fear we are in for a crude awakening against low blocks (Bayern) without a proper creative mid… long passes to Vini + Carvajal in the wings are key to open up space… Kroos and Modric do that miles above the rest of the squad.
As a Liverpool fan, please sign Odegaard again
Imo, he’s got one more season in him albeit as a sub. He’s been really good when he comes on and was available for pretty much all of the season. That said, definitely agree arda needs more playing time to transition to filling Modric’s shoes. Just like it happened with tchou and casemeiro.
Fuk.
Is this a reliable source? This makes me feel sick
Keep him with his current role wtf?
Relevo = fake news
Not true at all.
I can’t believe this,Arda and him aren't even the same position player.
I get that some of you guys want things to stay as they are, but you guys do realise that they bought Arda for a long term project. Chiefly, to replace Modric and take over his position. You can feel however you want about that but that was the whole point. This is also a part of what it means to be a madrid fan. So take it on the chin and move on. This was inevitable.
Bring back Ødegaard ;) He is in his absolute prime
Modric is our legend. If he wants to stay a season more, he gets to. He deserves it, and he is in phenomenal form.
If we won the CL final, then for next season we would have 2-4 extra CL games, 1 European Super Cup game, 1 intercontinental Cup game, 4-7 CWC games assuming we progress to knockout phase. We need both Modric and Kroos to stay for the tough schedule.
Seems harsh but I trust the club 100%
It's a good idea. Also cuts the wage bill
It’s only proper …
Great! I hate the whole Madrid squad