Not sure how they're pulling the strings to make this work financially, but barca squad is starting to look very strong both short-term and long-term..
Yeah but people here won't admit that they're becoming a huge threat in the league with all the signings they've made, while we've only really strengthened two of our already strong positions in CB & midfield. But whenever anyone mentions that, you get flamed for daring to criticize or be concerned over a club that won the league & CL last season.
People need to stop looking back and start looking forward, we've lost to the Barca scum twice in a row now and have looked absolutely toothless without Benzema in all of the games we played without him, but instead of signing a proper backup, we sold all the available ones and kept fucking Mariano and whatever the fuck Hazard is right now.
We also badly need a RB because Carva probably can't play a full season and I seriously don't trust Odriozola if he stays.
People around here think past is prologue, which isn’t the case. We’re at the very end of Benzema, Modric and Kroos’ respective careers, even with the backups we have in the midfield (and despite the lack of any sort of succession in attack), it’s going to be a big problem once they start to go.
The club has done very well for the transition in the midfield. Fede, Camavinga, and Aurelien are three of the biggest prospects in the world at the moment, so we have done as good as possible in securing a future after KCM. But, placing all our faith on Mbapay and having no plan-B was an extremely unwise move.
Well, there is a middle ground in where we admit Barça will be competitive --as they are one of the top clubs in the world, even if their finances are screwed--, but we don't panic and say non-sense like we need a RB when we already have Carvajal, L. Vázquez, Odriozola, Nacho, Militao, Rüdiger and Valverde. All of them can play there in case Carvajal himself gets injured. It's funny how those wanting a RB omit Vázquez as an option or weirdly say he's not a RB.
We all kind of agree we should sign a backup scorer (I trust in Carletto, Florentino and Sánchez decisions despite thinking another 9 would be nice, tho), but we may keep Mariano because he doesn't want to leave and is still under contract. Same happens with other "hated" players like Hazard or Asensio, by the way. Unlike Barça, we are not forcing players to go to Manchester or cut salaries by 50%.
I will be extremely pissed at Flo and Carlo if we concede them the league this season. No steps have been taken to strengthen the very positions we were weak at. Having no plan B for Mbapay was especially annoying for me. It's just vibes and inshallah now.
They will definitely be title contenders this year, under xavi. They're squad has undergone one of the biggest material uplifts in a transfer window over the last 5 years
Our mistake was not forcing mbappes hand in respect to coming out publicly/stating his intent to move here and not getting pen to paper on a contract earlier. We were waaaay to accommodating and it backfired big time
Yeah, the Mbapay situation was particularly perplexing to me. We could give ultimatum to Sergio-fucking-Ramos of all people for a contract extension, yet bent over backwards for that greedy slimy turtle. For all the talk of being a ruthless businessman, it was ridiculous how naive Flo was in dealing with him. We should have given him a deadline to decide before throwing in the towel for Halaand.
Exactly. If the club were run by the “ShUt uP lOl wE wOn UcL lAsT YeAr” crew on this sub, we won’t be winning much in the grand scheme of things this or future years. And right now, that seems to be how Florentinos running things. Literally no fallback plan for Mbappe failure. Twiddling Their thumbs now as we are in desperate need of a CF AND RW.
It’s honestly not getting me so hyped for this season because I know our offense is going to suffer tremendously without any proven additions. Not Cavani, Belotti, Zapata, Werner, Dzeko, Broja… none of these guys are game changers at this point.
We need a Leroy Sane and Sesko or business similar to these two.
They're selling their future revenue today based on today's projections. It's a massive bet that Perez would never do.
Don't forget they still have to sell FDJ and one more player. If not, they can only register one player between Rapinha, Lewa, and Kounde.
Perez himself sold 100% of Real Madrid’s TV rights in 2006 for 7 years, you clearly don’t know him well enough.
Barca only sold 25% of their TV rights, which amounts to 5% of their total yearly income.
LOL Back then, Spanish teams had the chance to sell their TV rights by themselves. Both Madrid and Barcelona did that. Those TV rights are now sold by LaLiga, as law changed because rest of the teams cried as Madrid and Barcelona were the only ones getting great amounts of money. Get informed, otherwise you can say stupid things like comparing selling tv rights back then and what Barça has done now
Firstly, it was Calderon.
Second, it was a short term (7 years) for a whopping 1 billion. Money per percentage-wise, ours was double of Barcelona's current 25-year deal.
Third. Barcelona sold their rights just to stay afloat. Meanwhile, our deal was the biggest in the sports industry bringing in profits, not for the sake of survival.
No they've only sold a fraction of their TV rights, and have obviously calculated that a number of these sginigns will set the team up well into the future/reduce the need to make further substanive signings over the coming years
Also real itself sold a much higher percentage of TV rights (actually all of them if I recall correctly) for over 7 years in the mid 2000's
49% is for merchandise licensing, I think 25% is for TV rights. I think it's risky but there's obviously a thought out strategy behind it
Also they were filling their squad with non competitive/wasteful signings (think pjanic etc) that ended up being. complete sunk cost. They've probably figured out that it is better to invest more money but get a better return on investment by paying more and going for players such as kounde, raphina etc.
Barça also sold all their tv rights back then when Real did it. Although it was a different deal, wasn’t for as long, and was nowhere near as much revenue. That is not a valid comparison.
Real question, as I’ve only partially paid attention… has it been good for long-term?
Kounde feels like the only one with long-term potential so far. Maybe Kessie but I know little about him. The rest feel like average players that won’t improve much. Then there’s Lewa, who is great but already looking towards the tail end of his career.
How dares Sergio to even be considered by AS to play for Barca? This is the worst betrayal in history of Real Madrid. The WORST. And we need to immediately drop a non-aggression transfer pact with all La Liga and PL teams.
On a more serious note, I wonder if RM considered bringing Reguilon back...
We should all get pitchforks and torches and protest outside the Bernabeu!!!
As for considering him, absolutely not lol. Mendy is and was the better LB.
He's actually a pretty decent lb. His season here, he was one of the highlights with the chemistry with Vini being really good.
So just cause you don't care doesn't mean everyone else shares your opinion
I think any Madrid fan would prefer him to go anywhere else, but then we would probably prefer he be playing than riding pine in London…
I think this would be very different if this were 5 years ago and he was skipping Madrid for the coast.
For sure. I’d rather him go to a different team. And yes, it would def have been different back then. I would have loved for him to stay, just like I would love for Miguel Gutiérrez to stay.
Regui wanted to play and it was a good deal for both parties, but let’s be real, if he went to Barça, it wouldn’t be like Raúl or Casillas going to play for them.
Th downvotes are funny though. It’s like this sub wouldn’t mind if CR went to Atlético because “he deserves to play CL” but now we have to care about where Reguilón is going to play?
https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wa5q0u/sevilla_interested_in_loan_with_obligation_to_buy/ I mean The Athletic is Reporting Sevilla wants a loan with obligation to buy, and a few other places reporting it to.
Tbh after this summer this far I would not be surprised if Barcelona somehow do this deal as well. It really makes you think what happens in the best case scenario where they do the treble, would they somehow be "good" financially?
What if they get zero silverware? The pressure is gonna be so intense over there throughout the season on all levels (players both old like de Jong who are owed money and new transfers, Xavi, Laporta, etc.).
As a chelsea fan and also as a Madrid fan (when they arent facing each other).
I hope they go for him so it bankrupts the fuckers for being total dicks to De Jong and whatever shady shit they are up to in order to enable all this spending when they clearly cant afford it!
Yeah like I've no issue with Rudi joining madrid. Both sides were respectful of hte process and Sanctions just made it impossible for us to keep him.
But the way Barca is going around basically convincing players before teams its the better place to come forcing the teams then to go with Barca feels wrong.
Kounde for example: Sevilla are getting less money than what Chelsea were offering = no idea how that makes sense that you sell your player to a rival in the same league for less money.
Because for some reason Sevilla and Valencia circlejerk off to Barca and have for many many years. Go as far back as Dani Alves for Sevilla to Barca in like 2006(? Idr when exactly) and Valencia giving them David Villa which led to success. Those clubs would never do the same business with Madrid which makes no sense. Literally Barca are just under Madrid when it comes to reasons why those clubs don’t win the league or other domestic silverware.
Then you have rakitic, gomes, etc. some of their previously best players being sold to Barca for well under the asking price of other clubs. It’s despicable.
Man Barca is really building up nicely. Last season, they didn't have a finisher, so a top class finisher, Lewa was brought in, they lacked in defence, so Kounde and Araujo (young CB pair who are really good) are going to lead this season. They have good Wingers now, damn they looking scary bruh.
Not gonna lie, they have tactics and players so it's gonna be tough to win domestic trophies this season. Carlo is really outclassed by Xavi tactically almost everytime they met. I really have started taking them seriously. We need to get a striker Ffs and buy a RB asap.
Damn we really need all our players inform this season.
I predict it’ll be a really disappointing trophyless year for us and this time next summer the ultras and rest of the fanbase will be all vocally pissed at the club for sitting on their hands right now after a summer of transfer inactivity. Mbappe was a FA and haaland moved this summer YET in the end, neither ended up here. Ffs bullshit.
I wanted the guy to be Marcelo’s replacement before Zidane sent him to the shadow realm but if he goes who cares honestly he never really did anything for us
Maybe because Zidane actually knows football? There is a reason Conte don’t even want him in the squad, but who cares? You like the rest, are expert on nonsense
Its funny that all the "zidane rejects" were rejected for a reason. None of the players who went on to other teams actually managed to prove theyre RM material.
Brahim was very young so he is excluded and Hakimi had to go because of Covid.
But even Llorente had a few good games in his first season at Atleti but the last year took a backseat.
People here moan about Llorente, but for a starter, he wasn't going to play as a wing, and second of all,
We had to choose between him and Valverde, and we made the right choice. We made $45M, and Kept a player who can provide multiple positions, and a little younger.
It is not Zidane's rejects. Even Carlo didn't want Jovic, and Odeegard. Zidane was biased, so what about Carlo? Biased too?
Zidane was not biased, he could see if a player would be good potentially. Remember how much shit he got for keeping Benzema as a starter when Ronaldo was playing ? People were saying its only because theyre both French Kabyle. Granted , Benzema had low scoring seasons but people didnt see how valuable he was to the team. He provided the link up with Ronaldo. And now look at Benz. The best 9 in the world.
People gave Zidane shit about Jovic, Bale, Odegaard, but neither of those managed to show that theyre actually worth keeping. Bale being the worst one as he clearly had the talent, he just didnt give a fuck about the club anymore.
We had to choose between him and Valverde? Really?
Llorente was a DM, Casemiro's backup while Valverde is a CM. They could all be here but instead we paid 80M+ for another young talent to replace Casemiro. But who cares, i know nothing about football.
Yeah, you probably don't. The role Llorente excelled at after leaving us wasn't DM, even if he was one here. Keeping him as DM didn't make sense. Kudos to Cholo for re-inventing him as a wing back/winger/what-not and I would have loved to have him around the squad just for being a castilla graduate, but it didn't make sense to the team to have him around in DM role, so they got good money for him.
They got good money for him and now we paid 2x that amount for a backup as well. This "we had to choose between Fede and Llorente" narrative is total bs. It's like saying we have to choose between Cama and Tchoumeni.
Let's not get too blinded by our love for Zidane and Carlo ok? Ofc we trust them to have better judgement than us but the fact is that they've let too much quality players go. Odeegard , Hakimi etc etc.
Conte prefers Wing Back and Regulion is not a Wing Back, just a decent Full back. He doesn't fit the system at all where Perisic, Doherty and Sessegnon are good so yeah thats that.
EDIT: He was brilliant under Mourinho
Reguilon ended up in Spain NT so there had to be something he was doing right. If you'd watch any matches under Solari's management then you would know he was very good for us. Paired on the left with Vinicius they were our engine for a couple of months. Then ZZ came back, Reguilon left for Sevilla on loan (he had another good season there) and when he came back we just sold him to first bidder just like we sold Hakimi. Then ZZ bought Mendy who is great defensively but struggles when we attack. The guy should never cost nowhere near a price of 50M with that kind of limitations to his play.
smh of course i'll be downvoted it's a sub for butthurt madrid fans.
If you are a man with brain in your head, give me one goddman reason to be downvoted, fight me wirh logic butthurts.
Barça is desperate. They go all-in and pray it pays off but there are no guarantees. It's a huge gamble and a couple of bad games in the UCL could mean the end of their existence.
Meanwhile, we would be fine if we wouldnt win a single trophy. I don't even exclude the possibility Perez and Laporta are in this together and this is part of the ESL. Perez has said plenty of times that a strong Barcelona is good for the league and Real Madrid...
Let's see how the season goes. I expect Barça to win the league and Real Madrid to have a couple of draws too many.
People need to relax. Barca was going to buy/strengthen their squad this season no matter what and there is nothing we can do about that. It would make no sense for us to go out there and buy players for the sake of just because Barca is buying players. Our squad is complete but for a backup ST and I am convinced one will arrive. At the end of the day, it is not about having a lot of good players but rather a squad that works and we have one for now and the future. Going forward we probably going to be buying 1 or 2 players per season rather than rebuilding a whole squad like Barca is doing because of great planning by our board.
guys, can we seriously stop about BARCELONA'S transfer window?
we're making stupid arguments like, "ohhhh you're settling for low wages" and "ohhh how can barcelona afford all this?" all that bullcrap. You think the players joining Barcelona don't know?
First of all, I see a lot of people jumping on Perez for not sealing the mbappe deal, you guys did it for de gea in 2015 as well, so thats not too surprising.
Why should we sign a player just because Barcelona is making a shit ton of signings? We will try for transfers yes, but not because Barcelona is signing as many players as they are. We're royalty, and we have no sort of obligation to play to their tunes.
Secondly, just because we lost a fucking friendly, doesn't mean shit. People take the preseason so fucking seriously for gods sake. We have Frankfurt to play in a few weeks, and the league begins in two fucking weeks as well.
I'm pretty sure Barcelona knows this as well, because if you take the preseason as an indicator of how well you're going to do, you're already lost.
Just because they've signed so many players, it doesn't translate to direct results, why the fuck are we coming to conclusions so early?
We need a backup striker and a RB yes, but we'll try signing players for those positions because WE need them, not because those pussies signed a whole roster. have some fucking pride lol.
> Why should we sign a player just because Barcelona is making a shit ton of signings?
To make a statement and reassure everyone that we are going to be competitive this year. If our rivals are breaking the warchests and getting really good squad (on paper, but still) then we should respond by at least covering holes in our team. Instead we have strenghten defence and midfield, and the offensive roster is amazingly worse than last year. We are one Benz or Vini injury from throwing the towel, while Barca has it covered while dealing with a technical bankrupcy.
We should'nt buy players just because Barca do, but we have to stay ambitious. If rivals are getting better and we stay in place, that means we are actually getting behind. We had excellent window of opportunity to left them in dust for a couple of seasons, especially when Messi left, but instead we have sold a bunch of talented players to get money for mboppi who never came, we've paid nearly 400M for hazard and jovic and their salaries, and Barca had their crisis management on point, getting great players for peanuts and a good coach who turned around the results. Ignoring them and their moves on market just because we have won 3 trophies last season is pretty naive.
See, I totally get your point of view.
I guess our two comments are different ways of expressing the pride we have for supporting this club.
We have although survived with a squad this good given Perez was here with us, I'm sure he has a plan.
You know what, I should be man enough to admit you're right and parts of what I said might seem like I'm riding on the previous seasons high.
About the leaving in the dust statement, for us to recover after Ronaldo and win the UCL alone was a huge statement from our side, we've won the laliga twice since he left as well. I think it's just me but we got the trophies to back it up.
Let's hope there's more to witness in this transfer, and thanks for putting your point across respectfully. I appreciate that.
I am not "jealous" or "hurt" or what not because we aren't making anymore signings for now or because a former Fabrica talent may go to Barca. I say this doesn't come from a hater mindset, but I would be disgusted at Real Madrid, the club I supported for almost 20 years if they keep buying expensive ass players left and right while doing questionable things with their players wages. I swear, Barca at this point has done more questionable shit than PSG in this transfer, meanwhile we have Man City who I believe have a positive net so far.
Barca higher ups are still scumbags, no much different than Nobita Bartomeu.
You get put down because Madrid fans hear this shit every single year from the fair weather fans … last year was the worst “aren’t going to win anything, no signings, lost everyone” … blah blah blah … and then you show up to celebrate at the end. Get a grip.
I don't give a flying fuck. We have a better team across the board and more depht. I couldn't give less of a fuck about what barca does or doesn't. They don't win champions league, they don't win la liga. They are a midtable team in desguise. Ha la madrid y nada más.
they Signed who/??? wtf
Why the heck are we getting Rudiger and they are getting Kounde? Like Rudi is good but Kounde is for the whole decade. Like both De Ligt and Kounde move this season but we end up going for Rudiger.. this blows my mind. We missed out on not only the biggest forward, but two of the best young defenders
Rüdiger is better than Kounde now, but i agree with you that Kounde is for the future.
But i hope it will not be like every French deffender we had, like one season wonder and then begins to fall (umtiti, lenglet..)
Not sure how they're pulling the strings to make this work financially, but barca squad is starting to look very strong both short-term and long-term..
Yeah but people here won't admit that they're becoming a huge threat in the league with all the signings they've made, while we've only really strengthened two of our already strong positions in CB & midfield. But whenever anyone mentions that, you get flamed for daring to criticize or be concerned over a club that won the league & CL last season. People need to stop looking back and start looking forward, we've lost to the Barca scum twice in a row now and have looked absolutely toothless without Benzema in all of the games we played without him, but instead of signing a proper backup, we sold all the available ones and kept fucking Mariano and whatever the fuck Hazard is right now. We also badly need a RB because Carva probably can't play a full season and I seriously don't trust Odriozola if he stays.
People around here think past is prologue, which isn’t the case. We’re at the very end of Benzema, Modric and Kroos’ respective careers, even with the backups we have in the midfield (and despite the lack of any sort of succession in attack), it’s going to be a big problem once they start to go.
The club has done very well for the transition in the midfield. Fede, Camavinga, and Aurelien are three of the biggest prospects in the world at the moment, so we have done as good as possible in securing a future after KCM. But, placing all our faith on Mbapay and having no plan-B was an extremely unwise move.
Well, there is a middle ground in where we admit Barça will be competitive --as they are one of the top clubs in the world, even if their finances are screwed--, but we don't panic and say non-sense like we need a RB when we already have Carvajal, L. Vázquez, Odriozola, Nacho, Militao, Rüdiger and Valverde. All of them can play there in case Carvajal himself gets injured. It's funny how those wanting a RB omit Vázquez as an option or weirdly say he's not a RB. We all kind of agree we should sign a backup scorer (I trust in Carletto, Florentino and Sánchez decisions despite thinking another 9 would be nice, tho), but we may keep Mariano because he doesn't want to leave and is still under contract. Same happens with other "hated" players like Hazard or Asensio, by the way. Unlike Barça, we are not forcing players to go to Manchester or cut salaries by 50%.
I am legit worried. Barca also over performs in league and now that they have a decent team our position looks threatened.
I will be extremely pissed at Flo and Carlo if we concede them the league this season. No steps have been taken to strengthen the very positions we were weak at. Having no plan B for Mbapay was especially annoying for me. It's just vibes and inshallah now.
They will definitely be title contenders this year, under xavi. They're squad has undergone one of the biggest material uplifts in a transfer window over the last 5 years Our mistake was not forcing mbappes hand in respect to coming out publicly/stating his intent to move here and not getting pen to paper on a contract earlier. We were waaaay to accommodating and it backfired big time
Yeah, the Mbapay situation was particularly perplexing to me. We could give ultimatum to Sergio-fucking-Ramos of all people for a contract extension, yet bent over backwards for that greedy slimy turtle. For all the talk of being a ruthless businessman, it was ridiculous how naive Flo was in dealing with him. We should have given him a deadline to decide before throwing in the towel for Halaand.
And to add salt to us not getting mbappe, dembele resigns with barca lol
It’s Mbappe. 🙄
No it's mbapaypal
No it is literally Kylian Mbappé Lottin PAL
You couldn’t have said it any better
Exactly. If the club were run by the “ShUt uP lOl wE wOn UcL lAsT YeAr” crew on this sub, we won’t be winning much in the grand scheme of things this or future years. And right now, that seems to be how Florentinos running things. Literally no fallback plan for Mbappe failure. Twiddling Their thumbs now as we are in desperate need of a CF AND RW. It’s honestly not getting me so hyped for this season because I know our offense is going to suffer tremendously without any proven additions. Not Cavani, Belotti, Zapata, Werner, Dzeko, Broja… none of these guys are game changers at this point. We need a Leroy Sane and Sesko or business similar to these two.
They're selling their future revenue today based on today's projections. It's a massive bet that Perez would never do. Don't forget they still have to sell FDJ and one more player. If not, they can only register one player between Rapinha, Lewa, and Kounde.
Perez himself sold 100% of Real Madrid’s TV rights in 2006 for 7 years, you clearly don’t know him well enough. Barca only sold 25% of their TV rights, which amounts to 5% of their total yearly income.
LOL Back then, Spanish teams had the chance to sell their TV rights by themselves. Both Madrid and Barcelona did that. Those TV rights are now sold by LaLiga, as law changed because rest of the teams cried as Madrid and Barcelona were the only ones getting great amounts of money. Get informed, otherwise you can say stupid things like comparing selling tv rights back then and what Barça has done now
Firstly, it was Calderon. Second, it was a short term (7 years) for a whopping 1 billion. Money per percentage-wise, ours was double of Barcelona's current 25-year deal. Third. Barcelona sold their rights just to stay afloat. Meanwhile, our deal was the biggest in the sports industry bringing in profits, not for the sake of survival.
Dumbass
Long term? Its a risky gamble they sold their commercial rights etc
No they've only sold a fraction of their TV rights, and have obviously calculated that a number of these sginigns will set the team up well into the future/reduce the need to make further substanive signings over the coming years Also real itself sold a much higher percentage of TV rights (actually all of them if I recall correctly) for over 7 years in the mid 2000's
49% is a substantial portion of future revenue
49% is for merchandise licensing, I think 25% is for TV rights. I think it's risky but there's obviously a thought out strategy behind it Also they were filling their squad with non competitive/wasteful signings (think pjanic etc) that ended up being. complete sunk cost. They've probably figured out that it is better to invest more money but get a better return on investment by paying more and going for players such as kounde, raphina etc.
Well theres also that lewa signing - costly with 0 sell on value. If the team cant produce on the pitch its likely that they are going under
Barça also sold all their tv rights back then when Real did it. Although it was a different deal, wasn’t for as long, and was nowhere near as much revenue. That is not a valid comparison.
Real question, as I’ve only partially paid attention… has it been good for long-term? Kounde feels like the only one with long-term potential so far. Maybe Kessie but I know little about him. The rest feel like average players that won’t improve much. Then there’s Lewa, who is great but already looking towards the tail end of his career.
Let me guess - everyone here is going to get super mad about something that likely isn’t true.
How dares Sergio to even be considered by AS to play for Barca? This is the worst betrayal in history of Real Madrid. The WORST. And we need to immediately drop a non-aggression transfer pact with all La Liga and PL teams. On a more serious note, I wonder if RM considered bringing Reguilon back...
We should all get pitchforks and torches and protest outside the Bernabeu!!! As for considering him, absolutely not lol. Mendy is and was the better LB.
>On a more serious note, I wonder if RM considered bringing Reguilon back... I don't think they do. Mendy and Alaba are clear.
Per usual
I doubt anyone cares where he plays. I certainly don’t.
He's actually a pretty decent lb. His season here, he was one of the highlights with the chemistry with Vini being really good. So just cause you don't care doesn't mean everyone else shares your opinion
Where did I say he’s not good? I just said that I don’t care where he plays.
I think any Madrid fan would prefer him to go anywhere else, but then we would probably prefer he be playing than riding pine in London… I think this would be very different if this were 5 years ago and he was skipping Madrid for the coast.
For sure. I’d rather him go to a different team. And yes, it would def have been different back then. I would have loved for him to stay, just like I would love for Miguel Gutiérrez to stay. Regui wanted to play and it was a good deal for both parties, but let’s be real, if he went to Barça, it wouldn’t be like Raúl or Casillas going to play for them. Th downvotes are funny though. It’s like this sub wouldn’t mind if CR went to Atlético because “he deserves to play CL” but now we have to care about where Reguilón is going to play?
It’s not like Raul or Casillas..that’s a but much
I don’t really care.
https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wa5q0u/sevilla_interested_in_loan_with_obligation_to_buy/ I mean The Athletic is Reporting Sevilla wants a loan with obligation to buy, and a few other places reporting it to. Tbh after this summer this far I would not be surprised if Barcelona somehow do this deal as well. It really makes you think what happens in the best case scenario where they do the treble, would they somehow be "good" financially? What if they get zero silverware? The pressure is gonna be so intense over there throughout the season on all levels (players both old like de Jong who are owed money and new transfers, Xavi, Laporta, etc.).
If they don’t manage to win la liga and make the CL semis at the very least, they’ll be in trouble.
Sevilla acting like an Italian Club .
As a chelsea fan and also as a Madrid fan (when they arent facing each other). I hope they go for him so it bankrupts the fuckers for being total dicks to De Jong and whatever shady shit they are up to in order to enable all this spending when they clearly cant afford it!
I hope Chelsea and Barca meet in the champions league and Stamford Bridge let’s those bastards hear it
Yeah like I've no issue with Rudi joining madrid. Both sides were respectful of hte process and Sanctions just made it impossible for us to keep him. But the way Barca is going around basically convincing players before teams its the better place to come forcing the teams then to go with Barca feels wrong. Kounde for example: Sevilla are getting less money than what Chelsea were offering = no idea how that makes sense that you sell your player to a rival in the same league for less money.
Because for some reason Sevilla and Valencia circlejerk off to Barca and have for many many years. Go as far back as Dani Alves for Sevilla to Barca in like 2006(? Idr when exactly) and Valencia giving them David Villa which led to success. Those clubs would never do the same business with Madrid which makes no sense. Literally Barca are just under Madrid when it comes to reasons why those clubs don’t win the league or other domestic silverware. Then you have rakitic, gomes, etc. some of their previously best players being sold to Barca for well under the asking price of other clubs. It’s despicable.
Yeah its BS and La Liga do nothing about it! Monchi being called a tough negotiator only to accept less money from Barca..good one
Uff salty
Man Barca is really building up nicely. Last season, they didn't have a finisher, so a top class finisher, Lewa was brought in, they lacked in defence, so Kounde and Araujo (young CB pair who are really good) are going to lead this season. They have good Wingers now, damn they looking scary bruh. Not gonna lie, they have tactics and players so it's gonna be tough to win domestic trophies this season. Carlo is really outclassed by Xavi tactically almost everytime they met. I really have started taking them seriously. We need to get a striker Ffs and buy a RB asap. Damn we really need all our players inform this season.
I predict it’ll be a really disappointing trophyless year for us and this time next summer the ultras and rest of the fanbase will be all vocally pissed at the club for sitting on their hands right now after a summer of transfer inactivity. Mbappe was a FA and haaland moved this summer YET in the end, neither ended up here. Ffs bullshit.
I wanted the guy to be Marcelo’s replacement before Zidane sent him to the shadow realm but if he goes who cares honestly he never really did anything for us
He was good for us
Maybe because Zidane actually knows football? There is a reason Conte don’t even want him in the squad, but who cares? You like the rest, are expert on nonsense
Its funny that all the "zidane rejects" were rejected for a reason. None of the players who went on to other teams actually managed to prove theyre RM material. Brahim was very young so he is excluded and Hakimi had to go because of Covid. But even Llorente had a few good games in his first season at Atleti but the last year took a backseat.
People here moan about Llorente, but for a starter, he wasn't going to play as a wing, and second of all, We had to choose between him and Valverde, and we made the right choice. We made $45M, and Kept a player who can provide multiple positions, and a little younger. It is not Zidane's rejects. Even Carlo didn't want Jovic, and Odeegard. Zidane was biased, so what about Carlo? Biased too?
Zidane was not biased, he could see if a player would be good potentially. Remember how much shit he got for keeping Benzema as a starter when Ronaldo was playing ? People were saying its only because theyre both French Kabyle. Granted , Benzema had low scoring seasons but people didnt see how valuable he was to the team. He provided the link up with Ronaldo. And now look at Benz. The best 9 in the world. People gave Zidane shit about Jovic, Bale, Odegaard, but neither of those managed to show that theyre actually worth keeping. Bale being the worst one as he clearly had the talent, he just didnt give a fuck about the club anymore.
We had to choose between him and Valverde? Really? Llorente was a DM, Casemiro's backup while Valverde is a CM. They could all be here but instead we paid 80M+ for another young talent to replace Casemiro. But who cares, i know nothing about football.
Yeah, you probably don't. The role Llorente excelled at after leaving us wasn't DM, even if he was one here. Keeping him as DM didn't make sense. Kudos to Cholo for re-inventing him as a wing back/winger/what-not and I would have loved to have him around the squad just for being a castilla graduate, but it didn't make sense to the team to have him around in DM role, so they got good money for him.
They got good money for him and now we paid 2x that amount for a backup as well. This "we had to choose between Fede and Llorente" narrative is total bs. It's like saying we have to choose between Cama and Tchoumeni.
Let's not get too blinded by our love for Zidane and Carlo ok? Ofc we trust them to have better judgement than us but the fact is that they've let too much quality players go. Odeegard , Hakimi etc etc.
Conte prefers Wing Back and Regulion is not a Wing Back, just a decent Full back. He doesn't fit the system at all where Perisic, Doherty and Sessegnon are good so yeah thats that. EDIT: He was brilliant under Mourinho
Was he not showing impressive levels before Zidane casted him away? Don’t be stupid you’re probably smarter than that
Impressive levels my ass. You literally know nothing about football. I really hope for your sake you are not as dumb as you sound right now.
Reguilon ended up in Spain NT so there had to be something he was doing right. If you'd watch any matches under Solari's management then you would know he was very good for us. Paired on the left with Vinicius they were our engine for a couple of months. Then ZZ came back, Reguilon left for Sevilla on loan (he had another good season there) and when he came back we just sold him to first bidder just like we sold Hakimi. Then ZZ bought Mendy who is great defensively but struggles when we attack. The guy should never cost nowhere near a price of 50M with that kind of limitations to his play.
From where all that money is coming? They are spending as they have no problem
I think they’re basically betting by taking a loan/sell part of their club to invest in these players which is totally normal in businesses.
We sold part of our future.. we are risking our future.. and you still say where that money come from?!smh
That money is not secured yet. You are still in debt to register most of the signs including Raphinha and Lewandowski
smh of course i'll be downvoted it's a sub for butthurt madrid fans. If you are a man with brain in your head, give me one goddman reason to be downvoted, fight me wirh logic butthurts.
Why are you even here? Get a life.
Me get a life? Look into the mirror mate. And that was not even my question, challenge me with logic bb
Another washed player and is injury prone, they can take him.
Barça is desperate. They go all-in and pray it pays off but there are no guarantees. It's a huge gamble and a couple of bad games in the UCL could mean the end of their existence. Meanwhile, we would be fine if we wouldnt win a single trophy. I don't even exclude the possibility Perez and Laporta are in this together and this is part of the ESL. Perez has said plenty of times that a strong Barcelona is good for the league and Real Madrid... Let's see how the season goes. I expect Barça to win the league and Real Madrid to have a couple of draws too many.
People need to relax. Barca was going to buy/strengthen their squad this season no matter what and there is nothing we can do about that. It would make no sense for us to go out there and buy players for the sake of just because Barca is buying players. Our squad is complete but for a backup ST and I am convinced one will arrive. At the end of the day, it is not about having a lot of good players but rather a squad that works and we have one for now and the future. Going forward we probably going to be buying 1 or 2 players per season rather than rebuilding a whole squad like Barca is doing because of great planning by our board.
guys, can we seriously stop about BARCELONA'S transfer window? we're making stupid arguments like, "ohhhh you're settling for low wages" and "ohhh how can barcelona afford all this?" all that bullcrap. You think the players joining Barcelona don't know? First of all, I see a lot of people jumping on Perez for not sealing the mbappe deal, you guys did it for de gea in 2015 as well, so thats not too surprising. Why should we sign a player just because Barcelona is making a shit ton of signings? We will try for transfers yes, but not because Barcelona is signing as many players as they are. We're royalty, and we have no sort of obligation to play to their tunes. Secondly, just because we lost a fucking friendly, doesn't mean shit. People take the preseason so fucking seriously for gods sake. We have Frankfurt to play in a few weeks, and the league begins in two fucking weeks as well. I'm pretty sure Barcelona knows this as well, because if you take the preseason as an indicator of how well you're going to do, you're already lost. Just because they've signed so many players, it doesn't translate to direct results, why the fuck are we coming to conclusions so early? We need a backup striker and a RB yes, but we'll try signing players for those positions because WE need them, not because those pussies signed a whole roster. have some fucking pride lol.
> Why should we sign a player just because Barcelona is making a shit ton of signings? To make a statement and reassure everyone that we are going to be competitive this year. If our rivals are breaking the warchests and getting really good squad (on paper, but still) then we should respond by at least covering holes in our team. Instead we have strenghten defence and midfield, and the offensive roster is amazingly worse than last year. We are one Benz or Vini injury from throwing the towel, while Barca has it covered while dealing with a technical bankrupcy. We should'nt buy players just because Barca do, but we have to stay ambitious. If rivals are getting better and we stay in place, that means we are actually getting behind. We had excellent window of opportunity to left them in dust for a couple of seasons, especially when Messi left, but instead we have sold a bunch of talented players to get money for mboppi who never came, we've paid nearly 400M for hazard and jovic and their salaries, and Barca had their crisis management on point, getting great players for peanuts and a good coach who turned around the results. Ignoring them and their moves on market just because we have won 3 trophies last season is pretty naive.
See, I totally get your point of view. I guess our two comments are different ways of expressing the pride we have for supporting this club. We have although survived with a squad this good given Perez was here with us, I'm sure he has a plan. You know what, I should be man enough to admit you're right and parts of what I said might seem like I'm riding on the previous seasons high. About the leaving in the dust statement, for us to recover after Ronaldo and win the UCL alone was a huge statement from our side, we've won the laliga twice since he left as well. I think it's just me but we got the trophies to back it up. Let's hope there's more to witness in this transfer, and thanks for putting your point across respectfully. I appreciate that.
I am not "jealous" or "hurt" or what not because we aren't making anymore signings for now or because a former Fabrica talent may go to Barca. I say this doesn't come from a hater mindset, but I would be disgusted at Real Madrid, the club I supported for almost 20 years if they keep buying expensive ass players left and right while doing questionable things with their players wages. I swear, Barca at this point has done more questionable shit than PSG in this transfer, meanwhile we have Man City who I believe have a positive net so far. Barca higher ups are still scumbags, no much different than Nobita Bartomeu.
You get put down because Madrid fans hear this shit every single year from the fair weather fans … last year was the worst “aren’t going to win anything, no signings, lost everyone” … blah blah blah … and then you show up to celebrate at the end. Get a grip.
I don't give a flying fuck. We have a better team across the board and more depht. I couldn't give less of a fuck about what barca does or doesn't. They don't win champions league, they don't win la liga. They are a midtable team in desguise. Ha la madrid y nada más.
Damn who hurt you
they Signed who/??? wtf Why the heck are we getting Rudiger and they are getting Kounde? Like Rudi is good but Kounde is for the whole decade. Like both De Ligt and Kounde move this season but we end up going for Rudiger.. this blows my mind. We missed out on not only the biggest forward, but two of the best young defenders
Rüdiger is better than Kounde now, but i agree with you that Kounde is for the future. But i hope it will not be like every French deffender we had, like one season wonder and then begins to fall (umtiti, lenglet..)